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Speaker 3: Episode four thirteen with Dan and Shay your thoughts on

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Speaker 3: this interview, Mike.

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Speaker 4: They seem like completely different people, like the same people,

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Speaker 4: but like just so much like better and nicer and cooler.

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Speaker 3: Like healthier. Yeah, and then you get jealous that you're

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I agree. And they both look different too,

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Speaker 3: they do, so I guess maybe that's part of it

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Speaker 3: what the heck, Shae, you cut your body or you

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Speaker 3: lost all the weight, and what the heck, let's go.

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Speaker 3: We talked about that a bunch and they were very

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Speaker 3: a lot of that stuff as it was happening, but

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they were going to break up.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Dan was like I'm retiring, we'll

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Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 3: So we do an hour over an hour with Dan

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Speaker 3: and Shay. Listen known these guys forever. They have a

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Speaker 3: new record that's out September fifteenth, so by the time

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Speaker 5: But I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what else to say except let's just

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Speaker 3: get to it. They are two of the judges now

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: One button, one button, two people. You guys went here,

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Speaker 3: and Shay was very honest about how you know, he

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Speaker 3: That Yeah, that's kind of how it works in my

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Speaker 3: Bigger House is coming out. They got a bunch of

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Speaker 3: new great music. They have a mini documentary called The Drive,

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Speaker 3: which came out in July on social media. Check it

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Speaker 3: out here. They are Dan and Shay. I've got allergies

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Speaker 3: pretty bad and I'm not hurting. But if I sound

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Speaker 5: It's because we made you so much, not because you're here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it could be because you're here.

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Speaker 5: Look at that picture looking over your shoulder, man, and it'll

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I look at that in that states here all

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Speaker 3: So so it's the allergies I was in. I was

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Speaker 3: Good to see you guys too.

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Speaker 3: It is I mean, I'll start Danielson closest. I guess

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was ridiculous. That was ridiculous hair.

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Speaker 5: See, I wish I was a hat guy. I look

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Speaker 5: He's carrying it around in that verse.

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Speaker 5: And he has good hair too, yep. But you either

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Speaker 2: Somewhere in the middle. It's it's like Eric Church and sunglasses.

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Speaker 2: When do you see him without it, You're like, what

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Speaker 5: How are you not wear sunglasses?

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Speaker 3: We were at Pebble Beach together, Eric Church and I.

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Speaker 2: Where it's like I don't understand why you even walked

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Speaker 3: Just cutting all that stuff? Just as an I fasted

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Speaker 3: To keep keep on them.

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Speaker 2: Bigger Houses with our buddy Andy Albert, and I don't

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00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,359
Speaker 2: know was it who else was in that.

441
00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,439
Speaker 5: Song, Andy, Jordan Minton and Jordan Reynholms.

442
00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a bunch of more core writers that the boys.

443
00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,359
Speaker 2: And I hadn't heard it yet, and he was like,

444
00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,080
Speaker 2: had sent it over. And usually Dan, you know, prefaces

445
00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,320
Speaker 2: any song that he writes that I wasn't on. He'll

446
00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:18,960
Speaker 2: preface it like I don't know if it's like that

447
00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,520
Speaker 2: good or whatever, But then he'll send it and I'm

448
00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,040
Speaker 2: like it's probably gonna be phenomenal. You know, if he's

449
00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,480
Speaker 2: sending it to me, I know it's gonna be good.

450
00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,399
Speaker 2: And I was actually back home in Arkansas and I

451
00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,760
Speaker 2: was visiting my family and I was on the farm

452
00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,399
Speaker 2: that I grew up in, and there was just something

453
00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,360
Speaker 2: about hearing it in that context of a place that

454
00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,760
Speaker 2: I learned the lesson the first time of the lesson

455
00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,919
Speaker 2: that is in that song from that was what I

456
00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,920
Speaker 2: was taught growing up, you know, of where happiness lies.

457
00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,480
Speaker 2: And it was just a really it hit me really hard,

458
00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,240
Speaker 2: and I was like, man, we have to have to

459
00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,560
Speaker 2: record this song, like this is it's my favorite song

460
00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,280
Speaker 2: that we've ever done. I can say that now after

461
00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,080
Speaker 2: we recorded it. There's just something about it that is

462
00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,199
Speaker 2: so genuine and authentic to my upbringing and kind of

463
00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,639
Speaker 2: where I came from that I just connected with it

464
00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,919
Speaker 2: on a really deep level. Even though I didn't write

465
00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,359
Speaker 2: the song, it was just like, man, this is I

466
00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,920
Speaker 2: would have liked to think that if I was there

467
00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,639
Speaker 2: in that room, like these are the things that I

468
00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,280
Speaker 2: would have wanted to say, And it just resonated really

469
00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,920
Speaker 2: hard with me, which I feel like on this entire album.

470
00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,880
Speaker 5: It was just very representative.

471
00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,800
Speaker 2: Of like where we're at in our lives, and even

472
00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,720
Speaker 2: the heartbreak songs are the fun songs. It just felt

473
00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,280
Speaker 2: very much where I'm at, you know, songs like then

474
00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,080
Speaker 2: Again and always going to Be. It's just where I'm

475
00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,000
Speaker 2: at my life, and.

476
00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,679
Speaker 5: It just I feel like bigger houses.

477
00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,639
Speaker 2: Sonically, it was pretty stripped back of how we you know,

478
00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,320
Speaker 2: that song was written of how kind of we write something.

479
00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,520
Speaker 2: We wrote this entire project kind of just on acoustic

480
00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,400
Speaker 2: guitars and a piano, and like there wasn't any tracks

481
00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,080
Speaker 2: like the entire time and nothing against that, you know

482
00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,280
Speaker 2: that pendulum swings back and forth always, but we just

483
00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,160
Speaker 2: wanted to kind of do it how we had done

484
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:50,439
Speaker 2: it in the.

485
00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,520
Speaker 1: Very beginning of just getting together and telling stories.

486
00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,920
Speaker 2: And I feel like that that song in particular, really

487
00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,159
Speaker 2: it connected the entire album was a song that was

488
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,200
Speaker 2: very representative of what where we were at in our

489
00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,199
Speaker 2: career and our life and the things that we had

490
00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,760
Speaker 2: been through and where we were focused. And I feel like,

491
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 2: I mean, the overall message of the song is, you know,

492
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,320
Speaker 2: the thing about happiness I've found is it don't live

493
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,040
Speaker 2: in bigger houses. And obviously it's not just talking about

494
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,359
Speaker 2: bigger houses. It's the things that we chase after. You know,

495
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,960
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with you know, having nice things and

496
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:20,600
Speaker 2: whatever it is.

497
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:21,680
Speaker 1: We all like those things.

498
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,960
Speaker 2: But it's when you start to set that bar and

499
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,920
Speaker 2: you start chasing after that high, when you're chasing after

500
00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 2: a feeling that is an unattainable goal because you're that

501
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 2: bar is always going to get raised. It's like, all right,

502
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,680
Speaker 2: you win three Grammys, you can win six, somebody's one twenty.

503
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 2: You know, somebody's won thirty Grammys. It's like, there's a

504
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 2: bar that you can set for yourself and these experiences

505
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 2: that you almost come to expect that are just you're

506
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 2: never going to reach that goal. And I feel like

507
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,359
Speaker 2: we had to have that moment where we looked around

508
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,439
Speaker 2: and we're like, Okay, you know what, we need to

509
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 2: bring it back, reel it back a little bit. Step

510
00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 2: one is to appreciate what we've gotten to do in

511
00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 2: this incredible career that we've had and thankful for that,

512
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 2: and know that moving forward, if we can find joy

513
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,199
Speaker 2: in the process of making this album and getting to

514
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 2: do something that we love, we can't control what happens

515
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 2: after that, but we can control the process and if

516
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,879
Speaker 2: we can find joy in that, we don't have to

517
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 2: worry about what happens after that and winning these awards

518
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 2: and having all these hits and streams and whatever it is.

519
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 2: If you can find joy in those small moments, you

520
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,679
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about the rest of it. And

521
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 2: I just feel like that song, it just really resonated

522
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 2: with me, and we just felt like it was the

523
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 2: perfect representation to kind of place the badge of Okay,

524
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 2: this song represents this entire project as a whole, and

525
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 2: that just needs to be the name of the album.

526
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 1: And it's been really.

527
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,719
Speaker 2: Cool so far. I feel like just the badge of

528
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 2: Bigger Houses. I'm really proud to put that song as

529
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 2: almost a stamp on the album to let people know

530
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 2: what this album is going to be about and what

531
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,160
Speaker 2: it represents.

532
00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 4: Hank Ty the Bobby Cast will be right back, and

533
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 4: we're back on the Bobby Cast.

534
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 3: I remember watching the Drive, the social media document whatever

535
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 3: you gonna call it content. I text Dan I was like,

536
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 3: hey man, that was awesome. Like I felt a little uncomfortable.

537
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 3: Knew a lot of the stuff that was going on too,

538
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 3: you know, our families are close, but I was like, wow,

539
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 3: you got that that felt, so I'll just say good

540
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 3: because it was real and it was honest. But sometimes

541
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 3: you can see when it is a bit strategized. Sure,

542
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 3: but that was uncomfortable and in the best way. So

543
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 3: I guess my lead into that is, you guys were

544
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 3: going through a lot. You decided to share it a

545
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 3: lot with each other. Why did you why did you

546
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 3: decide to share that then, and why was it important

547
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 3: to put that out there?

548
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 5: I think selfishly, it was good to share it, the vulnerability,

549
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 5: putting your vulnerability out there to the world. I feel

550
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 5: like it's helpful to us, you know, for personal growth,

551
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 5: for growth in our relationship with each other. But you know,

552
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 5: if you look back on the course of our ten

553
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 5: year career, everything's been pretty squeaky clean, you know, And

554
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 5: for the most part, that's what it is for artists.

555
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 5: I think there's a big authenticity movement right now, which

556
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 5: is amazing. You'd love to see it. I'd love to

557
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 5: see people putting their actual heart out there on the line,

558
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 5: and I think that's important for fan connection. But for

559
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 5: ten years, it was like only posting the best of

560
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 5: the best in the highlight reel, you know, on social media,

561
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 5: and I know, that's the nature of the beast, but

562
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 5: we felt like if we were going through that, there

563
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 5: was likely somebody else. And also it gave context to

564
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 5: this music that was about to come out, so I,

565
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 5: you know, there is a little bit of that, but

566
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 5: we felt like if we were going through this, there

567
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 5: was somebody out there, one of our fans, somebody in

568
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 5: the industry, and that was the most reactive piece of

569
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 5: content we've ever put out there, not necessarily in views

570
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 5: or virality, but the amount of industry people, managers, artists, writers,

571
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 5: just friends, friends from back home texting me like, man,

572
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 5: that was really brave you guys, Like that was inspiring

573
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 5: to me, Like that, you know, inspired me to speak

574
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 5: up or communicate with somebody that I hadn't communicated with

575
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 5: in a while. And I don't know, it was just

576
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 5: like the messages that we got. There were long messages too.

577
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 5: It wasn't just like love you guys, come to Cleveland.

578
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 5: It was like paragraphs, like people explaining what that meant

579
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 5: to them. That was a powerful piece, but it was

580
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 5: it was true, It was honest, it was genuine. That

581
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 5: moment that night we talked about, you know, my house

582
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 5: and what was at March twenty twenty two or whatever.

583
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 5: That was the most pivotal moment in Dan Shay's career,

584
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 5: like more so than any award, more so than any song,

585
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,479
Speaker 5: any show that we've ever done. That moment changed at

586
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 5: all because for ten years, you know, life gets in

587
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 5: the way when that when you're going so hard. You

588
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 5: know how we were working hard, and we started out

589
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty shows a year. You're on the

590
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 5: road constantly, and if you're not going out of your

591
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 5: way to work on that relationship, especially in a duo,

592
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 5: a duo was such a difficult configuration. I mean, historically

593
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 5: a lot of duos fall apart because it's fifty to fifty.

594
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 5: I think it's harder than a marriage. It's like it's

595
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 5: equal split and you're on public display at all times,

596
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 5: and if you're not being open with each other and

597
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 5: going out of way being proactive with communication, things can

598
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 5: fall apart. And you know, we say in a trio

599
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 5: there's a tiebreaker. Solo artists kind of pays their own way,

600
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 5: but a duo you really have to work at it,

601
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 5: and we weren't working at it. You know, there was

602
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 5: nothing people are like, So was there like a specific

603
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 5: incident or was there a fight. There really wasn't. And

604
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 5: we've said that before too, that there maybe that was

605
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 5: the problem that there wasn't a fight. We weren't communicating,

606
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 5: you know, if something was bothering us, or you know,

607
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 5: I was being an idiot or whatever, Sha was doing something,

608
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 5: we weren't speaking about it in real time, and we

609
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 5: were just like letting things fester. And I think that's

610
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 5: where things kind of got in the way. And then

611
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 5: throw in COVID where you know, we're on and off

612
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 5: the road for that two year period and it was

613
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 5: just such an emotional roller coaster. It was a lot

614
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 5: of story to tell. And you know, Shane and I

615
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 5: once we got to this place after that we can

616
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 5: talk more about that in a sec two that come

617
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 5: to Jesus night at my house conversation. After that, we

618
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 5: were just it just felt like the air had lifted.

619
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 5: We were like in such an amazing place, the closeness

620
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 5: of our relationship, of our friendship stronger than ever before.

621
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 5: And we would get on the phone, Shae would come

622
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 5: over the house for what we said in the drive

623
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 5: is true, Like we made this goal to hang out more,

624
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 5: to spend more time together. Three days a week. Whatever,

625
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 5: Shaye comes over, we pick up a guitar. Right. If

626
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 5: we don't have an idea, we just hang out, you know,

627
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 5: just whatever, watch a movie, do it, do something, just

628
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 5: hang out, spend time together like we did when we

629
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 5: first started, and then Shae would leave and we'd call

630
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 5: each other be like, dude, today was sick, you know,

631
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 5: like or if we wrote a song, it'd be like

632
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 5: that song sick. And we didn't even know we were

633
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 5: making an album at the time. It was just like

634
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 5: and we didn't know if we were going to still

635
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 5: be a band. It was like, let's just see how

636
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 5: this goes, like let's reconnect, let's be friends again, you know.

637
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 5: And we would get on the phone for an hour

638
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 5: and a half. Like there were some nights we were

639
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 5: I remember pacing around my backyard getting bit up by

640
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 5: mosquitoes and we're talking for like I think it was

641
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 5: like ninety minutes or something. When I'd look down at

642
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 5: my phone just like, dude, this is like just feels

643
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 5: like a new era, a new chapter, like these songs

644
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 5: were writing. You're so fun, Like what if we like

645
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 5: told this story to the world, you know, and then

646
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 5: you get asked when when you put out a record,

647
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 5: the label says, hey, let's do a day where we

648
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 5: go do liners. Hey I'm and I'm Shay and we're

649
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 5: Dan and Shay, and this is what our album's about.

650
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 5: For each song is track by track. I was like,

651
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 5: I think it'd be really special to tell our fans

652
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 5: to give context to this album, like what we just

653
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 5: talked about. I was like, if somebody had been recording

654
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 5: this phone call that we just had, just us talking

655
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 5: about what we had been through, we're going through, what

656
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 5: we're dreaming of, you know, like that is that sums

657
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 5: it all up. And we just one day was like, dude,

658
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 5: we should just like go for a drive, Like, get

659
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 5: in a car, go out to Kingston Springs. We spent

660
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 5: a lot of time out there when we first got going.

661
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 5: You know, we couldn't afford a meal, so we had

662
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 5: friends who would feed us out there and you know,

663
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 5: beautiful place to hang. So we got in a car,

664
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 5: they rigged it up, put a couple of GoPros in there,

665
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 5: put some mics in the car, and we just drove.

666
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 5: No managers, nobody sitting there like saying prompting any of

667
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 5: the conversation. We just I don't even remember where we started,

668
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 5: but it was you.

669
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: I think we got lost about six times on those

670
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: back roads and we legitimately drove for hours. Yeah, it

671
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: was like it took a second to it going because

672
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: we were you know, we knew that we were being filmed,

673
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: and so we had to like settle in and we're like,

674
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: let's just talk. And then we talked for like three hours,

675
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: and we used so little of the content it probably

676
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 2: took them forever to go through and find easable pieces

677
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: because we really just ended up having that conversation of

678
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: just like talking through exactly what. Because that that conversation

679
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: literally sparked I was like, man, I wish people could

680
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: just hear that is the context of the album what

681
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: we just had on this phone call. And I was

682
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 2: just like, let's just go for a drive. And it

683
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 2: really one of these days we'll probably put out some

684
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 2: more footage of the drive because it was director's cut

685
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: all of it. The director's cut all of it. There'd

686
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 2: be a long that'll be a movie.

687
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 5: Half of us is like that a cop behind us,

688
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 5: you know, like stupid stuff like that.

689
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, half of it was there was like this big

690
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: camera like going on.

691
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: I was making sure I didn't hit anybody while filming this.

692
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: That would have been really bad, but it was awesome

693
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,479
Speaker 2: to kind of also rehash that. It was another one

694
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: of those moments and our just our personal lives that

695
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 2: we were just a couple of guys out in the

696
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: middle of nowhere driving talking through the craziness that was

697
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: our career over the last ten years.

698
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: Sometimes when I make a change in my life, it's

699
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: got to be because it gets to a point that

700
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: is so drastic that I can realize it where it's, oh,

701
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: I'm not in a good place. I mean when I

702
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: went to on site, I wasn't in a good place.

703
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 3: So it took me to actually hit we'll call bottom.

704
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: You know.

705
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: My mom would go to rehab, she would hit bottom,

706
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 3: and then she would go would you say in you guys' relationship,

707
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 3: because you got to hit a bottom to get to

708
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: actually have the desire to get out of it or

709
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 3: to get back in it.

710
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 5: That's a great point. If you never hit that rock bottom,

711
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 5: you might not realize something's wrong or that you need

712
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 5: to make a change. And I hit it for you, guys,

713
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 5: I absolutely hit rock bottom. I'll you know, speak on

714
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 5: my side of the story and you know, shake and

715
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 5: speak on his But that date was December. It was

716
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 5: like first week at December of twenty twenty one. So

717
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 5: this was when we finished the arena tour. You know,

718
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 5: you work your whole life to get to a place

719
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 5: where you can sell out an arena tour. We did.

720
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 5: We put that on sale in October of twenty nineteen,

721
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 5: you know when ten thousand Hours with Bieber came out,

722
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 5: put this tour up, sell out MSG We sold out

723
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 5: Staples Center, two nights at Bridgetone, like all these bucket

724
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 5: list milestones. We're riding high, it's amazing, and then boom,

725
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 5: COVID happens. It's all gone, and it's like, man, what

726
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 5: that'll mess with your head? So we're juggling that for

727
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 5: a couple of years. We finally get back out there.

728
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 5: We did the tour. Shout out to our team and

729
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 5: you know everybody out on the road, the promoters, you know,

730
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 5: in the fans for hanging out of those tickets. Like

731
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 5: it was a tremendous success given the circumstances. But I

732
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 5: think I was chasing a lot of the wrong things,

733
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 5: you know, speaking to the bigger houses thing a little

734
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 5: bit comparison, we all know that comparison is the thief

735
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 5: of all joy, and I think we all get caught

736
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 5: up in that, especially when everything is so on display

737
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 5: with social media. You know, you can look at stats,

738
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 5: you can look at likes. Everything is just so right

739
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 5: there for you to compare yourself to the best of

740
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 5: the best of what somebody else is putting out. And

741
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 5: I think I was caught up in that in a

742
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 5: crazy way. On social media. I was, you know, being

743
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 5: a content guy because we're too stubborn to have somebody

744
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 5: help us with it, which we need to change that

745
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 5: at some point. But you know, we're on the biggest

746
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 5: tour of our lives and I'm like, well, crap, you know,

747
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 5: we sold out last night. Let me make this video

748
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 5: of us doing you know, we're in tall set at

749
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 5: the Bok Center, and like we got to get this

750
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 5: content of us like jumping in the crowds here and

751
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 5: that stuff's all cool. But it was like all to

752
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 5: like let the industry know that we're out here doing well.

753
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 5: And I was chasing that too much and not enjoying

754
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 5: the moment. I was like maybe looking forward too much

755
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 5: to what was next, and I just really spiraled. It

756
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 5: made me resent music because I wasn't doing anything that

757
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 5: was related to music. It was like all in the

758
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 5: name of trying to get content, and it was like

759
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 5: I was not appreciating the fact that there were fans

760
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 5: there singing the words back to us, and that wasn't

761
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 5: appreciating the fact that I was getting to sing with

762
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 5: my best friend or play with our band who we

763
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 5: grew up with. Like all these incredible, incredible moments passed

764
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 5: me by, and December, you know, came around twenty twenty one.

765
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 5: We finished the tour in Boston and I got off

766
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 5: stage more like defeated than I had ever been. And

767
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 5: you know how it is, It's like it's really hard

768
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 5: to be in this position. And I don't want to

769
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 5: sound like I'm complaining about it, but I think that's

770
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 5: why a lot there's a lot of mental health issues

771
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 5: and depression in our industry, because if you're really struggling

772
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 5: with something to the public, you feel this responsibility to

773
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 5: be a superhero. You feel this responsibility to be unbreakable.

774
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 5: You know, like on stage you have to be like,

775
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 5: this is the best night of my life, when in

776
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 5: deep down you could be like, I'm really hurting right now.

777
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 5: You know, and this was before we knew to talk

778
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 5: to each other, to be open about it with our fans.

779
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 5: You know, this is a whole new chapter in an

780
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 5: amazing era. But that moment I got off stage and

781
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm done. I don't know if I

782
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 5: could ever do this again. And I didn't really say

783
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 5: that to anyone. I think Abby kind of knew it.

784
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 5: But she is so patient, so incredible, so encouraging with

785
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 5: me to kind of work through these issues, you know,

786
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 5: work on myself. And I came home from that and

787
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 5: I like literally laid on the couch. You know, I'm

788
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 5: always going, always doing something, just like you man, always

789
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 5: on the move, always grinding, And that was like the

790
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 5: first time in a long time that I just kind

791
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 5: of laid there for like two weeks to process everything.

792
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 5: I was like I might be done, I might retire whatever,

793
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 5: moved back to my hometown figured out, but like I've

794
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 5: I'm burnout. It was like the most extreme burnout I

795
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 5: had ever felt, and I felt like I needed to

796
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 5: get myself right first before I made any progress with

797
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 5: Shay and our relationship, whether we were going to keep

798
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 5: the band together or whatever. It was like I needed

799
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 5: to get myself right on a personal level, I need

800
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 5: to fall back in love with music, and I you know,

801
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 5: after doing a lot of soul searching, I realized that

802
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 5: previous year I'd written four songs total. Two of them

803
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 5: were Christmas songs, two of them were for another band.

804
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 5: And that is the thing that brings me the most

805
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 5: happiness and fulfillment is creating being in the studio making music.

806
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 5: And I wasn't making any music, and I was like,

807
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 5: maybe I start there. So I went out on this

808
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 5: little trip for There's a band called the band Camino

809
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 5: good Buddies of Ours killing it right now. They did

810
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 5: a little writing retreat for their album out in Colorado.

811
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 5: I was like, you know what, I'll head out there

812
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 5: with the boys. It's no pressure, you know, like not

813
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 5: writing for Dan and Shade thing where we're saying like, okay,

814
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 5: we've had these kind of hits. We need this thing.

815
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 5: It's like just a little bit more free form. And

816
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 5: if I don't get a single song out there, I'll

817
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 5: get to go skiing. Like it'll be fun. So I

818
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 5: did wrote a couple songs and I was like this

819
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 5: is fun, Like there's no pressure. We're not writing for

820
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 5: a specific you know, Dan and Shay thing like just

821
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 5: making music for the sake of making music. And I

822
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 5: came home, did the same thing with a couple other buddies.

823
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 5: I was like, just trying to do it a couple

824
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 5: of days a week, and I was like feeling so elated.

825
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 5: I was so happy once you know, that went on

826
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 5: for a couple months, and I just got to this amazing,

827
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 5: amazing place and I was like, you know what, I

828
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 5: got to get myself right with Shaye. We were about

829
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 5: to go out on tour with Chesney, which is Stadium's

830
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 5: bucket list tour. I mean that's like for a support slot,

831
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 5: that's the pinnacle of it. And we had that booked

832
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 5: and I came to this place. I was like, I

833
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 5: got right with myself. I owe it to myself, I

834
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 5: owe it to Shae, and I owe it to Dan

835
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 5: and Shae the entity to figure this out. Whether we

836
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 5: end this band and we right off into the sunset,

837
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 5: we should go and enjoy playing in these football stadiums,

838
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 5: or this could be a launching off point for the

839
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 5: next chapter. And I was like, I got to hit Shae.

840
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 5: We got to have this conversation tonight. So I called

841
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 5: Shay and I was like, yeah, that's what I was calling.

842
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: You did no, I mean, and I hadn't talked to him,

843
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: you know, and yeah, this was a this It was

844
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: kind of a conversation. I had kind of knew his

845
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: kind I knew he you know, kind of how he felt,

846
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: of like I knew he's burnout. I didn't know the

847
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: extent of what was going on, but he texted me

848
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 2: and was like, hey, man, you want to come over tonight.

849
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, he wants to talk about something.

850
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: I thought.

851
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: It was like this is going to be kind of

852
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: it honestly in my in my heart of heart. So

853
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: I was like, I think that this might be the

854
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: end of our band. And I was like, yeah, man,

855
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: when you know, when do you want to do this?

856
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 5: You know?

857
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: And he was like, I can come over there right now.

858
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, okay, he wants to talk

859
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: like right now. And then I was like, I mean,

860
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: you talk about a full blown panic, you know, because

861
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: all this stuff started coming up and I was like,

862
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: oh no, Like I was not prepared.

863
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: This was like a normal.

864
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: Sunday night or something, and I'm like, I'm gonna I

865
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 2: told my wife. I was like I'm going to meet

866
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: with Dan and I and we didn't really talk about it,

867
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: and we both kind of looked at each other like

868
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to go in my band with

869
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: my best friend that I haven't been close with in

870
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: several years. It was just kind of this whole understood

871
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: like this, we'll deal with this when we'll do the

872
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: wreckage when I get back, you know. And I just

873
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: remember driving over there just like sweaty palms, be like dude,

874
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: this is this is heavy, you know. And I was like,

875
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: this was giving me emotional right, this is to teach

876
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: you how to this is just.

877
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: Paying you forgive me an example people.

878
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: But I was like, man, this is like the last

879
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: ten years of my life is about to end, you know,

880
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: and this is about we're about to you know whatever.

881
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: And I get there and it was just like this,

882
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: you know, what's up, dude, you know. And I remember

883
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: we sat there and Dan just like starts to apologize

884
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: for like the last ten years. That prompted me to

885
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: apologize for stuff. And you know, that's the long and

886
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: short of it. That we sat there until I think

887
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: I got over there, like maybe I don't know, seven

888
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: thirty after I put the kids to bed.

889
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: I went over there.

890
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: We stayed up and talked till like three in the

891
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: morning and just hashed through all of these things, and

892
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 2: a lot of that was like, all right, we need

893
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 2: to really appreciate like what we've gotten to do, whether

894
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: we continue to do this band. It wasn't like we

895
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: were dancing around the fact that we both were kind

896
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: of feeling like we don't know if we're going to

897
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: do this anymore. But it was like, like, man, let's

898
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: let's ride off into the sunset. Either way, let's Dan

899
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: and Shay. Is always going to be was something that

900
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: Dan said. He was like, We're always going to be

901
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 2: a tattoo on somebody's arm, always gonna be a first

902
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: dance song.

903
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's great.

904
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: I remember, like because this was kind of after we

905
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: had had our like really heavy talk, you know, and

906
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: we had kind of gotten the tears out and all

907
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, and I remember like watching him

908
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: like grab his phone and type in that title, you know,

909
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: and I was like, that's a great title, and and

910
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: it was just it.

911
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: Was just an incredible night.

912
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 5: Man.

913
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I feel like a lot of

914
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: people are scared to say you know, like, oh, yeah,

915
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: we got together and we cried, like just a couple

916
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: of friends. That's that's pretty lame, Like no one would

917
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: want to say that out loud, but like it was, man,

918
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: a lot of tears were shed and a lot of

919
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: stuff was really figured out. And it wasn't like we

920
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: figured out all of our problems, but acknowledging that.

921
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: It mattered enough to both of us that we would try.

922
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 2: And it was just after that, it was our plan

923
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: of action was to all right, let's hang out through

924
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: times a week, let's get together, and let's have no agenda.

925
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: It's just the relationship more than what the relationship could do.

926
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: Exactly was let's make sure we do the relationship.

927
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: Let's be let's be friends again. Because I feel like

928
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: that's something that people don't see from the outside to

929
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: be very easy to be like, yeah, we're in a band,

930
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: and I feel like every duo in history, especially in

931
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 2: country music, I mean, we've had so much devastation. You know,

932
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 2: that is wreckage that has been left through different duos,

933
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: friends of ours that have that have very publicly happened,

934
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: and what you don't see is like the behind the

935
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 2: scenes stuff that is just like their friendship is. If

936
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: that gets wrecked, it's just a matter of time. That's

937
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: a ticking time bomb of you know, your of your

938
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: band separating because you're just going in different directions. And

939
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: even though Dan and I are such different people at the core,

940
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: like on every level, that's the reason that it works

941
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: is because we have extreme respect.

942
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: For one another.

943
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: And even when your when your lives are kind of

944
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 2: going like this, it's so important to kind of realign yourselves.

945
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 2: And even though like you know, I've got three kids

946
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: at this point, Dan's got dogs, we've got our families,

947
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: like we have our own responsibilities, but acknowledging like, hey man,

948
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: I respect the hell out of you for what you're doing,

949
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: and no matter if I believe the same thing that

950
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: you believe or not, I respect what you believe. And

951
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: we both have this band in common, and we have

952
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: our fans in common, and I think the world needs

953
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: to needs to view that too.

954
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: You know.

955
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: It's like we have so much you know, separation in

956
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 2: our country and all these things, and it's like no matter.

957
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: I feel like when I was growing up, that was

958
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: kind of the message, like all right, you believe this

959
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: and I believe this. We're gonna scream at each other

960
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: and then we're gonna go grab a beer, you know,

961
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: And I feel like that's kind of been lost on

962
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: the world, a little bit of the the value of

963
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 2: a good fight.

964
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 6: You know.

965
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 2: That's the next video that's coming out. It's the follow

966
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: up to The Drive. It's called The Fight. It's gonna

967
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: be really good. But I feel like it was, you know,

968
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: we had to learn to respect each other enough to

969
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 2: have those hard conversations when we knew that if things

970
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: are if I have a problem now, like it's even

971
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: happened in like the last you know, six months or so,

972
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: where we're like, okay, this is I think this is

973
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: how it should be. No, I think this is how

974
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: it should be. We talk it out and it's like, awesome,

975
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: this way is clearly better because we both care, we

976
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: want the same thing, and we learned how to like

977
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: focus that stuff and really put a focus on communication,

978
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: just like in any marriage would be. If you just

979
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 2: don't talk about something, That's how us guys most times

980
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: like think like I fixed it.

981
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: It's our issue too. I don't say anything about it.

982
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 3: I let it live, and then I just keep pushing

983
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 3: it down. But my wife knows she has to go

984
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 3: and get it because I will not. Yeah, and it

985
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 3: doesn't put her in a great place. And I don't

986
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: like it. I'm like that a lot of times. But

987
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: I'm and also I feel like I can fix it

988
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: in my head myself. Sure, totally, And just like I'm

989
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: gonna go and fix it. I'm not even gonna teke

990
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: the process, but I'm gonna come back and it's gonna

991
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 3: be fixed.

992
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, yep.

993
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: And that gets me in trouble, But you're right, it's

994
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: a relationship. And you guys marriage also, your marriages to

995
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 3: your wives, like one on one's tough. Regardless of the

996
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 3: situation it is.

997
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

998
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 4: Bobby Cast.

999
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 3: Do you guys, one on one on stage, do you

1000
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 3: have and maybe they're not absolutes, but do you have

1001
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: signals like, hey, cover for me, I need to go

1002
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 3: and pee or maybe not pee I wish like on

1003
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 3: the show me and oh my guess they know my

1004
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: little They know if if I'm holding up a finger

1005
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: for this, if I twirl my hand for that. At

1006
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: this point, we've been together almost twenty years, We've been.

1007
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 5: Doing it for a long time.

1008
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I do a little of this. They know,

1009
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 3: go longer, go shorter. I gotta turn my mic off.

1010
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: I gotta what is that relationship like with you guys,

1011
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: or even a quarterback and a wide receiver where you're

1012
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: on stage, you're performing, you're playing the game, but you

1013
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 3: got to cover for each other, but you really don't

1014
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 3: say it.

1015
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 5: I feel like it goes unset. I feel like it

1016
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 5: is so lockstep. We find ourselves like jinx, you know,

1017
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 5: so many times like thinking the same thing, saying the

1018
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 5: same thing on age. I feel like the chemistry it's

1019
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 5: just like the show. I mean, it's just we've thought

1020
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 5: about like we have a hand signal if like one

1021
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 5: of us needs to get a drink, but I know

1022
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 5: when he needs to get a drink and same same goes.

1023
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 5: It's just the eye contact. We lock eys, like okay, cool,

1024
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 5: I know something's going on with his in ear pack.

1025
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 5: He's gonna run over. I'm gonna get on the mic

1026
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 5: and find somebody with a sign in the crowd and

1027
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 5: buy him a minute and a half or whatever. You know,

1028
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 5: those kind of things just you spend that much time together,

1029
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 5: it's uh. And also it's a chemistry thing. Man It's

1030
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 5: something we noticed when we first met. You know, I'd

1031
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 5: never felt that making music with somebody before. In the

1032
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 5: writing room, we would finish each other's sentences and oh,

1033
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 5: see doing it right right now?

1034
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, right now it's crazy.

1035
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 5: And now Mike's involved, it's crazy now.

1036
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: Man.

1037
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 5: It's a lot of it goes unsaid. We're learning that.

1038
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 5: I could probably say as we started taping the voice.

1039
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 5: You know, I know it airs next year, but we

1040
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 5: started taping the voice and there's one button. We're in

1041
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 5: this big chair that's connected. There's one button, and we

1042
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 5: were like, dude, we got to come up with some signals,

1043
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 5: like two taps on the leg, and like, we had

1044
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 5: these grand plans we were gonna make because everything's like

1045
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 5: cameras in your face, you're miked up. You know, everything

1046
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 5: is is fair game, and uh, we had these grand

1047
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 5: plans to like make signals. Whenever we liked something, we're

1048
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 5: gonna hit it. We kind of forgot to do that.

1049
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 5: Time got in the way, and I feel like it's

1050
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 5: still so lockstep. If we're like we look over cool

1051
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 5: and we hit that.

1052
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: I can read the panic on Dan's face.

1053
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, my hands are twitching. I'm like I don't know

1054
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 6: about this. I hope Shade doesn't push the button and

1055
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 6: then we don't do it. But yeah, man, you spend

1056
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 6: that much time with each other and there is just

1057
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 6: a you know, intangible chemistry between the two of us.

1058
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 5: When we're on stage or we're writing or singing harmonies.

1059
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 5: I know when you're gonna go for a high note

1060
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 5: or I know coming out of chorus too. If you

1061
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 5: know we'd been singing a lot and you're gonna go

1062
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 5: for a chill version, I'll back off on the harmony,

1063
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

1064
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: Those things it's almost creepy sometimes, like it's like the

1065
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: twin thing.

1066
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean, this has happened, especially on the Voice.

1067
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: I noticed it the most because we were doing a

1068
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: lot of you know, you do a lot of interviews

1069
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: in between, you know, the whole deal. It's a whole process.

1070
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: And it was so fun because that we would literally

1071
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: say the same thing at the same time. And I

1072
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: was like, we do this a lot, and it's crezy,

1073
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: like we can't even use those takes because it looks like,

1074
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: oh we say that, even like responses, it looks like we'rehearsed.

1075
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 2: Like I mean, there'll be things like you know someone's

1076
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: talking to us and you know we're an interview and

1077
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: we're like for sure, for sure at the same time,

1078
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: like what is happening, dude, it's like we're just kind

1079
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: of look at each other like totally because you spend

1080
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: you know, your all of your time with someone and

1081
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: like we're we're in the same conversations and you just

1082
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: kind of learn. It's like a marriage where you're like,

1083
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: you get you kind of pick up each on each

1084
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: other's lingo and things that you say, and it's like

1085
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: almost to a creepy point, like at the same times,

1086
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: like when someone gives you a question, because we're getting

1087
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: those questions all the time, and so it's like our

1088
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 2: response is just getting grained in our brains and it's

1089
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: kind of weird and sometimes but it's awesome.

1090
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: It is awesome.

1091
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 3: Awesome, God a picture of that. Oh my god, no

1092
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: one's gonna believe this. When you started putting this project

1093
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: together and you weren't writing to really write a record,

1094
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: you were just writing to write and you were gathering

1095
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: good songs. Basically, if I'm Right, Always Going to Be

1096
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: was the first song from this project that made the

1097
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 3: project like as far as like a timeline of all

1098
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 3: of it.

1099
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 5: The first song you wrote, Yeah, that was the first

1100
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 5: song we wrote for the record. I think it was. Yeah,

1101
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 5: it was the first one we recorded, first one we

1102
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 5: had a mix on Yeah that you know, Shae mentioned

1103
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 5: it earlier, but that night when we were talking, we

1104
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 5: were like, we got to figure this out. Our fans,

1105
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 5: the industry, everybody that we've come in contact with, the

1106
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 5: we owe that to them. They deserve that because Dan

1107
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 5: and Shay, It's always going to be a tattoo on

1108
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 5: somebody's arm, It's always going to be a first dance

1109
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 5: at somebody's wedding. It's it's going to be a moment

1110
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 5: for somebody that, whether we break up or not, Dan

1111
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 5: and Shay is always going to be And like Shay said,

1112
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 5: I wrote that down on my phone and I was

1113
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 5: just like, that's that's a special sentiment. And you know,

1114
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 5: obviously we evolved it, we brought the girl in of

1115
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 5: the song and you know, just made it more of

1116
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 5: a life thing. But we're really proud of that song. Man,

1117
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 5: it's a special one, and the fan response on it's

1118
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 5: been amazing. But yeah, that one kind of set the

1119
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 5: tone for the rest of the record. Esthetically, sonically, I

1120
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 5: don't know. That song is just kind of like the

1121
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 5: backbone of the record that Bigger House is. And then again,

1122
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 5: I would say you're kind of the ones that.

1123
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: Those three songs are kind of those three connected. I mean,

1124
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: when I think about the album, those three songs and

1125
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 2: obviously a lot of the other songs are in the middle,

1126
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: and there's some of my favorite songs not in that list,

1127
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: but those three songs kind of wraps up the album

1128
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: to me because just the lyrical content and sonically of

1129
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: kind of where this project was going. And and we

1130
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: didn't think too much about, like, you know, we knew

1131
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: that there would be somebody being like, what are these

1132
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 2: guys are trying to be super country now?

1133
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: And it's like this is the stuff that we grew

1134
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: up on. Like we've been doing this a lot longer

1135
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: than you've been hating on it, you know, And.

1136
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: It's like I think that this kind of traditional country

1137
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: sound has come in and that very naturally. There's some

1138
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: songs in the record that are a lot more country

1139
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: that we've done in a minute, but that's what we've

1140
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: been writing since the very beginning of our career and

1141
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: long before we met, you know, is the stuff we

1142
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: were influenced by, Brooks and Dunn or straight Alan Jackson,

1143
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: Kenny Chesney, all these people that we were influenced by,

1144
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: and it was just so much fun too, and it

1145
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: was it was interesting for me too to kind of

1146
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: take a back seat and watch how Dan's production has has.

1147
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: Grown over the last ten years.

1148
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 2: I mean it's like we started at five oh seven

1149
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: and we were making these horrible you know, like demos.

1150
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 2: They were atrocious, and then that just evolved into him.

1151
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 2: I mean, Scott Hendrix says he has the best ears

1152
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: he's ever heard, and Scott Hendricks is the most decorated

1153
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 2: producer in Nashville history and probably of all of music.

1154
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 2: I mean, he's this, you know, he has crazy good

1155
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: ears and it's so good at finding songs and all

1156
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 2: this stuff. For him to say something like that about

1157
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: Dan is just one testament to how good he is.

1158
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 2: But watching that evolve and kind of hearing how this

1159
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: sound has evolved for this record, because it is very

1160
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: it's a lot more country than stuff that we've done

1161
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: in the past. It sounds like it's a little bit

1162
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: more of our first record, and a lot of people

1163
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: have kind of referenced that like, this reminds me of

1164
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 2: you know, early Dan and Shay with what we fell

1165
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: in love with, you guys with, And I think that

1166
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: is just because on that very first record, there was

1167
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 2: no agenda. It was two guys that were very poor

1168
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: getting together and loving music and writing songs together. And

1169
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: that's we stripped everything back to that. We just were

1170
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 2: getting in the room and we're like, all right, let's

1171
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: write a song, not because we have to, but because

1172
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 2: we get to do this for a living and because

1173
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: we love to do it. And it just kind of

1174
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: turned into this thing. And the sound that came from

1175
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: that was just very organic, and it wasn't like all right,

1176
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: let's try to make this this. It was like, all right,

1177
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: we're going to get in the studio. We're going to

1178
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: play these songs. Most of the time we would get

1179
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: in there in the studio and just like play it acoustically.

1180
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes we didn't have a demo for a lot of

1181
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: these songs, played it on acoustic guitar, and we went

1182
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: in and we played it and it was just these

1183
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: incredibly talented musicians and it just turned into what it

1184
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: turned into. And I'm so proud of how it turned out,

1185
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 2: and I'm so proud of of how Dan has evolved,

1186
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 2: and this is definitely your best work so soon. And

1187
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: it was just it was cool though as a as

1188
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: a fan of music to have a record that sounds

1189
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: like this, and I'm like, yeah, I'll put my stamp

1190
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: on that for the rest of my life. You know,

1191
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: I am so proud of this album Over any I

1192
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: can say that, over any album we've ever done.

1193
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: I've loved.

1194
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 5: Obviously, they're like your kids.

1195
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: You like your songs, you know, you listen to them

1196
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: and you're very proud of them. But I think as

1197
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 2: a whole, not just the songs and what the product

1198
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 2: was at the end, but the process that it took

1199
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: to get there. I've never been more proud to be

1200
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: a part of something in my life because it changed,

1201
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: It changed everything for us, just the process, but also

1202
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 2: just in my life. And I've said this a couple

1203
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: of times recently, but it's something I realized throughout our

1204
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 2: band and throughout like our life as a band. You know,

1205
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: we kind of we grew up. Obviously, we both got married,

1206
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: and then we I've got my kids and all this stuff,

1207
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: and I kind of had my family life and then

1208
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: there was my band life, and there were two very

1209
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 2: separate things, you know, you kind of live your life

1210
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: in those two separate train tracks, and it was for

1211
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: the first time I remember after hearing you know, Bigger

1212
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: Houses getting the cut back for that and always going

1213
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: to be and then again in these songs, and I

1214
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: was like, this is the very first time that I

1215
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: feel like my personal life and my band are fully connected.

1216
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: And this is exactly what I'm going through right now.

1217
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 2: I'm going through what Bigger Houses is talking about. I'm

1218
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: spending summers now in Arkansas again with you know, back

1219
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: on the farm, and I'm listening to these songs being

1220
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 2: like this is theff like whether it was like a

1221
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: lesson that I learned or like the girl that I

1222
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 2: dated in high school, Like I'm here in this place

1223
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 2: of these lessons that I learned, and it was just

1224
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 2: an amazing final puzzle piece of the evolution that I've

1225
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: kind of been on personally, and it just kind of

1226
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: it all kind of came together perfectly. And I don't

1227
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: know this just it's such a new step for Dan

1228
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: and Sha our band, but also like our lives, like

1229
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: we're just I don't feel the same that I did,

1230
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,959
Speaker 2: you know, a year and a half ago, I feel

1231
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: like this is such a step forward and a breadth

1232
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: of fresh air. And I just think that it's so

1233
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 2: genuine from us and it's so authentic to us that

1234
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 2: I'm not We were never worried about like are people

1235
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: what are people going to think about this? Are they

1236
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: going to think it's too country? Or are they going

1237
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 2: to think it's to this or that? And it just

1238
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: never crossed our minds because we loved it. And at

1239
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 2: the end of the day, if you love your music

1240
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 2: and you're proud of it, that's that's the win. And

1241
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: if you know your fans are going to love it,

1242
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about what people on the outside.

1243
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: If they don't like it, they don't like it.

1244
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: But if you try to write an album that you

1245
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: think other people are going to like, the haters are

1246
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: going to like of like people being like this is

1247
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 2: not country. Like if we're trying to make a record

1248
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 2: for them and we end up just hating it, then,

1249
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: like you said this before, like then everybody hates it

1250
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: and you hate it.

1251
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: And so what was the point in that?

1252
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 2: And I think just trying to approach this record with

1253
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 2: a very authentic you know passion for wanting to write

1254
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: songs that we loved and that our fans would love

1255
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: the result that came out of that. Even if this

1256
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: record never came out, this is always going to exist

1257
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: in our hearts and our minds, and I know obviously

1258
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: it is coming out, but I think our fans are

1259
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 2: really going to feel that throughout this entire project, project

1260
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 2: just in a couple of songs, I think they're gonna

1261
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: feel that through what it took to get here.

1262
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: It feels like, at least for me, when I was like,

1263
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 3: the most beautifully creatively reckless is when I have nothing

1264
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 3: to lose, because what are you gonna do? Who cares? You?

1265
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: Just do what you want, take big chances. But then

1266
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: once you start to have some success, well, I don't

1267
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 3: want to mess I want to mess it up. Then

1268
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 3: you have more success and you're like, boy, if I

1269
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: mess it up now? Really? So then you start to

1270
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 3: adjust where you're creating and how you're distributing, and who's

1271
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: listening and why, and all of a sudden, you're doing twelve.

1272
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 3: I struggled with this for years and years, but then

1273
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 3: with you, guys, it feels like when you finally kind

1274
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: of red calibrated yourselves and yourself. It was almost back

1275
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: to that point where what do we have to lose?

1276
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 3: Now we went to the low yep, So it's like

1277
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 3: we almost we almost broke up, So why don't we

1278
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: just go do what we want to do. Worst case

1279
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: scenario is, well, we do what we might have done anyway.

1280
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 3: But it feels like that's that beautiful creative place that

1281
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 3: you guys are in now where you just get to

1282
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 3: create and you're not putting pressure on what you might lose,

1283
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 3: but instead you're kind of putting it on what you

1284
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 3: might gain because you're being truly you.

1285
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 5: Also with shows too, we've only played a few this summer,

1286
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 5: but we're going to play a lot more next year.

1287
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 5: But playing shows, I feel like in the past it

1288
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 5: was always like, Okay, it's got to be picture perfect,

1289
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 5: and we do take a lot of pride and making

1290
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 5: sure we're choreographed. It's like, if we spent money on

1291
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 5: this light hitting here, like we should make sure that

1292
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 5: we're standing that light. Yeah, exactly. Also, the fans deserve it, man.

1293
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 5: These ticket prices like they're expensive. It's expensive to go

1294
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 5: to a concert. Now, people deserve the best that we

1295
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 5: can give.

1296
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: Them.

1297
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 5: But I feel like in the past it was always

1298
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 5: like this overly competitive thing, trying to be like, all right,

1299
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 5: we got to kill it here at Massive Square Garden

1300
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 5: to night so we could come back and do MetLife

1301
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 5: next year, like we got to just keep going. Now,

1302
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 5: I feel like there's this sense of freedom when we

1303
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 5: get on stage, just like, dude, this is sick. Like

1304
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 5: our shows have gotten longer because we get on you know,

1305
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 5: in between songs, and we're like, man, this is Undridgs.

1306
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 3: You got song? Can you believe it?

1307
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 5: I just played tequila.

1308
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 3: Believe it? Dude, You've just said this eleven times.

1309
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 5: It's exactly what it is. So maybe our showmanship's gone down.

1310
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 5: But we're having more fun up there than ever before.

1311
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 5: And I don't know, I feel like being in that

1312
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 5: place is more sustainable than anything, you know. I feel

1313
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 5: like when you let go like that, you make a

1314
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 5: great album or you put on a good show, and

1315
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 5: that's what gets you to Met Life or that's what

1316
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 5: gets you to win the awards or have success, And

1317
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 5: if you don't, at least you had fun in the

1318
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 5: process and.

1319
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 3: At least you created something that you believed in. Because again,

1320
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 3: I got into a place too, where I was like,

1321
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: I don't even like that that much, yep, And when

1322
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 3: it would not do well, I'd be like, it didn't

1323
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 3: do well and I didn't like it. I'd rather have

1324
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: not done well and I'd have loved it, because then

1325
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 3: at least I would have loved.

1326
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 5: It's exactly at least one person likes it.

1327
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least I would have been like, that really

1328
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: was me. And because then you're just questioning, like if

1329
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 3: I just done it the way I really wanted to

1330
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 3: do it, a TV project like that, where I'm like,

1331
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: I didn't want to do it like this, and I

1332
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 3: kind of fought and then I gave up fighting for it,

1333
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 3: and then it would just do okay, and I would go, man,

1334
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 3: I don't like it, and everybody else didn't either. At

1335
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 3: least I wish I would have fought for what I

1336
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 3: really liked. Yeah, And I coming that pressure.

1337
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: Too, Like I'd rather take the pressure of like, rather

1338
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: than try to blame falling on somebody else, Like I

1339
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: would rather be like, Okay, we when this happened on Tequila,

1340
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 2: you know, our label, a lot of people were like,

1341
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: we can't push this this ballad, you know, after you know,

1342
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: we had pushed another single and we you know, we

1343
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 2: thought it might be a hit, but when it was

1344
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 2: going to take a long time and we were like, man,

1345
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: this is this is not it. And when I heard

1346
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 2: Tequila for the first time, I was like, this is

1347
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: a single and I don't care who is going to

1348
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 2: try to stop me. Good luck because I believe in

1349
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 2: this so much. And it was a ballad and it

1350
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 2: was like just it was like the wrong time to

1351
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: probably put out a ballad in most people's heads, you know,

1352
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: thinking like I don't know if this is going to work,

1353
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: But I feel like I was so okay at that

1354
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: point where it really felt like we have nothing to lose,

1355
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: and it was like, nah, dude, we're going with this,

1356
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: and I really don't care what you guys say. This

1357
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 2: is the song because I know I can stand up

1358
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 2: on stage with conviction and sing the hell out of

1359
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: the song and make people believe it.

1360
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 5: I'd rather do.

1361
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: That, and it's my fault if it doesn't, if it fails,

1362
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 2: and I'm okay with that.

1363
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm fully okay with that.

1364
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: If you stand behind your art, you're willing to kind

1365
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: of go down with the ship, you know, But at

1366
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: least I'm the Captain, you know, and I can go

1367
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: down proudly with that happiness. And that was our biggest thing, exactly,

1368
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: and that was our biggest hit, you know. And it's like,

1369
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 2: not that you're trying to, you know, be free form

1370
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: for the sake of gaining the success of that song,

1371
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: but I just think that you're much more likely to

1372
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: have those authentic moments when you, like you said, you

1373
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 2: just let go and you're like, I don't care if

1374
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: someone doesn't like this. I love this, you know, and

1375
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 2: I'm willing to do that. And honestly, a song like

1376
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 2: Save Me the Trouble was was very much that way

1377
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 2: for me. I felt like it was the perfect like,

1378
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 2: you know, it felt like it really kicked down the door.

1379
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 2: Rather than like, I hope you guys like this offering

1380
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 2: that we have. It was just like, nah, this is sick, dude,

1381
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: Like I think this is absolute flames. And I'll tell

1382
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 2: everyone that on the street if they'll listen to me.

1383
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: And I could stand behind that, and I I really

1384
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 2: don't care, dude, Like you hear these notes, These are sick,

1385
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 2: you know, Like I love this, like I'm gonna go

1386
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 2: perform the hell out of this, and that was a

1387
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: good feeling of like, I really don't care if people

1388
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 2: like this or not. I really hope they do, and

1389
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 2: my insecurities are going to really come out if they don't.

1390
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 5: But I love this song.

1391
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: And I'm okay with going down with that ship.

1392
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 2: And again it's we had our biggest ad day that

1393
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 2: we've ever had on radio. And again it's not I

1394
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: didn't do that as a formulated thing. It just was

1395
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: like I have we have nothing to lose, like this

1396
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 2: is I'm proud to put my stamp on this, and

1397
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 2: that's just a It's really fun place to be because

1398
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 2: you just stop worrying about what people are gonna think

1399
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: about it. You just kind of like, no, I'm doing this.

1400
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 2: And I feel like you get less heat from haters

1401
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 2: when you kind of approach life that way because at

1402
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 2: least you're like, at least you're doing it on purpose.

1403
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 3: And they know they can't affect you that much if

1404
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 3: you're not exactly if you're just kind of like suck it. Yeah, Okay.

1405
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 3: Three final questions. Just talk about the voice for a second,

1406
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 3: because I mean, I don't know, you just spoop Danitay

1407
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 3: on the voice as the main chair Flippers. You know

1408
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 3: because yeah, you guys had been on before though, but

1409
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 3: right as like helpers. Have you ever been on the

1410
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 3: like you've been on the Blake's team.

1411
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, was the mentor thing right.

1412
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 3: So it's when I first saw it, I was like, Oh,

1413
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 3: that's cute. They're going back to Mint. Then I was like,

1414
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 3: oh my okay. I was said, Oh my god, they're

1415
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 3: freaking going to I was so pumped for you guys.

1416
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 3: So how did that come about?

1417
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 5: Man, that's one of the craziest opportunities. We're very grateful

1418
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 5: to the team at The Voice for extending that invite.

1419
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 5: We got a text one day it was like out

1420
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 5: of the blue from our manager Jason. He's like, hey,

1421
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 5: I would really like you guys to meet the producers

1422
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 5: of The Voice, like they they love you guys. It

1423
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 5: was like sure, man, because you know that kind of

1424
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 5: gig is like everybody in every genre is going after it.

1425
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 5: I knew they were trying to replace Country, but I

1426
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 5: knew they had already gotten Riba. I was like, there, no,

1427
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 5: there's no way they're going to Getriba and another country act.

1428
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 5: There's so many. I mean, it's just like who's who

1429
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 5: you know? All those chairs are all like a listers

1430
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 5: and then us we went to this meeting, We went

1431
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 5: to this breakfast as it was at the Thompson Hotel,

1432
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 5: sweetest people ever, and we just we were ourselves, you know,

1433
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 5: we told them the ideas that we had. We were like,

1434
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 5: what if there was like this double chair, you know,

1435
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 5: we shared this big chair in one button. I feel

1436
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 5: like that's a cool dynamic that hasn't been I think

1437
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 5: they had done it maybe in Australia or another country,

1438
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 5: they hadn't done in the US. I felt like that

1439
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 5: was a cool idea to shake up the voice a

1440
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,959
Speaker 5: little bit and just I don't know, there was something

1441
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 5: about us being ourselves there and I think it did well.

1442
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 5: When we were on with Blake, Blake was like the

1443
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 5: king of the Voice. So anybody who goes on with

1444
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 5: Blake's gonna look good. But we didn't expect anything. A

1445
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 5: couple of months went by went by. I was like,

1446
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 5: surely they give it. They probably already taped the season,

1447
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 5: so you didn't hear. We didn't hear for a lot.

1448
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: And that is to give context. This is kind of

1449
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: after we had really like gone through everything and we're

1450
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: like doing you know, questioning it as friends again and

1451
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 2: this was like, honestly for me, I don't know if

1452
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 2: you felt this, but like, I never dreamed had that

1453
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 2: dream to want to do a show like this until

1454
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 2: we got that text message and I was like, yeah,

1455
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: it's my only dream.

1456
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 3: It's my only I've never dreamed of something more in

1457
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 3: my life.

1458
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 5: Every day he was group, oh my god, you know

1459
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 5: any updates is like, the meeting was yesterday.

1460
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 2: Dude, Bro, I've never had so much anxiety on something.

1461
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: And it was good because thank God that we had

1462
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: prepared for this because I had lost all this all

1463
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 2: this weight and was like, all right, I'm glad at least,

1464
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: like if we're gonna be on TV, it's gonna be

1465
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: now and not like a year and a half ago

1466
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: whenever I was, you know, eating everything that my eyes touched.

1467
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: And I was like as soon as we had that meeting,

1468
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: it went really well and we're like, you know, these

1469
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: people are super super sweet, and we did go into

1470
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: that meeting and being like.

1471
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 3: Man, it is what it is.

1472
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: Because the conversation was like not like hey, they're auditioning

1473
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: you for the part, It was like, would you guys

1474
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: ever even be interested in this?

1475
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: And it literally started in my head, I was like, yeah,

1476
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 1: I mean that would be I think that would be cool.

1477
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: And by like seven pm that.

1478
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: Night, I was talking to my wife and I was like,

1479
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: if we don't get this, I'm gonna be rad by

1480
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: a house in La I mean, I was so like,

1481
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: I didn't think that I would want to do this,

1482
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 2: But now that I'm thinking about it, this makes so

1483
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: much sense. I feel like we would be so good

1484
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 2: at this and I would really enjoy this. And I

1485
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: was like, I mean pacing, I mean this. It took

1486
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: months for us to get an answer at all, and

1487
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: I think I was going back to Arkansas at that time,

1488
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: and my routine for like that a few months that

1489
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 2: we didn't know anything was like work out in the mornings,

1490
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: think about the voice for six hours, and hang.

1491
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 5: Out with the kids, and then go to bed and

1492
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 5: then text.

1493
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,439
Speaker 2: In the middle of that, I'd text you guys about

1494
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: seventeen times, being like.

1495
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: Any update, have you heard of them?

1496
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: You've been following them to their house or anything like that,

1497
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: And so it was it was a whole thing. But

1498
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: after I think I was in Arkansas when we got

1499
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: the news and Jason had texted us and we kind

1500
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: of gotten some updates.

1501
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 5: We knew.

1502
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: We found out like, okay, Riba, she's taking the gig.

1503
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: We knew that she.

1504
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 2: Had had an offer out there, but they had met

1505
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 2: with everybody like these A list celebrities, and we knew

1506
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: we were having conversations with and I was just wrecked,

1507
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: Like my stomach dropped, and it was like, man, that's

1508
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: a real bummer, Like why did you even text us

1509
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 2: in the first place.

1510
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 5: Why did we have the meeting?

1511
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 2: You know, because I was like I was living life.

1512
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 2: We were absolutely killing it, having so much fun. Just

1513
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: everything was good again. And then you've dropped this on

1514
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: our plate and dangle it in front of us, and

1515
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: if we don't get it, it's gonna really suck.

1516
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 5: But Dan and I would have like these.

1517
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: Therapy sessions every night, like it's okay. If it doesn't happen,

1518
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:11,919
Speaker 2: it's like, no big deal. Maybe it's for the better.

1519
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 2: We probably should even do the voice.

1520
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 5: That's a horrible idea to do. And it just it

1521
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 5: came through.

1522
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 2: And long story short, we got a text message and

1523
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,479
Speaker 2: I think I think Jason said do you have time

1524
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: for a call. In my stomach, I bought craped my

1525
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: pants and I was like this is gonna be that's

1526
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: the worst. And honestly, I think that there was an

1527
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 2: Arkansas it was I can't remember, maybe a baseball game.

1528
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was.

1529
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 2: It was a razorback game that me and my brother

1530
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: in law were like watching together, and I'm already like, you.

1531
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 5: Know how it is.

1532
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: It's like I get so invested in Arkansas Razorback sports

1533
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: that I'm like, it doesn't matter if it's bad Nitt,

1534
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: And I'm like, this is it's a pretty good season

1535
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 2: for him, you know. And I remember I was already

1536
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: like on highlight and we got that text and I

1537
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, this is.

1538
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 3: Test it all? Did you test it all? They just

1539
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 3: met you?

1540
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: No, that was the That's why I think we were

1541
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: going to get it.

1542
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, never did. Yeah, I thought they had gone down

1543
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 5: the road to somebody else. Maybe the mentor thing we did.

1544
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 5: And we'd been on the show a bunch of times

1545
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 5: performing and stuff before. But yeah, it was crazy. And

1546
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 5: then once they told us, it was like dragged on

1547
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 5: for months after that. For the announce it was like, guys,

1548
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 5: we're thinking they'll announced by Thursday, probably three. We should

1549
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 5: have a graphic by like Wednesday, at noon and it

1550
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 5: was like Thursday at three came around and we had

1551
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 5: no graphic.

1552
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 3: And there's no announce It doesn't feel like exact actually

1553
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 3: committed to it.

1554
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 5: And this was like a long time. It was like,

1555
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 5: we should have something by Friday, you know. It is

1556
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 5: just like we'll have something by the end of the week.

1557
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 5: We'll have like an official announcement. And then because we

1558
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 5: were trying to like balance that we were about to

1559
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 5: announce the album, we were about to put out a

1560
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 5: new single, and it was like, oh, it's getting kind

1561
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 5: of dangerously close. And then it didn't happen within like

1562
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 5: a week of each other, because I was like being

1563
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 5: quiet on socials, you know, trying to let it die

1564
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 5: out and do the thing. And then it was like,

1565
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 5: oh crap, the Voice announced like three days before the single.

1566
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 5: I was like, it's too big to not post about it.

1567
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 2: So and we were asking too, like for pictures of

1568
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 2: the double chair, you know, because we were like, I

1569
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: don't know what this even looks like.

1570
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 5: And I remember texting our.

1571
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 2: Day to day manager, I was like, have you heard anything,

1572
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: Like we were supposed to have a picture of this.

1573
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: Thing like a week ago, and they're like, yeah, They've

1574
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: made it. It's a whole deal. It's gonna be awesome.

1575
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 2: I'm getting you, I'm getting you the picture tonight, and

1576
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 2: so like I'm just like waiting. Finally, like we get

1577
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: this email and I was like, oh my go, this

1578
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 2: is gonna be so sick to see like our name

1579
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 2: on the back of the.

1580
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 5: Chair, the whole deal.

1581
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: And it was this cartoon animated rendering of what the

1582
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 2: chair was going to look like.

1583
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 5: And I was like, God, is this a joke to you?

1584
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 3: All right, this is the only thing I've thought about.

1585
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 5: For the last seven months. How am I supposed to

1586
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 5: you know, go on without this?

1587
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 3: But I would have been so anxious with no announce

1588
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 3: because I would have announcement before it changed. But they

1589
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 3: haven't announced it. That means they're not fully committed. But

1590
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 3: right until you go public, yeah, they don't have to

1591
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 3: say anything if they changed their mind.

1592
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 5: And once they once they went public, it was on.

1593
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 5: We were chilling. Yeah that was great.

1594
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 2: But it finally happened in Jason and calls how would

1595
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: you like to be?

1596
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 5: Coaches?

1597
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: On the voice? And I was like, I mean the

1598
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: colored drained from my face.

1599
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 2: I passed away for a couple of minutes Arkansas, I lost,

1600
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: and then it was a great night.

1601
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,479
Speaker 5: It was Sir Patrick's Day actually, because I was Abby

1602
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 5: and I were at the bar with Megan Morony and

1603
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 5: her friends. She doesn't even know they were down at

1604
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 5: the beach. We were down there at the same time,

1605
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 5: and they texted us and they're like, hey, as we're

1606
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 5: like doing the Saint Patrick's date. She's like half our age,

1607
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 5: so they can you know, they just got out of college.

1608
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:06,959
Speaker 5: I feel like they can drink on a different level

1609
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 5: than Abby and I were like, oh, we're kind of tired.

1610
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 5: It's like three in the afternoon. We're getting ready for

1611
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 5: bed already. They're like, come down to the bar. We

1612
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 5: went out of the bar. It was a long day.

1613
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 5: We'll just say that they were having a good time.

1614
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 5: We were two and Jason called. It was raining. It

1615
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 5: was a whole thing. There's nowhere quiet, you know, Saint

1616
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 5: Patrick's Day. People were popping off and I like stepped outside.

1617
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 5: I was like hello and it and he was like,

1618
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:29,959
Speaker 5: how would you guys like to be coaches? On the voice?

1619
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 5: I was like this is I can't tell anybody this.

1620
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 5: So I couldn't even tell Abby for like four more

1621
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 5: hours Dan ran into the bar.

1622
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 2: He's like, listen, everybody, Yeah, have you guys heard of

1623
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 2: the voice?

1624
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1625
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, They're like, no, Noah.

1626
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 5: That's cool man. We're grateful for the opportunity. It's been

1627
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 5: fun so far.

1628
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

1629
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.

1630
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 3: Two questions left you and I opened a room at

1631
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 3: Wags and Walks the petitdoption center. It's and Hermitage, right.

1632
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, and thank you guys for contributing in such a

1633
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 5: big way for so many you know, it's amazing, man,

1634
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 5: what you guys do to help out with Wags.

1635
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 3: So what's happening there with the physical situation at wagsuse

1636
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 3: For a long time, there really wasn't one.

1637
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was all foster based, so you know, and

1638
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 5: that's a tough thing, man, trying to find foster's especially

1639
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 5: some of these dogs are in really really tough situations.

1640
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 5: And you know, we've done the hospice foster thing where

1641
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 5: a dog's only given you know, a couple of months

1642
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 5: to live, and I mean, that's that was one of

1643
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 5: the hardest things we ever had to do. And there

1644
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 5: are a lot of great people out there who do that.

1645
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 5: But up until I think maybe a month or so.

1646
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 5: It was actually the night we released Save Me the

1647
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 5: Trouble and announced the album. It was like the most

1648
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 5: chaotic moment in our household. They'd been working on fundraising

1649
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 5: for years now to open up a brick and mortar center,

1650
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 5: and it's unbelievable. I mean, the amount of people that donated,

1651
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 5: that chipped in, that offered their services, you know, for

1652
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,439
Speaker 5: these fundraisers that they've done, just absolutely incredible. This town

1653
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 5: really rallied for them, and they busted their asses. Heard Katherine,

1654
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 5: everybody on the team at WAGS really worked hard and

1655
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 5: they've saved thousands of dogs. At this point. You've been

1656
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 5: to these fundraisers, I mean, they're doing the thing. They

1657
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 5: open up a spot and it's just unbelievable. They've got

1658
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 5: like all these kennels where dogs can decompress safely, quietly.

1659
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 5: They've got veterinarians who are donating their time that are

1660
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 5: there at all times, twenty four to seven, taking care

1661
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 5: of these dogs and it's a really beautiful thing. Man,

1662
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 5: it's awesome. And they've hosted a couple of adoption events

1663
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 5: and I think it's a really good Abby's actually there

1664
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 5: right now.

1665
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, one of our dogs is from there. For

1666
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 3: those listening, they don't know elers from Wags and walks. Okay,

1667
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 3: final question, and we're just gonna be a word. But

1668
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,919
Speaker 3: what's the word that you would assign for each other

1669
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 3: right now? At this stage? Is just one word? And

1670
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 3: here's what I want to do, So you guys don't

1671
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 3: hear each other's word and then change it. You're going

1672
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 3: to say it at the same time. It's going to

1673
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 3: sound like a real cluster. But then we'll go back

1674
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 3: to it. Okay, So this is my word for Dan

1675
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 3: right at this stage of you guys' career, friendship life.

1676
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 3: What's the word you would assigned to him saying for you?

1677
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,919
Speaker 5: No hints, Mine's kind of I have it in my head.

1678
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 5: It's kind of weird. I'm gonna have to explain it after,

1679
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 5: but yeah, it's good.

1680
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 3: We'll have time to explain it.

1681
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did the other night on stage, but I

1682
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 2: will tell that story after we get off.

1683
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 5: The hardest man, the hardest man in country music.

1684
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 3: That's a good another way, hold on, we gotta say it.

1685
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 5: The other day, I was trying to dance, said.

1686
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: Something very kind on stage.

1687
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 2: I was like, this is my favorite singer in all

1688
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 2: of music or something like that, and I was trying

1689
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 2: to hype him back up, and I was like, I

1690
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 2: was like, man, you know, if we hand it out

1691
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 2: compliments like, y'all make some noise for I was trying

1692
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 2: to say, the hardest working man in country music. But

1693
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 2: this is in front of like eighteen thousand people. It

1694
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 2: is like our biggest sellout ever in New Jersey. And

1695
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 2: I was like, y'all make some noise for the hardest

1696
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: man in country music. And I was like, like, I

1697
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: had no idea that I didn't say it. And I

1698
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 2: said that until afterwards. They were dying when I get

1699
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: off stage, Like you said, the hardest man in country music.

1700
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 5: So that was weird. So that would be my word for.

1701
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: You, hardy. Yeah, I'll think of a better one ready.

1702
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: Oh god, okay, give me a second.

1703
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 3: I'll give you a second. We got nowhere to go.

1704
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 5: It's true.

1705
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 3: You see our pool, like there was a crack in

1706
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 3: our pool. All the water freaking went out.

1707
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 5: Is that what's happening.

1708
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 3: When you yeah, you see it was a little.

1709
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 5: It was a little.

1710
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 3: I was like, man, no, no, it was completely empty.

1711
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 3: It's like a rock I got caught in no tube

1712
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 3: or something. And again, they're a much bigger problem. I'm

1713
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 3: just giving you a story.

1714
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 5: Filling it back up right now. Yeah, it takes a costume.

1715
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, people are like, oh, but it's fancy. No, you

1716
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 3: take a water hose and you put it in it

1717
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Speaker 3: and you turn the water hose on.

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Speaker 5: Dude, when we were filling up, I've never had a pool.

1719
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 5: We're just gonna keep going for hours. See while you

1720
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 5: think your work. I've never had a pool in my

1721
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 5: entire life. And John Esposito Espa, you know, formerly ran

1722
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 5: Warner Music Natural signed us to the record label. One

1723
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 5: of the greatest mentors, one of the greatest friends we've

1724
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 5: ever had in our entire lives. We both grew up

1725
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 5: in western Pennsylvania and no one had a pool. There

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01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 5: was one kid in our high school maybe who had

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01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 5: a pool. He was the rich kid. Both of us.

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01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 5: We bonded over this. It was like growing. I asked

1729
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 5: Spel one night we'd been hanging out in his office

1730
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 5: drinking McCallen. I was like, when did you like know

1731
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 5: you made it? Because he's had an incredible career. You know,

1732
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 5: he's been all over the place. I was like, when

1733
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 5: did you know you made it? And he was like,

1734
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 5: being from western Pennsylvania, it was when I got a

1735
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 5: for my first swimming pool. And he's not wrong. It's

1736
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 5: like I knew nobody who had a pool. It was

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01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 5: just the rich kid or whatever. And I was like,

1738
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 5: that was like, because I don't spend any money. I'm

1739
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 5: so frugal to a fault, to the point where it's

1740
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 5: like detrimental to my life. But we built a little

1741
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 5: swimming pool in our backyard when we moved into this

1742
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 5: most recent house, and I got in a raft when

1743
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 5: we were filling it up with the same deal, put

1744
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 5: the garden hose in, thought about asking the neighbors to

1745
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 5: throw their garden hose in to split the water bill

1746
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 5: a little bit. They wouldn't know what hit him. And

1747
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 5: I sat in a raft as that thing filled up

1748
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 5: for hours. There's a video, like a time lapse. I mean,

1749
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 5: just coming up deepsing, just rising, dude. It was crazy.

1750
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, okay, got jay, I got done. Pool talk.

1751
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, poll talk.

1752
01:09:56,160 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 3: Here we go. One two, three, crowd. Okay, let's go

1753
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 3: all start proud.

1754
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 5: It's because I'm proud of you. And that's a weird

1755
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 5: way to do this as a word to describe somebody else,

1756
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 5: but I truly am. I'm so proud because I've seen

1757
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 5: it firsthand, probably only second to your wife, you know,

1758
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 5: Like I've seen your growth as a human being, as

1759
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 5: a friend, as a singer, as a musician, as a

1760
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 5: participant on this earth. I'm proud of the work you've

1761
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 5: put in and I'm proud of all the progress that

1762
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 5: you've made. You're a changed man, I mean, and it's

1763
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 5: not just the physical appearance. It's just the way you

1764
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 5: approach life. It's the way you approach our band, everything

1765
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 5: about it. I feel so happy to be alongside you

1766
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,799
Speaker 5: on this journey and to be your biggest cheerleader. I'm

1767
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:40,560
Speaker 5: proud of you, man. Thank you.

1768
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1769
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 1: Well, and what was it?

1770
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 3: Had unbulived? I was hard, Yeah, it was an erect.

1771
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 5: Erect Yeah, I don't know.

1772
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 1: I was gonna tear up as allurgies are bad here.

1773
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah they are. It's something about this room.

1774
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 2: I chose the word grace for many reasons. You have

1775
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 2: shown a lot of grace to me over the last

1776
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 2: ten years, years of waiting for me to finally get

1777
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 2: to this point, and you've been ahead of me in

1778
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 2: that in that game of health and all these things.

1779
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 2: But you've also shown yourself a lot of grace, which

1780
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 2: takes a lot of guts to be able to do.

1781
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 2: I know from just going through this myself, it's a

1782
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 2: very easy thing to kind of put yourself down and

1783
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 2: be like, you know, this is mistakes that I've made

1784
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 2: in my past, and this is because I have felt

1785
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 2: this way as well. But things that you've that you've done,

1786
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: and decisions that we've made together, whatever it is that

1787
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 2: you feel like affected you know the rest of your life.

1788
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 2: And I've just watched you deal with that and have

1789
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 2: grace for yourself and kind of forgive yourself for you know,

1790
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 2: thinking a certain way or whatever it was, and having

1791
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:48,799
Speaker 2: grace on me and also receiving grace from your wife

1792
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 2: and from my wife on.

1793
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 5: Both of us.

1794
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 2: I feel like grace could be described for kind of

1795
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 2: the journey we've both been on. But I'm super proud

1796
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: of of the journey that you've been on, and thank

1797
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 2: you for having grace with me finally get there.

1798
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 5: I love you dog doing it.

1799
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 3: Okay, So whenever you're listening to this, it's if you're

1800
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 3: listening to it on the day of albums out in

1801
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 3: a few days. People listen to this thing forever albums

1802
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 3: out now. Just pick which every one of those little

1803
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 3: selections in my voice you'd like to have. But it's

1804
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 3: called Bigger Houses September fifteenth. It's it's great. You know.

1805
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say if I didn't mean it, would say.

1806
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 5: Thank you, man, thank you.

1807
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 3: I wouldn't lie it it's uh, it's out. I would

1808
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 3: just go, yeah, that's what. It's a whole bit in

1809
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 3: my in my stand up. We just shot a special

1810
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 3: last weekend, and I do a whole bit about what

1811
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 3: I do if an artist comes in and plays they're

1812
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 3: not good, yeah, and what I say and how I

1813
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 3: have to say things, and I kind of talk tell

1814
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 3: the audience like what they should listen to me for.

1815
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do worry about that, like with artists that

1816
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 2: are coming in now to I'll just change it.

1817
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, now I'm gonna go listen to it. It's like

1818
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 5: he said that in RYE.

1819
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: What the hell, Bobby.

1820
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 5: How are you doing? Man? I know you're so good

1821
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 5: at bringing the best out everybody else, But I don't

1822
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 5: know if anybody ever asks you that you work harder

1823
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 5: than anyone I've ever known and you. I mean, you

1824
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 5: got sports podcast, you've got music podcasts, you're doing this

1825
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 5: end up show, selling out all these big theaters, you're

1826
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 5: doing still do in the morning show. I mean, that's

1827
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 5: so much. And among other things, how are you doing?

1828
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 3: I'm tired, I'm good. Yeah, yeah, but we're about to

1829
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 3: take a break.

1830
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: So that's amazing.

1831
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 3: And if I would take a break, I would stay

1832
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 3: here and sleep. Yeah, but we're gonna go on a trip.

1833
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: There you go, And nothing says rest like travel that.

1834
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 3: Well, I don't have kids, though, I bet it's a

1835
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 3: whole different monster with kids.

1836
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 5: That's true.

1837
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 3: But you know that's for a whole other podcast. Sure,

1838
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,719
Speaker 3: you know called the Dan Cast.

1839
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 5: Let's go, Yes, let's go.

1840
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 2: Well, next age get we should we need to interview you,

1841
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of.

1842
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 3: You guys just have me here crying.

1843
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 5: I always wonder because allergies, we have to go do

1844
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 5: one little thing and we're like, oh man, I'm exhausted.

1845
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:38,560
Speaker 5: Can we get like a ginger shot or something to

1846
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 5: wake us up? But you're going constantly.

1847
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 3: I think this will just be relatable content to us

1848
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 3: three and even Mike, who sits here, is that you

1849
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 3: just have to adjust and like I wake up in

1850
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 3: the morning, I hate it. I never wake up and

1851
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 3: feel great. Sure, never, not one time at three o'clock

1852
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 3: in the morning, I wake up and go like, what

1853
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 3: a beautiful morning. Ever, But I get better. I do

1854
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 3: in quality things, not as when I'm not feeling my best.

1855
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 3: So then when I am feeling my best, god dang,

1856
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 3: I'm rocking. So then I just try to feel my

1857
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 3: best more so that once I'm able to see how

1858
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 3: good I actually am when I'm just crushing it. I

1859
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 3: try not to kill myself all the time because I

1860
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 3: feel I can really do exemplary work. So but it's

1861
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 3: taken me to really just drive myself into the ground

1862
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 3: to realize just because just just doing things for the

1863
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 3: sake of doing them and having a bunch of stuff

1864
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 3: not as good as doing stuff really.

1865
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 5: Well, sure, things that matter. Yeah, And I'm.

1866
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 3: Really trying to dial in on things that I really

1867
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 3: love doing more than sure I'm not.

1868
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 2: I've turned down four.

1869
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 3: Or five TV shows that I'm like, you know what, maybe,

1870
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 3: but I may just hate it.

1871
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 5: How do you do with breaks and with rest? I

1872
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 5: don't same.

1873
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 3: I'm insecure. That's why it's not because I feel like

1874
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 3: I have a lot to offer the world. If I

1875
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 3: don't work, I feel like I lose momentum. And if

1876
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 3: foe minimum, howm I gonna get going on? Because I

1877
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 3: feel like, why would anybody want me if I'm not popping?

1878
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 3: So I got to stay popping. So I got to

1879
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 3: keep going. Not the healthiest, but I'm the healthiest have

1880
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 3: ever been because my wife has really absolutely been there,

1881
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 3: and I mean we fight about it sometimes, yeah, where

1882
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 3: she has to like, you're out of your mind, you're

1883
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 3: working too much, you're crazy, You're and I'm like, you

1884
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 3: don't understand. I turned into a child, total dude. Okay,

1885
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 3: when you're dying, do you think people are going to

1886
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 3: care about that you needed to go out and do

1887
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 3: this TV show that's you know about the Great? No,

1888
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 3: you don't even want to do it. So if you

1889
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 3: don't want to do it and we don't need the

1890
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 3: money and it's not really why do it?

1891
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1892
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, pretty good. We're gonna start crying now. I'm

1893
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 3: super happy for you guys. Love you guys. Obviously, we've

1894
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 3: kind of all us three, we kind of all came

1895
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 3: in the same time. It's kind of the class. We're

1896
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 3: getting older, but smarter, and at.

1897
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 2: Least it's going that way, because it could be like here,

1898
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 2: we are older and dumber and a lot less successful.

1899
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 3: Than we were when we met, and we could be

1900
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 3: having this conference with no microphones and you know, no

1901
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 3: nobody listening.

1902
01:15:56,439 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 1: It is mikes are hard, the hardest MinC. We did

1903
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: it again.

1904
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 5: I can truly say that you have the most direct

1905
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 5: my accept.

1906
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 3: Thank you, all right, bigger houses you guys. Check it out,

1907
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 3: Dana she I love you, guys.

1908
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,839
Speaker 4: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.