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Speaker 1: who you may recognize from television programs like Archer. That's right,

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Speaker 1: he is the voice of the citister Dr Krieger. Is

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Speaker 1: this episode with Lucky Yates. From UFOs to psychic powers

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Speaker 1: and government conspiracies. History is riddled with unexplained events. You

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Speaker 1: You are you? And that makes this stuff they don't

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Speaker 1: doing all right, feeling good, feeling nice? Yeah, having some

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Speaker 1: Leads and Joe Wyn, we are doing a very special episode,

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Speaker 1: And as every fan of UFO Disclosure has always wanted

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Speaker 1: this idiot breed of ape ruined our planet, maybe, but

423
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Speaker 1: it just be it makes me wonder if that, if

424
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Speaker 1: if that didn't in fact exist, if uh, peering into

425
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: whatever this dimension is would even be possible. Well, if

426
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Speaker 1: there's if there is a supersymmetry to consciousness, then they

427
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: would probably enjoy watching a train wreck. Yeah so, I

428
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: mean because you can see the whole thing right, Like, essentially,

429
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Speaker 1: time would be a flat circle. Where's my can of

430
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: lone Star? Where's my terrible sequel? Okay, I still believe

431
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Speaker 1: um so, speaking of sequels and brilliant segues, will be

432
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Speaker 1: right back after a word from our sponsor, and we

433
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Speaker 1: have returned. I proposed that we, uh we shift to

434
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: something else, something that's been in the news lately. Yeah.

435
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: I saw this story not long after. I spit into

436
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: a little vial and mailed it off to a company

437
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: called ancestry dot com. And they're not a sponsor, so

438
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna trash him a little bit. It

439
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: was the Street. First of all, they were very nice.

440
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: They let it. It It was for another show that I

441
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: worked on called The Stuff of Life, and we had

442
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: an episode was called Wired. Was about the connection between

443
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,239
Speaker 1: human beings on the planet, whether it's electronic or you know, uh,

444
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: what's the word genetic, or you know, various ancestors, etcetera.

445
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: And so we all took the tests and we got

446
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: the results back and it was so underwhelming. It was

447
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: like I'm Scandinavian or something, and it was just like

448
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: I was expecting more granular detail in there. So it

449
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: was already let down there. Then love and behold. I

450
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: stumble upon this headline genealogy a warning to Ancestry customers

451
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: who can sent to use DNA services, And it's basically

452
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: about how they have partnered with a biotech company called

453
00:26:54,480 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: Calico that's owned by Google and uh, this partnership allow

454
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: Ancestry to make its customers DNA results um available to

455
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: other companies for research purposes. I want you know this

456
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: is a This is a serious rabbit hole. If we

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00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: want to go down it, which obviously we very much do,

458
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: we're already if you want to go to the depths?

459
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: Could they clone me without my consent? I want to

460
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: run into another me at the mall. One have the

461
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: whole chase and the whole man. I want it so bad.

462
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: For what reason would they collect your d NA? Like?

463
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: Are they starting a seed bank for humanity? Much like

464
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: the seed bank that's being flooded out? And where is

465
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: it noway Norway. Maybe they're just holding onto it until

466
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 1: they can figure out something cool to do with it.

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00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: Let's populate Mars with workers like these guys that you

468
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: know they don't know. Yeah, Nord, thanks thanks for your

469
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: worker up there, and we got another you digging up it.

470
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: I was underwhelmed to the point where I was like,

471
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: what is up something? Then like like it's like it

472
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: didn't feel like a real service, feel like a real service.

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00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: And now I find this out and it's like, man,

474
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, at first, you know, we already know where

475
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: our our data as being sold sold. They everything habitant.

476
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: Now it's our d n A. Granted I chose to

477
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: spit into that little vial, so that was my choice,

478
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: and it was free. You know, if they're really trying

479
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: to be super nefarious and get particular people's DNA, it's

480
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: easy to chase somebody down and get a glass after

481
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: they drank out of so like it's yeah, it sucks,

482
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: but but this is like fine print that I have

483
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: been sent to right, Like they have my studies, they

484
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: have my stuff. Well here's the thing, he's stuff. Here's

485
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: one thing we do know. Gene therapy they would use.

486
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: They would look through your code to find indicators of

487
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: preponderance or tendency for a genetic disease predisposition. And they

488
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: would say, well, it turns out that this person is

489
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: Scandinavia and making this up, I'm not trying to scare you,

490
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: has a higher um likelihood of developing what's something really weird?

491
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: Uh like, they can make it up. Super glaucoma. Super glaucoma. Yeah,

492
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: it's an epidemic in Scandinavia and um. And so they

493
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: would say, okay, well, now we have this this treatment

494
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: that we've patented that can address that thing for this

495
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: specific group of people, but we own it. You don't

496
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: get a part of it. That's the other thing that

497
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: got me because I'm so cheap, you guys. When I

498
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: learned about all the massive data collection, just electronic surveillance,

499
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: I I figured, okay, yeah, well what happens? And then

500
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: I learned that they were selling it and it wasn't

501
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: getting a cut. It was like, that is not cool,

502
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So here's here's the here's yeah,

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00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 1: the gist of the fine print. This is from an

504
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: article UM that I just pulled up. It says, basically,

505
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: ancestry gets to use or distribute your DNA for any

506
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: research or commercial purpose it decides, and doesn't have to

507
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: pay you or your heirs. Ancestry takes this royalty free

508
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: license in perpetuity for all time and contribute the results

509
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: of your DNA tests anywhere in the world with any

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00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: technology that exists or will ever be invented. That's the

511
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: part I'm talking about, or will ever be invented, Like

512
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: that means they could clone me. Yeah, it's weird in

513
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: context when they give like in perpetuity and all the

514
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: known universe, like they go on, they're like, whoa what

515
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: the universe? I feel like I got got you guys?

516
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: Mean long? How long can a blood sample last? Do

517
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: you think? Or a saliva sample last? Well, you can

518
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: also be extracted or something. It's not a one and

519
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: done because you can cultivate it, so they can just

520
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: continue growing until they're ready to make it. I know

521
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: you're trying to make me feel better mad, but not

522
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: helping yourself in it. Yeah, it sucks. Don't do it.

523
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: Don't take my DNA into stuff with it. But what

524
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: are they really get? What are they gonna do that's

525
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: gonna screw up your life? So bad unless they like

526
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: planted on the on a crime scene, But why would

527
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: they do that. Don't make an enemy and whatever Google,

528
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: so they're they're not planting your DNA to murder. That's

529
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: the thing though, of a company like Google has this

530
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: kind of power report. What I wouldn't do is just

531
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: don't ever talk trash about Google or Alphabet. I just

532
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: did just ships sale. That rocket is launched. We're on

533
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: the way. No, it's not. Hey, don't feel bad. Yeah,

534
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean, and if we lose you, we'll just get

535
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: the other version. Use my clones is the type of

536
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: thing that maybe one day they like got a clone

537
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: of you in a tank somewhere, and then you're like,

538
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm dying of kidney failure. And then suddenly there's like, hey,

539
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: we have a kidney that's yours. You can buy it

540
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: from us because you signed this thing that said we

541
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: could happen it would come back to you if you

542
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: like grow another one. Yeah, so you're on a payment plan,

543
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: lay away away. The thing about clones in the basement

544
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: is you gotta be really careful about power fluctuations like

545
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: that can be a big deal just from you know,

546
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: from every everything he learned. Yeah, from everything I've learned,

547
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: while they're in the tank, I'm assuming they'll be in

548
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: some sort of tank that if power fluctuates between that,

549
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: then what might happen? Mutations will happen. Oh yeah, all

550
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: kinds of bad things could happen. You should know a

551
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: little thing or two about cloning. That's sort of a

552
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: thing like Carry, the comedy that Adam Read writes in

553
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: a script about such things. That's all I don't you

554
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: have a basement with tanks? I know? Oddly enough, even

555
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: though most of my Twitter followers think that I am,

556
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: in fact the cartoon scientists, it's remarkable to me that

557
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: people still people don't know the difference between the person

558
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: who voices like, right, this actual cartoon scientist that does

559
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: insane thing. Are you saying you don't have a holographic girlfriend?

560
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 1: Really don't. Although last year a Dragon Con, there was

561
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: a guy who dressed his creaker and he had a

562
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: little mini uh projector with him, and he would stand

563
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: next to walls and he had a Mitsuko as her name,

564
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: and she would actually she could move like there was

565
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: like any jif form, and so she would move next

566
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 1: to him and it was brilliant. It was like oh

567
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: so good. You got to respect the craft at that point, right.

568
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: It really incredible people are devoted costplayers Dragon Con cosplay

569
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: in particular, it is pretty. It's the bigs, the whole

570
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: point of that whole. It's a New York comic con

571
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: for the first time, and it was amazing, Like the rooms,

572
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: like the vendors got blew my mind, but like the

573
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: costume game was just not nearly San Diego is this

574
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 1: gigantic TV and film trade draw and cosplays a tiny

575
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: little part of it. It's so strange to me with

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00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: with cosplay because there is something on a psychological level,

577
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: so a louriing and tempting to to become some other person,

578
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, and at heart, like I know, sometimes people

579
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: can say, oh, that's that's silly, why are you doing this?

580
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: But at heart, it's the same compulsion that drives people

581
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: to change their identities permanently. Or I don't talk very

582
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: much about my personal life on this show, but I

583
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: will confess something because it happened in the in the past.

584
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: I when I found out I usually wear um darker

585
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: color clothing. When I found out that I could take

586
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: a piece of just eight and a half by eleven

587
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: paper rolled up like this, stick it under the collar

588
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: of my shirt and be wearing all black. Then I

589
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: started impersonating a priest on Martha and I'm sorry. It

590
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: was great. What did you do as people? People would

591
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: come up and talk to me? You know, what is

592
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: an easy way around all this tomfoolery is just go

593
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: online and get yourself with twenty five Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: I wear my collar out in Paul like sometimes, and dude,

595
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: people want somebody to talk to as much of an

596
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: atheist as I am, and I am a ranging one man.

597
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: People want some sort of religious place to go and

598
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: just dump all their junk onto. I liked it better

599
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: when you wear the eye patch. Yeah, the eye patch

600
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: is a different experiment. I walked up to after work

601
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: spot and Ben was wearing an eye patch, and you know,

602
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: Ben's a little bit of an intense figure sometimes regular guy.

603
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: So I up and go, hey, man, everything okay, And

604
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: you say I don't want to talk about it, and

605
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: I was like okay, and I like, I know when

606
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: to back off, and so I backed off. And this

607
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: other guy unrelated to the original group walked up and

608
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: knows Ben's going off the eye patch. I don't want

609
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: to talk about it, and it I was like, I

610
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: really thought something was up, and then like later it

611
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: turned out that he was just messing around with all

612
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: social experiment just to say what these fools will do

613
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: while I wear an eye patch. And I don't want

614
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: to talk about frenzy cause I don't know. I'm with you,

615
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't know about I don't know about fools. But yeah,

616
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: it was say, oh gosh, man, rocketing eye patch. I

617
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: think it's disrespectful if your eyes work to do it permanently,

618
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, because I was thinking, what if I run

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00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: into someone who actually has because you could tell a

620
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 1: real eye patch versus a fake eye patch. The real

621
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: ones are obviously medical devices and they've got gauze and

622
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: stuff on them. You don't really see people walking around

623
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: with the black eye patch, but right, and so if

624
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: I ran, if I ran into that person, it would

625
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: be like running into a genuine priest. What I'm dressed

626
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: as a priest, I would have to I don't know

627
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: if I would just turn tail and try to disappear,

628
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: or if I would try to see if my BS

629
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: skills were accurately claim you know, I'm in the internet,

630
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: uh minister and I saw people that might have needed

631
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: to reach out, and so I slapped on a little collar. Yeah,

632
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: pulled the Dave Chappelle thing. Just because I'm dressed this

633
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: way does not make me a police. Oh boy, who

634
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I've derailed us a little bit. Let me

635
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: reel it back. Yeah, okay, what if you ran into

636
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: your clone? If I ran into my clone, I would

637
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: love it. I would The eye patch is the only

638
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: one that tells us who the real that's that's what

639
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: I need to do. Um. It's It's interesting because when

640
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: we talk about the scientist cloning, they're actually some very

641
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: dangerous problems with the clones for some reason that we

642
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: don't understand, tend to be much less healthy. Like Dolly

643
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: the Sheep was just that that four lamb did not

644
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: get a fair shake from the start. Can you believe

645
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: it's been since nine when Dolly the Sheep was Yeah,

646
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that was last century. I figured

647
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: that was definitely. Wow. It feels like we haven't gotten

648
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: that far. That really stopped that unless a com it's

649
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: got warehouses full of us. There are theories about human

650
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: cloning centers that are all over the Internet, and we've

651
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: been written to many times asking us to cover these things.

652
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: Why are why are you not? You need a man

653
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: in the field, that's the problem. Yeah, we need somebody

654
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: to go out there and try and infiltrate one of

655
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: these things. You need Lucky Aids, slightly successful voice actor.

656
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: I want to clone myself. I want to want to

657
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: get off this money trade. And the thing is, if

658
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: we send a clone out, you know, it'll be a

659
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: it will be a tragedy when something happens to them,

660
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: but it'll be a tragedy we originals can all experience together.

661
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: Thing this is when we get a clone of ourselves.

662
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: First of all, they're gonna be a baby, right, so

663
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: it's like, who knows if this baby is even gonna

664
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: live past six months, and it's still just gonna be

665
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: a baby. They'll just come out fully formed. We're not

666
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: there yet. We're not to venture Brothers where it's like

667
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: we've got these tanks and beds and all that kind

668
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: of stuff. It's like, no, we're gonna have age. Acceleration

669
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: is a whole different. Yeah, it's the consciousness really that

670
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: we got to get out of our bodies. Making more

671
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: meat versions of ourselves is silly. If we are this

672
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: close to the singularity of melding with machinery, right, but

673
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: I want to go. But that's the question. Would it

674
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: be just a copy of your consciousness? You know, it's

675
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: like that old Theseus's ship, right, the old idea that

676
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: if you slowly replace pieces of a ship over time,

677
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: still the same ship. Yeah, yeah, because you're calling it whatever. Yeah,

678
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: it's a completely different things. Sure, why not as long

679
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: as you've got I mean, all we are is a

680
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: bag of chemicals with memories, right, which are chemically induced.

681
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: So if you can keep those memories and keep building

682
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: on them, which is the way at least our understanding

683
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: of how we work. Uh, sure, why not. It's just

684
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: a different version of what we're already doing. It's just

685
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 1: and you cooie if we get hit by a rock

686
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: and you might not know, I mean you would know,

687
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: but it would be a relatively academic fact after that,

688
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: where you know, maybe in the future it would be

689
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: a fun fact that you tell your friends at parties.

690
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: You're like, you know, I used to be made out

691
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: of like weird meat meat I had. A part of

692
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: me had to be cut off because I mangled it

693
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: when I fell up my bicycle which reads those anymore?

694
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: Did you, guys ever read the comic that's available online,

695
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 1: I think through existential comics. It was called The Machine,

696
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: and it was all a thought experiment about this very

697
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: thing with a teleportation machine with every time you teleport,

698
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: you die, and another copy is created in the prestige. Yeah,

699
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: essentially the same thing. And in this story, I won't

700
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: toil it too much, but it's such a popular thing

701
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: because you can teleport anywhere and everyone's just doing it,

702
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: and everyone is just killing themselves and reconstituting themselves up right, like, like,

703
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: is there even a blip in the mind of the

704
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: clone that lets them know that they're a clone? In

705
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: subjective they're probably in subjective time. There probably wouldn't be

706
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: Ideally there wouldn't. We've talked about this before over over cocktails.

707
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: He sounds so classy. Yes, well, you know, it's just

708
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: what's just because this kind of thing where when you

709
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: had a few beverages, you can really go around around

710
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: stuff like this for a while. But to think of

711
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: the problem with that is we all. I don't know

712
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: about you, guys, but I always thought that I sounded

713
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: way smarter than I actually did. You know usually sound

714
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: about as smart as you are. I'm gonna choose to

715
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: interpret that as a compliment as it wasn't so. But

716
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,479
Speaker 1: in current let's say you could have a clone, right, okay, yeah,

717
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: they could sort of accelerated it's age up to somewhere point.

718
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: Would you want to have one around? Let's say like,

719
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: oh no, Mike livers failing thanks to our conversations about

720
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: this very thing. Now I need my spare part. I

721
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: would keep the meat in a tank for spare part. Yeah,

722
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: you couldn't make it to me being downloaded. You wouldn't

723
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: even like, do I want to be friends with him?

724
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: And then you go like, by the way, I'm taking

725
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: your liver well, and you hear me, yeah, thanks o me,

726
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: And then you start fighting about who, like who deserves

727
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: to live more? Is the original who is failing to

728
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: live more? Or does the improved clone deserve to live more?

729
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: Who knows everything? I think we should just I think

730
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: the answer that a lot of people will find is

731
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: maybe it's just easier to make organs. I don't know

732
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: if it's more more difficult or if it's easier because

733
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: you have to build an entire support system to impersonate

734
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: the rest of the body. For that liver, there'd have

735
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: to be something like blood going through it. But in

736
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: theory that couldn't you do it like you know, chicken

737
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: McNuggets style where it was all on an assembly line.

738
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: You could just make dozens of livers. Yeah, kind of

739
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: maybe exactly like times and such, kind of have like

740
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 1: a selection, you know, like I don't know, Oh man,

741
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be instantly used by nefarious billionaires.

742
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: Did you also, did you just read this study? Um, well,

743
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's studied. I'm not on this,

744
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: but there were rumors going around that, uh, people have

745
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: discovered transfusions of blood from young mice into old mice

746
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: improved their health. Real life vampire, we're talking right, this

747
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: is a real thing now in Silicon Valley on the

748
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: TV show it was there, But also in real life

749
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: of infusing young blood into that's ridiculous star and we

750
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: can constantly making new blood, right, We're not just using

751
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: the tank of blood we were born with, so we

752
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: don't have I don't know, I don't know for how

753
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: long How long does this attitude last blood it sounds

754
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: vigor for the rest of time, or does it after

755
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: a week. That's how gonna say. Imagine it's like taking

756
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: a vitamin supplement or something or just get through you essentially. Yeah, yeah,

757
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: battery Yeah. Well also, you know, Mace Witter, what if

758
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: it's just what if it's just like twenty minutes? You

759
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: know that's Uh? Is it worth it? Right? Thanks? College kid?

760
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: Don't life gave me twenty minutes? Uh? Did you guys

761
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: watch Silicon Valley this season? There's this whole, this whole

762
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: thing based on this where it's a guy who was

763
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: just employed with a salary to sit there for twenty

764
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: minutes and infuse blood. It's based on character. Yeah, it's

765
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: based on actual Well I can give you some of

766
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: the background, you guys. So there's a this story got

767
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: reported in M I T. Technology Review. Uh. It is

768
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: being offered as an anti aging thing from a company

769
00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: called Ambrosia Topi and oh for eight grand a pop,

770
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: they will uh yeah, they will inject you. I feel

771
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: like all four of us are so creepy by calling

772
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: it new blood, but that's what it is, young blood.

773
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: Young boy looks like the Radiohead song We Suck young Blood.

774
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: They were prescients, weren't they? So? Uh, the guy who

775
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 1: started Jesse Karmazin said that within a month, most participants

776
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: see improvements from the one time infusion of a two

777
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: leader bag full of plasma. So uh. Several scientists say

778
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: his trial is so poorly designed it can't hope to

779
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: provide evidence about the effects, and was also a pay

780
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: to participate study that collected four point eight million from

781
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: the participants that many people lined up Yeah wow, wow,

782
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: you know, I want to see how this shakes out.

783
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying that a lot of

784
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: other experts are skeptical to say the least. But I

785
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: have to ask if we assume it were like if

786
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: somehow it worked, which biologically at this point doesn't make sense.

787
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: But but if it worked, what would be the point

788
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: where you would not do it? You know? Would it

789
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: have to be like the time span is not enough,

790
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: Would someone have to die? Would you be taking all

791
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: of someone's blood and then living a more healthy virile five.

792
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: It just strikes me as such a boogie thoughtless thing

793
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: to do. In the first place, we know blood donation

794
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: centers are always in short supply, not enough people donate blood,

795
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: and we're just like scooping up all the blood that

796
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: like dying children needs and just just like feel good

797
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: a little pep in myself. But imagine, imagine if you

798
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 1: could make a living, like an actual living and pay

799
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: rent just by giving your blood away to these ultra

800
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 1: rich humans. Would you do? But wouldn't you feel terrible

801
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: all the time? You'd just be a blood bag? Yeah,

802
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 1: you would literally be something. No, that's a terrible life.

803
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: That's not all. That's not all. That's cool though. You

804
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: could play some PlayStation you made all the time, like

805
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: about to pass out. You just cookie. Yeah, were just

806
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: cooking in an oculus rift and you're good to get. No,

807
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: what a terrible stop it people, It's awful, all right,

808
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: I'll admit that if I even really wanted to clone,

809
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: just like the idea of it. Yeah, of course, yeah,

810
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: of course I would. If I ran into another meal

811
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: at the mall, it would be the best. It would

812
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: be cool, like hopefully if they had similar personalities, which

813
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: we don't know if they would, we don't know, we

814
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: don't know. Right, there's the one. There's this one farmer

815
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: that had a beloved bull, and this bull would come

816
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: in and out of the house all the time, and

817
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: the bull finally died and they went to like Korea

818
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: to have this thing cloned, and it came in at

819
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: it out like, oh, it's just like old rab or whatever.

820
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: The bulls and then the bull turned on them because

821
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: clearly they've never seen science fiction. So the bull became

822
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: this horrible, crazy, rampaging bull that they had to put down.

823
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: And they should have been able to tell with the

824
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: mustache and all patch also, don't let bulls in the house.

825
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: That is a bad one. Yeah, you got a bull, bullyard.

826
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: That's when people that's when people tell me on my

827
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: first day, told me on my first day starting here,

828
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,479
Speaker 1: should we we should we take a quick stop, hop

829
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: off the bull and take a sponsor break and then

830
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: hop back on. Sounds great and ride. So now our

831
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: our soudan finds us arriving at something that Matt Noel

832
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: and I had talked about a lot off air, which

833
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: is our earlier interview about disclosure with Stephen Greer Aliens.

834
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: This is one of the things you had mentioned off

835
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: here too. I wanted to bring that up earlier and

836
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: tie to something we mentioned, this idea of being watched

837
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: by some force and the idea that they're sort of

838
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: watching us screw up our lives. And our planet in

839
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: our society. And we talked in the interview about if

840
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: these are extra dimensional creatures, do they have some purpose

841
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: and interacting with us? Like are they here to help us?

842
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: Are they watched waiting to watch us burn ourselves to

843
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: the ground so they can swoop in and do something

844
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: with what we leave behind. I don't know. I think

845
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: that's that was one of my favorite parts of that discussion.

846
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm always I'm always terrified with the quietly terrified. I

847
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: would think a very like repressed British kind of terrified.

848
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: When I think about the physicist who say Stephen Hawkins

849
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: is one famous example, but the physicist who say we

850
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: don't to meet extra terrestrials, why would they come all

851
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: this way if they were traveling, you know, according to

852
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: the dimensional rules we understand. And more even more disturbing,

853
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: what if what if there are other civilizations? Are SINCHI

854
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: intelligent beings? They can hear all the signals we're trying

855
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: to put out and they're just not responding. Yeah, maybe

856
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: they're just like no way, Yeah, And maybe they're hiding.

857
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: Maybe they're hiding. Maybe we're collectively our species. Is that

858
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: idiot in the horror movie who's like, hey, guys, I

859
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: heard something weird in this house. I better go down there.

860
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: I'll be down the run up the stairs. See. I

861
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: think we're just more in our infancy. If there are

862
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: other intelligence spaces, baby, were nothing compared to the lifespan

863
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: of a planet. I mean, we're in the middle of

864
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: how many times has there been a mass extinction them?

865
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: We're in the middle of the sixth one right now. Yeah, okay,

866
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: so so five times before everything has been wiped out,

867
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: and so we're just the leaders at this one. Like

868
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: we have not been on this planet for that long

869
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: as a species. Uh. I'm going to say evolution, because

870
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: that's how it works. You know, we've evolved during just

871
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: this small amount of time. Great, we have thumbs and

872
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: big brain cavities. But my question to all that is

873
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: that maybe there are and maybe you know, they're watching

874
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: us and all that kind of stuff and don't want

875
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 1: to have anything to do with us or our planets

876
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: set up. Maybe species can't evolved to such a state

877
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: to even make it off a planet, you know what

878
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Like maybe the universal laws or whatever, just

879
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: like why would we ever want to infect other places

880
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: with you? I don't know I mean that the Earth

881
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: is like an organism basically, uh, you know, and every

882
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: creature on it is another organism that is fighting for

883
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: space all that kind of stuff, and humans are really

884
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: running wild on ours and you know, at some point

885
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 1: we're going to throw good numbers of ourselves off one

886
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: way or the other. And maybe that's just how life works,

887
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: uh in the universe, is that we can only get

888
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: so far. Any species can only get so far before

889
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: they just burn themselves out or throw themselves off the

890
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: planet because they get too smart their own good. I

891
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: really like that you pointed that out, because the one

892
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: of the things that we've explored in the past, which

893
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: is bothers people on existential level, is just what you said.

894
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: It's a massive um. I guess I could say it's

895
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: a massive pain in the ass I can say on

896
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 1: the air, right, yeah, Okay, Well, I think we've loosened

897
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: the reins a little. That's true from the Mars interview.

898
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: I forgot about that, yes, But the point is, you know,

899
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: it's it's a massive pain to take anything that's specifically

900
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: adapted to living in this larger organism recreated to buy

901
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: mint uh in a sustainable way, and then just put

902
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: it out in glorified Um, I mean the best we

903
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: can do, but a glorified container, right, and then and

904
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: then say okay, let's just keep playing this lottery until

905
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: we can build something, so I says, something larger and

906
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: so I sustainable. It seems like the future of space

907
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: exploration is going to belong to whatever new life form

908
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: humanity creates. So we're not the protagonist. Really, we're like

909
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: the yeah, and they're like the Midwives or something. Yeah, yeah,

910
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: we we were the results. And you know, there's of

911
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: course the theories that the life on this planet evolved

912
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: from commets and things smashing into it because somewhere else

913
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: there were these organisms and the microscopic level that attached

914
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: to the various comments and whatnot got here and then boom,

915
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: life happened. And so you know, if we really want

916
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: to get off planet, I say we just start, you know,

917
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 1: put put our personal microbe on some rocks and shoot

918
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: them in the space and hope for the best. Get

919
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: some spermozoa and some eggs on these rocks and get

920
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: them out there. Trying to put a man. Why would

921
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: we try to put humans on Mars where they're just

922
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: gonna get bombarded with radiations and nightmare scenarios that they'll

923
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: never survive. Is it because we just want to have

924
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: one guy or one lady who can one up buzz Aldrin?

925
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: And a conversation later, I had a baby? What did

926
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: you do? That was one of the most fascinating things

927
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: from the Mars episode. There procreating on Mars and how

928
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: how long it will take to figure out if that's

929
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: even possible. I mean, it's so like completely unsustainable. Was

930
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: I think they could take a hundred people at a

931
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 1: time and their goal is to get a million people,

932
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: And they were saying by the time that everyone got there,

933
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: there'd be a whole new generation of kids that have

934
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: been born. They worked the way we work because we

935
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: grew up on this planet, not on some other planets.

936
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: But one thing that came up in the interview was

937
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: with with with Marshall, was I brought up the idea

938
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 1: would we evolve differently on Mars versus you know who

939
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: really figured this stuff out was the first total recall,

940
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: whereas immediately like true Martians became mutants. So these weird

941
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 1: because they were just growing up in this completely different

942
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: environment than Earth is. And so we started sending people

943
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: there and they started breeding, and then you got Quato.

944
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah where it's that but he's singing your eyes by

945
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: Peter Gabriel and again to go with Hawking. Yeah, so

946
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: why would we want to meet? So let's say some

947
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: species was brilliant enough to make its way off the

948
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: planet or slip in between dimensions and all that kind

949
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: of stuff, and they're here and they're watching us, who

950
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: are total morons, Like with the humans, do not have

951
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: it figured out or else the world would be in

952
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: a very nice state right now where everybody would be

953
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: working harmoniously with one another. We are absolutely not in

954
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 1: that state. But they's going to be so much further advance.

955
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: Why would they come here for anything other than resources?

956
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: And if that's what they're here for, unless we're the

957
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: resource they need, then would be getting loaded onto ships.

958
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: They just wipe us out and take whatever they were

959
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: here for. It's unobtainium. There was a Twilight Zone episode

960
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: where the Aliens wanted to take us all to their planet.

961
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: Everyone talked about it, Right, that's great show they created,

962
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: Like every twisty sci fi truck that gallery, it's even weirder.

963
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: You have a quote Kreager has a quote in the

964
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: show about superior anal technology with the aliens and that's

965
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: why he was so fascinated by abductions, and yeah, and uh,

966
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: they could tell so much just by probing our butts.

967
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: That's that's one of the strangest and funniest things to

968
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: come out of pop culture around abductions and aliens and

969
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: all that. I just why is it always an anal probe?

970
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: Why are you? Yeah? Why are they nation? What's ground

971
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: zero for anal probe? Alien tropes? Like, was it was

972
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: it the Twilight Zone? No, I don't think I was.

973
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: During the Collective there was some real fads of suddenly

974
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: there were all these were forward, right, and so like

975
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: I think one abduct he probably brought it up, and

976
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: then other of duct quotes on the same Oh yeah,

977
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: that happened to me too. And then then of course,

978
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: because it's the funniest thing that could happen is that

979
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: you would go on this ship and the aliens would

980
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: start sticking things in your butt. That's the one that

981
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: people because we are still just who throwing monkeys? Absolutely,

982
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: And I know I don't not believe in the concept

983
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: of abductions. I just don't think we have enough information.

984
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm not like fully on word they but have the

985
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: same attitude towards that as I do about like the

986
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: existence of you know, a greater if anyways were coming

987
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: here and abducting us, why would they us put us back?

988
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: I want they just take us, take a person, go off,

989
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: do all their experiments in the discard? Why did they

990
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: wait for ethical reasons bringing us back and putting us

991
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: back in a sort of fuzzy memories of what happened,

992
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: like what's the point of throwing us back? Maybe they

993
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: have really high level morals in there, and they would

994
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: ask us permission, and they have a booth, you know,

995
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: sign up college campuses at the alien fair where you

996
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: would go and see like, oh yeah, I'm gonna go

997
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: with this experiment as I want the aliens to figure

998
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: out about us. You get a small amount of money,

999
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: Why would they ever bring us a stipend at least,

1000
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: like we had all these extra steps so that they're

1001
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: nice to us in the end, Like they're awful, but

1002
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: they're nice. There's also the possibility that abductions occur, but

1003
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: are the cause is misattributed, you know, because we know

1004
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: memory is treacherous, right, One thing I thought was interesting

1005
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: about these alien abduction stories is if you look at

1006
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: them plot point for plot point, they're very, very similar

1007
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: to the old tropes of people being visited by change

1008
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: lands or fairies. You know. So I think there's a

1009
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: larger phenomenon or experience or something in the zeitgeist. But

1010
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: I think it's also it's also just very It's it's

1011
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: easy to attribute a specific cause with a lack of transparency,

1012
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: but if we don't know, then we can just say

1013
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: what is more likely, what is less likely? And I

1014
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: love the point you're making about why why would it

1015
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: be catch and release? You know what I mean? Because

1016
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: what is this? Yeah, there's a whole spaces endless Yeah,

1017
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: I just chuck our bodies out when you're done with us.

1018
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: I will say this though, and this bleeds into not

1019
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: only what we're talking about, but also my theory on ghosts,

1020
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: which is another which is dimensional echoes. Right, So we

1021
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: could be, you know, the theory say that we live

1022
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: in this multidimensional system where and let's say, dimensions rub

1023
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: up against each other. That's what I think ghosts because

1024
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: I wish, man, I wish more than anybody, you know,

1025
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: that ghost spooky ghosts would be flying around all over

1026
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: the place. God, I want that to be real. I

1027
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: don't think it is. But I and I've lived in

1028
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: a house that other tenants have claimed was haunted, and

1029
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: they heard a lot of things, and every once in

1030
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: a while you would see a weird shadow walk by

1031
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: that you didn't. But I think things like that are

1032
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: just like maybe there's a dimensional echo, right. Maybe sometimes

1033
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: that they the strings or whatever get a little close

1034
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: to each other, and so there's some bleed in between dimensions,

1035
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: and maybe abductees are sleeping and they see this guy,

1036
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: they some other sorry, some of the dimensional thing will

1037
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: rub up against it there they can perceive it. They

1038
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: don't know what to make of it, and so they

1039
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: create this already in the pop culture mindset, or these

1040
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: alien abductions, And so it must have been that as

1041
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: opposed to this other thing that I can't even possibly

1042
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: begin to explain. I don't know, did you ever have

1043
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: any personal experiences while you were there? The only seeing

1044
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: out of the corner like me and some buds. Granted

1045
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: we were in our twenties, all stoners, beyond belief and

1046
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, up at all hours, just being ridiculous, but

1047
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: we would all be sitting there like either watching TV

1048
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: or something, and you'd see something walk by door. We

1049
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: had these big French doors, and you'd see something, and

1050
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: everybody in the room would turn and look, you know,

1051
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: at the same time, like what was that, and would

1052
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: be like, oh, what just happened. And one of my

1053
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: very best friends on the planet and also a big skeptic,

1054
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: uh was left in the house at one point during

1055
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: the holiday season. Everybody left and he heard like a

1056
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: full on party going on upstairs and he was alone

1057
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: in the house and he was freaked out, like he

1058
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: like left the house. He couldn't take it anymore. And

1059
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: the guy, one of our buddies, who his grandmother had

1060
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: originally owned the house, and apparently there was a lot

1061
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: of entertaining that went on during the holidays and all

1062
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And that's why I was like, well,

1063
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: maybe these are just some sort of echoes of those

1064
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: old times and stuff that somehow I don't know. So

1065
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: not a conscious not a conscious thing, just another experience.

1066
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: So I've told this story in the podcast before and

1067
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm just to tell the quick version. Um. But when

1068
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,439
Speaker 1: I was a kid, a girl, I was dating a

1069
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: dear friend of hers died in a car accident, and

1070
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: I got into her car my my girlfriend at the time.

1071
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: She was finished class, and it was like really cold,

1072
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: got in and she was like crying, and I'm like,

1073
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: what's up? And she blows on the inside of her

1074
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: car windshield and the girl who died with her signatures.

1075
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: They're clear as day. And in my mind at that moment,

1076
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: I was like ghosts all. You got really emotional, and

1077
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: I felt like a sense of this thing. But I

1078
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: know now that it was totally like the kind of

1079
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: thing of a girlfriend would do, you know, like in

1080
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: their early twenties or whatever, write your name and in

1081
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: your breath or whatever, and you got residue on your fingers,

1082
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: so it's it's yeah, exactly. But like in that moment though,

1083
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: I was just like done, I mean, you know, and

1084
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: it was like and I didn't even have to explain

1085
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: it away, just kind of like fizzled over time where

1086
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: I realized, oh, I was kind of like really taken

1087
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: in by the moment, but like this is really what

1088
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: was happening, and it was kind of disappointing. You know,

1089
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: our brains want an answer a lot of times, they

1090
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: just aren't ones that we can perceive, and so we

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01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: come up with ghosts. Well, and here's where we get

1092
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: into something very similar, where the human mind is just

1093
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: trying to make sense of something that we don't understand,

1094
01:03:53,160 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: and we call it a lot of times magic. So yeah, okay,

1095
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: all right, I'll buy magic. Yeah. Magic, Well, it's something

1096
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: that comes up here all the time because we discuss

1097
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: how technology, if it's advanced enough, it seems to be

1098
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: magic to us simply because we can't explain it. I cannot. Yeah,

1099
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: as far as I know, there's a little wizard that

1100
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: lives inside my laptop that makes it happen as far

1101
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: as I know. Yeah, I don't know how it works.

1102
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: What's that Arthur C. Clark quote? Yeah, that's what we're

1103
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: just like. Uh, technology past a certain point is indistinguishable

1104
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: from magic. I'm paraphrasing. Apparently that comes up hardcore in

1105
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: the new Transformers movie. I think it's in the first

1106
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: four movie too. Yeah, so there's this idea, right, But

1107
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: then there are other human beings throughout history who have

1108
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: tried to make use of a more I don't want

1109
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: to say conventional magic, but spell casting and actually writing

1110
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: things down and yeah, yeah, the focus your mind on

1111
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: this one sort of subject or or outcome that you want,

1112
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: and somehow you are making the universe respond to your

1113
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: constant thought processes. Yeah. I used to buy into that

1114
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: stuff too, but then it becomes how can I, possibly

1115
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: my little chemical thing going on in my brain have

1116
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: any influence whatsoever on the physical world around me unless

1117
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 1: I do so, Like, unless you're influencing yourself in some way. Yeah,

1118
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: unless it's like weaponized psychology, which is a phrase somebody

1119
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: used that I thought was I thought it was cool, Um,

1120
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: but it's yeah, it's it's true. There's certain things that

1121
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: no matter how much you focus your attention or whatever,

1122
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: how art and a fan of the secret you are,

1123
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: you can look Like hundreds of people got together in

1124
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: the sixties and tried to lift the White House with

1125
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: their minds. It's still on the ground, you know. Okay,

1126
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: thank you, sorry about that. You should have tried with

1127
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: like we tried to lift the bike first, Like, let's

1128
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: start with a bicycle before we moved to the White House,

1129
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: which is a giant bill Yeah, people very heavy. So yeah,

1130
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: it has an extensive basement. I was just gonna say,

1131
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: a bowling alley in it. So maybe if we got

1132
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: a couple of hundred people and like a toddler's bike. Yeah,

1133
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: start a ping pong ball. Lift that up hundreds of people.

1134
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna put it right in the middle of this field.

1135
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: You make a circle around it. Just lift this ping

1136
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: pong ball up. What do you guys do next Saturday?

1137
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: Hopefully lifting up my mind, I'd rather just play some

1138
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: ping pong and we just keep it simple. I think

1139
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: we can. I'm a basic. I think we're gonna do

1140
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: this all in one afternoon. We just have to multitask,

1141
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We could take the ping

1142
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: pong balls from the ping pong game that will satisfy

1143
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: me and then try to lift them with our minds.

1144
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: Or we could see if someone could try to like

1145
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: till the ping pong game in your favor. Yeah, you know,

1146
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: because that's what people would do if they had small

1147
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: amounts of telekinesis right, You'd be in Vegas playing craps

1148
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: because you'd never loose. Don't you ever feel that urge though,

1149
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: just to like think real hard at something and make

1150
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: it do a thing. I tried to do that all

1151
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: the time and it doesn't work. But like like telegu

1152
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: is magic essentially, you know what I mean, We're all

1153
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: these words, all these you know, different things. It's all

1154
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: the same crap. It's just like you want something to

1155
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: happen that really can't, but so you're gonna make this

1156
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: thing called magic make it work. They just haven't harnessed

1157
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: the strings yet in some cases. In some cases, uh,

1158
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: practices that would have been considered magical in the modern

1159
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: day did produce important results, like alchemists when their predecessors

1160
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: of chemists discovered a lot of stuff. Some of it,

1161
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: it turned out, later came back to bide us, like pesticides.

1162
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: But at the time that's amazing. And so I I

1163
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: can definitely see that edge of that. I have a

1164
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: proposition for you guys that ties into this a little bit. So.

1165
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: One of the big psychic powers, which I would also

1166
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: classify with magic, that people will typically talk about in

1167
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: fiction or sometimes claim the experience, is what's called psychometry,

1168
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 1: the idea that by touching a physical object, someone with

1169
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: this gift would somehow know what happened, right, So like

1170
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: so like Lucky is like Lucky is like in somebody's

1171
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: kitchen and he picks up a knife and then he

1172
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: just all of a sudden knows there was used as

1173
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: a murder weapon, and he's still gotta like hang out

1174
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: and be cool with whomever the killer is for a second. Right,

1175
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 1: that's how that's how it happens. But um now I

1176
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: think it's it's plausible or well possible that we as

1177
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 1: a species could arrive at a situation where technology or

1178
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: the Internet of things, which that was used to be

1179
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: a really popular phrase, where it enables that kind of psychometry. Well,

1180
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,799
Speaker 1: there was a there was a product that came out

1181
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: and there are probably several of these called tile and

1182
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: all the idea. The idea was like people who lose things,

1183
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 1: and for a lot of people, this is a this

1184
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: is a convenient thing. And what it means is that

1185
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: you'll never you'll not only will you never not know

1186
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: where an object that is tagged is, but eventually that

1187
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: same technology could get us to a point where you know,

1188
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 1: this cup also has a story that I can tell

1189
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: that you can pick up just by touching it and

1190
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: just running your phone over it. That's pretty interesting. But

1191
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 1: I like seeing the trees and what not that it

1192
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: came from who knows, I don't know what from cup. Yeah,

1193
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: when it gets documented first like if they put if

1194
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: there was a cup is not the best I mean, honestly,

1195
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: it's not the best example. But yeah, if they made

1196
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: the cup and then they tagged the cup with the cup, Yeah, yeah, right, right,

1197
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. So I think that's I think

1198
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: that's possible. But also I would ask if that ever happened,

1199
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: would you want that would you want to participate in

1200
01:09:56,080 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: that society? I mean, unless you it's just another distraction

1201
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 1: to keep us from the horrors of us destroying ourselves,

1202
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: And like, so, what's the point of knowing your cups story? Yeah? Right,

1203
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, what's the point even though

1204
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: it's just because we can do it? Like, yeah, that's

1205
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 1: Historically it's something that we've often we've often said as

1206
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: as a life form, we've often been like, hey, you

1207
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: know this thing we could do. It's someone's like, oh,

1208
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: like we can do that thing, Like yeah, yeah, Like, well,

1209
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 1: let's go into the desert and blow up an atom bob,

1210
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: let's go do it. Our curse right of humanity, Like

1211
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: we're fearless and curious at the same time, we don't

1212
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: care if it's going to wipe out a bunch of

1213
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: ourselves in order to find something. Man, if we think

1214
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: of something, we're gonna have to do it, and I'm

1215
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: gonna stop until we do it. That's just the human way.

1216
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: You got to make sure we can. Yeah. So, so

1217
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: you were into magic at some point or you just

1218
01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: the idea of magic itself. Also, because you know, every

1219
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: religion in the world is is based on the idea

1220
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: of a giant magical being who you know, has other

1221
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: magical henchmen that seemed to no longer really be working

1222
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: out there in the field. But it's all magic based,

1223
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And this is like it

1224
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 1: has such a grasp on humanity. The concept of magic,

1225
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 1: even though it's weird bringing up religions, is that when

1226
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: you introduce that word to somebody when discussing you know,

1227
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm an atheist and so, but if I'm discussing somebody

1228
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: who has a religious background like my parents, Let's say,

1229
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: if you bring up the word magic, they flip out.

1230
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: But then when you explained, but here's what you're saying,

1231
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,759
Speaker 1: and there's no other way to describe what you're saying

1232
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: other than using magic, which is ironic considering that a

1233
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 1: lot of hardcore Christians think any magic that doesn't isn't

1234
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: involved in their religion? Is evil and witchcraft or satanic

1235
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 1: something's like the magic in my book magic. Oh my god,

1236
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 1: that's it's work. And it's not just Christianity to Yeah.

1237
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: And I mean, and it goes to humans being just

1238
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: very tribal and we've got to have our group is

1239
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: the right group and not your group. Let's wipe each

1240
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 1: other out so that our ideas are the ones that survived.

1241
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: And it's a zero sum game. Yeah, I'm so jealous

1242
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: of you. Haven't been able to see saw Ricky Gervais

1243
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: debate or defend his atheism to Stephen Colbert, who is

1244
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: a devout Catholic. Yeah, And he had the coolest line.

1245
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: It was like, I believe in one less god than you. Yeah.

1246
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: It's like there's what three thousand gods in the working

1247
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 1: canon of humanity right now. I just don't believe in

1248
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: one more than you. Yeah, you don't believe in two

1249
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: thousand gods. I just believe don't believe in three thousand

1250
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: of them. And I thought that was a great point.

1251
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: It's great, you know, you know, if we want to

1252
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: get into religion, I don't know how many cards and letters,

1253
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: but we just at this point would like to remind

1254
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: everyone you will never tell you what to believe, no, no, no.

1255
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 1: What gets you through your day, great, just as long

1256
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: as it's not causing you to do harm upon others.

1257
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: That's the way I see it. I think we can

1258
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: all agree with that. If if it gets through your

1259
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: day and you all your beliefs and you rocket man

1260
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 1: do it, go for it. Happy for you. Um, But

1261
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think that well, I don't think

1262
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't think there. I'm not a big

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01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: believer personally and proselytizing, so I don't. I don't think

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01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: it's we say it on the show because it's something

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01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: that we practice in our real lives. We're not going

1266
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: to go out and tell people what to think or

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01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: what to do now, but it's okay to say, uh,

1268
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to tell you not to

1269
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 1: attempt to launch yourself out of a cannon without training,

1270
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 1: but say, well, you should know the odds of you

1271
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: being injured are much higher than the odds of you,

1272
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: you know, pulling off this cool trick. I mean, the

1273
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 1: person you're trying to impress my date you, but they'll

1274
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 1: be dating you in the burn Ward for a while.

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01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 1: Best case scenario, I think that's I mean, I think

1276
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: that's absolutely fine. I appreciate you said. Whatever it takes

1277
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: to get you through your day. Um, so whatever gets

1278
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: you through your day. We know that we live in

1279
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 1: in the West, at least an increasingly secularizing society, right,

1280
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: and we also know that people are shedding some of

1281
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 1: the old taboos that once existed social taboos, I mean, right.

1282
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 1: And one of the biggest cases of stuff they don't

1283
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: want you to know that we get. Since this show began,

1284
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: be people asking us about marijuana legalization, specifically cannabis and hemp.

1285
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 1: M Yeah, we found a various different and surprising historical anecdotes.

1286
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 1: You know, marijuana was not the always the villain that

1287
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: it it became, you know, so we wanted to ask,

1288
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: you know, what do you think about the current movement,

1289
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: which is state by state. Um, I'm kind of contradicting

1290
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: the federal government stance. What do you think about the

1291
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: current movement towards legaliz all for it? Because I'm a

1292
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: huge pothead. What do you mean still he said it

1293
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: was in your twenties. Uh no, that was my old

1294
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: drinking days, and well, in my twenties, I did. I left.

1295
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: I left POT for a while, uh, and I became

1296
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: a real good drunk, uh fun drunk, though I never

1297
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: got bad or anything like that, but I could eventually

1298
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: i'lcohol turned on me. Uh and I turned back to

1299
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: POT and I went, you know, I was and like

1300
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: I with like many artists, I got a lot of

1301
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: neurotic hangups and such and uh, my entire life, I've

1302
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: always you know, been a panicky type. And I was

1303
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 1: taking Paxel and all kinds of everything all day long,

1304
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, having a pop pills every day just to

1305
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: keep me grounded. And then then we came back into

1306
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: my life and completely changed the game for me, Like

1307
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 1: I just put me at ease with things I had

1308
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: never been at ease out before. Gave me perspective on

1309
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: things that and you know it and it was different

1310
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 1: than it was in my twenties, my experience with pot

1311
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 1: in the twenties, which was you know, I mean, I

1312
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,520
Speaker 1: mean my twenties. So I'm just looking at party, party, party, party,

1313
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: as opposed to this thing that I'm discovering, Like, not

1314
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 1: only does it open me up to uh talk more

1315
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 1: about ideas and see things from a different perspective than

1316
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: I had before. I think maybe age has something to

1317
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: do with that too, But um it also I don't

1318
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: have to pop Paxel every day anymore because this has

1319
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 1: completely like mellowed out my whole panicky situation that I

1320
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: was always in the middle of into like being able

1321
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: to cope with things on a much more adult and

1322
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 1: responsible level than I had been, which I was just

1323
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: reactionary before. And we've done episodes on Big Pharma and

1324
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:59,560
Speaker 1: obviously pretty significant and it just about anybody just observing

1325
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: argue roadblock too wide scale large scale legalization is well,

1326
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: that's the whole and that's exactly correct. The problem with

1327
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: POT is is that it's too perfect and it grows

1328
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: wild and uh, giant corporations can't control that so much.

1329
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: And this is again goes back to the Mars trade,

1330
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 1: Like I can't throw capitalism up there because it's just

1331
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: going to destroy itself really fast. Like if as soon

1332
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: as you through the idea of like who's going to

1333
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 1: make more money up here than it just ruins everything. Like,

1334
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm all for a POT. Uh, you know,

1335
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: I also want to keep you know, the big corporations

1336
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 1: out of it, because it is a crop. And you know.

1337
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,919
Speaker 1: So here's the thing, Lucky. Do you live in Atlanta?

1338
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: I do, I do, and I smoke pot every day,

1339
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 1: which is illegal and this thing, but you think that

1340
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: that is what makes it hard to get ahold of.

1341
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 1: That's the other thing is that Look, every other state,

1342
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: including mine, own every state that doesn't have legality. It's

1343
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: out there and it's the easiest thing in the world.

1344
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: It's easier for me to buy weed than it is

1345
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: for me to buy alcohol. And I'm fifty years old,

1346
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, I got a hundred

1347
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: guys that I know that I can get some weed

1348
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: off of. I gotta drive to a liquor store and

1349
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 1: to know where one of those is and guys that

1350
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 1: will deliver marijuana to me. It's true. Alcohol delivery isn't

1351
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: a thing yet, not yet, work on it, working on it.

1352
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: But it's weird because it's it ties into some of

1353
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: the blue law things right where, and those are especially

1354
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 1: common in the South. We used to talk about, well,

1355
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 1: we was talking about the case for legalization, whether it's

1356
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:53,799
Speaker 1: decriminalization or full recreational legalization. When Colorado UH massively boosted

1357
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:57,719
Speaker 1: their tax revenue and the state ran out of weed

1358
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: to sell. Nevada is currently out weed. Just this month

1359
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 1: became like they opened up their dispensaries and they're out

1360
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: of pot because it became soap. Everybody smoking weed except

1361
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 1: the guys in the big offices that are telling us

1362
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: not the smoke weed. Well, they might be smoken too.

1363
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 1: What's that old line about prohibitions, like, uh, people vote

1364
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: for prohibition as long as they can still stumble to

1365
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: the polly. Admission does nothing but create crime. That's where

1366
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: the crime comes in, is the prohibition. As soon as

1367
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: it's legalized and regulated, then there's no problem anymore. It

1368
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: certainly feels like we're on the road to decriminalize, at

1369
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: least in a lot of places. I think the country

1370
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 1: is gladly walk to a dispensary and pay more than

1371
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: I currently pay on the black market, knowing that the

1372
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,919
Speaker 1: more that I'm paying is going to fund better schools

1373
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 1: for my state? Are you kidding me? Absolutely? Throw in

1374
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: on that. Look at the numbers though, it's absurd how

1375
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 1: much money it makes. Yeah, and when it's using you

1376
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: know it's done in these more p agressive states they

1377
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 1: use it. Well, you know, it's like you can pay

1378
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:08,759
Speaker 1: for infrastructure. Already doing that in Georgia with the lottery,

1379
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: which is just legalized gambling. You know, we won't call

1380
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: it that ever, because we're not a gamble state. That's

1381
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 1: all that is. And every way it goes to our

1382
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: schools and in theory scholarships and such. Yea a little bit,

1383
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: but so good again, good good chance to start afresh

1384
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:36,600
Speaker 1: with marijuana legalization. Of like then you past legislation that

1385
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 1: earmarks that produg and it has to go there or else.

1386
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 1: This whole thing is done. What's really standing in the way, though,

1387
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: obviously politicians are a big part of it. You've got

1388
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 1: I think the old generation of fear. There's a lot

1389
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: of fear from because you know a lot of people,

1390
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: that's the fear about losing their their influence. And I

1391
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: think it's a voter base, right, It's the type of

1392
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: thing that uh, you know, my parents I don't think

1393
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: would ever vote for legalization, even though they have two

1394
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: sons that are chronic marijuana smokers. Uh and uh. I

1395
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: think it's because they were adults during the Nixon years

1396
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: when he convinced them what an awful, terrible thing this was,

1397
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 1: and that's what they still have in their mind, the

1398
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: myth is still very much alive of what marijuana is.

1399
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: And you know it's a boogeyman that like, oh they're

1400
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 1: gonna start doing other joys. Zero zero want to do cocaine,

1401
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: LSD any of the other drugs. Just being and I'm

1402
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: a huge pophead, but I'm a huge pope because I

1403
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: love pot. That doesn't make me want to do like,

1404
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: let's throw my body into another weird state that I

1405
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 1: might not be able to control. I know how I

1406
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: am on weed, and I'm the best me when I'm

1407
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: on weed. Uh, But like if I get on LSD,

1408
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: god knows what's gonna happen. I don't want to go

1409
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: down that road. That's that's the thing. It reminds me

1410
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 1: of the little p s a s where someone's like

1411
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: when someone talks to their their drug dealer and hey,

1412
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 1: do you have any marijuana? Like, no, I'm out of marijuana.

1413
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: Try this heroin. No one would ever do that. No

1414
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 1: one's ever no one's ever gone well it is a drug.

1415
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 1: Well it goes back for them that I'll tell you what.

1416
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: Back in my drinking days. Uh, drinking makes you want

1417
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: to fight, It makes you want to argue, and then

1418
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 1: it also loosens your inhibitions enough that you want to

1419
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: start throwing punches. I have never, not once while being

1420
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,520
Speaker 1: high on the marijuana, have ever wanted to do anything

1421
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: but sit down and discuss normally cool topics. Uh. It

1422
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: never wanted to throw a punch. It never made me

1423
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 1: want to go do something stupid that I wouldn't have

1424
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 1: done had I not been stoned. But that's all alcohol

1425
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: does is it makes you do the dumbest crap and

1426
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 1: get doing nothing but trouble. Plus you feel like crap

1427
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 1: the next day. And man, there's no such thing as

1428
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 1: a weed hangover because I've pushed it to the limits

1429
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 1: and I've never woken up the next day going, oh man,

1430
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 1: that last. I'll tell you what. I'm turning thirty four

1431
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: pretty soon. And I had just a little bit to

1432
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 1: drink the other day. Yeah, nightmare. And that's why I

1433
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: stopped drinking, is that I my love of alcohol did

1434
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: not end. Alcohol's love of meat ended. It became a

1435
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 1: one way relationship instead of a two way. And I

1436
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 1: know what, I'm not wanted anymore. So I took my

1437
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: belongings out of sweet Lady Boost's apartment and there was

1438
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: Mary Jane waiting for me on the street corner. Oh Man,

1439
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 1: serial monogamous took me right into green embrace, and I

1440
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: shall never go back. Well, what one thing I'm finding

1441
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: interesting about these conversations is that more and more people

1442
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 1: seem to beat regard listen whether or not they personally

1443
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: use weed in any form, you know, uh, Typically, more

1444
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 1: and more people seem to be saying, well, what's the

1445
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 1: big what's the big deal? Like, when's the last time

1446
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 1: that a crime related to the nature of this substance,

1447
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 1: not to the law surrounding it, but but to the

1448
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: inherent nature of the substance. When's the last time that

1449
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: caused a crime? Everybody currently in our society's to say,

1450
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: the United States, everybody who wants to smoke weed right

1451
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: now is already smoking weed. It's there's not the illegality

1452
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: of it isn't stopping anybody because it's so easy to

1453
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: get so And the problem is is now it's so

1454
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: easy to get that if high schoolers want to smoke weed,

1455
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: they can go get it. If it's made legal and regulated,

1456
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: suddenly that becomes a little more difficult because then they

1457
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: got to get a guy to go into a store

1458
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: to pick some up and then give that back to

1459
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: the kid on the outside. It's weird. It's like, you know,

1460
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 1: hanging out inside the seven eleven and to get some

1461
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 1: older guy to buy you a beer. It's just gonna

1462
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: mess up at some point, but it's not going to

1463
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,879
Speaker 1: knock the black market out entire it won't. But it'll

1464
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 1: put a good step in there in the middle. That's

1465
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: your game. It's weird to think about. If it does

1466
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 1: become legal, imagine buying bootleg alcohol off of somebody like

1467
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 1: on the street. But you could you could just go

1468
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: into a liquor store and get some alcohol. Or there's

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Speaker 1: a guy that you know that has some, but he

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Speaker 1: calls it jin still fast Jimmy with the still. That

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01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 1: is really interesting. I wonder how that that would affect

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Speaker 1: the black market. Well, that's still that still does happen

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01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 1: because this would be heavily taxed. And so even after prohibition,

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01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 1: there were people who kept like cornmash stills. We're going

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01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: all the way back around, uh corn mash stills to

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01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 1: um to avoid pain, any kind of tacks on it. Exactly.

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01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: It will still happen where people will be growing. And

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01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: so let's say it's legal, and then then it becomes like, well,

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01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: where is your farming license? Order farm this? Now it's

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01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: a crop. You can't sell corn to people on the

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01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: street just from your growing in your backyard. Technically, uh,

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01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, we you shouldn't be able to grow this

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01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 1: other crop because we don't know what you're doing with it,

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01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: and it's a regulated thing. People are always going to

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Speaker 1: grow their own, you know. That's they we have to

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01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: now out of necessity. So that's you know, and there's

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01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 1: a huge industry on grow your own you know what

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01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Hydroponic kits and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: A huge industry. And the only thing we're not allowed

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Speaker 1: to do is put a seed in the ground and

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01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 1: wait for it to grow up into a grow and

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01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 1: then take a flower off and put it in our body.

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01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 1: It's always weird to me as you it's like you've

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01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: got these like research chemicals they call them, like lab

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01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 1: chemicals that are legal for a time because they're so new. Right,

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01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: Like let's talk about like the bath salts epidemic, remember

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01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 1: that where it like you know that some of that

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01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: was debunked, but it was like a really potent like

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01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: amphetamine more or less that was causing people to do

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01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: pretty crazy violent stuff and like total dissociative properties. Right.

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01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 1: But again that stuff it was legal when they were

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01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: doing it, and then you know, and then the d

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01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: A catches up, figures it out, makes it illegal. But

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01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: things are moving so fast with like sign researchers that

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01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: kind of come up with these byproducts from whatever they're doing,

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01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 1: I guess, and then figure someone figures how they can

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01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: market it as some kind of like a quick higher

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01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 1: or designer drug. Look at the opioid issue we have

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01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 1: far has people hooked on basically heroin in the form

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01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 1: of a pill that came to them in you know,

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01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 1: as a pain pill to deal with their pain, and

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01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 1: they're getting it for under like downplaying it too doctors,

1513
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 1: Like literally the corporations are saying to doctors, that's fine,

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01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 1: it's fine, pass it out. It's perfectly legal. Yet if

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01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 1: you grow it's completely just grows wild. We never did

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01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 1: anything to it. I mean that we have now, but

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01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,640
Speaker 1: like then, we just made other pretty flowers that have

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01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: crazier effects than they used to. Right. I have a

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01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 1: have two fun facts about marijuana. One in Bhutan, the

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01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: very small Himalayan kingdom, it grows wild in the ditches

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01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: and it's it's legal if the people want to smoke it,

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01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: but they don't. They feed it to the pigs, so

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01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: it may have the most relaxed pigs on the planet.

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01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: Their their pork is probably delicious. I was like, oh

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01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 1: my god, not traumatized by any of its life. This

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01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 1: is the most amazing pork burrito I've ever had. And

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01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 1: the second one is that apparently um marijuana is technically

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01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 1: legal in North Korea, which wouldn't expect from such a

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01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 1: totalitarian regime, but apparently that's the one that's I don't

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01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: know what kind of day, you know, Kim Millsung and

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01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 1: Kim John when was having when somebody came to him

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01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 1: and maybe it was like later in the afternoon on

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01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 1: a Friday, and they're like, hey, uh so we've we've

1534
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: got that, we shot the people they want to shot,

1535
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: and where are you at with the weed? And he's like,

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01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, just letting him smoke. Let's do it.

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01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 1: Is it on Is it on their list of grasses

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01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 1: that the citizens are They suggest the citizens that they

1539
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: eat because there's no food. Oh, that's a great question.

1540
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:22,640
Speaker 1: It is said that that is there is a yeah,

1541
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 1: what a what a great country that is we being

1542
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: legal or not? But even even the DPRK, even North Korea,

1543
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 1: they'll let you posyah said that, Kim Jong Hoon to

1544
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 1: let you do it? Yeah, why can't we? And so

1545
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 1: you know that dude smoking look at that haircut, wild

1546
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 1: and crazy? Y Yeah, I'm sure that what's his name?

1547
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 1: The basketball tennis? Oh yeah, it isn't just showing up

1548
01:29:52,840 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 1: with autographed photographs. I'm sweetweed. Come on, and at least seeds,

1549
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 1: so we see again what's happening is that legislation is

1550
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 1: typically outpaced by social evolution and technology. So is this

1551
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 1: an artifact a at different time these sorts of laws?

1552
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: And if so, what is what is the future? What

1553
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 1: what do you guys think is Is it eventually going

1554
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 1: to be nationwide? I think it will, and it's gonna

1555
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 1: be like everything, It's going to be the dollars that

1556
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 1: speak the loudest, right, They're going to realize that, Oh

1557
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 1: my god, look at the tax revenue we can get

1558
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 1: if we just legalize this damn plant that has never

1559
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 1: been a problem. And they all smoke it anyway in Washington,

1560
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 1: So d it's it's legal in a very city that

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01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:46,520
Speaker 1: makes the laws and there's no problems. They're not experiencing

1562
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 1: gang violence because of pot those maniacs. Yeah, so you know,

1563
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 1: it's a so this breed offully you know, the old

1564
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 1: Nixon era and everything just they just have to die

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01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 1: out or at the time of them dying out. Now,

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01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: if humanity can make it past this next three and

1567
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 1: a half years, uh to where we'll be a more

1568
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 1: enlightened creature hopefully on the other side, and then maybe

1569
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 1: it'll all drop. I really thought that that was should

1570
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 1: have been not to get into politics, but that should

1571
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 1: have been Obama's final thing. It's just going like it's

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01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 1: legal and I'm out of here so I can go

1573
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:25,480
Speaker 1: puppa dube on Hawaii. Yeah, because typically regardless, yeah, regardless

1574
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 1: of their specific ideology, that is the part where whoever

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01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 1: is the president at the very end, they're like, I'm

1576
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna pardon everybody. We're popping bottles. You know what's legal

1577
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: now if you want to touch a buffalo inappropriately, go

1578
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 1: for it. About but it would be like three guys

1579
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 1: like they're like, you know, I didn't like him the

1580
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 1: first the first three years and eleven months, but he

1581
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 1: really came through on that buffalo front. I've been looking

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01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 1: a little buffalo sit now there that feel for quite

1583
01:31:56,040 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 1: some time. You hear about the buffalo proclamation, Oh man,

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01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:04,839
Speaker 1: does you have to Southern accent? Sorry, it was a

1585
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 1: genuine Montana accident. I will point oh, oh man, I

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01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 1: bow to your knowledge of Montonese. And Uh, speaking of endings,

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01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: I think unfortunately it's going to be time for us

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01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:21,679
Speaker 1: to end the episode, but not the show. We would

1589
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 1: like to. First off, say, tell people where you can

1590
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 1: find and hear more from the illustrious Lucky Yates basically

1591
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 1: on Twitter or Instagram. Follow me at at Lucky Yates

1592
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:37,160
Speaker 1: l U c K Y y A t E s.

1593
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 1: Both wise are present. Find me locally if you're here

1594
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 1: in the Atlanta area at Dad's Garage Theater performing the

1595
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 1: improvised comedy That is a fun spot. Can you give

1596
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 1: us an update on the building situation and stuff going on?

1597
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: What I mean that building that we own, the church? Yeah, yeah,

1598
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 1: we have. We've converted a church and we're always looking,

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01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 1: of course for funding to build on so that we

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01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: can build like our scenic a shop, so we can

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01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 1: make our sets not thirty miles away. Uh, come on

1602
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 1: down to dads, you're gonna always volunteer if you want

1603
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 1: to get to know the place. These shows for free, uh,

1604
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 1: and then you know it's fun. We're a big comedy.

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01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 1: I had a wonderful experience there. I saw Kevin McDonald

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01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,759
Speaker 1: from Kids in the Hall. He taught like a master,

1607
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 1: like a like a sketch writing class, and then he

1608
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 1: did stand up opening for the kids or the folks

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01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 1: that he taught that did their sketches they wrote, and

1610
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 1: then closed the show just answering any and all questions

1611
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 1: the audience had about Kids in the Hall stuff, just

1612
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 1: dished deep about Kids at the Hall, like talked about

1613
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 1: Scott Thompson like catching himself on fire while naked, cooking,

1614
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 1: like all these amazing stories. And then he was like,

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01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: you know, it's not a huge space. It's very intimate.

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01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 1: All you know, just chairs and like it feels like

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01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: a small church kind of what's the word, like a

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01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 1: wreck room or something like that story. And it was

1619
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 1: just the most intimate, cool show I've ever been to.

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01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 1: And then kind of talked to Kevin after the show.

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01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 1: It was just a really nice guy. And so, yeah,

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01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 1: if you're ever in Atlanta, are you live in Atlanta?

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01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 1: Definitely check out Dad's garage and let let us know

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01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: if you're going, because we might go with you. I

1625
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 1: used to Uh I, uh, tis well, I'll just keep

1626
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 1: a short anecdote here. I used to steal my parents

1627
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 1: car to go watch shows at Dad's garage. It was

1628
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 1: it was great. I'm very lucky I didn't get caught

1629
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 1: because I did not have a license. But they know

1630
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 1: now it's my parents, don't listen to this show. Um.

1631
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 1: The last thing. Yes, Season eight of Archer is available

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01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 1: right now on f X network somewhere ye now or

1633
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 1: whatever you can. It's all streaming somewhere. And then season

1634
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 1: nine apparently isn't gonna be around until we haven't announced.

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01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I don't know. I don't know whether

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01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,639
Speaker 1: anybody came up with that. I think it's Comic Car

1637
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: next week, and I think we're announcing what the next

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01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 1: season is going to be, which I can't say here. Uh.

1639
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I have no idea. I don't know,

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01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:11,639
Speaker 1: but it will be. It will be on the way.

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01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 1: And uh, we hope you enjoyed this, uh, this discussion

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01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 1: as much as we have. Thank you so much for

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01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 1: your time, Lucky, thank you and we're gonna head out.

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01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 1: In the meantime. We will be back next week with

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01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:31,759
Speaker 1: more strange, bizarre, disturbing watch in a while, enlightening things.

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01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 1: We got the shrug from bucking. We raised questions in

1647
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: order to get people's brains thinking right we do when

1648
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,800
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1649
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 1: and we'd like you to be a part of it.

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01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:47,000
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