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Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous, Welcome back to the Give Them La La Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I am here with one of my most favorite housewives

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Speaker 1: and the longest standing housewife of all time, Tamara Judge.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you. That was quite an introduction.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know that we have a we have a

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Speaker 1: friendship that goes beyond the show. And I know how

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Speaker 1: the sausage is made. So I'm a fanatic when it

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Speaker 1: comes to housewives, but I think I watch it through

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Speaker 1: a different lens.

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Speaker 2: Oh for sure. And we're birthday twins.

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Speaker 1: So we both have September, so we have that.

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Speaker 2: We have that mine September second. Oh yeah, where you

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Speaker 2: know we were talking, but we're psycho.

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Speaker 1: I wear that with pride. So why you'll never be

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Speaker 1: confused on how I feel that.

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Speaker 2: That's what I always say. You always know what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 2: You know what I don't like. I don't like somebody

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Speaker 2: that's nice to my face and the talk shit behind

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Speaker 2: my back or in their confession.

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Speaker 1: Right. And you know what's wild to me is we

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Speaker 1: know we're being recorded, we're being filmed, and you know

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Speaker 1: we're going to do a confessional. So if I'm going

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Speaker 1: to say something that I know I'm going to say

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Speaker 1: in my confessional.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather just say it to your face now, right, No,

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Speaker 2: I agree with that one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Get it over with I have.

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Speaker 2: I think it's chicken shit when somebody goes and talks

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Speaker 2: in their confessionals about people, but you can't do it

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Speaker 2: in their face.

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Speaker 1: Who would you say is the biggest culprit of doing that?

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Speaker 1: On this season of Housewives.

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Speaker 2: Well so far this season. You know, I'm really hurt

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Speaker 2: by Gina and Emily because I truly thought that they

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Speaker 2: were my friends and to hear them say the things

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Speaker 2: they've said, knowing what I'm going through at that time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Emily had even said to me, geez, if

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Speaker 2: this was happening to my best friend. You know, Gina,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how I would be able to film

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Speaker 2: this show, but knowing that and still coming for me

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Speaker 2: in saying things, and to me, it's just hurtful and

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Speaker 2: it makes me think like they really don't care about me,

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Speaker 2: or they're really more interested in making good TV.

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Speaker 1: When I'm watching I We've known that Teddy has been

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Speaker 1: sick for quite a while now, and when I heard

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Speaker 1: that you were going to go in and film this show,

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Speaker 1: my heart broke for you because I don't think any

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Speaker 1: of us are equipped to handle when someone like a Teddy,

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Speaker 1: our best friend, you don't know. It's the unknown. And

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Speaker 1: I remember going into season seven and granted my dad

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Speaker 1: had died, and I know that I know that I'm

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Speaker 1: a nut. I know that I go off and I

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Speaker 1: can act crazy. But let's focus on what's at hand

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Speaker 1: right now. I've lost my dad. So just in this

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Speaker 1: very little moment, don't say, well, you've act crazy without

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Speaker 1: your dad passing's let's not go there. Let's focus on

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Speaker 1: the fact that my dad died. Let's focus on the

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Speaker 1: fact that you don't know what the outcome will be

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Speaker 1: with your best friend.

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Speaker 2: MM. Well, here's the thing I people don't understand was,

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Speaker 2: you know, Teddy's were my good friends, but also she's

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Speaker 2: my business partner, and we've built this amazing podcast together.

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Speaker 2: Five days a week. We're you know, we're talking, we're chatting,

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Speaker 2: we're on the phone, we're on zoom. And now this

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Speaker 2: is happening. Two weeks into filming it. You know, she

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Speaker 2: got diagnosed and we had just been in New Orleans

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Speaker 2: doing this five days a week, and you know, like

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Speaker 2: if you're recapping stuff, you have to watch it, you

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Speaker 2: have to write notes all that stuff. So I would

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Speaker 2: with Housewives, and then do it all over again. I

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Speaker 2: wasn't eating, I was in sleeping, I was taking xanax,

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Speaker 2: I was It was not a good time in my

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Speaker 2: have told me, that's it because I don't want to

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't blame you, and you can just tell

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Speaker 1: in your eyes that your heart is hurting, right. Was

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Speaker 1: there a moment before when you found out Teddy was sick.

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Speaker 1: Was there a moment where you thought, maybe I shouldn't

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Speaker 2: Well, I was already filming, so I didn't really have

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Speaker 1: Oh, you had already picked cameras up.

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Speaker 2: I already, yeah. I was two weeks, I believe two

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Speaker 2: I was already in it. So but every time I

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Speaker 2: got very upset or emotional, my first instinct was to

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Speaker 2: say I quit, I quit, And I probably did that

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Speaker 2: three times this year.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that there when you've said I quit,

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Speaker 1: I've said I quit a million and one time. So

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Speaker 1: we're here like, fuck this, it's not worth it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had a real moment where you say,

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Speaker 1: I really need to evaluate this? Isn't me just throwing? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: That was that was New Orleans? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I I took xanax that day that night

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Speaker 2: before we went to dinner, not thinking about the two

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Speaker 2: drinks I had with Shannon.

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Speaker 1: So when you walked in and you and she asked

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Speaker 1: what are you drinking? You had to have known that

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Speaker 1: like what.

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Speaker 2: I don't even remember. I honestly, I don't remember that scene.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember going to her hotel room and when

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Speaker 2: I saw when I saw that, I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: it's yellow, it's champagne.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's Shamps, love of Shamps.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So have you had you had a drink with

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Speaker 1: the xanax before you got to Shannon's room?

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Speaker 2: So what I did was earlier in the day before,

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Speaker 2: you know, we I can't remember what we did that day.

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Speaker 2: Was it the doggie something.

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Speaker 1: You did like the Yeah, like the parade holding the

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Speaker 2: I'm remembering off my memory because I didn't watch. I

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Speaker 2: Shannon sitting down, there was a bar there and I

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Speaker 2: don't know if they showed it, but we were going

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Speaker 2: was already probably two drinks in right then.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then from there we went back to the hotel

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Speaker 2: and we had like an hour to get ready, and

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Speaker 2: me and Shannon said at the bar and had another

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Speaker 2: drink okay. Then I went to my room and I

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Speaker 2: had called Teddy on the phone. She didn't answer. I

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Speaker 2: Probably the alcohol didn't help me, and then grab champagne

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Speaker 1: You were going through you your numbing. I'm sure I.

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Speaker 2: Had a whole prescription of xanax and I was taking it.

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Speaker 2: I was taken a half a one almost every day

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Speaker 2: of filming, yeah, up until then. And then when I quit,

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Speaker 2: I said I can't, Like I went home. I like,

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Speaker 2: I can't live like this, Like I'm so sad, I'm

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Speaker 2: so overworked at this point doing everything. And then Alex

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Speaker 2: try And even Alex said, can you just like not

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Speaker 2: to my issues right now. It's being around these women.

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Speaker 2: And then I went and saw Teddy and I was

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Speaker 2: It was just not good for me at that moment.

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Speaker 2: And then I talked to Teddy and she's like, get

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Speaker 2: I have to deal with what I'm dealing with right now,

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Speaker 2: this is a no brainer for you. This is easy,

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Speaker 2: she's right, like, you know, stop just stop feeling what

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Speaker 2: you're feeling and just go and get your job done

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Speaker 2: and love on your friend when you can.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you got to create the content, babe.

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Speaker 2: Well, obviously I'm not myself. So now we are talking

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Speaker 2: about a fatty photo for four episodes when I didn't

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Speaker 1: You know what's wild is looking at that photo. She

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Speaker 1: definitely does look different, Jen. Yeah, but I mean Gina

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Speaker 1: I'm like, now, she's not even fat in it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: She had been coming to my gym. I met her

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Speaker 2: at my gym. That's how I originally was introduced to her.

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Speaker 2: She started coming to my gym, she was teaching yoga.

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Speaker 2: She was not fat. She was heavier than she is now,

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Speaker 2: but that by no means fat. She's very very thin.

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Speaker 2: She's got an amazing body right now. She's always had

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Speaker 2: And I was more trying to explain to her without

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Speaker 2: me because she was a janet. Okay, she wanted to

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, that's interesting. Can we deep dive into that?

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Speaker 1: Is that how you feel about Janet on the Valley?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what everyone says. I don't know. I just

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Speaker 2: that's how I feel. When I feel. When I hear

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Speaker 2: I'm like, that's exactly how I feel.

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Speaker 1: that is very, very important. This segment is sponsored biden Itza,

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Speaker 1: and we're reminding you to celebrate responsibly this Labor Day.

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Speaker 1: Drinking and driving will change your entire world. Whether you

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Speaker 1: get pulled over or get into a crash, things will

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Speaker 1: never be the same. Getting a sober ride will change

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Speaker 1: the world for the better. Drive sober or get pulled over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially if you're planning to hit any parties this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Listen up, all right. I know people love to kick

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Speaker 3: back with the drink or something else, but driving under

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Speaker 3: the influence not cool.

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Speaker 1: No, it is definitely not. I've been sober since twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: and let me tell you, holidays like Labor Day have

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Speaker 1: a whole new meaning for me. Now they used to

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Speaker 1: be about utter chaos, a lot of cocktails, waking up

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Speaker 1: anxiety in the world. Now it's all about connection and

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Speaker 1: clarity and honestly, some really bomb mocktails.

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Speaker 3: I can vouch for that. The watermelon mint one you

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Speaker 3: made last year, well.

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Speaker 1: You know I love me some watermelon. Yes, that one

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Speaker 1: is one of my go tos for like summer parties.

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Speaker 1: It's just fresh watermelon juice, a splash of lime, a

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Speaker 2: kind of down and out. And last year, yeah, I

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00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 2: spoke my mind about Shannon and Forgretchen to say you

437
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 2: had no compassion for your friend, yeah I did. I

438
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 2: was there for her after I got home from Scotland.

439
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 2: I was talking to her. We were doing the Trace

440
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 2: a Mega show. We went to Brava Khan. She walked

441
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 2: the red carpet and said, me and Vicky have helped

442
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: her through this, you know. And then it was I

443
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 2: found out that she was saying some really nasty things

444
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 2: behind my back, and I said, you know what, I'm

445
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 2: not doing this anymore. Like here, I am being your

446
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 2: friend doing this trace of Mega show, which.

447
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do.

448
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're saying bad things about me. Forget it.

449
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 2: I'm done, right, I'm done. So I had to cut

450
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 2: that friendship off. I mean, and we work together on

451
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: the show. So when it came out. Was I the

452
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 2: nicest to her? No, But it was irritating to know

453
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 2: everything that I've gone through ten years prior with her,

454
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 2: and know about all the drinking and all the stuff

455
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,959
Speaker 2: that I will never repeat, and to see her keep drinking.

456
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine. It's hard. No, it is hard, especially

457
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: when you see everyone rallying around someone and kind of

458
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: enabling the behavior. I don't know if Shannon has a

459
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 1: drinking problem that's self diagnosed, but to see people handle

460
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 1: you in such a rigid way, during one of the

461
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: most difficult times you'll ever have in your life. Like,

462
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: my heart really does go out to you, and you

463
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 1: have been mellow. I'm like, where's where's Tam? I know

464
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 1: where you are, and I think you gave them exactly

465
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: what they wanted at that New Orleans dinner where you

466
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: were where you were sloshed.

467
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 2: I mean to me, it's difficult because I can't hold

468
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 2: the whole show all the time. No, and they want

469
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: to like pick on every word I say to make it,

470
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: you know, a storyline. But yet other people say things

471
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 2: far worse, like if I would have said, what with

472
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: the what was it the Gretchen said to Shannon, well

473
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: some you know, DUI's illegal?

474
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: Oh you would have been.

475
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I would have been annihilated. It would

476
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: have been talked about for the next, you know, ten episodes.

477
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 2: It's like it's exhausting.

478
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: I I can well, I can imagine I know that

479
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: feeling where you're like, I'm getting all the heat. But

480
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: without this, what are we going to talk about? Truthfully?

481
00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: I don't so at what point do do you stop

482
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 1: going back and forth with Gretchen knowing you're never going

483
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: to win, especially on social media, so my.

484
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: Post was not about Gretchen, not at all, not not

485
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: not about Gretchen. Let me just be quite honest. I

486
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: don't want anything from Gretchen. I don't want grace. I

487
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 2: don't want sympathy. I don't expect it from Gretchen or

488
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: gen because they're like to peas in a pod. I

489
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: don't expect or want it. Where I want it from

490
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: is you know, my good friends like Emily Gin and Heather,

491
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: and Heather has been very very kind to me and

492
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 2: has been through this with the process with me and

493
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: Terry being a doctor, he'd be got on the phone

494
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 2: with me in the very beginning when Teddy got sick

495
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 2: and talk to me about things. And because you get

496
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 2: a lot of information and you're like, don't know how

497
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 2: to process it. Then you get online, you start googling

498
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: it and you're like, oh my god. And then so

499
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: Terry would talk to me. So they were always there

500
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: for me. Yeah. So I understand Heather's frustration with me

501
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: at in New Orleans because I you know, I heard

502
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 2: it wasn't very nice to her. So so as a viewer,

503
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: we loved it. I wasn't very nice to her. But

504
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 2: you know, when I text her, I'm like, you know,

505
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: I heard I wasn't very nice to you. I'm so sorry.

506
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: You don't deserve that. And you know when I do

507
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: come back, you know, I'm gone a week, so I'll

508
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: be interested to see if I'm even off one episode.

509
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: And if I'm not, that's very telling.

510
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how. I mean, you're kind of

511
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: the main source of every storyline, so I think that's

512
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: going to be kind of You're going to have to

513
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: be drawn in in some way.

514
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. I don't know. I'm expecting

515
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 2: not to be in the next episode, so I'll probably

516
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 2: watch it.

517
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: But what is different with your relationship with Heather than

518
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: the rest of the women? Why is there something about

519
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: her that because she calls you on your shit, Tam,

520
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah she does.

521
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: But I you know, I love Heather. Heather comes from

522
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 2: a place of kindness. I mean, Heather have had arguments,

523
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: but we always have resolution. And I care about her

524
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 2: and I care about her family, and she cares about

525
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: you know, my family, Like every birthday. She's the first

526
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 2: one I get a text message one my anniversary. She

527
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: was in my wedding, and she's the first one that

528
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: will text us like she's just a very kind person.

529
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: But you know, we're also filming the show together, and

530
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 2: if I do something that's out of line, I expect

531
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,239
Speaker 2: Heather to call me back, call me out like I

532
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: do for anybody.

533
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: Else, and it's you know that it's not for just

534
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: the show, because you guys have a relationship even when

535
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: cameras are down. Yeap. What is it like going into

536
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: a reunion for you? Do you have like a prep

537
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: that you go through? Do you make notes? I want

538
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: to know everything from like are you bringing receipts? To

539
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: what is it like to get yourself esthetically ready?

540
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: I have in the past definitely had folders with receipts,

541
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: and I you know, I think if you're being accused

542
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 2: of something, you have receipts, like bring them right right?

543
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

544
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 2: And then there's been season where I don't need them

545
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 2: or I bring them and I don't.

546
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: Use them, you know.

547
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: So as of now, like I don't know, I don't

548
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: know what I'm going to do because I haven't seen

549
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: the whole season play out, and I know that I'm

550
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: gonna have to watch all the episodes. There's two episodes

551
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: so far I haven't watched. I know I'm gonna have.

552
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: To watch them one of which ones have you not watched?

553
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: I didn't watch second episode because I saw a clip.

554
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: It was Gretchen's for her entrance with Ryan and Jen

555
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: and you know Katie and Matt. I thought, oh god,

556
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: it's just gonna be Tamra bashing.

557
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: I just think I'm fast forwarded through that.

558
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: That says a lot. Yeah, and then the last one

559
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: I haven't watched.

560
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 1: So one thing, I know that feeling. You're like, I

561
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: want it to be out there. I either have to

562
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: see it very far in advance so I can go

563
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: through the emotions and by the time people are talking

564
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 1: about it, I'm like, Hugh, that was a million live

565
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: times ago. Yeah, or I have to watch it very

566
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: far in the future.

567
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: Right. So I just wait for my assistant to watch it,

568
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: and then he tells me, like he gives me the

569
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 2: highlights of what I'm waiting now. Job, I want to

570
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,239
Speaker 2: be your assistant, so that that's what I do now.

571
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 2: So I'm like, just give me bullet points, what did

572
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: I do? What did I say? I don't have to

573
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 2: worry about who said what about me because I lived it.

574
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: You know, you know how it goes you live it right,

575
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: Bar is getting ready for the reunion, and we all

576
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: do our shit, like let's get a botox, you know,

577
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: we have to get our roots done and all that

578
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 2: kind of stuff.

579
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: But damn, I like this season is fucking epic. I

580
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: do want to know. Does Eddie ever have a sit

581
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: down where you guys, you're thinking about, you know, sending

582
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: you back into the lions Den, where he's said to you, like,

583
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: are we sure that this is the right move, because Tim,

584
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: you don't need the you don't need the show any long.

585
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: No, I don't anymore, that's for sure. Financially, I do

586
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: not know. I you know, we do have a sit down,

587
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: and of course you never know what's gonna air, right,

588
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: You never know or how it's going to be put together. Yeah,

589
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: you know what shown what's not shown? So and I

590
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: think it is after I come home, I know, Like

591
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: the first thing I do is I go to a therapy.

592
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: I also talk with the show's therapist, psychiatrist.

593
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: Is this all? Is this all shown? Are you? Are

594
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: you breaking the fourth wall a lot this season?

595
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: Well, my therapy session, my first one when I originally

596
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: get home, that one, there was no cameras on me.

597
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: But then a few days later, I or maybe a

598
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: week later, I do film one a you know, like

599
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: a week later. Yeah, so on camera. But as far

600
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 2: as you know, you know how it goes. As psychiatrists,

601
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: they want to make shows. They want to make sure

602
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: you're okay and how to do like one of those

603
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: five hundred questioned surveys and then get re evaluated from that.

604
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: And she had diagnosed me as being very self critical,

605
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: being severely depressed. She thought that I should go on

606
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: I think it was like lexapro or something like that,

607
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: and so yeah, so I had to go through that.

608
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: So it wasn't like I just got home and it

609
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: was like okay, you know, because I did go to

610
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: Big Bear. I got home, I went and saw Teddy,

611
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: we talked, we did a podcast together at her house.

612
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: And then the next day I went to Big Bear

613
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: and I just zoned out, relaxed, laughed, had fun. We

614
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: had a snow blizzard going on. I was playing in

615
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: the snow with a dog and just kind of sleeping.

616
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: I slept so much and I just kind of regrouped.

617
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: And then finally because Heather had reached out to me,

618
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: I believe from New Orleans, and you know a week

619
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: had gone by and I hadn't responded to her, so

620
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: I said, thank you, I'm okay now, you know, I'm

621
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 2: doing much better, and then we filmed together. She's the

622
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: first one I filmed with.

623
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: That's a I think that that is a great comeback scene,

624
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: someone who you're comfortable with. I think so often people

625
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: who are watching the show forget that this is such

626
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: a small part of our lives that we're filming. And

627
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: I love that you were able and that production and basking.

628
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: They said, go and take care of yourself. Live. As

629
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: much as the reality portion filming a show is real life,

630
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: it's a group of women who are going through their

631
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: ups and downs. There is quite a huge difference, at

632
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: least for me, my reality versus my reality.

633
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I think if people don't understand, like

634
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: people process things differently, and for me, I am the

635
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: I'm learning. I am the type of the person that

636
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: just sweeps everything under the rug and then I have

637
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: big meltdowns, you know, once a year or whatever. And

638
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: pain for me is very very hard to process. I

639
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: feel like when something hurts me, I legit feel like

640
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: I want to die.

641
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: Oh damn. I just like, you know, I just I

642
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: want to die.

643
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: That's all that I can think of, Like how can

644
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: I die? How can I die? And that's like, you know,

645
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: after I came back, like I just kept thinking like

646
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: I can't do this anymore. I can't. I just felt

647
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: so bad. And I know that it's maybe it's not

648
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: the normal way of processing things, but that's how I did.

649
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: Was not raised to talk about things. Yeah, you know,

650
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: it's like I was. I always say like I was

651
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: raised in the air, like don't cry. You want to cry,

652
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: I'll give you something to cry about, you know. So

653
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: it was you know, I don't I'm not good at that.

654
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: And I know I'm not good at that.

655
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't think people give you. I don't think people

656
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: understand that you lash out and I can. I feel

657
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: like I can say this because I do the exact

658
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: same thing, but I do that almost as a level

659
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: of protection for myself. Yeah, I'm extremely sensitive, and the

660
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: talks that we've had outside of all of this, I

661
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: know that you're the exact same way. And when someone

662
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: hurts me to my core, I go in guns blazing,

663
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: and then I go home and I beat myself up

664
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: for hours, days, months on end.

665
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: YEP that's how I am too. And if I could

666
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: tell you how many times one of the cast members

667
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: said something to me that hurt my feelings and then said, God,

668
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: I'm just so not used to you being sensitive. And

669
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, maybe I'm not the most sensitive person.

670
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: You don't think, maybe there's this hard exterior, but I

671
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: am human, right, like I'm a human being. Like what

672
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: do you expect?

673
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: You know what?

674
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: Else?

675
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you're going to relate to this,

676
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: But there are so many times where people will say,

677
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: fill me a show, have said things to me that

678
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: have hurt me, but I choose not to make a

679
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: big deal about it. I choose to sweep it under

680
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: the rug. Yeah, But then when I say something and

681
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: because they make it such a big deal, then I'm

682
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: left as the asshole.

683
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: At all times. That well, that's how the show goes

684
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: for me. Every single year. I don't dwell on things,

685
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: like people have said things about me. I don't dwell

686
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: on them. But yet I say one thing and we're

687
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: talking about it for five episodes.

688
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: It almost makes you. It almost makes you want to

689
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: flip the script and go, you know what, every time

690
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: you hurt my feelings, I'm gonna bring it up.

691
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: Well that's how I feel, you know what I mean, Like,

692
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: I think that way, but it's not in my demeanor.

693
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: It's not who I am.

694
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: You'd before to change who you are exactly.

695
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: I would have to be forced to do that, and

696
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel natural for me. So that's why people

697
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: are like, oh, well, look at all the things she's

698
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: done to Gretchen. I got done anything to Gretchen. Nothing, nothing,

699
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: you know what dead beat dad? It was in the press.

700
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: If my husband wasn't paying child support and it was

701
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: in the press, do you think nobody's gonna bring it up?

702
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: I think that anyone. It's not just slid. I think

703
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: anyone who's not paying child support is considered a dead

704
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: beat dad. Right, that's just definition.

705
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: But they act like I just pulled it. It was like

706
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: like last year with the was the last year I

707
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 2: think the FBI. I didn't just pull it out of

708
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: my ass like it was out there. It came out right,

709
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 2: you know. So it's like, how dare you? How dare

710
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 2: I'm still talking about stuff like that. I'm like, move on, right,

711
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 2: And I feel like when people get stuck on things

712
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: from the past, it's because they're true.

713
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: M Yeah, it's anyone who has to pull out the

714
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: history books every time you do something wrong. And then

715
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: there and then you try to say you've hurt me before, Well,

716
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: what have I done? I don't know, because I'm not

717
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: a psychopath, and I don't keep a list of things

718
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: that you've done. I've moved on. I've moved on. But

719
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you you've hurt me at some point,

720
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: and you're welcome for never bringing it up and wasting

721
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: your fucking time like you've wasted mine for the past

722
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: five years exactly.

723
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine Eddie going on and on

724
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: about to this day about Gretchen and Slade doing podcasts

725
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: and coming on Vicky, going to Vicky's birthday party, you know,

726
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 2: doing a cameo there saying Eddie's gay. Could you imagine

727
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: him just going they hurt my feelings, they said I

728
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: was gay.

729
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: But by the way, if you were to bring that up,

730
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: which is another massive like you just don't do that.

731
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: If you brought that up, I think the women and

732
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: the audience would tell you to get the fuck over it.

733
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: It happened so long ago, I know, exactly exactly. It's

734
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: enough to make you feel like you're going insane.

735
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I feel like I'm going insane, honestly.

736
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: Like why are we?

737
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: And that's why I don't want to watch the episodes

738
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: right now, because the first part of the season was

739
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: really difficult. When I come back, you will see a

740
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: little bit of a change in me. I'm very a

741
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: little bit of a change, yes, so it you know,

742
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 2: I have some ups and downs still, but I'm stronger

743
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: and I'm not putting up with shit.

744
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: Good, I'm glad. I love you just the way you

745
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: are and I'm not trying to kiss your ass. I

746
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: think I feel like I'm looking at me and I

747
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: think you're a bad bitch. And I like knowing what

748
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm getting with people.

749
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you talked about Katie earlier. There's something

750
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: about her that you know, I'm like, she's hurt, Like

751
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: there's hurt in her because you know, I know she

752
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: had talked about being adopted and you know, being raised

753
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: in a mostly Caucasian area and the hate that she

754
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: got and all this stuff. And I don't really know

755
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: where she stands now with her adopted parents, but you know,

756
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: she to me that I could spot it. I'm like,

757
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 2: I don't think this is who she is. I think

758
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: this is like a trauma response or something. I might

759
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: be completely wrong, maybe I'm going through too much therapy.

760
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: No, but I am said, right, Yeah, I love what

761
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: you said because I think one of the truest things

762
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: that she has said this season. I don't know if

763
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: you've watched this episode, you guys, are she had you

764
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: and you're doing like dumplings or the hot pot hop? Yeah? Yes, yes,

765
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: And she said I thought this was a situation where

766
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: it was eat or be eaten. And I think coming

767
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: onto a show like this, it's very well known now,

768
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: Like I feel like back when I started, I like,

769
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: I watched, but it's it's a cultural phenomenon now just

770
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: Bravo as a whole. Like if you don't watch, you

771
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: still know it.

772
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I do.

773
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: I think I felt that to my core is she's

774
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: going into the lion's den and if she doesn't fucking

775
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: like come in ready to eat, then she's gonna be eaten. Yeah.

776
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not excusing any bad behavior whatsoever, but

777
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 2: I just see something, you know deeper.

778
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that the way it is with all of us? Though?

779
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: We all. We all come into life based off of

780
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: our experiences. You coming in and not knowing how to

781
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: process emotion and how you were raised. You know, as

782
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: as a grown woman, now you're having to learn how

783
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: to do things that were not normal as a kid.

784
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: That's where you learn all of your your life's scare tools.

785
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: Yep, your product of your development, your product of your environment.

786
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm much older than you, but back

787
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: in the day, like my household. I don't know if

788
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: it's every household, but my house and we do need

789
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: to talk about stuff like we're like, yeah, you're fine,

790
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: did you die?

791
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: You're good. I think I think it was a I

792
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: think it's a part. It's a generational thing, like I

793
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: know many women. My mother has told me, like, it's

794
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: weird for me to have my daughter doing reality television

795
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: where she talks about everything. I was not raised that way.

796
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: We were. You put on a front and everything that's

797
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: at home you keep in the home, and we don't

798
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: talk about feelings. I think that that is very normal,

799
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: and I hope that I can break the cycle. I'm

800
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: sure you're well, you are breaking the cycle.

801
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm absolutely breaking the cycle for my children.

802
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 2: For sure.

803
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: I love seeing you with your daughter.

804
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: Ah, my daughter, Sophia. I mean I wish Spencer would film,

805
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: but he's so shy. Yeah, and he filmed one year

806
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: after he turned eighteen in p Bull just said such

807
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: horrible things on social media and he's like, Mom, I

808
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: just can't do it. Like he's just the sweetest boy.

809
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: And I go, I get it. I totally get it.

810
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: Every year I ask him and he's like, you know

811
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: the answer, Mom, I don't want to. I respect what

812
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: you do, but it's not for me. And Sophia, like,

813
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: she's a natural performer. This girl, she's been performing since

814
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 2: she was two years old. She's just all she wants

815
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: to be on stage and she wants to sing. And

816
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: we were going through some old videos yesterday, I mean

817
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 2: Eddie and we were literally doubled over. These are videos

818
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: I didn't even know. He download them off a old computer,

819
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: my old computer. She literally was making like her own YouTube,

820
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: you know, like you the computer would come on and

821
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: all you'd see was a chair and she'd come up

822
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: and she'd be like, Hi, I'm Sophia, how are you

823
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: doing out there? And she would like give you a

824
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: whole show. There must have been a hundred videos, which

825
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: and how.

826
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: Old was she?

827
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: Five and six?

828
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god? How about was she have those?

829
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 2: I know? And she's so funny and she was singing

830
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: and hey guys, it just dropped my first single.

831
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: Oh she's prepping. She prepped for startom? Yes? Yes, how

832
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: does she handle trolls? She seems like a bad bitch?

833
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: Am I allowed to say that? Sorry?

834
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, she's a bit. My daughter's a bad bitch. Yeah,

835
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: she is a bad bitch.

836
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: She she doesn't give a fuck.

837
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: She doesn't give a fuck. She doesn't. I think though,

838
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: you know, there's certain things like she said to me,

839
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: She's like, damn, these Bravo fans are brutal.

840
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: Been this brutal?

841
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: No, I think social media has gotten so bad, like

842
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 2: it's just in the toilet as far as I'm concerned,

843
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: Like I've I've read some even about Teddy, Like I'm

844
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: just like, who says stuff like that?

845
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: They're fucked up?

846
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: Like why would you say something like that? And it's

847
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: you know, it's a it's a platform now that people

848
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: can buy bots to attack you, and you know it's

849
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: just it's dirty.

850
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's dirty.

851
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: You know, Well, what I do on social media is.

852
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: I go through my stories, I'll reply to some of

853
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: my dms, but when it comes like I try not

854
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: to like read the comments I have Cayden on my

855
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: social media. I'm like, you deal with it. I don't

856
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: want to deal with it. Yeah, it's really gotten to

857
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: the point where and then Facebook, now we have all

858
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: these fake AI stories that are out there.

859
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: I know, did you hear I'm joining Southern Charm? Oh

860
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: you are well?

861
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 2: Did you know that my husband has a gambling problem

862
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 2: and that we're getting divorced every other month? And oh

863
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: my god, like it's we live in separate lives, and

864
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: it's just ridiculous.

865
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: It's scary. It is scary out there. I stay off.

866
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Speaker 1: In fact, I loved my podcast podcast page because the

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Speaker 1: comments were always just they stuck to the script. Yea,

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Speaker 1: they commented on the video at hand, very productive, fun.

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Speaker 1: And now I've got trolls there and I'm like, go

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Speaker 1: away and get the Do I stop talking? No, because

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Speaker 1: this is a podcast. Am I really having to explain

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Speaker 1: how a fucking podcast works? And I took the time

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Speaker 1: to do it. I took the time to respond, you

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Speaker 1: know what I have to.

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Speaker 2: I try to keep my social media pretty positive. It's

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Speaker 2: about my podcast, it's about my dog, it's about my husband.

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Speaker 2: You know. I don't post my kids a lot or

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Speaker 2: my granddaughter, but you know, once in a while I do.

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Speaker 2: But you know, it's just that one day where you're

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Speaker 2: in a shit ass mood and you're like you just

881
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Speaker 2: want to pop off? Yeah, you want to pop off.

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Speaker 1: They they're not very frequent, but when I do, I

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Speaker 1: have a heyday and then I go, why did I

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Speaker 1: do that? You know what? No?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even yesterday? Stop, yeah, even yesterday.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I woke up in the morning and I saw that

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Speaker 2: clip where it's like they're all making fun of me,

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Speaker 2: and then I put like, what do I have to

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Speaker 2: get a DUI? Then after I posted it, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: why did I do that? I shouldn't have done that.

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Speaker 2: That was too impulsive. But now it's out there, Shit,

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Speaker 2: what do I do? So I think by midday, I'm

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Speaker 2: like take it down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right enough where people might think that it expired.

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Speaker 1: Because what's even worse than putting it out there is

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Speaker 1: doing it and someone being like she deleted it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Like my assistant who's like the opos, He's like,

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Speaker 2: stop doing that, don't post, don't post anything. Just be quiet.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's so hard for that.

901
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I know, I know, I know, I know.

902
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Speaker 2: Somebody sends you something, don't comment on it. I'm like, okay,

903
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: too late, you're said than done.

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Speaker 1: You're a little too late.

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Speaker 2: I go, I'm going to stick to Facebook if I

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Speaker 2: need to like. And he's like, Facebook comments are worse,

907
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Speaker 2: they're old, mean people.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever get on Reddit?

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Speaker 2: You know what? Just recently because my assistants like, check

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00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: this out on Reddit, and I'm like, oh my god, Nally,

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00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 2: do you.

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Speaker 1: Like Reddit better? I don't go on Reddit. I've never

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Speaker 1: looked at up myself on Reddit. They are viscous?

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Speaker 2: Are they vicious?

915
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: This was about a topic that was pro me, so

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Speaker 2: maybe I've liked it, you know.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, give me all the proms. I'll read the

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Speaker 1: pro me.

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Speaker 2: That's the only one that I saw. So I I'm like, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: maybe Rudd it's better. I don't know. I don't have

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Speaker 2: the app on my phone. Isn't it like an app?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't get it. Don't get it, but just have

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Speaker 1: your assistant show you all things pro you that like

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Speaker 1: keeps your spirits high. I want to leave on a

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Speaker 1: very high note. How is your grand baby? She is good?

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Speaker 1: She is good.

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Speaker 2: It's a funny story is I went over to visit

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Speaker 2: her with her mom because they live right down the street,

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Speaker 2: and so went over and I bought her a La

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Speaker 2: Boo boo. Okay, what I thought was a la booboo.

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Speaker 2: And I brought it to her and I she opens

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Speaker 2: it up and she looked at me and she's like, Grandma,

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Speaker 2: this is a lot fufou. And I'm like it's fake,

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Speaker 2: and she's like, duh, it's fake. How old is she ten?

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Speaker 1: Holy shit, she's ten already ten?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh, and you got it. See, I would know the

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Speaker 1: difference between I don't know the difference.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I bought it online from that pop mark

941
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Speaker 2: or pop whatever it's called. Yeah, yeah, I thought it

942
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Speaker 2: was real.

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Speaker 1: And so can I ask you how much you spent

944
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Speaker 1: on it?

945
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Speaker 2: It was like forty five dollars really, but I bought

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Speaker 2: three of them. Oh shit, you know it's forty five

947
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Speaker 2: or something like that.

948
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Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, the La booboo craze, I will never understand.

949
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Speaker 1: I was out at dinner with Janet and she was like,

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Speaker 1: my dealer's coming, and I was like, I'm not doing

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Speaker 1: it's Monday. Like, if this is like a party vibe,

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Speaker 1: I'm not into it. She was like, I don't do drugs.

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Speaker 1: It's my laboo boo dealer. I was like, that's a thing.

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Speaker 2: Now, Oh my god. We went on one. I only

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Speaker 2: the first time I saw one was it went out

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Speaker 2: for Teddy's birthday in July, or maybe it was the

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Speaker 2: end of August. We went a couple of days early

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Speaker 2: before birthdays till I first, and then it was a

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Speaker 2: bunch of her girlfriends. She's got the most amazing girlfriends

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Speaker 2: and you know, out in the valley and so I

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Speaker 2: she got one, and I'm like, oh my god, everybody

962
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Speaker 2: was going crazy and they're pulling their bags out and

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Speaker 2: they have them on there. I felt the need that

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Speaker 2: I had to get one. Oh and so then I

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Speaker 2: go and order it in. They're fake, you know. One

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Speaker 2: of her friends is like, I had to drive to Anaheim,

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Speaker 2: I had to wait in line.

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Speaker 1: I know they're like a craze, but I refuse, Tamra,

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Speaker 1: I can't have one more fucking weird thing that I

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Speaker 1: have to store at my house.

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Speaker 2: Well here's the thing. They'll be out of style and

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Speaker 2: nobody will care in six months.

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Speaker 1: I agree, like, I'm not in teeny babies. Oh God,

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Speaker 1: don't get me start on the fucking beanie babies that

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Speaker 1: my mom had me. Never take the tag off of Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Cut to where we are now and like, how much

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Speaker 1: is it worth? She's like twenty five bucks. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not worth it.

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Speaker 2: Good job we stored them fifteen twenty years.

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Speaker 1: Here we are, we stored them. I'm so happy that

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Speaker 1: you did this today. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I am too, And how much fun.

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Speaker 1: Don't let anybody tell you that you're not fucking fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoy watching you on TV.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Because I beat myself down and I always think, like,

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Speaker 2: every year, this is it. I'm getting fired. Every year

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00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: I think that, no, they don't like me. Fans don't

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00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: like me, the cast doesn't like me. Production must you know, Like,

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00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: I'm very close to production, and you know, they've always

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00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: been very kind to me. I'm always very good to them.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you never know what Bravo thinks. And

992
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Speaker 2: I'm like, no, God, what if they read this comment,

993
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: they really think I'm this horrible person.

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00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: I have learned that they don't give one shit about

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Speaker 1: the comment.

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00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: Section. Yeah, no, I've heard that. They're the ones that

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00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: told me listen, no one cares. It's three percent of

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00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: the overall viewers in the world. It's three percent the

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00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 2: people are saying. So that's where I actually heard that from.

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Speaker 1: So now all the haters we can say, Okay, three percent,

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Speaker 1: fuck right off. Yeah, not a waste of time. You're

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Speaker 1: the best. I love you, I.

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Speaker 2: Love you too.

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Speaker 1: Have the best day you too. Thank you guys for

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00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: listening to another episode of the Give Them La La Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I will catch you on Monday for the bonus episode

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Speaker 1: and again next week. Bye.