WEBVTT - 102: Dirty Little Secrets

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<v Speaker 1>Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the Sash as Katie. The SNL did a parody

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<v Speaker 2>of Olivia Pope. Cecily Strong played Quinn and who played

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<v Speaker 2>Hauck I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't I don't remember this, but he's he's a great actor.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember his name, but he was so good.

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<v Speaker 2>It was unfucking believable, Like I was losing my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the first time we were like, oh, We're like

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<v Speaker 1>like this is crazy, Like we're on SNL.

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<v Speaker 2>No, this is zeitgeis like, this is like a cultural phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 2>If you get parodied on SNL, you've made it, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>you have made it.

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<v Speaker 1>Or your or your life is over because you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Wiener, the guy that showed his Wiener to

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<v Speaker 1>the world or whatever, the political guy.

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<v Speaker 2>We literally did an episode of scandal on the Wiener thing,

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<v Speaker 2>like sending Dick pics. We had like a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>had to get fixed for sending, tweeting and sending out

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<v Speaker 2>too many testics.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, there is so.

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<v Speaker 2>Much to talk about. I'm honestly giddy, like I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Me too, me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Very I love you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Gmod. I love you too, Katie.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Germo Diaz and I are just going through paperwork

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<v Speaker 2>right now because.

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<v Speaker 1>You have like a I have a fucking book. I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote down you own book.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. We're so fucking pumped to be completely honest.

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<v Speaker 1>So guys, here we have episode one oh two. It's

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<v Speaker 1>titled Dirty Little Secrets. We all have some of those,

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<v Speaker 1>don't we. It first aired on April twelfth, twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a long ass time ago. It was written by

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<v Speaker 1>the awesome Heather Mitchell and directed by rox and Dawson.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Roxanne, she was one of my first obviously one

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<v Speaker 1>of the first directors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I think she was our producing director that season,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll get into that later.

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<v Speaker 1>She was, yeah, yeah, And this episode is guest starring

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<v Speaker 1>Mimi Kennedy as Sharon Marquette, John Gets as Patrick Keating,

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<v Speaker 1>and Megan Gallagher is Stacey Keating.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take you through this synopsis of the

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<v Speaker 2>episode at scandal pace because we need to get into

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<v Speaker 2>this episode and we cannot be bothered with all these logistics.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just want to say it really quickly in

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<v Speaker 2>scandal paste speed, so that you know what the hell

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<v Speaker 2>was going on in the episode. So the synopsis is,

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<v Speaker 2>Olivia must protect a new client who's under investigation by

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<v Speaker 2>the US Attorney's Office. Quin runs into trouble with the

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<v Speaker 2>Manda Tanner when a charming reporter Gideon Wallace approaches Quinn

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<v Speaker 2>at the hospital trying to get information. Meanwhile, at the

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<v Speaker 2>White House, President Grant is just nominated his first Supreme

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<v Speaker 2>Court justice, a man who has crosspads with Olivia's most

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<v Speaker 2>recent client.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Katie, that was way too fast. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I feel like it might be a little

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<v Speaker 1>too fast for the listeners. Like, I get it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're so used to as scandal past. But I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I'm going to try to just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>slow it up a little bit for the listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me give it. Let me hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia must protect a new client and their investigation by

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<v Speaker 1>the US Attorney's Office. Quin warns is druggle with Amanda

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<v Speaker 1>Tanner with a charming reporter, Gideon Wallace approaches Quinn at

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital trying to get information. Meanwhile, at the White House,

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<v Speaker 1>President Grant has just dominated his first Supreme Court justice,

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<v Speaker 1>a man who has cross passed with Olivia's most recent client.

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<v Speaker 1>God damn it, we can't stop scandal pacing. What is

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with us? Every job I did after Scandal they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, uh, can you please just take your time?

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<v Speaker 1>Like slow it down?

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<v Speaker 2>We are ruined as actors. Thank you so much, Sean Rhimes.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, yes, first of all, we must note Geramemo,

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<v Speaker 2>that was really fucking fast. And I always won the

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<v Speaker 2>award as the fastest scandal Pace speaker on the cast,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just gave me a run for my money.

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<v Speaker 1>That was pretty fast. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really fast. And also we have to give

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<v Speaker 2>such applaud to Hawk because not only did you master

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<v Speaker 2>scandal pace, but you would normally have to speak at

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<v Speaker 2>scandal pace whilst saying absolute hacking jargon like QR facial

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<v Speaker 2>recognition software.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I had no idea what it meant or what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. I you know, Huck is is this tech

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<v Speaker 1>savvy like character. Obviously everyone knows, but me Ghirmo Diaz

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<v Speaker 1>is like, where do I go on my phone to

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<v Speaker 1>turn on the light? Like I'm the worse.

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<v Speaker 2>I think even for this podcast, someone sent you a

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<v Speaker 2>link for us to like open up our first meeting

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<v Speaker 2>on this podcast and you're all texting me like, can

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<v Speaker 2>you like text me that link? I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I can get it on my computer or my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, Guillermo, I sure did.

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<v Speaker 1>I Sure did. I was like, Katie, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, So that's what happened in the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>But like sitting down and rewatching episode two gave me

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<v Speaker 2>such fucking vibes because it's just so classic early Scandal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a case of the week. The case is Sharon Marquette,

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<v Speaker 2>who's played by Mimi Kennedy, and she's like, I'm DC's

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<v Speaker 2>finest madam, is what she says. She's based running a

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<v Speaker 2>whorehouse for like all these politicians where they get their

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<v Speaker 2>fancy ass hookers. Yes, and it's the first episode, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>once we got picked up. Wait, by the way, how

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<v Speaker 2>long was this between shooting the pilot and when did

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<v Speaker 2>we start this? Do you remember?

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask you that because one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first one of the things that like stuck out

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<v Speaker 1>for me in this episode was Carrie's wig. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we got some money. Now They're like, okay, we want

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<v Speaker 1>to order like seven episodes or six because we had

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<v Speaker 1>done the pilot, but I was like, that way got

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<v Speaker 1>spruced up. It looked like she went through the Emerald

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<v Speaker 1>City makeover that Judy Garland goes through, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, she got this like fancy, like curly like up.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, everyone is listening. When you shoot a pilot,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like they don't give you. I mean, they give

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<v Speaker 2>you money, but it's not like if it's series and

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<v Speaker 2>it goes to series, they're gonna like commit a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more. So, Yeah, Harry's wig and when she comes

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<v Speaker 2>on this show, we have to have like a whole

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<v Speaker 2>conversation about wigs because I know she made a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of character choice is based on whether her hair was

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<v Speaker 2>curly or straight. But I think that we see a

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<v Speaker 2>major upgrade in this episode. Yes, in the first couple

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<v Speaker 2>minutes of this episode, we're already listening to Stevie Wonder.

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<v Speaker 2>It's already like yeah, down down, down, down down, And

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<v Speaker 2>you and Abby are in the Madam's apartment. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Steven played by Henry and Cusick is out on the

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<v Speaker 2>street on the phone with Olivia, and David Rosen drives

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<v Speaker 2>by and we're on a ticking time clock where like

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, gotta totally take over whatever's in her apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the cops get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, and it just seems so cool. Record scratch

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<v Speaker 2>to Quinn standing waiting for the elevator to come up

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<v Speaker 2>like a freaking loser.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, what the hell is going on? Well, Quinn

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<v Speaker 1>is also the audience, right, Quinn is the one that's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what's going down here? Like fill me in? And

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<v Speaker 1>no one's like really filling her in, and they're just

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<v Speaker 1>like you gotta learn, Like you gotta just watch and learn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. In this episode, Olivia is pissed because she has

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<v Speaker 2>found out that her dude, her love of her life,

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<v Speaker 2>Fitzgerald Grant the Third, is fucking Amanda Tanner and now

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<v Speaker 2>she's pissed, and now Amanda try to kill herself and

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<v Speaker 2>now here we are where she's like, oh, Amanda Tanner,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get this bitch to be my client. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple other things about this episode that need to

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<v Speaker 2>be mentioned that are in some notes G and I

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<v Speaker 2>take notes people. G takes them on paper. I take

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<v Speaker 2>them on the notes in section of my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm old school. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>He played a hacker and he can't do anything technologically savvy. Okay. No,

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<v Speaker 2>David Rosen calls Olivia by her whole name, Olivia Carolyn Pope.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember where Carolyn came from? Hell?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I texted Carrie yesterday and I said, do you

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<v Speaker 2>remember where Carolyn comes from? And she's like not no,

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<v Speaker 2>But I remember being one and everyone being like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, like it's so lovely that her middle name

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<v Speaker 2>is Carolyn, because that's I want to say Shonda's middle name,

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<v Speaker 2>but I could be do not remember this at all?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember this at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, I'm texting. I'm gonna text Shana right now and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna ask her. I really feel like it was

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<v Speaker 2>a special nod to something.

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<v Speaker 1>This is also I remember in this in that scene

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<v Speaker 1>where he says her middle name is the first time

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<v Speaker 1>he goes to sort of poker and Huck steps up

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, do not touch her. And it's the

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<v Speaker 1>first time you see Huck. He sort of like, You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like Olivia's like protective, like pitbull, like he's like

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<v Speaker 1>her protector. And I love that moment because he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I will snap your neck.

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<v Speaker 2>Modifuga it was really that's when you realize that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>these aren't just lawyers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Quinn walks in in episode one and says, so you're

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<v Speaker 2>all lawyers, and you're like, no, lawyers are for losers.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we're fixers, we're crisis managers. It's a whole package

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<v Speaker 2>of different kinds of people. And I always thought in

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<v Speaker 2>episode two when David Rosen goes to touch Olivia and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, do not touch her, You're like, holy shit,

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<v Speaker 2>these people are. Yeah, they're like a whole mixed bag

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<v Speaker 2>of crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they have scary baggage.

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<v Speaker 2>This is also the episode where we meet Morris, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>who we've got to have on this podcast. I love

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<v Speaker 2>him so much. Morris is the White House security guard

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<v Speaker 2>at the security gate that checks people in, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>so lovely and so wonderful and again, such a secret

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<v Speaker 2>sauce to this show because our guest stars are co stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Our people with one line are just fucking killing it.

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<v Speaker 2>We meet Morris, and then right with Morris, Olivia Pope

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<v Speaker 2>is not getting checked into the White House right Like

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<v Speaker 2>they're not letting her in. In this episode, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember why do you remember?

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<v Speaker 1>Why? G that Cyrus thinks that Olivia is not on

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<v Speaker 1>the President's side anymore. So he's like, he revokes her

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<v Speaker 1>past to the White House.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. And so then we meet Billy Chambers who's

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<v Speaker 2>in line right behind Olivia, and he's like, oh, hold on,

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<v Speaker 2>let me just call the front gate and like let

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<v Speaker 2>you in, and she's like, thanks so much. Billy. Did

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<v Speaker 2>Billy know at that time that he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the Billy Chambers He couldn't have, right, No.

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<v Speaker 1>None of them, Well, none of us knew, right, like

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<v Speaker 1>all the crazy stuff that we do on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>none of us knew till like the table read in.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode where we're dealing with the Madam. Abby's all

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<v Speaker 2>pissed because Steven. She finds out Steven's sleeping or has

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<v Speaker 2>slept with whores and paid prostitutes.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Madams book. Yeah, as one of her clients exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you guys have those scenes where you're going

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<v Speaker 2>through I don't think Huck is there, but it's Harrison

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<v Speaker 2>Wright and it's Stephen and they're talking about what sunny

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<v Speaker 2>day is, what hard like speaking Greek and then around

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<v Speaker 2>the world, around the world, So like for those of you,

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<v Speaker 2>I was laughing and Abby Darby does such an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>job of being uncomfortable and asking like, well, what's hardwood floors?

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<v Speaker 2>Like in her snarky ass way, and who what's the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is so brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's when there's nothing to match the the the

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<v Speaker 1>carpets don't match the drapes or something like.

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<v Speaker 2>That, it just means that she's bald.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, Like she's yeah, yeah, she got that Brazilian wax.

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<v Speaker 2>She's but like full, full throttle, full full full bald headed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's terrifying. Okay. Then she's like, okay, fine, sunny day

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<v Speaker 2>and they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, you don't have to wear a raincoat?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is guys, I'm so lame. I'm sitting on

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<v Speaker 2>my bed. I'm like hysterical laughing. Can you imagine being

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<v Speaker 2>a writer in the writer's room coming up with this bullshit?

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<v Speaker 2>I do not. This is what I love about Scandal,

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<v Speaker 2>especially these this early, these early skittles of why it

0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.520
<v Speaker 2>gives me like just such it makes me giddy is

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<v Speaker 2>that the show is fucking funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I also love in this episode that Olivia

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<v Speaker 2>Pope says, all cylinders people, let's go yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the first time we hear her say that,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it might be.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, listeners, we're dealing with only forty two

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<v Speaker 2>minutes of television. This is the second round of forty

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<v Speaker 2>two minutes, and we're already giving you such hashtaghs. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>such T shirts, Yes, such sayings. I mean all cylinders, people,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go. Who says that?

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<v Speaker 1>And also, speaking of T shirts, Katie and I are

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<v Speaker 1>wearing I think this was our first like merch that

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<v Speaker 1>we got gifted from Shonda and the producers. Right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a long sleeve black, really nice shirt that says

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<v Speaker 1>scandal on the front where like your you know, your

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<v Speaker 1>booby is chest pocket would be where your boob is ye,

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<v Speaker 1>And then on the back it says do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a gladiator in a suit? Right? Or does

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<v Speaker 1>it say I can't stand that? Turn around you you

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<v Speaker 1>turn around? Are we here?

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<v Speaker 2>What was this saying?

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<v Speaker 1>It says, oh, yeah, do you want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>gladiator in a suit? Which is so awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, so this shirt bravo to Geirmo and I because

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<v Speaker 2>this shirt is twelve ten years old or someone and

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<v Speaker 2>we are wearing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, Well, And I was telling Katie I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>dry this shirt because if I dry it, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like, you know, it's it's not gonna go over

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<v Speaker 1>my belly.

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<v Speaker 2>Garmo and I. Over the course of this podcast, we

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of vintage pieces that will be coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>They might be clothing, they might be gifts, they might

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<v Speaker 2>be shit we stole from the Scandal set. They might

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<v Speaker 2>be clothing I stole from the Scandal set. But this

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<v Speaker 2>shirt is so special and I would never wear it

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<v Speaker 2>in public because it is way too fucking tight.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally, totally. You know what's funny. I wore it. I

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<v Speaker 1>had to go to the grocery store to get detergent,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have the shirt on and I was in

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<v Speaker 1>an aisle looking for you know, looking for it which

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<v Speaker 1>one I was gonna pick, And a guy was like

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<v Speaker 1>kept staring at me, and I was like, oh crap,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, I loved you on Scandal and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh god, I'm wearing a Scandal's shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, how how cheesy?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, it's sweet, and everyone listening, so, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I get recognized, but I really look like everyone else,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I really think I'm like a pretty average in

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<v Speaker 2>size and height and in brown hair, brown eyes, like

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<v Speaker 2>you got to really know. I don't Gamo fucking Diaz

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<v Speaker 2>cannot go anywhere, like anywhere, I mean traveling around with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how Mikey does it. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>because you stick out like a sore thumb, like you're

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<v Speaker 2>just so special. You don't look like anyone else. You

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<v Speaker 2>have a vibe about you. You have a look. And

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest treat about that is that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>times when Gamo gets recognized for Scandal, he also gets

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<v Speaker 2>recognized for Half Baked, and people are just passing you weed.

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<v Speaker 1>People want to get me high everywhere I go. We

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<v Speaker 1>were in Israel and people were like, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>get high?

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<v Speaker 2>Everywhere you go, people want to get you high. We

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<v Speaker 2>were at the White House Correspondent dinner and everyone's trying

0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.720
<v Speaker 2>to get you high. Like everyone just wants to say

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<v Speaker 2>to their group of friends, yeah, I got stoned with

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<v Speaker 2>Germo Diaz from Half Baked, or I got stoned with

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<v Speaker 2>Huck or like whatever, You're just.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool, you know. Very early in my career, Katie, I

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<v Speaker 1>learned that you have to be kind to your fans.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't say no, you know, so I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>just you know I have to kindly exist.

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<v Speaker 2>I will give you that memory. I will give you

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<v Speaker 2>that memory. Please, it's not it's okay, it's not too

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<v Speaker 2>much off my back. What else did you love about

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<v Speaker 2>this episode?

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that I loved about about this episode, Katie,

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<v Speaker 1>that stuck out also was the sets. It's the first

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you see the sets of course in the pilot,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was the first time that you see the

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<v Speaker 1>recreated actual set where we shot the pilot at an

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<v Speaker 1>actual location in downtown at La in this old old

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<v Speaker 1>building where those panels that those window panels that we

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<v Speaker 1>have on our show, those cracked, flawed window panels were

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<v Speaker 1>all real. And our amazing you know Scandal team that

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<v Speaker 1>works on the sets at the stages where we shot

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<v Speaker 1>the show recreated that place like perfectly, and it looks

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<v Speaker 1>so freaking good in this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>That is such a great point, And what blessing did

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<v Speaker 2>they give us because the real one downtown, the real

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<v Speaker 2>OPA the hallway was actually insanely long, and when they

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<v Speaker 2>recreated it on the stages, it was like still long,

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<v Speaker 2>but half the length. Because Quinn is constantly walking up

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<v Speaker 2>and down the fucking hallway getting a people of coffee,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't think you had to deal with this.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hate wearing high heels, and my feet are

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<v Speaker 2>an issue at all times.

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<v Speaker 1>And those pencil skirts that kept like twisting on you.

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<v Speaker 2>You remember, am I spanks. Every time I took a step,

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<v Speaker 2>my pencil skirt would just like rotate. I spent eighty

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<v Speaker 2>hours a week complaining about my feet, which Kerry Washington

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<v Speaker 2>never did. And she's wearing like literally six inch every

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<v Speaker 2>single high end fashionable shoe. And I think I was

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<v Speaker 2>in Jessica Simpson like low priced shoe because I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when we did fittings, I would say like Quinn doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have what Olivia Pope has, like I shouldn't be in

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<v Speaker 2>Prada and all this shit. Yeah, but anyway, they they

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<v Speaker 2>made the hallway half the length when they recreated it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember being like, oh, thank you God, because

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<v Speaker 2>this will just log me like less steps where my

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<v Speaker 2>feet and my pencil skirt are just just ridiculous, like

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<v Speaker 2>my feet were hurting so badly.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you also remember, Katie, the window panels that I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned a little bit ago, where we would have to

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<v Speaker 1>put up people's photos. I think you know this, Katie.

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<v Speaker 1>But when we wrapped the series. I asked Mary Howard,

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<v Speaker 1>who was one of our producers. I asked her, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>is there any way I can get one of those

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<v Speaker 1>window panels? And they sent me. They delivered one to

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<v Speaker 1>my house and it's with the iron around it, Katie.

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<v Speaker 1>It weighs like a tongue. You didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Nowhere is it in your house?

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<v Speaker 1>It's in that right at the entrance of the house,

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<v Speaker 1>like on the wall right there. It's like one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite things that I have in my house. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, thank god I asked for this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seemingly jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>They literally took one of those things and delivered it

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<v Speaker 1>to my house.

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<v Speaker 2>Giermo, that makes me like sleep better at night knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that you have one of the window panes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And our OPA conference table desk is the main

0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.920
<v Speaker 2>conference room table at Shondolin Offices in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh way, I didn't know that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was there once before COVID and I walked past

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<v Speaker 2>the big conference room and it's the OPA conference table

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<v Speaker 2>that you and I boned on, Yes, where.

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<v Speaker 1>We would hide all our sides on the chairs and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'd scooched them into the table and we boned

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<v Speaker 1>on that table. We sure did. We'll be right back, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Quinn has one job. You all are working on

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<v Speaker 2>the Madam case. You're all trying to have her not

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<v Speaker 2>give up her list to David Rosen of all the

0:18:55.280 --> 0:19:00.400
<v Speaker 2>people in DC horse sleeping with prostitutes. I simultaneously, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing this b story where I'm never supposed to let

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<v Speaker 2>Amanda Tanner out of my site because we know that

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<v Speaker 2>Gideon Wallace, who's a reporter from the Sun, has been

0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.680
<v Speaker 2>sniffing around and Olivia Pope doesn't want that getting out.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just supposed to be watching this girl. And

0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Quinn's like, I don't want to watch this girl. And

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<v Speaker 2>then Olivia is like, don't let her out of your site,

0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:20.000
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, right, don't let her out of your site,

0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:21.919
<v Speaker 2>don't let her side, don't let her side, don't let

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<v Speaker 2>her out of my site.

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<v Speaker 1>She's gone. How the hell did she get out there

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<v Speaker 1>that quickly?

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<v Speaker 2>And also is that allowed? Don't you have to be discharged? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>It's fine? Yeah, And then I go to your office

0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:38.240
<v Speaker 2>and I say, I'm gonna barf. How do I find

0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:42.199
<v Speaker 2>something that's gone missing? And You're like, go check her house,

0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:43.760
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, oh, check.

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<v Speaker 1>Her house, check her house. Oh, like yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's already you know what's so lovely? Also going back,

0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.840
<v Speaker 2>it's already like I can see what the writers were

0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:55.320
<v Speaker 2>seeing about Huck taking Quinn under his wing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 2>You can already see. Like I always go to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Abby is just like so meanto Quinn. It's insane and

0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.640
<v Speaker 2>great and lovely and I love it and like Harrison

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<v Speaker 2>just doesn't have time because he's just like mister man

0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.480
<v Speaker 2>about town and you're really the only person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the left that we'll talk to her.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Katie.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that we used to talk while we

0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:21.760
<v Speaker 1>were filming the show, like how do the writers know?

0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.600
<v Speaker 1>And how does Seanda know our relationships? Because you and

0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I started to get really close and then we'd be like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>are there microphones like in our trailers? Like on and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'd see it in the scripts reflected in the scripts, right,

0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:33.680
<v Speaker 1>we were.

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<v Speaker 2>Like always we would be like, no, they have got

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<v Speaker 2>to have bugged the makeup. So on sets, makeup trailers

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<v Speaker 2>is where a lot of shit talking gets done, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's mostly because you're there at five o'clock in the morning.

0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:49.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, your makeup and hair people are the ones

0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.679
<v Speaker 2>that are closest to your face at all times, like

0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:55.400
<v Speaker 2>when you're on your period, when you've had a rough night,

0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:57.679
<v Speaker 2>when you're like so, the makeup trailer just sort of

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<v Speaker 2>becomes this place, and I always like, this shit has

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<v Speaker 2>got to be because we would talk about we would

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<v Speaker 2>like have relationships forming and like trust things happening, and

0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:08.760
<v Speaker 2>then we would see them one hundred percent reflected in

0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:09.880
<v Speaker 2>scripts down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Also what we would do in the trailer I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to say was we were really studious and we

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:16.720
<v Speaker 2>would drill lines.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we had to write. We had to because we

0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:22.280
<v Speaker 1>had to. We had to scandal pace our dialogue, which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if people know we should say that

0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.439
<v Speaker 1>it first started because the scripts were so long, right,

0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.359
<v Speaker 1>and there were so many words that I think it

0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:32.399
<v Speaker 1>was Shonda that said, you guys have to talk fast

0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to get all this stuff out, and that's I think

0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:38.119
<v Speaker 1>where it started. But then we all I think discovered

0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:41.480
<v Speaker 1>little by little that the faster you you speak, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the intention and the we're still acting under

0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the fast pace. But every time it made that scene better,

0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:52.840
<v Speaker 1>every single time, even beyond Scandal. Sometimes I'm on sets,

0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:54.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, y'all gotta speed that shit up.

0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:56.360
<v Speaker 2>And not only did we have to have scandal pace,

0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:57.920
<v Speaker 2>but we had to be word perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>This wasn't a show that you were like, hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>know in throwing an improv like that didn't happen on Scandal, which.

0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.840
<v Speaker 2>By the way, Germo Diaz brilliant improv actor from Dave

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<v Speaker 2>Chappelle show.

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<v Speaker 1>God No, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we had to drill lines.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, when I watched these episodes back, the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of material Kerrie Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Had, oh my god. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Most hour long scripts, I want to say, are like

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<v Speaker 2>fifty to sixty pages. Some of our scripts were eighty

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<v Speaker 2>nine fucking pages.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really long.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy to think that that would fit in forty two

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<v Speaker 2>minutes and shoot in nine days.

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<v Speaker 1>We would cut up and have fun and laugh and

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<v Speaker 1>do all that stuff on set, but most of the

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<v Speaker 1>time I feel like we'd be like, let's run lines,

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<v Speaker 1>let's run lines. It was NonStop that we were like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>let's run that scene, Let's run lines, because we just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get it right. We couldn't. There was no

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<v Speaker 1>room for, you know, to.

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<v Speaker 2>Mess up, and we were like that on each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I felt like we were all not goody

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<v Speaker 2>two shoes, but we all really believed in the show

0:22:57.720 --> 0:22:59.760
<v Speaker 2>and wanted to do a good job, and so everyone

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<v Speaker 2>did didn't want to be the person in the scene

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<v Speaker 2>to fuck it up, because a lot of the OPA

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 2>scenes are like those theater scenes where you're in an

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<v Speaker 2>ensemble you're holding like tossing a volleyball up between all

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<v Speaker 2>of your lines, and if you're the dick that sucks

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<v Speaker 2>up the take because you go up and you forget

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<v Speaker 2>the line, it just made the take not usable for

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else, And like, no one wanted to be that person.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was like we were all, can we run them?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we run him?

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<v Speaker 1>Come we run?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't want to be the one that like

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<v Speaker 2>drops the ball. We have that whole monologue where Olivia

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<v Speaker 2>and I dropped my jaw down to the ground, which

0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:37.720
<v Speaker 2>I feel like is really a poor acting choice on

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<v Speaker 2>my head. And Olivia says, slip your number in the door.

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<v Speaker 2>She's gonna call you, and it is your job to

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<v Speaker 2>get her to be our client. And I'm like, oh shit,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I put the number down and she does call.

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Because Olivia is a genius and she knows what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen, and so Amana Tanner and I meet, I

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<v Speaker 2>think on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, and we

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<v Speaker 2>get a glimpse into Quinn's past, which is Lindsay Dwyer

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<v Speaker 2>and I say, Quinn says something like I was in

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<v Speaker 2>trouble once. A lot of people wanted to I was

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 2>in trouble. I was alone and it was awful. Now

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<v Speaker 2>you think we're getting a glimpse into Quinn Perkin's past,

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:12.119
<v Speaker 2>But at that point, the writer's room did not know

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<v Speaker 2>what Quinn's past was.

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<v Speaker 1>I always forget that they did it right. Nobody knew

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<v Speaker 1>where that was gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't know. Oh my god, they didn't know. So

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<v Speaker 2>what I think is interesting is that things were already

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<v Speaker 2>being built. But I also sometimes wonder if I had

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<v Speaker 2>played it differently, Like I played it as true, like

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Quinn does have this thing, this like secret, But I

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:42.919
<v Speaker 2>could have played it as like I'm tricking her, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm making.

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<v Speaker 1>It up right just to get it to be a client.

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because Olivia told me to. And I always am like, wow,

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:50.720
<v Speaker 2>had I been playing that with things have been different?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey? Speaking of that scene, at the Lincoln Memorial. We

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<v Speaker 1>should talk about how that we shot this show in CA, California,

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<v Speaker 1>in LA at some stages, at sunte Gower stages. But

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<v Speaker 1>the CGI, what is it called the green screen? What

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 1>is it considered CGI? The you know the backgrounds. I

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<v Speaker 1>think so because when you see when you see the

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<v Speaker 1>Lincoln Memorial and other you know, historical sites in DC,

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 1>like that's all green screen. And and the team that

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<v Speaker 1>did that were so freaking talented too, because I remember

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:26.160
<v Speaker 1>remember people would come up to us all the time

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<v Speaker 1>and be like, you guys shoot the show in DC.

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 2>People still think that now, yeah.

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:31.879
<v Speaker 1>And we'd be like, no, it's green screen. They'd be

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>like what, because it's good. It's really it was really

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<v Speaker 1>really good, Like they did an amazing job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We would always be outside in parks all over

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 2>LA and then they would have this like massive green

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<v Speaker 2>screen that they would then superimpose like you're saying the

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<v Speaker 2>Jeffremanson Memorial, Ling Memorial, whatever the mall. Yeah, and we

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:55.399
<v Speaker 2>would be dressed in coats, sweating balls.

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<v Speaker 1>In California where it never gets cold except for today.

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<v Speaker 2>And Lynn Pallow we're gonna have her on too. She's

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing costume designer Lynn Pallow she I think just

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:06.959
<v Speaker 2>set the world. I don't know if that was her

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 2>choice or Shawna's choice that it was just a forever fall.

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I think it's just like forever fall, which means we're

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 2>just always in pea coats, a scarf. Olivia's obviously like

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:18.359
<v Speaker 2>in the most incredible gloves you've ever seen in your

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 2>entire life that go up to her elbow. But most

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times we would be in like one

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 2>hundred and ten degrees in a wool code.

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<v Speaker 1>You having to act.

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<v Speaker 2>Des I mean the chafing that was going on in

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<v Speaker 2>my pencil skirts. I deserve all the acting awards people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was in freaking flannels, remember flannels, and then

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>a leather jacket on top of that and boots.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, later on down the road, it used to be

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 2>like a war of like Lynn would be like, well,

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.440
<v Speaker 2>we can't, we need to have different flannels on quinn Hockah.

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:51.119
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. We started dressing. They started dressing

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>us very much alike. You were in freaking black leather

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 1>boots and leather jackets and flannels and yeah you love

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<v Speaker 1>that though, right, Oh I can't. Yeah, it was so sexy.

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 2>We'll get there. That's how the should I took.

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we'll get there. I did too.

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, How Sharon Marquette gets off is Olivia staring at

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 2>the board, which, by the way, that's what we call

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 2>that glass wall that we put up the cases and

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 2>all the people's pictures. We called it like who's at

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 2>the board? So Olivia's staring at the at the board,

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 2>and she has this brilliant idea. Let's call all these douchebags.

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Let's call all these dudes to the table and say like, look, guys,

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 2>this is all going to come out and your life

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 2>is screwed. Unless we all pool together our.

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Resources, we're all trifling.

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Bill Withers comes on, call me, mister pitiful. Best song ever.

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I love the soundtrack of this entire show, especially this episode.

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 2>And Harrison goes around and he's like, hey Wooden Floors,

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Hey you, hey, Sonny Coat whatever.

0:27:55.200 --> 0:28:00.360
<v Speaker 1>That music montage scene is the best. And Harrison Man

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>is the dude like, I'm like in love with him.

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 1>He's so good. Love Columbus Short is so freaking cool

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>and good and sexy and.

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Sexy, and and he's flipping his phone and he's walking

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 2>the walk and he's solving the cases and he's out

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 2>there and they're playing fucking awesome music and he just

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>makes it look effortless.

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh so so good, so good Columbus.

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So they all come in and they get Sharon

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Marquette off, praise be we cut two fits wasted in

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.199
<v Speaker 2>the Oval, and he's on the seal and he's in

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:36.159
<v Speaker 2>a scene with Cyrus and he tells Cyrus like, I

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 2>love Olivia Pope. We're not talking about this tomorrow, but

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm in love with Olivia Pope.

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's whipped. He got whipped.

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 2>He's so whipped. And at those in those beginning times,

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 2>like especially episode two, this early on in the in

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 2>the series, I just feel like it was such separate shows.

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Like we never went over there. They never came over

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 2>to us. We only saw them at table reads.

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:05.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah there, remember, I mean moving forward, you know, closer

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>to other seasons, we'd have our characters eventually sometimes go

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>to the White House. But it was such a big

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 1>deal for us, right we'd be like, oh my god,

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be at the White House. I can't believe

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm acting with Bellamy or with Jeffer Tony. Yeah, because

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 1>we never we never you know, encountered them. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>it was two separate worlds, completely, two separate worlds, and

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>ours and ours was better, Oh like way better, way

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>more anyway, I'm just saying yeah and cuter.

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 2>I think before we were really going over there, and

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 2>maybe even before we really started to have storylines intermingle,

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Tony came over and and we would he directed an

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 2>episode or two, and he'd always like hate love directing

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 2>OPA because he would be like, what the fuck is

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 2>He'd be.

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Like, you guys, you gotta focus.

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Stop singing, stop dancing, Like Columbus Short is the best

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 2>dancer ever. He like choreographed Britney spears like a world

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 2>tour she had like a million years ago. Like he's

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 2>an amazing mover. And if like it's even you can

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 2>even see it in this episode when he like anytime

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 2>he solves the case, the way he walks, the way

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 2>he handles his props, his phones, it's like fucking cool.

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 2>And I just think when Tony came over he was

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 2>in shock at like not that we're unprofessional, we're just better.

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>But I remember that he was like I felt like

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>he was like a substitute teacher who was like you know,

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and the kids were just out of control, like you

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 1>could not get us to stop talking. But you were

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>the best, Katie. You were. I remember you. We'd be

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 1>like blah lah lah talking and then they'd be like, okay, rolling,

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>but you still be talking about la la la lah

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and they'd be like close to act. You'd be like, Olivia,

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I need to go to the You were so good

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>at going from like you know what I mean, from

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>reality to like Quinn, you were so good at it.

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm so honored you were so so good at it.

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we talked about the Lincoln memorial part and

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 2>then the end of the episode is that Gideon walks

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 2>in and Amanda Tanner is there and she's now become

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 2>our client and and she's like, you don't have a story,

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, well, I wasn't sure, but now that

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I've just walked in here and Amanda Tanner is here

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 2>and you're here, now I do.

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>What a freaking turd? Right? I was like, you're a

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>little turd. Like he's so annoying in this episode.

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Ugh.

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you little bitch, Like what is wrong? Oh?

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Who's this? Is that your best friend. Is she just

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>try to kill herself? Oh wow or whatever? The hell? Oh?

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 2>When he walks in and he's saying to Quinn like,

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, yeah, Well, you know what's funny. When I

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 2>first met Gideon, who's.

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>An amazing actor, He's doing this is what he needed.

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 2>He's an amazing actor. And by the way, do you

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 2>know who he's married to. Gideon Wallace, who is played

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 2>by Brendan Hines. Yes, during the pandemic, married Tatiana Maslani,

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 2>who play who's the lead in Orphan Black. She won

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 2>the Emmy for Orphan Black.

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you know, I swear I was going to say

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the Russian ice skater. I'm not even kidding Oksana Bayoul

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, ok Sana, I was like, that motherfucker

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>married the Russian ice skater. I'm so dumb. Wait, he

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>married a Russia skater.

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 2>No, Gideon did not marry Axana by you. That's the

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 2>stupidest thing. Oh God, I hope this podcast comes out

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 2>and we just start that rumors about you. I hope

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 2>she's okay.

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>She's okay, she's okay, but wait, he married this lovely woman.

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 2>He married Tatiana Masslani. No, she's like literally one of

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 2>the greatest actresses of our time.

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I know exactly who that.

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Is outstanding, and they're both Canadian, and I think there's

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 2>like living this phenomenal life. Wow, blessed Gideon, like bless

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean bless Brendon Hines and blessed.

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>By That is a wrap on. I'm kidding.

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 2>We will be back with more after the.

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<v Speaker 1>Break, Benitos, I'll unpacking the toolbox.

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Wait, how do you say unpacking the toolbox in Spanish?

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't freaking know.

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 2>That's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know something like that. Yeah, welcome back, Welcome back, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember coming to the Prospect offices to read episode

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<v Speaker 2>two when we had heard we were picked up, and

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Sean is sitting down next to me and being like,

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be your love interest, like right there,

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<v Speaker 2>Brendon Hines, and I remember being like, huh, oh my god.

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 2>It's not that he's so handsome and like a great actor.

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I just was like not ready to like have a

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 2>love interest. I wasn't like comfortable yet. I felt like,

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 2>oh god, fuck, that's what Quinn's going to be doing.

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I think your first one of your first thoughts,

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 1>which was for all of us, because when I first

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 1>found out that Huck was going to have a love interest,

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, am I going to have to have my

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>shirt off? Do I have to stop eating? Do I

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>need to work out? What the fuck are they gonna

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>have a shirt? Because it's scandal, so you knew they

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>were gonna end up screwing race.

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 2>So ten PM show people, Yes, fucking was on the table.

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:12.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean not cable, not cable sex.

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Not cable sex, but yeah, ten pm sex.

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Which is more than Grays at nine pm. And we

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 2>had all seen Grays. We knew we were gonna be

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 2>pushing the envelope little more than that. Yes, So it

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 2>wasn't that it was like, oh no, Brendan Hines. It

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>was more like, oh no, wait, shit, I'm gonna have

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:29.800
<v Speaker 2>a love interest. I'm gonna have to to be doing

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 2>stuff like I didn't have a lot of experience with that.

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, Gideon Wallace the turd, Yes.

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>He's turtish in the episode in that he just is

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 2>like trying to uncover the case and it might be annoying.

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. And also a little piece of information about

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Brendan Hines is that he did lock and Key with

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Darby he's in that show with Darby.

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Well get on board because Brendan Hines and

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 2>Gideon Wallace are a big part of season one.

0:34:58.600 --> 0:34:59.799
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot going on.

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.280
<v Speaker 2>We are going to be talking a lot about Brendan

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Hines and Xana Bayule and the rest of the season.

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:10.840
<v Speaker 2>But the scandal Rewatch podcast Unpacking the Toolbox. Yes, fun

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:14.439
<v Speaker 2>facts about the episode. This is funny. We talked about

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 2>the Stevie wonder of it all and the songs, which

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel like are perfect. The episode was referenced in Jeopardy.

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:25.839
<v Speaker 1>That's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, and this I love.

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:28.240
<v Speaker 2>There is a small continuity error people.

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, some of those Twitter fans are going to

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:34.839
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, I know that, My god.

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 2>The continuity error is Patrick Keating is the President's first

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:43.879
<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court justice nominee during his presidency. But in season two,

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 2>episode eight, Happy Birthday as a President, we learned that

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 2>it's part of the Defiance conspiracy deal. Verna Thornton was

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:52.240
<v Speaker 2>to receive a seat on the Supreme Court, being fits

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:55.839
<v Speaker 2>his first Supreme Court justice nominee in his term. We

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.919
<v Speaker 2>need to get someone on this show because I think

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 2>most writers' room have not a dramater, but like a researcher,

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 2>isn't there someone in the room whose job it is

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 2>is to keep all this shit straight?

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>But at some point that stuff has to kind of

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>go out the window, and there's got to be creative

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:14.800
<v Speaker 1>like light what is it called creative license or whatever

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 1>it's called, to just be like you know what, Like, yeah,

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>that was that, But listen, there's five hundred freaking episodes

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 1>like give us a break. Listen. I'm a huge Golden

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Girls fan, and in some episodes, Blanche has, you know,

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>one daughter and then the other one. She's got two daughters,

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and one of them is named this and that. The

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>names change and I'm like, who cares. It's a great show,

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean?

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Is that true?

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, stuff is continuity. Stuff is all screwed up

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>on that show.

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 2>And I think I'm on great shows.

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 2>For example, my first screen test was for Guiding Light,

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 2>which is like one or I don't think it's not anymore,

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 2>but it was like the longest running soap opera, and

0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:01.320
<v Speaker 2>I was coming on to test to just be someone

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 2>else who already existed in that role. Like that's how

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:05.359
<v Speaker 2>much people don't give a shit?

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:07.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's where it started. You're right.

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 2>They were like, you're auditioning to play like like Abby,

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 2>like if I was going in, and just like, you're

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 2>just replacing Abby. She played the role for twenty years

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 2>and now she wants to retire or we can't make

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 2>ends meet in her contract or whatever, so will you

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 2>just come on and be this person? And you're like, yeah,

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 2>wait what, like no one's care.

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the audience somehow accepts it, right, Like they

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:32.240
<v Speaker 1>don't make a big deal about it, and people just

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:34.320
<v Speaker 1>just accept it because it's you know, the show is

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>still really great. Guiding Life was an amazing show. Oh no,

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm kidding, you know what.

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get that part. And guess who did? This

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:46.319
<v Speaker 2>amazing actress named Melli Melissa Fumero who was one of

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:48.839
<v Speaker 2>the lead girls on Brooklyn nine to nine. Oh way,

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 2>and right now she's on that show Blockbuster.

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, and.

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 2>She's a wonderful working actress. And we went to NYU

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 2>together and at the time I was so bummed. I

0:37:56.960 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 2>was like, I can't believe she's replacing Aubrey or whatever.

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 2>The character's name was a Guiding Light, and she like

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 2>right out of the gate, got like a four year

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 2>contract on a soap opera and like made money.

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 2>I used to tell myself like, oh, whatever, you don't

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 2>want to be pigeonholed into being a soap opera actor

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 2>because then that's all you'll ever be. Well, guys, that's

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 2>not true because Melissa Favo's doing great.

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>But at the time that's like, it means so much.

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Writing you're like, oh god, this would have meant the world.

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 1>But look at you now, look at you now play

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Quinn on Scandal.

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Oh my god. I just heard back from

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 2>the Queen herself, Shonda Rhymes, and I wrote, again, why

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 2>was Carolyn Olivia Pope's middle name? No presh doing the

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 2>podcast now three heart emojis? Oh no? And then I added,

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.840
<v Speaker 2>is that your middle name or something? That's what I remember.

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 2>I remember being on set and someone saying that this

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 2>is Shonda's middle name. I am like, literally, I'm making

0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 2>shit up that none of that is true. None of

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 2>it is She wrote back, Nope, it just came out

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:05.760
<v Speaker 2>of my head one day in writing the show. Wow,

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:08.760
<v Speaker 2>you heard it here first, folks.

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Also, just so everyone knows, I do not have Shonda

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Rhime's phone number.

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Go on, Katie, go on, continue, I'm gonna give it

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 2>to you.

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Please don't, please don't. I don't want to send her

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 1>something by mistake and be like, oh my.

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 2>God, no. But I'm going to bring it to all

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 2>of you, all of you listeners. I am going to

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 2>bring you the good stuff. I will reserve it and

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 2>not text her anymore unless it's unless it's deefcon for

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:39.359
<v Speaker 2>all cylinders people, let's go. But no, out of her

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 2>brilliant head, Olivia Carolyn Pope, can we just sing the

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:48.360
<v Speaker 2>song we used to sing yes whenever Olivia Pope Opa

0:39:48.560 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 2>was handling a case. Pope, Pope, Pope it out, uh.

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Poo, that's Folksana bayou. Oh y'all, Brendan Haines, congratulations, May

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>your love last forever.

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 2>But before we go, like real quick, we gotta read

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 2>some tweets at the time. You all know, all you

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 2>super fans, all you og gladiators that are listening, you

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 2>know that Twitter was the backbone and party. Every single

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Thursday night, ten pm East Coast time, Mountain time, Pacific time,

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 2>whatever fucking time. Twitter was going off and G and

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought it would be really funny if we could

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 2>go back and find any tweets because it's such a

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 2>time capsule. Yeah, we have uh three here that I

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 2>they're not that great, but they're gonna get great.

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna get great.

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these tweets at the time are okay, But I

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 2>know this, this segment will pay off in later episodes.

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>This is just the begin This is when people are

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 1>just starting to get their like Twitter feet wet so

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 1>all the way.

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 2>In April twelfth of twenty twelve, Miss Cassia, who is

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 2>at sivon Black quotes I'm a gladiator in a suit.

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was her, but on Twitter

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:20.399
<v Speaker 2>and some fan on Twitter hashtagged the first gladiator as

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 2>being like that's the name of fans who watch Scandal,

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 2>which stuck and still sticks to this day. Like I

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:28.840
<v Speaker 2>have people come up to me and they're like, no, no,

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 2>you don't get it, like I'm a gladiator, Like I'm

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:32.800
<v Speaker 2>a gladiator, and I'm like, I believe you. I believe you.

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 2>They're like, no, I'm like an og gladiator, like from

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:36.880
<v Speaker 2>the beginning, from day one, I'm like, I believe you're

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 2>a gladiator.

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I need to get my groceries. I believe you're a gladiator.

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 2>And then from that we change it to like Gladiator

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:50.320
<v Speaker 2>in pajamas, Gladiator in whatever, Gladiator in doctor clothes, gladiat

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 2>like people would change it for whatever they needed.

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Bonnie Smith at Bonbon Fabu on April twelfth of twenty

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.800
<v Speaker 2>twelve wrote, Thursday Night Primetime is the place to watch strong,

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 2>intelligent women kicking ass and taking.

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Names Freedom Major Paine forty four. She retweeted Scandal, ABC.

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you think Amanda Tanner is telling the truth about

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:16.880
<v Speaker 1>her affair with the president hashtag scandal? The President is

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 1>a liar. He's a liah. That's what she wrote.

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 2>The President is a liar.

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 1>He is a freaking liar. Like what it's in this episode.

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>There's so many references to to you know, the Monica

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Lewinsky built Clinton scandal as well. And Cyrus has a

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 1>line to the President in this episode dirty Little Secrets,

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and he says, don't don't Clinton talk to me or

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>something like that, And I thought I caught that yesterday

0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 1>when I was rewatching it. I've watched this episode like

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>twelve times, but I was like, oh, that's such a

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 1>great line.

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 2>These tweets will get crazier and crazier.

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:52.719
<v Speaker 1>They have to they have to be like the nastiest,

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:55.320
<v Speaker 1>like crazy tweets ever.

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Right, I spent a whole night on Twitter in one

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 2>of the episodes talking about my ass, and I went

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 2>to work and I told Oliver Bockelberg, our amazing DP.

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 2>We were doing some episode where there was a mansion

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 2>and they did a wide angle shot to show this

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 2>is what I tell myself. Did a wide angle shot

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 2>to show the mansion and the back of Quinn is

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 2>what walked us into the shot. And this was insane

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 2>what was shown on national television. And I spent the

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 2>entire episode just reading tweets about my butt. No yeah,

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 2>and like ninety eight percent of them were complimentary. And

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll take it, honey, I will take it. We got

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.880
<v Speaker 2>to find But look, we're just getting started on the

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Scandal rewatch podcast Unpacking the Toolbox. This is we're just

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 2>starting the unpacking of the toolbox. So like things are

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:54.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna get crazy. The series keeps getting more insane, intense, wild,

0:43:55.239 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 2>so will this podcast. Yes, we're gonna about different shirts.

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Yep or no shirts for some of the podcasts.

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm down. I love early og Scandal though, like I

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 2>just am both psyched to be on this ride with

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 2>everybody listening and with you Gearmo. I love you so much.

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 2>But I'm so happy to be watching these early episodes.

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 2>They have such a fucking place in my heart.

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're literally reliving this experience right like. It's pretty

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 1>We're pretty lucky. This is awesome. I'm super excited. And again,

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 1>this is just the beginning, y'all. This is just episode

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 1>two of Unpacking the Toolbox.

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 2>And next week come back listen to us talk about

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:39.360
<v Speaker 2>season one episode three.

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, y'all, please come back. The episode is called hell

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Hath No Fury And if you want to hear me

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:50.879
<v Speaker 1>and Katie like a tug shit and cut up and

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>crack up where we're crying, come back and listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the next episode.

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