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Speaker 1: Scrible advice. It's time Welcome to the Naughty Night Show.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rob Shooter, and it's Thursday, which means

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Speaker 1: our dear friend Mark Looper joins us, Hey, Lupy, are

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Speaker 1: you there is here? Lupy Lou. We've got so much

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Speaker 1: gossip to get to. It's been a really busy week

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Speaker 1: of gossip with books and drama, and it's it's a

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Speaker 1: good time to be in this business. Mark, we have

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Speaker 1: great stories. Were stories again, let's jump in. Okay, what

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Speaker 1: time is it? My friends? It is tea time? Who said?

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Speaker 1: Kelly Ripper has a surprising reaction to Kathy Lee Gifford

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Speaker 1: sort of dissing her book. We've spoken about this on

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Speaker 1: the show. Kathie Lee Gifford told our friend Rosanna Scotto

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Speaker 1: one Good Day, New York, Hello, Rosanna Lower Lower Lower,

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Speaker 1: that she would not be reading Kelly Ripper's book. Now,

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Speaker 1: Kelly has been asked about that, which could be perceived

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Speaker 1: as a dice. I guess it is. Kelly said the

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Speaker 1: following quote. I am a person that tends to take

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Speaker 1: a negative and turn it into a positive. She went

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Speaker 1: on to say, basically, she has one word response to

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Speaker 1: Kathy Lee Gifford. Thank you. She said, it's really hard

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Speaker 1: to sell a book and suddenly getting all these headlines

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Speaker 1: out of nowhere, and let's be honest, there was headlines.

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Speaker 1: It was the lead story on the show. Suddenly Kelly

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Speaker 1: said she's got a pop pop of sales from all

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Speaker 1: this attention, and so she said, ultimately, my comment is

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Speaker 1: thank you. Now, let's remember in the book, Kathie Lee

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Speaker 1: thinks Kelly Ripper trashed her friend Readius. However, if you

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Speaker 1: read the whole book, which I did, do Mark, not

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Speaker 1: just the headlines, she doesn't really trash. And she talks

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Speaker 1: about their working relationships. We all have it, even your

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Speaker 1: best friend in your office, wherever you work. You have

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Speaker 1: your ups and your down and would you be brave

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Speaker 1: enough to tell that side of the story in your book.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I wrote a book about the naughty,

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Speaker 1: but now I should. I think I'd tell it all

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Speaker 1: mark the ups, the downs, but it generally be positive,

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Speaker 1: which I think Kelly was sort of caffee. Lee was

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Speaker 1: having none off of this, will not read the book.

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Speaker 1: Now Kelly is saying, thank you. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Oh god, I think this is like the most epic

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Speaker 1: response of all time. You know, Kelly has a way

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Speaker 1: with words. She's very smart, but so does Cathy Lee.

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Speaker 1: That's why they do what they do. But I do

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Speaker 1: think that Kelly handles in a way that made sense.

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Speaker 1: She got the attention she said, thank you. Cathee Lee

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Speaker 1: probably should have read the book. But she's very sensitive

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Speaker 1: and protective of regions. Anything that anyone would say, I

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Speaker 1: was on Cathelee's last show, Today Show, and they wanted

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Speaker 1: Regius to appear too, and he couldn't. He was in

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Speaker 1: quite a bad shape, but he loved Catheelee so much

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Speaker 1: She's very protective about reaches, so she was the one

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Speaker 1: So he looked okay, but you can tell he was struggling.

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Speaker 1: But the point of the story is I watched her

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Speaker 1: really protect him. She will not she will not let

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Speaker 1: anybody say anything. You can be like that over certain

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Speaker 1: people in your life minds Bruce, like, you can come

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Speaker 1: pretty good at just saying thank you, like Kelly and

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Speaker 1: walking away. Now, if you come after Bruce, I'm like

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Speaker 1: a crazy person. Mark, I'm like a while, I get

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Speaker 1: really nasty. Who in your life are you the most

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Speaker 1: protective of I would say at this particular point, my brother,

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Speaker 1: a He's got one with you. Now, if somebody said

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Speaker 1: Like when you tell people that we do this show together,

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Speaker 1: We've done it together now for a long time. Everybody

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Speaker 1: knows that we do this together. I'm sure people are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: what is it like working with Rob Shooter. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: That's why here I feel for Kelly, because even the

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Speaker 1: We have. And Kelly in the book was not trashing regions.

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Speaker 1: Kelly Ripper thanked Kathie Lee Gifford was saying that she

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Speaker 1: won't read her book. Is this the right response? Is

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Speaker 1: is Kelly being a mean girl? Hey, goot on Twitter

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Speaker 1: page at naughty nice rob at Facebook page is naughty

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Speaker 1: gossip And to check back tomorrow to hear your results.

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Speaker 1: Hay LOEPI what you're working on? I have a story

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Speaker 1: You're going to absolutely love. Ron So so model Claudia

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Speaker 1: Jordan has responded to Megan Marco's claims as she was

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Speaker 1: treated like a bimbo and objectified during her time on

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Speaker 1: The Deal or No Deal, saying it never happened. The

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Speaker 1: On the show, Claudia wrote, quote now Megan for clarity. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: getting a modeling gig on a game show isn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: about your intellect. But every show, the executive producers picked

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Speaker 1: five miles with the most outgoing personalities to place mikes on,

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Speaker 1: who they knew would engage with the contest. Yeah, she said,

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Speaker 1: Deal or No Deal never treated us like bimbos. We've

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Speaker 1: got so many opportunities because of this show, and it's

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Speaker 1: think Megan starting to have a credibility problem. Lots of

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Speaker 1: never start with the perfect job. We all have to compromise.

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Speaker 1: ways because of this show, it gave her opportunities. She

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Speaker 1: and I think my biggest question is like, well, what

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Speaker 1: game show. And truly the show is not about the miles.

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Speaker 1: and be, you know, in the background. Megan, we're not

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Speaker 1: or maybe you didn't Megan. Maybe you're embarrassed that you

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Speaker 1: grateful for it. So Wendy Williams, her friend Mark has

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Speaker 1: many many projects. I hope this is true. Wendy is

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Speaker 1: out to our friend Rosanna Scotto shars a fabulous restaurant

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Speaker 1: But shall help her and she'll give her advice. I

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Speaker 1: sure about the podcasting. Should be a fabulous podcast host,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know if she's got the discipline to

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Speaker 1: You know I worked for Wendy Williams for many years

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Speaker 1: This has been a really sad a couple of years

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Speaker 1: for her. I think my hope is that she really

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Speaker 1: fourty years, you've had such a successful career, Just take

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