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Speaker 1: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison.

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Speaker 3: All Right, Cowboys Nation, welcome into Girls Talk Boys Talk,

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Speaker 3: presented by Invisi Line. I'm Nicole Hutchinson alongside Christy Scales

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Speaker 3: in jazz Moe.

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Speaker 4: Ladies, how y'all doing?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 4: It's a lovely Wednesday?

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, did you see that they're putting up the

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Speaker 6: Christmas tree on the plaza?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 4: You ready?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 9: It's a couple week process to get ready and later

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Speaker 9: in the month and is when the Christmas Spectacular takes

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Speaker 9: place Toastedo Plaza Friday and Saturday nights here at the

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Speaker 9: Star in Frisco, starring the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders and Rhythm

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Speaker 9: in Blue, and an appearance spot.

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Speaker 8: You feel ready?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we don't hear all about it coming out of

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Speaker 5: the first.

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Speaker 4: Right, No, I feel like I asked you all y'all was

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Speaker 4: ready for Christmas? Last week. Are you all ready for Christmas?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean I'm not, but I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 6: Like this move was hectic for me, and so just

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Speaker 6: like when it comes to the holidays, I'm just trying

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Speaker 6: to give myself grace because I feel like I'm still

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Speaker 6: catching up.

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Speaker 3: So okay, we know this team also wants to feel

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Speaker 3: like you know race as well. Yes, yes, but we're

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Speaker 3: gonna go through the injury report in a little bit

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Speaker 3: once we get it over. Usually it comes around four o'clock,

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Speaker 3: but haven't received it just yet, so we'll put that

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Speaker 3: on pause for now. But the Cowboys Eagles they kick

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Speaker 3: off on three TWI this Sunday. When you talk about

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Speaker 3: this matchup, I mean this is a team the Eagles specifically,

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Speaker 3: who is like I mentioned off cameras, I feel like

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Speaker 3: they're hitting their theirs as far as winning games. They

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Speaker 3: won their last four since the bye week. They do

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Speaker 3: have a couple of key players banged up as well,

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Speaker 3: just like the Cowboys. But specifically overall, what's y'all's thoughts

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Speaker 3: going into this game? Do you feel like the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: or how you guys are feeling about the Cowboys handling

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Speaker 3: this team?

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Speaker 6: I think what's interesting about the Eagles right now is

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Speaker 6: whether or not you consider them to be hitting their

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Speaker 6: stride depends on who you talk to. Even among the

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Speaker 6: Eagles fan base, there are some people who would agree

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Speaker 6: with you that they're hitting their stride. There are some

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Speaker 6: people who would point out what Christy pointed out before

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Speaker 6: we got started, that you know, they haven't really been

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Speaker 8: So yeah, it just depends on who you talk to.

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Speaker 6: Personally, I do, based on their trajectory, I do feel

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Speaker 6: They did the same thing last year. It was a

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Speaker 6: And now they've got an absolute monster in Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think that the way that they are

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Speaker 9: they do rely on their run game, second best in

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Speaker 9: And I think the angst that you refer to with

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Speaker 9: that's tough media base up there, tough fan base, but

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Speaker 9: that these some of these games shouldn't be that close.

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Speaker 5: I think that's part of the angst.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this thing about go ahead, I was gonna say,

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Speaker 3: That, And what I was gonna touch on was this

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Speaker 3: could be an advantage for the Cowboys because this is

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Speaker 4: So this could be an interesting matchup there.

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Speaker 3: But when you talk about Kellen Moore, who spent some

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Speaker 9: Playing to the strength when you got Saquon Barkley. Amazing

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Speaker 9: how you can rejuvenate a career when you play behind

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Speaker 9: a good offensive line. Because the Giants, that has been

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Speaker 9: so yeah, I know you're going to hit the numbers,

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Speaker 5: That, very impressive.

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Speaker 9: But I think with Kellen Moore, you don't have to

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Speaker 9: they're able to control the game with the run. And

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Speaker 9: sustain those drives, and that's what they've been doing.

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Speaker 5: In fact, the Eagles.

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Speaker 9: Lead the NFL with the most drives of ten plus plays,

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Speaker 9: so they're keeping their defense rested on the side they're

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Speaker 9: But the fact that with that run game they are

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Speaker 9: incumbent upon the Cowboys offense that when they do get

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, what was the question.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Kellen Moore.

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Speaker 8: Yes, no, my answer is going to be the same thing.

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Speaker 6: I was actually surprised with what he did with the

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Speaker 6: the more I think it might just be having Sekwon

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Speaker 6: him to do his thing than it is necessarily Kellen

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Speaker 8: So there you go.

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Speaker 6: And then also the fact that, well this is actually

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Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts isn't throwing the ball. Well, sometimes he does,

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Speaker 6: but he doesn't have to throw the ball thirty forty

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Speaker 6: he's doing it on reliable plays that are intended to

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Speaker 6: extend the drives, you know. And so yeah, when Kelli

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Speaker 6: two things they go hand in hand. But that's what

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Speaker 6: surprised me about what Kellen Moore is doing over there.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the other thing about relying on the run. When

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Speaker 9: we mentioned aj Brown. The knee injury was last week

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jazz had mentioned all so about Jalen Hurts, and

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Speaker 3: you love what Jalen Hurts does, but as far as

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Speaker 4: He doesn't even do it as much, I would say

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Speaker 3: So years prior, but it still poses a threat as

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Speaker 3: far as what he does do best. How concerning are

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Speaker 3: the different things that Jalen Hurts is able to do.

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Speaker 9: It has to go with lane discipline in your pass

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Speaker 9: rush and things like that, and by the way, with

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Speaker 5: I was shocked, you know, one time.

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Speaker 5: The same game. But yeah, Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 3: This week, pass rush will be crucial. We actually heard

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Speaker 9: Completely confident yet because you're limited on Wednesday. Let's see

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Speaker 8: I like that idea of it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and the thing that I would like to see

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Speaker 3: Mentioned Eagles have the second ranked rushing offense in the

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Speaker 6: that of having a good showing against Eagles.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the numbers that you were reading on the distance

439
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Speaker 9: of the runs, you notice that the numbers got bigger

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Speaker 9: as the game went on.

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Speaker 5: He'll wear and out of them.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So six runs last week of ten plus yards

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Speaker 9: and most of them came a little bit later in

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Speaker 9: the indicative of several things. But one of them is

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Speaker 9: the commitment to the run. And they did get off

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Speaker 9: to a lead. They did get off to a lead

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Speaker 9: against Jacksonville, so they were able to even though they

448
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Speaker 9: nearly surrendered it in the fourth quarter. But you know,

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Speaker 9: say they stick with the run, and when you have

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Speaker 9: those runs of ten plus yards, it wasn't all just

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Speaker 9: him free and clear. It's yards have to contact because

452
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Speaker 9: he is he can be a physical guy. So I

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Speaker 9: think Jats absolutely correct the fundamentals and the tackling, not

454
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Speaker 9: just the wrapping up individually, the correct angles. And what

455
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Speaker 9: did Mike Zimmer say on Monday, there were fifteen missed

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Speaker 9: tackles by the Cowboys defense in the loss at Atlanta,

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Speaker 9: So obviously another that's a point of emphasis this week

458
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Speaker 9: is wrapping up in the tackling, taking the correct angles,

459
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Speaker 9: but swarming to the ball and the teammates and that

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Speaker 9: because just one on one.

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Speaker 5: The other thing is.

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Speaker 9: An issue has been the defensive tackles, keeping the linebackers clean, right,

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Speaker 9: And so if it's going to happen any week, it

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Speaker 9: needs to happen.

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Speaker 6: This week, absolutely, and We saw them work on tackling

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Speaker 6: at practice, and I think they did get a little

467
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Speaker 6: bit better at wrapping up. I feel like a lot

468
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Speaker 6: of the issue now is moving targets, which Saguon Barkley

469
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Speaker 6: definitely is. So I think in addition to worrying about

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Speaker 6: wrapping up, it's like they've they've got to come at

471
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Speaker 6: him with malicious intent, Like you have to be prepared

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Speaker 6: to hit him hard and bring him to the ground

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Speaker 6: because like if you give him just a little bit

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Speaker 6: of leeway, like he's going to take advantage like one

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Speaker 6: h Like in a lot of situations, it's not even

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Speaker 6: one person taking him to the ground. There's a lot

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Speaker 6: of situations where it has to be multiple people from

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Speaker 6: running back. And they're starting to use him in the

479
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Speaker 6: passing game, like he had like, oh.

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Speaker 5: My gosh, what a beautiful catch made. No, it was greaty,

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Speaker 5: it looks like a receiver. It was great adjusted looking

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Speaker 5: at it was great play.

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Speaker 8: But it's like the last thing that you want to

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Speaker 8: see as a team.

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Speaker 6: That's about to face him is like, Okay, the guy

486
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Speaker 6: who feels like he's the biggest offensive threat because of

487
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Speaker 6: what he does is a runner.

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Speaker 4: Oh now he's catching passes too great.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you see what the Cowboys were able to

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Speaker 3: do with Bejon, even though he rushed for I believe

491
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Speaker 3: like eighty something yards last week, it was still somewhat

492
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Speaker 3: of a good job of containing him a little bit.

493
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Speaker 3: But when you do talk about, you know, the defensive

494
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Speaker 3: line having to occupy the Eagles offensive line, of freeing

495
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Speaker 3: up the linebackers and they have to be gap sound,

496
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Speaker 3: does it make you nervous a little bit about a

497
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Speaker 3: guy like Demarvin Overshown who plays so he flies all

498
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Speaker 3: over the field and he plays so aggressively, But when

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Speaker 3: you talk about those mistackles and how sure you have

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Speaker 3: to be, does it kind of make you nervous a

501
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Speaker 3: little bit?

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Speaker 8: Yes, because we've seen him over pursue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And if there's anybody who I feel like could keep

505
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Speaker 6: up with sakuon Barkley, it's Overshown, Right. I've called him

506
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Speaker 6: Lightning personified, but he has fallen victim to the over pursuit,

507
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Speaker 6: especially as of late. I feel like it wasn't as

508
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Speaker 6: bad in the beginning of the season. I'm going off memory,

509
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Speaker 6: not analytics, so I could be wrong, but you know,

510
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Speaker 6: he's had some situations of over pursuing and missing tackles,

511
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Speaker 6: and luckily there have been in some of those situations

512
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Speaker 6: someone to kind of clean up after him. But Sa

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Speaker 6: Kuan's a little bit of a different monster, even from Bejon,

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Speaker 6: So we'll see.

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Speaker 8: How that goes. But yes, it does make me nervous.

516
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Speaker 9: Well, three tackles for loss for overshown last week and

517
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Speaker 9: second on the team in tackles overall. So hey, just

518
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 9: keep flying to the ball, but maintaining discipline in terms

519
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Speaker 9: of you know, gaps and things like that.

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Speaker 5: So not set in the edge things like that.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Brian, what do you feel like their titands do well?

523
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Speaker 3: No, Dallas Goddard, Let's talk about Grant cal Katra cal Katerra.

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Speaker 4: What do you feel like he does well?

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Speaker 9: Uh? Not saying that he's Dallas Goddard, but he's putting

526
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Speaker 9: up he's putting up good numbers and can't speak to

527
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Speaker 9: his blocking ability. Haven't studied him that much, but they're

528
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Speaker 9: still having success with the run game.

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Speaker 4: There was something that I actually saw with his blocking.

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Speaker 3: He manhandled the Jacksonville defensive end Eric Armstroet and one

531
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Speaker 3: of their linebackers at the same time drive them downfield.

532
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Speaker 3: So That's something that kind of impressed me is that

533
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Speaker 3: their tight ends do would block very.

534
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Speaker 4: Very well well.

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Speaker 9: And that's the thing whenever you have a good rushing

536
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Speaker 9: offense and yet think about San Francisco forty nine ers

537
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Speaker 9: excellent downfield blocking from the Kittles of the world and

538
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Speaker 9: the receivers, and so that's something you know, again, keep it.

539
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Speaker 9: Keep your linebackers clean so they can make the play,

540
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Speaker 9: because if they get beyond that, they're they're you know,

541
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Speaker 9: good at the downfield blocking and those yards after contact.

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Speaker 5: That's how that piles up.

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Speaker 3: All right, Who will it come down to defensively for

544
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Speaker 3: this Cowboys team When you talk about having to stop

545
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Speaker 3: this Eagles offense.

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Speaker 6: It might sound a little bit cliche, but I almost

547
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Speaker 6: want to say Eric Kendricks just because of the responsibility

548
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Speaker 6: of the green dot. While we're not talking about one

549
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Speaker 6: of those super confusing offenses, we are talking about a

550
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Speaker 6: situation where it's going to be really important for everyone

551
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Speaker 6: to be on the same page and to know what

552
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Speaker 6: they should be doing and should not be doing. So

553
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Speaker 6: him being the guy to kind of keep everybody organized,

554
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Speaker 6: I think is going to be really important. Outside of that,

555
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Speaker 6: we've seen some good games from Osa and Chauncey. So

556
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Speaker 6: I think we're going to need some more good performances

557
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Speaker 6: from them, just kind of putting that on their shoulders

558
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Speaker 6: since they've been some of the best performing guys. I

559
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Speaker 6: think they're going to kind of set the tone for

560
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Speaker 6: what the defensive line does or doesn't do, because you

561
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Speaker 6: can see statistically how different their results are whenever they're

562
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Speaker 6: on their game versus when they might make a mistake

563
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Speaker 6: or have a slip up.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, yeah, this is a great test for the

565
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Speaker 9: defensive tackles Osa, Mazi, Linval, Joseph, whoever's in there, because

566
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Speaker 9: the Cowboys play a big rotation there on the inside

567
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Speaker 9: as well as a defensive end. But you do this

568
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Speaker 9: is a game where you want Kendricks to be your

569
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Speaker 9: eating tackler and not your safeties because because guys are

570
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Speaker 9: getting past the second level, but those guys have to

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Speaker 9: keep the linebackers clean in this game.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna go Donna Wilson.

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Speaker 3: I say that because when you see him come up

574
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Speaker 3: to the close play closer to the line of scrip,

575
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Speaker 3: and you see what he's able to do.

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Speaker 4: Uh. He recovered obviously the sack.

577
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Speaker 3: Fumble last week forced by Carl Lawson, So I want

578
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Speaker 3: to see a little bit more of that, maybe.

579
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Speaker 4: Using him in the box a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: Uh, just to bring some extra help for Sakwan, because

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Speaker 3: it's definitely gonna be a challenge.

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Speaker 5: All Right, I love your idea on that. Yeah, could

583
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Speaker 5: see that this week.

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Speaker 5: And you look over to the Eagles.

658
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: You have Aj Brown limited, sa Quon Barkley limited, DeVante

659
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 3: Smith did not participate. Dallas Goddard was a full participant.

660
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: That's something also to really note, and let's start there,

661
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: Actually Dallas Goddard full participate in practice.

662
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, because he had well, he hasn't played since week six,

663
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 9: so to have him back at tight end. We've mentioned

664
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 9: Calcaterra has done an admirable job filling in for him,

665
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 9: but that would be a big plus to get him back.

666
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, and what'd you think about him specifically? Yeah, pretty

667
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 6: much same. I mean, the only thing that pops into

668
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 6: my head is can and how good Kalkatara has done.

669
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 6: I wonder if they're going to try to use both

670
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 6: of them or yeah twelve yeah, or if it'll just

671
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 6: end up being mostly got it out there. But I

672
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 6: mean that's definitely going to be a benefit. I guess

673
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 6: something else we can attribute to Kellen Moore. He's done

674
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 6: a really good job of using those guys and getting

675
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 6: them to actually play solid roles in the offense.

676
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: Something that I did notice is they've played a lot

677
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: more eleven personnel thirteen personnel as well, So it would

678
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: be interesting to see how they kind of work Dallas

679
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: in there. Let's go ahead and play our little magic game.

680
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 8: What is n ir rest?

681
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 9: So non intro arrest, So that means a veteran day,

682
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 9: So why not hurt? Okay, right, So, like I mean,

683
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 9: Eric Kendricks has been dealing with a shoulder and a calf,

684
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 9: Zach Martin dealing with stuff. But they generally don't practice

685
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 9: on Wednesdays anyway. Okay, so for kind of veteran rest, day.

686
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 8: I didn't know they did that too.

687
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all right, so who we got who

688
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: has the advantage? All right, about two names, and y'all

689
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: go ahead and choose.

690
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 4: We've got the advantage, all right.

691
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: Eagles tight end Grant Calcaterra in Cowboys linebackers.

692
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 6: Hm hmmers in general.

693
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 9: Wow, that's interesting, and throwing Mukuamu on that too in

694
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 9: case they have him match up on that. So okay,

695
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 9: you know, bigger body guy cornerback, but move inside and

696
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 9: play on that.

697
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 5: So, uh, draw? Can I can I chicken out and

698
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 5: say draw?

699
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: Fine?

700
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 11: Just we can.

701
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say that, okay, just on this one.

702
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: Next one, Davante Smith Jordan Lewis.

703
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 5: So that means Devant.

704
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, Davante not practicing today with a hamstring. That

705
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 9: could bode well for the Cowboys, Uh, because he's been

706
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 9: their leading receiver this year with a J Brown missing games.

707
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, Jordan Luis has just been so solid this year

708
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 6: that I want to give it to him by a

709
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 6: little bit. It's it's hard to say because none of

710
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 6: these guys playing a vacuum, you know, So of course

711
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 6: his play will depend on some other elements. But I'm

712
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 6: gonna give it to Jay Lute, because if I'm gonna

713
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 6: give it to anybody, it's gonna be Jay.

714
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 5: Yeah.

715
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 9: It depends on the pass rush, right, if it can

716
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 9: affect hurts And yeah, all.

717
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 3: Right, Dotes, I'm sorry, I literally butchered this typing.

718
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 11: Wow, I was.

719
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 4: Typing so fast. John Dotson sorry, And Trayvon Diggs.

720
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 6: Trayvon's actually been playing really sound as well. He's gotten

721
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 6: better at tackling. What do you think is the biggest

722
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 6: drawback to Trayvon Diggs.

723
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 8: Game right now?

724
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 4: Tackling? For sure?

725
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 8: You think it's still tackling. Oh yeah, out of everything

726
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 8: he does, it's still tackle.

727
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 4: I think he's just playing.

728
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: He's still playing cautious, which as is ex you know,

729
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 3: with an injury like that. But I think that that

730
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: has been one of the weaknesses to his game.

731
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 6: I would say so too, just because he's so good

732
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 6: at other things. Even though he's getting better, that's still

733
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 6: not his strongest point.

734
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 8: I would say that.

735
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 6: And just his uh, his ability to see other things

736
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 6: kind of puts him in a position where sometimes he's

737
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 6: trying to help out other people. So I don't know,

738
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say he's learned his lesson.

739
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 8: I'm me go Digs.

740
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going Digs on this too.

741
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 9: I mean Dotson he's got seven receptions this year, so

742
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 9: he's kind of down the pecking order. But what will

743
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 9: help Digs the most is the same thing that will

744
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 9: help Lewis or Kayln carson Is is get some pass rush.

745
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kayln Carson A J.

746
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 8: Brown, I let me give you that one.

747
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah.

748
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 4: That was all right. Uh, Grant Calcato.

749
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 3: Versus Chauncey Golson, and I only say that when it

750
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: comes down to like them in pass pro.

751
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 5: So you got Oh that's a good one. That's really good.

752
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 8: That's a really good one.

753
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 9: Oh wow, that's tough because well no, just because he's

754
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 9: probably Calcatara is probably chipping and helping. So if it

755
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 9: were one on one, I'd say Golston. But the fact

756
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 9: that Golston's also dealing with uh either Fred Johnson on

757
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 9: the left side or Lane Johnson on the right side.

758
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 9: Johnson and Johnson that cal Katarra, I guess Calcata.

759
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, just you know, I think Calcatara will get

760
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 6: the job done with with his chipping, but I think

761
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 6: Chohncey will figure out how to be effective in his

762
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 6: role as well. He's he's one of the more fundamentally

763
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 6: sound people on the defense, which is something I definitely

764
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 6: respect about his game. So yeah, I can see them

765
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 6: both doing their jobs really well. But I think I

766
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 6: think ultimately cal Katara is going to be closer to

767
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 6: an A grade at what he does than Chohncey will

768
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 6: be it what he does? Is that fair without.

769
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, what about Calcuttarra and Karl Lawson?

770
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 9: I think it's the same thing. I mean, I mean

771
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 9: Lawson with the two sacks last week. You know, hopefully

772
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 9: he's able to to continue that momentum.

773
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 5: But yeah, that's that's tough. I think it's kind of

774
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 5: for the same reasons.

775
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Their center Cam Jurgons Mazzie Smith.

776
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 6: Cam Mazzi has been getting pushed off the line of

777
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 6: scrimmage in the past couple of weeks, and like, if

778
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 6: he fixes that, please give me a reason to come

779
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 6: in and apologize next week.

780
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 8: I would love that.

781
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 6: But the way that he has been getting pushed backwards

782
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 6: off the line of scrimmage, that's the last thing that

783
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 6: you want to see from your nose tackle. And so

784
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 6: I just I can't in good conscious believe that you

785
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 6: know that he's gonna actually all of a sudden just

786
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 6: do better against cam Durgons.

787
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 9: You know, yeah, I think you have to give props

788
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 9: to the anchor of an offensive line, of an offense

789
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 9: that's second in the league and rushing.

790
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right for Johnson, Chauncey.

791
00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 9: Golston, Golston, especially if Johnson, I know we practiced today,

792
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 9: but he you know, leaving that game last week and

793
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 9: coming back in. He was hopped a little bit in

794
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 9: that game. And Johnson is the backup to my lottest

795
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 9: so that's why he's playing. So of course Golston is

796
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 9: the backup too, so it's a backup versus a backup.

797
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 9: But I'll take Golston on this.

798
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 8: I'm gonna give it.

799
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 9: To Chauncey, Okay, all right, Johnson Lawson, same thing, Carl Lawston.

800
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 5: We agree on that.

801
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 8: I think so too.

802
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 6: Lawson's on an upper dejectory in game. I feel like

803
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 6: he's gonna keep that going.

804
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: Lane Johnson, Chauncey Golston.

805
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 6: Lane Johnson is a brick wall like I think Chauncey

806
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 6: will do his best. But yeah, I see Lane Johnson.

807
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 6: Woman those all.

808
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 3: Right, Lane Johnson Carl Lawson, same thing. Yeah, that was easy,

809
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 3: all right, We'll best was what Carl Lawson did Sunday

810
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 3: in Week nine against the Falcons enough to see that

811
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: he could be one.

812
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 4: Of the top past rushers.

813
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 3: On this team, aside from Michael Parsons, aside from DeMarcus Lawrence,

814
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 3: because right now we ain't got them.

815
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that was kind of the hope coming

816
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 9: in because look at what Dorance Armstrong and Dante Fowler

817
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 9: were able to do last year as part of that rotation.

818
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 9: They put up good numbers when you get five or

819
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 9: six sacs a season and you're not the starter, and

820
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 9: that's what that's what it was supposed to be for

821
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 9: Lawson once they brought him in to training camp. So yeah,

822
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 9: I see him once they get you know, if and

823
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 9: when they get DeMarcus Lawrence back, but get Mica back then, yeah,

824
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 9: because it helps when you can come in fresh right

825
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 9: the way that they were able to use Fowler and Armstrong.

826
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, one of the best outside of those two. I

827
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 6: would say he's shaping up to be that if he

828
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 6: continues on the trajectory that he's on right now.

829
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

830
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 6: I think the performance that he had last Sunday is

831
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 6: like one of the things that's giving some people hope

832
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 6: about this defense. And now everybody say we're being negative,

833
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 6: but like, when it comes to you know, some of

834
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 6: the things that give people hope about this game, I

835
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 6: would say the fact that the Eagles are playing down

836
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 6: and the fact that we're starting to see some bright

837
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 6: flashes from players like Carl Lawson is a couple of

838
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 6: things that people will mention whenever they talk about like, Okay,

839
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 6: if the Cowboys do win, and how would they do

840
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 6: it and it would be a good gamey by guys

841
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 6: like him.

842
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 4: Let's talk about the hope for this game.

843
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 3: Certainly, I feel like we've been saying this every week

844
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: since Week one. The sense of urgency, the sense of urgency,

845
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: it must win game. Okay, when you talk about this

846
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: being that another must win game for this team, do

847
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: you feel like this could change the whole trajectory of

848
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: the season if they don't win this game. And how

849
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: much of a sense of urgency do you feel like

850
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: they need to have going in their urgency?

851
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 5: Is there there's no doubt about that.

852
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 9: Everyone understand Oh, absolutely, yes, everyone understands.

853
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 6: The thing is sorry, well, you know, no, the thing

854
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 6: is for a lot of fans, the season is over,

855
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 6: but these guys still want to win games. I think

856
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 6: until they're mathematically eliminated. What we've got in the Cowboys

857
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 6: locker room is a lot of competitors who are literally

858
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 6: going to do everything in their power to see what

859
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 6: they can do and see what they can make out

860
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 6: of this season. That's why you have people with sprained

861
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 6: ac joint talking about they want to play. That's a

862
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 6: different conversation for a different day actually tomorrow, since we'll

863
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 6: be talking about Cowboys offense. But I think it'll change

864
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 6: the trajectory because the fact that you're going to have

865
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 6: Cooper Rush in the game. I know we're talking about

866
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 6: Cowboys defense today, but I think between having Cooper Rush

867
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 6: in the game, between some of the realizations about what's

868
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 6: working and not working on defense, I think people are

869
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 6: looking forward to seeing some of those mistakes be corrected.

870
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 8: Like even what you.

871
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 6: Mentioned about Donno and him being in the box a

872
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 6: little bit more, that's something that people are really starting

873
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 6: to speak up about, just like, hey, that's where he's best.

874
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 6: Like maybe, like if we're not going to change the

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Speaker 6: person el, can we change up the scheme and put

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Speaker 6: him there if he's going to be more effective there.

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Speaker 6: So I do think, especially concerning the fact that so

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Speaker 6: many people are expecting not only in the Cowboys fan base,

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Speaker 6: but just in the media in general, so many people

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Speaker 6: are expecting the Eagles to win. I think if the

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Speaker 6: Cowboys do win, it's going to open up a lot

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Speaker 6: of conversations about like, Okay, what went well, what does

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Speaker 6: this mean for Cooper Rush and him being in the

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Speaker 6: quarterback role for the next few weeks. What does this

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Speaker 6: say about the defense and then being able to get

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys to win despite this crazy rushing attack, Like

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Speaker 6: if you think about all the things that would have

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Speaker 6: to go right for them to win, Like, yeah, that

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Speaker 6: would be a crazy conversation to have after a win.

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Speaker 3: Realistically, what are y'all's odds that they will win this game?

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Speaker 9: If they don't shoot themselves in the foot, then there's yes,

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Speaker 9: this is a winnable game for sure. They're beating the

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Speaker 9: Eagle six times in a row at at and T Stadium.

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Speaker 9: The Eagles, like, say, they couldn't close out Jacksonville last week.

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Speaker 9: The Cowboys defense, you know, two weeks in a row,

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Speaker 9: has gotten three and ounce in the fourth quarter to

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Speaker 9: give the offense a chance to win the game. So,

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Speaker 9: but this is going to be one of those things.

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Speaker 9: You have to get takeaways, and you have to improve

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Speaker 9: in the red zone offensively and defensively, and so everyone

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Speaker 9: knows what the issues are. Is this going to be

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Speaker 9: the week that they stop shooting themselves in the foot,

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Speaker 9: that they make third down conversions, that they actually score

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Speaker 9: touchdowns in the red zone, and not settle for a

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Speaker 9: Brandon Aubrey field goal. So so do two of those

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Speaker 9: three things, and you've got a real shot.

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Speaker 8: Oh what you had?

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Speaker 6: I was going to say, agreed, I was just going

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Speaker 6: to add in the penalties, getting the tackles right. It's

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Speaker 6: hard to say what the odds are, but it's going

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Speaker 6: to depend on the Cowboys cleaning those things up and

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Speaker 6: also getting the Eagles to make a few mistakes, which.

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Speaker 8: They can make.

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Speaker 6: Last time Cooper Rush went on a one street for

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys, they had a different O line in a

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Speaker 6: different run game, and that's still something that they're going

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Speaker 6: to need in order for them to be successful.

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Speaker 8: So I guess that's a little sneak peak for tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, you're gonna wrap things up here on

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Speaker 3: Girls Talk, Boys Talk. Tomorrow, we'll be back here in

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