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Speaker 4: This week's what is this week three of training camp
Speaker 4: for the Dallas Cowboys out in ox Star, California. This
Speaker 4: to me, this to me and and and all the
Speaker 4: practices that we are looking at is the big one.
Speaker 3: This is the joint practice with the La Rams.
Speaker 4: They come into town and you know this is where
Speaker 4: you get to test your manhood.
Speaker 3: This is where it's good on good.
Speaker 4: This is where you get kind of be able to
Speaker 4: set yourself apart. And we're gonna get into this. I
Speaker 4: do want to recap some of the injuries that the
Speaker 4: Cowboys have had so far. Yesterday Mazzie Smith went out
Speaker 4: with the well yesterday went out with the knee injury.
Speaker 4: You already have Tyler Guidon out with his knee injury.
Speaker 4: You have Rob Jones out with the broken neck. He'll
Speaker 4: be out for a couple of months. Of course, you
Speaker 4: have the decimation of the dB room and all those
Speaker 4: guys over there hurt trying to work their way back.
Speaker 4: So the Cowboys are looking at this situation with some
Speaker 4: guys that are injured. But if Coach Schottenheimer is to
Speaker 4: keep to what he's been saying that this is going
Speaker 4: to be a physical practice, it's going to be a
Speaker 4: physical training camp, that this is going to be how
Speaker 4: we are going to do things as a football unit,
Speaker 4: I think he has to keep pushing forward to this.
Speaker 4: But they have the joint practice with the LA Rams today.
Speaker 4: From your perspective, from a player's perspective, has the joint
Speaker 4: practice for the vets. I'm gonna say for the ones
Speaker 4: and for the twos. I said this on my show earlier.
Speaker 4: No offense, no offense to the Jesse Hollies of the
Speaker 4: worlds career jag, I can say that's another guy. Now,
Speaker 4: it's just another guy in the National Football League. Please
Speaker 4: don't disrespect.
Speaker 2: But but.
Speaker 4: I was always on the bubble. I was always looking.
Speaker 4: We don't want to see you, guys. We don't want
Speaker 4: to see the Jesse Hollies of the world in this.
Speaker 4: And you guys have Saturday. You'll have all Saturday for
Speaker 4: the world to see you, the Jesse Hollies of the world.
Speaker 4: But for this joint practice, I want to see one
Speaker 4: verse one, twos versus twos, good versus good. How important
Speaker 4: from a player's perspective is the joint practice?
Speaker 5: Man you talk about, So you know, every day at
Speaker 5: training camp, of course you're getting evaluated, but you're getting
Speaker 5: evaluated against the same talent day in day out, day
Speaker 5: in day out. Now, once you get this joint practice,
Speaker 5: and it's really like some it's true competition as far
Speaker 5: as like almost game like competition. So now you're going
Speaker 5: to actually get a measuring stick of yourself, of your
Speaker 5: team against some other talent. You're going to get to
Speaker 5: go up against guys that you don't see every day,
Speaker 5: so you're not getting used to what they're doing. You
Speaker 5: don't know their releases, you don't know their techniques and
Speaker 5: everything else like that. So this comes down to like
Speaker 5: actually being a good place to start, you know, looking
Speaker 5: at your talent and saying, Okay, what do we have
Speaker 5: compared to what everybody else has? These practices are going
Speaker 5: to be some of the most intense practices that they've
Speaker 5: had so far through our training camp.
Speaker 4: No, and I agree with you one hundred percent, because
Speaker 4: you're talking about you know, being in camp. You know ten, twelve,
Speaker 4: thirteen days, you going up against the same people every
Speaker 4: single day. Don't nobody got thirteen days with the bag,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like you ain't got that
Speaker 4: many too in your toolbox.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So eventually, you know, whatever moves you got, your three
Speaker 4: four move that you got in your toolbox, I didn't
Speaker 4: seen them. You didn't see mine. We then repped it
Speaker 4: out a multitude of.
Speaker 5: Times yea with teammates, so we know, so we know
Speaker 5: that there's that rub where we're gonna go hard, but
Speaker 5: we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Be respectful with what we do.
Speaker 5: Okay, Now we got this other team coming in here,
Speaker 5: and it's like no holds barred at this point, we're
Speaker 5: going to like WW SmackDown right now. It's about to
Speaker 5: get cracking for real. So I'm excited to hear what's
Speaker 5: going on out there. I know knew he was gonna
Speaker 5: be keeping us in form when we get with him
Speaker 5: and everything like that, just to see, you know, okay,
Speaker 5: where are we at with these injuries, how is it
Speaker 5: looking like putting this man here, putting that man there,
Speaker 5: and uh, just to see, you know, like what shot
Speaker 5: he's gonna think about it. Also, after everything has done
Speaker 5: and said.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this being coach Schottenheimer's first official training camp
Speaker 4: as a head coach, you know this joint practice and
Speaker 4: I know that he and Sean McVay have talked about
Speaker 4: how these practices will look and we all know that
Speaker 4: the coaches get together and they kind of map out
Speaker 4: they what they want these practices to look at. But
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, there are some points
Speaker 4: in time in this where, yes, things are scripted. For
Speaker 4: those of you who don't know, this is how the
Speaker 4: practice plan works down, right, So the coaches will get together,
Speaker 4: Sean McVay and his staff will get with Schottenheimer and
Speaker 4: their staff and they'll go, hey, listen on this this period,
Speaker 4: we want to work on first down runs.
Speaker 3: So this period gonna be all first down runs.
Speaker 4: So defensively, you should probably put in place some of
Speaker 4: your best first down defensive things and vice versa. Hey,
Speaker 4: in this period, we want to work on you know,
Speaker 4: third medium, right, so hey, we're gonna be throwing past
Speaker 4: at a third and medium. You should probably put a
Speaker 4: defense in that you're gonna be looking at to work
Speaker 4: in for past at a third and medium, third and long,
Speaker 4: so on.
Speaker 3: And so forth. You'll have a special team piers in.
Speaker 4: So there is a level of programming that is there, right,
Speaker 4: But then there's also going to come a point in
Speaker 4: time where they look across the field and they go, hey,
Speaker 4: we going ten plays, were going ten plays, give me
Speaker 4: your first team, d averse my first team.
Speaker 3: Oh, and we'll swap it. And there is no script.
Speaker 4: I'm you know, culches to the sideline, players to the
Speaker 4: side line.
Speaker 3: We're gonna run this like a game.
Speaker 4: And now you have to go out there and be
Speaker 4: able to compete at that level. And for me, if
Speaker 4: if Shoty's talking about, hey, we want to compete at
Speaker 4: every turn, everything we want to do is competing. I
Speaker 4: think these joint practices are so important because you're ones.
Speaker 4: They aren't playing on Saturday, like like I don't some
Speaker 4: teams do, right.
Speaker 3: I know that.
Speaker 4: I know that there's teams like the Chiefs who say
Speaker 4: we're gonna give Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce and these
Speaker 4: guys some some reps in these pieces and games.
Speaker 2: Why you might only be ten reps, but but they may.
Speaker 4: But I don't know how shot He's gonna do it.
Speaker 4: But in the past, the ones didn't play in these
Speaker 4: preseason games. So so this is going to be a
Speaker 4: moment in time where Dak c d George Pickens are
Speaker 4: in there. We're gonna see what Nate Thomas can do.
Speaker 4: We're gonna see Tyler Booker what you know. Welcome to
Speaker 4: the big leads, right, because you're gonna have to face
Speaker 4: some some something that you know and we'll get more
Speaker 4: into the matchups. But you're gonna have to face some
Speaker 4: guys in front. Uh, we won't be you won't have
Speaker 4: Tyler guy, and that sucks, man, because if anybody needs
Speaker 4: these reps, a guy like Tyler Guidon absolutely could use
Speaker 4: these level of reps in this practice because you know,
Speaker 4: for him again to amount of litmus tests, it has
Speaker 4: to be that way for him. But I do want
Speaker 4: to get into the battle that we may see. What
Speaker 4: are some battles that you may be looking at jo practice.
Speaker 5: You already know, bro, you know, you know it's just
Speaker 5: going to be the wide receivers in the DBS. You know,
Speaker 5: that's that's that's the first thing I want to see.
Speaker 5: But even getting past that, we know that the real
Speaker 5: now is.
Speaker 4: It you want to you more intrigue on seeing the
Speaker 4: Cowboys rob receivers worth the Rams DBS or the Rams
Speaker 4: wild receivers worth the Cowboys dvs.
Speaker 3: Very very interesting.
Speaker 5: So it goes both ways. So like like we talked about, okay,
Speaker 5: so look at it. We got Ceedee Lamb George Pickens,
Speaker 5: you know, arguably two of the one of the best
Speaker 5: tandems in the NFL right now, even before the before
Speaker 5: they've even touched the field together, all right, But then
Speaker 5: you look on the other side of the field, you
Speaker 5: got Pooka Nuka and Davante Adams over there, all right,
Speaker 5: Davanta Adams. I don't know how many times he been
Speaker 5: All Pro Pro bowler. And we know what Puka Nuka
Speaker 5: has done since he came into the league. He basically
Speaker 5: made uh, what's my man's name?
Speaker 2: He made him expendable cup.
Speaker 5: Yeah he so, so we know how much confidence they
Speaker 5: got in him. So of course, knowing what we have
Speaker 5: in the Cowboys secondary right now with so many injuries
Speaker 5: and different guys filling in and different guys when first
Speaker 5: year on the team and everything, yeah, I want to
Speaker 5: see both sides, got to be honest with you. But
Speaker 5: even before that, we know that the stress is on
Speaker 5: that offensive line right now. So those matchups are going
Speaker 5: to be the most key matchups because if you ain't
Speaker 5: got no protection, you can't throw the ball, and if
Speaker 5: you don't have any pass rush, you're going to be
Speaker 5: a long day covering back there.
Speaker 2: So upfront and in the back end.
Speaker 5: Is gonna be the two places that I really want
Speaker 5: to see get corrected.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, it's gonna be a lot of the trenches.
Speaker 4: It's going to be a lot of the trenches because
Speaker 4: this season will live and or die in the trenches. Man,
Speaker 4: and I get it right, like George Pickens phenomenal talent.
Speaker 4: We know what CD Lamb is, right like we know
Speaker 4: we know what Dak Prescott is. Whenever we get Michael
Speaker 4: Parson's back, we know what that's going to be. But
Speaker 4: make no mistake about it, people, if they can't hold
Speaker 4: up on that offense and defensive line, we'll be having
Speaker 4: the same conversation comes January again. And for the Cowboys
Speaker 4: right now, they just signed Lyyo Collins. He worked out
Speaker 4: with them last week. I want to see what Loo
Speaker 4: Collins can do because the rams they don't have all
Speaker 4: were old future Hall of Fame Aaron Donald anymore, thank god, right,
Speaker 4: thank god. But at that time we did have Zach Martin.
Speaker 4: That was a good battle. It was a good, good
Speaker 4: battle between those two Titans. But what they what they
Speaker 4: do have now is the way that they run. They
Speaker 4: run like a three four defense.
Speaker 3: So how is this.
Speaker 4: They're gonna have a Fisk, They're gonna have Jared Verse,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have Young And I'm looking at those guys
Speaker 4: in the interior. I'm confident, like I don't I don't
Speaker 4: lose any sleep over Tyler Smith. Tyler's good. Tyler's gonna
Speaker 4: be fine. Whether he practiced or not. Tyler Smith is
Speaker 4: gonna be okay. He gonna be all Pro this year.
Speaker 4: He gonna be a Pro bowler this year at that
Speaker 4: left guard spot.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about that. If he's healthy, good, he's good.
Speaker 4: But what I do look at is now, is okay,
Speaker 4: rook Tyler Booker. The one thing that you struggled in
Speaker 4: was quickness. You struggled in the part of athleticism.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: If you told me that the guy that Tyler Booker
Speaker 4: had to go up against was this massive, strong dude
Speaker 4: that he was going to be in this hand in
Speaker 4: hand combat kind of thing.
Speaker 2: You're not too worried about it.
Speaker 3: Not too worried about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But when you tell me, oh, Young and Fisk
Speaker 4: and Verse and Verse, there are two hundred and ninety
Speaker 4: pound dudes who are built on speed and quickness. And
Speaker 4: that's the one area that Tyler Booker coming out of
Speaker 4: college struggled that.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna have to see.
Speaker 5: And Verse came into the league last year. He was
Speaker 5: a rookie last year, right, Yes, And I think you
Speaker 5: made Pro Bowl. And I don't know whatever accolades he got,
Speaker 5: but I know that the impact that he had was
Speaker 5: so immediate, and that boy is running downhill one hundred
Speaker 5: miles an hour coming off that ball. So I agree
Speaker 5: with you. Definitely there upfront is going to be and
Speaker 5: then you got to see what Low is gonna look like.
Speaker 3: Yes, how many years?
Speaker 2: When was the last time he played?
Speaker 4: He didn't play last year, so two years, so he
Speaker 4: didn't play all last year. In the year that he
Speaker 4: did play, he battled some injuries, and that other year
Speaker 4: that he.
Speaker 2: Played, there we go. So so you know, his timing
Speaker 2: gotta get right.
Speaker 5: He's it's a few things that's gonna go on with
Speaker 5: those between those guys up there as well. So but
Speaker 5: just like you said, man, they're gonna have to hold
Speaker 5: it down and and and I'm already concerned about Dak
Speaker 5: as far as the protection, you know, him staying healthy.
Speaker 5: It's it's like to have these injuries right now, you know,
Speaker 5: to say it's it's good and bad, it's it's it's
Speaker 5: kind of tricky to say that. But you rather have
Speaker 5: the injuries early on, so guy's could heal up before
Speaker 5: the end of the season.
Speaker 2: You don't want to have these injuries late in the
Speaker 2: season when.
Speaker 5: It's getting to push close to push playoff. Times and
Speaker 5: things like that. So definitely, man, we're gonna have to
Speaker 5: see what's happening. But then we gotta look at what
Speaker 5: our d line is gonna do up.
Speaker 2: Against their offensive line. You know.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately Marzy went down the other day, you know. But
Speaker 5: we're gonna have to see who's gonna put in and
Speaker 5: plug in and play and to.
Speaker 3: See where we're not. Wait a second, now, this is
Speaker 3: the play?
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, this is This is where the players can
Speaker 4: come and have conversation how we would have it in
Speaker 4: the locker room.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: I don't want to be messy and I don't want
Speaker 4: to be wrecky specky, And I'm not saying that this
Speaker 4: isn't truthful.
Speaker 3: The timing of it is is puts things in question.
Speaker 4: Mazzie Smith is a guy who needs to have a
Speaker 4: good training camp and has up until this point, has
Speaker 4: not had a pleasing training camp. And then the day
Speaker 4: before you're about to have the Rams come into town,
Speaker 4: when you know what the Rams are gonna be up
Speaker 4: front and running the football leaf practice for a little
Speaker 4: bit of a inebable. I'm not saying that it's not legit.
Speaker 4: I'm also not saying that it ain't.
Speaker 2: What you I know you ain't trying to say if
Speaker 2: you're scared.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just saying it.
Speaker 4: Timing doesn't help the like when you start putting the
Speaker 4: pieces together. And this is not me calling out the
Speaker 4: man again, I'm never calling out the man. I'm calling
Speaker 4: out the player, right, it's not a shot at. I'm
Speaker 4: just saying for someone who And this is where the.
Speaker 3: Fight comes in for me.
Speaker 4: If if I'm looking around and people have consistently been
Speaker 4: questioning my will to want to compete, if people have
Speaker 4: been questioning my desire to want to be the best,
Speaker 4: now practice Now. He may be out there practice today,
Speaker 4: but I don't want to do that.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't want The optics of it doesn't
Speaker 3: look well.
Speaker 4: And if you're talking about creating a culture, if shot it,
Speaker 4: you're trying to create a culture of toughness. If you're
Speaker 4: trying to create a quoter culture of guys being quote
Speaker 4: unquote reliable and physical, all these kind of things. What
Speaker 4: his history and then what's in front of us?
Speaker 5: It's I understand, I don't know, you know, but our
Speaker 5: thing is this.
Speaker 2: You gotta be available when your numbers right, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 5: And availability exactly, and so you know, uh, understanding what
Speaker 5: he's been through over the past few years and where
Speaker 5: he is right now. At the same time, you know,
Speaker 5: you can't go out there and show bad if you're
Speaker 5: a MAZI right now, you know you have to put
Speaker 5: your best chips on the table. You have to put
Speaker 5: your best cards on the table, as they say, and
Speaker 5: play that hand the best way that you can.
Speaker 2: And if he actually has.
Speaker 5: Some type of injury going on or something that's going
Speaker 5: to have him out there not looking good up against
Speaker 5: this joint practice, nah, don't, don't.
Speaker 2: Don't, don't put yourself out there. I mean, that's a
Speaker 2: good point. You got to you gotta do the smart thing.
Speaker 5: You gotta protect your investment, and his investment is being
Speaker 5: able to make this team and having some longevity in
Speaker 5: this league and putting some good film out there.
Speaker 4: All right, good point. All right, we'll take our first
Speaker 4: break of the show. When we come back, the Cowboys
Speaker 4: have put out their official unofficial depth Tart will look
Speaker 4: at that and some more camp battles that we're looking
Speaker 4: at in the joint practice against the Rams for Jesse Holly,
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Speaker 4: Jesse Holly here as we break down the Cowboys training
Speaker 4: Camp twenty twenty five. Today they take on the LA
Speaker 4: rams and the joint practice leading up to the first
Speaker 4: preseason game for the Dallas Cowboys and Anthony. Today the
Speaker 4: Cowboys release the UNAF official depth chart, so we kind
Speaker 4: of have a look into what Coach Schottenheimer curse Eberflus,
Speaker 4: who are both.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: Coach eba Flus, this is second time around as a Cowboys,
Speaker 4: but for coach Shottenheimer his first time head coach for
Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys as they get ready to take on
Speaker 4: this trading camp together. And so I'm gonna read off
Speaker 4: the offensive depth chart. You tell me if anything stands
Speaker 4: out to you in that or is it just here's
Speaker 4: what it is?
Speaker 3: It is what it is right now?
Speaker 4: What they have and this is this is quote unquote unofficial,
Speaker 4: but it's from the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Things change. Football is very, very very fluid.
Speaker 4: Right now, you're starting quarterback Joe non play, Dak Prescott
Speaker 4: starting at your left tackle. They have in as of
Speaker 4: today in the unofficial depth chart, Tyler Geiton, you're starting
Speaker 4: left tackle. You're starting left guard, Tyler Smith, You're starting center,
Speaker 4: Cooper Bebe, right guard, Tyler Booker, right tackle, Terrence Steele
Speaker 4: starting tight end, newly minted money Jeff Jeff, Jake Ferguson,
Speaker 4: uh your wide receivers three as they're opening up with
Speaker 4: Ceedee Lamb, George Pickens.
Speaker 3: Okay, Jalen Tobert.
Speaker 4: There's been a lot of talking training camp about you
Speaker 4: know where Jenen Tobert fits in that. I know that
Speaker 4: there's been some plays from from Cavante, There's been some
Speaker 4: plays from Tray Shawn Holden and Cropper and Brooks and Floorinois.
Speaker 4: But right now they have, unofficially at that number three spot,
Speaker 4: Jalen Tobert.
Speaker 3: Your full back, Hunter Lipke.
Speaker 4: If they're going with a fullback and you're starting running back,
Speaker 4: who is it Javonte Williams. So right now, they don't
Speaker 4: have blue, they don't have Miles Sanders. Uh, they have
Speaker 4: Javonte Williams as the starter, Sanders as the backup, and
Speaker 4: Jayden blue At is your third string running back.
Speaker 2: Williams was where last year?
Speaker 3: He was Denver?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so he was coach Payne.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was in Denver.
Speaker 4: Uh. That's my Tar Hill right there, my Matar Hill,
Speaker 4: Davonte Williams. But uh, yeah, so that's your that's your
Speaker 4: unofficial depth chart right now. Backups Jonathan Mingo, Nate Thomas,
Speaker 4: t J. Bass, Hoffman Sadiq, Charles Hakee, Madnejai Luke Schoolmaker.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: And then you have Kavante Turpen being the backup receiver,
Speaker 4: Ryan Florinoid, Joey Milton, Joe Milton. So right now, Joe
Speaker 4: Milton is the backup quarterback and Miles Centers your backup
Speaker 4: running back. Heading over to the defensive side, and the
Speaker 4: unofficial depth chart for the Cowboys defense. Starting at one
Speaker 4: defensive end, you have Marshawn Kneeland, so he's going to
Speaker 4: get to start there at the other defensive spot.
Speaker 3: Michael far They got Michael. They said, listen, Michael, you
Speaker 3: under contract.
Speaker 2: Don't lose no sleepover.
Speaker 4: They got Michael Parson on the underficial Your two d
Speaker 4: tackles is.
Speaker 3: When they're gonna get interesting.
Speaker 4: Oh so diggy'sui okay, and the other defensive tackle right,
Speaker 4: Mozzie Smith. Mozzie Smith. They have Mozzi right now in
Speaker 4: as a starter. Now here are your three linebackers right now,
Speaker 4: if they were to start the season today, in this
Speaker 4: unofficial depth chart, you have Maris lea foul Jack Samborne,
Speaker 4: who I'm a fan, I'm I'm team Jack Samborne. I
Speaker 4: know people were like, why I'm team Jack Samborne? Give
Speaker 4: me the white crazy linebacker with the crooked nose.
Speaker 3: I'm all in. I'm all in on Jackson.
Speaker 2: Yeah uh.
Speaker 4: And then Kenneth Murray, who's been out of practice because
Speaker 4: he had a baby, came back the other day. So
Speaker 4: hopefully Kenneth Murray aka K nine will will be that
Speaker 4: starting linebackers cornerbacks one cornerback, Deron Blan.
Speaker 3: The other cornerback. And this is in quotations because if
Speaker 3: for whatever reason.
Speaker 4: That he's healthy, Trayvon Diggson will get to start right
Speaker 4: But if he isn't, which a lot of people think
Speaker 4: that he won't be, that they will start the year
Speaker 4: maybe on the pup or something like that. They have
Speaker 4: Kyrie Elam, who's the darling of training camp right now,
Speaker 4: making a lot of plays in training camp. And your
Speaker 4: nickel cornerback Keemon Hall. Keemon Hall has been a guy
Speaker 4: they've rotated into those spots. They've had some some Izzy
Speaker 4: that's played in that in the slot as well, they've
Speaker 4: had some Troy Pride playing the slot. And they've had
Speaker 4: of course Deron Bland has even played a little bit
Speaker 4: of the slot. But they have right now Deron Bland
Speaker 4: will be outside Carry would be the other cornerback, and
Speaker 4: in the slot will be Keymon Hall. You're starting safeties.
Speaker 4: I love it, and Wilson and Maleak Hooker. Another thing
Speaker 4: that I think is really really important, and this for
Speaker 4: just roster and roster purposes and teammaking purposes. You're starting
Speaker 4: kickoff and pump returner of course is Cavante Turpin. So
Speaker 4: when you start talking about guys like Deuce Vaughan, he's
Speaker 4: the backup pump returner. Yanya Thomas is the backup kick returner.
Speaker 4: And that always is an interesting thing for me because
Speaker 4: if Dung plans to make this team, one can't make
Speaker 4: the club in the tub. This is the third training
Speaker 4: camp that you've had hamstring injuries limiting your opportunities. Don't
Speaker 4: know when you'll be back. But every camp, every day
Speaker 4: camp that you're not there, there's someone else that's getting an.
Speaker 3: Opportunity to do so.
Speaker 4: And if you're not in the mix of being a
Speaker 4: course special teams player. And isn't what I tell people
Speaker 4: on game day? I know people say, oh, it's a
Speaker 4: fifty two man roster.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 4: You're only dressing out forty SI on game day. You
Speaker 4: only get to dress forty six on game day, right,
Speaker 4: And then by NFL rule, you have to have nine
Speaker 4: offensive linemen. You have to have nine offensive linemen, so
Speaker 4: the five that's starting, and then you gotta have four
Speaker 4: that automatically get jerseys.
Speaker 2: And people normally gonna dress three quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: So you're gonna have now.
Speaker 4: But you know, now you get the you get the
Speaker 4: you get the emergency quarterback that doesn't count against your
Speaker 4: forty six, So you get the emergency because a couple
Speaker 4: of years ago, you know, the last thing you want
Speaker 4: is for not to have enough offensive lineman and then
Speaker 4: not enough quarterbacks. We had that situation a year ago,
Speaker 4: going a receiver had to play quarterback and that's bad
Speaker 4: for the brand. Yes, right, So now you start breaking
Speaker 4: this thing down and you start looking at spots. You
Speaker 4: start saying, Okay, if I have nine offensive linemen, I
Speaker 4: got at least two quarterbacks, that's eleven. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I only get forty six. So teams start
Speaker 4: looking at where could guys play multiple spots? And if
Speaker 4: you're not being a being a backup, if you're not
Speaker 4: on at least two or three special.
Speaker 5: Teams, starting not starting, not a backup on the special team,
Speaker 5: but like actually.
Speaker 3: Starting starting, you know what I'm saying, I can't give
Speaker 3: you a jersey.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: Hey, So my rookie year, all preseason, made plays, you know,
Speaker 5: you make the team. You juiced about making the team.
Speaker 5: First game, packed my bag up, and then I get
Speaker 5: to the stadium and I remember I'm juice getting to
Speaker 5: the stadium, like oh this this this live game, this
Speaker 5: is a regular season game. Get to the stadium and
Speaker 5: I go to my locker and I had a polo
Speaker 5: and a baseball hat in my locker. So I'm looking
Speaker 5: all around in the locker room like where'm my bag at?
Speaker 5: You know, I'm trying to find my stuff and blame
Speaker 5: Bishop blame. Bishop was there and shout out to my
Speaker 5: boy blame. He always kept at one hundred, and he
Speaker 5: was like, what you're looking for?
Speaker 2: And he already knew it was cracky.
Speaker 3: What you look at.
Speaker 2: I'm like, blame, where my stuff at? Oh?
Speaker 5: Man, you ain't playing today. I'm like what I was like, Man,
Speaker 5: I made the table. He's like, yeah, you made the
Speaker 5: fifty three man roster, but you ain't make the forty
Speaker 5: six man today, right, And so I'm like I'm sitting
Speaker 5: there and he like, you know what that means, right,
Speaker 5: And I'm still just like rookie Young Like he's like,
Speaker 5: don't ever give him an opportunity to.
Speaker 2: Do this to you again.
Speaker 5: And I was just like I just remember sitting there
Speaker 5: like spirit crushed, heart hurt, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I'm calling my dad like, well, you know, I ain't
Speaker 5: gonna be able to play today because I'm inactive, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And that's just one of those
Speaker 5: things that like people out there who don't understand how
Speaker 5: it actually goes. Just like Jesse said, you know, you
Speaker 5: got forty fifty three men on the roster, but you
Speaker 5: can only dress forty six. So and just like he
Speaker 5: talked about the numbers got to be somewhere, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. And so when those numbers are the
Speaker 5: different position and they need to have other people up,
Speaker 5: you're going to be downright, you know. But the thing
Speaker 5: about that what you have to do and what blame
Speaker 5: meant by that when he told me to never let
Speaker 5: it happen and prove my value.
Speaker 2: Day in and day out.
Speaker 5: Make it so like I'm so valuable to the team
Speaker 5: and in certain situations that that does not happen to me.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. We just I think to call newies on the line.
Speaker 4: What we're gonna do is we're gonna take up a
Speaker 4: break because we're at the top. We'll take a break.
Speaker 4: So we're gonna have to hold on just a second,
Speaker 4: my boy, We're gonna.
Speaker 3: Take a break. Come back.
Speaker 4: We got Newie Scrugs calling in from Oxtar, California. We'll
Speaker 4: get his perspective on what joint practice will look like,
Speaker 4: how the energy is out there, and what are some
Speaker 4: training camp battle that he's looking at. So stay right
Speaker 4: here with us. This is the players and lines. We'll
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Speaker 4: And we have a special caller in from Oxnar, California.
Speaker 4: Newie Scruggs is with us and Newie as we prepare
Speaker 4: for the Paddent joint practice with the La Rams, give
Speaker 4: us what the vibes are one of some storylines that
Speaker 4: you've been looking at. What are some things that you've
Speaker 4: been feeling hearing about this week's Paddit practice, Paddit joint practice.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so this is really going to replace work for
Speaker 10: the starters, like Dak Prescott at cd LAMB because they're
Speaker 10: not playing Saturday. This is the work they're getting here.
Speaker 11: So Dak spoke about, you know, looking towards some.
Speaker 10: Live reps and getting out there. For me, I'm looking
Speaker 10: straight at the offensive and defensive line. I'm gonna go
Speaker 10: find Nate Newton. Gonna stand next to Nate and just
Speaker 10: listen to him die, you know, dissect everything he sees
Speaker 10: about what's going on up front because obviously left tackle,
Speaker 10: what's going on there? Rookie Tyler Booker, how is he
Speaker 10: going to handle things on the flip side? Okay, we
Speaker 10: know the Cowboys have run issues. We know Sean mcbaby
Speaker 10: leagues in the run. What what are they going to
Speaker 10: do there? And then as far as that defensive line go,
Speaker 10: what kind of you know, how can they stop them there?
Speaker 10: And if they're not being able to get any pressure?
Speaker 10: What are those dbs looking like here? I mean Carl
Speaker 10: pick I mean George Pickens looks good.
Speaker 3: Cede Lamb looks right.
Speaker 10: There exactly, Carl Pickets from Tennessee, Tennessee. But but you know,
Speaker 10: are they looking good because Pickings of CD Lamberd had good.
Speaker 10: He looked good, because man, these dudes got issues. So
Speaker 10: here's Davante Adams pooking the cool. So I'm eager to
Speaker 10: see exactly how how how things work on the work
Speaker 10: on the back of the front for the Cowboys. Brian
Speaker 10: Schottenheimer said he acts good conversation week and this week
Speaker 10: with Sean McVay about what they're trying to get done here.
Speaker 10: Shotty says it's gonna be a lot of emphasis just
Speaker 10: on the cowboys what they need to do. So uh yeah,
Speaker 10: I mean I'm looking forward to it. It should be
Speaker 10: you know, it should be some tipper slaying a little
Speaker 10: bit here. But hopefully we don't see too many fights
Speaker 10: because I don't want to see a bunch of fights
Speaker 10: take away from the ability to get plays and that's
Speaker 10: what we need to see. We need to see plays
Speaker 10: being run here. So how physical it could be? Shotty
Speaker 10: keeps talking about using physical physical Well, okay, here cun
Speaker 10: the rams and they'll be physical for you.
Speaker 5: Hey, so newie right now, if you had to pick
Speaker 5: a I guess you could say a camp MVP right
Speaker 5: now on both sides of the ball, Like, who would
Speaker 5: be the two guys that you were saying flashing and
Speaker 5: standing out the most man look City Lamb just.
Speaker 10: He just looks good, you know, he looks you know
Speaker 10: what he is. He's a guy in his prime and
Speaker 10: that's what he looks like right now. He understands it.
Speaker 10: He's back at camp. He didn't miss you know, he
Speaker 10: lastly missed camp time. He's soaking in what he needs to.
Speaker 10: He's all so refreshed because he sees what pickings could
Speaker 10: possibly be and do for his career. On the defensive side,
Speaker 10: I had a good conversation with donnand as a Rocky
Speaker 10: with a rookie defensive end. Yesterday he slashed out here
Speaker 10: and I want to see what does he do against
Speaker 10: another team. And he's a competitor. I mean, he is
Speaker 10: a competitor. And also, come to find out, I sat
Speaker 10: down talked to me yesterday. He's named after Donovan McNabb.
Speaker 10: His parents and family big Philly, Philly fans. He's born
Speaker 10: twenty five minutes north of the city, but they named
Speaker 10: him after Donovan McNabb. I'm like, okay, that's wild. That's wild.
Speaker 10: And he wants to soak in a lot of knowledge.
Speaker 10: And you guys have been been in the NFL, and
Speaker 10: you know, some guys want to learn from people. Some
Speaker 10: guys just hey, man, you know, just let me go
Speaker 10: do what I do. He's always asking questions and I
Speaker 10: asked him one day. I asked, yes, do you know
Speaker 10: what de Marcus where? He said, no, I don't know.
Speaker 11: So you never met him? No, he said, I met
Speaker 11: bon Miller.
Speaker 10: I said, well, let me get you his number and
Speaker 10: you can connect with him. And already those two guys
Speaker 10: are having a conversation. And I just think anytime some
Speaker 10: who's young in this game can come and learn from
Speaker 10: somebody who's been in it and who's got a gold jacket,
Speaker 10: you're gonna help yourself if you listen to them.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, one of the guys that we all feel have
Speaker 4: needs this work, needs to have a good training camp.
Speaker 4: Left practice the other day with a bit of a
Speaker 4: knee injury. Any update on Mazzie Smith in a knee injury?
Speaker 4: Will he practice today? Will he partake in this padded
Speaker 4: joint practice?
Speaker 10: Good question. I don't know. I do not have an
Speaker 10: answer for you on that. I would suspect, if anything,
Speaker 10: you just want to go ahead and be cautious because
Speaker 10: you need this guy for seventeen games and if he's
Speaker 10: not one hundred percent since and running this guy out here,
Speaker 10: especially if something is going to be as competitive as
Speaker 10: this environment, because it's going to be competitive, it is
Speaker 10: going to be competitive. But yeah, I want to speculate
Speaker 10: on it because I don't know. But we get out here,
Speaker 10: we'll find out. But I would just say you know
Speaker 10: off just at you answering the question, asking the question,
Speaker 10: My first thought would be if anybody not ready to go,
Speaker 10: you probably would want to sit them out, all right?
Speaker 4: So son me that that that leads me down this
Speaker 4: path because we've we've.
Speaker 3: Long heard the notion of are you hurt? Are you injured? Right?
Speaker 4: And for for guys who really need good showings for
Speaker 4: a culture that's really trying to be changed, Like where
Speaker 4: is the line at where you you have to start
Speaker 4: saying to guys all right, man, listen. I know that
Speaker 4: this is training camp. I know that we want guys
Speaker 4: ready for the season. But how do I how how
Speaker 4: does coach Schottenheimer change the narrative of the Cowboys being
Speaker 4: a tad bit soft when it comes to things like
Speaker 4: that and say.
Speaker 3: Hey, are you hurt, bro? Or are you injured?
Speaker 4: Is that a fine line that he has to play.
Speaker 4: Is that a button that he should be pushing with
Speaker 4: certain guys right now?
Speaker 3: Or should he play the back.
Speaker 4: Role and say, hey, I just want to get guys
Speaker 4: to get healthy so I can get to the season.
Speaker 10: Well, I think the first thing you have to do
Speaker 10: is listen to you know, your head athletic training and
Speaker 10: listen to jam Or and listen to those guys, and
Speaker 10: then I think you kind of go and figure out, Okay, hey,
Speaker 10: you're gonna be like Bill Parcels was because Parcels they
Speaker 10: have no time, had no time for that. So we'll see.
Speaker 10: And that's the great thing about as a coach gets
Speaker 10: put through these tests, we get to see who you are,
Speaker 10: and we get to see what your program and what
Speaker 10: you were about. And that's jesse great question. We'll find
Speaker 10: out later today.
Speaker 5: And I think I think a lot of that also,
Speaker 5: you know, as as we the Cowboys try to create
Speaker 5: a new culture, a new and a new winning attitude
Speaker 5: around around the team, I think that it boils down
Speaker 5: to the man too as well. Yeah, you know, sometimes
Speaker 5: you got to be man enough, or you got to
Speaker 5: be a player enough to pull your own card and
Speaker 5: be like, okay, look, I know I need to get
Speaker 5: some good reps out here, regardless if I'm if I'm hurt,
Speaker 5: and just everybody watching, everybody everybody's hurt.
Speaker 2: What's training camp starts? Everybody got something hurt?
Speaker 5: Right, it's snagging injury here, tear the airpool here, whatever
Speaker 5: the case may be.
Speaker 2: Injured?
Speaker 5: Is actually that that place where we say, okay, you
Speaker 5: cannot play. We expect you to play through some hurt.
Speaker 5: But if you're injured, then we we understand if you
Speaker 5: need to sit down. So just to clear that up
Speaker 5: for everybody out there that's watching who may not understand
Speaker 5: that the mentality of a football player, the mentality of
Speaker 5: the organization, you play through the hurt, but if you're injured,
Speaker 5: you sit it down.
Speaker 10: Great point, great way you made it there. And let
Speaker 10: me say that that's an off air conversation, the three
Speaker 10: of us. We'll tell you that.
Speaker 4: When you talk about, you know, this being the first
Speaker 4: joint practice under the the Brian Schottenheimer regime.
Speaker 3: What side of the ball from a.
Speaker 4: Coaching perspective are you looking for to come in and
Speaker 4: have the success? So you're looking for Ibra Flues and
Speaker 4: his defense to kind of go out there and show
Speaker 4: themselves worthy or are you saying, IY shoddy, here's your
Speaker 4: chance to go out there and show them that you're
Speaker 4: different offensively than what we've had here in the path, Like,
Speaker 4: what's what's side of the ball From a coordinator's perspective,
Speaker 4: are you looking to come out of this camp feeling
Speaker 4: better about.
Speaker 10: I need to see the offensive line. I need to
Speaker 10: see him running football shot. He's talked about want to
Speaker 10: be a running football team. We know they have some
Speaker 10: issues on defense, and one way to help out your
Speaker 10: defense is running the football shot. He spoken about that
Speaker 10: as well, So you know it starts up front in
Speaker 10: my opinion, you know, if you're going to talk about
Speaker 10: being a physical running football team, that we need to
Speaker 10: see it, and that means against the Rams, we need
Speaker 10: to see some paths popping and we need to sort
Speaker 10: of see some hole opening. And that to me is
Speaker 10: what I need to see. Because if you talked about
Speaker 10: it and that's your philosophy, well here we go, let's
Speaker 10: go do it. I guess the team that we know
Speaker 10: what they're going to do. We know is Shani baseball.
Speaker 10: We know what the Rams are going to.
Speaker 5: Bring definitely, And things that I heard Shoddy say earlier
Speaker 5: was that he planned on running several different formations.
Speaker 2: Wildcat.
Speaker 5: We're gonna have people coming running the ball besides lined
Speaker 5: up a quarterback, besides Dak at certain times. Six yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: Turban's gonna be all over the place in the backfield
Speaker 5: sometime taking snaps at quarterback two as well. So I'm
Speaker 5: i'm I'm definitely interested to see, you know, the different
Speaker 5: ways that this offense starts to attack people. And now
Speaker 5: adding George Pickings to the to the whole equation having
Speaker 5: a number another number one outside. You can't always load
Speaker 5: up the box. You ain't always be able to do it.
Speaker 5: So it's gonna be the Cowboys can actually get out there.
Speaker 5: And plus with the new with the depth chart coming
Speaker 5: out today, running backs being named, who Who's gonna be
Speaker 5: the started running back? Hey, we're gonna see some stuff
Speaker 5: out here coming later on today when this joint practice
Speaker 5: starts up, and just see how physical that offense is
Speaker 5: actually gonna be.
Speaker 10: Hey, look, he also said I'm gonna show a whole
Speaker 10: lot in the preciats, So you know, some of these
Speaker 10: things he talked about, we're just I have to wait
Speaker 10: till the regular season, need to get down and get
Speaker 10: in some of that stuff. So I think we're just
Speaker 10: gonna see a lot of basic stuff today from the
Speaker 10: Cowboys and stuff that they want to work on for themselves.
Speaker 4: New Schottheimer hates fights over under two and a half.
Speaker 3: Fights fights huh for fight for fight? All right? Four fights?
Speaker 4: So you have the over who do you have from
Speaker 4: the cowboys being the one who starts the first fight.
Speaker 10: Pauffman, Okay, Hoffman will get in one as a rock
Speaker 10: who is gonna get on somebody's nerves because he's a
Speaker 10: young rookie with firepower, and so maybe as a rock us,
Speaker 10: he'll probably be running a lot. He'll be in there
Speaker 10: on reps quicker than brock Hoffman. But uh, yeah, Mike,
Speaker 10: And then and.
Speaker 11: So are you talking team here, because I think you
Speaker 11: could see some guys get.
Speaker 10: Out of the individually, you know when they so it's it's.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I got four of them here, I got four.
Speaker 5: So let me ask you this. Uh saw our picture
Speaker 5: allow Collins. He looks like he's a little bit lighter
Speaker 5: than he normally played that in the past. How's he
Speaker 5: actually looking out there?
Speaker 10: Once again? I gotta see pass popping underwear Olympics. That look,
Speaker 10: it doesn't do me any good right now. So you know,
Speaker 10: let's see when we see some past pops you know today.
Speaker 11: And that's a great thing. It was sit around here
Speaker 11: with Nate new.
Speaker 10: Nate, Big Nate. What you're looking at, you know? And
Speaker 10: and and and then that That's how I'd like to
Speaker 10: judge a lot of these guys. Because Nate has just
Speaker 10: been spot on through the years about these guys and
Speaker 10: what he sees.
Speaker 3: My money's gonna be on Sam Williams.
Speaker 4: Sam Williams is going to get this in a kerfluffle
Speaker 4: at some point in time one of these periods, because
Speaker 4: he's gonna be he gonna be yapping because the two
Speaker 4: yappers from both sides, Sam Williams is going to be
Speaker 4: the yapper from the Cowboys defense Jared versus going to
Speaker 4: be the yapper from the from the Rams defense, so
Speaker 4: that those two guys are going to be throwings in
Speaker 4: the side of both offensive lines. But for me, I've
Speaker 4: got I got a couple of dollars on on Sam
Speaker 4: being the first one.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: That's the reason I asked about Loud because, like I
Speaker 5: know before, when he was here, he was definitely one
Speaker 5: of the Dak's biggest protectors as far as making sure
Speaker 5: that anything that was going on, nothing's happening after the whistle,
Speaker 5: making sure you know that DAK is always safe. And
Speaker 5: Dak requested him to come back here as well, so
Speaker 5: I know, you know what I'm saying. I'm looking to
Speaker 5: see if Lyle's gonna get out there and mix it up,
Speaker 5: getting back into the league right now.
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's not going to be starting right now, so
Speaker 10: you know he's not on the starting unit. So it's
Speaker 10: just like, you know, I think about a guy like
Speaker 10: him and Brock Coffins, man, like when did you get in?
Speaker 10: You know, when you get in and be able to
Speaker 10: get some of your some of your mix up there.
Speaker 4: Boy, don't we all wish we had some friends like
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott to give a word to get us back in.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get a job, all right.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 4: We appreciate your brother were getting up out of him. Man,
Speaker 4: stay safe, man, and and track down those things that
Speaker 4: you don't have answers to. Maybe we'll ask him on.
Speaker 2: Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 3: You know what's today? Tuesday, Tuesday, Thursday. Yes, yeah, my
Speaker 3: day's all running together.
Speaker 2: Don't mess me up.
Speaker 3: You're all right now. Appreciate your brother be safe, all right.
Speaker 4: So the Cowboys are getting ready for the joint practice
Speaker 4: with the Los Angeles Rams. We're giving you the depth chart,
Speaker 4: we give you some of the battles that we are
Speaker 4: looking at.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see.
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