1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, our number two OJ coming 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: in handy today. 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: No, it's a winner. It's coming. 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: Here we go, sore the sniffles, deal with it. It's 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 1: the Herd wherever you may be and however you may 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: be listening. Matt Hasselbeck's got all sorts of great stuff 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: and jamac an amazing world series. Fun Early window yesterdayy yeah, 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: late window was decent. 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: Now Bill's got to win. I'm wearing some Buffalo Bill's 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: tellers today. 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 4: Just for you cowboys tonight, you know, with their favorite 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 4: now by three and a half, with Kyler playing a role? 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: Is that a soft benching? By the way, what is 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: that kind of isn't it? Is he healthy? 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 5: Yeah? 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 3: I think he is. I thought he was a first 24 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: as quarterback. 25 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: All right, here we go on Monday. Colin Wright, Colin 26 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: Wrong plenty of both. Where Colin was right, I said, 27 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: when Sam Donald gets drafted, I said, he's not Andrew Luck, 28 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: but he's like eighty eighty five percent of Andrew Luck. Tough, athletic, 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: big arm. PFF has him number one third in the 30 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: passer rating. Nobody can work with a Jets. That's Siberia. 31 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers looked one hundred years old with the Jets. 32 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: Look at him now. The bottom line is Sam Donald 33 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: needed a better fit. He's just too damn talented to 34 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: not make it in this league. And he was sixteen 35 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: for sixteen in the first half. I said, not Andrew Luck, 36 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: but his comp is somewhere close to Andrew Luck, and it. 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: Looks like it. Where Colin was wrong, I. 38 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: Thought Kansas City was the best team in the league. 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: But it's weird when these two teams play. I feel 40 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: like what happened in the game. Before the game, they're 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: playing ten times, they've met, they're five and five, gave 42 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: up four hundred yards, could not protect mahomes. It felt 43 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: like from the first series on, Buffalo had better energy, better. 44 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: Focus, and a better game plan. 45 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: That's all. 46 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: Okay, I've been saying this. 47 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: Stop telling me about the Steelers defense. Who cares, it's 48 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. They can't run the ball, the offensive line, 49 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: pass protections rated very mid. Everybody wants to tell me 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: about this defense. This team's going as far as Aaron 51 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: Rodgers is going to take him. Nine different guys caught 52 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: the ball tied for third and touchdown passes. I'm telling you, 53 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: he has not played this well in my opinion, since 54 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: his MVP season. He is moving way way better than 55 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: he did in New York. This team is Aaron Rodgers. 56 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: It's not Tomlin, it's not the defense. It's Aaron and 57 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: right now he's playing like a top ten. 58 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: Quarterback where Colin was raw. 59 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: I love Matt Lafleur, but this team in Green Bay 60 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: has no identity, and that's on the coach. They're fifth 61 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: in rushing attempts, but twenty fourth in yards per carry. 62 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: They want to run, they're not good at it, and 63 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: now Tucker Craft's. 64 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 3: Gone for the year. 65 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: I always worry about teams and when they don't have 66 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: an identity, They've just got a bunch of good players. 67 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: I mean they've lost to Cleveland, Carolina and ty Dallas. 68 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: This isn't a lack of talent, it's a lack of 69 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: knowing what they are and that's hard to create, sometimes 70 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: harder to maintain. 71 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: But I do. 72 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: Feel like the compass is off and Green Bay's offense 73 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: is a little lost right now. 74 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: Where Colin was right. 75 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: I said this before Game six and seven. Yoshi is 76 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: worth every penny because the Dodgers starters there was a 77 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: lot of injury. So he started thirty five games this year. Yeah, 78 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: I think the Dodgers starter, their ace is worth three 79 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 1: hundred twenty five million dollars. He's an unbelievable talent, four 80 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: and known the World Series, and everybody gets worked up 81 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: with all the money the Dodgers have, but they're starting 82 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: pitching this year. I mean they had injuries everywhere Glass 83 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: now Snell. So the difference between thirty five million, you 84 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: go four and O in a World Series and went 85 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: back to back. He has mostly paid for himself. Where 86 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: Colin was right, Howie Roseman GM and the Eagles does 87 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: it again. He just landed Jalen Phillip from Miami, good 88 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: edge rusher for a third round pick. Now he's a 89 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: pending free agent. If he leaves, they'll get a compensatory 90 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: third round pick. So I've said for years aggressive wins 91 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: in sports, and everybody's talking about the Philadelphia offense. They're 92 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: twenty third in sacks. This is what separates Philadelphia from 93 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: a lot of the Cincin. 94 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: Of the world. They are willing. 95 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: They are on call three hundred and sixty five days 96 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: a year to make a deal. And this is a 97 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: deal the day before the deadline, and it solves an 98 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: issue that nobody's talking about. You better get the stafford 99 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: if you want to beat him, You better get to 100 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: golf if you want to beat him. Philly Howie Roseman 101 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: goes out and makes a deal where Colin was raw. 102 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: I like the commander's direction. I had him winning last night. 103 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: I had him as a playoff team. I keep waiting 104 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: for the juice and they don't have it. One of 105 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: the things that worried me. They're the oldest roster in 106 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: the league, the opposite of Seattle or Green Bay. Old 107 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: rosters get beat up. They're just not very good and 108 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: they're not deep. I think they're much more in a 109 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: rebuild than they wanted to admit coming into the season. 110 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: And I like them based on the hype some confirmation bias. 111 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: They're not a very good. 112 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: Team where Colin was right. 113 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: I've always loved the Miami Hurricanes, but they're not a 114 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: national brand. And Mario christabal I said earlier this year, 115 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't trust Carson Back. I didn't 116 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: know if I trusted him. Mario Christoval is four and 117 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: eleven in November and later in Miami, and they lost 118 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: again this weekend, this time to SMU Listen. They have 119 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: a small fan base, no home field advantage. If you're 120 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: gonna win national championships, those late season games playing at 121 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: home matters. I love watching them play. But christaball at Oregon, 122 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: his teams were wildly inconsistent, often struggled as favorites or 123 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: near favorites on the road, and this was a. 124 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: Clunker where Colin was right. 125 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: Finally, the Philadelphia seventy six ers are five and one 126 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: and not building around Joe lmb. I think I've been 127 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: on this for three years. You can't build a franchise 128 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: around an often injured big. Instead Tyrese Maxi, who J 129 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: Mack would confirm. I said it three years ago. This 130 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: guy is gonna be a one. He's averaging thirty four 131 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: a game. VJ Edgecombe on fire. They are led by 132 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: their back court. And by the way, the Warriors had 133 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: a pretty good dynasty led by Theirs. 134 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: I never bought into Embiid. 135 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: He didn't deliver in the playoffs, he was off an injured, 136 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: he struggled even fitting in with the Olympic team. I 137 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: preached it for years. He can be a great player, 138 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: he can't be the centerpiece of a championship team. Where 139 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: Colin was right, where Colin was wrong on a Monday. 140 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: And with that, Matt Hasselback's got a lot to chew on. 141 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: He's bringing us up to date in his starts. You know, 142 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: I said this about the Bills and the Chiefs played 143 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: ten times. 144 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: It's five and five. We all know the history. 145 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: But that was a classic example of they go back 146 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: and forth. What was the last game? What's this game? 147 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: I just thought, scheme juice energy. It just felt like 148 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: Buffalo's night, did it not? 149 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 6: Yeah? 150 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: It did? 151 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 7: And for whatever reason, this matchup, you know, Buffalo seems 152 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 7: to win all the games in the regular season. In 153 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 7: the second time around in the playoffs, the Chiefs seemed 154 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 7: to win. It reminds me a little bit of what 155 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 7: we did when I was in Seattle or when I 156 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 7: was with the Indianapolis Cold. So I think we did 157 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 7: a great job of this, and I think the Chiefs 158 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 7: do a good job of this. You kind of have 159 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 7: a post game action plan, and so a lot of times, 160 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 7: like after a game. 161 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 5: You just say, hey, let's just flush that. Move on. 162 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 7: We're on to Cincinnati quote unquote, right. And what we 163 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 7: did is like we would actually spend some time on 164 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 7: Monday mornings and we'd say, okay, let's talk about what 165 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 7: we would have done differently last night, and you'd like 166 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 7: list it all out, the good, the bad, the ugly, 167 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 7: all the stuff. 168 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 5: The stuff that gets you be everything. 169 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 7: And then you know, you play like six or seven 170 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 7: weeks or eight weeks or nine weeks, and you come 171 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 7: back to that action plan of like, hey, what did 172 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 7: we say the morning after, like, hey, this we should 173 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 7: have attacked number or whatever whatever, you know, we should 174 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 7: have ran the ball more, Hey we got too cute 175 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 7: in the red zone. 176 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 5: Hey protection first, Like what, don't let this guy be 177 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 5: a game wrecker? 178 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 7: And you know, I think that those were two things 179 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 7: that we did when I was playing that we didn't 180 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 7: do it on every team that I was at, and 181 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 7: I wish we did, And it feels to me that 182 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 7: Kansas City is always always different second time around. 183 00:08:55,080 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so all I said this, never come play in 184 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: this league. 185 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: Winning ugly on the road. 186 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: And the Bears are Okay, they would have lost that 187 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: game a year ago. They've blocked a kick by the Raiders, 188 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: they got lucky in a jayde Daniels fumble. I mean, 189 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: they are winning ugly. I don't love it. 190 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 3: It's funny. Their offense is ranked fourth. 191 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: So they've got skilled, They've got the coach, Caleb still 192 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: sometimes with accuracy. Now, I will say this, he does 193 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: not throw picks. And he's cut his saxon half. I 194 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: don't know if that's him or Ben, but I said 195 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: going into the year, I said, Matt, don't get paralyzed 196 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: by the record. They've got to cut the saxon half. 197 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: And Caleb's also never been a big interception guy. Wasn't 198 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: in high school, wasn't it usc He's not in the 199 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: end even last year he had six. They're getting better, 200 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: But as I watched them, I'm like, I wish it 201 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: was a little quicker. 202 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: What do you see? 203 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 5: Well, I'm sold on. 204 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 7: Ben Johnson, like I think he's the real deal. Sometimes 205 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 7: when you're a good play caller, a good coordinator, It 206 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 7: doesn't mean you're going to be a good head coach. 207 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 7: And you said, like Caleb's cut his sex and half. 208 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 7: He's done way better than that. I mean, yesterday he 209 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 7: was sicked two times. One was on him one hundred percent. 210 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 7: The other one didn't hurt him, it was you know, 211 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 7: we have a field goal in the bank, like just 212 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 7: protect the ball. I think they're creative, they're fun, they're 213 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 7: dangerous Ben Johnson doing everything that he did in Detroit. 214 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 7: But at the same time, they're physical. You know, they 215 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 7: bring in Azzie Trapillo as an extra. You know, he's 216 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 7: a jumbo tight end. He's in an offensive lineman for 217 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 7: the good hard play action shot plays. And then it's 218 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 7: like third and manageable. The whole day, it's like third 219 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 7: and five or less. So Caleb's getting the ball out 220 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 7: on time and on rhythm. And so while we always 221 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 7: show the highlights of like the trick plays, I think 222 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 7: the boring stuff where Caleb's really improved is just like 223 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 7: you're saying, protecting the ball, not taking sacks, helping out 224 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 7: the defense, complimentary football. And then just like how stoic 225 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 7: Ben Johnson is the whole time is really remarkable. And 226 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 7: then on that Loveland touchdown at the end of the 227 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 7: game when Cincinnati was allergic to tackling, They're like, the 228 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 7: first guy in the end zone is Ben Johnson celebrating 229 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 7: like John Travolta or something on the dance floor? It was, 230 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 7: It's really cool. And you see him in the locker 231 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 7: room that way. I think, I think the future is 232 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 7: right for Chicago. 233 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting so many of these coordinators are 234 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: brilliant as the vice president. They're brilliant as the two, 235 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: and then they unravel as the one. I wonder what 236 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: it is. It's you know, you were in this league. 237 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: It's not brain power, but some guys are just naturally 238 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: comfortable in front of men and leading. By the way, 239 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: a lot of guys are not comfortable a relinquishing responsibility. 240 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: I remember talking to Lane Kevin about this years ago. 241 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: Some guys want to be on the headset. Is there 242 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: a secret sauce that if you had to go back 243 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: in your career on coordinators that make great great head coaches. 244 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: Is it a personality thing or a leadership thing. 245 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 7: Well, it's a lot of things, right, and I think 246 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 7: Ben Johnson didn't jump into it too early. He could 247 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 7: have been a head coach a long time ago, and 248 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 7: he said, no, I'm not ready. 249 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 5: I want to stick it out here in Detroit. 250 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 7: We're working on something special and some of it is 251 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 7: building your staff, building the people around you. 252 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 5: But no doubt there's an IT factor in my career. 253 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 7: I head coaches where early on they might have been 254 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 7: a GA quality control coach, an assistant position coach. They 255 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 7: get up in front of the room and like, man, 256 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 7: they just commanded the room. Yeah, there's something special about 257 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 7: this guy, a confidence, and like, yeah. 258 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 5: No, you're that guy, as opposed to the guy that's like, 259 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 5: you know, the little professor guy in the back room, 260 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 5: that like, hey, I appreciate your scheme, but I don't 261 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 5: know if you're commanding the locker room. 262 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 263 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 8: No that. 264 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: We had Ben Johnson on the show very early and 265 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: he had a McVay quality. It's just a guy that 266 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: stood up, looked in the eye, handsome guy, had a 267 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: command of the room. And to your point, so I 268 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: was saying, this is Seattle. It doesn't happen very often. 269 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: Standalone game and the home team gets pushed. 270 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 3: Around for three hours. 271 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: I look around the NFC, I think Seattle matches up 272 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: with everybody, including Philadelphia. I mean, is there a part 273 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: of Seattle they could improve? Is there a hole in 274 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: this team that you see? 275 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 5: Well, well, for sure. 276 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 7: I mean every team has things they need to work on, 277 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 7: you know. I think the Seahawks are so good in 278 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 7: so many errors the areas the NFC. 279 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 5: Is very competitive though. 280 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 7: I think one of the best things they do is 281 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 7: that they are they don't flinch on the road, Like 282 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 7: they're almost better on the road than they are at. 283 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 5: Home, which is a total head scratcher. 284 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 7: But listen, JSN Sam Donald, those are two of the 285 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 7: best players in the game right now. They're protecting Sam 286 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 7: Donald because of like their heavy play action. They're peering 287 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 7: like they're going to run the ball. I think their 288 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 7: kryptonite might be you have to actually be able to 289 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 7: run the ball when they know that you're going to 290 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 7: run the ball. Everything that they're doing right now is 291 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 7: check with me. 292 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 5: It's very very smart. 293 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 7: Too many in the box, we're going to throw it, 294 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 7: light box, we're going to run it. The best teams, 295 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 7: you're able to run it when the defense knows you 296 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 7: you're going to run it. And I think that, you know, 297 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 7: it's a critique I guess. But if you're talking about. 298 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 5: Trying to be the one seed or trying to go 299 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 5: up and win the hoist to Lombardy, that's the kind 300 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 5: of stuff you got to be able to do. 301 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: So I love bo Nicks. He's on a six game heater. 302 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: He's great in the fourth quarter, and everybody he tells 303 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: me he's no good. JJ McCarthy has his third start, 304 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to say, Wow, he's unbelievable. I said earlier. 305 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: It reminded me of the Michigan JJ McCarthy. The defense 306 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: set the tone. I love the head coach, and they 307 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: asked him to make one or two huge throws in 308 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: the second half, and he was very good on script 309 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: like Michigan. But if you go second, third, and fourth quarter, 310 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: he had a passer writing of thirty eight. So I'm 311 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: not going to judge him. It's his third start. But 312 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: my take is my concern was when he came out 313 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: of Michigan is boy, they don't ask him to do much. 314 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: Harbaugh's great, the old line's great, the defense is great, 315 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: they're running to close the games out. He never trails 316 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: and he makes one big play. I feel like that's 317 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: kind of what I saw yesterday or am I under 318 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: is am I being underwhelmed? Did you see more? 319 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 6: Now? 320 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 7: He's a young player and it was a gritty performance. 321 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 7: He kind of reminds me of myself though early in 322 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 7: my career the training wheels were on. 323 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 5: I think he completed fourteen passes. 324 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 7: He had two nice touchdown passes in one bad interception. 325 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 7: But it's a it's a little bit like, hey, we're 326 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 7: just gonna take it slow. 327 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 5: With you, you know. I think he passed for eight first 328 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 5: downs yesterday. 329 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 7: Uh, and so like they're gonna need more from him, 330 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 7: but he's a young player coming off of injury, and I. 331 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 5: Think just getting used to the speed of the game. 332 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 5: They like the potential. 333 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 7: Unfortunately for him and for the Vikings, they could have 334 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 7: had Sam Darnold, they could have had Daniel Jones, they 335 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 7: could have had Aaron Rodgers. 336 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 5: And so the microscope and the scrutiny is. 337 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: Going to be high. 338 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 7: The guys in your draft class are doing really, really well, 339 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 7: So you're gonna have to grow up really quick. I 340 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 7: think that, you know, stacking these gritty performances in these games, uh, 341 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 7: will go a long way for earning respect in the 342 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 7: locker room. And then I think with the coaching staff, 343 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 7: they're gonna give you a little bit more and a 344 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 7: little bit more and a little bit more, and eventually 345 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 7: they're gonna put You're gonna have to put the team 346 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 7: on your back in. 347 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 5: A Justin Herbert kind of way, and uh, and that'll come. 348 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 7: But but right now, no, it's you know, all the 349 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 7: same stuff we're talking about with Caleb, you know, like 350 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 7: you got to kind of you got to grow, and 351 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 7: you got to not take sacks, and you got to 352 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 7: protect the football and and those types of things. 353 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: So creating an identity is hard, but it's essential, and 354 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: sometimes it's harder to maintain it. I feel like Green 355 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: Bay is off, the compasses off. They want to run it, 356 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: but they're not terribly effective. They trust Jordan Love mostly 357 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: but not entirely. Reid's been banged up now, Kraft is out. 358 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: When I watch them, like I watched the Rams, I 359 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: know exactly what they're trying to do. When I watch 360 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: the Niners with Christian McCaffrey, I don't even care about 361 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback. I know exactly what they are. Same with Baltimore. 362 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: I watch the Packers. What are they offensively? Because I 363 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: can't figure it. 364 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 5: Out they're really good. They're just young, Colin, they're young. 365 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 7: It was a trap game, like the definition of a 366 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 7: trap game, like and it happened. They were literally last 367 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 7: week we were talking about they're the best team in 368 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 7: the in the NFC. 369 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 5: You know, they took it to Aaron Rodgers. 370 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 7: They like performed, Jordan loves as cool as a cucumber, 371 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 7: like all the stuff. 372 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 5: And they go into Carolina and they played like a 373 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 5: young team. And listen, you're gonna make mistakes in the NFL. 374 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 7: These guys are human. This isn't college football. Every game 375 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 7: is a tough game. That's why you celebrate any win 376 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 7: that you have. But when guys go down, you know 377 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 7: they lost craft in the game. Sometimes it can like 378 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 7: be like a little bit of an energy vampire suck 379 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 7: on the on the sideline there, because like, man, we're 380 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 7: thinking about our brother, We're not focused on the game. 381 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 5: You're gonna make mistakes. 382 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 7: In the course of a career and the course of 383 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 7: a season, make new mistakes. If you're the Green Bay Packers, 384 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 7: you need to learn from this mistake. When you're in 385 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 7: a situation like this again, you can't make this mistake again. 386 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 7: I think they took this team lightly. I think Carolina 387 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 7: came in and they were professional about it. Green Bay 388 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 7: I learned from this and and and you know, for them, 389 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 7: you know, hopefully they're a lot better for it, because 390 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 7: really the one seed was there for them never. 391 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 5: But now now the division is is very very tight, 392 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 5: so you know, look out. 393 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 7: I still like this team, though I'm not giving up 394 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 7: on them. 395 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 5: They just got to learn from it. 396 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: Finally, you are at one point an old quarterback. It 397 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: is remarkable to watch Darnold and Aaron Rodgers outside of 398 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: the Jets. I said, they don't run the ball in Pittsburgh. 399 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: The defense was good yesterday, but it's got holes all 400 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: over it. I just I watch Aaron and I'm like, 401 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: I thought it was a one. I said, you should 402 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: go to the Vikings or retire. Pittsburgh's terrible in offense. 403 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: Whether he's great or not, I do feel like there 404 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: is something to be said about loving your job, loving 405 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: the environment, and playing a little bit with joy. I 406 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: feel like Aaron's like happy erin and there's kind of 407 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: two errands. But when I watch him, I'm like, I 408 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: didn't think he had much left in the tank, and 409 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, he should play again. This should be 410 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: he should he should be a two off and win 411 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: a playoff game. Are you surprised a little bit? Look 412 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: there's a little fout in the youth in Pittsburgh. 413 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 7: Well i think a little bit surprised, But I'm not 414 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 7: surprised that it's working so well with Mike Tomlin and 415 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 7: with Arthur Smith. I'm really not in the leadership and 416 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 7: the you know, like the I mean, he can still 417 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 7: sling it, he can still throw the ball. He's very 418 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 7: impressive that way. Their division's not very good. 419 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 5: Like I think we thought Cincinnati was going to be better. 420 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 7: I think we thought Baltimore is going to be better. 421 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 7: But as it sits right now, I mean, Pittsburgh's in 422 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 7: position to host a playoff game, and their defense came 423 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 7: alive creating turnovers. I just think that there's there's still 424 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 7: a lot of room for improvement for the Pittsburgh Steelers. 425 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 7: He won by seven and the Colts had like six turnovers, 426 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 7: So like, you got to find ways to be more dominant. 427 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 5: I'd like to see them run the ball more. 428 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 7: I'd like to see them run the ball more when 429 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 7: they're down in the tight red zone, not rely on 430 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 7: you know, the Aaron Rodgers, DK Metcalf show go line 431 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 7: fades or slands like, there's more to like there. We 432 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 7: need consistency that from that defense, you know, I think 433 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 7: they could get it. I actually like the fit. I 434 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 7: like that Aaron Rodgers a future Hall of famers kind 435 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 7: of with a NFL royalty type organization. 436 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 5: I think it's great for football. 437 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 7: But I think my big question is like can Baltimore 438 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 7: jump back into this mix if Pittsburgh falters, Like, can 439 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 7: somebody else compete with them? 440 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 5: Or they just going to run away with with this division. 441 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: I want to circle back final question. I think sometimes 442 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: when you win a game, it becomes instructive. Like if 443 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: I was Pittsburgh, I consider trade deadline running back. I 444 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: think Buffalo needs another wide out. I do wonder when 445 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: you're a very good team, you're running the football, You've 446 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: got a very close locker room with Josh Allen, and 447 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 1: all of a sudden we bring in a wide receiver, 448 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: would you be concerned Because receivers come you know that 449 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: of all the positions, they you know they're on an island. 450 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: You get very unique personalities. I think Buffalo needs another. 451 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: I mean that game was twenty eight, twenty one in 452 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: Kansas City had the ball and Mahomes was awful and 453 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: Buffalo dominates time possession. They're at home perfect in the 454 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: red zone, won the turnover battle. Kansas City was going 455 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: in for the tie. I think they need to add 456 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: a little icing to the cake. Would you do it 457 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 1: with the worry that it could disrupt harmony or chemistry? 458 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 5: I would do it. And here's why. 459 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 7: You know, when when I entered the NFL, I was 460 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 7: with the Green Bay Packers, Mike Hombrian's head coach. 461 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 5: They're coming off of two consecutive Super Bowl and. 462 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 7: He was very, very clear, this organization will always search 463 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 7: the planet for anyone that we think can make our 464 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 7: team better. So like, don't look at who you're competing 465 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 7: with in the locker room, because we're searching the planet. 466 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 7: And if we ever bring somebody in, it's because we 467 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 7: are trying to hoist the Lombardi. And as a player, 468 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 7: even though I was one of the guys that like 469 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 7: was now replaceable, I loved it. It just felt like, Hey, 470 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 7: this organization is all the way in, all the way in, 471 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 7: and therefore I'm going to be all the way in, 472 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 7: and I better be all the way in or I'm 473 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 7: going to get replaced myself. I like when it as 474 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 7: a player, I don't mind the mindset at all. I 475 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 7: really don't, and you know, like it might hurt somebody's feelings, 476 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 7: but for the for the entire locker room, I think 477 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 7: it's a great thing. 478 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 5: Sends a message, and I think it's a really good message. 479 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: Matt hasselback eighteen years in the NFL. He is our 480 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: Monday guest every Monday during the football season and beyond. 481 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: As always Matt, thank you, see you call. Yeah, it's 482 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: I just it's one of those things where I'm sitting 483 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: there watching that game last night and I'm like, Kansas 484 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: City's going. 485 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 3: For the tie? 486 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: How they got I mean, Mahomes got hit fifteen times? 487 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: How are they going for the tie? 488 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,239 Speaker 4: I'm surprised you haven't played that well. They didn't have 489 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 4: Isaiah Pacheco. You know, it's always like, hey, no Zave, 490 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 4: you're worthy, No Rashi, right, they were fully formed last night. 491 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 4: They just didn't look great when they're not playing the 492 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 4: dumpster Fire Raiders or Marcus Mariota and the Commanders, who 493 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 4: look like a joke. 494 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 3: Now they've now loft on the road to the. 495 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 4: Bills and the Jags and three weeks ago you didn't 496 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 4: have the bills in the hurt hierarchy. 497 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 6: Did you. 498 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 4: It's a slight very interesting how things are shifting the sands. 499 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 3: I'm in the hurd hierarchy tomorrow. Everybody's waiting. How far 500 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 3: do you drop? The chiefs? Are they eight nine? What 501 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: are we doing? Well, that's not a one that's obvious. Well, 502 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 3: rams are good. Do that. It's like four weeks in 503 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 3: a row. Rams are broncos. 504 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 4: Basically you have to do admit you love it that 505 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: all your guys are thriving your DORONLD. 506 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 3: Chargers darn all of her their career years. It's crazy. 507 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: All right, We take a break. We are live The 508 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: Herd in Los Angeles. 509 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: One more Herd. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, 510 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search Herd 511 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 2: to listen live or on demand whenever you like. 512 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 9: Hey, it's Rob Parker and Calvin Washington from The Odd 513 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 9: Couple on Fox Sports Radio and in addition to hearing 514 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 9: us live weeknights from seven to ten pm Eastern on 515 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 9: Fox Sports Radio, we are excited to announce brand new 516 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 9: YouTube channel for the show That's Right You can now 517 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 9: watch the Odd Couple live on YouTube every day. All 518 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 9: you gotta do search Odd Couple FSR on YouTube again YouTube, 519 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 9: just search Odd Couple FSR. Check us out on YouTube 520 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 9: and subscribe. 521 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: It does feel like the Kansas City Chiefs a little 522 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: lobbily today. Denver's now seven and two and get they 523 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: get two home games and a b They are on fire. 524 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 4: In the fourth though, Denver got lucky that C. J. 525 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 4: Stroud got knocked the hell out. I mean we didn't 526 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 4: even get into it that. I thought that was a 527 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 4: dirty hit. But Stroud's probably gonna be out for a minute. 528 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 4: He looked he was down for the count. And then 529 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 4: of course Davis Mills, come on, he's not beating the Broncos. 530 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 4: But yeah, AFC keep an eye on Lamar Jackson Colin. 531 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 3: There's just starting to round into form and they're healthy. 532 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 533 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 3: Who was Jmack with the news? 534 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 2: No, turn on the news. This is the herd Line news. 535 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 3: Hey, you know what it's time to talk about the 536 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers. Yes it is. 537 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 4: They got a nice win over the Colts yesterday twenty 538 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 4: seven to twenty. Against the Mighty Colts. There was some 539 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin voodoo in play. Obviously you had the punt 540 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 4: muff early by the Colt and then you had Daniel 541 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 4: Jones vomiting all over himself. Mike Tomlin was asked about 542 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh defense turning things around, and this is what 543 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 4: the man does. 544 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 6: This is the fire and between Drake and wine and 545 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 6: squashing grapes. In this business, it's nothing dramatic. A couple 546 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 6: of plays here and there, it might have been different 547 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 6: last week. We don't give a fifty nine yard ball 548 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 6: to thirty three yard ball. We don't let him convert 549 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 6: on fourth to one in the flat, for example, in 550 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 6: the third quarter. That's football at this level. It's a 551 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 6: limited number of plays or sequences that can really change 552 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 6: the trajectory of an outcome. We're still the same group 553 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 6: that's stunk it up last week. 554 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: I love that guy. No, he's right. 555 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: Really, the key has been and there are two big 556 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: wins Colts in New England. They got eleven takeaways, so 557 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: that's just that's like, I mean again, you get credit 558 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: for it, but Drake May is not turning it over 559 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: that many times when they play again. I think this 560 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 1: team comes down to really Aaron Rodgers keeping them up 561 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: right they're not running the ball particularly well. 562 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 4: I'll give some props to the Steelers before I puncture 563 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 4: you're Aaron Rodgers narrative, because I know you're sick. I 564 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 4: don't want to hammer your two quickly. So the Steelers 565 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 4: defense did have five sacks. I saw the eighteen quarterback 566 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 4: pressures they got after Daniel Jones. 567 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: He looked like New York Giants. 568 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, right, we would agree, just lack of awareness 569 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: in the pocket. 570 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 3: He was terrible. 571 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 4: But what I saw from the Colts when they don't 572 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 4: have Jonathan Taylor getting loose, that's the difference. Daniel Jones 573 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 4: throwing fifty times. 574 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, Daniel. 575 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: First of all, I'll let Josh Allen throw fifty, but 576 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: even Buffalo has been like, we don't want you. I 577 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: think the magic number to me the elite guys in 578 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: the league. I'll let you throw at thirty five. Most 579 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: guys in this league are better at twenty eight, twenty Yeah, 580 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: twenty five, and then some guys Jalen Hurts maybe better 581 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: at twenty three. But fifty times on the road with TJ. 582 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: Watt Is, it's a losing wrestle. 583 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 4: Real quick on Aaron Rodgers, Okay, the Pittsburgh Steelers offense. 584 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 4: Colin had a whopping two hundred and twenty five yards. 585 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 4: They were outgained by about a buck fifty three point seven. 586 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 3: Yards for play. 587 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 4: And how's this stat Aaron Rodgers attempted three passes more 588 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 4: than ten yards down the field. 589 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 3: That's it. The whole game. 590 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 4: It was basically like, oh my gosh, I'm under pressure 591 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 4: because Indy was blitzing all afternoon. 592 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 3: Right, I'm just dumping it. DK Metcalf was a non 593 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: factory Well, two catches for six yards. 594 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: Again, I'm not that it doesn't bother me much. I 595 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: don't think they're a deep ball team. I don't. I 596 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: think they're like I think Seattle. First of all, Arroya 597 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: the tight end. They got the rookie tight end. That 598 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: dude runs like a receiver. JS is an absolute deep threat. 599 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: How about this other rookie out of Colorado State. I mean, 600 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm telling you Seattle that team. And by the way, 601 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: Donald told is a great deep ball and Darnald, unlike Aaron, 602 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: is in his athletic prime and can get loose and 603 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: extend the pocket. Seattle's a deep ball team. Tampa with 604 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, he always a great ball. That is a 605 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: deep ball team. Not everybody is. I don't think this 606 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: team is built to throw the deep ball. I think 607 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: they are a twelve yard and under. I think they 608 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: need turnovers to win, which is probably gonna limit them 609 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: in the playoffs because the great quarterbacks don't turn it 610 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: off sustainable. 611 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 4: It seems like they're built around the tight ends. Now 612 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 4: a lot the Yes Washington who we love, coming. 613 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: Out of it with a blocking tied end out of Georgia. 614 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 4: He's like six seven, you know, six to seven had 615 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 4: to say it. Essentially, they are a just like in 616 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 4: a box. They play short everything. I just don't think 617 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 4: it's sustainable. 618 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 3: They were out in those two figuos Patriots and Colts. 619 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 3: They were out gained by over one hundred yards. 620 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: No, No, the Steelers, they'll go as far as Aaron's gonna 621 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: get them. They're not a multiple playoff win team. There's 622 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: about four. I mean Philadelphia Rams could win multiple playoff games. 623 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 3: I don't know that they're off. I don't you you're sure. 624 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: They're going to No. 625 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: I think Baltimore is gonna win the division. 626 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 3: I agree. 627 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: I think Baltimore's style of play is sustainable. 628 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 4: So we have Patriots, Bills, Baltimore, Denver Chargers. 629 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, those are all teams capable of winning more 630 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 3: than one. 631 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 4: And then we've got the Colts. They're in they're winning 632 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 4: their division. What about the Jags. 633 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think the Colts. I mean, 634 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones win two playoff games. I think you got 635 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: to watch the Chargers. This Joe alt injury. 636 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 4: Will see if it's surgery. They could be cooked. And 637 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 4: you know I love the Charges. All right, let's move 638 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 4: on to the forty nine ers. We didn't talk a 639 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 4: lot about this when you had this. 640 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 3: You nailed it. 641 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 4: Niners, roll over the Giants. The weird thing is a 642 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 4: lot of people were expecting Rock Purdy to play most 643 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 4: of the week. They're like, oh, this will be the 644 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 4: week he comes back. They went with Mac Jones following 645 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: a win. Shanahan admitted party wasn't that close to a return. 646 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: What the. 647 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 10: Nothing changes Mac in that way, And you know it's 648 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 10: you know, we're trying to ease Brock out there and 649 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 10: to practice stuff. But I mean, anytime you're dealing with 650 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 10: this turf toe, it's something that probably won't. 651 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: Fully go away all year. 652 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 10: You know, it's regardless of when he comes back, he's 653 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 10: gonna always have to deal with it a little bit. 654 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 10: Especially the people you talk to have gone through turf toe. 655 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 10: So it's truly about just assess and when's the best 656 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 10: time to come back that you have to deal with 657 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 10: at the least, and it's a little bit of a 658 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 10: tricky decision. 659 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: I don't think this team is led by the quarterback. 660 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: I think they're old school. I think they're led by 661 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey had a half thir yard gift. 662 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: Problem is you see how many touches he had thirty 663 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 3: three touches in a blowout? What are we doing? I 664 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: don't don't have anything else. I love him in fantasy. 665 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 3: He's on my team. He's really good. No, I mean 666 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 3: Brian Robinson flashed a little bit. He had a couple 667 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: of nice runs fifty three yards on five. 668 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: Care don't even be I don't care who starts at quarterback. 669 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: I think Mac and Perty or a wash. I think 670 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: Mac throws a better ball. Perty's more mobile. I think 671 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: this team is all about McCaffrey. If you go look 672 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: at he had the most catches, he had the most rushing, 673 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: he had the most He's it's a McCaffrey let offense. 674 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 4: So the question is, why are the forty nine ers 675 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 4: not giving us the real story on Brock. 676 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 3: Purty, Ricky Piersoll, what is his knee injury? 677 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 4: He's been out for six weeks, Brandon Ayuk, it's been 678 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 4: over a year, Colin. At some point the league's got 679 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 4: to step it and be like, guys, just be truthful. 680 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 4: Are they coming back or not? 681 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: Because I can't make them a super Bowl team with 682 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 3: this unit. By the way, Michael Williams, the. 683 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 4: Guy they got out of Georgia the ed rusher injury, 684 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 4: sounds like he's done. 685 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 3: So their top three edg rushers are now. 686 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: Well, No, it's before the season. I took the Rams 687 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: on the Seahawks to make the playoffs. Not there, and 688 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: I said, old and brittle Seahawks and Rams are young niners. 689 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: Age, isn't it. 690 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: They've they've got to have another big draft this year 691 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: because they've got too many older players. 692 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 3: They were wet. 693 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: They host the Rams this week in a rematch. Rams 694 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 4: are favored. 695 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: I think I saw two and a half or three 696 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 3: and a half in San Fra. Rams right now are 697 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 3: the better team healthy? 698 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 4: Does own McVeigh I know mcveigh's started to claw back 699 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 4: last year, but that's one of the games of the 700 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 4: week for sure. 701 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 3: Final story calling, let's go to Monday night football. There's 702 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: a lot happening right now. 703 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 4: So I wanted to make this about Kyler Murray and 704 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 4: could they trade him in the offseason. He seems to 705 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 4: be healthy. But it's Jacoby Brissett starting, and all the 706 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 4: reporters say, yeah, Kyler Murray will have a role. 707 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: Your franchise quarterback will have a role. 708 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 4: Here's the kicker. About an hour ago, this big story drops. 709 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Senior, the father of the young receiver on 710 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 4: the Cardinals, spoke about the state of the Cardinals. It's 711 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 4: very hard for me to watch this offense. I think 712 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: that's just peacefully put without pointing fingers or anything. 713 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 3: I'm giving you a professional eye. I can't deal with it. 714 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 4: He basically throws the OC of the Cardinals under the 715 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 4: bus for not getting his on the ball, the Kyler 716 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 4: Murray out of shotgun every snap. 717 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it is a bad story to drop on 718 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 3: game day. It's been a bad. 719 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: Year for smaller quarterbacks. Tua Ua, Kyler Murray, Rock Purdy 720 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: Rock party for the smaller quarterbacks. It's been a rough year, 721 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: so give. 722 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: Me a minute here on Kyler Murray. 723 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 4: And let's say the Cardinals say we're open for business, 724 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 4: we're taking in offers. 725 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: I would you know Dome or warm Weather? He's talented. Again, 726 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think the big money is done, 727 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: the big opportunities are over. I don't think the top teams, 728 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: but there's always six desperate teams. And the college quarterbacks 729 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: I've watched are all pretty mid so okay. 730 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 4: So would you rather take a shot on the Indiana quarterback? 731 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 11: Right? 732 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 4: Mendoza, who by the way, is like a genius, went 733 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 4: to cal and like. 734 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: No, I think Mendoza's people think Mendoza is the guy. 735 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: He could be. He doesn't. The wheels of. 736 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: Multiple nflgms have been visiting Mendoza. 737 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: You gotta read this Wall Street Journal story on him. 738 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 4: He's doing like internships at big time hedge funds and 739 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 4: financial services. Heart would you rather roll with him on 740 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: a rookie deal or Kyler Murray and his baggage? 741 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 3: Mendoza? 742 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 4: Okay, and you apply that to Ty Simpson from Alabama, 743 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 4: I know you don't love him. I'm just saying we 744 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 4: could reach a point where they have to go Russell 745 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 4: Wilson and just dump him. I don't know that could 746 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 4: be in play. Colin, who's bending over backwards for Kyler Murray. 747 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: Let's see, it's Miami gonna dump to it to get 748 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 3: in bed with him. I don't know. 749 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland's drafting a quarterback, The Raiders are drafting a quarterback, 750 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: the Jets are drafting a quarterback, and. 751 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: All Saints are drafting a quarterback. So there are four teams. 752 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 4: The Raiders is the one that's interesting. Could they somehow 753 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 4: luck their way into six wins? Have the tenth pick, 754 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 4: and Pete Carroll says, I want to win now, gimme 755 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray in the Dome, But then he's got to 756 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 4: go outdoors to Denver. 757 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 3: In Kansas City. 758 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: No, your resume in life matters, and his resume is 759 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: not great. They're his the he doesn't study. I mean, 760 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stories in this league that you 761 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: and I may hear about. I know I do all 762 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: the time. I texted six seven GMS yesterday. There's a 763 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: lot of stories in the league about players that doesn't 764 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: make it public. 765 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 3: You don't want to take a shot in a player. 766 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: I would say, Kyler Murray's reputation that doesn't make the 767 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,959 Speaker 1: airwaves is not good. 768 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 3: Let me just throw it up on. 769 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: The executives in this league that don't want to go public. 770 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: They're not going to tarnish anything. Not fans don't go crazy. 771 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: I'm just floating it. 772 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 4: So Stafford the last couple off seasons has been like, 773 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 4: maybe I retire. I know it's in the division. Would 774 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 4: they kick the tires on Kyler Murray? A Stafford walks 775 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 4: away after a Super. 776 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 3: Bowl, go look at who the Rams draft? They like 777 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 3: big quarterbacks? 778 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: Well, they let Jalen Ramsey go. If they think there's 779 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: any me instead of we, they move off. Yet, it's 780 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: very much about the room. It is very much about 781 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: culture with the Rams. They don't have a bad guy 782 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: in that locker room. It's like the M nine. They 783 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: do not not I'm not saying Jalen Ramsey a bad guy. 784 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: Jalen sometimes was taking risks they didn't like. 785 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 786 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 4: So, by the way, Dolphins are trying to trade Jalen 787 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 4: Ramsey right now, you go read about online one of 788 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 4: those Steelers I'm sorry Steelers Steelers at Jaiens are they well, 789 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 4: MIKEA Fitzpatrick's on the Dolphins. 790 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 3: They're looking to move off them. Sorry, yeah, I got 791 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 3: the two confused, all right. J Mack with the news. 792 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 8: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 793 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 8: Herd Line new Be sure to catch live editions of 794 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 8: The Herd weekdays and Noone Eastern non am Pacific on 795 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 8: Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 796 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 4: Start your Saturday strong with the unstoppable second ranked Hoosiers. 797 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 4: All eyes are are on Fernando Mendoza as he leads 798 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 4: Indiana and continues his Heisman campaign against Penn State. It 799 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 4: all starts with the Big Noon kickoff at ten am Eastern. 800 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 4: Then it's Indiana Penn State Big Noon Saturday only on Fox. 801 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 3: You know, it's fun. Tell me about this. 802 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: Every single major League Baseball owner, as far as I 803 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: can tell, is a billionaire. The Steinbrenners are billionaires, the 804 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: Steve Cohen's a billionaire. They're all billionaires. So and the 805 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: Dodgers owners are billionaires. But the reason the Dodgers can 806 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: spend more money is because they lead Major League Baseball 807 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: attendants by I think it's like six to seven thousand 808 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 1: per game. It is a and the reason they lead 809 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball and attendants is because they're so well run. Yeah, 810 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: they've got money. LA is not as big as New York, 811 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: Chicago's almost as big. They spend their money wisely. They 812 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: defer payments. Everybody could defer payments. The Dodgers chose to 813 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: defer payments. My favorite part of this team though, is 814 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: Miguel Rojas, old guy, never been an All Star, Will 815 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: Smith most innings caught in a World Series. 816 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 3: Andy pa has the outfielder. 817 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: I mean, who makes it, you know, me inning replacement 818 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: at Clayton Kershaw touched on just the unity beyond the 819 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: money inside this organization. 820 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 11: I love that guy. Man, he's he's just a gamer. 821 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 11: He's got all the talent in the world. But I 822 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 11: mean for him to step up and do this tonight 823 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 11: for us, Like, I mean, all these guys show hey 824 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 11: on short rest, Blake Snell coming in, Yeah, I'm a 825 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 11: relievers just I mean, it was this whole group. 826 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: Man. 827 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 11: It's just I'm just so grateful and honored to be 828 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 11: a part of this team. Like you can talk about 829 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 11: how much money the Dodgers spend all you want, but 830 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 11: that group of guys is a lot more than how 831 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 11: much money they make. It's a special group, man, it 832 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 11: really is. And show hey, Freddie MOOKI Will Smith, Will 833 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 11: Smith with a whole like Mickey Ross. I mean like 834 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 11: you can just go down the list. So I'm just 835 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 11: I'm just grateful man and honored. And what a way 836 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 11: to end it, you know. 837 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean there are go look at the rich Minnesota 838 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 1: Twins used to have one of the richest owners. Okay, 839 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: they're all billionaires. The Pirates owners, you know, they're they 840 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 1: don't want to spend that money. Now do the Dodgers 841 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: have massive game day revenue? Of course they do. Yes, 842 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: I mean that's of course the Dodgers do. But I 843 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: think lost in all of this is this constant need 844 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: to say, well, it's. 845 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 3: About the money. 846 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: Well, the Yankees always had money, but there was a 847 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: tour de force in George Steinbrenner that would make he 848 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: added pressure to the organization. You go back to those 849 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: Yankee teams. They were winning the Hot Soil League. They 850 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: had great players, but they had Scott Brocius from McMinnville, 851 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: Oregon making plays. 852 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 3: And that's really the essence of this. 853 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: I thought one of the things that was fascinating is 854 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: when Roki is one of their great young pitchers, twenty 855 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: three year old star from Japan, and they asked him 856 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: this year, hey, can you help us out in the bullpen? 857 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: And without pausing, he's like absolutely. Some of those teams 858 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: you asked guys to hit to the bullpen, they think 859 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: it's a second class citizen. 860 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 3: They're not going to the bullpen. 861 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: So what's remarkable about the Dodgers is that everybody buys in. 862 00:38:58,960 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 3: Despite all the salary. 863 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: And you know, these Japanese stars, you know, over in 864 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: Japan it's a rock concert, so they it's like SEC football. 865 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: They come in, they are ready for the moment. They 866 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: are superstars in Japan, and Japanese baseball's you know, I've 867 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 1: read for years it's a high triple A. It's it's 868 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: better than our Triple A. But the attendance and the 869 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: fandom is like Major League Baseball. It's like SEC Football's 870 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 1: not the NFL or Big ten football. But there's there's vibes, 871 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: there's stadiums, there's athletes that will play in the NFL. 872 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: And I just think overall the part about the Dodgers, 873 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean, some of these levers that Dave Rogers pulled 874 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: mid inning replacements Miguel Rojas. I mean, just remarkable stuff. 875 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: A center fielder making a catch in left field. I 876 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: mean Rojas here. This series, it was so close to 877 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: being the Blue Jays, and people say it's the best 878 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: World Series ever. When I was a kid, there was 879 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 1: a World Series in the mid seventies that was the 880 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: Red Sox. It's the legendary Carlton fisscom run at Fenway 881 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: off Pat Darcy and those Cincinnati Reds teams that had 882 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: Bench and Perez and Rose and Dave Concepcion. That was 883 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: the It was a mid seventies World Series, and that's 884 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: when baseball was bigger. 885 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 3: Than the NFL. 886 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: So that one feels that it's just Sparky Anderson was 887 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 1: the manager for the Reds. 888 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 3: He was a star. You'd have managers chain smoking. 889 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just a different world that felt 890 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 1: like the biggest World Series of my life. But I'll 891 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: say a lot of times, networks, networks don't care who 892 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: win these world series. Networks won Game seven. I'm not 893 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,479 Speaker 1: going to speak for management here. We generally love Game seven. 894 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what it's in. But I thought the 895 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: Canadian fans were amazing. I thought the Blue Jays out 896 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: hit the Dodgers. I mean, some of their guys. It 897 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: was like Beer League averages. But I think the Dodgers 898 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: had the world's greatest pitcher and pitching. Owa's beats hitting, 899 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: and the Dodgers had Yoshi. But as a collective, these 900 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: Dodger teams do remind me of a a less intense 901 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: version of the Yankees. We don't have a Steinbrenner out here. 902 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: Nobody you know, talks. You don't see the Dodgers owner. 903 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: It's very research and development Andrew Friedman. It's very smart franchise. 904 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 1: They don't make a lot of mistakes. 905 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 2: By the way. 906 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: They let Trade Turner go. They let Corey Seeger go. 907 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: They didn't sign Manny Machado. They've let a lot of 908 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: guys go. This idea. They buyed it. Tray Turner, great player. 909 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: Didn't he win the National League batting Crown? Trade Turner 910 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: let him go. Corey Sieger, great bro let him go, 911 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 1: Manny Machado, see you, Zach Greenky. They don't sign every 912 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: big guy. They got Max Muncy who got cut by 913 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: the A's, so they do Miguel Rojas. It's not like 914 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: multiple bidders on that, you know. So I mean, they 915 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: did do a lot well and yes they're well capitalized.