WEBVTT - #574 Jason Flom with Alexis Ke'Erica Martin

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, it's Connor Hall, one of the producers here

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<v Speaker 1>at Wrongful Conviction, and I will be curating a list

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<v Speaker 1>of episodes for the next few weeks, offering case updates,

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes in FOE and maybe some insights. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>When given this opportunity, a number of people immediately came

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<v Speaker 1>to mind, including Alexis Kierka Martin. If you don't remember,

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<v Speaker 1>she was fifteen years old when the robbery of her

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<v Speaker 1>sex trafficker turned into his murder. Now, I'm sure many

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<v Speaker 1>folks would be sympathetic to somebody in that situation if

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<v Speaker 1>they were to be involved in a plot to bring

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<v Speaker 1>about the demise of their sex trafficker, a child sex trafficker,

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<v Speaker 1>But Kyerka maintains that she was not involved in any

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<v Speaker 1>such plot, and without any direct evidence of her involvement,

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<v Speaker 1>the d A in Akron, Ohio at the time still

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<v Speaker 1>thought that Kierica needed to pay, which is strange given

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<v Speaker 1>just the circumstances. Yet, in addition, Ohio had just enacted

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<v Speaker 1>a safe harbor law, which he the judge and trial

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<v Speaker 1>council should have known about, a law made for situations

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<v Speaker 1>just like this one to end a human trafficking survivor's

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<v Speaker 1>nightmare rather than compounding it with the legal system, and

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<v Speaker 1>since that law was not invoked, Kierica was bound over

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<v Speaker 1>into adult court, convicted and sentenced to twenty one years

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<v Speaker 1>to life. And when this was brought to the attention

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<v Speaker 1>of Ohio Governor Mike Dwine, he granted Kierka clemency, putting

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<v Speaker 1>her on parole in April twenty twenty, and about a

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<v Speaker 1>year later, we released our coverage of her case, at

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<v Speaker 1>which time she was doing speaking engagements as well as

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<v Speaker 1>a few normal jobs to save for college, with the

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<v Speaker 1>plan of starting a nonprofit to help prevent human trafficking

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<v Speaker 1>and support other survivors. Now a year on from that,

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<v Speaker 1>can remember it like it was yesterday. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>were at the twenty twenty two Innocence Network conference in Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 1>We had just wrapped another day of interviews. It was

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<v Speaker 1>really emotional, and it only got more emotional when we

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<v Speaker 1>heard that Kierica had been sent back to prison. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of hers was in between living situations and

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<v Speaker 1>asked to crash on her couch for a few nights,

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<v Speaker 1>and then just mere hours after that person arrived at

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<v Speaker 1>her apartment with a bunch of moving boxes, Kierka's parole

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<v Speaker 1>officer came by for a random check, which may or

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<v Speaker 1>may not have been so random, since this was used

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<v Speaker 1>as an opportunity to bust not only a friend, but

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<v Speaker 1>then also Kierica because unbeknownst to her, her friend was

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<v Speaker 1>in possession of a number of items that were in

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<v Speaker 1>violation of her parole, so she was sent back to

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<v Speaker 1>serve the rest of that twenty one to life sentence. Luckily,

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<v Speaker 1>a huge law firm, Daikema, got wind of Kerka's story

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<v Speaker 1>and took on her case pro bono. They were able

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<v Speaker 1>to show the ineffectiveness of her trial council for first

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<v Speaker 1>not even being aware of and then failing to properly

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<v Speaker 1>invoke Ohio's Safe Harbor Law, which would have stopped Kierka's

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<v Speaker 1>legal troubles before they started, so her murder conviction was vacated,

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<v Speaker 1>at which point the state could have dismissed the charges,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with what the safe Harbor law demands, but they didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>which left Kierica with a choice to remain in prison

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<v Speaker 1>while the state appealed, and if they lost there, they

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<v Speaker 1>would retry her.

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<v Speaker 2>And who knows how long any of this would take

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<v Speaker 2>before they could finally get it back into the juvenile

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<v Speaker 2>court to then invoke the safe harbor law and finally

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<v Speaker 2>clear her name. So Kierica reluctantly accepted a guilty plea

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<v Speaker 2>to involuntary manslaughter with the sentence maxing out at eleven years,

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<v Speaker 2>just enough to let her go with time served, which

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<v Speaker 2>is going to do her exactly, zero favors and getting

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of compensation or standing in a civil proceeding.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want you all to keep that.

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<v Speaker 1>In mind when you listen to her story. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>very unique story, but the outcome is typical in a

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<v Speaker 1>state like Ohio or any state. Really, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>outcome that they felt comfortable delivering.

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<v Speaker 3>Alexis Kierka Martin was raised by her grandmother in Akron, Ohio,

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<v Speaker 3>and had a strained relationship with her birth mother and father.

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<v Speaker 3>She had a boyfriend, Deshaun Spear, but they broke up

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<v Speaker 3>around age thirteen, the same time that an older man

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<v Speaker 3>named Angelo Kearney began grooming her for the sex trade.

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<v Speaker 3>By the time she was fourteen, she was actively being trafficked.

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<v Speaker 3>Time passed and Deshaun reached out to Kierica to ask

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<v Speaker 3>if the rumors he had heard about prostitution were true.

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<v Speaker 3>Then one night, after a party, a Angelo Kearney's Kierka

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<v Speaker 3>and another woman, Jenney Jones, were alone with Angelo and

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<v Speaker 3>his brother Alicio Samuel while she was being raped by Alicio.

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<v Speaker 3>Samuel to Shaun and his friend Travaski Jackson broke in,

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<v Speaker 3>wearing masks and carrying guns. Kearney was shot and killed,

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<v Speaker 3>and Samuel survived a gunshot to his head. When Samuel

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<v Speaker 3>came to at the hospital, he mentioned nothing about the

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<v Speaker 3>child he had been raping, but he did mention the

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<v Speaker 3>other people he had been with earlier that night. A

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<v Speaker 3>further investigation led to Alexis Kierka Martin. Ohio's brand new

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<v Speaker 3>safe Harbor law was written for situations just like this,

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<v Speaker 3>but neither her lawyer nor the state invoked it before

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<v Speaker 3>she was tried in adult court for the murder of

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<v Speaker 3>the man that held her captive in child sex slavery.

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<v Speaker 3>This is wrongful conviction. Welcome back to Wrongful Conviction with

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<v Speaker 3>Jason Flamm That's me. I'm your host, and today if

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<v Speaker 3>my voice is cracking a little, it's because this story is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's painful to read, it's painful to talk about. It's

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<v Speaker 3>an absolute disgrace that any of this happened. It's also

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<v Speaker 3>the story of triumph over tragedy though with us today,

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<v Speaker 3>we have an extraordinary lawyer, Sasha Naman from the Ohio

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<v Speaker 3>Justice and Policy Center. Sasha, it's wonderful to have you here.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Wrongful Conviction.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much, and we're.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to tell the story with the person who lived it,

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<v Speaker 3>Alexis Kierica Martin. You'll hear her referred to as Kierica

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<v Speaker 3>as we go through, but she's also known as Alexis Martin.

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<v Speaker 3>So Alexis, thank you for being here and sharing your story.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for allowing me the time and opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's go back to your childhood, Akron, Ohio, Hardland

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<v Speaker 3>of America. What was your childhood like before this tragedy,

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<v Speaker 3>this series of tragedies struck.

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<v Speaker 5>My childhood would be what some people would call unstable.

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<v Speaker 5>I grew up with multiple family members, but predominantly I

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<v Speaker 5>was blessed with having my grandmother raised me. All in all,

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<v Speaker 5>through everything, I would say that she did a pretty

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<v Speaker 5>good job with at least making sure I knew how

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<v Speaker 5>to say thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Alexis was a child when she was trafficked. She had

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<v Speaker 4>a tough childhood in some ways, and she said her

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<v Speaker 4>grandma was a light in that in a big way.

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<v Speaker 4>But at fourteen years old, she was surviving some horrific things,

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<v Speaker 4>things that are unimaginable to many Americans. Is a prolonged

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<v Speaker 4>and terrible sex trafficking situation, and she wanted a life

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<v Speaker 4>that was free and safe and healthy, where she could

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<v Speaker 4>go to school, where her and her siblings weren't in danger.

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<v Speaker 4>And she was a child, so she was in a

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<v Speaker 4>position where she hoped that she could finally have this

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity to flee from the trafficking, and that brought her

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<v Speaker 4>into involvement with the robbery of her trafficker.

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<v Speaker 5>I was fourteen when I met my trafficker, and me

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<v Speaker 5>and my co defriend and DeShawn Spirit. He was my

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<v Speaker 5>boyfriend and we separated before this case occurred, and then

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<v Speaker 5>while I was in active trafficking, we would see each

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<v Speaker 5>other and check on each other, but I never got

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<v Speaker 5>too close with him. Everybody kept hearing rumors about me

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<v Speaker 5>being prostituted. Some people were bold enough to act, some

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<v Speaker 5>people weren't. They just you know, kind of turned their

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<v Speaker 5>nose up to me. Well, he asked me a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of times, and I continued to deny it and just

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<v Speaker 5>admitted that I was dancing, but I wouldn't tell him

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<v Speaker 5>where I was dancing at.

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<v Speaker 3>So as of that moment, he's left in the dark.

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<v Speaker 3>And before the night that the Shawn Spirit tried to

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<v Speaker 3>free Kierika, which was November seven, twenty thirteen, Sasha, she

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<v Speaker 3>had tried to find another way to get out of

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<v Speaker 3>that life, right.

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<v Speaker 4>She was trying to reach out to adults for help.

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<v Speaker 4>So before the night of this offense happened, she was

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<v Speaker 4>trying to turn herself in. She actually proactively went to

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<v Speaker 4>the juvenile system because she had kind of an active

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<v Speaker 4>case that had kind of been going on in parallel,

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<v Speaker 4>and she was hoping that they would take her in,

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<v Speaker 4>that they would arrest her, they would put her in

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<v Speaker 4>a program. But her trafficker sends her with someone who

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<v Speaker 4>poses as her caretaker and says she's fine and she's

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<v Speaker 4>cared for, and even though these adults see the way

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<v Speaker 4>she's dressed, even though they see these red flags, they

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<v Speaker 4>let her back out with that person.

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<v Speaker 3>Alexis, as much as you're comfortable with talking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>That night, when this robbery occurred. Can you tell us

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<v Speaker 3>how this whole thing happened and how somebody ended up dead.

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<v Speaker 5>I was caught to the house and Jenney Jones was

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<v Speaker 5>also there. They had a party and Angela was training

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<v Speaker 5>me more so to be his madam. I had to

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<v Speaker 5>be there to make sure that the rest of the

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<v Speaker 5>girls did what they were supposed to and that I

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<v Speaker 5>made money that night. So during the whole time that

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<v Speaker 5>the party occurred, I did what Angelo told me to do.

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<v Speaker 5>I danced, I collected money, I served drinks, and then

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<v Speaker 5>as it got late, everybody left. But that means that

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<v Speaker 5>there was a lot of eyewitnesses that seen me with him,

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<v Speaker 5>some of his other brothers, they were there that night.

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<v Speaker 5>When they left, it was just me, Jenny Jones, Angelo Kearney,

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<v Speaker 5>and Alisio Samer.

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<v Speaker 4>Alexis was aware that Deshaun and Trevaski were going to

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<v Speaker 4>be coming into the house. And in Ohio there's something

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<v Speaker 4>called felony murder, as there is in many other states.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you're aware of something like a robbery, if

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<v Speaker 4>you are found legally culpable in something like a robbery

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<v Speaker 4>and then somebody gets killed, then you're culpable for the

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<v Speaker 4>homicide that happened. Alexis never shot anybody, never hurt anybody,

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<v Speaker 4>never wanted anybody to get hurt. But there was this

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<v Speaker 4>robbery that happened, and when Deshaun Spears and Travaska Jackson

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<v Speaker 4>break in, when they shoot her trafficker and kill him

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<v Speaker 4>when they shoot the man who's raping her. Although she

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<v Speaker 4>is the child and she's the victim there, she became

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<v Speaker 4>legally culpable ultimately for the death.

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<v Speaker 5>Once Alisio was shot and Angela was killed, the question

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<v Speaker 5>was where was I because I was always with him,

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<v Speaker 5>and if I wasn't with him, then I was in

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<v Speaker 5>a position where one of his brothers knew where I

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<v Speaker 5>was at, So where was I was missing? After Alicio

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<v Speaker 5>woke up in the hospital, he identified Janey. He never

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<v Speaker 5>identified me. And my theory on this subject is he

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<v Speaker 5>didn't identify me because I was a child and he

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<v Speaker 5>was adult. But other people that the police questioned that

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<v Speaker 5>night continuously brought up my name. So I turned myself

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<v Speaker 5>in and I was arrested. I was fifteen, and I

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<v Speaker 5>felt like it was the first time in life that

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<v Speaker 5>anybody was actually like listening to me. I kind of

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<v Speaker 5>just told him everything that they wanted to know. My

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<v Speaker 5>only thing was I just wanted to know was he

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<v Speaker 5>alive or was he dead? Because I wasn't sure. And

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<v Speaker 5>when he told me Angelo was dead, I didn't really

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<v Speaker 5>know how to feel. It didn't click into me that

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<v Speaker 5>I was truly being arrested for his death until they

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<v Speaker 5>took me away from the detention center. I was on probation,

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<v Speaker 5>so I've been arrested a couple times. I was used

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<v Speaker 5>to the detention officers and stuff like that, so it

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<v Speaker 5>was kind of like, finally that night, I was going

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<v Speaker 5>to be safe until they pulled away from there and

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<v Speaker 5>took me down to the adult Question interrogation where they

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<v Speaker 5>left me in the code for about three or four hours.

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<v Speaker 5>I threw up on the table. They didn't clean that up.

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<v Speaker 5>I asked for my mother. They told me that my

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<v Speaker 5>mother left, and I knew some of my rights, and

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, you know, I thought my mom had

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<v Speaker 5>to be present because I was only fifteen, and they

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<v Speaker 5>told me she didn't care. And then I continuously asked

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<v Speaker 5>for my attorney. And I was fifteen. I knew some

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<v Speaker 5>of my rights right because of Criminal Minds and whatever

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<v Speaker 5>else I watched, but I didn't really know how to

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<v Speaker 5>enforce my rights. How they knew I had involvement was?

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<v Speaker 5>I admitted my own involvement. I didn't know what human

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<v Speaker 5>trafficking was. I only knew what prostitution and escorting was.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't understand that I was a victim. I also

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<v Speaker 5>admitted to the cops Angela was training me to be

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<v Speaker 5>his madam. And I also admitted to the cops that

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<v Speaker 5>I called this man my dad. But that night and

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<v Speaker 5>for months on, nobody pays attention to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Before Alexis's case happened, Ohio had passed the Safe Harbor

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<v Speaker 4>Law that was specifically meant to protect survivors of human

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<v Speaker 4>trafficking like Kerica. The law would allow juvenile courts to

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<v Speaker 4>offer services to children like her who were trafficked and

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<v Speaker 4>to help them. And when she was arrested and sent

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<v Speaker 4>to juvenile court, that law was in effect, but her

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<v Speaker 4>attorney didn't know about it and didn't understand it. And

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<v Speaker 4>Kierko is actually the one who brought this question about

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<v Speaker 4>this law to the attorney because she had heard about

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<v Speaker 4>it somewhere.

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<v Speaker 5>So she was.

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<v Speaker 4>Now advocating for herself. And this is above and beyond

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<v Speaker 4>a fifteen year old who is trying to educate her attorney,

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<v Speaker 4>who then did look into it but didn't understand the law.

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<v Speaker 4>And then neither he, nor the court nor the prosecutor

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<v Speaker 4>brings it up. You have this case that the law

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<v Speaker 4>is made for, the law is in effect, and nobody

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<v Speaker 4>brings it up, nobody applies it. In fact, the only

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<v Speaker 4>person who had mentioned it in the process really is

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<v Speaker 4>Kerka herself.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to clarify for all you, it's the safe Harbor

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<v Speaker 3>law in Ohio specifically mandates that miners under the age

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<v Speaker 3>of sixteen do not need to prove that they were

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<v Speaker 3>compelled to engage in commercial sexual activity. They're automatically considered

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<v Speaker 3>victims of child sex trafficking, and the statute requires juvenile

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<v Speaker 3>courts to appoint a guardian to the defendant, a professional

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<v Speaker 3>other than a parent or attorney who was responsible for

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<v Speaker 3>advocating in the best interests of the child on trial.

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<v Speaker 3>So here the defense, lawyer, the court itself, everybody, they

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<v Speaker 3>just didn't do what they're supposed to do. Nobody did.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy, and then to make matters worse, they send

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<v Speaker 3>you to adult court.

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<v Speaker 5>At that point, I was educated on what human trafficking was,

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<v Speaker 5>so actually realize that you're a victim, and you hold

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<v Speaker 5>no power, and that somebody you thought you cared about

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<v Speaker 5>was hurting you. To know that they were knowledgeably hurting you,

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<v Speaker 5>and that was their only intent ever, was to hurt you,

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<v Speaker 5>it's pretty defeating. It hurts. So I know all this now.

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<v Speaker 5>I learned about what the grooming process was, and I

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<v Speaker 5>identified what my grooming process was. I learned about the trafficking.

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<v Speaker 5>I learned about the stages with a juvenile counselor named

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<v Speaker 5>Hilary Finkel, and she's the one who's bringing in this

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<v Speaker 5>lady named Maggan Madimo, who ultimately brings up the safe

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<v Speaker 5>harbor law to the juvenile court after I'm bound over

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<v Speaker 5>into the adult court, who ultimately educates my attorney. But

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<v Speaker 5>while I was in the courtroom, Judge Theodosia, who leads

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<v Speaker 5>the Human Trafficking Division in Summon County still to this day,

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<v Speaker 5>set out of her own mouths, can we take a

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<v Speaker 5>second in pause? And I want to ask you, Noah,

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<v Speaker 5>my attorney and the prosecutor, what do we do about

0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:56.600
<v Speaker 5>this fifteen year old's trafficking? She admits out her mouth

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<v Speaker 5>that I'm traffic. Not only was I sex traffic, but

0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:04.959
<v Speaker 5>labor traffic. She admits this, nobody had a response. The

0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.479
<v Speaker 5>prosecutor and my attorney looked at each other, looked at

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<v Speaker 5>the judge and was kind of dumbfounded when she asked

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<v Speaker 5>this question. My attorney, I can't even remember. He mustered

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<v Speaker 5>up some answer, but it clearly must not have been

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<v Speaker 5>good enough for Teodosia, because two months later, even after

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<v Speaker 5>you admit that I'm traffic I got bound over and

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<v Speaker 5>that made me feel like prior to the trafficking, I

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<v Speaker 5>was raped and I've reported it and I never got help.

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<v Speaker 5>One of my cousins raped me from nine to ten

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<v Speaker 5>and they found him not guilty. And it made me

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<v Speaker 5>feel the exact same way that no matter how many

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<v Speaker 5>times I tell somebody somebody did something to me that

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<v Speaker 5>was wrong, I'm always gonna either be accused of a

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<v Speaker 5>liar or it doesn't matter. So I started to lose

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<v Speaker 5>hope again.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a miracle that you clung onto any hope at

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<v Speaker 3>all after everything you had been through. And so February seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 3>tw fifteen, a day that will live in infamy, Karaka,

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<v Speaker 3>you were advised by your attorney that, with the goal

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<v Speaker 3>of returning to juvenile court, you should plead guilty to

0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:13.679
<v Speaker 3>polonious assault and murder. Yes, this was, of course a

0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:18.800
<v Speaker 3>terrible strategy, and ultimately you were sentenced to twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>to life. How did you process that sentence and how

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<v Speaker 3>did you manage to maintain any sort of trace of sanity.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I have a little sister that's three and a

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<v Speaker 5>half years younger than me, and we were talking when

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<v Speaker 5>I was six years old, and I promised her that

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<v Speaker 5>I would never let nobody hurt her and I would

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<v Speaker 5>always be there to protect her. While I was fighting

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<v Speaker 5>my case at detention center, I tried to kill myself.

0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.359
<v Speaker 5>I busted all the above vessels in my face and

0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:56.320
<v Speaker 5>I was really close. It hurt her bad while I

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<v Speaker 5>was in prison. She's left out in the world with

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<v Speaker 5>my father and my birth mother, the two people I've

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<v Speaker 5>tried to protect her from my whole life. So if

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<v Speaker 5>I gave up fighting, I gave up fighting for her life.

0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:12.040
<v Speaker 5>If I gave up fighting, everything that happened to me,

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<v Speaker 5>every time a man abused me, hit me, sex with me,

0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.560
<v Speaker 5>everything that I have ever done to protect her was

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<v Speaker 5>ultimately for nothing. If I lay down and just gave up. Now,

0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:28.000
<v Speaker 5>I was scared to go to trial because my co defendant,

0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.920
<v Speaker 5>DeShawn just got forty one to life. I would have

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<v Speaker 5>went if I had somebody believe in me that told

0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:37.800
<v Speaker 5>me to go. I had two people that told me

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<v Speaker 5>you should maybe go to trial. One was another fifteen

0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.240
<v Speaker 5>year old girl, and all she said was best friend,

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<v Speaker 5>if you go, I'm gonna support you. And then I

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<v Speaker 5>had my older sister who was paying for my attorney,

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<v Speaker 5>and she was telling me she thinks I should take

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<v Speaker 5>it to trial. I had an indecisive father that kept

0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.919
<v Speaker 5>telling me one minute, plead out and act crazy. The

0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:00.879
<v Speaker 5>next one he was telling me to take it to trial.

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<v Speaker 5>My birth mother, she barely went to any hearings, but

0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.760
<v Speaker 5>she was telling me, plead because you don't want to

0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:08.919
<v Speaker 5>get max out at the box. And then I have

0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:12.639
<v Speaker 5>my attorney, who knows more than me, that's telling me, plead,

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<v Speaker 5>we have a good chance of winning your appeal because

0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:21.399
<v Speaker 5>of this safe harbor law. So I pled, But I

0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:25.000
<v Speaker 5>kept fighting because I have a baby's sister that at

0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:27.000
<v Speaker 5>the end I promised I would protect and if I

0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:32.159
<v Speaker 5>didn't protect her, nobody else would. So I fought, and

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<v Speaker 5>I continue to fight after denial after denial, after denial.

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<v Speaker 4>Her new attorney. Ke's new attorney, Jennifer Kinsley, ends up

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<v Speaker 4>taking on this case pro bono and appealing it all

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<v Speaker 4>the way to the Ohio Supreme Court, arguing that Kierka

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<v Speaker 4>should have received the protections of the Safe Harbor law,

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<v Speaker 4>and ultimately the Ohio Supreme Court rejected the case. And

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<v Speaker 4>they did that while saying that there is ample evidence

0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:03.119
<v Speaker 4>that Kierica was a victim of human trafficking, but unfortunately,

0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:07.159
<v Speaker 4>the original trial attorney didn't present evidence linking the crime

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:11.040
<v Speaker 4>to Kerica being a victim of sex trafficking. So the

0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:14.719
<v Speaker 4>Supreme Court said, because he didn't create that link between

0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:17.760
<v Speaker 4>the known trafficking and the crime, they were not going

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<v Speaker 4>to apply the safe Harbor law to Key. And to me,

0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:25.399
<v Speaker 4>that's a little bit absurd, because of course there's a connection.

0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.920
<v Speaker 4>You have a fifteen year old child trying to free

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<v Speaker 4>herself from being trafficked by adults. It doesn't take a

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<v Speaker 4>lot to think about how there could be a connection there.

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<v Speaker 3>While justice was delayed, it surely wasn't going to be denied. Ultimately,

0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:44.760
<v Speaker 3>you petitioned Governor de Wine for clemency and you had

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<v Speaker 3>a hearing on that in September of twenty nineteen.

0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:52.600
<v Speaker 5>I went in front of the pro board on determination

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<v Speaker 5>of my clemency in November. I got an eight to

0:21:56.160 --> 0:22:00.800
<v Speaker 5>two vote, eight in favor, two agains. In January, Governor

0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:04.520
<v Speaker 5>DeWine considered my clemency and said that he wanted me

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.400
<v Speaker 5>to do this program Tapestry, and after I completed it,

0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:11.920
<v Speaker 5>I would come home. I started Tapestry January twenty first,

0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:16.919
<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty. Tapestry closed down due to COVID and I

0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 5>was released April twenty of twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>So, after serving seven long years in prison, what was

0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:29.160
<v Speaker 3>it like walking out? Take us inside? That day?

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<v Speaker 5>That moment April eighteenth, on national television, I was told

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:37.360
<v Speaker 5>I was going to be released. It didn't seem real

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<v Speaker 5>at all, Like this is something that I drinked about

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<v Speaker 5>many days in prison. It was going home, going home.

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<v Speaker 5>And now I'm signing a paper to agree to conditions

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<v Speaker 5>of parole and clemency and being told that I'll be

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<v Speaker 5>free by monday. So I signed the papers, and then

0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:59.679
<v Speaker 5>I'm told, you have to go to the whole to

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<v Speaker 5>the the craziest things ever. Yes, I have to go

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 5>get COVID nineteen tested and be put in quarantine in

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<v Speaker 5>the whole until Monday so that I could be released

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:14.439
<v Speaker 5>to this program. So I pack up my stuff and

0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:18.240
<v Speaker 5>for two days, it's like the longest agony in the world,

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 5>knowing that in two days you'll be released. In two days,

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:27.240
<v Speaker 5>you'll get to enter into a world of something you

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<v Speaker 5>don't know. I left as a kid, and I left

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:32.400
<v Speaker 5>a world of chaos, and I'm supposed to be being

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:35.119
<v Speaker 5>released into a world of peace and freedom. Right. I

0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 5>decided that I didn't want to go back to my

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 5>hometown Akron because I didn't want to go back to

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:43.160
<v Speaker 5>the same people, the same way, as the same lifestyle.

0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:45.959
<v Speaker 5>I believe that was, you know, the biggest reason of

0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:49.240
<v Speaker 5>why I didn't get to reach my goals as a kid.

0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:52.159
<v Speaker 5>I believe God gave me a second opportunity with the

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:56.479
<v Speaker 5>new family, and I chose to take it. They released

0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:59.119
<v Speaker 5>me from the prison and it's this long corridor you

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:02.560
<v Speaker 5>have to walk down, really really really long, and they

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 5>hand him my release ID, and it's none of this

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 5>is still real that I'm really being released until I

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:12.119
<v Speaker 5>passed through the other side of the metal detectors and

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 5>there's Jennifer and Sasha and they hug me and we

0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 5>walk out the doors, and we walk out the doors

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 5>to cameras in my face. They tell me I get

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 5>to say hi. I say hi, and finally I get

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:35.640
<v Speaker 5>to embrace my little sister. Finally I get to embrace

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 5>this little girl that's not a little girl anymore. I

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<v Speaker 5>left and she was eleven, and I came home and

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<v Speaker 5>she's eighteen and has a big, old round belly. It

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:51.879
<v Speaker 5>was hard seeing somebody that I thought was my baby

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<v Speaker 5>not a baby no more.

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<v Speaker 3>So are you Are you an aunt? Now?

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 5>I am? I also have another niece. She was born

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 5>four months after I went to prison. The reason why

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 5>I mentioned this is that I was supposed to raise her,

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.679
<v Speaker 5>and four months before she is born into this world,

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 5>I am tooken away from her. Currently, right now, we

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 5>are in the process of getting temporary custody of her

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:34.160
<v Speaker 5>and she is here with me. So I am an aunt.

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 5>I am an aunt by a lot. I have eleven

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 5>nephews and nieces together.

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 3>So I want to talk now about something you began

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.439
<v Speaker 3>in prison that I hear you're hoping and planning to

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 3>continue with on the outside, and that's working with other survivors.

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 3>I heard that when you were in prison, and this

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 3>sounds I mean incredible, but hear me out. You improved

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:01.159
<v Speaker 3>on an existing program by reaching out to someone with

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<v Speaker 3>the FBI who had actually interviewed you.

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:07.399
<v Speaker 5>I got interrogated by the FBI about the human trafficking

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 5>and stuff, and so I contacted one of the contacts

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 5>and told her like, Hey, you know, I'm trying to

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 5>run this group. Do you have any pointers on what

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 5>I should teach these girls about what is human trafficking?

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 5>And she actually sent me like these packets and stuff.

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:22.680
<v Speaker 5>So me and one of my case managers we went

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 5>through what I wanted to touch on, and I created

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 5>a twelve week group on human trafficking and prostitution education.

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:34.159
<v Speaker 5>So it talked about healthy relationships, talked about sex, It

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<v Speaker 5>talked about what is grooming, It talked about family loves.

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<v Speaker 5>It touched on the trafficking part of it, but also

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<v Speaker 5>some of the healing process of it. And then after

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:47.679
<v Speaker 5>you went through the group, you became a mentor to

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 5>the new ladies. I was going through a group, so

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 5>it was an ongoing cycle that you had somewhere to go,

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<v Speaker 5>and every time that group was going on, it would

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 5>keep me and a lot of other girls out of

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 5>trouble because you had to play where you were not alone,

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:05.479
<v Speaker 5>somebody could feel every emotion that you felt and wouldn't

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 5>look at you like you were crazy. I actually have

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 5>a mentee that I still talk to. She sits on

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 5>a human trafficking board in Columbus, Ohio, and she wrote

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<v Speaker 5>me a letter WHI was in prison and told me

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 5>that because of me is the reason why she believed

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 5>that she was a survivor and not just a prostitute.

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 5>One thing with a lot of survivors is we have

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 5>a problem with men for a while. So somebody that

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 5>may not have had the issue with men, if I say,

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 5>oh God, I want to punch him in his face,

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 5>somebody that hasn't had that issue would be like, there's

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 5>something wrong with her. But another survivor would be like, girl,

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 5>I know too, Like yeah, he was talking really mean

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.360
<v Speaker 5>or something. You know. So the group was just very

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 5>productive and supportive, and it gave us a family, which

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 5>ultimately most of us never really had a family or helped.

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 5>We had a family that cared about us. So those

0:27:57.760 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 5>are one of the things that I did in prison.

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<v Speaker 5>Since I've been home, I'm working on going back to

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 5>college to start my business so I can do a

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 5>business for at risk tines. That's ultimately what I want

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 5>to work with. I want to work with kids before

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 5>they even get involved in a victimization. So that is

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<v Speaker 5>my dream.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, he's doing more than most three people.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. It's a really beautiful thing. And I know

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 3>after hearing your story, Jerka, people are gonna want to

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.199
<v Speaker 3>get involved even more than they already are. So please, Sasha,

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 3>you want to.

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<v Speaker 4>So there is a GoFundMe for Alexis Karaca Martin. She's

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<v Speaker 4>building up her new future, so she's in a position

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 4>where she's gonna need some resources to continue her education.

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 4>She hopes to one day start her own nonprofit to

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 4>serve survivors, but also just to get up on her feet.

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 4>And there's this GoFundMe. If you look for Alexis Kierka

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 4>Martin support fund, people can donate and help keep it

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 4>on her way to the great future that she deserves.

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 4>And the other pieces and say is Ohio Justice and

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 4>Policy Center does lots of work to free people who

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 4>are unfairly sentenced and unfairly incarcerated. And if people want

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 4>to learn more about Key's case, or about similar cases,

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 4>or about our work, our website is Ohio JPC dot org.

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<v Speaker 4>So Ohio Justice Policy Center JPC dot org. Those are

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 4>two distinct ways people can help key and then also

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 4>learn more about the way we need to change our

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 4>systems and the work that's being done throughout Ohio.

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 5>And I wanted to say it's not up and running yet,

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 5>but I would just ask that people stay tuned. I

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 5>will be releasing my first poetry book. It's all the

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 5>poems that I did fighting my case and while I

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 5>was in prison. The person that I'm working with, we

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 5>are hoping to publish it sometime after my birthday in

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we will be happy and proud to help support

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 3>it and promote it when it comes out. Congratulations on that.

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 3>And we will also be putting the links to the

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 3>GoFundMe in our episode guide, so we'll make it easy

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 3>for our audience to get involved, and we'll post it

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 3>on our Instagram as well. Thank you. Now we turn

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 3>to the segment of the show that I always look

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 3>forward to, closing arguments, where first of all, I once

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 3>again thank each of you, Sasha Name and Kierka Martin

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 3>for being here and sharing your amazing saga of a

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 3>life and a case, we wish you all the best

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 3>of everything. And then I turned my microphone off and

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 3>I kick back in my chair and close my eyes

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 3>so that you can share anything you want to share

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 3>with our audience. And of course, Kerica, we'd like to

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 3>save you for last. Sasha, if you can go first,

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 3>and then whenever you're done, hand the mic off to

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 3>Kierka Alexis.

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 4>Kiera Ka Mark is this incredibly resilient and smart and

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 4>kind human being, and she has survived a lot and

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 4>in so many ways is a unique gift in this world,

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 4>and in some ways her story is one that other

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 4>people also have, and it's important to keep that in

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 4>mind because the work toward criminal justice has to be

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 4>centered on the humanity of people like Key, and right

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 4>now we have a criminal legal system. It's not always

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 4>a criminal justice system. Key came out of prison just

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 4>as we had a pandemic. But also this moment where

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 4>we're really starting to rethink the way we have justice

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 4>and racial equity and the way we treat human beings

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 4>in a system that cages people. So there's a lot

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 4>of work to do and we're incredibly lucky that Governor

0:31:57.200 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 4>DeWine granted clemency for Key because she's going to be

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 4>a major player I think in the way we improve

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 4>this world. And I'm just incredibly honored to be on

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 4>her team and to be her friend and to get

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 4>to see her grow and to be a part of it.

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Kierica is all yours, Okay.

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 5>I just wanted to thank you, know, the listeners for

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 5>staying tuned and listening. I wanted to thank you guys

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 5>for having me on and talking with me. I wanted

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 5>to clarify, just maybe for the listeners because I was thinking,

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 5>like they may have been wondering, why do I want

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 5>to be called Kerka? It is taking ownership of who

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 5>I am. I feel like alexis Lexi Alex. They all

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 5>have like a bad past. I feel like holding on

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 5>to that part of my name is like holding on

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 5>to baggage. I don't plan on dropping my name completely,

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 5>but Kierka is something that my grandmother named me, and

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 5>that's really the only good of a lot of my past.

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 5>So I believe I have a new life, a new

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 5>start or new home, a new dream, so why not

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 5>a new name. So that is why I like being

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 5>called Kiera Khurkee and my final thoughts and final things

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 5>that I would say is the main reason why I

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 5>tell my story. I call it getting naked. Main reason

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 5>why I get naked in front of the audience and

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 5>I let people see the vulnerability is that anybody can

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 5>be a victim. Anybody. I was a girl who got

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 5>all a's in school. I wanted to go to the

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 5>Air Force. I was at ROTC. I just didn't have

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 5>parents at home that loved me, but I had a dream.

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't some bad kid that a lot of people thought.

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 5>Anybody can be a victim, but it takes love in

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 5>the community to make that victim into a survivor. And

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 5>that's the difference between me and a lot of other

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:08.320
<v Speaker 5>people is that I didn't let my victimization leave me

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 5>as a victim. And I'm still fighting and I'm going

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 5>to continue fighting, and so there's no longer a breath

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 5>in my body to fight for survivors and not just

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 5>survivors of human trafficking. And I hope that hearing my

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 5>story encourages people to if you're not going to, at

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:31.720
<v Speaker 5>least support the calls, support your family, hug the little

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 5>girl that's alone, play with the little boy that wants

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.919
<v Speaker 5>to play and just let your kids know that they're

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 5>loved so that there's not men like my trafficker that

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 5>can come in and use and abuse them.

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