1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 2: Well, everybody knows it's March, and so that means we 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: are in the midst of March Madness. So for all 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: of you out there that don't know, I'm not a 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: huge sports fan, but basketball is kind of my thing 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: because when I was growing up, I was growing up 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: in the Chicago suburbs and the Bulls were winning every year. 8 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: It was amazing. 9 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: We had Michael Jordan, we had Dennis Brodman, we had 10 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: Scottie Pippen. We was like the dream team, right And 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: then I went from there to the University of Kentucky 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: and Rick Patino was the coach and we were winning 13 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: at Kentucky and it was just awesome and I was 14 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: so excited about it. Now my kids, who are probably 15 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: the shortest kids in town, are playing basketball and even 16 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: though they are the tiny ones, we just love the game. 17 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: And I heard this story about an Irish bar in 18 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: Staten Island being the originators of the March Madness tournament bracket, 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: and I was like, I got to talk to this guy. 20 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: So I have Terrence Haggerty with me. 21 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: He is the owner of Odie's Club Forrest in Staten Island, Terrence, 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: thanks for joining me today. 23 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 3: You got it too, Thank you for having me. Yeah, 24 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: so it's been quite the last couple of weeks. Yeah, 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: say the least. Yeah, the APE did a story, and 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: I'm starting to learn a little bit about journalism too, 27 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: because I realized that when the AP does a story, 28 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: it really goes out throughout the whole entire country. So 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: I've had calls from, you know, multiple people. So it's 30 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: been a pretty cool experience to be able to tell 31 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 3: my father's story. You know, my dad's not here anymore, 32 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: so you know, it's you know, I'm kind of, I guess, 33 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: the spokesperson for this right now. So you know, I'm 34 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: the youngest of five and I'm the only one who 35 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 3: really wanted to do what he did for his whole 36 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: life basically, So I've taken the bull by the horns 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: and away and you know, tried to get his story 38 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: out there as best as I can. 39 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: Well, that's actually part of the beauty of this. I 40 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: lost my dad a few years ago, and my dad 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: was this. He was a steel expert in his thing 42 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: was rail castings, and I love to be able to 43 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: talk about his legacy. Your dad is so much bigger 44 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: than life, I mean, especially in your community. And I 45 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: think that is really the beauty of your story and 46 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: probably why you're getting so much attention, because we're looking 47 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 2: for something that is a good story, a feel good 48 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: story about a family who works together. 49 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: But your whole community came. 50 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: Together, and I think that, honestly, I feel like that 51 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: is the future that everybody is looking for, and the 52 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: future that everybody's looking for comes out of these stories 53 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: from the past. And so I want to go into 54 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: how this happened because I can't even imagine what it 55 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: was like for. 56 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: You guys as kids when this. 57 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: Started up in He opened the bar in seventy six, 58 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: and then the Brackets started in seventy seven, right, Yes, so. 59 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: We started, you know, we opened in June of seventy six. 60 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: Actually in about a year and a half will be 61 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: he had fifty years. So we are very excited about that, 62 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 3: you know, because we're still running a day to day 63 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 3: restaurant bar. It's really a it's we've been here a 64 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 3: long time, so it's a it's a real where. I 65 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: guess we're kind of pillars of the community, I would say, 66 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: but you know, back in the late seventies, seventy six 67 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: seventy seven. My father was only twenty seven years old, 68 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: and I couldn't imagine running this place when I was 69 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: twenty seven. I was not mature enough. He probably wasn't 70 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: mature enough. But you know, with the helping of my 71 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: mother's father, they got started in June of seventy six, 72 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: like I just said, and in March of that following year, 73 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: him and his you know, just guys sitting around, you know, 74 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: just talking. You know, there was no internet obviously, so 75 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: you know, you did a lot of talking back then, 76 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: and you know there was probably some drinking involved as well. 77 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: So so they decided they were going to run a pool, 78 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: you know, where basically all you had to do was 79 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: pick the final four. You know, you didn't have to 80 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: pick every game, like the brackets and stuff like that, 81 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: but you just had to pick the final four, the 82 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: winner of the tournament, and the total points of the 83 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: final game. Not easy, right, you know, you would think 84 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: it was easy. So that first year we had eighty 85 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: eight picks in you know, I always say I fast 86 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: forward the two thousand and six because there's so many 87 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: stories in between those thirty years. But just the full 88 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: scope of it was eighty eight entries in seventy seven, 89 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: and then hour very last year we had over one 90 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty thousand entries from TIX. 91 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: I mean that isn't but to me, this is the 92 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: most incredible part about this is what people don't think. 93 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: There was no internet. 94 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: This was before I mean, this is just like at 95 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: the beginning, in the midst of this, you see computers. 96 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 2: I mean, when they're doing this, it's you know, not 97 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,119 Speaker 2: even the Apple to E. I that was the first 98 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: computer I remember, you know, yeah, it's all by hand. 99 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: It was all by hand in the beginning, crazy and 100 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: then we got into computers. I would say like early 101 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: nineties was when it really got big. You know. I hate, 102 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: I know you went to Kentucky and I hate to 103 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: bring this up. You know, ninety two was a very 104 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 3: big year. That was the year the Latner shot. So 105 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: I'm very sorry I had to bring that out. But 106 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: I do remember that it was a Friday. I was 107 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: going ten, and I was here and the place was 108 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 3: going crazy, and it felt like to me as a 109 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: ten year old, like how wild it was. And then 110 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 3: after that it like it exploded. You know. I put 111 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: something on Instagram the other day I don't really talk 112 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 3: about it on like social media and stuff like that, 113 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 3: Like if you came to my place, like I don't 114 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: have anything hanging up saying like we're the home of 115 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: the you know, the pool and stuff. I made some 116 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 3: T shirts once that was about it. 117 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: You were saying, you know, that wasn't really your dad's 118 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: thing to go out there and brag about it, and 119 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: it wasn't really your mom's thing, and you're kind of 120 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: honoring that legacy by just running the business and not 121 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 2: bragging on what was there. But I do think that 122 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: it is something for the public, for the American public. 123 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: Like I said, we all look for a feel good story, 124 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: and it's something so unique because I think once you 125 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: break it down, you know, the first eighty eight people 126 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: begin this, but then as you go on and you 127 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: talk about how many people had to have the brackets 128 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: and how many people had to be calculating this became 129 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: a community wide effort to make sure that the brackets 130 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: were calculated correctly and the money went out to the 131 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: winter correctly. 132 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: Right. 133 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 3: Yes, it was very much a community based event. We 134 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: had I would say in the two thousands, we probably 135 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: had I would say sixty There were about seventy five 136 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: eighty people working this one thing. Like, we had computers 137 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 3: throughout houses. My mother's living room was filled with computers. 138 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: We had neighbors that would take in computers. Women like 139 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 3: my mother's friends. A lot of you know, a lot 140 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 3: of them are still here and they'll tell me like, 141 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: oh my god, I remember being at your house for 142 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 3: hours on end. And my mother would sit in the 143 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: sit in the kitchen. She my mother smoked cigarettes, So 144 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: my mother would smoke cigarettes in the kitchen, and she 145 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: was the money person. And we had a computer guy. Now, 146 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: another thing is that, you know, I'm happy I could 147 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: talk about this now because on the podcast you could 148 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: really I could branch out a little bit. But we 149 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: had multiple bars throughout New York taking picks, so like 150 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: if you went to Manhattan, you could find a place 151 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: downtown so you didn't have to drive. 152 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: So it got so big. 153 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was a big deal. We had multiple, 154 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: multiple bars in Staten Island, Brooklyn, and Manhattan, so we 155 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: covered three boroughs and you know Brooklyn and Manhattan. Back 156 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: in the day, I mean, it was, it was. It 157 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: was wild as a kid too. It was just it 158 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: was it almost doesn't feel real talking about it now, 159 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: but it was it was a reality what was going on. 160 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: So does that ever, I know, you say it's done, 161 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: you know it ended, You're never going back now that 162 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: this has gotten so much attention, is there a little 163 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: part of you that goes man, I'd like to see 164 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: those days again. 165 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, totally one. No hesitation, No hesitation. And I 166 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: used to have hesitation about it because you know, it's 167 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: it's a big deal and it's a legacy that we have, 168 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: and you know, I know what it would take to 169 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: do it, But you know, I worry about certain things, 170 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: like you know, I have a wife, I have three 171 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: young kids that I really care about. Obviously that my family. 172 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: You know, back in the day it was different. Now 173 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: it's you know, who knows. But I think it would 174 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: be pretty cool if I did it. I know it 175 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: would be a lot of money right away. But you know, 176 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: I'm enjoying this little ride we're on right now. You know, 177 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: it went eighteen years since we did it, and I 178 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: think it's as popular now as it's ever been. 179 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: Well absolutely, I mean my daughter came home, my eleven 180 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: year old came home from school the other day and 181 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: she's like, so, I got to work on my bracket 182 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: with Megan tonight and I'm like, what are you talking about? 183 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: And I think that's so funny that you have these 184 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: little kids that I mean, for them, it's just fun. 185 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 2: And you know that's that some of the people are 186 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: just doing it for fun. But for you guys, it 187 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: became a real money machine. But I think the best 188 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: part about it is it was always just ten bucks 189 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: per person, right. 190 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: And that that and that's the most unique thing. It 191 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: never changed from ten dollars and seventy seven to ten 192 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: dollars in six You know, people would come up to 193 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 3: my dad, you got to make it twenty dollars. He 194 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: was like, no, no, it's ten. It's the fair. Like 195 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: anybody could be walking down the street and say, hey, 196 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: I'll walk into JODI's, I'll put a pick in and 197 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 3: you never know, I can be a millionaire. 198 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: Like that was reality, you know, So that is that 199 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: was reality. 200 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: But that sounds crazy because the first one eighty eight people, 201 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: the winner took home eight hundred and eighty dollars. But 202 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 2: then suddenly, like you you fast forward years later and 203 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,479 Speaker 2: it was over a million bucks. 204 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was over a million. It went I remember 205 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: that numbers vividly. I remember in O two it was 206 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: like five hundred and thirty thousand, and then in three 207 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 3: it went up like two hundred thousand, and then oh 208 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: five it was one point two, and then in six 209 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 3: it was one point six. So we were on pace too, 210 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: Like if we made it to seven, we were going 211 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: to be over two million dollars. There was no doubt 212 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: about it. 213 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: Is there a point when that makes you nervous? 214 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 3: Like did you. 215 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: Ever feel like your parents were like, oh, my gosh, 216 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: we're responsible for so much money now. 217 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. My mother was, you know, my mom 218 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: was obviously the brains behind it, you know, like any 219 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: good man needs a good woman behind him, like I 220 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: with my wife smetually. Yeah, my mom was nervous. It 221 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: was a nerve wracking time. It was, you know, because 222 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: my father was. He was under a lot of scrutiny 223 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: back then too, because a lot of people what they 224 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: would say is like that's when like the chat room 225 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 3: started and the internet started growing a little bit. You know, 226 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: you could say something and you don't have to beat 227 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: your face to it or you need to it. And 228 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: there were a lot of hurtful and terrible things being 229 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 3: said about my dad. Now, my dad didn't know the internet. 230 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: If it spacked him in the face, he wouldn't have 231 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: known what the internet was. 232 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes it does smack you face. 233 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, my dad, he didn't really know 234 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 3: a lot of things are being said, but we ended 235 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: up telling him and that was a bad thing for 236 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: me because I was so upset to see such hurtful 237 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 3: things said about my dad, like you know, like he's 238 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: taking money's Jody's pocketing all the money like that, all 239 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 3: that stuff, and that was that couldn't have been further 240 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: from the truth. It really couldn't have been. You know, 241 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: he was an honest person. You know, he really cared 242 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: about the community. He helped run golf programs in Staten Island. 243 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: He was very into golf. You know, he really did 244 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: care about the pool and to see it and the 245 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 3: way it did was heartbreaking for him. And you tell 246 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: us a little. 247 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: Bit about that, because I don't think people know exactly 248 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: how it ended and after something. I think the important 249 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 2: thing to remember is this is something that, like I said, 250 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: brought the whole community together, because you're talking about they 251 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: had people across the whole community with the computers, with 252 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: the tickets, There were people managing where the money was 253 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: being kept, to keep the money safe. 254 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: I mean, this was a community effort. 255 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: At the end, it sounds like someone one of the 256 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 2: winners was they they reported their winnings to the I R. S. 257 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: And then suddenly he's under this scrutiny and I and 258 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: I think if you look at it from the outside perspective, 259 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, yeah, you're managing a lot of cash. 260 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: Now we have a lot more cash businesses, especially with marijuana. 261 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: And I think people understand like, Okay, there are cash 262 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 2: businesses and doesn't mean that people are bad. 263 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: But this was devastating to you guys. 264 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was brutal. It was December of six. 265 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: I remember the dates so clearly, Like you know, two 266 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 3: agents ended up coming in here from the Irs, you know, 267 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: scanned the daylights out of my dad totally. You know, 268 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: my father was like a frail man, you know, and 269 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: he really changed him considerably. Yeah, we had to hire 270 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 3: a tax lawyer, which ended up questioning us like over 271 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: two hundred thousand dollars for a lawyer. Multiple hearings we 272 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: had to go to in Brooklyn federal Federal court, and 273 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: you know, my dad had to like want like the 274 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 3: first like arraiment, like he had to like take his 275 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 3: belt off, he had to sit in the jail cell 276 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: like it was. It was. It was brutal for him 277 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: to go through that. And you know, they thought that 278 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: they were going to try and you know, maybe they 279 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: thought they were going to find something on him, and 280 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: they just didn't. They they they he underreported his income 281 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: taxes for three years, which totaled like twenty four thousand dollars, 282 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: so you know, in the grand scheme of things, it 283 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 3: was like eight thousand dollars a year that you know, 284 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: he you know, he owned a bar restaurant. So it was, 285 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: you know, it was it was hard. It was. It 286 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 3: was really hard. But in the end, you know, he 287 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 3: ended up just getting off, you know, there was no 288 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: house arrest, nothing like that. Just had to pay some fines. 289 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: You know. It really took a lot out of them, 290 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 3: it really did. It was. It was really rough. It 291 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 3: was rough on myself, my brothers, my sisters. Yeah, I'll 292 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: still never forget the day when you know, when he 293 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: found out like his fate in a way, like he 294 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: could have went to jail and my father would not 295 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: have lasted in jail. I don't think he would have 296 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: survived even the day. But he ended up getting off, 297 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: you know, because like we said, like he was very 298 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: much part of the community. He was very friendly with 299 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: you know, you know, elected officials, you know, judges, everything. 300 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: So people knew him through the chain. So so he 301 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: ended up getting off, which was a blessing. I'll still 302 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: never forget that. That was a Friday, and you know, 303 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 3: people came in that night and it was like a 304 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: celebration in a way. It was kind of a six celebration, 305 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: but you know, it was it was you know, he 306 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: was celebrating that he was he was coming home with us, 307 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: which was really cool and and that. 308 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: And he was just a pillar of the community. I mean, 309 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: people looked up to him. 310 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: He really was. He was he was something else. He 311 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: would he would do anything for anybody. He really was 312 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: a good man, you know, he was. He had some 313 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: great lines. He was he was really funny. He was 314 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: a character. I took over from him when he passed away, 315 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: and I I'm not I'm not. I don't try and 316 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: be half the person that he was in the community 317 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: because he was just such a He had the name too, 318 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: like his name is Jody, Like you don't hear him 319 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 3: many males named Jody, but his name is Joseph. But 320 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: you know, to everybody, who's just Jody, and it was 321 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: it was a tough time, but we did get through it. 322 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: You know, we've overcome a lot in this business. You know, 323 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: I've had to overcome a lot too, you know, with 324 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: COVID and all that stuff. 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We'll be right back with more about 353 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: March madness. 354 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: And I think that that's what people look at the 355 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: restaurant business and they say, manage. It's a really tough business, 356 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: and especially after twenty twenty and what we went through 357 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 2: with COVID and looking at I mean even here, I 358 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: look around and a lot of restaurants didn't make it. 359 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: But you, your restaurant has such a rich history. And again, 360 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: this is something that I've been talking to people in 361 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: Michigan about. I'm like, if we can bring back restaurants. 362 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: If we can bring back community. I mean, that's where 363 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: the history happens. And I talk about you know, that's 364 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: where we go after graduations and for birthdays and when 365 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: we celebrate a promotion. 366 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: Or when you have a big meeting. 367 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: You know, you remember the places that you were because 368 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: that's what your community is. 369 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: And when I hear your. 370 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: Dad's story, that's exactly what I want to see all 371 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: across this country. 372 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: Is your dad's story. 373 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: Is people coming together realizing that that's the place to meet. 374 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the Cheers story all over again. 375 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: You know, there's a whole series, one of the best, 376 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: most well loved series on television was about a place 377 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: like your Dad's. 378 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of people say that it's very 379 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: much a Cheers type place. Like I said, we're almost 380 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: fifty fifty years old, and to be able to say 381 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 3: that is just it gives me the chills. 382 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: You know. 383 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 3: I tell everybody when my dad passed and then my 384 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 3: mom passed three years later. You know, people tell me, oh, 385 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: you're doing a good job, and I just say, you know, 386 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: to me, I'm just keeping an eye on their place. 387 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 3: And that's how I look at it. You know, it's 388 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 3: it's a hard it's a hard working job. COVID definitely 389 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: changed everything in New York. Especially what was that like 390 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: for the club? Oh my god, it was it was. 391 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: It was rough. It really was, you know, to walk 392 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 3: into an empty building basically for a year straight and 393 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: then they opened us back up and then they closed 394 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 3: us back down the second clothes and I thought was 395 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: the worst because it was right before Christmas, and we 396 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 3: knew what to expect at that point, like, you know, 397 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 3: deliveries were only going to get us so far, you know, 398 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 3: So you know, we got through it. You know, I 399 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: had to lower my staff, and you know, my sister 400 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: still works for us. She helped us. My wife was 401 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: a big help. My wife was still home with our 402 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: kids at the time, so you know, we tried to 403 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: think of you had to be creative too, you know, 404 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 3: you had to come up with like food specials just 405 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: for people to bull up. And then some of the 406 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: things that they made us do, which just I mean, 407 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 3: if looking back at it, it was one of the 408 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 3: most ridiculous things I've ever experienced in my life. Like 409 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 3: one example, we weren't allowed to sit people at the bar, 410 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 3: but I was allowed to build a high top table 411 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: and put it against the bar and people could sid 412 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 3: at the table. I swear it was. It was so 413 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 3: I lost customers because of it. I really did. Like 414 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: I remember one guy, like, we had an outdoor seating 415 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: and they told us we weren't allowed to time people 416 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: stand up. They can only sit. The only time they 417 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 3: can stand up was to go to the bathroom. But 418 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: if you stood next to a table and you talk 419 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 3: to the person, you had to be told to sit down. 420 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 3: It was. It was wild, and I lost customers because 421 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 3: of it. They're like, are you kidding me? Turns. I'm like, 422 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just want to stay opened. 423 00:19:59,359 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: You know. 424 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 3: It was. It was a tough time. It was a 425 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 3: brutal time, actually. 426 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: I mean, and you were talking about when your dad 427 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: went through what he did with the irs and the 428 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: cost of that, and I think about how, I mean, 429 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: you guys really truly are overcomers. Because when I thought 430 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: about that, I thought, well, I mean COVID had to 431 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: have been pretty similar. 432 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: It had to have been a really significant loss. 433 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was terrible. And I joke around 434 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: with people too, and I always joke around with you 435 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 3: know now looking back and I always said, when I 436 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: go and I run into my father again, the first 437 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 3: thing I'm going to say to him is I had 438 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: to like how I handled that pandemic. 439 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: That's what I'm sure. I'm sure you're like, what would 440 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: he be doing right now? 441 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I couldn't even imagine. My mother was 442 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 3: a tough My mother was a tough She was from 443 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: Irish immigrants. Appearents were from Ireland. My mother was a 444 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 3: tough woman. My mother would have said, just stay opened, 445 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: I love it. Yeah, but my mom, you know, she 446 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 3: kind of gets lost in a lot of this too. 447 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 3: So he was the real like when it got big 448 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: the pool per se, like my mom was the one 449 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: who really ran the pool, Like she was the money person. 450 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 3: She was like, you know, when Mary spoke, people listened. 451 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 3: That's That's why I always say it. And we were 452 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 3: so proud of what we were able to accomplish. 453 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: It sounds like your dad was kind of like the 454 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: fun the guy that everybody wanted to come and see. 455 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: He was the welcoming He was kind of the personality 456 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 2: behind everything, and your mom was business. 457 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom was business. He was the personality definitely. 458 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 3: So if people were to say to him, Hey, Jody, 459 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 3: I never see you here anymore. My father. My father 460 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 3: would always say, yeah, tell my wife that, because my 461 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 3: wife would say, I never see you anymore. So ecuse me, 462 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: and dragged in multiple places. You know, we miss him. 463 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 3: I love. This is why I loved talking about them 464 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 3: because to me, it kind of brings them back for 465 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 3: a little bit, and you know, to think about such 466 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: great memories we all had together. Yeah. 467 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel the same about my dad. I mean, 468 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 2: it is really hard when you lose someone, but then 469 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: you get to talk about them and and this is 470 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: such a cool story, I think right now, So what 471 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 2: are you looking at right now in the bracket? 472 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: What's your who do you have winning at all? 473 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 3: Well? I went to Saint John's so they lost unfortunately, 474 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: So that kind of took the spirit out of it 475 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 3: for me. But you know, I grew up a Duke 476 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 3: fan as a kid. I mean, well, I mean, no, no, no, no, 477 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 3: I'm not really any more. I've grown up a little 478 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: bit so realizing I think I realized I was never 479 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: going to Duke, so uh, you know, I like to 480 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: see you know, I like Duke and like they're very good. 481 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 3: I could see them winning the whole thing. You know, 482 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: they're playing Arizona to night, just over in Jersey. So 483 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 3: if buddy of mine asked me if I want to go, 484 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 3: I don't think I could pull it off because my 485 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 3: kids are very young and we're very into baseball right now. 486 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 3: And yeah, opening Opening Day, Yeah, it's a lot of fun. 487 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: Big Mets fan. 488 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: Too, so well, I of course my first love is Kentucky. 489 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: I'll be watching Michigan as well. I'm going to see 490 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: what happens, but it's always fun. So in Kentucky, I'll 491 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: just say, Kentucky has no national teams. So when Kentucky 492 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 2: would win a championship, the entire state rallied around Kentucky 493 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: and it was just such an amazing experience. I mean, 494 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: having come from Chicago, where you know, everybody obviously was 495 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: excited about the Bulls, you had Louisville and you had Kentucky, 496 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: so there's this big rivalry right in the state. And 497 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: when we would win, the university would just go crazy, 498 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: like everybody would go outside and it was just this 499 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 2: huge celebration. So I watched that and I think, I mean, 500 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 2: that is really very cool. It is to me, this 501 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: is so needed right now because the political environment is 502 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: it's just so stressful that when we can focus on 503 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 2: feel good stories and sports and that kind of stuff, 504 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 2: it just. 505 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: Seems like it's a great escape. 506 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: And I love what you said earlier about their know, 507 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 2: there was no internet, so we were just talking to 508 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: each other, and this, I think kind of brings that back. 509 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 2: And so there is a selfish part of me that 510 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: would love to see you do this again because I 511 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: feel like that would bring that back. You know, even 512 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: though it would be online, you would still have a 513 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: lot of people that would come in and that would 514 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: bring back that sense of community. 515 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, no, it would. And you know I have 516 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 3: the name, you know, I have the JODI's name. Like 517 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 3: other places have run pools and they just they don't succeed. 518 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 3: And maybe it's not as honest as it should be. 519 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: But you know, I'm an honest person. You know, I 520 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 3: would whatever comes in would go out. I really put 521 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: a big, big splash on it. And you know what 522 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 3: you said before about the Internet and stuff like, that's 523 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 3: how much the ball business has changed. Like I remember 524 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 3: as a kid coming in here. You know, we have 525 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 3: the grammar school and walk in at twelve, and then 526 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: we'd have a at twelve years old, and we'd walk 527 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 3: in and be a full bar and everybody just spoken 528 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: to each other. But now like you look up and 529 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 3: I have a full bar and it's like, you know, 530 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: I have thirteen asked at my boss, and like who's 531 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: on their phone? You know, nobody's talking to each other. 532 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 3: It's just changed so much like I missed the old days. 533 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: I think the old days were great. I mean I 534 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: was such a little kid back then. But you know, 535 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 3: it's life, life changing, and you know we have to 536 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 3: adjust to the times too, So it. 537 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: Is is life. 538 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: And that's what I mean, that's kind of been there's 539 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: this tug for I think our generation, especially because we 540 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: do remember growing up and remember people always talking and 541 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 2: obviously not even having phones in school or any of that, 542 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: and then there's this there's this drive for us to 543 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 2: kind of pull that back. But our kids live in 544 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: a generation where that is totally different, and their way 545 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: of communicating is through that phone and through those apps, 546 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: and there's no I mean I can remember being on 547 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: my parents line in the house all night. You know, 548 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: my mom would get on the other line and get 549 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 2: off the phone. You got to go to school tomorrow, 550 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: you know. But now it's like there's this drive to 551 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: pull technology away from our kids, but that is also 552 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: social for them. So it's it's a challenge right now 553 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: to balance that totally. 554 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 3: Like my daughter is ten years old, Like she still 555 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 3: doesn't have a she doesn't have a phone yet, Like 556 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: my wife and I wait until the end of fifth 557 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 3: grade for her to get a phone, you know, because 558 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: once they get on the phone, you kind of lose them, 559 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I don't want to lose 560 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 3: my you know. I like having them around. I like 561 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: hearing them yelling, yell and fight with each other, So. 562 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: That won't go away. 563 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: I can tell you, even once you get a phone, 564 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: they'll still fight with each other. 565 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 3: Oh my god, the school drop wolfsh Hope I get 566 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 3: one good day at a five, I'll take it. 567 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: How many kids do you have? 568 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 3: I have three? All right? 569 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: All right? 570 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, two boys and a girl. 571 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: I have four girls. 572 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: And this morning, one of the first things I said 573 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: was do we have. 574 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: To constantly pick at each other? Can we just not 575 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: pick at each other? 576 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? Before we go downstairs, I'll say, can we just 577 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 3: have one morning go smooth and doesn't happen? 578 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 2: That's real life, that's the beautia of it, and I 579 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: so appreciate your story. Okay, so tell everybody how they 580 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 2: get to your bar, where it is, what they. 581 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: Can do, and how they can just continue the tradition. 582 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah, we're Jody's Club Forest. We're three seventy two 583 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 3: Forest Avenue in Staten Island. We're just a short, you know, 584 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: boat ride over from Manhattan. We're on the north shore 585 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: of Staten Island. Very much like we've spoken about, everybody 586 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: knows everybody. Everybody knows your business before even you know 587 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 3: your business. Yeah, you come into all place and you 588 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 3: kind of feel like family once you walk in. Yeah, 589 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: we're around, like I said, fifth almost fifty years and 590 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to keep it going as long as possible. 591 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 3: You know, we have great food, we have a party room. 592 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: Now. 593 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 3: We expanded and another thing we didn't talk about before 594 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 3: was like when we ran the pool, we were only 595 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 3: where this building I am in now, and we expanded 596 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: to the other side. So we added another like eighteen 597 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 3: hundred square feet. But it's like where we used to 598 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 3: take the picks over there, and that was a dry 599 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: cleaner too. That adds to the story too. There's just 600 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 3: so much to it. But now we're a restaurant. We 601 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: do a lot of parties, you know, very very family friendly, 602 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 3: very family friendly. Like our little league is right down 603 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 3: the block. We get a lot of families in after games. 604 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 3: And uh, you know, we're very proud of Jodie's and 605 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 3: you know we're going to keep it going as long 606 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 3: as we can. 607 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: Well, if I could encourage you a little bit, I 608 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: would say that if you put up a few pictures 609 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 2: or a plaque about the March Madness stuff. I just 610 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: think that that would be such a delight for all 611 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: of us from other states to come and stop by 612 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: and just see where it all started. 613 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 1: So I would encourage you to do that. 614 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 3: I will, and when I do, you'll be the first 615 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: to know. 616 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Thank you so much for coming 617 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: on today. It was so much fun to talk to you. 618 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: Yes, this is very nice. Yeah, and good luck to 619 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: you with everything. And you know I'll be watching your 620 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 3: show and I appreciate you having me on as well. 621 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely, all right, Terrence Haggerty, make sure you check out 622 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: the club. It's it's a place where, like you see 623 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 2: he said, it's for families, it's for everyone. 624 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: But it's got a rich history and it's a big 625 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: part of the community. So thank you so much for 626 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: coming on. 627 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: You got it to you have a good one. 628 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: Thanks and thank you all for listening today to the 629 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: Tutor Dixon Podcast for this episode and others. 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