Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, coleeen Wait, and today we have very
Speaker 1: special iconic group Bone Thugs and Harmony in the building.
Speaker 1: We got Crazy, Lazy and Flesh. I am beyond ecstatic
Speaker 1: to even be sitting next to you guys, having let aload,
Speaker 1: having Lazy do the cooking. And you know what are
Speaker 1: you gonna have us eating today?
Speaker 2: What we're gonna eat is a breakdown. Some call it
Speaker 2: a breakdown, some call it a spread. So you got
Speaker 2: your ramen noodles with a little chicken breast, a little
Speaker 2: pinch of jalapenos, Sprinkle it with a little bit of
Speaker 2: toritos to add a little crunch to it. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm a grill. I'm a grill those I'm gonna put
Speaker 2: some cheese on top, add a little flavor to it,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna have us an old school breakdown with
Speaker 2: not all they agreed. It's just like one of the
Speaker 2: brokens days.
Speaker 1: Problem Now this is is this well before Bowling, Thugs
Speaker 1: and Harmony or is this during after? Feel me in?
Speaker 2: This is Junior High the elementary junior high high school twenties, thirties, forties,
Speaker 2: Eating this all our life.
Speaker 3: And especially jail especially jail House too, because that's all
Speaker 3: you got, that's all.
Speaker 1: Yeh yeah, yeah, that's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, now when you're cooking this dish, I'm really curious
Speaker 1: to when you're cooking this dish on this show, if
Speaker 1: you are thinking about your milestones that you have from
Speaker 1: cooking this dish, because you guys have a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff you've done. You have a Biggie Easy Tupac collaborations
Speaker 1: Mariah Carrey. You know, we got to touch on all
Speaker 1: these topics, but I want to know all the behind
Speaker 1: the scenes. I don't want to hear anything you guys
Speaker 1: said during any other interviews. I want to I want
Speaker 1: to be in the kitchen with you guys. And I'm
Speaker 1: hoping you guys can spell the tea. Lady. You get
Speaker 1: on the cook you start cooking, and take me take
Speaker 1: me back to the probably the og original time he
Speaker 1: started making this dish.
Speaker 2: Well, I started making this dish as early as I
Speaker 2: can cook.
Speaker 4: You know, we started cooking.
Speaker 2: Noodles very very early, you know, so it's from the beginning. Man,
Speaker 2: we want to elaborate.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we was wed.
Speaker 3: That's that's all. You had when you was coming up
Speaker 3: even you know, five six years old, coming up out
Speaker 3: that ruder man coming out that ruder and everything. You know,
Speaker 3: we was uh, from the rooter to the tutor, from
Speaker 3: the very very very beginning.
Speaker 5: You say.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you know, you know, because sometimes even as little
Speaker 3: as a little g all you had was something that
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes you didn't have hot water. Sometimes you
Speaker 3: gotta eat that motherfucker. Excuse my French, y'all, sometimes you
Speaker 3: gotta eat it. Just put the water in there or
Speaker 3: whatnot and let it soften up and then go with
Speaker 3: it like that. Sometimes you didn't have a chip. Sometimes
Speaker 3: you definitely had a breast and uh and the ingredients
Speaker 3: to go with it.
Speaker 2: And uh so you will have to put the top
Speaker 2: over the lid over there and just let it just
Speaker 2: simmer down and warm water because the noodles, you know,
Speaker 2: the longer they sit in news the water noodles sit
Speaker 2: in water, they swell, they get soft.
Speaker 4: So you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So sometimes we didn't have the heat because we ain't
Speaker 2: had gas something at the crib.
Speaker 1: So before all the lifetime achievements and all the accolades,
Speaker 1: can you guys take me back to a time when
Speaker 1: you were making this dish and time wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 1: looking good and maybe you guys were just at a
Speaker 1: crosshoads of despair. Maybe can any of you guys elaborate, do.
Speaker 3: Know about the Vassilia when the Visilia went like like
Speaker 3: we had on one of our stops. Uh, we had
Speaker 3: a stop when we were coming out here. We had
Speaker 3: been out here for like two maybe two and a
Speaker 3: half maybe three months. We uh, we moved up to
Speaker 3: Vossilia and this is before the easy e this is
Speaker 3: before him taking a song and uh and uh, you
Speaker 3: know we was we was rough necking it real tough,
Speaker 3: real real tough up there. You know, we had came
Speaker 3: up on the little apartment. You know that we ended
Speaker 3: up ended up actually spreading graffiti on the walls and
Speaker 3: ship the apartment was really bad. They was bad, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. They sprayed a b boy on
Speaker 3: the wall and you know, yeah, not giving a damn
Speaker 3: about you know, getting kicked out and like that. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it was you know, we was doing a couple of
Speaker 3: things to come up, come up on a meal and
Speaker 3: everything and on again you know.
Speaker 4: We go what you mean, like robbing the piece of man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll hit up, but we'll hit up you
Speaker 3: know the eighteen nineteen Yeah, so yeah, so.
Speaker 4: It was it was four easy.
Speaker 1: So it was before easy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was before easy. You know, we had to
Speaker 3: do the thing, you know, the north Ridge earthquake.
Speaker 1: Had just oh I remember that.
Speaker 3: We got we got caught up in that and then
Speaker 3: so but we was we was we was on some
Speaker 3: real struggle ship for real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, you guys could so were you guys
Speaker 1: all just living in a one bedroom apartment trying to
Speaker 1: pursue music or.
Speaker 3: One bedroom two bedroom apartment that we shared. You know,
Speaker 3: it was all of us, all of us together, and
Speaker 3: you know, we had a couple of homies that knew
Speaker 3: somebody had to have two friends that was out here
Speaker 3: going to school playing ball. They had was holding down
Speaker 3: a little I forgot what type of job there was,
Speaker 3: but they knew they knew folks that can help us
Speaker 3: out and put us, put us in places as we
Speaker 3: was trying to get get it, get to get to
Speaker 3: our goals.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: So you know, ended up getting on a little general assistance.
Speaker 3: You know that the opportunity came to get a little
Speaker 3: bit of money after the earthquake hit, earthquake hit bam.
Speaker 3: It was money available for us to get so you know,
Speaker 3: you know, we was able to kick in a little bit.
Speaker 1: First time we went shopping.
Speaker 3: Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was It's nice ship. It was free money, all right.
Speaker 1: But did any of you guys have to hold down
Speaker 1: jobs when you first moved here?
Speaker 3: Almost we was themn we first moved here.
Speaker 2: We thought about it, but that ain't what we was
Speaker 2: here for. We was here to become rappers for real.
Speaker 1: Now, was there any point in this journey where you
Speaker 1: guys had naysayers or someone in the group starting to say, man,
Speaker 1: are we crazy for pursuing this? Was there any any
Speaker 1: room for you know, the doubt whispers?
Speaker 3: I mean, just not like that. It might have been
Speaker 3: like she because when we got on that greyhound just
Speaker 3: coming from Cleveland, first time we came up on the tickets, right,
Speaker 3: we came on the tickets to get on the greyhound,
Speaker 3: say you know, we're gonna go ahead and get up
Speaker 3: out of Cleveland. And it might have been the instance
Speaker 3: when we was on that Greyhound, when we're getting close
Speaker 3: to La where we realized, like, oh yeah, ship, dark,
Speaker 3: what we're gonna do, is the homie's gonna call us
Speaker 3: when we get there, when we get off the bus,
Speaker 3: if we if we call them as they really gonna
Speaker 3: come pick us up. We had doubts with respects to that,
Speaker 3: No doubts in okay, what we're doing as far as
Speaker 3: pursuing every measure to be able to start knocking on doors,
Speaker 3: to be able to start approaching or talking to whoever
Speaker 3: we needed to get to. But yeah, it was a
Speaker 3: it was a couple of instances, like because it was
Speaker 3: real serious, we was on some real you know, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, didn't have food this day to
Speaker 3: the next. You know, there was a long three bus
Speaker 3: three day bus bus ride out here, so you know
Speaker 3: we might have had on the ground.
Speaker 1: So how long till your next huge major milestone between
Speaker 1: that time and your huge major milestone And what was
Speaker 1: that major milestone?
Speaker 4: Meeting?
Speaker 2: Meeting easy was the first milestone because we was out
Speaker 2: here homeless at that time. And then when we got
Speaker 2: in the apartment for a few months, were just really
Speaker 2: just moving around and we finally met easy E and
Speaker 2: that was the really that's the start.
Speaker 1: Of we said you finally as in like you guys
Speaker 1: were like we're gonna We're gonna get to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we knew we was looking for Easy. Our mission
Speaker 2: was when we left Cleveland, Ohio. We was our mission was.
Speaker 2: We was telling everybody in the hood, were finish go
Speaker 2: meet Easy E. Were about to come back and do
Speaker 2: a video. Of course we didn't know, so we was
Speaker 2: lying like a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: And this is your your homies in Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it's like, y'all ain't gonna come back with
Speaker 2: no Easy equip playing.
Speaker 3: We're telling them we watch you know, little do we know,
Speaker 3: we speak in reality into existence by telling them, Yo,
Speaker 3: we're finna come back with a record deal, We're gonna
Speaker 3: come back with a with a whole situation, We're gonna
Speaker 3: beyond and uh and we're gonna come back with a
Speaker 3: bus and camera crew all of that. So you know,
Speaker 3: you know, so this is you know, we had a
Speaker 3: bunch of homies that was supporting us and always still
Speaker 3: to this day. You know, even before we made it,
Speaker 3: was supporting us to the fullest. Say it was there,
Speaker 3: but you know, you might have had a few, a
Speaker 3: few maybe one or two nay sayers here and there though, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: y'all niggas is crazy thinking y'all finna go do anything
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: So how did you guys approach them? Tell me the backstory,
Speaker 1: the stuff that nobody knows about. Please?
Speaker 5: Yes, indeed?
Speaker 3: Well, well, Cray you want to you want to chime
Speaker 3: in as far as like how they come about.
Speaker 1: How they come about? How did you guys catch them up?
Speaker 5: Man? You know, we just we just kept putting in
Speaker 5: the phone calls to his own like somebody from Cleveland
Speaker 5: gave us his number, well the numbers of roofless records,
Speaker 5: and we just kept calling every day, every single day
Speaker 5: until the reception is there was like, you know, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna make sure he called y'all back today. Y'all been
Speaker 5: calling every day, you know, y'all, I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 5: he called you back. And he called us backs. So
Speaker 5: he called his back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was that was a major situation for us,
Speaker 3: because you know, we struggled and hustled real hard to
Speaker 3: get to that point to even just get you know,
Speaker 3: to get on the phone with him. We end up
Speaker 3: getting getting him on the phone, auditioning on the phone phone.
Speaker 1: And where did you guys do it on speaker?
Speaker 3: I think it was Joe just put the judge put
Speaker 3: the phone out because I don't think that technology was
Speaker 3: out back then. It was one of them phones back
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety three, nineteen ninety three, the cord on.
Speaker 3: You pick it up and you know that down and
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, So you know, he we
Speaker 3: talking and in order to hear his voice, you gotta
Speaker 3: pass it. But when we was rapping to him and
Speaker 3: Craig sat the phone right there and was uh, and
Speaker 3: then uh, you know, it was spitting into him like that.
Speaker 3: But we we spoke. We spoke to him a couple
Speaker 3: of times though the initial the initial conversation and lay
Speaker 3: Lay and busy had smashed to the store, but he
Speaker 3: had We had talked to him a couple of times
Speaker 3: on the phone before we decided that. He was telling
Speaker 3: us that uh, you know, see he was on tour
Speaker 3: at the time and that's why it took so long
Speaker 3: for him to hit his back, you know. So, but
Speaker 3: he did that. The receptionist lady by the name of Keisha,
Speaker 3: Keisha Anderson, promised us that he was gonna get there,
Speaker 3: you know, make sure, I'm gonna make sure he called
Speaker 3: your back. And she came true. She came through with
Speaker 3: her promise. He called us back and he told us
Speaker 3: we was on tour. Matter of fact, I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: in Cleveland. I gotta show in Cleveland. Why don't you'll
Speaker 3: come rock out? Y'all want to do that show with me?
Speaker 1: So that was that was your next opportunity right there.
Speaker 4: That was and.
Speaker 1: Ground we go ease.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So he didn't actually invite us to be on
Speaker 5: the show with him. He just told us he had
Speaker 5: a show back home, and we decided we're gonna get
Speaker 5: back to Cleveland so we could opened up that show
Speaker 5: because we had hookups in Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, so it wasn't it wasn't definitely wasn't officially
Speaker 3: eshton Stone. Yet we still had a little bit more,
Speaker 3: a few more hurdles to jump through, so we uh
Speaker 3: we spoke to our folks, ended up getting bus tickets
Speaker 3: back home.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: So were back on the three and a half three
Speaker 3: day trip back home. You know, we get there, folks,
Speaker 3: Hoo hooks us up to be able to get a
Speaker 3: slot on the opening opening, one of the opening slots
Speaker 3: on the show. We do our thing, of course, hoping
Speaker 3: that easy get a glimpse of us and uh and
Speaker 3: he didn't.
Speaker 1: He did not know.
Speaker 3: He didn't, you know, because that's the way it go.
Speaker 3: You know, you got whoever your headline are for the
Speaker 3: shows and whatnot, they're not finna be out there, you know,
Speaker 3: checking out no acts or whatnot. So you know, but
Speaker 3: you know, we did what we had to do, and
Speaker 3: uh and stuck around to watch Easy of course, watch
Speaker 3: him do his thing, and uh and uh and they
Speaker 3: rocked the house him Gangster Dras, the BG knockout of course,
Speaker 3: DJ Yeller they always there, did they sang?
Speaker 1: And so what was that next milestone that got you
Speaker 1: got got got Easy to make.
Speaker 3: A move definitely. We was there after this. So after
Speaker 3: they were done doing what they had to do, it
Speaker 3: was like, okay, how we gonna make this happen and
Speaker 3: get this get this in And so we tried to
Speaker 3: follow him backstage. Me and Lay made it backstage to
Speaker 3: holler at him. While we was back there, Lay start
Speaker 3: spinning some rhymes and we had I think, knock he
Speaker 3: was out there. DJ Yeller was out there, you know.
Speaker 3: Easy he stuck his head out the door and immediately
Speaker 3: when he heard that sound, he stuck his head out
Speaker 3: like yo, y all them cast That was wrapping for
Speaker 3: me on the phone. That was that's y'all. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: he invited us in. He had already had company, was
Speaker 3: already like ten fifteen people crowd in his dressing room
Speaker 3: and everything trying to you know, you know, trying to
Speaker 3: pitch themselves to him and everything with me and Lay
Speaker 3: kind of like went in there and held it down.
Speaker 3: And while while we was in there with him, I
Speaker 3: was in his ear the whole time, like, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, you know, we got that mojo.
Speaker 3: I mean, we got that mojo right here, this next
Speaker 3: big thing right here. You know, it's it's you know,
Speaker 3: niggas in there, you know, trying to talk. They ship,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, spit their game and all that,
Speaker 3: you know, But we came out. I guess you know,
Speaker 3: he was interested in us.
Speaker 1: He definitely was. So take me to that first session
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. What was going on? What was it
Speaker 1: like working with Easy? Sure you don't want another pack? Lazy?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I need?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's acting like he's cooking for what he's
Speaker 1: cooking for all of us.
Speaker 2: Look, we'll be we'll be fighting over this one pack
Speaker 2: around here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, can use three.
Speaker 1: I'm like literally taking in this moment. This is such
Speaker 1: a cool moment for me right now to see you
Speaker 1: cooking this whole moment. Okay, yes, I smell it. I'm
Speaker 1: just making did I see you put Lowry's in the water,
Speaker 1: but you don't think there's enough salt in the ramin seasoning. Okay,
Speaker 1: So take take me to that first studio session.
Speaker 3: That first studio session was like, you know, it took
Speaker 3: us less than a couple of weeks to get to
Speaker 3: complete the EP. But he let us do our thing.
Speaker 3: You know, he let us do our thing. That first
Speaker 3: studio session. It was just us. He had producers in there,
Speaker 3: give it me. He had the producers in there, mahmieh,
Speaker 3: DJ Unique and Kenny McLeod uh. We had ideas on
Speaker 3: how to uh spit the beats and everything, and not
Speaker 3: spit the beats, but tell them the sounds that we
Speaker 3: need to h on, what to produce, on how to
Speaker 3: make the sound come out on the track. We would
Speaker 3: let him know, yo, do this, play this sound, do
Speaker 3: it like this, and they would come up with the track.
Speaker 3: That's how the first few some of the first few
Speaker 3: tracks was made by just humming it to him, humming
Speaker 3: the sounds, humming the tune to him and DJ Unique
Speaker 3: and Kenny McCloud was the was the man on the
Speaker 3: keys and whatnot and making it happen. And then all
Speaker 3: he came back with tracks as we as we hunted
Speaker 3: to him and I hummed it to him. They came
Speaker 3: back with the full tracks, you know, loaded, so you know,
Speaker 3: but he let us do our things off the rip.
Speaker 3: I don't think he got in the studio with us
Speaker 3: as far as on the foot of love of money.
Speaker 3: You know, Easy was the business man that you know
Speaker 3: that put the whole situation together when he asked us
Speaker 3: what y'all want to do? He let he cut us
Speaker 3: loose in the studio. He let he let us. He
Speaker 3: let us run it and do it and do what
Speaker 3: we had to do and come up with the records
Speaker 3: and the ideas that we needed to come up with
Speaker 3: for the Creeping On to come up and you know,
Speaker 3: to make it the eternal, the Eternal East nineteen ninety
Speaker 3: ninety turnal record happened. You know, because we knew Easy
Speaker 3: for about fifteens, maybe eighteen months, the last eighteen months
Speaker 3: of his life. We was close. We was like brother.
Speaker 3: He was like the sixth ball member.
Speaker 1: So when you look at just because I have to
Speaker 1: cover a lot in a little bit of time. When
Speaker 1: you take you've worked with Biggie Easy, Tupac, Mariah, I
Speaker 1: have to throw Maria in there, man, Biggie Easy. Who
Speaker 1: am I missing? Tupac Easy E Mariah Biggie Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So I want you guys to eat. You could choose
Speaker 1: your person and tell me, like, what was the most
Speaker 1: memorable part about working with that artist? You could go
Speaker 1: first crazy.
Speaker 5: I mean to me, my most memorable was none of
Speaker 5: those was none of those collaborations. It was it was
Speaker 5: with Phil Collins. Really, just so we did with Phil
Speaker 5: Collins that was memorable because nobody was expecting it. Phil
Speaker 5: Collins had never done anything with any rappers ever before,
Speaker 5: and we asked him to use the song and he agreed.
Speaker 5: So we pushed the envelope and asked like, let's see
Speaker 5: if he'll be in the video, and he was like,
Speaker 5: the only way I'll be in this video is if
Speaker 5: y'all come to Switzerland, and we was like, we'll be
Speaker 5: there next week. And Phil was there, like you.
Speaker 1: Got on a plane that time though, Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: Phil was there. He was kicking it, man, he was
Speaker 5: He was hanging out with us, just like and he
Speaker 5: told us the reason he cleared the song because it
Speaker 5: was one of his favorite songs. And he was like,
Speaker 5: I think if you guys liked it, you must have
Speaker 5: good taste in music. So I was like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's what's up. Phil. We called him field Bone phield Bomb. Wow.
Speaker 4: Wow, field Boone had a castle. He ain't had no
Speaker 4: match if field Bone had a castle.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah yeah. They called him Surfield, surf.
Speaker 4: Field, surf Field.
Speaker 1: That's amazing, that's yeah. What about you?
Speaker 3: Well, I'd like to think that it's it's it's a
Speaker 3: few of them. You know. I got had the the
Speaker 3: session that I had with a big pun of course,
Speaker 3: like but when he did did uh And you know,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Biggie Smalls because that that session was
Speaker 3: absolutely stone cold rock and roll.
Speaker 5: You had.
Speaker 3: You had, you had the Junior Mafia up in there,
Speaker 3: Little Season them up in there, Puffy up in there,
Speaker 3: big uh uh uh uh, Biggie Smalls up in there,
Speaker 3: and it was a cold man. We had the Hennes Seed,
Speaker 3: we had the we had the end though it was
Speaker 3: it was one of those sessions and everything. It was
Speaker 3: real crazy, you know, twenty thirty deep and you had
Speaker 3: Mo Thug. We got the mol Thug records up in there,
Speaker 3: and uh and it was just one of those uh uh,
Speaker 3: super super duper nice. You know, we got super blowed
Speaker 3: up in there, and you know so but dealing with
Speaker 3: and I got I got others though, you know, Big
Speaker 3: Pun too, you know when he came through, went to
Speaker 3: go do a record with Fat Joe. Fat Joe brought
Speaker 3: Big Pun in there and and uh he ended up
Speaker 3: getting on the record, writing the hook for the song
Speaker 3: No Mercy on my solo album and everything.
Speaker 1: What in particular about those sessions stood out that made
Speaker 1: him more iconic.
Speaker 3: The genius. The genius first of all, the genius in
Speaker 3: uh in a big pun because he he came up
Speaker 3: with the idea for the record, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He wrote the hook to it on the spot, and
Speaker 3: not even though he was writing at the time, he panted,
Speaker 3: He panted, just in a matter of minutes, said I
Speaker 3: got something for the hook. And the dude was a genius,
Speaker 3: you feel what I'm saying, you know, and and helping
Speaker 3: us come up with with the topic. And uh, he
Speaker 3: did that and it was his debut. It was as
Speaker 3: a professional world debut on the Flesher Mone solo album.
Speaker 3: So you know that that broke, that broke, big pun
Speaker 3: and you you know it was the rest was history.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, and then lazy I would say, we had
Speaker 6: so many I would say probably Mariah Carey.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I was, I was, I was manifested. I said,
Speaker 1: please say Mariah please.
Speaker 4: It was crazy.
Speaker 2: And Wish had already had like did most of the
Speaker 2: song already.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So when we came in, it was like everything was
Speaker 2: basically laid out. But I remember Mariah Carey. This might
Speaker 2: sound ad, but she had the greatest gifts in the world.
Speaker 2: You know, she showereders would love like she really spoiled
Speaker 2: us on that session on the Silverad, I only use
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 1: Of yeah because you had it all that long.
Speaker 4: It was all that did you see that sprinkle game ahead?
Speaker 1: I said, So you're saying, because Mariah, what you guys
Speaker 1: made the session comfortable was her personality. It was like,
Speaker 1: was she like the homie.
Speaker 3: She was the homie the great home.
Speaker 2: She was the host with the most you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, her kindness, her generosity and then the skill
Speaker 2: and Wish how she did doing her thing, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, and then she started flipping the flow
Speaker 2: so that the impression that was left on me was like,
Speaker 2: this girl can sing that how I know, rap kind
Speaker 2: of and sing it, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 2: it was like it was incredible to see what she
Speaker 2: was doing, because you know, that was one of the
Speaker 2: first super duper stars that told me. She was like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this like crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So that was one of them, that was one of
Speaker 2: them sessions that was unforgettable because she was Mariah Carey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let me tell you, Maria. I'm always gonna
Speaker 1: be a fan of like New Yorkers, of course, but
Speaker 1: Mariah is not only talented, but the fact that she
Speaker 1: could write so well preaking well, you gotta give I
Speaker 1: love a good writer in this age of non writers,
Speaker 1: do you guys know who the writers and the non
Speaker 1: writers are? Okay, I'm gonna throw some names. This is
Speaker 1: gonna get crazy, Okay, Drake, come on, break my heart writer, writer.
Speaker 5: Some people are some people.
Speaker 1: Have been debating whether he is writing his lyrics to some.
Speaker 3: Of these cats, some of these some of them you know,
Speaker 3: got sometimes they sometimes they got writers both.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've heard both.
Speaker 2: But I kind of see it like like this, Like
Speaker 2: if he got a group of people that he hanged with,
Speaker 2: a producer he deal with every day, he probably writing
Speaker 2: his raps and being dope with it, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. But if it's homeby that's like us, we
Speaker 2: in the group, Craig can come in be like that
Speaker 2: line could be stronger, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So you do.
Speaker 2: Have help besides yourself sometimes along the way. So but
Speaker 2: I think for the majority of the part, all them songs,
Speaker 2: he ain't write none of them or write mostly.
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely think he rollmost. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think he's a great rapper. I hate his singing, but
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: I think I think had a lot of help.
Speaker 5: Though.
Speaker 3: You can't be in a situation like that and not.
Speaker 1: Have still, I mean, yeah, especially the longer you get
Speaker 1: in your career, does it get harder and harder to
Speaker 1: keep it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No, it don't, you know, because if you love the craft,
Speaker 3: you're gonna be able to come up with ideas and
Speaker 3: keep the pedal to the middle. But that's not the knock,
Speaker 3: like catching like you know, you're gonna have people that
Speaker 3: present ideas. You know, you know you're gonna and even
Speaker 3: as an artist, you're gonna want to welcome sometimes you know,
Speaker 3: you know, different motherfuckers that if they got an idea
Speaker 3: something for a record, let him, let him, let him shine.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just want to point out that a lady
Speaker 1: just added, is that mayonnaise or miracle with he added
Speaker 1: mayonnaise to the ramen with the jalapenos, the chicken, and
Speaker 1: he's adding mustard. I am highly getting nervous about his
Speaker 1: ramen right now. Okay, okay, what do we call this ramen? Again?
Speaker 1: What do we call this?
Speaker 4: The way you love me in the morning?
Speaker 1: That's hilarious? Okay, So okay, let's see who else can
Speaker 1: I throw out that it's controversial? Well, you know, I've
Speaker 1: already asked this question before, but I've gotten answer is Carti.
Speaker 1: I love Cardi.
Speaker 3: I think she writes a little bit of her stuff,
Speaker 3: but I definitely think.
Speaker 1: She Yes, she got a good writer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she got she got you know you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So there was this big thing on the internet
Speaker 1: recently where I think most Steph said that Drake is
Speaker 1: considered pop What do you what do you guys think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, I completely disagree. I
Speaker 1: think the first rapper that ever went pop was fifty
Speaker 1: cent And I stand here and I stand by it,
Speaker 1: and I stamp it, and I hate it that he
Speaker 1: hated on John Rule while being pop. He was like
Speaker 1: a super hypocrite during that time. I'm not trying to.
Speaker 5: I mean, like, you mean he has some he have
Speaker 5: some pop records.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so do we.
Speaker 5: It ain't to me. It's really not the artist's fault
Speaker 5: when you cross over. We wasn't trying to cross over
Speaker 5: when we made cross roads, but we crossed over. So
Speaker 5: like sometimes the artists just get good music and it
Speaker 5: takes them there, you know, and some people get mad
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 1: And I do. I like that answer too, because it's like,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's art, it's expression, right,
Speaker 1: and you know, however it comes out is how it
Speaker 1: comes out, you know.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing about hip hop. See, hip hop
Speaker 3: takes on all types of different fashions and everything. Just
Speaker 3: just like I said, you know, you're gonna go at
Speaker 3: some point some of us do crossover, but it's still
Speaker 3: hip hop. But you got to recognize the fact that,
Speaker 3: you know, show that love, Give them them flowers. The
Speaker 3: ones that did make it that they they they they
Speaker 3: they pre hell into that that that that pop arena.
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying, the call they took, the culture,
Speaker 3: the culture took in there. You feel what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 3: but it's still it's still hip hop.
Speaker 1: And that's what I think people want. People want to
Speaker 1: hold hip hop hostage as this like gangster tough thing,
Speaker 1: and you know, it never really I mean, if you
Speaker 1: think about the origination of like Ello cool J, it
Speaker 1: was never originally meant to be just this angry, you know,
Speaker 1: stereotypical thing.
Speaker 5: So, you know, I talk about hip hop is like
Speaker 5: I understand that hip hop is just turning fifty years
Speaker 5: old and human years that's old. But then like when
Speaker 5: you were dealing with a genre that's not old at all,
Speaker 5: hip hop is still very young and then mature. We
Speaker 5: still don't even understand how to treat the legends yet,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like, so we need to
Speaker 5: understand that different genres can coexist within one genre. People say,
Speaker 5: you could have hip hop, you could have rap, you
Speaker 5: can have conscious music, you can have gangster music. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, like whatever you do, it's all
Speaker 5: going under the umbrella. Like hip hop birthed a lot
Speaker 5: of things, Like it just didn't stay the same. It
Speaker 5: shouldn't have no exactly, it birthed a lot of things.
Speaker 1: I am just going back to what you said though
Speaker 1: you said they don't know how to treat the legends.
Speaker 6: Can you talk more on it.
Speaker 5: It's just you know, takes spurts for instance. You know,
Speaker 5: like or other genres, you never hear country artists disrespecting
Speaker 5: the ones that paved the way for them. You never
Speaker 5: hear rock and roll artists disrespecting the walls that paved
Speaker 5: the way. R and B today you made because it's
Speaker 5: a different kind of R and B going down. But
Speaker 5: like you know, like you never hear that, Like so why,
Speaker 5: like that's something that needs to stop because it's really immature.
Speaker 5: It's really i mature if you think about it, Like,
Speaker 5: because this world is big enough, this industry has grown,
Speaker 5: it's big enough for everybody. Yep, it's a new artist.
Speaker 5: I've never known they got a million followers every day,
Speaker 5: But where does Nigga come from? But you know it's
Speaker 5: big enough for that.
Speaker 1: You feel that's an interesting that's an interesting take if
Speaker 1: you think about it, because you don't hear other genres
Speaker 1: attack each other never, never, never, Now do you think
Speaker 1: in hip hop has started as a publicity stunt or
Speaker 1: because I know you guys did all the guys that
Speaker 1: were like beefing at some point? You had all of them?
Speaker 5: Well, battling. Battling is fun, that's part of hip hop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's part of.
Speaker 5: Hip hop, you know what I'm saying. But like like
Speaker 5: when it goes outside of my lyrics versus your lyrics.
Speaker 3: You know, disrespectful life in the streets and just and
Speaker 3: just like the respect some point like period, Like I've
Speaker 3: heard some artists say things about Tupac that they didn't
Speaker 3: even have to say, Like, Okay, if you don't if
Speaker 3: you don't listen to Tupac, that's cool.
Speaker 5: Why disrespect this man and he's dead? Yeah, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Like, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 5: if if you don't like him, if you don't like him,
Speaker 5: that's cool. Like I don't like a lot of these
Speaker 5: artists out right now, but I don't you don't hear
Speaker 5: me on, but but you respect him because these like
Speaker 5: these people is out here, you know, they feeding their families.
Speaker 5: You know, they they they they could be doing way
Speaker 5: way worse things than like doing what they doing, you know.
Speaker 5: So so I don't never hate nobody. If you make it,
Speaker 5: you made it for a reason.
Speaker 1: What keeps you guys strong together for so long?
Speaker 3: But the brotherhood, the relationships that we carried all these years,
Speaker 3: you know, being uh, you know best friends were best
Speaker 3: for you know, lazy and I wish the lazy my
Speaker 3: little brother, wish my cousin Craig. You know, we've been
Speaker 3: doing him since like seventh grade. And of course Busy
Speaker 3: came into the fold. He was about maybe ten and
Speaker 3: eleven years old, maybe twelve years old when we first
Speaker 3: met Busy. So the brotherhood has been there for a
Speaker 3: long time, more than half our lives.
Speaker 1: And do you think that there's like I have a
Speaker 1: girlfriends that i'm my best friends are all based in
Speaker 1: New York. I'm from New York. Then there's like, I
Speaker 1: feel like, what keeps our relationship so strong is that
Speaker 1: there's an unspoken moral and ethics to the relationship where
Speaker 1: it's like certain boundaries it's not spoken, but we just
Speaker 1: don't cross them. Do you think that that level of
Speaker 1: respect and integrity is what keeps your guys relationship strong.
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, But.
Speaker 2: It's the respect for one another, the respect for what
Speaker 2: we bring to the table, the love we have for God,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Because we understand these these songs,
Speaker 2: these these milestones, as you said, we understand these to
Speaker 2: be blessings, you know, because we come from romy noodles,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. We come from a place
Speaker 2: where having things and being fortunate to have what you
Speaker 2: not what you want, but what you need. Being fortunate
Speaker 2: to have what you need. And we wasn't privted at
Speaker 2: all the time. So if he can contribute anything to me,
Speaker 2: it make me stronger, you know. And or he can
Speaker 2: contribute anything to me, it's like the iron sharpened iron,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And we understood that. We
Speaker 2: always understood that we were stronger together. We knew we
Speaker 2: was dope apart, but when we came together, the crowds
Speaker 2: got bigger. We saw that when we came together, like
Speaker 2: when we helped each other in the studio with the
Speaker 2: method of writing, and you know what I'm saying, All that,
Speaker 2: like those experiences is what is really what.
Speaker 4: Kept our group together.
Speaker 2: The struggle was real from the first from the jump,
Speaker 2: I mean, and then we were family. On top of that,
Speaker 2: we were the only ones we had to lean on.
Speaker 2: So when it was time to go steal some Romen noodles,
Speaker 2: I go get the cheese. He go get through roben noodles.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You get the jalapenos, and
Speaker 2: we just distrack the people in the store and we
Speaker 2: get and we work as a team.
Speaker 1: So sometimes you have great and I've learned this now
Speaker 1: that I'm approaching almost forty guys. You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm at the biggest mouse on yet, but I've learned
Speaker 1: that sometimes you have people that are great when you're down,
Speaker 1: and then you have people that are great when you're up.
Speaker 1: So when you guys were up, what were some of
Speaker 1: the challenges you guys faced as a group.
Speaker 5: I mean just just just being you know, people just
Speaker 5: trying to pull us in different directions basically, you know,
Speaker 5: like and you know, we had a lot of stuff
Speaker 5: going on, Like once a solo album started and we
Speaker 5: started having solo careerge it was it was hard to
Speaker 5: pull us back together because you know, everybody was doing
Speaker 5: something at the same time. But we always realized, you
Speaker 5: know that we had to come back and make sure
Speaker 5: the home base was cool, which was bold, and we
Speaker 5: just always came back together like that always.
Speaker 3: But it blew up on us so so big and
Speaker 3: everything and whether we was ready for that type of
Speaker 3: stardom of fame or not, it was something that took
Speaker 3: us into a hole. We knew it was gonna happen
Speaker 3: one way or the other, but it just took us
Speaker 3: to a whole another stratosphere and everything that came with
Speaker 3: the territory, and you know, had its ups and downs
Speaker 3: and everything I even did, but went through my spell,
Speaker 3: ended up going to the pen, came home, was able
Speaker 3: to pick up the pieces to the puzzle all over again.
Speaker 3: But the experience and all that it was that, you know,
Speaker 3: and this is our thirtieth year, you know, we're celebrating
Speaker 3: right now, thirty years of bone Thugs and harmony right now,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. So we learned how to deal with
Speaker 3: the snakes in the grass, the motherfuckers trying to divide
Speaker 3: this and divide that, while still respecting and having support
Speaker 3: for one another for what we're trying to do individually
Speaker 3: and having and having right now, you know, we respect
Speaker 3: and love each other enough, you know, to let each
Speaker 3: one of us be the individuals we are and bring
Speaker 3: in certain handle certain situations, and delegate certain situations, and
Speaker 3: trust each other enough to do and you know, help
Speaker 3: continue to build the brand no matter what it is.
Speaker 1: And you guys are all individuals. So have you guys
Speaker 1: learned to recognize how one person moves and go, oh,
Speaker 1: that's how crazy moves, that's how lazy moves, that's how
Speaker 1: flesh moves. Well, you know he gonna do this, you know,
Speaker 1: And it's more of a love and acceptance versus aggravation.
Speaker 2: I think we in the beginning it was aggravation because
Speaker 2: we was together twenty four seven for about ten years straight,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And then it became, you know,
Speaker 2: we start understanding each other individually and how we move,
Speaker 2: like why his characteristic complement mind well, while you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, So yeah, it was. It became a
Speaker 2: respect thing because we went from teenagers moving a thousand
Speaker 2: miles per hour with all these different changes, people whispering
Speaker 2: in your ears telling you this and telling you that,
Speaker 2: you know, we went through these things, but at the
Speaker 2: same time, the respect was there, you know. So once
Speaker 2: we got grown, start having kids and started seeing how
Speaker 2: we moved differently from each other, and then we knew
Speaker 2: how to respect you know, each other's moves.
Speaker 1: Now, I know some of you guys are dropping solo albums.
Speaker 1: When you guys dropped solo albums in the past, was
Speaker 1: there any I feel like I'm really reaching. I don't
Speaker 1: want to sound like I'm tearing you guys apart, but
Speaker 1: I really when I think of relationships, they're so complex,
Speaker 1: so I have to touch on these things. But is
Speaker 1: there ever any rivalry going on when there's solo projects?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: I think we support each other. We've always supported each
Speaker 3: other one in all of our endeavors. When it comes
Speaker 3: to that, you know, you know, even though I was
Speaker 3: the first one to kick it off with the solo
Speaker 3: ventures and I had the support of my brothers, they featured,
Speaker 3: We feature on each other. Yeah, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: whenever the case may be, we present. You know, we
Speaker 3: produce each other. We produce records for each other, We
Speaker 3: produce it. You know, we give each other's concepts. So
Speaker 3: when it comes to our individual tracks, hey, we're there.
Speaker 3: We in each other's corner.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking over it, lazy and he's fully, man,
Speaker 1: I put too many. I saw you dicing them and
Speaker 1: dicing them and dicing them.
Speaker 3: You can't never put too many.
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't like it how either, Craig. Craig,
Speaker 1: why do you keep moving so far away from me
Speaker 1: even in the shot?
Speaker 5: You know what? This meal is?
Speaker 3: Ready?
Speaker 1: All right, let's certainly yeah, yeah, we're gonna judge it,
Speaker 1: all right. His noodles look soft. Everybody he was, he
Speaker 1: was literally like, I wish the camera. I hope the
Speaker 1: camera call. How into your cooking you were? You look
Speaker 1: like you in another life you wanted to be a chef.
Speaker 4: In this life, I still want to be a chef.
Speaker 4: You might just want to get searched around boat. Yeah,
Speaker 4: take your eat the whole ball.
Speaker 3: There's another boat.
Speaker 5: Hilarious. Yes, you'll be eating. Nose be running.
Speaker 3: Either, the nose be running. Yeah, Like I just taste tester,
Speaker 3: because I'm usually you know.
Speaker 1: What I think? Right here, let me get your spoon.
Speaker 1: Let's see, all right, let's try it taste. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try and avoid the hollow penos because I'm like crazy,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to eat something hot.
Speaker 3: Avoid its damn good bus down like good, all right.
Speaker 5: You know what.
Speaker 1: Good good spikes you though, my goodness, my goodness, you
Speaker 1: can't even You're right, you're gonna even avoid the But
Speaker 1: you know what, it's good the last person that made
Speaker 1: Ramen on the show. I really enjoyed it and I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. The bust down makes it into the
Speaker 1: Olympics of Roman. Yo, lazy, I'm thoroughly impressed.
Speaker 5: We could have used.
Speaker 2: With the sorry jeans, with the put a little little
Speaker 2: olives on there, you know, but like I said, we.
Speaker 4: Ain't have a.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You know what I think really makes it unique is
Speaker 1: the cheese. Okay, but my goodness, if you would not
Speaker 1: have put so many peppers. Me and Crazy but really
Speaker 1: enjoyed this, right, like, don't you want to eat it?
Speaker 1: But you're like, man, I know it's gonna hurt.
Speaker 4: Well, y'all know for me, right.
Speaker 1: You guys are hilarious. So let's talk upcoming projects.
Speaker 3: Yes, right now, I have a solo EP out it's
Speaker 3: called Living Legend out on all streaming platforms. Make sure
Speaker 3: y'all go rock that. And they has an album out
Speaker 3: called Hypnotic Rhythms that's on all streaming platforms. We just
Speaker 3: we just leaked a brand new Bonn Thugs and Harmony
Speaker 3: Harmony single to the radio today called all Shit. You know,
Speaker 3: we're getting ready to go to the studio with Craig
Speaker 3: to jump on.
Speaker 5: You have a project that you have a project coming
Speaker 5: out in April called Chasing the.
Speaker 1: Devil, Chasing the Devil.
Speaker 5: Chasing the Devil. Yeah, it's exactly a follow up to
Speaker 5: what you did get a volume one. This is volume two.
Speaker 5: Chasing the Devil is basically talking about how people literally
Speaker 5: chasing the devil, but they but they don't even know it,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, that's what's up.
Speaker 1: I feel like the world we live in now, people
Speaker 1: are chasing the devil, but they're almost proud of.
Speaker 5: It, exactly talking.
Speaker 1: About that, like they are literally like, yeah, I'm doing it,
Speaker 1: and yes I know.
Speaker 3: No shame.
Speaker 5: So he may stream now these days.
Speaker 1: So you guys, you guys hear about the Illuminati and
Speaker 1: all that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't. I don't really get caught up
Speaker 5: in Illuminati because this is how I look at that real.
Speaker 5: That's all I want to know is how to look
Speaker 5: at it. I mean, if it was they invite no
Speaker 5: niggas to it. Yeah, period. They ain't invite no black
Speaker 5: folks to it. So all these people talking about this Illuminati,
Speaker 5: and how come whenever black people get money they just
Speaker 5: can't earn it? Why why does it have to be
Speaker 5: tied to the Illuminati. We don't say all the you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, all the other people that did
Speaker 5: get rich, all the other colors, we don't throw them
Speaker 5: to the Illuminati. We say, they are hard workers and
Speaker 5: they work for their money. So why is it different
Speaker 5: when we blow up and be real successful in what
Speaker 5: we do, all of a sudden we worship the devil
Speaker 5: and we joined the Illuminati. It's probably yeah.
Speaker 3: And you know, you gotta understand that the most of
Speaker 3: what you're seeing out there, cut the damn TV off man,
Speaker 3: cut the damn news off, cut that ship off, cut
Speaker 3: that ship off, and learn how to dial in, you know,
Speaker 3: challenge yourself to put your goddamn phone down, you know,
Speaker 3: for a while, and just sit there in silence for
Speaker 3: maybe five minutes. But it's the propaganda out there, and
Speaker 3: then come with one boogie man after the other, and
Speaker 3: it's all and it's you know, and it's and it's
Speaker 3: a mind war. It's an information war. It's like it's
Speaker 3: it's it's it's information on it. It's a battle for
Speaker 3: the mind, it's a battle for the heart. And yeah,
Speaker 3: we know God is real. The devil is real too.
Speaker 3: You gotta know how to balance yourself with respect to
Speaker 3: what you gotta do. You're gonna succeed, but you're gonna
Speaker 3: you're gonna put together a podcast. Well, are you gonna
Speaker 3: put together that podcast or not? Are you gonna put
Speaker 3: together do what you need to do for your family
Speaker 3: or not? And you know, just because you make it
Speaker 3: over the top like crazy, say that, don't got no
Speaker 3: you know that whatever this illuminatih F to them, Man,
Speaker 3: you got you make your own illuminati. We are own
Speaker 3: illuminati because they trying to stop you from doing what
Speaker 3: you gotta do.
Speaker 1: What is something that someone wouldn't know about you guys
Speaker 1: based on your music? Like what's a fun like something
Speaker 1: like if like, what is something I don't would never
Speaker 1: know about lazy h I mean besides that he's a
Speaker 1: good cook. I want more, but you can put more
Speaker 1: in my plate. It's so good. But yeah, what is
Speaker 1: something that we don't know? We wouldn't know?
Speaker 2: Well that I pray all day every day all through
Speaker 2: the day, while I'm driving, while I'm in the shower.
Speaker 4: People don't People don't understand about me.
Speaker 2: You know that my main thing and my main purpose
Speaker 2: in life is family, you know, because I'm I'm a
Speaker 2: whole most of the time. So you might see me partying, greeting, holling,
Speaker 2: clapping hands and all that, But really I take so
Speaker 2: much time to myself to calculate them thoughts.
Speaker 4: After I do all that, I.
Speaker 2: Take my time sit back, analyze, and I spend a
Speaker 2: lot of time in thought.
Speaker 1: So I heard that they're different. What an introvert is
Speaker 1: someone that can still go out and shake hands, but
Speaker 1: after they shake hands with people, they kind of get draining.
Speaker 1: They need that time alone. Would you say you're more
Speaker 1: like that or is just maybe not? It's not an introvert.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not an introvert. I'm outgoing than a motherfucker.
Speaker 2: But after that, I understand that I need to recollect
Speaker 2: what I'm doing and where I'm going, you know. So
Speaker 2: I take a lot of time. I plan, I plan everything,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I think five six seven
Speaker 2: years down. I've been thinking seven six years down the
Speaker 2: road since I was seven to six six or seven years,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: What I mean.
Speaker 2: And I just and that's one thing I don't think
Speaker 2: people would know about me because I'm in the mix.
Speaker 2: M They probably don't know I'm a mastermind because I
Speaker 2: think a lot.
Speaker 1: I like that. What about you flesh?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's it's a couple of things out there,
Speaker 3: you know. I like to fish a little bit. I
Speaker 3: like to you know, I like to gut and chop
Speaker 3: the heads off the fish and gut them up and
Speaker 3: everything and skin them and all that good stuff and everything.
Speaker 3: And I've played lately, you know, probably taking up more
Speaker 3: learning how to really really uh do the seed germination
Speaker 3: with or without soil and german A seeds and you know,
Speaker 3: growing uh growing pots and growing the raised beds of
Speaker 3: uh veggies and stuff like that and everything. It's a
Speaker 3: few things that flesh and ball that you know. And
Speaker 3: that's that's the main thing. That that the the main
Speaker 3: hobby that I done picked up that I done found myself,
Speaker 3: you know, spending a lot of time with those plants,
Speaker 3: you know, sitting around those plants, you know, just spitting
Speaker 3: off all that good oxygen on me and everything. I
Speaker 3: like the smell of the plants that I that that
Speaker 3: I sat there in garden and be surrounded in my loove.
Speaker 3: You know, you know, I can walk through like a
Speaker 3: maze of just you know, you know, different types of plants.
Speaker 3: Got the tomatoes over here, the cucumbers over here, you
Speaker 3: got the cilantro right here, you got right here, you
Speaker 3: got the you know, you know, and it's and and
Speaker 3: you know, and I got a little you know, just
Speaker 3: it's just it's just an amazing situation where it's asided
Speaker 3: me that that most folks don't know about I.
Speaker 1: Like, Dan, what about you? Crazy?
Speaker 5: Uh man? Some if people don't know that I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm a
Speaker 1: point on one man. Your hair accessories are beyond divine,
Speaker 1: like they are. Your hair game is crazy all thank you.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I probably say I'm more of
Speaker 5: the antrovercuse I don't want to be fucking people like that.
Speaker 5: I got, you know, you know, I got like if
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying that if it ain't my family,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying my brothers is like you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, I got to really know a
Speaker 5: person like you know what I'm saying, but you know what,
Speaker 5: I'm in public. I do what I gotta do. But
Speaker 5: I'm always being cool with the with the vack scene,
Speaker 5: with planning it being in the back scene. I'm cool
Speaker 5: with that for real.
Speaker 1: Now, are you guys currently reading any books that you
Speaker 1: think you would be willing to share with you know,
Speaker 1: our audience to.
Speaker 3: It all depends on it all depends on if you're
Speaker 3: gonna get judgment or not learn how to you know?
Speaker 3: You know, think you know, I will share a lot
Speaker 3: of you know, a lot of stuff, but I think
Speaker 3: I might, you know, just for the sake of holding on,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let them share some of the stuff. I
Speaker 3: will share, but you know, you got to be a
Speaker 3: little bit open minded, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'll share some stuff that i'm reading.
Speaker 4: What do you want to go first?
Speaker 3: You go first.
Speaker 2: So I like to introduce to like younger people to
Speaker 2: I read a lot of inspirational books. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's a book by James Allen called So
Speaker 2: as a Man, think of you know, book about this
Speaker 2: thick not too big. I pass it off to my
Speaker 2: children and people when I see that they need, they
Speaker 2: need guidance. I give them this book and it's by
Speaker 2: James Allen, and it's really about the things you put
Speaker 2: forth in life is the things you get back. Basic,
Speaker 2: basic stuff, but put in a way that any man
Speaker 2: can understand, any woman can understand. And it's inspiring, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I read a lot of autobiographies,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like, I read books like
Speaker 2: Nike to just do It that book, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. I like the stories of a man.
Speaker 4: That reached greatness.
Speaker 2: So I you know, so I can try to follow
Speaker 2: in some of the footsteps, you know. So I'm more
Speaker 2: of an inspirational book reader a Bible reader.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And that's what I do.
Speaker 4: I stay.
Speaker 2: I stay on the inspirational side. When it comes to books. No,
Speaker 2: not no fiction or none of that.
Speaker 1: I'm the same. I've always avoided fiction since I was
Speaker 1: a little little kid. I just never got into space.
Speaker 5: Yeah, always for the movies. No, but yeah. Really, like
Speaker 5: one book I'm reading now is most of the books
Speaker 5: I read is like uh, spiritual books. I'm reading the
Speaker 5: book now it's called a revelation. Is it's grand climax
Speaker 5: at head basically a book that that breaks down the
Speaker 5: Book of Revelation.
Speaker 1: That's a hard book to break down.
Speaker 5: Oh no, but when you read this book, you totally
Speaker 5: have the understanding of it. Likely.
Speaker 1: What's the name of the book again.
Speaker 5: It's called Revelation. It's Grand Climax at Head.
Speaker 1: Okay, Now when you read that book, do you think
Speaker 1: we're at the end of times?
Speaker 5: Okay? I was.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, because the first time I read Revelation,
Speaker 1: I mean I took the Bible on, I read the
Speaker 1: whole Bible. Revelation is the one book that I definitely
Speaker 1: one hundred percent was like, you know what, I don't
Speaker 1: think it was almost like listening to jay Z, Like
Speaker 1: I feel like there were certain j Z records that
Speaker 1: I couldn't comprehend at the time, and Revelation was one
Speaker 1: of those books. Like at the time, it just was
Speaker 1: so much that I was like, you know what, I
Speaker 1: don't think I can understand. Maybe if I go back now.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, you know it's some of the similarities things things
Speaker 2: that go on, Like if you look at the news
Speaker 2: and read Revelations, you'd be like, this is is really happening?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: So, you know, they say the revolution was being televibed,
Speaker 5: the Revelation is being tele straight up.
Speaker 1: Wow, real, what about you flush? You're gonna give it up?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you know, I've been you know. I
Speaker 3: don't know if y'all ever heard of Alex Jones though,
Speaker 3: but he's like one of the from Dave David Ike
Speaker 3: to Alex Jones. He has a couple of books out there,
Speaker 3: and one of them is called one of them is
Speaker 3: called the you know, the Greater, the Great Reset, you know,
Speaker 3: the Great Awakening, you know, and you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: a real eye opener, you know when it comes to
Speaker 3: certain things that's going on in the world today, in
Speaker 3: the country today, the Great Reset, as far as what's
Speaker 3: been going on in the world, what they're trying to do,
Speaker 3: as far as setting up a new system, you know,
Speaker 3: and uh that which Revelation talks about. I've been real
Speaker 3: heavy into the Bible and the Revelation portion of the
Speaker 3: Bible to be exact, and and uh and there's another author. Uh,
Speaker 3: there's another author by the name of Mark Levin, and
Speaker 3: he wrote a book called and uh it's a real contrary.
Speaker 3: It's not that controversial, but I'm just spit it out there.
Speaker 3: It's called the Democrat Party Hates America, and uh he
Speaker 3: wrote other books that, uh, you know, I'm pretty much
Speaker 3: a big fan of this man because he's a he's
Speaker 3: a constitutional attorney that breaks down the constitution and the
Speaker 3: real real he'll put it in a very education on
Speaker 3: why you get a lot of education. If you never
Speaker 3: heard of him, go look him up. His name is
Speaker 3: Mark Levin. He's and I believe he's one of the
Speaker 3: scholars of big scholars of our time. He wrote books
Speaker 3: like called The Men in Black and it's quite a
Speaker 3: few I got. I got all of his books. But uh,
Speaker 3: he's just breaking it down how you know how pretty
Speaker 3: much is this a lot of influence going on as
Speaker 3: far as with respects to you know how a lot
Speaker 3: of these parties is even no matter if some of
Speaker 3: these party h officials or are communists, actual Marxist communists
Speaker 3: dressed up under the banner of a Democrat or Republican
Speaker 3: but in reality are communists. So I wanted to, you know,
Speaker 3: and it's it's a whole information that's why it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's uh, it's a famous website out there
Speaker 3: called info wars and you know, and that's one of
Speaker 3: the things that I've been real heavy into because it's
Speaker 3: real eye openers. They go all across the spectrum and
Speaker 3: uh and uh and uh, and it kind of like
Speaker 3: gives you what you need, you know, how to protect
Speaker 3: yourself against you know, being shut down by a hateful
Speaker 3: Marxist communists. If you look into history and look at
Speaker 3: look at the history of communism, and this is explaining
Speaker 3: how you know pretty much how you know the government
Speaker 3: is corrupt and hijacked by these communists.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So not trying to segue, but I do want
Speaker 1: to know what you guys are doing in Cleveland.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, man, we're trying to do a lot, like
Speaker 5: a lot of things, you know, for our community, like
Speaker 5: where we grew up at, you know, trying to work
Speaker 5: on this project to help revitalize like where we come from.
Speaker 5: We want to put a bone throws, a harmony museum there.
Speaker 5: You know, we want to like just like help the community,
Speaker 5: y'all like it anyway, we can't go to call it
Speaker 5: the Harmony district, oh know. So when people come to Cleveland,
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a entertainment district. So when people come
Speaker 5: to Cleveland. They're not just saying they want to go downtown.
Speaker 5: They're talking about I want to go to the Harmony district.
Speaker 5: See what they got going. You know it's gonna be establishments.
Speaker 5: This featured their features both to us a homony like
Speaker 5: we gonna have a restaurant at Harmony Cafe. I like that.
Speaker 5: In the museum like a yeah, museum, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. Get a museum right on the corner of
Speaker 5: Army nine, your Knife and Saint Clair. You know, if
Speaker 5: everything works out. So that's something we're working very closely
Speaker 5: with the city.
Speaker 1: And then what else can we expect from you guys
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four and beyond books.
Speaker 3: We definitely working on the memoirs. They got a poetry
Speaker 3: book that he's working on. I've been I'm working on
Speaker 3: a memoir that I'm in the middle of. It is real,
Speaker 3: just getting real good. And so we're getting that. We
Speaker 3: got got talks with a couple of big time producers
Speaker 3: that's showing interest in the Bone Dug film. We don't
Speaker 3: know if it's gonna be a biopic I love that
Speaker 3: or some type of docu series sort of like How
Speaker 3: Wu Tang Did. This is when you got season one, two, three,
Speaker 3: four five or whatnot, because the Bone Duck story is
Speaker 3: so extensive, it's gonna be hard to impossible to squeeze
Speaker 3: the Bone Duck story in a two to three hour movie.
Speaker 3: Maybe two, three seasons, four five seasons.
Speaker 2: And we also, you know, we got a podcast as
Speaker 2: a group that we're doing.
Speaker 4: You know, Crazy Boone came up with the idea.
Speaker 2: It's called Thug Stories, you know, So we're working on
Speaker 2: that individual music harmony, house entertainment.
Speaker 4: You know, I work with all of our kids.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I work with my kids.
Speaker 2: I work with all of our kids because they came
Speaker 2: together as they grew up and they do things together. So,
Speaker 2: you know, just really capitalizing on everything entertainment, you know, entertainment, educational,
Speaker 2: you know, just just just giving back to where we
Speaker 2: came from and just making an impact on what we're
Speaker 2: doing it besides just selling millions of records. So now
Speaker 2: we're moving into the realm of our give back, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your legacy impact and giving back. Yes, my final
Speaker 1: final question lazy. When it comes to this music industry,
Speaker 1: is there some seeding that the world is not privy too,
Speaker 1: that's behind the scenes that you could share with us.
Speaker 1: That was a hard nugget for you to swallow. Per se.
Speaker 2: I mean just the music, the music industry period, you know,
Speaker 2: the way, the way that they misappropriated our contracts, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, the robbery and the thievery that
Speaker 2: went on, you know, always me myself Like today, I
Speaker 2: think the Internet is so important because we got we
Speaker 2: with our fan base, we can be independent without giving
Speaker 2: eighty percent or ninety or seventy eight percent, you know,
Speaker 2: the bulk of our earnings for our creations to somebody
Speaker 2: else to handle, you know. So the industry was built
Speaker 2: to keep the artists blind, you know what I mean. Especially,
Speaker 2: that's why they play on the young to the age,
Speaker 2: the age variable because you know, if you're a young artist,
Speaker 2: they can dangle to carrot in front of your face,
Speaker 2: and when you have nothing, it's easy to go for
Speaker 2: that care. But as an adult, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: the more knowledge you have, you don't fall for those tricks.
Speaker 2: So they put an age stipulation on you. All you
Speaker 2: got to be this age. But killer might just prove
Speaker 2: you don't have to be a certain age, you know.
Speaker 2: Adele she proved you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 2: these different tricks that they played to rob us, blind us,
Speaker 2: keep us ignorant to the fact on the contracts. And
Speaker 2: that's what I that's what I disliked about the industry.
Speaker 4: So we had it, We really had it rough.
Speaker 2: Coming up because we learned through. We learned through our
Speaker 2: own mistakes signing wrong contracts. So we had to get
Speaker 2: educated ourselves. And now you know, now these days you
Speaker 2: got the it's more you have more leeway to handle that,
Speaker 2: you have more control over your career. So the industry
Speaker 2: for me, the recording industry is now podcasts and you
Speaker 2: on these different.
Speaker 3: Social media like it's at the press of a button
Speaker 3: you can reach your fan base versus now crazy.
Speaker 1: My question to you would be, now, coming off of
Speaker 1: what Lazy was saying, would you say you feel at
Speaker 1: times it could be harder to market because now you've
Speaker 1: you've gone through all the genres of how music is
Speaker 1: marketed and distributed and bought and sold, and you've seen
Speaker 1: the rector label side, but now you're entering the new
Speaker 1: world of the digital side with social media and and
Speaker 1: what contracts to like numbers that are impressive or what
Speaker 1: have you, what would you say is the pro and
Speaker 1: the con of dealing with music in this new age?
Speaker 1: Going independent?
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I mean kind of like what
Speaker 5: he said, you know, like it's they're trying to paint
Speaker 5: this picture that you know, like we're washed up, We
Speaker 5: just all of a sudden forgot how to make good music,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And that's how they treat us.
Speaker 5: You know I'm saying just because he said, because we older,
Speaker 5: and they don't want to have those conversations with us
Speaker 5: about business because they know we know what we're talking
Speaker 5: about now.
Speaker 1: But now going independent, do you feel more liberated or
Speaker 1: do you feel more pressure going independent?
Speaker 5: No? Definitely feel more liberated because you know, like it's
Speaker 5: like again, we understand the business, we understand what we
Speaker 5: need to do to go around and you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, I just got to offer from a record label,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, actually put my album out,
Speaker 5: and what they're offering I'm already doing.
Speaker 1: So like why do you need them? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Why would I give you my album when I'm already
Speaker 5: doing that, you know what I'm saying. So, oh yeah, No,
Speaker 5: it's definitely liberating, especially when you have the fan base
Speaker 5: that we have from all the work we put in.
Speaker 5: It's very easy for us to maneuver around this system
Speaker 5: now because you know, like once we bring our fans
Speaker 5: to the internet, we have them at our grass now.
Speaker 1: So now when you guys collectively as a group are together,
Speaker 1: would you say you you make more I had to
Speaker 1: talk financials, more money on the on the publishing side,
Speaker 1: or the tours and the shows or the actual record sales.
Speaker 4: I will say we make more money period.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because now we own all the back Yeah.
Speaker 3: The money comes straight to you when you're doing the shows,
Speaker 3: versus how it did first it has to go through
Speaker 3: the record company. All the money goes to the record
Speaker 3: company first. Today we are the record company.
Speaker 1: But do you guys own all your publishing and everything.
Speaker 2: Publish it and we're soon to own our masters, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's another thing about the record company. We gave something,
Speaker 2: we created, we got to fight thirty years later to
Speaker 2: get control of you know what I mean. But once
Speaker 2: those things revert back to us. Now we're independent. We
Speaker 2: re release our music, we license our music, our publishing
Speaker 2: belongs to us, you know what I'm saying. So, but
Speaker 2: that not in the beginning. In the beginning, it wasn't
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Now, what does it take to own your masters apart
Speaker 1: from owning your publishing? Well, I know we're going over
Speaker 1: Oh we really only got a couple of minutes.
Speaker 3: When you know, you either, depending on what type of
Speaker 3: deal you got, either own a portion of the masters
Speaker 3: because the record company always going to own other portions
Speaker 3: of it. But you do what it's called reversion letters
Speaker 3: to where you let the copyright office know and the
Speaker 3: company know that, Hey, this letter is to let y'all
Speaker 3: know that we understand that time is up on those
Speaker 3: masters over here. We wan't full control of it, bast
Speaker 3: So you write your reversion letter to put it in
Speaker 3: there to get those and it takes about it. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: it takes thirty years. And then and then there's another
Speaker 3: downside of the industry that you gotta wait so damn
Speaker 3: long to get those rights back. But some of us
Speaker 3: are you know, able to you know, have the access
Speaker 3: to get that done. And now you know it's just
Speaker 3: a ticking time clock right now.
Speaker 4: But uh, you let me sum it up.
Speaker 2: Your publishing is the producers and the writers, the actual
Speaker 2: creators of the content. Yeah, the other side your royalties
Speaker 2: and things like that is off your sales, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So then what's the masters then yep, and that's the.
Speaker 2: Musical masters, the music in general, your masters is everything together,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So when you own that,
Speaker 2: you have ConTroll of your publishing, You have control of
Speaker 2: what you price your stuff for record sales, and.
Speaker 3: The overall not to cut you off though, but just
Speaker 3: the overall rights of the song. When you have the
Speaker 3: song that who owns the rights to the song? The
Speaker 3: light that it's to have the ability to license into
Speaker 3: this movie, this other page. Just keep over there sample education.
Speaker 3: Who do you have to who do you have to
Speaker 3: answer to? If somebody wants to use that?
Speaker 1: And you guys are almost there.
Speaker 3: I got a few couple more years yet. But the letter,
Speaker 3: the letters, But the letters have been sent and it's
Speaker 3: it's yeah. So so we just got this just the
Speaker 3: waiting waiting phase right now.
Speaker 1: Awesome. Well, I just want to thank you guys for
Speaker 1: taking time out of your hectic schedule dealing with Mike
Speaker 1: Toddler being super nice. So I want to I like
Speaker 1: talking about behind the scenes because you never know how
Speaker 1: people are, you know, when the camera's not rolling, So
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you guys what they're like
Speaker 1: when the camera's not rolling. They're really cool. They're really
Speaker 1: nice then and uh and very humble and lazy is
Speaker 1: a good cook. So thank you guys so much for
Speaker 1: giving me this iconic moment. I will never forget this.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having us got it on camera. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: And then there is there any way that fans can
Speaker 1: keep up with you guys and find out what your
Speaker 1: latest is.
Speaker 2: You know, Facebook, Official Lazy Bone, the bon Thugs and
Speaker 2: Harmony page of course Official bon Thugs and Harmony. My
Speaker 2: website is harmonyhousingt dot com and on i G.
Speaker 4: I'm the real Lazybone. I'm the real Lazybone.
Speaker 3: Definitely, y'all. Y'all can check me out and catch me
Speaker 3: at Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter's fleshing Bone bt n H
Speaker 3: on Twitter fleshing Bone btn H. I got a Facebook
Speaker 3: Stanley House on Facebook, but I also have the fleshing
Speaker 3: Bone page fleshing Bone btn H on Instagram and Twitter.
Speaker 3: Make sure y'all give me a shout out, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but ig is a crazy underscore bone. That's all
Speaker 5: I rock about. I'll mess with Twitter, Facebook.
Speaker 1: But and in people DM you guys, do you guys
Speaker 1: actually respond sometimes? Or no?
Speaker 5: Yeah? That bone Thuder and Harmony ig is btn H
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Speaker 3: So y'all official bond Official bonduds in Harmony on on
Speaker 3: on a Facebook. So y'all make sure y'all chime in
Speaker 3: with us.
Speaker 7: Secret ingredient all right, listen up, y'all. The secret ingredient
Speaker 7: that kept this legendary group bone Thugs in Harmony pushing
Speaker 7: forward over three decades is tenacity. This iconic group of
Speaker 7: young men face some serious obstacles on their paths to success,
Speaker 7: their mental and moral strength to resist opposition never faltered.
Speaker 7: Five young teens got on a bus from Cleveland, Ohio,
Speaker 7: to Los Angeles with one mission in getting easy to
Speaker 7: see their rap skills. When they first arrived in LA,
Speaker 7: they were dead broke, sleeping on floors and scraping by
Speaker 7: on Ramen noodles, But they refused to give up on
Speaker 7: their dreams. Instead, they kept calling easy EA's office every
Speaker 7: single day until they finally got them on the line. Well,
Speaker 7: the tenacity paid off when EASYE signed them to his
Speaker 7: Rootless Records label. From there, these young men secured iconic
Speaker 7: collaborations with Mariah Carey, Phil Collins, Big Pond, and Biggie Small's,
Speaker 7: going on to being one of the biggest hip hop
Speaker 7: groups of all time, selling over fifty million records. Through
Speaker 7: it all, their tenacious spirit kept them pushing forward, perfecting
Speaker 7: their craft and refusing to take no for an answer.
Speaker 7: That tenacity is what opened so many doors for Bone
Speaker 7: Thugs over the years. While other artists are cool, resting
Speaker 7: on their laurels, this group is constantly reinventing, reaching out
Speaker 7: for that next level, whether it's breaking down bears in
Speaker 7: the studio, killing shit on the road, or using their
Speaker 7: platform to uplift their community. Their drive and determination is
Speaker 7: the fire that keeps them going. So take note, fam
Speaker 7: When tenacity is your secret ingredient, you slide on every
Speaker 7: opportunity and out maneuver any adversary, and when it's showtime,
Speaker 7: you rock the house. That's the Bone Thugs blueprint and
Speaker 7: it's the ingredient we all need in our life. Kitchen,
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