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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, coleeen Wait, and today we have very

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Speaker 1: special iconic group Bone Thugs and Harmony in the building.

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Speaker 1: We got Crazy, Lazy and Flesh. I am beyond ecstatic

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Speaker 1: to even be sitting next to you guys, having let aload,

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Speaker 1: having Lazy do the cooking. And you know what are

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Speaker 1: you gonna have us eating today?

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Speaker 2: What we're gonna eat is a breakdown. Some call it

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Speaker 2: a breakdown, some call it a spread. So you got

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Speaker 2: your ramen noodles with a little chicken breast, a little

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Speaker 2: pinch of jalapenos, Sprinkle it with a little bit of

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Speaker 2: toritos to add a little crunch to it. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm a grill. I'm a grill those I'm gonna put

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Speaker 2: some cheese on top, add a little flavor to it,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna have us an old school breakdown with

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Speaker 2: not all they agreed. It's just like one of the

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Speaker 2: brokens days.

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Speaker 1: Problem Now this is is this well before Bowling, Thugs

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Speaker 1: and Harmony or is this during after? Feel me in?

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Speaker 2: This is Junior High the elementary junior high high school twenties, thirties, forties,

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Speaker 2: Eating this all our life.

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Speaker 3: And especially jail especially jail House too, because that's all

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Speaker 3: you got, that's all.

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Speaker 1: Yeh yeah, yeah, that's hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now, now when you're cooking this dish, I'm really curious

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Speaker 1: to when you're cooking this dish on this show, if

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Speaker 1: you are thinking about your milestones that you have from

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Speaker 1: cooking this dish, because you guys have a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff you've done. You have a Biggie Easy Tupac collaborations

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Speaker 1: Mariah Carrey. You know, we got to touch on all

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Speaker 1: these topics, but I want to know all the behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes. I don't want to hear anything you guys

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Speaker 1: said during any other interviews. I want to I want

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Speaker 1: to be in the kitchen with you guys. And I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping you guys can spell the tea. Lady. You get

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Speaker 1: on the cook you start cooking, and take me take

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Speaker 1: me back to the probably the og original time he

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Speaker 1: started making this dish.

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Speaker 2: Well, I started making this dish as early as I

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Speaker 2: can cook.

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Speaker 4: You know, we started cooking.

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Speaker 2: Noodles very very early, you know, so it's from the beginning. Man,

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Speaker 2: we want to elaborate.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we was wed.

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Speaker 3: That's that's all. You had when you was coming up

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Speaker 3: even you know, five six years old, coming up out

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Speaker 3: that ruder man coming out that ruder and everything. You know,

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Speaker 3: we was uh, from the rooter to the tutor, from

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Speaker 3: the very very very beginning.

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Speaker 5: You say.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you know, you know, because sometimes even as little

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Speaker 3: as a little g all you had was something that

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Speaker 3: you know, sometimes you didn't have hot water. Sometimes you

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Speaker 3: gotta eat that motherfucker. Excuse my French, y'all, sometimes you

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Speaker 3: gotta eat it. Just put the water in there or

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Speaker 3: whatnot and let it soften up and then go with

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Speaker 3: it like that. Sometimes you didn't have a chip. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: you definitely had a breast and uh and the ingredients

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Speaker 3: to go with it.

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Speaker 2: And uh so you will have to put the top

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Speaker 2: over the lid over there and just let it just

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Speaker 2: simmer down and warm water because the noodles, you know,

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Speaker 2: the longer they sit in news the water noodles sit

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Speaker 2: in water, they swell, they get soft.

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Speaker 4: So you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So sometimes we didn't have the heat because we ain't

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Speaker 1: So before all the lifetime achievements and all the accolades,

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Speaker 1: can you guys take me back to a time when

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Speaker 1: you were making this dish and time wasn't it wasn't

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Speaker 1: looking good and maybe you guys were just at a

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Speaker 1: crosshoads of despair. Maybe can any of you guys elaborate, do.

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Speaker 3: Know about the Vassilia when the Visilia went like like

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Speaker 3: we had on one of our stops. Uh, we had

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Speaker 3: been out here for like two maybe two and a

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Speaker 3: half maybe three months. We uh, we moved up to

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Speaker 3: know we was we was rough necking it real tough,

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Speaker 3: real real tough up there. You know, we had came

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Speaker 3: up ended up actually spreading graffiti on the walls and

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Speaker 3: ship the apartment was really bad. They was bad, you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. They sprayed a b boy on

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Speaker 3: about you know, getting kicked out and like that. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was you know, we was doing a couple of

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Speaker 3: everything and on again you know.

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Speaker 4: We go what you mean, like robbing the piece of man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll hit up, but we'll hit up you

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Speaker 3: know the eighteen nineteen Yeah, so yeah, so.

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Speaker 4: It was it was four easy.

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Speaker 1: So it was before easy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was before easy. You know, we had to

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Speaker 3: do the thing, you know, the north Ridge earthquake.

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Speaker 1: Had just oh I remember that.

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Speaker 3: We got we got caught up in that and then

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Speaker 3: so but we was we was we was on some

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Speaker 3: real struggle ship for real.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, you guys could so were you guys

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Speaker 1: all just living in a one bedroom apartment trying to

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Speaker 1: pursue music or.

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Speaker 3: One bedroom two bedroom apartment that we shared. You know,

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Speaker 3: it was all of us, all of us together, and

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Speaker 3: you know, we had a couple of homies that knew

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Speaker 3: going to school playing ball. They had was holding down

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Speaker 3: a little I forgot what type of job there was,

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Speaker 3: but they knew they knew folks that can help us

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Speaker 3: out and put us, put us in places as we

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Speaker 3: was trying to get get it, get to get to

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: So you know, ended up getting on a little general assistance.

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Speaker 3: You know that the opportunity came to get a little

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Speaker 3: bit of money after the earthquake hit, earthquake hit bam.

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Speaker 3: It was money available for us to get so you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, we was able to kick in a little bit.

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Speaker 1: First time we went shopping.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was It's nice ship. It was free money, all right.

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Speaker 1: But did any of you guys have to hold down

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Speaker 1: jobs when you first moved here?

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Speaker 3: Almost we was themn we first moved here.

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Speaker 2: We thought about it, but that ain't what we was

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Speaker 2: here for. We was here to become rappers for real.

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Speaker 1: Now, was there any point in this journey where you

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Speaker 1: guys had naysayers or someone in the group starting to say, man,

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Speaker 1: are we crazy for pursuing this? Was there any any

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Speaker 3: I mean, just not like that. It might have been

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Speaker 3: like she because when we got on that greyhound just

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Speaker 3: coming from Cleveland, first time we came up on the tickets, right,

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Speaker 3: we came on the tickets to get on the greyhound,

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Speaker 3: say you know, we're gonna go ahead and get up

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Speaker 3: when we was on that Greyhound, when we're getting close

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Speaker 3: to La where we realized, like, oh yeah, ship, dark,

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Speaker 3: what we're gonna do, is the homie's gonna call us

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Speaker 3: when we get there, when we get off the bus,

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Speaker 3: if we if we call them as they really gonna

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Speaker 3: come pick us up. We had doubts with respects to that,

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Speaker 3: No doubts in okay, what we're doing as far as

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Speaker 3: pursuing every measure to be able to start knocking on doors,

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Speaker 3: we needed to get to. But yeah, it was a

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Speaker 3: it was a couple of instances, like because it was

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Speaker 3: you know, you know, didn't have food this day to

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Speaker 3: the next. You know, there was a long three bus

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Speaker 3: we might have had on the ground.

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Speaker 1: So how long till your next huge major milestone between

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Speaker 1: that time and your huge major milestone And what was

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Speaker 1: that major milestone?

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Speaker 4: Meeting?

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Speaker 2: Meeting easy was the first milestone because we was out

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Speaker 2: here homeless at that time. And then when we got

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Speaker 2: in the apartment for a few months, were just really

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Speaker 2: just moving around and we finally met easy E and

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Speaker 2: that was the really that's the start.

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Speaker 1: Of we said you finally as in like you guys

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Speaker 1: were like we're gonna We're gonna get to him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we knew we was looking for Easy. Our mission

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Speaker 2: was when we left Cleveland, Ohio. We was our mission was.

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Speaker 2: We was telling everybody in the hood, were finish go

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Speaker 2: meet Easy E. Were about to come back and do

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Speaker 2: a video. Of course we didn't know, so we was

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Speaker 2: lying like a motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: And this is your your homies in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it's like, y'all ain't gonna come back with

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Speaker 2: no Easy equip playing.

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Speaker 3: We're telling them we watch you know, little do we know,

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Speaker 3: we speak in reality into existence by telling them, Yo,

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Speaker 3: we're finna come back with a record deal, We're gonna

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Speaker 3: come back with a with a whole situation, We're gonna

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Speaker 3: you know, so this is you know, we had a

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Speaker 3: was supporting us to the fullest. Say it was there,

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Speaker 3: but you know, you might have had a few, a

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Speaker 3: few maybe one or two nay sayers here and there though, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: y'all niggas is crazy thinking y'all finna go do anything

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Speaker 1: So how did you guys approach them? Tell me the backstory,

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Speaker 1: the stuff that nobody knows about. Please?

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Speaker 5: Yes, indeed?

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Speaker 3: Well, well, Cray you want to you want to chime

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Speaker 3: in as far as like how they come about.

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Speaker 1: How they come about? How did you guys catch them up?

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Speaker 5: Man? You know, we just we just kept putting in

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Speaker 5: gave us his number, well the numbers of roofless records,

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Speaker 5: and we just kept calling every day, every single day

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Speaker 5: gonna make sure he called y'all back today. Y'all been

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Speaker 5: calling every day, you know, y'all, I'm gonna make sure

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Speaker 5: he called you back. And he called us backs. So

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Speaker 5: he called his back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was that was a major situation for us,

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Speaker 3: because you know, we struggled and hustled real hard to

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Speaker 3: get to that point to even just get you know,

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Speaker 3: to get on the phone with him. We end up

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Speaker 3: getting getting him on the phone, auditioning on the phone phone.

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Speaker 1: And where did you guys do it on speaker?

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Speaker 3: I think it was Joe just put the judge put

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Speaker 3: the phone out because I don't think that technology was

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Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety three, nineteen ninety three, the cord on.

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Speaker 3: You pick it up and you know that down and

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, So you know, he we

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Speaker 3: pass it. But when we was rapping to him and

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Speaker 1: He definitely was. So take me to that first session

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Speaker 2: Look, we'll be we'll be fighting over this one pack

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Speaker 1: I'm like literally taking in this moment. This is such

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Speaker 5: that's what's up. Phil. We called him field Bone phield Bomb. Wow.

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Speaker 4: Wow, field Boone had a castle. He ain't had no

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Speaker 1: That's amazing, that's yeah. What about you?

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Speaker 3: You had, you had the Junior Mafia up in there,

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Speaker 3: So you know that that broke, that broke, big pun

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, and then lazy I would say, we had

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I was, I was, I was manifested. I said,

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Speaker 1: please say Mariah please.

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Speaker 4: It was crazy.

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Speaker 2: And Wish had already had like did most of the

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So when we came in, it was like everything was

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Speaker 2: You know, she showereders would love like she really spoiled

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Speaker 2: us on that session on the Silverad, I only use

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Speaker 1: Of yeah because you had it all that long.

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Speaker 4: It was all that did you see that sprinkle game ahead?

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Speaker 1: made the session comfortable was her personality. It was like,

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00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: was she like the homie.

440
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 3: She was the homie the great home.

441
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 2: She was the host with the most you know what

442
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,959
Speaker 2: I mean, her kindness, her generosity and then the skill

443
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 2: and Wish how she did doing her thing, you know

444
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 2: what I mean, and then she started flipping the flow

445
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: so that the impression that was left on me was like,

446
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 2: this girl can sing that how I know, rap kind

447
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 2: of and sing it, you know what I'm saying. So

448
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: it was like it was incredible to see what she

449
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 2: was doing, because you know, that was one of the

450
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 2: first super duper stars that told me. She was like,

451
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this like crazy, you know what I'm saying.

452
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: So that was one of them, that was one of

453
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 2: them sessions that was unforgettable because she was Mariah Carey.

454
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let me tell you, Maria. I'm always gonna

455
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: be a fan of like New Yorkers, of course, but

456
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: Mariah is not only talented, but the fact that she

457
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: could write so well preaking well, you gotta give I

458
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 1: love a good writer in this age of non writers,

459
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: do you guys know who the writers and the non

460
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: writers are? Okay, I'm gonna throw some names. This is

461
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: gonna get crazy, Okay, Drake, come on, break my heart writer, writer.

462
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 5: Some people are some people.

463
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: Have been debating whether he is writing his lyrics to some.

464
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: Of these cats, some of these some of them you know,

465
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 3: got sometimes they sometimes they got writers both.

466
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've heard both.

467
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: But I kind of see it like like this, Like

468
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: if he got a group of people that he hanged with,

469
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 2: a producer he deal with every day, he probably writing

470
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 2: his raps and being dope with it, you know what

471
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 2: I mean. But if it's homeby that's like us, we

472
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: in the group, Craig can come in be like that

473
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: line could be stronger, you know what I'm saying.

474
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 4: So you do.

475
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 2: Have help besides yourself sometimes along the way. So but

476
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: I think for the majority of the part, all them songs,

477
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: he ain't write none of them or write mostly.

478
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely think he rollmost. I mean, I

479
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: think he's a great rapper. I hate his singing, but

480
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: you know.

481
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 3: I think I think had a lot of help.

482
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 5: Though.

483
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 3: You can't be in a situation like that and not.

484
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: Have still, I mean, yeah, especially the longer you get

485
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: in your career, does it get harder and harder to

486
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: keep it?

487
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 4: No?

488
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 3: No, it don't, you know, because if you love the craft,

489
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 3: you're gonna be able to come up with ideas and

490
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 3: keep the pedal to the middle. But that's not the knock,

491
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 3: like catching like you know, you're gonna have people that

492
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 3: present ideas. You know, you know you're gonna and even

493
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 3: as an artist, you're gonna want to welcome sometimes you know,

494
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 3: you know, different motherfuckers that if they got an idea

495
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 3: something for a record, let him, let him, let him shine.

496
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just want to point out that a lady

497
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: just added, is that mayonnaise or miracle with he added

498
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: mayonnaise to the ramen with the jalapenos, the chicken, and

499
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: he's adding mustard. I am highly getting nervous about his

500
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 1: ramen right now. Okay, okay, what do we call this ramen? Again?

501
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: What do we call this?

502
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 4: The way you love me in the morning?

503
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,959
Speaker 1: That's hilarious? Okay, So okay, let's see who else can

504
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: I throw out that it's controversial? Well, you know, I've

505
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: already asked this question before, but I've gotten answer is Carti.

506
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: I love Cardi.

507
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 3: I think she writes a little bit of her stuff,

508
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 3: but I definitely think.

509
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: She Yes, she got a good writer.

510
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, she got she got you know you know.

511
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. So there was this big thing on the internet

512
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: recently where I think most Steph said that Drake is

513
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: considered pop What do you what do you guys think

514
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, I completely disagree. I

515
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: think the first rapper that ever went pop was fifty

516
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: cent And I stand here and I stand by it,

517
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: and I stamp it, and I hate it that he

518
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: hated on John Rule while being pop. He was like

519
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: a super hypocrite during that time. I'm not trying to.

520
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 5: I mean, like, you mean he has some he have

521
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 5: some pop records.

522
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, so do we.

523
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 5: It ain't to me. It's really not the artist's fault

524
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 5: when you cross over. We wasn't trying to cross over

525
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 5: when we made cross roads, but we crossed over. So

526
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 5: like sometimes the artists just get good music and it

527
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 5: takes them there, you know, and some people get mad

528
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 5: about it.

529
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: And I do. I like that answer too, because it's like,

530
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's art, it's expression, right,

531
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: and you know, however it comes out is how it

532
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: comes out, you know.

533
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 3: And that's the thing about hip hop. See, hip hop

534
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 3: takes on all types of different fashions and everything. Just

535
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: just like I said, you know, you're gonna go at

536
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 3: some point some of us do crossover, but it's still

537
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: hip hop. But you got to recognize the fact that,

538
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: you know, show that love, Give them them flowers. The

539
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 3: ones that did make it that they they they they

540
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: they pre hell into that that that that pop arena.

541
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying, the call they took, the culture,

542
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: the culture took in there. You feel what I'm saying. So,

543
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: but it's still it's still hip hop.

544
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: And that's what I think people want. People want to

545
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: hold hip hop hostage as this like gangster tough thing,

546
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: and you know, it never really I mean, if you

547
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 1: think about the origination of like Ello cool J, it

548
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: was never originally meant to be just this angry, you know,

549
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: stereotypical thing.

550
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 5: So, you know, I talk about hip hop is like

551
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 5: I understand that hip hop is just turning fifty years

552
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 5: old and human years that's old. But then like when

553
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 5: you were dealing with a genre that's not old at all,

554
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 5: hip hop is still very young and then mature. We

555
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 5: still don't even understand how to treat the legends yet,

556
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like, so we need to

557
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 5: understand that different genres can coexist within one genre. People say,

558
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 5: you could have hip hop, you could have rap, you

559
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 5: can have conscious music, you can have gangster music. You

560
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, like whatever you do, it's all

561
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 5: going under the umbrella. Like hip hop birthed a lot

562
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 5: of things, Like it just didn't stay the same. It

563
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 5: shouldn't have no exactly, it birthed a lot of things.

564
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: I am just going back to what you said though

565
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: you said they don't know how to treat the legends.

566
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 6: Can you talk more on it.

567
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 5: It's just you know, takes spurts for instance. You know,

568
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 5: like or other genres, you never hear country artists disrespecting

569
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 5: the ones that paved the way for them. You never

570
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 5: hear rock and roll artists disrespecting the walls that paved

571
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 5: the way. R and B today you made because it's

572
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 5: a different kind of R and B going down. But

573
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 5: like you know, like you never hear that, Like so why,

574
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 5: like that's something that needs to stop because it's really immature.

575
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 5: It's really i mature if you think about it, Like,

576
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 5: because this world is big enough, this industry has grown,

577
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 5: it's big enough for everybody. Yep, it's a new artist.

578
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 5: I've never known they got a million followers every day,

579
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 5: But where does Nigga come from? But you know it's

580
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 5: big enough for that.

581
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: You feel that's an interesting that's an interesting take if

582
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: you think about it, because you don't hear other genres

583
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: attack each other never, never, never, Now do you think

584
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: in hip hop has started as a publicity stunt or

585
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: because I know you guys did all the guys that

586
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: were like beefing at some point? You had all of them?

587
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 5: Well, battling. Battling is fun, that's part of hip hop.

588
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's part of.

589
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 5: Hip hop, you know what I'm saying. But like like

590
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 5: when it goes outside of my lyrics versus your lyrics.

591
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: You know, disrespectful life in the streets and just and

592
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: just like the respect some point like period, Like I've

593
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: heard some artists say things about Tupac that they didn't

594
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 3: even have to say, Like, Okay, if you don't if

595
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 3: you don't listen to Tupac, that's cool.

596
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 5: Why disrespect this man and he's dead? Yeah, you know

597
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Like, you know what I'm saying. So

598
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 5: if if you don't like him, if you don't like him,

599
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 5: that's cool. Like I don't like a lot of these

600
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 5: artists out right now, but I don't you don't hear

601
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 5: me on, but but you respect him because these like

602
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 5: these people is out here, you know, they feeding their families.

603
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 5: You know, they they they they could be doing way

604
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 5: way worse things than like doing what they doing, you know.

605
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 5: So so I don't never hate nobody. If you make it,

606
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,479
Speaker 5: you made it for a reason.

607
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: What keeps you guys strong together for so long?

608
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 3: But the brotherhood, the relationships that we carried all these years,

609
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: you know, being uh, you know best friends were best

610
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: for you know, lazy and I wish the lazy my

611
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 3: little brother, wish my cousin Craig. You know, we've been

612
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: doing him since like seventh grade. And of course Busy

613
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 3: came into the fold. He was about maybe ten and

614
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: eleven years old, maybe twelve years old when we first

615
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 3: met Busy. So the brotherhood has been there for a

616
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: long time, more than half our lives.

617
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: And do you think that there's like I have a

618
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: girlfriends that i'm my best friends are all based in

619
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: New York. I'm from New York. Then there's like, I

620
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: feel like, what keeps our relationship so strong is that

621
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: there's an unspoken moral and ethics to the relationship where

622
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: it's like certain boundaries it's not spoken, but we just

623
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: don't cross them. Do you think that that level of

624
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: respect and integrity is what keeps your guys relationship strong.

625
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, But.

626
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: It's the respect for one another, the respect for what

627
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: we bring to the table, the love we have for God,

628
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Because we understand these these songs,

629
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: these these milestones, as you said, we understand these to

630
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: be blessings, you know, because we come from romy noodles,

631
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. We come from a place

632
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: where having things and being fortunate to have what you

633
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: not what you want, but what you need. Being fortunate

634
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: to have what you need. And we wasn't privted at

635
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: all the time. So if he can contribute anything to me,

636
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: it make me stronger, you know. And or he can

637
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: contribute anything to me, it's like the iron sharpened iron,

638
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And we understood that. We

639
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: always understood that we were stronger together. We knew we

640
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: was dope apart, but when we came together, the crowds

641
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 2: got bigger. We saw that when we came together, like

642
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: when we helped each other in the studio with the

643
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: method of writing, and you know what I'm saying, All that,

644
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: like those experiences is what is really what.

645
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 4: Kept our group together.

646
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: The struggle was real from the first from the jump,

647
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: I mean, and then we were family. On top of that,

648
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: we were the only ones we had to lean on.

649
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: So when it was time to go steal some Romen noodles,

650
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 2: I go get the cheese. He go get through roben noodles.

651
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You get the jalapenos, and

652
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: we just distrack the people in the store and we

653
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: get and we work as a team.

654
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: So sometimes you have great and I've learned this now

655
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: that I'm approaching almost forty guys. You know, I'm not

656
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm at the biggest mouse on yet, but I've learned

657
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: that sometimes you have people that are great when you're down,

658
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: and then you have people that are great when you're up.

659
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: So when you guys were up, what were some of

660
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: the challenges you guys faced as a group.

661
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 5: I mean just just just being you know, people just

662
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 5: trying to pull us in different directions basically, you know,

663
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 5: like and you know, we had a lot of stuff

664
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 5: going on, Like once a solo album started and we

665
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 5: started having solo careerge it was it was hard to

666
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 5: pull us back together because you know, everybody was doing

667
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 5: something at the same time. But we always realized, you

668
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 5: know that we had to come back and make sure

669
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 5: the home base was cool, which was bold, and we

670
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 5: just always came back together like that always.

671
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: But it blew up on us so so big and

672
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: everything and whether we was ready for that type of

673
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: stardom of fame or not, it was something that took

674
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 3: us into a hole. We knew it was gonna happen

675
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: one way or the other, but it just took us

676
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: to a whole another stratosphere and everything that came with

677
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 3: the territory, and you know, had its ups and downs

678
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 3: and everything I even did, but went through my spell,

679
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 3: ended up going to the pen, came home, was able

680
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 3: to pick up the pieces to the puzzle all over again.

681
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 3: But the experience and all that it was that, you know,

682
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: and this is our thirtieth year, you know, we're celebrating

683
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: right now, thirty years of bone Thugs and harmony right now,

684
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. So we learned how to deal with

685
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: the snakes in the grass, the motherfuckers trying to divide

686
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 3: this and divide that, while still respecting and having support

687
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 3: for one another for what we're trying to do individually

688
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: and having and having right now, you know, we respect

689
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 3: and love each other enough, you know, to let each

690
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: one of us be the individuals we are and bring

691
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: in certain handle certain situations, and delegate certain situations, and

692
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: trust each other enough to do and you know, help

693
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: continue to build the brand no matter what it is.

694
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: And you guys are all individuals. So have you guys

695
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: learned to recognize how one person moves and go, oh,

696
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: that's how crazy moves, that's how lazy moves, that's how

697
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: flesh moves. Well, you know he gonna do this, you know,

698
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: And it's more of a love and acceptance versus aggravation.

699
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 2: I think we in the beginning it was aggravation because

700
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: we was together twenty four seven for about ten years straight,

701
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And then it became, you know,

702
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 2: we start understanding each other individually and how we move,

703
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: like why his characteristic complement mind well, while you know

704
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, So yeah, it was. It became a

705
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: respect thing because we went from teenagers moving a thousand

706
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 2: miles per hour with all these different changes, people whispering

707
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: in your ears telling you this and telling you that,

708
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: you know, we went through these things, but at the

709
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: same time, the respect was there, you know. So once

710
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: we got grown, start having kids and started seeing how

711
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: we moved differently from each other, and then we knew

712
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: how to respect you know, each other's moves.

713
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: Now, I know some of you guys are dropping solo albums.

714
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: When you guys dropped solo albums in the past, was

715
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: there any I feel like I'm really reaching. I don't

716
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: want to sound like I'm tearing you guys apart, but

717
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: I really when I think of relationships, they're so complex,

718
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: so I have to touch on these things. But is

719
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: there ever any rivalry going on when there's solo projects?

720
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 5: No?

721
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: I think we support each other. We've always supported each

722
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: other one in all of our endeavors. When it comes

723
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: to that, you know, you know, even though I was

724
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: the first one to kick it off with the solo

725
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 3: ventures and I had the support of my brothers, they featured,

726
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: We feature on each other. Yeah, you know, you know,

727
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: whenever the case may be, we present. You know, we

728
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 3: produce each other. We produce records for each other, We

729
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 3: produce it. You know, we give each other's concepts. So

730
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: when it comes to our individual tracks, hey, we're there.

731
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: We in each other's corner.

732
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm just looking over it, lazy and he's fully, man,

733
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: I put too many. I saw you dicing them and

734
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: dicing them and dicing them.

735
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: You can't never put too many.

736
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't like it how either, Craig. Craig,

737
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: why do you keep moving so far away from me

738
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: even in the shot?

739
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 5: You know what? This meal is?

740
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 3: Ready?

741
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's certainly yeah, yeah, we're gonna judge it,

742
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: all right. His noodles look soft. Everybody he was, he

743
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: was literally like, I wish the camera. I hope the

744
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: camera call. How into your cooking you were? You look

745
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: like you in another life you wanted to be a chef.

746
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 4: In this life, I still want to be a chef.

747
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 4: You might just want to get searched around boat. Yeah,

748
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 4: take your eat the whole ball.

749
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: There's another boat.

750
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 5: Hilarious. Yes, you'll be eating. Nose be running.

751
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: Either, the nose be running. Yeah, Like I just taste tester,

752
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: because I'm usually you know.

753
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: What I think? Right here, let me get your spoon.

754
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: Let's see, all right, let's try it taste. I'm gonna

755
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: try and avoid the hollow penos because I'm like crazy,

756
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to eat something hot.

757
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: Avoid its damn good bus down like good, all right.

758
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 5: You know what.

759
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: Good good spikes you though, my goodness, my goodness, you

760
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: can't even You're right, you're gonna even avoid the But

761
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: you know what, it's good the last person that made

762
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: Ramen on the show. I really enjoyed it and I'm

763
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. The bust down makes it into the

764
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: Olympics of Roman. Yo, lazy, I'm thoroughly impressed.

765
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 5: We could have used.

766
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: With the sorry jeans, with the put a little little

767
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: olives on there, you know, but like I said, we.

768
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 4: Ain't have a.

769
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

770
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: You know what I think really makes it unique is

771
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: the cheese. Okay, but my goodness, if you would not

772
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: have put so many peppers. Me and Crazy but really

773
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: enjoyed this, right, like, don't you want to eat it?

774
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: But you're like, man, I know it's gonna hurt.

775
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 4: Well, y'all know for me, right.

776
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: You guys are hilarious. So let's talk upcoming projects.

777
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 3: Yes, right now, I have a solo EP out it's

778
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: called Living Legend out on all streaming platforms. Make sure

779
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 3: y'all go rock that. And they has an album out

780
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: called Hypnotic Rhythms that's on all streaming platforms. We just

781
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: we just leaked a brand new Bonn Thugs and Harmony

782
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: Harmony single to the radio today called all Shit. You know,

783
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: we're getting ready to go to the studio with Craig

784
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: to jump on.

785
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 5: You have a project that you have a project coming

786
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 5: out in April called Chasing the.

787
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: Devil, Chasing the Devil.

788
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 5: Chasing the Devil. Yeah, it's exactly a follow up to

789
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,479
Speaker 5: what you did get a volume one. This is volume two.

790
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 5: Chasing the Devil is basically talking about how people literally

791
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 5: chasing the devil, but they but they don't even know it,

792
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, that's what's up.

793
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: I feel like the world we live in now, people

794
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: are chasing the devil, but they're almost proud of.

795
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 5: It, exactly talking.

796
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: About that, like they are literally like, yeah, I'm doing it,

797
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: and yes I know.

798
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 3: No shame.

799
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 5: So he may stream now these days.

800
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: So you guys, you guys hear about the Illuminati and

801
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: all that.

802
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't. I don't really get caught up

803
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 5: in Illuminati because this is how I look at that real.

804
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 5: That's all I want to know is how to look

805
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 5: at it. I mean, if it was they invite no

806
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 5: niggas to it. Yeah, period. They ain't invite no black

807
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 5: folks to it. So all these people talking about this Illuminati,

808
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 5: and how come whenever black people get money they just

809
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 5: can't earn it? Why why does it have to be

810
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 5: tied to the Illuminati. We don't say all the you

811
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, all the other people that did

812
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 5: get rich, all the other colors, we don't throw them

813
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 5: to the Illuminati. We say, they are hard workers and

814
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 5: they work for their money. So why is it different

815
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 5: when we blow up and be real successful in what

816
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 5: we do, all of a sudden we worship the devil

817
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 5: and we joined the Illuminati. It's probably yeah.

818
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: And you know, you gotta understand that the most of

819
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: what you're seeing out there, cut the damn TV off man,

820
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 3: cut the damn news off, cut that ship off, cut

821
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 3: that ship off, and learn how to dial in, you know,

822
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 3: challenge yourself to put your goddamn phone down, you know,

823
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 3: for a while, and just sit there in silence for

824
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: maybe five minutes. But it's the propaganda out there, and

825
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: then come with one boogie man after the other, and

826
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: it's all and it's you know, and it's and it's

827
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: a mind war. It's an information war. It's like it's

828
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: it's it's it's information on it. It's a battle for

829
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: the mind, it's a battle for the heart. And yeah,

830
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: we know God is real. The devil is real too.

831
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: You gotta know how to balance yourself with respect to

832
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 3: what you gotta do. You're gonna succeed, but you're gonna

833
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 3: you're gonna put together a podcast. Well, are you gonna

834
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 3: put together that podcast or not? Are you gonna put

835
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: together do what you need to do for your family

836
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 3: or not? And you know, just because you make it

837
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: over the top like crazy, say that, don't got no

838
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: you know that whatever this illuminatih F to them, Man,

839
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: you got you make your own illuminati. We are own

840
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: illuminati because they trying to stop you from doing what

841
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: you gotta do.

842
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: What is something that someone wouldn't know about you guys

843
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 1: based on your music? Like what's a fun like something

844
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: like if like, what is something I don't would never

845
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: know about lazy h I mean besides that he's a

846
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: good cook. I want more, but you can put more

847
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: in my plate. It's so good. But yeah, what is

848
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: something that we don't know? We wouldn't know?

849
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: Well that I pray all day every day all through

850
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: the day, while I'm driving, while I'm in the shower.

851
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 4: People don't People don't understand about me.

852
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: You know that my main thing and my main purpose

853
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: in life is family, you know, because I'm I'm a

854
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: whole most of the time. So you might see me partying, greeting, holling,

855
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: clapping hands and all that, But really I take so

856
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: much time to myself to calculate them thoughts.

857
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: After I do all that, I.

858
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: Take my time sit back, analyze, and I spend a

859
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: lot of time in thought.

860
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: So I heard that they're different. What an introvert is

861
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: someone that can still go out and shake hands, but

862
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: after they shake hands with people, they kind of get draining.

863
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: They need that time alone. Would you say you're more

864
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: like that or is just maybe not? It's not an introvert.

865
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not an introvert. I'm outgoing than a motherfucker.

866
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 2: But after that, I understand that I need to recollect

867
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: what I'm doing and where I'm going, you know. So

868
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: I take a lot of time. I plan, I plan everything,

869
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I think five six seven

870
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: years down. I've been thinking seven six years down the

871
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 2: road since I was seven to six six or seven years,

872
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: you know.

873
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 4: What I mean.

874
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 2: And I just and that's one thing I don't think

875
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: people would know about me because I'm in the mix.

876
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: M They probably don't know I'm a mastermind because I

877
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: think a lot.

878
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: I like that. What about you flesh?

879
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's it's a couple of things out there,

880
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 3: you know. I like to fish a little bit. I

881
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 3: like to you know, I like to gut and chop

882
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 3: the heads off the fish and gut them up and

883
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 3: everything and skin them and all that good stuff and everything.

884
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: And I've played lately, you know, probably taking up more

885
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: learning how to really really uh do the seed germination

886
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: with or without soil and german A seeds and you know,

887
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: growing uh growing pots and growing the raised beds of

888
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: uh veggies and stuff like that and everything. It's a

889
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: few things that flesh and ball that you know. And

890
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 3: that's that's the main thing. That that the the main

891
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: hobby that I done picked up that I done found myself,

892
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 3: you know, spending a lot of time with those plants,

893
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: you know, sitting around those plants, you know, just spitting

894
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: off all that good oxygen on me and everything. I

895
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 3: like the smell of the plants that I that that

896
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: I sat there in garden and be surrounded in my loove.

897
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 3: You know, you know, I can walk through like a

898
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: maze of just you know, you know, different types of plants.

899
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: Got the tomatoes over here, the cucumbers over here, you

900
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: got the cilantro right here, you got right here, you

901
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: got the you know, you know, and it's and and

902
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 3: you know, and I got a little you know, just

903
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 3: it's just it's just an amazing situation where it's asided

904
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: me that that most folks don't know about I.

905
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: Like, Dan, what about you? Crazy?

906
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 5: Uh man? Some if people don't know that I don't know.

907
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm a

908
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: point on one man. Your hair accessories are beyond divine,

909
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: like they are. Your hair game is crazy all thank you.

910
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I probably say I'm more of

911
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 5: the antrovercuse I don't want to be fucking people like that.

912
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 5: I got, you know, you know, I got like if

913
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying that if it ain't my family,

914
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying my brothers is like you

915
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, I got to really know a

916
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 5: person like you know what I'm saying, but you know what,

917
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 5: I'm in public. I do what I gotta do. But

918
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 5: I'm always being cool with the with the vack scene,

919
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 5: with planning it being in the back scene. I'm cool

920
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 5: with that for real.

921
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: Now, are you guys currently reading any books that you

922
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: think you would be willing to share with you know,

923
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: our audience to.

924
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: It all depends on it all depends on if you're

925
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 3: gonna get judgment or not learn how to you know?

926
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: You know, think you know, I will share a lot

927
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 3: of you know, a lot of stuff, but I think

928
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 3: I might, you know, just for the sake of holding on,

929
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let them share some of the stuff. I

930
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: will share, but you know, you got to be a

931
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: little bit open minded, you know what I'm saying.

932
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 5: But I don't know.

933
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: I'll share some stuff that i'm reading.

934
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 4: What do you want to go first?

935
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 3: You go first.

936
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: So I like to introduce to like younger people to

937
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: I read a lot of inspirational books. You know what

938
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's a book by James Allen called So

939
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: as a Man, think of you know, book about this

940
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: thick not too big. I pass it off to my

941
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 2: children and people when I see that they need, they

942
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: need guidance. I give them this book and it's by

943
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: James Allen, and it's really about the things you put

944
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 2: forth in life is the things you get back. Basic,

945
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: basic stuff, but put in a way that any man

946
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: can understand, any woman can understand. And it's inspiring, you

947
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I read a lot of autobiographies,

948
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like, I read books like

949
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: Nike to just do It that book, you know what

950
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 2: I mean. I like the stories of a man.

951
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 4: That reached greatness.

952
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: So I you know, so I can try to follow

953
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: in some of the footsteps, you know. So I'm more

954
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: of an inspirational book reader a Bible reader.

955
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And that's what I do.

956
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 4: I stay.

957
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: I stay on the inspirational side. When it comes to books. No,

958
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: not no fiction or none of that.

959
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: I'm the same. I've always avoided fiction since I was

960
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: a little little kid. I just never got into space.

961
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, always for the movies. No, but yeah. Really, like

962
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 5: one book I'm reading now is most of the books

963
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 5: I read is like uh, spiritual books. I'm reading the

964
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 5: book now it's called a revelation. Is it's grand climax

965
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 5: at head basically a book that that breaks down the

966
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 5: Book of Revelation.

967
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: That's a hard book to break down.

968
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 5: Oh no, but when you read this book, you totally

969
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 5: have the understanding of it. Likely.

970
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: What's the name of the book again.

971
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 5: It's called Revelation. It's Grand Climax at Head.

972
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: Okay, Now when you read that book, do you think

973
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: we're at the end of times?

974
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 5: Okay? I was.

975
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, because the first time I read Revelation,

976
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: I mean I took the Bible on, I read the

977
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: whole Bible. Revelation is the one book that I definitely

978
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: one hundred percent was like, you know what, I don't

979
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: think it was almost like listening to jay Z, Like

980
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: I feel like there were certain j Z records that

981
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: I couldn't comprehend at the time, and Revelation was one

982
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: of those books. Like at the time, it just was

983
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: so much that I was like, you know what, I

984
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: don't think I can understand. Maybe if I go back now.

985
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah.

986
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: Well, you know it's some of the similarities things things

987
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: that go on, Like if you look at the news

988
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: and read Revelations, you'd be like, this is is really happening?

989
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

990
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 5: So, you know, they say the revolution was being televibed,

991
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 5: the Revelation is being tele straight up.

992
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: Wow, real, what about you flush? You're gonna give it up?

993
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you know, I've been you know. I

994
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 3: don't know if y'all ever heard of Alex Jones though,

995
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 3: but he's like one of the from Dave David Ike

996
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: to Alex Jones. He has a couple of books out there,

997
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 3: and one of them is called one of them is

998
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: called the you know, the Greater, the Great Reset, you know,

999
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 3: the Great Awakening, you know, and you know, it's it's

1000
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 3: a real eye opener, you know when it comes to

1001
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 3: certain things that's going on in the world today, in

1002
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 3: the country today, the Great Reset, as far as what's

1003
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 3: been going on in the world, what they're trying to do,

1004
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 3: as far as setting up a new system, you know,

1005
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 3: and uh that which Revelation talks about. I've been real

1006
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 3: heavy into the Bible and the Revelation portion of the

1007
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 3: Bible to be exact, and and uh and there's another author. Uh,

1008
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: there's another author by the name of Mark Levin, and

1009
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: he wrote a book called and uh it's a real contrary.

1010
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: It's not that controversial, but I'm just spit it out there.

1011
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: It's called the Democrat Party Hates America, and uh he

1012
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 3: wrote other books that, uh, you know, I'm pretty much

1013
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 3: a big fan of this man because he's a he's

1014
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 3: a constitutional attorney that breaks down the constitution and the

1015
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 3: real real he'll put it in a very education on

1016
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 3: why you get a lot of education. If you never

1017
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: heard of him, go look him up. His name is

1018
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 3: Mark Levin. He's and I believe he's one of the

1019
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 3: scholars of big scholars of our time. He wrote books

1020
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 3: like called The Men in Black and it's quite a

1021
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 3: few I got. I got all of his books. But uh,

1022
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: he's just breaking it down how you know how pretty

1023
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 3: much is this a lot of influence going on as

1024
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: far as with respects to you know how a lot

1025
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: of these parties is even no matter if some of

1026
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 3: these party h officials or are communists, actual Marxist communists

1027
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 3: dressed up under the banner of a Democrat or Republican

1028
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 3: but in reality are communists. So I wanted to, you know,

1029
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 3: and it's it's a whole information that's why it's like,

1030
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 3: you know, it's uh, it's a famous website out there

1031
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 3: called info wars and you know, and that's one of

1032
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 3: the things that I've been real heavy into because it's

1033
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 3: real eye openers. They go all across the spectrum and

1034
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 3: uh and uh and uh, and it kind of like

1035
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 3: gives you what you need, you know, how to protect

1036
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 3: yourself against you know, being shut down by a hateful

1037
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: Marxist communists. If you look into history and look at

1038
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: look at the history of communism, and this is explaining

1039
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 3: how you know pretty much how you know the government

1040
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 3: is corrupt and hijacked by these communists.

1041
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. So not trying to segue, but I do want

1042
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: to know what you guys are doing in Cleveland.

1043
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, man, we're trying to do a lot, like

1044
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 5: a lot of things, you know, for our community, like

1045
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 5: where we grew up at, you know, trying to work

1046
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 5: on this project to help revitalize like where we come from.

1047
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 5: We want to put a bone throws, a harmony museum there.

1048
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 5: You know, we want to like just like help the community,

1049
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 5: y'all like it anyway, we can't go to call it

1050
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 5: the Harmony district, oh know. So when people come to Cleveland,

1051
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a entertainment district. So when people come

1052
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 5: to Cleveland. They're not just saying they want to go downtown.

1053
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 5: They're talking about I want to go to the Harmony district.

1054
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 5: See what they got going. You know it's gonna be establishments.

1055
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 5: This featured their features both to us a homony like

1056
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 5: we gonna have a restaurant at Harmony Cafe. I like that.

1057
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 5: In the museum like a yeah, museum, you know what

1058
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 5: I'm saying. Get a museum right on the corner of

1059
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 5: Army nine, your Knife and Saint Clair. You know, if

1060
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 5: everything works out. So that's something we're working very closely

1061
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 5: with the city.

1062
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: And then what else can we expect from you guys

1063
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four and beyond books.

1064
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 3: We definitely working on the memoirs. They got a poetry

1065
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 3: book that he's working on. I've been I'm working on

1066
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 3: a memoir that I'm in the middle of. It is real,

1067
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 3: just getting real good. And so we're getting that. We

1068
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 3: got got talks with a couple of big time producers

1069
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 3: that's showing interest in the Bone Dug film. We don't

1070
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 3: know if it's gonna be a biopic I love that

1071
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 3: or some type of docu series sort of like How

1072
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 3: Wu Tang Did. This is when you got season one, two, three,

1073
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 3: four five or whatnot, because the Bone Duck story is

1074
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 3: so extensive, it's gonna be hard to impossible to squeeze

1075
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 3: the Bone Duck story in a two to three hour movie.

1076
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 3: Maybe two, three seasons, four five seasons.

1077
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: And we also, you know, we got a podcast as

1078
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 2: a group that we're doing.

1079
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 4: You know, Crazy Boone came up with the idea.

1080
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: It's called Thug Stories, you know, So we're working on

1081
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: that individual music harmony, house entertainment.

1082
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 4: You know, I work with all of our kids.

1083
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I work with my kids.

1084
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 2: I work with all of our kids because they came

1085
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 2: together as they grew up and they do things together. So,

1086
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: you know, just really capitalizing on everything entertainment, you know, entertainment, educational,

1087
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: you know, just just just giving back to where we

1088
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 2: came from and just making an impact on what we're

1089
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,919
Speaker 2: doing it besides just selling millions of records. So now

1090
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 2: we're moving into the realm of our give back, you

1091
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1092
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, your legacy impact and giving back. Yes, my final

1093
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: final question lazy. When it comes to this music industry,

1094
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: is there some seeding that the world is not privy too,

1095
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: that's behind the scenes that you could share with us.

1096
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: That was a hard nugget for you to swallow. Per se.

1097
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: I mean just the music, the music industry period, you know,

1098
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: the way, the way that they misappropriated our contracts, you

1099
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean, the robbery and the thievery that

1100
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 2: went on, you know, always me myself Like today, I

1101
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 2: think the Internet is so important because we got we

1102
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 2: with our fan base, we can be independent without giving

1103
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: eighty percent or ninety or seventy eight percent, you know,

1104
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: the bulk of our earnings for our creations to somebody

1105
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 2: else to handle, you know. So the industry was built

1106
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: to keep the artists blind, you know what I mean. Especially,

1107
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: that's why they play on the young to the age,

1108
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 2: the age variable because you know, if you're a young artist,

1109
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: they can dangle to carrot in front of your face,

1110
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: and when you have nothing, it's easy to go for

1111
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: that care. But as an adult, you know what I mean,

1112
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: the more knowledge you have, you don't fall for those tricks.

1113
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: So they put an age stipulation on you. All you

1114
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: got to be this age. But killer might just prove

1115
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: you don't have to be a certain age, you know.

1116
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: Adele she proved you know what I mean. So it's

1117
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: these different tricks that they played to rob us, blind us,

1118
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 2: keep us ignorant to the fact on the contracts. And

1119
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: that's what I that's what I disliked about the industry.

1120
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 4: So we had it, We really had it rough.

1121
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: Coming up because we learned through. We learned through our

1122
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: own mistakes signing wrong contracts. So we had to get

1123
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 2: educated ourselves. And now you know, now these days you

1124
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: got the it's more you have more leeway to handle that,

1125
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: you have more control over your career. So the industry

1126
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: for me, the recording industry is now podcasts and you

1127
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 2: on these different.

1128
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 3: Social media like it's at the press of a button

1129
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 3: you can reach your fan base versus now crazy.

1130
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: My question to you would be, now, coming off of

1131
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: what Lazy was saying, would you say you feel at

1132
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: times it could be harder to market because now you've

1133
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: you've gone through all the genres of how music is

1134
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: marketed and distributed and bought and sold, and you've seen

1135
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: the rector label side, but now you're entering the new

1136
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: world of the digital side with social media and and

1137
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: what contracts to like numbers that are impressive or what

1138
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: have you, what would you say is the pro and

1139
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: the con of dealing with music in this new age?

1140
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: Going independent?

1141
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I mean kind of like what

1142
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 5: he said, you know, like it's they're trying to paint

1143
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 5: this picture that you know, like we're washed up, We

1144
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 5: just all of a sudden forgot how to make good music,

1145
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And that's how they treat us.

1146
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 5: You know I'm saying just because he said, because we older,

1147
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 5: and they don't want to have those conversations with us

1148
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 5: about business because they know we know what we're talking

1149
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 5: about now.

1150
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: But now going independent, do you feel more liberated or

1151
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: do you feel more pressure going independent?

1152
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 5: No? Definitely feel more liberated because you know, like it's

1153
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 5: like again, we understand the business, we understand what we

1154
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 5: need to do to go around and you know what

1155
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 5: I'm saying, I just got to offer from a record label,

1156
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, actually put my album out,

1157
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 5: and what they're offering I'm already doing.

1158
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: So like why do you need them? Yeah?

1159
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 5: Why would I give you my album when I'm already

1160
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 5: doing that, you know what I'm saying. So, oh yeah, No,

1161
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,439
Speaker 5: it's definitely liberating, especially when you have the fan base

1162
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 5: that we have from all the work we put in.

1163
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 5: It's very easy for us to maneuver around this system

1164
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 5: now because you know, like once we bring our fans

1165
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 5: to the internet, we have them at our grass now.

1166
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: So now when you guys collectively as a group are together,

1167
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: would you say you you make more I had to

1168
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: talk financials, more money on the on the publishing side,

1169
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: or the tours and the shows or the actual record sales.

1170
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 4: I will say we make more money period.

1171
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because now we own all the back Yeah.

1172
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 3: The money comes straight to you when you're doing the shows,

1173
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 3: versus how it did first it has to go through

1174
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 3: the record company. All the money goes to the record

1175
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 3: company first. Today we are the record company.

1176
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: But do you guys own all your publishing and everything.

1177
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 2: Publish it and we're soon to own our masters, you know.

1178
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: And that's another thing about the record company. We gave something,

1179
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 2: we created, we got to fight thirty years later to

1180
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 2: get control of you know what I mean. But once

1181
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 2: those things revert back to us. Now we're independent. We

1182
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: re release our music, we license our music, our publishing

1183
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: belongs to us, you know what I'm saying. So, but

1184
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 2: that not in the beginning. In the beginning, it wasn't

1185
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 2: like that.

1186
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: Now, what does it take to own your masters apart

1187
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: from owning your publishing? Well, I know we're going over

1188
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: Oh we really only got a couple of minutes.

1189
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 3: When you know, you either, depending on what type of

1190
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 3: deal you got, either own a portion of the masters

1191
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 3: because the record company always going to own other portions

1192
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 3: of it. But you do what it's called reversion letters

1193
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 3: to where you let the copyright office know and the

1194
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 3: company know that, Hey, this letter is to let y'all

1195
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 3: know that we understand that time is up on those

1196
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 3: masters over here. We wan't full control of it, bast

1197
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 3: So you write your reversion letter to put it in

1198
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 3: there to get those and it takes about it. Unfortunately,

1199
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 3: it takes thirty years. And then and then there's another

1200
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 3: downside of the industry that you gotta wait so damn

1201
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 3: long to get those rights back. But some of us

1202
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 3: are you know, able to you know, have the access

1203
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 3: to get that done. And now you know it's just

1204
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 3: a ticking time clock right now.

1205
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 4: But uh, you let me sum it up.

1206
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 2: Your publishing is the producers and the writers, the actual

1207
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 2: creators of the content. Yeah, the other side your royalties

1208
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 2: and things like that is off your sales, you know

1209
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1210
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: So then what's the masters then yep, and that's the.

1211
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 2: Musical masters, the music in general, your masters is everything together,

1212
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So when you own that,

1213
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 2: you have ConTroll of your publishing, You have control of

1214
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 2: what you price your stuff for record sales, and.

1215
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 3: The overall not to cut you off though, but just

1216
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 3: the overall rights of the song. When you have the

1217
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 3: song that who owns the rights to the song? The

1218
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 3: light that it's to have the ability to license into

1219
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 3: this movie, this other page. Just keep over there sample education.

1220
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 3: Who do you have to who do you have to

1221
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 3: answer to? If somebody wants to use that?

1222
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: And you guys are almost there.

1223
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: I got a few couple more years yet. But the letter,

1224
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 3: the letters, But the letters have been sent and it's

1225
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 3: it's yeah. So so we just got this just the

1226
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 3: waiting waiting phase right now.

1227
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: Awesome. Well, I just want to thank you guys for

1228
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: taking time out of your hectic schedule dealing with Mike

1229
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: Toddler being super nice. So I want to I like

1230
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: talking about behind the scenes because you never know how

1231
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: people are, you know, when the camera's not rolling, So

1232
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you guys what they're like

1233
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: when the camera's not rolling. They're really cool. They're really

1234
01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: nice then and uh and very humble and lazy is

1235
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: a good cook. So thank you guys so much for

1236
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: giving me this iconic moment. I will never forget this.

1237
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 3: Thank you for having us got it on camera. Absolutely.

1238
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: And then there is there any way that fans can

1239
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: keep up with you guys and find out what your

1240
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: latest is.

1241
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 2: You know, Facebook, Official Lazy Bone, the bon Thugs and

1242
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 2: Harmony page of course Official bon Thugs and Harmony. My

1243
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: website is harmonyhousingt dot com and on i G.

1244
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 4: I'm the real Lazybone. I'm the real Lazybone.

1245
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 3: Definitely, y'all. Y'all can check me out and catch me

1246
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 3: at Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter's fleshing Bone bt n H

1247
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 3: on Twitter fleshing Bone btn H. I got a Facebook

1248
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 3: Stanley House on Facebook, but I also have the fleshing

1249
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 3: Bone page fleshing Bone btn H on Instagram and Twitter.

1250
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 3: Make sure y'all give me a shout out, you know.

1251
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, but ig is a crazy underscore bone. That's all

1252
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 5: I rock about. I'll mess with Twitter, Facebook.

1253
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: But and in people DM you guys, do you guys

1254
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: actually respond sometimes? Or no?

1255
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 5: Yeah? That bone Thuder and Harmony ig is btn H

1256
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 5: b tn H Live the bone Thudger and Harmony the

1257
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 5: group I G B t n H Live.

1258
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 3: So y'all official bond Official bonduds in Harmony on on

1259
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 3: on a Facebook. So y'all make sure y'all chime in

1260
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 3: with us.

1261
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 7: Secret ingredient all right, listen up, y'all. The secret ingredient

1262
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 7: that kept this legendary group bone Thugs in Harmony pushing

1263
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 7: forward over three decades is tenacity. This iconic group of

1264
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 7: young men face some serious obstacles on their paths to success,

1265
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 7: their mental and moral strength to resist opposition never faltered.

1266
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 7: Five young teens got on a bus from Cleveland, Ohio,

1267
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 7: to Los Angeles with one mission in getting easy to

1268
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 7: see their rap skills. When they first arrived in LA,

1269
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 7: they were dead broke, sleeping on floors and scraping by

1270
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 7: on Ramen noodles, But they refused to give up on

1271
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 7: their dreams. Instead, they kept calling easy EA's office every

1272
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 7: single day until they finally got them on the line. Well,

1273
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 7: the tenacity paid off when EASYE signed them to his

1274
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 7: Rootless Records label. From there, these young men secured iconic

1275
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 7: collaborations with Mariah Carey, Phil Collins, Big Pond, and Biggie Small's,

1276
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 7: going on to being one of the biggest hip hop

1277
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,959
Speaker 7: groups of all time, selling over fifty million records. Through

1278
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 7: it all, their tenacious spirit kept them pushing forward, perfecting

1279
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 7: their craft and refusing to take no for an answer.

1280
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 7: That tenacity is what opened so many doors for Bone

1281
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 7: Thugs over the years. While other artists are cool, resting

1282
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 7: on their laurels, this group is constantly reinventing, reaching out

1283
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 7: for that next level, whether it's breaking down bears in

1284
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 7: the studio, killing shit on the road, or using their

1285
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 7: platform to uplift their community. Their drive and determination is

1286
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 7: the fire that keeps them going. So take note, fam

1287
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 7: When tenacity is your secret ingredient, you slide on every

1288
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 7: opportunity and out maneuver any adversary, and when it's showtime,

1289
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 7: you rock the house. That's the Bone Thugs blueprint and

1290
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 7: it's the ingredient we all need in our life. Kitchen,

1291
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 7: I'm calling wit and you just had a taste of

1292
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 7: eating while broke, Stay hungry.

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