1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to another edition of Cardinal Territory. 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 2: Big opening. 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: They went to the Cardinals, so we have a lot 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: to chop up. Jim Hayes alongside Lance Lynn and Kyle 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: Gibson and gentlemen, you know what we do. 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: We start with. 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: The please please yours please. You want to help us 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: grow the show, you want to get us the seven 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: thousand subscribers, Just reach out, hit the subscribe button. 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And then I think we 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 3: can settle it that way. How about that way? 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: Obviously, Kyle, but I do like the premise of if 26 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: you're a subscriber, tell a friend. So opening day in 27 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: Saint Louis, Cardinals with a big nine to seven, come 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: from behind when lots to talk about, But the first 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: thing I want to talk about is opening Day in 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: Saint Louis because look, I was there and I almost forgot, 31 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: Like you see the Red Jackets, the Clydesdale was a 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: beautiful day, see her right and all that, but there 33 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: is truth to it, and you guys have been through that. 34 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: So Lance, I'm going to start with you opening day 35 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis, and you've been to other opening days. Oh, 36 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: it is special in Saint Louis, don't you agree with it? 37 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: So what makes it special? I mean yeah, one hundred percent. 38 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: You start off with clyde Zales, Right, nobody's got that, 39 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 2: and there's and there's no way to there's no way 40 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: to match it. And then you have all the Hall 41 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: of Famers are there, and then you know fans are 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: are in the in the building. It's packed. So they 43 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: do it right in every form, honoring the new season, 44 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: honoring the past and everything, all the traditions. So yeah, 45 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: you can't beat what they've what they've put together there, 46 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: and they do a great job with it. And I 47 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: know is one of those places where no matter how 48 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: many times you go through it, it's it gives you 49 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: the like the goosebumps. You get that feeling of excitement 50 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: and kind of nervousness too when you're riding around in 51 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: there doing all that. So it's always a fun time 52 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 2: that time of year. 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think Opening Day is really special. 54 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: You know, every team thinks that they do Opening Day 55 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 3: really well, and most teams do. But I think the 56 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: different touches of having the Clydes Dales and and the 57 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 3: Bush connecttion, uh you know, creates a different idea and 58 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 3: create different dynamic, I should say. And then the Hall 59 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: of Fame, the Red Jackets at home plate, it's pretty cool, 60 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: you know, getting to go and shake the hands of 61 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 3: the cardinal greats, which man, I can't wait to see 62 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: the Lance in a couple of years, having a handshake 63 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: everybody as they walk past, and just you know, getting 64 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: that fresh beard out there in a red jacket's gonna 65 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 3: be really good. 66 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: It would be a nice touch opening day. Yeah, we 67 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: might just have to go check that out. 68 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: So all right, I'm gonna make that a priority. 69 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: Get Lance his red jacket. Let's do that. 70 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: So oh there's again. Well, I mean they'll get the 71 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: they'll get those guys in and then we'll work on it. 72 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: So eight to nine to seven win for the Cardinals, 73 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: eight runs in the six, a lot of two strike hits, 74 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: Burly with the with the big blast. It's one game. 75 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: I get that, but you know, we're looking to accentuate 76 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: the positive. But it's one game. But is there Lance? 77 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: Is there anything to glean from that? They got some 78 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: good pitching from Libby, JJ had his first homer, they 79 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: had a nice comeback. Is there anything to glean from that? 80 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: Say it what you want, Jim, You're gonna say that 81 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: we're gonna win it all one hundred and sixty two 82 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: and oh after that comeback, that's what it's all about 83 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: right here. No, it was exciting to see right when 84 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: you're you've got a young team and all that. You 85 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: want to see their fight, and you saw it right away. 86 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: They're not going to give up. They're going to be scrappy. 87 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: I'm looking through that any I see the bunt hit 88 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: by Victor and all that. The things that they can 89 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: do up and down the lineup are there. You know, 90 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: now it's going to be consistency and stuff like that. 91 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: But to be able to come back kind of you know, 92 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: having the blow up any any four where they give 93 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: up six to come back and score eight is a 94 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: huge thing. It's all about, you know. Michael Dretti used 95 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: to say right back, but he used another word in 96 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: the middle. And when you're able to come right back, 97 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: when you get kind of slapped in the face and 98 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: then turn around and do it right back to them, 99 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: that's huge and it's also huge for your As the 100 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: year builds on, you're gonna find some chemistry. They're gonna 101 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: they're gonna have some fun with it, and you see 102 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: the youth of hey, we're not out of it. We 103 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: can do some things and we can have fun while 104 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: we're doing it and show some energy. So it was 105 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: exciting to see that because they're gonna have some ups 106 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: and downs this year, but they're not going to be 107 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: scared to fight back right out of the gate. And 108 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: that was fun because opening day half the team probably 109 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 2: was their first real opening day, so to see them, 110 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: you know, hey, they you know, then Scorny runs early 111 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: and then we're able to come back and do that. 112 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: All in all, it was that, you know, when you 113 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: win their first game, that's great, but when you're able 114 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: to you know, turning around after giving up six and 115 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: then coming back and doing that, that's a a huge 116 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: first win and it can create some energy which will 117 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: be fun. But they're gonna have some ups and downs. 118 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: But that was a fun, fun first game. 119 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: And we've seen, you know what, this team is young. 120 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: You know, no one expects them really to do a ton, 121 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: but for a young team to win a game like that, 122 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: that's the opener. That's a big boost, you know, in 123 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: terms of letting them know who they really are or 124 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: what they can do. 125 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 126 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: I just think it's it's a lot more fun press 127 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: conference for Ali, right, I mean I think it it 128 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: was going to be. It turned from you know, Alie 129 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 3: is this kind of like you know how things are 130 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: going to be to Alie tell us about the positives here, right? 131 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: I mean I think if you dive into it a 132 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: little bit, I think it does a lot for Swanson. 133 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: I know, he gave up the three runs, but man 134 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: to know that the team came back and fought back 135 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: and really picked him up. That's a really good feeling. 136 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: Roy Croft is the one that kind of ran into 137 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 3: some tough luck there with the ball not even leaving 138 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: the infield, and then Jojo O'Brien and Stanik. I think 139 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,559 Speaker 3: that's really a good sign at the back end when 140 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: the team got the lead back. You know, Lance says 141 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: right back, when the bullpen says, no, we got this lead, 142 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: now we're holding. It looks like three innings. Really really 143 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: good job by those guys, but man, what a what 144 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: an inning? Just compounding a bad after about I think 145 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: seven or eight straight hits, you know, and against some 146 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 3: good relievers, right, That's kind of what I wanted to 147 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: look up here. I think, you know, they did it 148 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: against Seymour, who I was with him in Triple A 149 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: and when he came up and pitched last year, he 150 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: was nasty. He's a funky lefty. He didn't get an out. 151 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: Clevenger had a sub two and a half e RA 152 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: last year. He was nasty, he got one out, and 153 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: Griffin Jack's nasty. I mean they did it against three 154 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: of their better arms in that bullpen. So I think 155 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: that's a that's a pretty cool sign for the young 156 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: team to fight back and be able to do that, 157 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: and who knows if it creates moming them to win 158 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: the series or not. But like Lann said, you can't 159 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: win one hundred and sixty two if you don't win 160 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: the first one. 161 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: And that's what we expect one hundred and sixty two, 162 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: I know, So no one has more pressure on in 163 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: my opinion, then JJ Weather, like a lot of guys, 164 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: are getting, you know, opportunity these but the expectations are 165 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: through the roof for JJ Weatherhold, who's a really mature kid. 166 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: I've talked to him, and what does he do in 167 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: his very first game, his first game as a big leaguer, 168 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: first hit as a big leaguer happens to be a 169 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: homer on an O two pitch. His mom said she 170 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: thought he was going to strike out. I interviewed her 171 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: in game, and he takes an outside fastball and crushes it. 172 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: So for a guy like that who's getting his first 173 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: exposure to Major League baseball, the crowds you know that 174 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: you see in Big League Baseball opening day in Saint Louis, 175 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: doesn't that say some about the kid lands that he's 176 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: able to deliver, you know when everyone's looking at him. 177 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, definitely but you look at the pitch 178 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: he hit Man that was about three or four inches 179 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: off the play out in the way and to go 180 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: Burman Center. I think the way he hit the home 181 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: run tells me something that I liked more than just 182 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: hitting the home run to go to center as a 183 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 2: young kid at Bush Stadium, which is one of the 184 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: art places to go to center at on a ball 185 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: off the plate away, I'm like, Okay, so this guy's 186 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: not afraid to cover the ball away and do things 187 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: like that. And then he's able to hit the sacifly 188 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: later against a lefty, so he's got an idea what 189 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: he's trying to do. He's able to cover tough pitches. 190 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: He's able to cover off the plate and do stuff. 191 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 2: It's not like he has to be in one area. 192 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a first game, but it doesn't seem 193 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: to be that he has to be in one area 194 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: to do damage, especially if you can do damage dead 195 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: center off the plate away. So yeah, it's going to 196 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: be a fun uh you know energy that he's going 197 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: to bring. And then you you know, you you partner 198 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 2: that with Mason up the middle, they've got a really 199 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: fun group. And then even Victor with what he can 200 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: do with his speed and all that, and he's gonna 201 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: get on base and and do all that stuff. They're 202 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: they're creating a fun environment for young kids that are 203 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: very talented and very athletic to do a lot of things. 204 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: And when he said, you know, it's your first game, 205 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 2: but he is mature. He did go to college, he 206 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: did go through the grind of you know, a big 207 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: time school in college, and then went through the minor 208 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: leagues last year. He knows what he's you know, capable of, 209 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: but he knows how to cover things that you know, 210 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: maybe it takes up longer guys to you know, figure out, 211 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: but right out of the gate, he looks like he 212 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: belongs and now you mess him with those other guys, 213 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a youthful energy that is going to 214 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: be fun to watch, especially if they you know, do 215 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: do the comebacks and stuff like that. But it's you know, 216 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: right out of the gate, that's a that's a great 217 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: first day. 218 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: Fun fact about JJ Kyle. He also homeward in his 219 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: very first college game too. So this guy seems like 220 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: he will be worth the price of admission. There's gonna 221 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: be some ups and downs, like like Lance said, but 222 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: I think JJ is going to be the real deal 223 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: that fans are gonna want to show up and watch 224 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: him do his thing. 225 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, I don't like to put 226 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: the weight of a franchise on people, but when you 227 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: have a couple of years of high draft picks, and 228 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: you have a high draft pick like JJ was, if 229 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 3: they don't pan out, it kind of stinks. I mean, 230 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: it kind of hurts how you play in the franchise 231 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: because you drafted JJ Weatherhole with a purpose and for 232 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: a reason to do what he's doing. So those are 233 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 3: the kind of draft picks that either you know, really 234 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 3: help the turnaround or delay the turnaround. So, once again, 235 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: not to put pressure on the kid, because everybody's human, 236 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: but I think this is who the look of one 237 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: game is, who the Cardinals are really hoping they get, right. 238 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: I don't know, you probably didn't have this on the 239 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: list of things to talk about, but I kind of 240 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: would be interested to see what roster construction, what lineup 241 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: construction looks like. If you put Mason at one and 242 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 3: JJ at two, and then that allows Herrera to shift 243 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: to three, that allows Burlsen to shift to four, and 244 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: probably takes a little bit of pressure off JJ, and 245 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 3: I think JJ with a little extra thump than Mason. 246 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: Mason's a guy that's going to get on base at 247 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 3: a decent clip. And then I think you have a 248 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: chance to be up to nothing instead of one nothing. Look, 249 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 3: having Schobert leadoff for the Phillies works out great, a 250 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 3: lot of leadoff homers and you know, leading off innings. 251 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 3: But you know, I think it probably adds a little 252 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: bit to it with Mason being in front of him. 253 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: And then not that Mason can't handle being the four hitter. 254 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: I think he can as long as his mindsets right. 255 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: But he's not your stereotypical four hitter. You know, you 256 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: want as many guys in front of Herrera and Burlson 257 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: to be on base as possible. 258 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 2: I like that. 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There all eyes 314 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: on you when you're the front of the rotation guy, 315 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: and that's Libby. I think he delivered, right. I mean, 316 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: you look at at his line. Five innings, one earned, 317 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: just a couple of k's. I'm sure he wanted to 318 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: see some more strikeouts, but uh, he pitched around a 319 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: lot of things. And and uh, at Lance, you touched 320 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: on it. That's your first start of the season where 321 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: you're just kind of putting a boat in the water. 322 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially first opening day, right, everything that happened, I 323 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: think he was able to navigate it and do the 324 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: things that you need to do. It's very hard to 325 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: be like perfect your first came out. There's different intensities, 326 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: there's different things you have to deal with, whether it's 327 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: scheduling and stuff like that. It's not as smooth day 328 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: and nothing really usually goes on time. So when you 329 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: walk out of it with you know, five innings of 330 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: one run baseball, if you say all right, cool, and 331 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: then you can kind of be like all right, I 332 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: can take a deep breath and then I can get 333 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: ready for my next one. So when you look back 334 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: and say, all right, five innings, one run only what two? 335 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: K's okay? Hey you it was it was not you know, 336 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: didn't get to six and wouldn't quality. But when you're 337 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: an opening day and your first opening day start as 338 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: a fig leaguer, you look up and you're like, all right, 339 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: I got through it. Now I can I can kind 340 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: of just reset and then try to, you know, just 341 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: build off of that as the season comes on. And 342 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: there's nothing worse than giving up a bunch your first 343 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: game of the year because then it's like you go 344 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: into scramble mode. So to come out of it very 345 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: solid start, you know a lot of different emotions that 346 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: are hard to explain. He was able to weather all 347 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: that with you know, the hits and stuff like that. 348 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: So I you know, i'd give him a you know, 349 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: very solid first opening day and you know, a good 350 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: one to build off for the season. 351 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: Count for you first start of the season is that 352 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: like sort of uncharted territory you didn't really know what 353 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: to expect. 354 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know that i'd say that. 355 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I think first opening day probably you know, 356 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 3: like Lance said, you know, you got a lot of 357 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: different a lot of different timing mechanisms going on, and 358 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: it's it's just like Lance said, it's not a smooth 359 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: day really for position players and certain things. Okay, fine, 360 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: but you know, for a starter, you're really almost looking 361 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: at a guaranteed non rain rain delay. I mean, you're 362 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 3: gonna you're just guessing at what time the timing of 363 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 3: everything's gonna be. So yeah, I thought Libby through the 364 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 3: ball well, you know, just kind of looking where he 365 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: was at. He was at seventy eight pitches through five 366 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 3: against a raised lineup that historically is just really they're scrappy. 367 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 3: They're a good bunch. They've got a lot of really 368 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: good hitters in this lineup. Had he not been facing 369 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: three out of four rities coming up in the sixth inning, 370 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 3: he clearly goes back out, I would guess, but a 371 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 3: one run ball game, you know, decision to go to 372 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 3: the bullpen there with the off day and let your 373 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 3: guys do it. And that decision didn't work out. But Libby, Yeah, 374 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: I like this stuff. Strikeouts. You know, you're talking to 375 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: a guy that was never a big strikeout guy. So 376 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: I hear you on the strikeouts. Everybody wants swing and miss, 377 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: but shoot navigating the lineup with his stuff and getting 378 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 3: through five innies in one run. You know, we'll take 379 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: thirty two more of those. You know, book it right now. 380 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: So happy for Libby, good first opening day start, and 381 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: definitely want to keep things rolling. So it's pretty good. 382 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, see seeing something good to build off for, That's 383 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: what it was for Libby young team. One of the 384 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: young guys really showed up yesterday, Nathan Church and three hits, 385 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: climbed the wall to rob a home run. This is 386 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: a guy who's like perennially the Cardinals' best defensive outfielder 387 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: in the minor leagues, and he hits a little. Now 388 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: he's getting a chance, I mean, gets the start. What 389 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: do you think they might have lance with Church? 390 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: I think he brings something a little different than I 391 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: think anyone wants. Right, It's like everybody wants these out 392 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: corner outfielders to hit home runs and this and that. 393 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: He's a contact guy, he's going to know the strike zone, 394 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,479 Speaker 2: he's going to play good defense, and when you have 395 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: guys like that in your lineup, it really pisses off 396 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: as starting pitcher. So I think he's a guy that 397 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: could be really good in the big leagues and be 398 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: a really quality player, especially with his defensive prowless. But 399 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: he's going to make you work. He's going to get 400 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 2: his hits, he's gonna you know, he's going to do 401 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: some things, and he's kind of always done that, but 402 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: he just doesn't have like okay, he doesn't or that 403 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: we don't project him as a thirty home run outfielder, 404 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: but it's like, hey, who cares, Like if this guy's 405 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 2: going to hit me too eighty, played good defense and 406 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: then hit me fifteen, that's a quality baseball player that's 407 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 2: going to help you win games. So I think they 408 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,239 Speaker 2: found a guy that's a quality baseball player that's going 409 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: to help you win games. And I mean there's for me, 410 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: there's similarities on the coaching staff with a guy like 411 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 2: John Jay. That's who John Jay was. John Jay was 412 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: never going to hit you twenty five home runs. But 413 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 2: John Jay was a winning baseball player and he doesn't 414 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: did winning things, So you know, I'm not going to 415 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 2: put that comparison on him right away. But that's a 416 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: good guy to you know, kind of model your game 417 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: after Becau For a lot of time, a long time, 418 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: and he's still you know, in the game doing a 419 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: lot of great things. So if you get a guy 420 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: like if he turns into a John j type player, 421 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: you got a really good guy there. And I think 422 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 2: that there's upside to even more that you you know, 423 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 2: that might come as he goes and gets a chance 424 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: to prove that he's a big league player. More the 425 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 2: more timing, guess, especially since Large is going to be 426 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: out for at least sixty days, he can. 427 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: Do a lot of little things like he has to 428 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: speed and this makes this card in the lineup, I 429 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: guess for pictures, but for everyone kind of a pain 430 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: because they have a bunch of guys who could run 431 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: and uh that could cause problems. 432 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 3: Kyle, Well, yeah, I mean I think this is what 433 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 3: about baseball to me, and how different teams do it 434 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: makes it so fascinating, right, Like, Okay, you can put 435 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 3: an you can put together a defensive outfield, because that's 436 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: kind of what it is by having Church and Scott, 437 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 3: you know, doing center and left and then you have 438 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: a second basement who's gonna have more thump than your 439 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 3: average second basement, right, So it really kind of makes 440 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: up for some of the power issues in other areas. 441 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: So I looked at JJK to kind of take some 442 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: of that stress off of not having a corner outfield 443 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 3: with thump, And I think that's, like I said, that's 444 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 3: the beauty of baseball. You spread your slug out around 445 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 3: the field. It allows you to have defense, and slug 446 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 3: at second base allows you to prioritize defense in a 447 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: bigger outfield, you know, playing in some different outfields that 448 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 3: have some you know, like Pittsburgh has a bigger left 449 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: center it it really offers some flexibility there. 450 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 2: And I think, you know. 451 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 3: I think it's good for a pitching staff. I mean 452 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 3: I'm a little biased here, but I love the idea 453 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: of having a couple guys that run it down and 454 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: take away doubles because we can look at that too. 455 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 3: How many doubles is he going to take away? Which 456 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 3: is is it more beneficial to take away a double 457 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: than hit a double? I don't know, but to me, 458 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 3: that evens out pretty pretty good. So if we can 459 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 3: take away six extra doubles, shoot, that's like going from 460 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: a twenty to a twenty six double guy at the plate. 461 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna work out for him, and 462 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 3: I like what he's bringing to the table. 463 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: A Burley's home run. Earlier cards don't have a lot 464 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: of pop. Now, Burley in that sixth inning four hundred 465 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: and thirty two foot homer, he knew it was a blast. 466 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: Everyone knew it was a blast. He did pimp it 467 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: just a little bit, but you know, after that kind 468 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: of ending, I think he deserves to do that. But 469 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: this is a guy who you know, hit for average 470 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: last year, has a pretty good sense of the strike zone. 471 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: But you guys always talk about don't try to be 472 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: a home run hitter at bull Stadium because it will 473 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: cost you. Can this guy be a twenty five maybe 474 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: thirty home run guide. 475 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: Lance, Yeah, he can. He has that ability. Just get 476 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 2: most of them on the road. That's going to help too. Right, 477 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: Here's the thing about Burley. We've talked about him quite 478 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: a bit. Burley's baseball player. He's going to do what 479 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 2: he has to do to get a hit to He 480 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: knows the time when it's time to go for one. 481 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: If you told Burley, hey, I want you to hit 482 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: twenty five, he could hit you twenty five, but he 483 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: might hit two thirty and he doesn't like that. He 484 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 2: wants to be on base. He wants to be a 485 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 2: good ballplayer to help the team win. That's what people need. 486 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: There are there are losing baseball players at twenty five 487 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: thirty home runs. I promise you that I don't care. 488 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I've played with them and they and it 489 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 2: is not fun. Don't hit me, don't hit me two 490 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 2: hundred with twenty five, and that's not going to work 491 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: for me. If you can hit two fifty, I mean 492 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: Burley hits what two eighty five and hits twenty, that's 493 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: going to go to If it stays at two eighty five, 494 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: it's going to go to twenty five, just by getting 495 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: at bats and getting used to pitchers and knowing when 496 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: your time is to do it, and just getting stronger. 497 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: And he called it Dad's strength in spring training. Like 498 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: that stuff matters, and it happens like you just learned 499 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: to clip it a little bit here when you need to. 500 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: You get a little bit more idea what they're trying 501 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: to do too. So yes, if Burley you look up 502 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: the end of year and he's two seventy five with 503 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 2: twenty five, not shocked at all, not shocked at all. 504 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 2: But if he's two ninety with twenty he's going to 505 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 2: hit you doubles and doubles, drive in runs, and do 506 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 2: things too. And that's that whole lineup. If that whole 507 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: lineup goes fifteen to twenty at two fifty plus and 508 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 2: hits their doubles, there are a pain in the butt team. 509 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 2: And you know what team is very similar to that, 510 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: The Milwaukee Brewers that just annoy everyone every year in and 511 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: year out. And that's what they're building. I don't know 512 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 2: if people have noticed that, but hey, everyone hit over 513 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: two sixty, everyone hit around fifteen to twenty home runs. 514 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 2: Still some bases played good defense. Hey we're right in 515 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: the middle of this thing. We're gonna be a problem 516 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: for people. That's what they're building and you saw it 517 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: already and it's gonna be fun. What do you think 518 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 2: about Burley Kyle? 519 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: I love Burley. I think we Lance and I probably 520 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 3: couldn't say enough good things about Alec Burlson. From the 521 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 3: first couple weeks of spring training to the first couple 522 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 3: of dinners that we went to in twenty twenty four. 523 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 3: Easy to see that this guy was a winning player. 524 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 3: Easy to see that he works hard and ha the 525 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 3: tools to be a great player, and I think as 526 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: he gets more and more comfortable, which I know that 527 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 3: sounds crazy to think, like why would Alec Burlson not 528 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 3: be comfortable yet? But there's certain guys that don't necessarily 529 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: have that comfort level until they believe that the team 530 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 3: is fully on board with them being the guy. Right, Like, 531 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: was Burlison the first base guy last year? Nope, Wilson 532 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 3: Contraras was all right, So Burley was still finding ways 533 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: to get into the lineup. When hein Bloom, I'm not 534 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 3: saying he said this to Alec Burlson, but when hein 535 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: Bloom comes up and says, hey, Alec, we just traded 536 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: Wilson Contraras. Guess who's our first baseman for one hundred 537 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: and fifty games. You go to a buddy that's a 538 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: big deal, that's a big nod, a nod of confidence, 539 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: and a guy like Alec person who is a confident player. 540 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 3: I think that does wonders for him. Put him in 541 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 3: the three hole, put him in the four hole, and 542 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 3: say hey, go hit be you. If you see it's 543 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: the time to hit a homer, go hit a homer. 544 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 3: If you see it's time to take your hit, go 545 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 3: take your hit. 546 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: I think. 547 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 3: I think he's a guy that the Cardinals fans already love. 548 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 3: And you're gonna tell that that type of a baseball 549 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 3: player is going to play really well in Bush Stadium 550 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 3: and wherever they got. 551 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: Job, job well done, and uh, that's gonna do it 552 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: for this addition of Cardinal territory. We'll see you next 553 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: time for the next episode, and hopefully that one won't suck.