1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stuff 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: I've never told you production of I Heart Radio. Today 3 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: is a big day in the virtual Sminty podcasting space. 4 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: We're really we're pushing new boundaries all the time. We 5 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: got to get it in. Let's do this right, we 6 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: gotta get it in. Yes, So today we are so 7 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: excited to be joined by the team behind the podcast, 8 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: the awesome podcast Tampon Rock. Hi, y'all, thanks for joining us. 9 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: It's three guests, so it's five of us, which is 10 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: the most we've ever had. Thank you for the impressed reaction. 11 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: That's what I was really going for. Um, would you 12 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: mind going around and introducing yourselves and a little bit 13 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: about yourself to start it off? Yeah, yeah, I agree. Okay. 14 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm Sarah Sarah Almond, and I am a co creator 15 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: of Tampon Rock and um, you know, general life enthusiast 16 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: as I live life. You know, that's me one of 17 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: the first I think that's actually defined himself that way. 18 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: So thank you for coming and bringing in a light 19 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: to the showy b It's I'll go next. Thanks Sarah 20 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: for your words. I'm Alicia um, one of the co 21 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: creators of Tampon Rock, and like Sarah, I am also 22 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: a life enthusiast. Um and uh yeah, that's that's that, 23 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: thank you. That's it reminds me of one time I 24 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: in fifth grade, I couldn't you know, you had to 25 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: come up with Samantha knows. I have a real anxiety 26 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: about fun facts, like coming up with fun facts, and 27 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: one time I used one that was very similar to 28 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: this girl named Andrea, and she like punched me in 29 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: the face. Are you okay? That sounds like childhood trauma? 30 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: Thank you for recognizing that. Yes, obviously still carry some weight. 31 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: Well on that note, um, I'm Sophie and I'm also 32 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: one of the co creators of Tampon Rock. And that's 33 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: because sometimes life enthusiast, you know, depends on the day. 34 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: I think. But are you okay? Okay? Today I'm fine, 35 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: that today I'm good. I think. I read on your 36 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: bio Sophie that you right various things, including mostly dad 37 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: ji God. I mean, you know who doesn't love a 38 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: dad joke? I try, I try. I try to keep 39 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: my skills, my skills honed. It's less of writing them 40 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: in more just like if they pop up. You know, 41 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: we're all so is a dad. I was just gonna 42 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: say yeah one day, one day. I feel like Sarah 43 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: is more of a dad than I am. Though, now 44 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: that we're well, the question is who wears the dark 45 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: socks with the sandals high socks, because that will really 46 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: test the dad of the show. I am. I am 47 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: wearing dark socks right now, but I'm not wearing sandals. 48 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm like halfway there, so dark socks with crocs. But 49 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: it's you. I think if you own crocs then yeah, right, 50 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: unless you are, that is completely understandable and you can 51 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: get um. I have fuzzy crocs and I have regular crocs, um, 52 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: and hell yeah, come at me. Yeah what like is 53 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: it just crocs that you left outside It just has 54 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: like mold on it. No, they have like a slipper lining. 55 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: Ohs was the only thing. The only thing about them though, 56 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: is that you kind of have to size them up 57 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: and crocs only come in whole sizes. You guys, this 58 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: is this is a dilemma, and I'm trying to petition 59 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: for some half sizes because I've got, you know, not enough. 60 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: I need I need extras in there. Yeah, I'm glad 61 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: we have people like you, Sarah fighting the Good Fight 62 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: petitioning crocs. We want half sizes starting now, so as 63 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: you can hear, we have three amazing people on our show. Yes, 64 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: and obviously they are quite hilarious. And I'm so excited 65 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: about this because I'm ready for a good giggles. Pressure 66 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: on us and no, definitely I have high expectations. Please 67 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: don't let me know. It's been just been a sad, 68 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: sade year already. I'm on a life enthusiast, so I 69 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: need this in my life. So on that note, I guess, uh, 70 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: could you tell us about your podcast Tampon Rock. I 71 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: usually like to say it's about tampons that rock. I'm sorry, 72 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I think it's the pressure you put 73 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: on me and I'm like trying to make jokes, but 74 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, immediately my mind just went to like a 75 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: Schoolhouse Rock of a picture of a tampon dancing and 76 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: singing with fun shoes. Yeah, I'm into that. Let's go, 77 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, not far off. Yeah, we've gotten we've gotten 78 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: some some hate tweets that were kind of like related 79 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: to that topic. Actually they were like Schoolhouse Rock, like tampons, 80 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm just like here holding my tampon 81 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: in public, No shame, just trying to be out and 82 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: proud as a woman you know who has a minstrel. Yeah, 83 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: I mean people are like, you shouldn't talk about that, 84 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: and it's not even what the podcast is about. I 85 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: was gonna say, tell us what it is exactly. Is 86 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: it about tampons? Are you singing about tampas? Are you 87 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: loving these staring at tampa? Don't? Don't just warring. It's 88 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: about two friends, that's it. I think that, Um, Sarah, 89 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: Sarah's the one that kind of I think came up 90 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: with the name of it, sort of like I think, Sarah, 91 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: this is your part when you say tampon rock is 92 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: actually blah blah blah blah. So I'm just gonna pass 93 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: it to you and then you can pass it back 94 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: and then yeah, tampon rock is like, um, a derogatory 95 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: term that like came out in the nineties that was 96 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: men sort of you know, calling out girls and women 97 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: who are making music, particularly with guitars at the time, 98 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: and um, you know, then it was kind of reclaimed 99 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: because it was it was attributed to like Teagan and 100 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: Sara stuff, although I read that they didn't they don't 101 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: like the term, although I don't know, it's the Internet, 102 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: who knows what's right. But you know, I was like, yeah, 103 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: hell yeah, I used tampons and I rock, so let's 104 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: make a podcast. And then cut to Alicia and Sophie 105 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: being like, we're in and then tampon Arc was born 106 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's about cast literally just about you know, 107 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: early twenties and being lesbians and in the music scene 108 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: and yeah, lesbians and friends and music and it's yeah, therapy. 109 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: Um what else? I mean it's a scripted podcast. I 110 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: guess we should say that because lots of them not. Um, yes, 111 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like a sitcom, but like an 112 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: audio sitcom sort of right and has Yeah, but it's 113 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: not really musical. Yeah, like we just used the music 114 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: as transitions and like as tools to like, because you 115 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: can't see what we're talking about, so you might as 116 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: well listen to it, you know, it's not like a 117 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: TV show. So yeah, and then Sarah composed all of 118 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: the transition music. She's great, she me, And so if 119 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: you'd be like, it's just sounds something like I don't know, 120 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: boys two Men and or four Minutes by Madonna and 121 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: Sarah just kind of pops it out and it's it's great. 122 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: It's a great collaborative effort, and we we worked good 123 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: as a team. Three of us are one head, you know. 124 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: So tell us about because as it is scripted, so 125 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: therefore it is fictional. Can you tell us about the 126 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: characters and kind of how this all begins? M hm Uh. 127 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: The characters are Asia and Chloe and uh, Chloe. It 128 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: seems is like they've met in college or something. They're 129 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: really close best friends, and you know, just like any 130 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: young person in their twenties, they're expanding their horizons, also 131 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: confronting some childhood trauma or not trauma, just coming into 132 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: their own It's kind of like about, you know, the 133 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: second coming of age that's not um high school. And yeah, 134 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: they're quirky little little dudes, very similar to us in 135 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: that respective their quirkiness. Um M, I think there are 136 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: versions of ourselves that we probably kind of were when 137 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: we were in our early twenties. Um, I don't know, 138 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm not I don't feel like I'm not way anymore. 139 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: But you know, now that I'm thirty, what is anything 140 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: like life goes down after you turn thirties. All downhill 141 00:09:49,640 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: here to tell you, Yeah, I've never I would have 142 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: guessed I would have at least thought thirty nine. You know, 143 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: we can. So this is I'm going to sit over 144 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: here and cry. But okay, you take that back. I 145 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: know that was my joke. That was I love it. 146 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: It's perfect. You know, you reel the men think you're 147 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: gonna say something nice, but then you're like, yeah, yeah, Siah, 148 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: the only humor that I've want in my life. I 149 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: think that's childhood trauma. So you guys, you guys reflected 150 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: a lot about your own past life into this but 151 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: making it quirky comedy. So yeah, give us a kind 152 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: of a take on a daily life of Asia and Chloe. 153 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Waking up, um, trying to find your phone, 154 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: h brushing your teeth, staring in the mirror and wondering 155 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: why you're alive? Um, what did I do last night? 156 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: Talking through the wall. No, I mean, I think I 157 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: think it's very set in, like you know, everyday activity 158 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: that's just hyped up because of the foibles that these 159 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: two are are going through, either because it's like self 160 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: perpetuated or because they you know, are confronting something for 161 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: the first time. That they've never done before. You know, 162 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: Deja is like never had sex with a woman before, 163 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: and so when that happens, you know, she's she's feeling 164 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: all sorts of things, working in out on her own 165 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: in conversations, and also you see her like not talking 166 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: about it and alluding to it in really embarrassing ways 167 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: much like yeah, yeah, yeah, totally, which I've never had sex. 168 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think that it gets better, 169 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: you guys, let's be real. I love being thirty. I'm 170 00:11:55,280 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: way less stressed off the Trevor projects. Yes, it gets better. Yeah, yeah, 171 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 1: I was gonna piggyback on that, but then I the 172 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: piggyback train just left. So it's kind of like, I 173 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: feel like it's sort of like broad City, Like they 174 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: go through these different sort of like many adventures and 175 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: then you know, while they're kind of trying to find themselves, 176 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: Like it's a lot of just like hanging out, going 177 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: to shows, playing shows, dating all that stuff, just kind 178 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: of like regular regular stuff. Yeah, minus the COVID pandemic, 179 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: which is also kind of fun. You know. Yeah, it's 180 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: like before your we didn't actor that before you have 181 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: a job that really you know, takes a lot out 182 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: of you or is like part of your identity, you know, 183 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: that kind of phase of life. Yeah, because back from 184 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: night twenties, woof, I was. I used to live in 185 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: l A. And I was out every weekend multiple times, 186 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, just West Hollywood, living it up, throwing up 187 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: in my bed. You know. It's like going out during 188 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: the week now feels like going anywhere now foreign, but 189 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: like the idea of just like during the week if 190 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: you have to work, just being like, yeah, stay out 191 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: till four you get three hours of sleep, that's fine. 192 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: Now I'm like I need twelve and a half hours 193 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: of sleep. I used to go to bars just to 194 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: stand side by side with my friend on the side 195 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: of the bar, just like looking and like sort of 196 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: talking to each other, being like you're good. And then 197 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: my friends the hill. Yeah you see anybody like I 198 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: don't know you, I don't know should we give a Um? Yeah, 199 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: I did that at the cubby Hole, you guys. Circa 200 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: cubby Hole? Do you guys? Have you ever heard of 201 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: cubby Hole. It's like one of the famous uh lesbian 202 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: bars in Manhattan, that and Henrietta Hudson, which is amazing. Um, 203 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: but you know, lesbian bars don't really exist in the 204 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: same way that gay male bars do because you know, 205 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: women get paid less, they have to um take care 206 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: of children, and apparently we're just um you know, we 207 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: like plaid and and and dinner parties. Yeah. Yeah, but 208 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: uh but yeah, I think definitely infused a lot of 209 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: that sort of young party. Yeah. Yeah, truly. It's fun 210 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: to write about that too. During COVID when we're just 211 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: stuck at home. It's a good way to sort of 212 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: live vicariously through other people who can be in the world. 213 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if that would depress me or chew 214 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: me up. I'm unsure. Um. One thing I did want 215 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: to shout out of a part of this quirkiness is, uh, 216 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: there are a lot of things like you have the 217 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: g O A L the greatest of all lesbians, you 218 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: have your resident lesbians, the resibians, but also the songs 219 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: which you've you mentioned briefly, but I love like my 220 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: heart has a heavy flow period blood like ni folds 221 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: exclamation point like. I am just such a big fan 222 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: of things like that. And one one thing we discussed 223 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: on here a lot is Smith and I both come 224 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: from really small conservative towns. The life you guys are living. 225 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about, Like we just 226 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: had and I'm like, that's what, Oh, that's what the 227 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: show is referencing this kind of life. We thought it 228 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: was a fairy tale but growing up and having like 229 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, the horror of like a tampon comes out 230 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: of your purse and your high school life is ruined. 231 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: You know. Like I love that in this show you 232 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: have embraced it and you are celebrating it because for 233 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: so many of us still it is a subject of 234 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: taboo and shame and yeah, society really sucks. It's like, 235 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: how do you live in society that makes you feel 236 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: bad for having a natural body? Like I mean they 237 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: even double back my tampon box when I go to CBS, Like, yeah, 238 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm I don't want you to tell me that I 239 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: should feel shame about this, like you know, and um, 240 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: so our songs definitely are like social commentary and us 241 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: like making fun of, um how preposterous those things are, 242 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: but also just shouting out to like you know it is. 243 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: It is really feminist humor because we're we're trying to 244 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: embrace and love ourselves and also make fun of ourselves, 245 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, like uh, the song nipples blood, Yeah, well 246 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: chunky blood. All that stemmed from. UM. My partner went 247 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: to a like Chinese medicine um herbalist in the city 248 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: and she's, you know, got like back problems, so she 249 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: was trying to figure out like anti inflammatory stuff and 250 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: this person asked her, you know, do you have blood 251 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: clots in your period? In your nostrial cycle? And that's 252 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: something that I feel like Western medicine should be asking 253 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: us because it tells you a lot about your cardiovascular system. 254 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: And that literally was a conversation that we had like 255 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: a few days before we were writing the scene and 256 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: we were trying to have like an overtly like in 257 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: your face feminist UM band. So just talk to me 258 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: about that and making a song for it as like 259 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, the band that's playing the back of this 260 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: like hyper lesbian party. UM. I just felt like so 261 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: on the nose but like extreme, you know, UM still 262 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: one of our favorite songs talking about but yeah, I 263 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: I actually I don't even think I. Sarah was just like, 264 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: all right, just go for it. And I didn't even 265 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: write down the lyrics. I just said, you tore my 266 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: heart out, Like the Diva CuPy s from me, and 267 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: I think that I want to get that tattooed, you know, 268 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: I want to get that tattooed on my arms. You know. 269 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: I don't even use a deepa cup. I'm too afraid 270 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: to really just throw something in there. I don't know 271 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: what do you guys? Should we just go around? What's 272 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: your preferred We've talked about because I have an I 273 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: U D and haven't had a period, and like, like, 274 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: do you do you feel like, um, I don't know, 275 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I know, so for me, same you 276 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: are scared that you know? I no. Yeah, so there's 277 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: so many things. But for me growing up, I had 278 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: really painful, painful periods and uh so getting an I 279 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: U D A I don't want children be I don't 280 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: want to period. So this is amazing and I've never 281 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: this is the second one I've had, and I find 282 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: it alightful. Okay with it now? Different people have different reactions. 283 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: But it did take me a good like nine months 284 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: to get used to it. Yeah, but worth it. How 285 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: was the hormonal aspect of it? Because I get like 286 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: ms PMDD really bad eally, just like over, how do 287 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: you feel like this is happening right now. Same. Yeah, 288 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: so essentially for me because I I would get all 289 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: of those things as well, and I was trying all 290 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: the birth control and they made me really sick, really 291 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: really sick. But this has been a complete heart around 292 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: for me. I will say that. So, and I do 293 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: use the one with hormones and it is the plastic one, 294 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: so it's not the Marina because Marina is going through 295 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: it through some things. But yeah, but anyway, I'm digressed. 296 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: But yes, from my own period, situation is delightful and 297 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't want it ever again. Wow. I don't think 298 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: I even knew with an iu D that you just 299 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: don't get you know, so little thought that you got 300 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: it less or something. I know. Yeah, I don't know 301 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: very much. But I feel like there should be a 302 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: formal letter sent out anytime there's like an update on 303 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: like women's health. Hi, have you heard of I U 304 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: d s. Here's for nation and it's and I U 305 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: d s are not new, It's not like it's so 306 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: that's I should know more. That's just getting different. But oh, y'all. 307 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: I did a whole series with another podcast about this 308 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: thing called the com Child, and it's horrifying and discussing 309 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: it looks like a death crad for your vagina. That's 310 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: what we called it. Is it God and lit left 311 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: and to kind of put a bad name on IU 312 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: d s. But anyway, y'all, we're going way back to 313 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: your show. Oh my God, And that's why I got 314 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: called do we just don't know enough about them? You know, 315 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: that's fair. But as you said, it's not just about 316 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: the period. It's about you coming on in the world 317 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: that doesn't well women to music, right, Yeah, totally. Yeah. 318 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: And also, like I think another thing with Tampon R. 319 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: Two is like I wanted to also make sure that 320 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, there was a space for black bear characters 321 00:20:54,280 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: and being from Indiana South Bend shout out, Um, I 322 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: never saw any of that representation. So I didn't even 323 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: know I was probably gay when I was six. I 324 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: mean I was, but you know, I would have known 325 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: a lot sooner. And um, I think that that's important. 326 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: Like I just wanted to be I wanted to have 327 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: something that was like a little version of myself would 328 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: have listened to and like related to, you know, because wow, 329 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: it took so long. I'm just like, Wow, now I'm gay. 330 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah. I think also like this show is 331 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: kind of like a version of me a um like 332 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: life that or like a way of talking that feels 333 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: so um like I just got here. I just got 334 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: to this place where I feel okay making these jokes, 335 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: telling people to listen to this content and and putting 336 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: my name behind it. And that's like me fully myself 337 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: for the first time as like a creative person and otherwise, 338 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: you know, not trying to hide anything about who I 339 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: am and um and I can't believe we got to 340 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: do that. So cool, so fun mm hmm. Yeah, So 341 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: listen to Tampon. I mean I U d rocks like 342 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: now I rocks. So yeah, obviously that has got to 343 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 1: be a huge portion of what made you want to 344 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: do this show is just to have that representation. It's 345 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: literally something that we've talked about any and I when 346 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: we talk about women making histories. There's not enough out there, 347 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: So damn, I'm going to do it myself truly, truly, truly, truly, 348 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: which is sad because it's like it's what it's and 349 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you did it. But it's also like how 350 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: many like you can name so many sis white famous 351 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: character right men? But then you how many like black 352 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: lesbians coming, you know, I got at least two, you know, 353 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: want the Pikes lean way, all right, I'm done, you know, 354 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: but like the fact that like the representation isn't out 355 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: there for a lot of even queer people in general, 356 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, or like they feel like they have to 357 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: like some actors have to hide that they're gay, or 358 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: some rappers, you know, like there's a whole thing. He's 359 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: just like anyway, I digress. This could be another podcast. Well, 360 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: how does that influence what you how you like write 361 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: your show? How does that influence and how you write 362 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: your song? I think, I know, I always want to 363 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: make sure that it's a good representation. I don't want 364 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: to do it in stereotypes, and so it's hard. It's 365 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: a hard balance because like either way somebody can have 366 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: an issue with it. So I think just doing it 367 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: is I don't know that makes sense. Like I answered 368 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 1: one of them, it's hard. The motto Like we were 369 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: doing an interview that was written I forget who was for, 370 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 1: but they asked, like what our life mottos were, and 371 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: I said, just do it from Nike, because literally sometimes 372 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: that was the ethos and the tampon rock, like just 373 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: do it, just just be just exists and try to 374 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: do right by other people. You know, we we I 375 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: think we had a really good writer's room where if 376 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: you make a joke that you know is off and 377 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: insensitive or something, we'd we check each other and you know, 378 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: respond well to that, but also want to push our 379 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, ourselves to just be funny and embrace how 380 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: weird life is and how we how silly we are all. 381 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: I don't know where I got to this now, but 382 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: let's bring it on back to representation, all right. I 383 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: feel like to like we got asked questions sometimes that 384 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 1: are like, oh this is this is really niche And 385 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 1: it's not meant to be like a you know, like 386 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: an offensive question. And I don't think it is offensive inherently, 387 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: but I think it's funny that it's like, well, why 388 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: is this niche? Not that it's that has to be 389 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: a bad thing, but it's like it's just a story 390 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: about ends, Like I think that's pretty accessible. It doesn't. 391 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't, and I don't. I feel like we don't 392 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: ask like sis white men that they're like, why is 393 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: their story so niche? Because it's like we're watching lots 394 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: of stuff that's written by straight white dudes, and that's 395 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: that is fine too, but it's like, well, why isn't 396 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: that niche, Like that's its own niche, right, So I 397 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: think we wanted to just write something that's like shows 398 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: that it doesn't have to feel like a niche exclusive thing. 399 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: This is accessible, um, you know, because it's just a 400 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: funny story about friends being weirdos in their twenties and 401 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: figuring it out and like most of us have been there, 402 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, truly great. So that was that sounds Sorry, 403 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: that sounds I'll sign off. Now we have some more 404 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: for you listeners, but first we have a quick break 405 00:25:52,800 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: for WORDSIM more sponsor and we're back. Thank you, sponsor. 406 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: It's funny when you go back all the way to 407 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: women writing literature and it was already like women's there, 408 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: and it's tiny space and it might make you feel things, ladies, 409 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: and that's still around and and going back to what 410 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: you said, you see of like the little version of yourself. 411 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: I started on this podcast as an editor in college, 412 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: and I remember thinking like I wish so badly I 413 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: had had this, like I just didn't know and I 414 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: had all these like internalized misogynistic thoughts and I didn't 415 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: know to question them. And hearing from people now who 416 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: are young and right in and say, oh, I'm so glad, 417 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: like I live in a small town, and I thought 418 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: it was the only one in hearing this, I feel 419 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: like there's someone else like me and the power of 420 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,239 Speaker 1: that um And I do think right now it is 421 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: changing and we are seeing more representation, but it's so 422 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: so so slow, And so I was just wondering, like 423 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 1: all of you have been in like the music scene 424 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: or like comedy for a while, right and if you 425 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: could talk about like what you've seen in terms of 426 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: that changing or not seen. Interesting. So I do comedy 427 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: out here in Brooklyn, and I used to do in 428 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: l A. And I wanted to get better because just 429 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: more stage time here in New York in general. And 430 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: it's interesting because I think it's like, I know, when 431 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm like the token for the show. You know, I'm 432 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: the token black lesbian, and I don't think that's like 433 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: the intention. It's like, but if I'm the only black 434 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: queer person on the all white lineup, you know that 435 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: it's this is a token thing. So it's hard because 436 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: it's like there's some shows like where you see these 437 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: people are trying to do the intent. The intent is there, 438 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: but it's like the impact is still like I'm still 439 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: being token ized, you know. It's like, oh, why couldn't 440 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: there be more? But then there's also like, well is 441 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: there a lot of black lesbian comedians? So it's just 442 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: like it's all hard. It's like a it's not even 443 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: a binary, such a gray area in this whole aspect, 444 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: but I do see it do changing a little, you know, 445 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: Like I think my best shows, ironically are with white 446 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: straight people. You know, like I'm talking about being a 447 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: black lesbian from Indiana the whole time and they love that. 448 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: They're like, oh my god, it's funny because it's ironic. 449 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: I don't know um And I think that that says 450 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: something because you know, like with even when I do 451 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: shows with queer people, I noticed that they're a little 452 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: afraid to laugh, you know, They're like, I don't want 453 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: to be wrong, but I'm like, no, I'm talking about 454 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: it's fine. Laugh. But like the white straits, they're like 455 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: that got it. We are braces are you know, Like 456 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: like I did a show in Boise and it was 457 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: like one of my best shows, and I was like, okay, 458 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: they took pictures with me after, Like I was like, wow, 459 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: is this what it's like to be a celebrity. They're 460 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, are they just posting on Facebook? Like look, 461 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: I found a black one. You know, I don't know, Like, 462 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 1: but the question was is it changing? I don't know? 463 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: That's my tape. There's a Wear's Waldo game in Indiana. 464 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: I'll remember that when I go through there one day. 465 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't don't go, just don't stop. As the one 466 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: Asian parson that pops up. Maybe I don't know what 467 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: kind of music? Have you noticed any anything changing in there? Yeah? 468 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: I mean that, like Indie Brooklyn scene was really hit 469 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: with the me Too movement because a surprise, surprise, men everywhere, 470 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: including sensitive Indie rocker, been sleep with people when they 471 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't or take advantage of people. But I think that 472 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: one thing that I've really been aware of in the 473 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: music scene, as like particularly a woman, not necessarily like 474 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: a queer woman, is that I never grew up being 475 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: incur to understand computers or engineering or science or audio stuff. 476 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: I was supposed to be hot and pretty and singing 477 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: and wearing the right clothes. So I never felt empowered 478 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: to record my own projects wholly by myself, and I 479 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: never felt like I could read an error message on 480 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: a computer and figure it out. And I'm now at 481 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: a place where like I was the producer and you know, 482 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm working with other women and there was no man 483 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: telling me, oh, how this is how you fix it 484 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 1: and making me feel that much more like, you know, 485 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: an imposter. So I think that there's been a change 486 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: for me, and I'm sure that that is the case 487 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: for some other people in the music scene, where I'm like, no, 488 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't have to just be like the singer or 489 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: the body the vessel. I can use my ears and 490 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: decide for myself how I wanted to sound. To trust 491 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: your own judgment, and I think that's a great concept 492 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: within both what you guys are saying about, yes, I'm 493 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: in this on them in the middle of this, and 494 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: for me this is I've changed this. So therefore I 495 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: don't know this respect like around because I know you're 496 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: talking about being the token, but at the same time 497 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: you're like, maybe there's not enough, there's not a lot 498 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: of black queer comedians, and then talking about being the 499 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: musician and being like, oh, I can teach myself, I 500 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: don't need you, so kind of having that introspective points. 501 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: And then also as you're developing as these humans, which 502 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: is amazing, and you're talking within your own podcasts and 503 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: the scripted podcast and a comedic podcast, do you feel 504 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: like you transfer a lot of this personal experience into 505 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: the show. And if you do, how does that feel? 506 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: Is it therapeutic? Is it vulnerable? What do you think 507 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: about all of that? There's a lot of questions. I'm 508 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: a multi question person. It's therapeutic. I think it's therapeutic 509 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: for sure, and it makes me feel impad about it 510 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: for sure. I think I've noticed though for Sarah that 511 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: it's not gonna sound bad, I promise, but like I 512 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: noticed that you seem to have more confidence with your 513 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: abilities because I mean, this industry, especially like in our 514 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: jobs like white men you know, are I don't want 515 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: to say about there above us in that sense, right, 516 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: Like that's what yeah, well and one white woman, right, 517 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: But I think that you have taken that role like 518 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: more you're like, oh, I don't need their help, like 519 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: I can do this. And I think it's sad that 520 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: we lived in like such a we still live in 521 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: a society that makes that like men think that they 522 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: we have to rely on men to think that we 523 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: are empowered. Does that make sense? I don't even know 524 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: if that's real or not. Is anything I say is real? 525 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: Is this real? Because I definitely like the whole thing 526 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: about feeling like being a token you're in this, But 527 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 1: at the same time, someone has to break those grounds 528 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: someone and it's just hard, it is, and it's very 529 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: isolating and alone, but you have to almost play it 530 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: up in order to get any recognition. And it's such 531 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: an unfortunate situation that you have to be the groundbreaker. 532 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: But someone does. Someone always donations as you. But it's 533 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: like then you're putting all this pressure on yourself that 534 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: it's like another thing that's like when does it get easy? 535 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: And sometimes it becomes and I'm guessing within this because 536 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: you are having to have that personal conversation and and 537 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: a lot of times when trying to be successful in 538 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: trying to rationalize your imposter syndrome, it becomes self deprecating. 539 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: And I'm you kind of talked about it already with 540 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: the fact that that's what's happening with Tampon Rock. When 541 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: you look at yourself as like, what is my life? 542 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: Is this worth continuing on? And this in your songs 543 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: and making it a joke? What do you feel like 544 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: could be changed within this industry? And not only like, yes, 545 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: you want to be honest about yourself, but also trying 546 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: to be a good representation. How do you balance those things? 547 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: Well that's the end of the podcast, and she never 548 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: talked about you. Again, I think it it's hard because like, yeah, 549 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: you have you have to keep in mind that representation. 550 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: But then it's like, oh, now I'm responsible for like 551 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: speaking for a group of people. And sometimes when we're 552 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: just writing, we're like, we just want to tell a 553 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: funny story that we don't have to necessarily think about 554 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: the implications of it. So it's a weird But also 555 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: we do because that's important too. So it is a 556 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: weird fine line that you have to walk, and I 557 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: feel like you can't really escape it. And again, I 558 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: feel like dudes don't necessarily have to think about that, 559 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: especially if you're assist white person, Like it's just such 560 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: a whole different conversation and being like, oh, people are 561 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: actually watching me. I wanted this, but I didn't want this. Yeah, yeah, 562 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: I think I learned a lot too from you guys 563 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 1: during this process, like how to be kind to yourself 564 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: and be like I'm just creating and I'm going to 565 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: try and be a good person and that, you know, 566 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to have that as my jumping off point. 567 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: But also like it's okay when I mess up, you know, 568 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: like it's okay, it's okay. Just just do it and 569 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: just create and learn. Bro. Yeah, I think self compassion 570 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: that's the biggest something I learned in therapy. Like, oh, like, 571 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: I know this term is so stupid. It's not stupid, 572 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Uh, it's dumb. No. Um, it's just like 573 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: the fact that you treat yourself like you treat your 574 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: best friend, Like how your what would you say if 575 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: your best friends? Like, oh I don't think this music 576 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: is good, but you're like, oh no, I think it 577 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: sounds great. I think you just have to be more 578 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: confident in yourself. Blah blah. You know what I'm saying, 579 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: like treating yourself talking to yourself that way, so you know, 580 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: with the imposter syndrome kind of like using that same 581 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: self compassion technique. But it's hard because I think women 582 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: have been conditioned to think that we are not at 583 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: that better level, you know, I don't know. We do 584 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: have a little bit more for you listeners, but first 585 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: we have one more group break for work from our sponsor, 586 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: and we're back sponsor. The three of y'all are just 587 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: complimenting each other as you take tors and like answering 588 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: each other and uplifting each other, which I know is 589 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: kind of a bedrock for the friendships within the show. 590 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: Can you kind of talk about that and why that's important? 591 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: That was an accident means to uplift to anybody is 592 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: not usually this nice to us. So I feel like 593 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: Deja Like is a really good example of somebody who's 594 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: like trying to listen to herself and trying to do 595 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: right by herself, And she's a really good example for 596 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: somebody kind of navigating that and having the hiccup of 597 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,959 Speaker 1: being in a relationship with somebody and not sure what 598 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: she wants and then ultimately figuring out what she wants 599 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: and doing it. But it's fun to watch her be 600 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: kinder to herself and just like make her music that 601 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: she wants to make and then see it juxtaposed with Chloe, 602 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: who like can't figure out a way to fully like 603 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: love herself. And obviously Dave's just doing the same thing 604 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: like she She's figuring out ways that she needs to 605 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: love herself more and as well. But yeah, that's that's 606 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,760 Speaker 1: so important to to the the whole theme of the show. 607 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: And I'm sure that's what it would be, you know, 608 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: in coming episodes of it if we do a season two, 609 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,479 Speaker 1: you know, just more learning of how to be kind 610 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: of to yourself, and that's our ted talk. I don't know. 611 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: I think Burnee Brown, she's I like to say she's 612 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 1: my cousin, but they have the same last name. But 613 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: also she is a white woman. But I think that 614 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: a lot of her rhetoric two is in here, like 615 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: we're being vulnerable with our art, and I think that's 616 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: the only way you can really like get what you want. 617 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, she didn't really say that, so I 618 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: could be misquoting, So I'm sorry, Renee, that's your quote now? 619 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah then Brown, no, not no more. And it's funny 620 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: because my middle name is Renee Perfect. So so my 621 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: girlfriend has me in her phone as Alicia Burnet Brown. Yeah, 622 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: you should put a bee in brackets and besides your 623 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: your middle name, Okay, Okay, well I'm just gonna blogging. See, 624 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: I told you she's not. It's funny. I feel like 625 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: to some of just being vulnerable, like it feels so 626 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: scary in the moment. And then we've started to get 627 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: some like troll reviews of the podcast, and it's weird. 628 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: I find I'm like, this is hilarious because I realized 629 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: that the people who are responding badly to it, I'm like, well, 630 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: it's fine, Like I know it'll start to wear on 631 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 1: us eventually. I think it's just a novelty to be like, 632 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: oh my god, it's not just my mom listening to this. 633 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: But it's funny that it's like it doesn't feel as 634 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: bad after the fact for some reason. I'm like, yeah, 635 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: you're on we put it out there and you have 636 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: confident and where you stand. Yeah I need that advice. Yeah. 637 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: It is liking to me though, you know, like obviously 638 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: misogyny in general is huge, and racism and all that 639 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 1: stuff plagues our lives, but it is kind of shocking 640 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: when you see a Twitter feed of bots or something 641 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: and it's just like whoa dang. It's like I've never 642 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: really criticized people or anything, just because I like I 643 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: feel like sometimes it's that thing of like when you're 644 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: pointing at someone, that other hand is like pointing back 645 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: at you. So I feel like a lot of it's 646 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: just like projection and like that's their own stuff, you know. 647 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: So I always feel like the men who commented, like, oh, 648 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: like it's they're just saying it's bad to be me, 649 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 1: and like our theme song is like if you're misogynistic, 650 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: don't listen, and they're like they got offended because they 651 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: can't be a misogynist anymore. Like yeah, it's like, well, 652 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: we didn't want you to listen anyway. So I don't 653 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: care what you're doing. I don't know. Yeah, I will 654 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 1: say I'm with you with the whole like, oh yeah, 655 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing a good thing because obviously when we at 656 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: trolls it's very obvious. But yeah, taking critiques is really hard. 657 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: And I don't come from a background of performing I 658 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: come from social services and social work. So when I 659 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: started this and I saw the reviews, I literally had 660 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: to have a sit down with several of the hose, 661 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: including any and be like, how do you deal with 662 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: this when people are critiquing your voice? How like personal? 663 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: What is happening. I don't like my voice. I get it. 664 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: I hear why you hate. So with all of the 665 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: trolling and all these things, you know you're doing something 666 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: right if the people who you're saying this is not 667 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: for you are already telling all themselves me, like, are 668 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: you calling me something without knowing what the show is about. Yeah. 669 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm so relieved though, to have feedback from haters then 670 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: to just have sort of like people be kind of 671 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: bored or like, oh, that was nice because I was 672 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: raised to be like a nice person. But because I 673 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: was so nice, it was always putting what other people 674 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: wanted from me first, and then I never created anything 675 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: that was authentic Like I when I was first singer 676 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: songwriter at like eighteen, I wrote like emotional song that 677 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: I never pushed and really showed like fully myself because 678 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: I was trying to please other people. And you know, 679 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: so it feels really great. It feels like a relief 680 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: to not do that a big thing Chloe goes through, right, 681 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: Yes exactly. I was just gonna say, yeah, well, so 682 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: I think we've talked a lot about kind of everything 683 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 1: around it. For a person who's never heard your show 684 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: doesn't exactly know what's going on? Can you describe the 685 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,959 Speaker 1: basis of your show, the layout of what you've done, 686 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: and what it's about and who is for. We'll just 687 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: do this in rounds. Okay, the first section, what's it about? 688 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: What's it for? Who's it for? Okay? For everybody? Rated 689 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: E for everyone? And I think it's a scripted podcast 690 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: about two friends who go through their early twenties. And 691 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: the music element comes from the transition scenes. So in 692 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: a sitcom, you're able to see what's next, but I 693 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: think we see what's Yeah, yes, me and Sarah the 694 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: narrators as well, that's spoiler something we forgot to say. 695 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: So we we act like the fair. Yeah, we say 696 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: things like, um, they're walking in there talking, but you 697 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: can see it because it's a podcast, see it. Yeah, 698 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: now to the next Yeah, so very literal. I like it. 699 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,240 Speaker 1: It's pretty meta. I love that. So we have Chloe 700 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 1: in Asia, So do we get to see relationships developed? 701 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: Do we get to seeking up what is all of this? Yeah, 702 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: you won't see it or do we won't hear it? 703 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: But no, no, can you imagine it a little bit? 704 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if that's what is 705 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: that would that be porn. I don't know, if you're listening, 706 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 1: what do you should we do? SMR Like I just 707 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 1: an we had a little softcore audio action going on 708 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: in the show. Yeah, I mean okay, sure, I'm like, sure, okay, 709 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: now I'm afraid. And it's based out of New York. Correct. 710 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: They live in Oakland, which have Yeah, I realized. I 711 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: thought I went there, but it wasn't Oakland. It was Berkeley, 712 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: and we were just like, I think for us, we 713 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 1: were like, let's write about something that's not New York 714 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: in that l A. So I think we felt like 715 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: Oakland was right in the middle. Yeah, I don't know, 716 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: I right, so fake this fine. I just love picking 717 00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: on you for no reason because she's so funny that sorry, yeah, 718 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: everyone's so what else do we do? We answer the question. 719 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 1: Desa has somebody that she dates consistently throughout the season, 720 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: Gina Um and Chloe kind of has a relationship with 721 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 1: her mom and her therapist as well. During the her 722 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: face not a yeah about just the part I feel 723 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: like chould that feel like where she would seize her 724 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: therapist and yeah, yeah, yeah definitely could be a dream 725 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: though that Yeah, that would be intense idea. I'm gonna 726 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 1: a little too far, I guess. Of speaking of, do 727 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: you have anything any future plans, anything on the horizon 728 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: you're excited about. Yeah, the end of the pandemic. Yeah, 729 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,959 Speaker 1: as soon as it's over. Oh my gosh, I'm gonna 730 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: be inside the whole time. Yeah. I can't wait to 731 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: be inside. But it's differently inside. Yeah, but we we 732 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 1: hope to keep, you know, expanding the audience and hopefully, 733 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: you know, do season two. I know we We've got 734 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: a lot of music from the episodes that have like 735 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: longer versions and I kind of want to put some 736 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: of them out and yeah, we're talking about doing just 737 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: sort of a behind the scenes, you know episode as well. 738 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: I cannot wait till spring, you guys, That's really what 739 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to. I just want to hear birds 740 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: and have the sun on my phone. So is the 741 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: whole season on Tampa rock out right now, binge it 742 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 1: baby now, and Don't Go and possibly a season two? 743 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 1: What's so with everything that happened in season one, learning 744 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: about these women and who they are and in surviving 745 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 1: their twenties and having therapists and relationships, what does season 746 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: two look like? That's probably the same. They don't learn 747 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: from anything from season one, so now I don't know. 748 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: I want there to be like drama. I wanted to 749 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,439 Speaker 1: be like Gray's Anatomy size things, you know, like airplane 750 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: hits the hospital, or like there's a bomb bomb and 751 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: in Chloe's body or something like that. Right now, she's 752 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: actually a cyborg. You know, we we don't know what's 753 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: going to happen. She slips into concrete and then her 754 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: body gets encased in in concrete and they have to 755 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: chip her out. Yeah great, Yeah, yeah, that was very 756 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: very specifics Sarah. Great, that's an episode of Grey's Anatomy, 757 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: Like somebody gets rolled in like a boulder with like 758 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: a head corps. I missed that but a little bit. 759 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: But so you guys have your own things as well 760 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: as himp on rock. So what are y'all up to individually? 761 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: A lot of a lot. I'm trying to write a 762 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: dating book. Yeah, but then I now that I'm in 763 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 1: a relationship, I forgot how to date. Yeah, I'll see 764 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 1: what happens. I'm going to get married this year, so 765 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: that's exciting. Yeah, and gosh, you guys, you gotta have 766 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: a lot of spreadsheets. If you want to do it 767 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 1: and not spend a bit jillion dollars. That's like kind 768 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: of a part time job that I got going on 769 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: right now. But you know, I'm also working on music 770 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: and Sophie. You know, I'm sleeping a lot, you know, 771 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: a lot of naps and eating a lot and no, 772 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm I have a bunch of sort 773 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: of pilots and stuff that I've been wanting to write forever, 774 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: and I feel like if I can't do it during 775 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 1: a pandemic, when I can't do anything else and I 776 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: have lots of free time, like you know, this is 777 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: the time, but it's winter and it's hard. Yeah, don't 778 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: please be kind to her, so, you know, thank you 779 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: pandemic to you know, like we're all adjusting. It's like 780 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: you finished watching The Night Stalker, so you know it's 781 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,240 Speaker 1: good and it will come to you and it's okay. 782 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't believe pressure on yourself. Wow, that's so nice. 783 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,919 Speaker 1: Are you going to say something mean now to under? 784 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 1: But then I didn't have the same way. If I 785 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: have to give you a compliment, I also have to 786 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: insult you. So yeah, I can't. I can't. That doesn't 787 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,399 Speaker 1: feel right. It doesn't feel right. So essentially, you guys 788 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 1: have a lot of plans, a lot of things happening, 789 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: personal life stuff happening, being groundbreaking in every way obviously 790 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,240 Speaker 1: in your fields, in your life. I love it writing 791 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: dating books. Send that out to everyone, please, I'm sure 792 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,320 Speaker 1: people have advice. Just make it, you know, put it 793 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: in there with something about make sure to get Crocs 794 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: O croc sponsorship to recommend it. They're not just for gardening, 795 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 1: you guys. Oh that's a good one, Crocs. They're not 796 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 1: just for guarden. Someone needs to get us an ad 797 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: for that. A deal, so I and get some Crocs now, Yeah, 798 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:08,959 Speaker 1: a sponsor. Always say anything else you want to say 799 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: before we wrap up, and then we'll shout out to 800 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: the show. Of course, just like follow, you know, tampon 801 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 1: rock and listen to it. Social media things were on. 802 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: We're on those TikTok, Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram. We're not on Snapchat. 803 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 1: Y'all are way cooler than us, because I thought Snapchat 804 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: was gone. It is, we don't. I don't even know 805 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 1: if it exists anymore. It was just like me saying 806 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: myspaceace young for that. All right, let's do one thing. 807 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: Advice for all of the up and coming UH women 808 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: specifically or those who identify as women coming into their 809 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: love lives and coming into finding themselves and being confident. 810 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,760 Speaker 1: Can you give that to them? This is my jam, honestly, 811 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: Just be vulnerable and authentic, Like once you have that, 812 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: you can't go wrong. Be honest with yourself and your feelings, 813 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, because I think I'm going to go on 814 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 1: a pedestal. Let's just let's just cut me off now, 815 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: because it's true. You know, like I think that we're 816 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 1: so afraid of communicating like what we actually want and 817 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: not listening to ourselves that we end up being an 818 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: unhappy relationships or being in something that you're actually not into. 819 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: You know, like that person is like being very avoidant 820 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: and you're just like, oh, I have to I have 821 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 1: to be with them, I have to be with them. 822 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 1: It's like, no, that's not who you want. If you 823 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 1: have to like force this person to be with you, 824 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 1: that's not That's not it anyway. Sorry, that's that's Alicia 825 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: Brown and Dating Book on Sundays at two p m. Sophie, 826 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: what about you, Oh, dating, I don't know, but it 827 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be dating. I'm stealing Sarah's life motto, 828 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: which is just do it. I feel like women and 829 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: people identify as women need to be able to just 830 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: do what they want to do. And if you have 831 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 1: something you want to try, then you should do it 832 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: because men get to do that, you know, true. I 833 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: like that, Just do it because men get to do it. Great. Yeah, 834 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: And I would just add try to remind yourself that 835 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,839 Speaker 1: you are enough. You know, you don't need to like 836 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 1: learn something so that you're more experienced or you have 837 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 1: that thing, do it because you're interested in it, like 838 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:28,399 Speaker 1: you are enough. Yes, thank you all so much for 839 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: being here, such a lovely conversation. You're welcome back anytime. 840 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: And the listeners, yes, you can find them. We trust 841 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: your abilities, your Internet sleuthing abilities. And you can subscribe 842 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,280 Speaker 1: to the podcast, which you absolutely should. 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