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Speaker 1: matter what the truth is, one thing we do know,

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Speaker 1: the almost finished Biden team is falling down on its

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Speaker 1: one last job. Back here on the ground. Alleged murderer

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Speaker 1: case the new trial of the century. As each hour passes,

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Speaker 1: we learn more about just who Joe Biden pardon last week.

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Speaker 1: The list of outrageous names and cases is growing as

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Speaker 1: one despicable case after another, a major embarrassment and an

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Speaker 1: expensive price stag for ABC News as it settles with

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Speaker 1: President Trump over a falsehood uttered by anchor George Stephanopoulos

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Speaker 1: The question is what lessons have been learned from the

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Speaker 1: Duke lacrosse team rape case. And who will learn them.

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Speaker 1: American Sunrise Early Edition starts right now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to American Sunrise Early Edition, the show where faith,

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Speaker 2: freedom and the values that built this nation takes centers to.

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Speaker 3: Your good, thieves and bad deeds. That's how we're going

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Speaker 2: Join host Jake Novak as he breaks down the stories

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Speaker 3: He will be letting the public know regularly what we

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Speaker 1: Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us here on

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Speaker 1: American Sunrise Early Edition. I'm Jake Novak, and one thing

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Speaker 1: I won't do on this program is pretend to know

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Speaker 1: exactly who is behind these mystery drones in New Jersey

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Speaker 1: But I will join in the chorus of people like

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Speaker 1: about that and more is Nicole Kipperloves. She's a Republican strategist. Nicole,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. Have you ever seen a

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Speaker 1: more egregious example of dereliction of duty as the Biden

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Speaker 4: Well, look this is pretty on brand. I mean, we're

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Speaker 4: I think the exact number is somewhere over eight hundred billion,

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Speaker 4: and the American people deserve answers. The US government has

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Speaker 4: well we just don't know, or it's probably not nefarious,

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Speaker 4: or what you're seeing is probably just manned aircraft is

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Speaker 4: essentially gas lighting. The gas lighting of the Biden Harris

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Speaker 4: it's the case that this is merely just a continuation

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Speaker 4: of this pattern of a lack of transparency. I think

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Speaker 4: they're downplaying residents' concerns because they're hiding something. Why should

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Speaker 4: we believe anything they're saying. Why should we believe they're

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Speaker 4: not hiding something when they, for example, they handled the

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Speaker 5: And you know, Jake, I think the biggest.

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Speaker 4: Problem here is that there's already been so much erosion

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Speaker 4: only is this situation a great example of a lack

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Speaker 4: would you trust it. I'd say no.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I feel like one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: And they did it with the border. Remember they told

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Speaker 3: There were about five minutes.

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Speaker 1: There where I thought that suspected killer Luis Maanngeone would

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Speaker 1: Or do you see the same ugly maybe costly slog

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Speaker 4: I think it's it's gonna be tough, it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: I also think it's ironic. I can't not point this

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Speaker 1: Be some really awful people he was going to try

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's failed presidency is ending with the jail break

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Speaker 3: What's your take on this?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what could possibly be the motivation for this

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Speaker 4: I think it's worth pointing out, by the way that

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Speaker 4: We've been seeing that for the past four years, and

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Speaker 4: That'll stop under Trump. We're going to have a functioning

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Speaker 4: So with these commutations, what we're seeing is they're them

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Speaker 4: That's why you see so much pressure to grant preemptive pardons,

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Speaker 4: which is different than the commutations for people who haven't

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Speaker 4: but the left is loose using their minds because they

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Speaker 4: Trump has said over and over again that his biggest

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Speaker 1: That's right, Well, let's talk about success for a second.

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Speaker 1: Of Cole doesn't get much sweeter than this for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: ABC News decided to settle the lawsuit brought against it

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Speaker 3: From this year?

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, fifteen million, I think it's sixteen with

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Speaker 4: less political gain. And speaking of George Stephanopolis, specifically in

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Speaker 4: that's why he's asking her how she can endorse a

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Speaker 4: irony is that when Stephanopoulos was Bill Clinton's communications director,

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Speaker 5: People forget that, but they shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: No, they shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: And I as you sure remember that politicians are hypocrites.

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Speaker 3: They always are.

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Speaker 1: That's actually a definition of what a politician is a

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Speaker 1: right Nicole. Another big story over the weekend, and that

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Speaker 1: it's not that unrelated, it's what we're talking about with women,

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Speaker 1: Now she totally made up her sensational rape charges against

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Speaker 3: Back in two thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: Now, Nicole, I think people are incorrectly focusing just on

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Speaker 1: and I'm really glad to be with you. Well, it

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Speaker 3: Here's some truth from them. Check it out.

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Speaker 6: It's going to give us something to remember him by.

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Speaker 2: So he signed out with this, and.

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Speaker 7: You know, one of the things that's going on here?

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Speaker 6: Here another gay, Joe, you shall giving up something to

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Speaker 2: You still up to talk about it?

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Speaker 9: I don't know. Well anyways, it's like, come on me

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Speaker 6: And live everything wants to tell a product.

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Speaker 9: Now you can't be worried about what you're gonna say,

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Speaker 9: God, my god, the Panics. He broke into a cold sweat.

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Speaker 6: So now Joe went into his speech, a very profound,

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Speaker 7: I'm not being a wise guy. If we do not

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Speaker 3: What do we do in Africa?

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Speaker 6: You can't tell me. They just live Joe Mickey that

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Speaker 1: SmackDown is the name of that show where you can

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Speaker 3: The hard truths.

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Speaker 1: It airs here on Real America's Voice every Saturday night

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Speaker 3: The next four years when he meets with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: and I'll talk about that in a second, and you're

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Speaker 1: not having that conversation on the basis of the simple

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Speaker 1: a conversation worth having. The price of anything that you

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Speaker 1: and demand, and there's no getting around it. So if

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Speaker 1: you want the price of something to come down, you

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Speaker 1: have two options. You can either kill demand, which is

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Speaker 1: what Canada and the socialized medicine countries are trying to do.

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Speaker 1: That's why they make you wait for six hours. It's

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Speaker 1: not only because they don't have enough doctors and hospitals.

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Speaker 1: It's also because they're trying to discourage people from showing

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Speaker 1: up in the first place. This is pretty disgusting and

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Speaker 1: scary someone with an aneurism. Make them wait six hours

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Speaker 1: and maybe I'll go home, and then we save some money.

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Speaker 1: And that's the deal there, I know, And there's probably

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Speaker 1: to go in the first place. All right, So that's

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Speaker 1: item that's literally the policy these people are pursuing. Of course,

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Speaker 1: it easier to become a doctor in your country. The

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Speaker 1: United States, we make it exceedingly difficult just to get

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Speaker 1: into a medical school. We make it exceedingly difficult to

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Speaker 1: go to medical school and pay the tuition. We make

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Speaker 1: it exceedingly difficult to become a resident. There are more

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Speaker 1: residency there are more people who graduate from med school

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Speaker 1: every year than there are hospital residencies available. How does

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Speaker 1: that make any sense? And then we make it really

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Speaker 1: hard to remain a doctor. You get tested constantly every

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Speaker 1: year or so, you have to go for weeks of testing. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm all for making sure our doctors are tested properly,

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Speaker 1: but every single year.

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Speaker 3: And guess what.

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Speaker 1: The company that administers the test is a monopoly that

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Speaker 1: makes a ton of money for very little effort on

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Speaker 1: their part. By the way, we have a bottleneck in

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Speaker 1: this country when it comes to healthcare. We've allowed our

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Speaker 1: hospitals to consolidate. What could possibly go wrong with that?

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Speaker 1: A monopoly in healthcare? It's the most insane and a policy,

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Speaker 1: and that doesn't make much sense. So let's talk about

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Speaker 1: some however, encouraging healthcare news.

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Speaker 3: It's not all gloom and doom.

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Speaker 1: Here on American Sunrise Early edition, the Alzheimer's Foundation of

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Speaker 1: America is launching a new AI tool.

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Speaker 3: This is so important to.

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Speaker 1: Help the many Americans who are care for someone with

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Speaker 1: Alzheimer's disease at home. Joining me now to talk about

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Speaker 1: this is the president of the Alzheimer's Foundation of America,

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Speaker 1: Chuck fascilla, Chuck, tell us about the virtual assistant. I

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Speaker 1: love how you gave her a name. Tell us about

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Speaker 1: the virtual assistant named Alison.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so we created an avatar named Allison to ensure

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Speaker 10: that people have, you know, answers to questions and the

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Speaker 10: availability of services twenty four hours a day. You know,

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Speaker 10: this disease never takes time off. It doesn't go to sleep,

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Speaker 10: and we want to make sure we're there for anybody,

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Speaker 10: any time of the day, anywhere, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, Chuck, Before we talk about how this can affect

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Speaker 1: the actual care of the Alzheimer's patient, let's just talk

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Speaker 1: about that caregiver for a second. I remember a young

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Speaker 1: Kipper service I attended maybe fifteen sixteen years ago, where

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Speaker 1: the rabbi devoted his entire sermon, in the entire service

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Speaker 1: to the caregivers.

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Speaker 3: The people who are you know, we don't know about them.

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Speaker 1: They don't wear the nurse's uniform, they don't have the

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Speaker 1: doctor's stethoscope, but they are doing an incredible service.

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Speaker 3: And yes, we might excuse it and say like, well,

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Speaker 3: it's for their family member.

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Speaker 1: Of course they have to do it, but that's so

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Speaker 1: much more easier said than done. I assume that your

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Speaker 1: foundation has millions of stories like this, but and this

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Speaker 1: is really something that these people need our support in

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Speaker 1: more ways than just an AI program.

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Speaker 10: Correct, You're absolutely right, And you know what, twenty two

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Speaker 10: years ago, we were founded by a caregiver, mister burg Brodsky,

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Speaker 10: who was caring for his mom back in the eighties

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Speaker 10: and nineties.

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Speaker 3: And it's exactly where you're talking.

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Speaker 10: He had no place to go for guidance, counseling, and

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Speaker 10: support at the time when his mom passed away. He

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Speaker 10: created the Alzheimer's Foundation of America to ensure that caregivers

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Speaker 10: had the necessary support and resources. And the reason is,

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Speaker 10: you can't go on this journey alone. You need support services.

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Speaker 10: You need to build a team, and that's what AFA

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Speaker 10: is all about.

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Speaker 1: So the Virtual Assistant Alice, I'm thinking maybe this is

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Speaker 1: something where if a caregiver sees a certain symptom or

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Speaker 1: is worried about I mean, can this help in emergency situations?

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure you advise these people to call nine

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Speaker 1: to one one if it's a real emergency, But while

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Speaker 1: that waiting period is going, I mean, do you have

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Speaker 1: some of this technology built in that they'll be giving

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Speaker 1: some kind of guidance and things to check.

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Speaker 10: For we do, and that's the whole purpose of the avatar.

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Speaker 10: That's the whole purpose of Alison. You know, she supports

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Speaker 10: and supplements the work of our licensed social workers that

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Speaker 10: are dementia specifically trained, and she has the input the

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Speaker 10: questions and answers for one hundreds and hundreds of commonly

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Speaker 10: asked questions that a caregiver may ask at any point,

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Speaker 10: any time of the day. And we want to make

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Speaker 10: sure that while she is going on this journey caring

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Speaker 10: for a loved one or friend, or whether she's a

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Speaker 10: professional or not, that she has the accessibility in the tools,

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Speaker 10: free of charge to find out the answers to the

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Speaker 10: questions of what may be going on in somebody's life

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Speaker 10: at that moment.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's an important point you made at the end there.

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Speaker 1: So this is this a free of charge service? How

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Speaker 1: can people find this? I mean, I assume they can

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Speaker 1: go on the Alzheimer's Foundation of America website, but any

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Speaker 1: other guidance you have for people who want to get

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Speaker 1: who want to get this service, So.

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Speaker 3: That's as simple as that.

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Speaker 10: Just go to our website which is alz FDN dot

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Speaker 10: org and Allison is right there, or they can just

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Speaker 10: call a toll free number which is our office and

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Speaker 10: be connected with a licensed social worker at eight sixty

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Speaker 10: six two three two eight four eighty four. And all

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Speaker 10: the services are free of charge.

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, so you can google or bing Alzheimer's

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Speaker 1: Foundation of America check Fuschilla. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: joining us and bringing us this positive news.

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Speaker 3: Is uplifting news. Can't be all doom and gloom, especially

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Speaker 3: on healthcare.

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Speaker 1: Let's all pray, by the way, for a real cure

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Speaker 1: for Alzheimer's disease in our lifetime.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, we'll be joined by an investigative journalist who

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Speaker 1: has been spending a lot of time digging through that

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Speaker 1: massive list of part in clemency recipients. The outrages are

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Speaker 1: piling up by the hour, and that is next when

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Speaker 1: American Sunrise Early Edition continues. Welcome back to American Sunrise

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Speaker 1: Early Edition. Here are some of America's top stories this morning.

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Speaker 1: Everyone has their favorite theory about who or what is

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Speaker 1: behind the mysterious drones.

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Speaker 3: Hovering over most much of America. But one thing that

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Speaker 3: isn't in question.

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Speaker 1: The Biden team is mismanaging the whole affair back here

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Speaker 1: on the ground, alleged murderer Luigi Mangione won't be going

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Speaker 1: quietly at all. He's hired a top new lawyer who

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Speaker 1: may try to make his case the new trial of

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Speaker 1: the century.

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Speaker 3: Oh great.

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Speaker 1: A major embarrassment and expensive price tag for ABC News

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Speaker 1: as it settles with President Trump over a falsehood uttered

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Speaker 1: by anger George Stephanopolos about President Trump on the air

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 3: But Stephanopolis is still on.

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Speaker 1: The air and he offered no on air apology on

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Speaker 1: his Big Sunday morning show. One of the biggest potential

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Speaker 1: confirmation roadblocks for Defense Secretary designate Pete Hegseth may no

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Speaker 1: longer be a problem. South Carolina Senator Lindsay Graham now said,

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Speaker 1: as he's in a quote good place with Pete, But

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Speaker 1: more and more Americans are not in a good place

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Speaker 1: with Joe Biden as they learn about the ever growing

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Speaker 1: list of pardons and sentenced commutations for some of the

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Speaker 1: most horrific criminals in the US. Welcome, Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: American Sunrise Early Edition. I'm Jake Novak, and it's those

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Speaker 1: pardon outrages, the commutation outrages that I really want to

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Speaker 1: focus on right now because it is changing by the

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Speaker 1: minute and getting worse by the minute. Joining us now

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Speaker 1: to do that is independent investigative journalist Walter Kurt and Walter,

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Speaker 1: you wrote this piece about these outrageous pardons titled Biden's

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Speaker 1: Christmas to America.

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Speaker 3: But honestly, Walt, you're gonna have to update.

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Speaker 1: That story now because I really by the hour, because

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Speaker 1: it keeps getting worse.

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Speaker 11: Correct, Yeah, every minute it gets worse. I mean there's

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Speaker 11: now they've found the kids for cash, Judge, they've got

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Speaker 11: you know, every it seems like every fifteen minutes, someone

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Speaker 11: releases another list. I actually went through all fifteen hundred

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Speaker 11: names the day of and it was so bad that

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Speaker 11: you can't you can't do it all. Like, there's going

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Speaker 11: to have to be ten articles about this. You'll have

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Speaker 11: to publish update after update after update, because every ten minutes,

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Speaker 11: someone's found a whole new list of being that I

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Speaker 11: started going alphabetically at first, and then you look at

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Speaker 11: it and these are all drug traffickers, but they're non violent.

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Speaker 11: That's my favorite part about this. They say that drug

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Speaker 11: trafficking is now a non violent offense according to the

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Speaker 11: Biden administration, and that is absurd to begin with, and

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Speaker 11: let alone the fact that some of these people weren't

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Speaker 11: just you know, normal drug salesmen. They were drug traffickers,

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Speaker 11: massive schemes, hundreds of pounds of marijuana, thousands of pounds

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Speaker 11: of or you know, fifty key lows of cocaine is

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Speaker 11: one of the people I have on my list. It's

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Speaker 11: completely absurd that they've claimed that these are all non

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Speaker 11: violent offenders. I mean, is drug trafficking no longer considered

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Speaker 11: part of violent crime? Is that we're trying to make

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Speaker 11: the assumption?

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, let's go through some of these cases, because

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Speaker 1: we got to go through I mean, again, this is

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Speaker 1: just a really drop.

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Speaker 3: In the bucket. But let's go through these cases one

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Speaker 3: by one.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the co founder of Hamas, the brother

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Speaker 1: of the longtime leader of the terrorist organization. Now Biden

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Speaker 1: commuted his sentence four years early. They had another four

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Speaker 1: years to go in jail.

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Speaker 3: He's out early. No one knows why.

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Speaker 1: But remember while he did this before any of the

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Speaker 1: American hostages currently held by Hamas and Gaza have been released,

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Speaker 1: and there's been no discussion of how this is some

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Speaker 1: kind of a.

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Speaker 11: Trade off, right, Well, that's what really shocking to me.

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Speaker 11: I mean this one specifically. And then there's the Chinese

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Speaker 11: nationals that they claim were part of a prisoner swap.

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Speaker 11: But who did we get. No one has said anything

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Speaker 11: about who we got as a prisoner swap. They've claimed

661
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Speaker 11: that this is supposed to be something that was, you know,

662
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Speaker 11: back behind the scenes. No one knows about it. Well,

663
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Speaker 11: I cannot, for the life of me, I have not

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Speaker 11: found anybody that we got back for trading these people out.

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Speaker 11: Who did we get? Does anyone know? No one's mentioned it.

666
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Speaker 11: If they have, It's unbelievable to me. I mean, this

667
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Speaker 11: SAMAS leader was twenty year sentence and he's completely out.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Walter, your references is briefly a moment ago.

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Speaker 1: This is in one case. I can't think anyone would

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Speaker 1: have predicted. No one would have predicted this. This is the

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Speaker 1: infamous Cast for Kids judge Judge Michael Conahan, who took

673
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Speaker 1: bribes from for profit juvenile detention center operators in return

674
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Speaker 1: pre sentencing many teens to detention who otherwise would have

675
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Speaker 1: been punished.

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Speaker 3: Much less severely.

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Speaker 1: Here's how he was confronted years ago after his sentencing

678
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Speaker 1: by a mob of one of those teens that he

679
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Speaker 1: sentenced to detention for a very minor crime.

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Speaker 3: Who ended up committing suicide. Over listen to this.

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Speaker 11: You remember me?

682
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Speaker 5: Do you remember me?

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Speaker 2: Do you remember my son?

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Speaker 3: All Star wrestlers Goody Size?

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Speaker 12: That a heartbroken, really an outraged mother lashing out at

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Speaker 12: former judge Mark Siverrella.

687
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Speaker 3: Now her son, an All Star.

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Speaker 12: Wrestler, killed himself after being seid to a juvenile detention

689
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Speaker 12: facility for a minor drug offense. Now it turns out

690
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Speaker 12: that Chivarella was accepting money to do that, send kids

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Speaker 12: away for cash.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable, Walter, I'm just gonna say this plainly, this was

693
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Speaker 1: hardly a liberal darling. This isn't a partisan thing getting

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Speaker 1: pardoned by Biden. In fact, he was probably more hated

695
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Speaker 1: by liberals than conservatives, although we all hated that guy.

696
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Speaker 1: How could the motive for this clemency be anything other

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Speaker 1: than financial for Biden himself or his family or maybe

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. I mean, I know that's innuendo, and

699
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Speaker 1: I know, but honestly I can't there's no political reason

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Speaker 1: for it, And so politics and then money, What could

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Speaker 1: possibly be the motivation if it isn't financial, in some way.

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Speaker 11: It has to be at this point, there's too many

703
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Speaker 11: people on this list. What I really been looking for

704
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Speaker 11: and trying to figure out, is who gave him this list.

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Speaker 11: This list itself is fifteen hundred names, and you'd think

706
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Speaker 11: that maybe they just kind of shuffled a couple people

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Speaker 11: in it. But the more you look at it, it's

708
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Speaker 11: like every single one of these people is terrible. It

709
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Speaker 11: can't just be one or two people that he's hidden

710
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Speaker 11: in here. It's not anymore. And the kids for cash guys,

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Speaker 11: I mean, that's that's an egregious case. Obviously, so is

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Speaker 11: the Hamas members. So were the two Chinese spies. I mean,

713
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Speaker 11: one of the Chinese spies was convicted for child pornography

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Speaker 11: at forty seven thousand documents of child pornography. They claim

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Speaker 11: that's a prison swap, but from for who, No, we

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Speaker 11: don't know. The financial side of this has to be

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Speaker 11: the only answer. I mean, some of the fraudsters in

718
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Speaker 11: here were charged with billion dollar fraud schemes, not just

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Speaker 11: small groups, not just small things. I mean Paul de

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Speaker 11: Grassi here was the largest US tax fraud scheme in

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Speaker 11: US history. That's you can't just release people like that

722
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Speaker 11: and not have people look into it. To me, the

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Speaker 11: financial aspect is the most important aspect that we need

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Speaker 11: to look into, because Hunter Biden was just partned, and

725
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Speaker 11: he was partned up to a certain date. How do

726
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Speaker 11: we know that, you know, he didn't just receive a

727
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Speaker 11: bunch of these these previous people that were just released.

728
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Speaker 11: How do we know we didn't just get payoffs. We

729
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Speaker 11: have no idea and we won't know because.

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Speaker 3: He was clear. That's right, And let's make something clear.

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Speaker 1: Will the pardons can't be reversed by you know, he

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Speaker 1: was constitutional law. If there is proved to be some

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Speaker 1: kind of quid pro quo involved, then that is something

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Speaker 1: that could be prosecuted. Okay, let's keep going. You talked

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Speaker 1: about drug trafficking. What about a major human trafficker? And

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Speaker 1: that's on this list. Also, he's Edward Tito Alvarez Marquees.

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Speaker 1: Here's the right line from when he was sentenced first

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Speaker 1: back in twenty eleven.

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Speaker 3: Tell us more about him, Walter Marquez.

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Speaker 11: So they claim there's a huge list of things for

741
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Speaker 11: this guy. But this guy specifically, when you go back

742
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Speaker 11: into his documents, it's they claim that he was not

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Speaker 11: released for human trafficking. No, no, no, no, he was released

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Speaker 11: for bringing people over top of the US border for

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Speaker 11: financial game. Well that's is that not human trafficking is

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Speaker 11: that's what they're trying to claim that this guy was

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Speaker 11: released for that just he was just smuggling people across

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Speaker 11: the US border for money. I mean, that sounds like

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Speaker 11: the definition of human trafficking to me. And the best

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Speaker 11: part about these people, almost every single one of Marquez included,

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Speaker 11: is that when you go through their case of files,

752
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Speaker 11: all of their court documents, they have been requesting appeals

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Speaker 11: and similar denied. Every single one of them was denied

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Speaker 11: over and over and over again. So we're going through

755
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Speaker 11: these names, and these names are all in the court system.

756
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Speaker 11: They've been charged for heinus crimes, they've been denied their appeals,

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Speaker 11: and we're still commuting their sentences. So to the Biden administration,

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Speaker 11: it seems to me that they don't care if these

759
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Speaker 11: people have gone through the court system. The court system says, no,

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Speaker 11: they are criminals and they should stay in prison. That

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Speaker 11: is not important to them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but wait, there's more. Let's now talk about Louz

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Speaker 1: Perez Martinez. Now, she was the wife of a major

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Speaker 1: fentanyl kingpin. But she was also very actively involved in

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Speaker 1: the business yourself. And you talked about this a little

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Speaker 1: bit earlier at Walter and I want to flesh it out.

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Speaker 3: I love how the White House calls these criminals. They

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Speaker 3: were part and non violent.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what is non violent about the fentinyl crisis in

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Speaker 1: this country which is killing you know, so many people

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Speaker 1: every single day. This is not marijuana, which of course

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Speaker 1: can be lethal too, frankly, or cocaine, which certainly can

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Speaker 1: be lethal, but fentanyl which kills which really, I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 1: it seems like that's the whole point of fensio to

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Speaker 1: kill us, not necessarily to make a profit. So again,

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Speaker 1: this is another situation in the middle of a fentanyl crisis.

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Speaker 1: You let go the wife of the I mean, that's

778
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Speaker 1: how you get away. I guess if you get around,

779
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Speaker 1: you can't get the husband because he's too obvious, right,

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Speaker 1: some of these family members are also getting part in.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 11: Well, I mean, the Finnal crisis specifically is a bit

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Speaker 11: close to.

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Speaker 2: Home for me.

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Speaker 11: I'm from the Midwest and Springfield, Ohio. When when the

786
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Speaker 11: final crisis first hit Springfield, there was a I was

787
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Speaker 11: living next to a police officer and at the time,

788
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Speaker 11: he came home late that night and I saw him

789
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Speaker 11: walking up and he was very clearly distraught, and I

790
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Speaker 11: asked him what was going on. He said, seventy people

791
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Speaker 11: had just died. Seventy people had died when Finnyl hit

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Speaker 11: the streets. So when I hear anything, it was this

793
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Speaker 11: is what really kind of set me off looking at

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Speaker 11: this stuff. When I heard about this case specifically, I

795
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Speaker 11: was like, what on earth you're releasing finnel dealers. This

796
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Speaker 11: is insane. I mean, he's he's releasing people that are

797
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Speaker 11: killing Americans. And that's what anybody that touches fentanyl or

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Speaker 11: any of these other major drug people that he's released,

799
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Speaker 11: they're killing Americans. So this is not some nonviolent people.

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Speaker 11: And the claim that anything to do with drug trafficking

801
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Speaker 11: is non violent is completely ridiculous. But the Finnyl, the

802
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Speaker 11: fact that they've released anybody that's connected to that while

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Speaker 11: we're in the middle of this crisis, that is unforgivable

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Speaker 11: in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: All Right, one last one, because this was also a

806
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Speaker 3: very famous case. In fact, it was so famous.

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Speaker 1: They made some plots of movies and TV shows about it.

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Speaker 1: This was someone who was also on the list, former

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Speaker 1: doctor Mira such Davish.

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Speaker 3: Now, this was the woman who.

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Speaker 1: Notoriously diluted the potency of the cancer drugs for her

812
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: patients so that she could sell more and make more money.

813
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Speaker 1: She defrauded Medicare, but also led to probably premature deaths

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Speaker 1: of some of her patients.

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Speaker 3: It's certainly much more pain.

816
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Speaker 1: She also wouldn't even spring for new, clean needles for

817
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Speaker 1: some of them, and at least one of her patients

818
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Speaker 1: got HIV because she was reusing needles. This is the

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Speaker 1: person who Joe Biden is going to give clemency to

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Speaker 1: and commute the sentence of. Again, Walter, I can't think

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Speaker 1: of any other motive here other than finance. Has got

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Speaker 1: to be some money going into either him or a

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Speaker 1: campaign to do.

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Speaker 3: Their partner, or a commutation like this.

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Speaker 11: There must be, And you know, I looked into this

826
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Speaker 11: a bit further afterwards, and you know, I need to

827
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Speaker 11: publish an update because at this point I found out

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Speaker 11: that Biden didn't just pardon. It hasn't been given clemency

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Speaker 11: this time. It's been eight thousand names total. Throughout his presidency.

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Speaker 11: Eight thousand people have been given some form of partner

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Speaker 11: clemency throughout his throughout his entire presidency. And to me,

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Speaker 11: if this group of names that we found out about

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Speaker 11: is fifteen hundred names in here are just this bad

834
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Speaker 11: that I want to see the rest of the names,

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Speaker 11: and it's going to take a while to go through

836
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Speaker 11: them all. But if we're releasing fraudsters, drug traffickers, terrorists,

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Speaker 11: Chinese spies, this woman here, I mean, there must be

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Speaker 11: a whole host of other names in that eight thousand

839
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Speaker 11: people that included that must be have been giving payoffs.

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Speaker 11: And that's where we all need to start looking. Because

841
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Speaker 11: if it's financial, I'm sure we can find the money trail,

842
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Speaker 11: because there must be more to it, more to the

843
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Speaker 11: story than just saying well, they're nonviolent criminals. There has

844
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Speaker 11: to be more to it. Their financial aspect is the

845
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 11: biggest aspect that we all need to look into. But

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Speaker 11: I also expect that that Biden is going to pardon

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Speaker 11: it family member soon enough, because we're gonna probably look

848
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Speaker 11: into this and see that Jim, Jim Biden or someone

849
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Speaker 11: else in the Biden family has been getting payoffs this

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Speaker 11: whole time.

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Speaker 1: All right, Walter Kurt, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you

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Speaker 1: to make a deal with me. Let's keep on this story.

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Speaker 1: Let's do this every couple of days or a week

854
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Speaker 1: or so, because this has to be investigated.

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Speaker 3: This may be really the.

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Speaker 1: Biggest criminal justice scandal in the history of this country,

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Speaker 1: which is saying something. I can't do any more about

858
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Speaker 1: it right now because my blood pressure is gonna go

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Speaker 1: through the roof and I'm gonna have an amneurysm.

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Speaker 3: But Walter Kurt, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: You can catch his stuff on substack and of course

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Speaker 1: his ex feet all right, coming up, It's time for

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Speaker 1: some deep thoughts, although I don't know if they're gonna

864
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Speaker 1: be calming. David Brody and I are gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: George Stephanopoulos, So get the blood pressure meds out for me.

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Speaker 3: They'll have some insights. Stay with us.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now's the time on American Sunrise early edition when

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Speaker 1: we dance now. But seriously, it is the time that

869
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Speaker 1: David Brody from The Big Show joins us. And David

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Speaker 1: it seems like we have a media outrage story.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's between the two of us. I think,

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Speaker 3: what do we have seventy years of media experience?

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Speaker 1: But it seems like every morning we have another one

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Speaker 1: of our colleagues or a colleague network to talk about.

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Speaker 1: And this this ABC News settlement over George Stephanopolis. This,

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Speaker 1: this is a big one. I think this is a

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Speaker 1: big one. I hope there's some lessons learned. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, what's your what's your first impression of this

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Speaker 1: when you heard about it.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's definitely a marker in a historical timeline, especially

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Speaker 8: between the media and presidents. You know, you can go

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Speaker 8: roll all the way back to John Adams. I know

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Speaker 8: you and I were covering administrations back in that time,

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Speaker 8: Jake John Adams with the Alien Solution Act, where he

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Speaker 8: was in an essence, jailing on friendly editors. I mean

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Speaker 8: even Abraham Lincoln jailed or put or wanted to put

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Speaker 8: folks in jail as a relate to the Civil War

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Speaker 8: and what they were saying at the time. So look,

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Speaker 8: this this is a history. Now, having said that, that

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Speaker 8: was once one aspect to it.

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Speaker 3: This is different.

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Speaker 8: It's a lawsuit brought by the President of the United

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Speaker 8: States at the time. So look, this is bad. It's

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Speaker 8: bad for journalism, it's bad for ABC. And let's remember

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Speaker 8: ABC was in the middle of a lot of cuts

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Speaker 8: to begin with, and so now theyre edition now fifteen

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Speaker 8: million dollars for the what what's it going to be now?

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Speaker 8: The George Stephanopolos wing of the President Trump Library there,

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Speaker 8: I mean that that's what they should do. I mean,

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Speaker 8: Trump should make it the Stephanopolis wing and call it

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Speaker 8: the you know, the fake news wing. That would be

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Speaker 8: pretty funny, sponsored by ABC News.

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Speaker 1: No, that would be Actually, his presidential library should include

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Speaker 1: a video theater, a theater where you can sit in

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Speaker 1: an exhibit of all the media lies about the president

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Speaker 1: and how dangerous it is, and then get some scholar,

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Speaker 1: an honest scholar, to discuss how damaging that is.

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Speaker 3: You know, from a business standpoint.

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Speaker 1: George Stephanopolis has not provided fifteen million dollars worth of

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Speaker 1: value over his fifteen years at ABC to ABC and

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Speaker 1: Disney with owns ABC.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's just be honest.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's the most unpopular anchor, but he's

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Speaker 1: just completely vanilla that I've never heard anyone say, oh

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Speaker 1: I got to tune in to Good Morning America for

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Speaker 1: George Stephanopolis. You know, they say that about maybe Michael

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Speaker 1: Strahan or maybe something else.

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Speaker 3: But no one says, I got to see what this

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Speaker 3: guy has to say.

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Speaker 1: And again, not that he's a necessarily a negative, but

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Speaker 1: fifteen he's not worth fifteen million dollars.

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Speaker 3: And for those of you watching who work for.

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Speaker 1: Disney or ABC News, who are going to get a

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Speaker 1: ping slip in the next couple of weeks, like David

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Speaker 1: was talking about the cuts, you know, thank ask George

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Speaker 1: Defanopolis for a present or something, because he is one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons why he's one of the reasons why.

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Speaker 8: None of these anchors are worth fifteen million dollars. I

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Speaker 8: don't care if you're conservative or liberal. Why are anchors

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Speaker 8: making that much money to begin with? Seriously, and I

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Speaker 8: understand supplying to man and ratings in this okay, I

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Speaker 8: got I got the business model, But you know what,

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Speaker 8: why don't you give some teachers that are really doing

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Speaker 8: some good work.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about real, not woke.

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Speaker 8: Teachers, real good teachers a lot more money. And I

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Speaker 8: get it. I understand, uh that you know why professional

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Speaker 8: athletes get paid a whole lot more than teachers. I

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Speaker 8: understand the business model, but still it just the whole

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Speaker 8: thing is just just helter skelter. H But look as

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Speaker 8: for George Stephanopolos. Let's remember he had that interview with

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Speaker 8: Joe Biden, that one right after he had that horrible

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Speaker 8: debacle and the debate there, and if you just sift

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Speaker 8: through that interview, he technically on paper from a transcript perspective,

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Speaker 8: asked the great questions, but you could see how he

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Speaker 8: was doing it gingerly and paying deference to Joe Biden,

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Speaker 8: kind of like Joe, I hate to do this, but

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Speaker 8: I've got to ask it. I mean, there were really

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Speaker 8: no tough questions. It was just more like kiit glosleg Joe, listen,

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Speaker 8: I understand that you're you know, things have been rough,

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Speaker 8: and you know, it was kind of like a therapy

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Speaker 8: session going on, and it was it was hard to watch, honestly.

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Speaker 8: But look, there are he's liberal, but there's there's ones

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Speaker 8: that are even worse than Stephanopolis out there, for sure.

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Speaker 8: So a lot more money out there for Trump to make,

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Speaker 8: so to speak, or at least as.

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Speaker 1: There is, because apparently an anchor on MSNBC repeated the

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Speaker 1: same lie I guess last night or yesterday morning or

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Speaker 1: something like that. So you talk about not learning any

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Speaker 1: lessons real quick, what can we expect on the Big show,

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Speaker 1: American Sunrise coming up in just a few minutes.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's just a am I gonna say, the same

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Speaker 8: cast of characters.

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Speaker 3: Not true.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna have a Kate Monroe here who will dissect

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Speaker 8: some of what's going on today with Stephan Woppels and

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Speaker 8: other things, especially as it relates to the fact that

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Speaker 8: RFK on the Hill today for the first time. So

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Speaker 8: that's going to be interesting. And also we've got our

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Speaker 8: moment of Faith talking. You know, the media loves to

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Speaker 8: talk about the cult of Donald Trump. How about putting

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Speaker 8: God first before Trump. That's what Maggot does, but the

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Speaker 8: media won't tell you that story. We'll talk about it

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Speaker 8: today on the show.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: All Right, the big show is next, and thank all

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Speaker 1: of you for joining me on American Sunrise Early Edition.

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Speaker 3: Getting up a little bit early. I'm Jake Novak. I'll

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Speaker 3: see you tomorrow. Have a great day.