WEBVTT - The Mark Moss Show Feb 14, 2022

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, Welcome to another episode of the Mark Moa

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<v Speaker 1>Show where we talk about bitcoin and we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the decentralized revolution that's happening, and we talk about everything

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<v Speaker 1>that's going on around it so you can understand what

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<v Speaker 1>is going on. We look at things from the financial aspect,

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<v Speaker 1>the political aspect, the technology aspect, because you really have

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<v Speaker 1>to get about six, seven, maybe eight different disciplines to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get what's going on now. It's moving fast.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of things going on. I try to

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<v Speaker 1>bring you the best education, up to the minute, latest

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<v Speaker 1>breaking news so you can always know what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course sound like the smartest guy at the

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<v Speaker 1>party this weekend. And of course I try to bring

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<v Speaker 1>you new and interesting people to listen to on a

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<v Speaker 1>regular basis so you can get some different perspectives than

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<v Speaker 1>just from myself. Of course, I have some people that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bringing on this week that you definitely want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from. But some of the breaking news, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>things happen so fast. Um, some big stories I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go through this week are one, you've probably heard

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<v Speaker 1>that the US government seized some bitcoin. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you heard that or not. Now How did that happen? Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>Because I thought bitcoin of censorship resistant. How do the

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<v Speaker 1>government sees it? Well? I want to explain how that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to explain what the learning lesson is for

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<v Speaker 1>us in this UM And there's a lot of interesting

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<v Speaker 1>pieces in this. I want to talk about UM, the

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<v Speaker 1>largest asset manager in the world in the world is

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<v Speaker 1>now offering cryptocurrency services. I want to talk about something's

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<v Speaker 1>happening inside the government. How UM they are UM changing

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<v Speaker 1>the way they look at people that want to peacefully assemble.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to look at one of the largest commercial

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<v Speaker 1>banks in the world, actually a bank that I bank

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<v Speaker 1>with UM has said that we are about to enter

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<v Speaker 1>a hyper adoption of bitcoin. Who is that bank and

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<v Speaker 1>what are they talking about? And I want to look

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<v Speaker 1>at the price of bitcoin real quick. That's a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>ambitious schedule to cover. So let's see if we can

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<v Speaker 1>get through all of that for you. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, you're listening to the markma Show where

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about bitcoin and the decentralized revolution that's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't cover the price a whole lot UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I do typically say that I think the price is

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<v Speaker 1>the least interesting thing that's going on. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why I say it's the least interesting thing going on

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<v Speaker 1>is because, um it is. I mean, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new technology that is changing the way the

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<v Speaker 1>world works, and for the better. I mean for the better.

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<v Speaker 1>It is changing the world for the better. Anybody who

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<v Speaker 1>comes into bitcoin, it just it gives them long term perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>They start to see new solutions to old problems. Um everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen It's completely changed your lives and so and

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<v Speaker 1>and not just from a monetary standpoint. It is such

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<v Speaker 1>a new technology that's going to benefit all of humanity.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm so bullish on it. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>you have something that big, of course, the daily price

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<v Speaker 1>movement is somewhat um boring, I guess I should say.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing that I say pretty often if

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<v Speaker 1>you tune to my show on a regular basis, is

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<v Speaker 1>that when you're looking at a new technology, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to look at the price. The price is volatile.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you really want to look at is two things.

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<v Speaker 1>The one that developed, the development happening on the network,

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<v Speaker 1>and to the growth of the network or more people

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<v Speaker 1>using them. But I call the price a bait and switch.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people come in for the price, they hope to

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<v Speaker 1>make money, they hope to get rich, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>get switched into some of the other properties for bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, talking about the price today, it is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of good news if you're focused on the

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<v Speaker 1>short term price, which I am not. If you're aware

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<v Speaker 1>or you're just kind of tuning in. Bitcoin did recently

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<v Speaker 1>crashed all the way down from its high of about

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<v Speaker 1>sixty nine thousand, and it went all the way to

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<v Speaker 1>about thirty three thousand dollars, a crash of about fifty two.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't stick there long. That was just a quick

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<v Speaker 1>daily fat flash crash. Um it quickly kind of regained ground,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's sad about forty five down from its high

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<v Speaker 1>at about in the thirty five ish range. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>just over the last couple of days it has gone

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<v Speaker 1>on a tear, going from about thirty five thousand all

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<v Speaker 1>the way up to in the forty five thousand ish range.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten thousand dollar swing, which is no small swing at

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<v Speaker 1>all for a bitcoin. As a matter of fact, a

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<v Speaker 1>single day it moved up about about twelve a few

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars in a single day, and that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons why you don't want to try to trade

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin in and out of bitcoin because it does move

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<v Speaker 1>so volatile like this, and so you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>were like, I'm gonna sell at the top and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna buy back in at a lower price, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you know when it's a lower price. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>know when to buy back in? You know what happens

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<v Speaker 1>is you only know the top or the bottom when

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking backwards at it, and so when you're living

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<v Speaker 1>through it, you don't know. And what happens is let's

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<v Speaker 1>say you're on the sideline waiting for this move and

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<v Speaker 1>you were gonna buy cheaper, but then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>it moves up ten tho dollars in a single day,

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<v Speaker 1>and you missed out. Now I haven't done the math.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe at some point I will for bitcoin, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you with stocks that you know, over the

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<v Speaker 1>last day, um over the last fifty years, it's averaged

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<v Speaker 1>about an eight percent return. But if you would have

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<v Speaker 1>missed the best thirty days of trading in the stock market,

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<v Speaker 1>your returns go from eight percent to like two percent approximately.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how a date off the top of

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<v Speaker 1>my head if you missed the best um like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>days in trading, then you're basically make no money. And

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<v Speaker 1>you've missed the best like thirty days out of whatever

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years, you made no money in the stock market,

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<v Speaker 1>and so um they say in the stock market, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not timing the market, but time in the market. And

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin is kind of the same way, because if you

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<v Speaker 1>missed out on a ten thousand dollar swing day, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's really gonna hurt you. And so what I do

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<v Speaker 1>is I just zoom out. I keep a long term

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<v Speaker 1>perspective and I don't try to trade these dips. And

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<v Speaker 1>for perspective, what I do is I look at the

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<v Speaker 1>way that the low the lows have been going higher

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<v Speaker 1>and higher and higher. So for example, if I go back, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, two years ago, I can see that the

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<v Speaker 1>price of bitcoin was only twenty thousand, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>did get up to sixty five thousand a consoliday at thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>So from twenty to sixty five, but then to thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>and then from thirty to sixty nine and forty five.

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<v Speaker 1>And so instead of looking at where it came from

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<v Speaker 1>the sixty five, I look at it where it came

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<v Speaker 1>from the twenty and the thirty. So from twenty to thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty good progress for me and I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where the price. It is nice to see

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<v Speaker 1>it coming back up. Now why why is it coming

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<v Speaker 1>back up? Well, a couple of things. UM, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to understand what drives the price. That I said, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's adoption and development, So a couple of big developments

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<v Speaker 1>and adoptions things that are happening. UM. The first thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I would say is that, UM, I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit last week. If you're with me, I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the trucker convoy going on in Canada, and UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we talked about last week how um the

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<v Speaker 1>trucker convoy had raised about ten million dollars on go

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<v Speaker 1>fund me, and then go fund me basically stole the

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<v Speaker 1>money and with a massive amount of backlash that had happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we covered this last week. I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>happened yet, but the massive amount of backlash, UM go

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<v Speaker 1>fund me said all right, all right, we'll we'll return

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<v Speaker 1>the money if you would fill out this form. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to filt this form by a certain date. And

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<v Speaker 1>then a lot more backlash happened where people were saying, no,

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<v Speaker 1>just charge back your credit cards and hid them with fees.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of people probably did that.

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<v Speaker 1>So then and then, and then you had a Governor

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<v Speaker 1>Abbott from Texas and governed to Santis from Florida said

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<v Speaker 1>that they were going to um bring legal charges against

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<v Speaker 1>go fund me for stealing their residents money. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>a combination of that and the heat that go fund

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<v Speaker 1>me took, they quickly reverse courses that they would just

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and refund everybody's money. But the key piece

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<v Speaker 1>to this is that the governments of Canada trying to

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<v Speaker 1>seize the money, the state of Autawa try to seize

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<v Speaker 1>the money, and then go fund me. It did an

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<v Speaker 1>enormous amount of marketing for bitcoin. Now all these people

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<v Speaker 1>that are watching what's going on realized just how centrally

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<v Speaker 1>controlled the monetary supply is. You mean my money that

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<v Speaker 1>I have expended my own energy. I've expended my life's

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<v Speaker 1>energy for two and I stored it in this form

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<v Speaker 1>of money that I could use at a later day

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<v Speaker 1>in time. You mean I don't have a right to

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<v Speaker 1>use that money as I see fit. You mean if

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<v Speaker 1>I want to use it to give some money to

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<v Speaker 1>these peaceful pro testers to give them some gas or

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<v Speaker 1>some food or a blanket or whatever. I can't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the right to do that. And the state

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<v Speaker 1>can just seize my money. And I didn't know they

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<v Speaker 1>could do that. I didn't know they would do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and and now there's bitcoin over here. That means

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<v Speaker 1>that they can't do that. Um, maybe I should check

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<v Speaker 1>out bitcoin. And so bitcoin has been on the world stage.

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<v Speaker 1>The government of Canada the trucker protests. Go fund me

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<v Speaker 1>are doing marketing for bitcoin, which is important because go

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<v Speaker 1>fund me is a is a company and they have

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<v Speaker 1>a marketing budget. Bitcoin is not a company. There is

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<v Speaker 1>no marketing budget, there is no marketing department. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're lucky to have the country of Canada and go

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<v Speaker 1>fund me doing bitcoins marketing for us. Maybe one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons why we've seen the price pump. You're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the Markma Show. We're talking about the latest breaking

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<v Speaker 1>news that is going on right now, and I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the latest breaking news this week because each and

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<v Speaker 1>every week there is a lot going on. It's moving

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<v Speaker 1>super fast and you need to be up to date

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<v Speaker 1>on what's happening. Now. I to talk about why things

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<v Speaker 1>are happening, things like that. One interesting story that I

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<v Speaker 1>saw here today which was pretty amazing, And you maybe

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<v Speaker 1>weren't aware of this, but you know that politicians and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know people at the Central Bank that create all

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<v Speaker 1>the money, they probably have an unfair advantage of information

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<v Speaker 1>that they have. And uh, did you know that you,

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<v Speaker 1>as a private citizen, you're not allowed to invest on

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<v Speaker 1>what they call insider trading, So like, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>something like information that most people don't have and you

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<v Speaker 1>act on that and you make money with that, it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually illegal. And actually, Martha Stewart everybody's a favorite grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>working from her house or whatever, she famously went to

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<v Speaker 1>prison for doing what's called insider trading because it's highly

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<v Speaker 1>illegal for me and you to participate in that. But

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<v Speaker 1>did you know that it's not illegal for the politicians

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<v Speaker 1>to do it? Specifically not illegal. So Nancy Pelosi as

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best investors in the world today. As

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, Nancy Pelosi beat almost every single

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<v Speaker 1>hedge fund, every single fund manager except for like one

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<v Speaker 1>or two last year, and she wasn't even the top one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she was like ranked fifth or sixth in

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<v Speaker 1>that order. Um. Other politicians did even better. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just the politicians, the congressman, the senators, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>central bankers. Now, a while back, there was a story

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't really cover it much, but we found

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<v Speaker 1>out that FED officials were doing insider trading. They were

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<v Speaker 1>trading on what they call pandemic trade. So at the

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<v Speaker 1>time the pandemic was happening, UM, the entire economy crashed,

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<v Speaker 1>the stock market crashed, and then as the pandemic recovered,

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<v Speaker 1>certain stocks did better than others the pandemic trades, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was some FED insiders that traded that and made

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of money. And a matter of fact, three

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<v Speaker 1>UM FED officials I believe lost their jobs, the Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>and the Boston FED presidents as well as the vice

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<v Speaker 1>chair Clarita and Um. You know, nobody really cares. Nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>really looking into it, UM, but some people are. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people aren't okay with that. I mean, I'm not personal

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<v Speaker 1>okay with that. I mean I could go to prison

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<v Speaker 1>if I traded like Martha Stewart on information I had.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're the ones that actually make the policies and

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<v Speaker 1>pump the money into the system. But they can it

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<v Speaker 1>seems pretty messed up. I don't think people should be

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<v Speaker 1>okay with that. And so Reuters, the news organization which

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't always seek the truth in my opinion, But they

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<v Speaker 1>went out and they filed a freedom of information Act.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called a FOIA request fo I A, and they

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<v Speaker 1>did a freedom of information Act and they want UM

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<v Speaker 1>and they wanted to get information on what exactly was

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<v Speaker 1>going on here. The FED said that there's about sixty

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<v Speaker 1>pages of correspondence UM in the in these financial transactions

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<v Speaker 1>that were conducted during the pandemic that they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to release. They don't want to release. It's a sore

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<v Speaker 1>spot for the FED. They obviously know what's in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and members of Congress are demanding full transparency as to

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<v Speaker 1>who knew what was going on, who did what, when

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<v Speaker 1>did they do it, and so forth. But the problem

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<v Speaker 1>is that nobody is allowed to see them, as the

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<v Speaker 1>FED quote unquote denied in full the release of documents.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. That doesn't seem right, does it now. I

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<v Speaker 1>might be old fashioned here, but it seems like the

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<v Speaker 1>best way to build trust is with transparency, not lying

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<v Speaker 1>and deliberately hiding stuff. So if my business partner if

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a business partner, but if I did,

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<v Speaker 1>or if I had, you know, your wife, your girlfriend's

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<v Speaker 1>tegnam for the other somebody important to you. If I

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<v Speaker 1>had a business partner and I said, say, I suspected

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<v Speaker 1>them of embezzling from me, and I said, hey, partner, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, could we sit down and just look at

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<v Speaker 1>the books and talk about a couple of transactions. I

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<v Speaker 1>have curious you know, I'm curious him if he said, oh, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't. You shouldn't be looking at that and then

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<v Speaker 1>they went deleted a bunch of stuff, like, wouldn't that

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of confirm my suspicion Versus if he said, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, let's open up the books. Here you go,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh these transactions, this is what it was like. Full

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<v Speaker 1>transpar arrancy could bring trust back. So when we already

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<v Speaker 1>are unhappy that that Martha Stewart went to prison, I

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<v Speaker 1>can go to I can go to prison. But these

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<v Speaker 1>insiders are legally able to do that. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>Federal Reserve who put the money in, are able to

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<v Speaker 1>do this. And then through a Freedom of Information Act request,

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<v Speaker 1>the FED quote unquote denied in full the release of documents.

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<v Speaker 1>M hmm. That doesn't really breed a lot of trust

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<v Speaker 1>for me and confidence. Now I bring this up on

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<v Speaker 1>a bitcoin show because bitcoin is open borderless trust list.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean? Trust less? So I have to

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<v Speaker 1>trust the Federal Reserve didn't do something shady, But how

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<v Speaker 1>can I trust them when they're hiding everything from a delivery?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much money they made. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where they put that money. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>they decided how much money to Pranto were to put

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<v Speaker 1>the money. Nor do I know how they use that

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<v Speaker 1>information to enrich themselves. I don't know anything. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to trust them, but how can I trust them when

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<v Speaker 1>they're breaking me? Bitcoin is ust lists. That means I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to trust bitcoin because bitcoin is an open

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<v Speaker 1>source network one I know that unlike the FED, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>can create more Bitcoin like the FED creates more dollars too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's completely open and transparent. I can see all the

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin all the time. I don't have to trust. I

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<v Speaker 1>can verify UM and on top of that UM, because

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<v Speaker 1>I can verify all the transactions, I again, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to trust. Now they said uh, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>they denied in full but why Like traditionally, maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>might have an exemption to the Freedom of Information Act

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<v Speaker 1>the Foyer Request if it involved a matter that matter

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<v Speaker 1>of national security. But how exactly would alleged I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to say that, alleged insider trading by a bunch of millionaires,

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<v Speaker 1>how would that threaten the US democracy? Right? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I would certainly like to understand that. I bet you

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<v Speaker 1>would as well. But of course we don't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know that at all. And um, the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why I bring the story up is because it makes

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<v Speaker 1>me mad. But it's in glaring contradiction to what bitcoin is.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have you know, um of public officials like

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Warren out there saying, you know, bitcoin is used

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<v Speaker 1>by bad people, Well, they probably shouldn't use bitcoin because

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin is open, it's transparent, and we can see who

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<v Speaker 1>those bad people are, unlike the Federals are fiat money

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<v Speaker 1>system like we have today, where these people get away

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<v Speaker 1>with murder and literally enriched themselves to the tunes of

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<v Speaker 1>trillions of dollars. Now, when I talk about bad people

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<v Speaker 1>not being able to do that, it kind of brings

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<v Speaker 1>me to the next story which I wanted to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the US seized bitcoin. And they didn't just

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<v Speaker 1>seize some bitcoin. They seized a lot of bitcoin. As

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, Um, it's been making a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of news stories. It was a bit finex hack and

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<v Speaker 1>it was about four point six billion with a B

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<v Speaker 1>and that's right, four point six billion dollars of bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>that was stolen and the government seized it. But like

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<v Speaker 1>I said earlier, like Mark, what do you mean they

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<v Speaker 1>seized it? Because I thought bitcoin was censorship resistant? How

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<v Speaker 1>could they seize it? Well, let's talk about that for

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<v Speaker 1>a second, because it's it's important for you to understand

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<v Speaker 1>how they seized it, because there's a learning lesson in

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<v Speaker 1>here for you. How could you protect your money so

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<v Speaker 1>nobody could steal it? And I'm not trying to say

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<v Speaker 1>keep it from the government, but how could you keep

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<v Speaker 1>it from anybody who wanted to steal it? And so

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<v Speaker 1>the story is about this a couple who um, as

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I took this money. It was from bitfoinix.

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<v Speaker 1>So bitfoinix is a big cryptocurrency exchange and uh, apparently

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago, this couple of New York

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<v Speaker 1>couple Eelid Dutch Litzenstein and Heather are Morgan had taken

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<v Speaker 1>this money and they were attempting to launder clean up

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<v Speaker 1>some bitcoin worth a staggering four point six billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, that was stolen from bit foinex back in.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot to this story. I'm gonna unpack. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fascinating story. These are some fascinating characters. Actually, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna bring back more. I'm gonna come back more

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<v Speaker 1>in a second with that story. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>miss this. By the way, you're listening to the markmas Show.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about bitcoin, the decentralized revolution. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how the government sees bitcoin and what you need to

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<v Speaker 1>know about this so you can protect your bitcoin from

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<v Speaker 1>being stolen. Um, it's a fascinating story. I'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>with that more. Don't go away, all right, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>You were listening to the Mark Moa Show and we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about bitcoin. We're talking about the decentralized revolution that

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<v Speaker 1>is happening right now. We are witnessing now. Before the break,

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<v Speaker 1>I started talking about, um, this bit the nexs hack

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<v Speaker 1>that happened. As a matter of fact, the US government

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<v Speaker 1>seized bitcoin about four point six billion with a B

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<v Speaker 1>four point six billion dollars worth the bitcoin. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was about a hundred and ten hundred twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoins something, Yeah, about about a hundred twenty thousand bitcoins,

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<v Speaker 1>something massive like that, which uh shoots the United States

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<v Speaker 1>up there in them the countries and private people that

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<v Speaker 1>own bitcoin. As a matter of fact, they own more

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<v Speaker 1>than uh Elon Musk and Tesla. So Ellen, I'm calling

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<v Speaker 1>out calling you about right now, you should step it up.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to arrival Michael Sailor and UH micro Strategy

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<v Speaker 1>with how much bitcoin they have, So you guys need

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<v Speaker 1>to step it up as well. But the US, the

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<v Speaker 1>US owns is now a lot of bitcoin. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a super interesting story. And this couple UH,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, Lichtenstein and Heather Morgan, I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>are some interesting characters. Heather Morgan has uh has quite

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<v Speaker 1>a long history as a matter of fact. Um, they

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<v Speaker 1>actually I think we're working with bitfin x to help

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<v Speaker 1>them with some of their security. UM. I found this

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<v Speaker 1>article of Heather Morgan from two thousand nineteen, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's how to social engineer your way into anything. And

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<v Speaker 1>so she talks about her she was going to doing

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<v Speaker 1>these talks about social engineering and how it's the active

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<v Speaker 1>manipulated into someone to giving you information to take an action. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>she did it specific tritically in cybersecurity. Um she she

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<v Speaker 1>said she used it here firsthand out Heathery Morgan social

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<v Speaker 1>engineering into exclusive parties and expensive political fundraisers, infiltrated black

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<v Speaker 1>markets around the world, and build relationships with celebrities and

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<v Speaker 1>billionaire CEOs. You'll learn actionable tactics for event crashing, how

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<v Speaker 1>to cold email even the most reclusive and high level

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<v Speaker 1>people and get a response on what to do to

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<v Speaker 1>get yourself out of a jam. So she was specifically

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<v Speaker 1>good at cold email. But about the speaker, So this

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<v Speaker 1>is in her own bio. She's a seal entrepreneur, a writer,

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<v Speaker 1>and a rapper and a former economist who worked in

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<v Speaker 1>emerging markets. She specially she's an economist specialized in game

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<v Speaker 1>theory and in perfect information. Man, what a what A

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<v Speaker 1>What an interesting resume. But she was a rapper and

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<v Speaker 1>actually we have a clip of that. Let's check out

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<v Speaker 1>this clip of her. I think it's pretty cool. There

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<v Speaker 1>we go Turkish Martha start keep going up her spin

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<v Speaker 1>dropping with her poppy from a rebellious showing turk conveyed

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<v Speaker 1>with the burke showing off her inverse work. Don't she

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<v Speaker 1>come a lord? So uh, I guess her rap career

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't working out too well, so she had to go

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<v Speaker 1>to stealing bitcoin instead. Um. And now that you've heard that,

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<v Speaker 1>you can understand why she's got a pretty pretty crazy

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<v Speaker 1>profile if you go look at some of the pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of her and what she's done. But I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a couple of things to understand about this.

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<v Speaker 1>So um Again, like they said, this, this hack actually

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<v Speaker 1>happened back in twenty sixteen, and bitcoin security has come

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<v Speaker 1>a long way now since this. Now I've talked about myself,

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<v Speaker 1>I've lost, um what equate to millions of dollars of

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin today. At the time, it wasn't millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a bitcoin, but um, that's that's kind of where it

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<v Speaker 1>ended in. Just like these guys, they didn't store steal

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<v Speaker 1>four point six billion dollars, but that's what it's worth

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<v Speaker 1>today now. Um. What's interesting a couple of things. So One,

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<v Speaker 1>they stole it from bitfin x, hacked it back in sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but they weren't using a typical hot and cold or

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<v Speaker 1>set up like most exchanges used. UM. Rather, what they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing is they were they were trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>around US sanctions and so what they did is they

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<v Speaker 1>set up this kind of regulatory arbitrage. So what they

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<v Speaker 1>said is that we don't really hold the keys, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really hold your bitcoin. What we do is we

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<v Speaker 1>set up like this, this weird kind of configuration where

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<v Speaker 1>you keep a key and we keep a key. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And since we don't really hold the customer funds, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to comply. And it was because they had

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<v Speaker 1>this insecure set up, um, is what really allowed these

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<v Speaker 1>people to steal the money. Now, she was good at

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<v Speaker 1>social engineering, so she was able to compromise a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these people's information and then get their bitcoin released

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<v Speaker 1>to them using this method. So there's a UM. So

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<v Speaker 1>that that's an important thing to understand. Um. And then

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<v Speaker 1>more importantly, how did the government get it back? And

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<v Speaker 1>so UM Basically the government was able to go get

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<v Speaker 1>this four point six billion dollars worth of bitcoin him back. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>not because they could seize it. As I said, right,

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin is censorship resistant. Nobody can steal the bitcoin. The

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<v Speaker 1>only way they can steal the bitcoin is if they

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<v Speaker 1>could get your private key. So if I had some

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<v Speaker 1>gold and I went and buried it somewhere in a

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<v Speaker 1>in a in a dirt field, and I would make

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<v Speaker 1>a map, nobody could get my gold unless they got

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<v Speaker 1>my map, right, that would be like the key. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the government cannot nobody, the government or anybody

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<v Speaker 1>cannot steal your bitcoin unless they can get your private key.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what you have to secure with your life.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what they got from them. So um, they

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<v Speaker 1>put their private key, I believe into a Google doc

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<v Speaker 1>like a Google drive. You never want to put your

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<v Speaker 1>private key onto the internet. Um. There was another famous

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<v Speaker 1>massive hack by Ian Billina. He's a crypto analyst, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had put his private key into every note, which

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<v Speaker 1>I use every note. I'm actually looking at every note

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I use it all the time. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not putting my private key there. I'm not putting into

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<v Speaker 1>Google document, Google drive because if it's in the Internet somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>then it can get hacked. And so while the government

0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:12.600
<v Speaker 1>cannot hack your bitcoin, if they get your key, they can,

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 1>and they can hack your computer, so they can hack

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:19.160
<v Speaker 1>your Google drive and they could find your key there,

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.879
<v Speaker 1>So that is the big piece here. Bitcoin wasn't hacked.

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Bitcoin wasn't compromised. What happened is they compromise the person,

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 1>these people's Google Drive and found their private key. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do with your private key? It's a

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<v Speaker 1>good learning lesson. Now. One of the show sponsors that

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<v Speaker 1>we have here, Unchained Capital, They help users with managing

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:43.960
<v Speaker 1>their private key. It's someone that I actually personally used.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said earlier, off Loss which which which he quotes,

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<v Speaker 1>equates in today's dollars to about two billion dollars. Now

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 1>that's because the price of bitcoin goes up really fast.

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:56.840
<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, the government was actually bragging

0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:59.639
<v Speaker 1>about the price of bitcoin accumulating. I think I have

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<v Speaker 1>that clip up right here. Um, let's hear this quick

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<v Speaker 1>little clip from the government bragging about the price of bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 1>Here almost one hundred twenty thousand bitcoin, which at the

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<v Speaker 1>time was worth approximately seventy one million dollars. Today the

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:17.720
<v Speaker 1>value of that bitcoin has grown to over four point

0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:23.159
<v Speaker 1>five billion dollars, so they seem pretty happy about that. Um. So,

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<v Speaker 1>at the time of the hack, they stole about seventy

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:29.160
<v Speaker 1>one million worth of bitcoin and today it's worth four

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>point six billion in bitcoin. And so that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like how it was for me. I mean, I didn't

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 1>lose a couple of million dollars worth a bitcoin at

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 1>the time, but in today's dollars, if I still would

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:40.160
<v Speaker 1>have had it, which I would because I don't sell

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 1>my bitcoin, I would have millions of dollars a bitcoin

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 1>that I don't have any more. And so, UM, what

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.119
<v Speaker 1>I've done is I've used a company like Unchanged Capital

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.159
<v Speaker 1>helped me secure that key. And that's the piece that

0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:51.879
<v Speaker 1>you have to secure. So a couple of things that

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I need to tell you about that. So one, if

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you use like a hardware wallet, so for example, UM,

0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 1>you download an app on your phone and you store

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, and you put your bitcoin there. That app

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.719
<v Speaker 1>is holding your private key. If you keep your bitcoin

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>on coin base, then coin Base is holding your private key. UM.

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:11.679
<v Speaker 1>What I would recommend as a level up from that

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:15.200
<v Speaker 1>is to use a hardware wallet and then a hardware wall.

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.119
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like a little USB drive that you

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.440
<v Speaker 1>plug in your computer and then that stores your your

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 1>private key. So you plug the hardware wallet in, UM

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 1>it signs the transaction. You unplug the hardware wallet and

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 1>then your private key stays on there, it never goes

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:31.359
<v Speaker 1>onto the computer. And then you need to put a

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 1>passphrase and a pass code on that hardware wallet. So

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>even if the government or any intruder, robber, whatever were

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:43.360
<v Speaker 1>to get my hardware wallet, they still wouldn't have my key.

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 1>They would need me to give them that passphrase. Right.

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 1>So that way, if someone broke into my house and

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 1>broke into my safe, um or wherever you know, found

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:54.119
<v Speaker 1>a found something in the backyard where I had my

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:58.119
<v Speaker 1>hardware wallet buried, they still wouldn't be able to use it. Okay,

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.080
<v Speaker 1>So that's the big key. Now you do need to

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>back your key up. And this is the part that's tricky.

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:06.959
<v Speaker 1>Back that key up. And you do that by writing

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 1>down twelve or twenty four random words, and you want

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 1>to put that onto paper again, not in the computer,

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>not in every node, not in Google Drive, and it

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 1>needs to be on a piece of paper. That way,

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>if something happens to that hardware wallet, I lose it,

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 1>it gets destroyed. Whatever happens, I can restore it. I

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 1>can back it up. Now that's where you have to

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 1>hide it. Um. I can give you a couple of ideas.

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:32.479
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about that. In a second, I'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>give you a couple of good ideas of how to

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<v Speaker 1>hide that in plain sight so people could see it

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:40.399
<v Speaker 1>and not know what it is. You're listening to the

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Mark Moa Show. We're talking about bitcoin. We're talking about

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 1>the decentralized revolution. We're talking about the bit for nicks hack,

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 1>and more importantly, how to protect your bitcoin so it

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get stolen real quick. As a reminder, if you

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>haven't already, make sure to bookmark this show, this time,

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>this channel and join me each and every week where

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make it the most important, the most educational,

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe the most profitable, maybe the most entertainment. I don't know,

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:05.120
<v Speaker 1>but uh, a very important part of your week. Don't

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.880
<v Speaker 1>miss it. Put a date on your calendar and check

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:09.959
<v Speaker 1>me out each and every week on this channel. At

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>this time now, before the break, I was talking about

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:16.880
<v Speaker 1>this bit fanex hack and how um it was per

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the government bragging it was about seventy one million dollars

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>worth a bitcoin at the time they stole it, and

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 1>then it was four point five billion. Now today I

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:25.479
<v Speaker 1>was talking about the private key and how you need

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>to protect your private key. The government the government was

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>able to get their bitcoin because they got their private key.

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>They put their private key in Google Drive. So don't

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>do that, um I was talking about. You put in

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 1>a hardware wallet, and even somebody gets your hardware wallet,

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 1>they can't um get your bitcoin because they don't have

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>your passphrase. But you need to back that wallet up

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>with twelve or twenty four words, and it needs to

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>be on paper, not in the computer. But what do

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 1>you do with the paper because if someone gets your paper,

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 1>they can get your wallet. So there's a couple of

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 1>things that you could do with it. So for example,

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 1>what I've what the Winkelvoss Twins, the Wink of Boss

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Twins are the the famous partners of Mark Zuckerberg early

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>on who went on his form Jim and I, which

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>is a cryptocurrency exchange, and their bitcoin billionaires. And supposedly

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 1>what they've done is they've taken that private key, that

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>that pass phrase of those those sorry, the seed phrase,

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:18.400
<v Speaker 1>those twelve words on piece of paper, and then they

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>broke them up and I don't know if they broke

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>it into four groups of three words or twelve words independently,

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and they put them at at like safety deposit boxes

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.199
<v Speaker 1>or different locations around the country, So it would be

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>almost impossible for anyone to get all twelve words, and

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>even if they got all twelve words, they wouldn't know

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the order they went in, right. That's one way. It's

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:37.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of extreme. Could could work in other way, as

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>you could do like old school cipher kind of thing,

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>where like let's say that you wrote a poem. You

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 1>could write a poem and you have twelve words, and

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>let's say each line has one of those twelve words

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 1>somewhere in it, and you just have to know, like

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>a de cipher, you'd have to kind of know which

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>of those words it was. I've heard of people I'm

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>doing like a photo collage on their wall, and like

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>every third photo, for example, could be a depiction of

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>what that word is because the words are random. It's

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>like ocean, monkey, wrench, banana, whatever, something like that. And

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 1>so like every like every third or fourth picture in

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>the collage could be like a representative. So there's a

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>couple of interesting ways where even if somebody saw that

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>photo collage, they wouldn't know it represented your your bitcoin key,

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and even if they did, they wouldn't know which of

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>the photos it was etcetera. Like I said, you could

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>chop them up put them in different safety deposit boxes.

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>But that's your challenge. How do you protect that and

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>make it where nobody, no robber, no home robber, no

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>government could get ahold of that. Um. So that's it. Um,

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the learning lesson that we can learn from that.

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a pretty interesting story. UM go read up on

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>that on some on your own if you want. But

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>we got some more big news to talk about, and

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>uh so I don't want to spend too much time

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>on that. If you're interesting to go read more on that.

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Some other really big news that I alluded to in

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 1>the beginning is that real big news is that black Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard that name before? Black Rock? You

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>probably heard they're the world's largest asset manager. I mean

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 1>they are to kind of control of the world. I

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>mean they're literally that big. Black Rock, the world's largest

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>asset manager, is preparing to offer a cryptocurrency trading service

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 1>to its investor clients. That's big news. Why is that

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>big news? Well, it's big news for a number of reasons. Um.

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I talked about I've talked about many times, and probably

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest questions or objections I hear about

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>bitcoin is the government's just gonna make it illegal. And

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I say, well, I don't. I mean, anything is possible,

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and so I don't deal in a world of absolutes.

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>But I would say, what is the probability of that happening?

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>And if you understand the situation, you may think it's

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>a lower probability or higher probably, but nothing certain. I

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>mean better than a zero percent chance that will happen,

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:50.959
<v Speaker 1>but it's very low. And so what I would say

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 1>to that is that a couple of things. One, the

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Federal reserved the government. Between the Federal Reserving the government,

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>they printed about eight trillion dollars from thin air in

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the last twenty four months to keep the markets from acting.

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 1>If they shut down bitcoin, they would crash the markets.

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>But they don't want to crash the markets. They've just

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 1>shown us eight trillion reasons why they don't want to.

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's that's number one. Number Two, what I

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>would say is that there's this level of entrenchment that

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>has been reached um in the government that would almost

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>prevent them from doing that. So for example, um black rock,

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>so UM. If you understand how the government works. Most

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>laws and regulations they get placed that they are written

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>not by politicians, they're written by lobby groups. Then those

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>lobby groups give those to the politicians to sign and sponsor.

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>And who are these big lobby groups. Well, the pharmaceutical

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.719
<v Speaker 1>industry is a big one, obviously, food industry, and guess

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 1>guess that the financial industry, the financial street is a

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>major lobbying group. They have massive amounts of power, Wall Street, etcetera.

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Has massive amounts of power in Washington. And when you

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 1>see all these banks, you know, Fidelity, E Trade, charl

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Schwab and then smaller ones robin Hood, you know, etcetera,

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>PayPal gear in into bitcoin. They've probably spent billions, maybe

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of billions collectively to bring on bitcoin services right

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>for the regulations and to set them up in their

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.959
<v Speaker 1>office and whatever. And they don't just go spend hundreds

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>of billions of dollars to set up bitcoin services to

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>let some pesky politicians go make it illegal. That's probably

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>not going to happen. And uh, when you see the

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:26.040
<v Speaker 1>largest not just some small little robin Hood player, I'm

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>talking about the largest financial asset manager in the world, um,

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 1>black Rock. When you see them start offering it, it's

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty much game over. If you think they are going

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>to allow any politician to make it illegal. At this point,

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>you don't understand how you don't You don't understand much

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>about the financial and the political system at all. UM,

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the New York based company which manages over ten trilling

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.479
<v Speaker 1>and assets for institutions, plans to enter the cryptocurrency space

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>with a client support trading and then with their own

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>credit facility. So not only are they going to offer

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>their clients trading, but also a credit facility. So I've

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>talked a lot about UM getting your bitcoin and never

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>selling it. I'll never sell my bitcoin. What I will

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>do is I'll borrow against it. As a matter of

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>fact that I recently did borrow against them a bitcoin

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 1>for the first time. And UM they want to get

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>in on that game. They realize that people are going

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 1>to hold that bitcoin and they're going to want to

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>want to leverage that. Now, this is nothing new. I

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 1>can leverage I can. I can take loans against my stocks.

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I can do that with Wells Fargo. I can get

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>loans against my house, I can get loans against my car. Right,

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 1>so it's nothing new, but they want to jump in

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>both in the trading and also credit on for bitcoin

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>as well. It says clients would be able to borrow

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>from black Rock by pledging crypto assets as collateral. UM.

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 1>One of the people said that black Rock will allow

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 1>its clients, which include public pension schemes, endowments, and sovereign

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<v Speaker 1>wealth funds, to trade cryptocurrency through one of their networks.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, if you think that the government is going

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<v Speaker 1>to make it illegal at this point, or I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think they would be able to make get

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<v Speaker 1>illegal at this point, you don't understand how the system works.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's game over. Now. Again, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a zero percent chance of that happening, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that, but it's definitely greater than zero,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's very low a probability. It's very low probability

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<v Speaker 1>that would happen. UM. So, anyway, that's pretty interesting. And

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that, back to banks again, Wells Fargo

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<v Speaker 1>put out a report this week. UM Wells Fargo said,

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<v Speaker 1>quote crypto, like the Internet in the late nineties, nearing

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<v Speaker 1>a what they say, quote unquote hyper adoption phase. What

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean? A hyper adoption phase. That sounds uh,

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<v Speaker 1>sounds pretty fantastic. Well, the banking giant Wells Fargo, which

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<v Speaker 1>I have accounts at Wells Fargo, probably a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>you listening to they handle around one point nine trillion

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<v Speaker 1>in assets, said that crypto should be approached, should be approached,

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<v Speaker 1>people should be buying it. There's that's what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not giving you financial advice. That's what they say.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they're saying. Um. In a report from the

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<v Speaker 1>bank's Global Investment Strategy team, Wells Fargo said crypto users

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<v Speaker 1>are growing rapidly around the world. Crypto appears to be

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<v Speaker 1>near a quote hyper adoption phase end quote similar to

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<v Speaker 1>that of the Internet during the mid to late nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you remember the mid to late nineties from

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand, if you were alive back then, if not,

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<v Speaker 1>go back and study it. But it was a straight

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<v Speaker 1>parabolic run and it created a lot of wealth. They

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<v Speaker 1>went on to say, quote, we believe that cryptocurrencies are

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<v Speaker 1>viable investments today, even though they remain in the early

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<v Speaker 1>stages of their investment evolution. And so, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bank is making a recommendation to investors to approach

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<v Speaker 1>crypto investments. Tell him them to be patient. You're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the Mark Moss Show talking about bitcoin. Thanks for listening.