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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three Emmy Nomination Trends. They're here, folks, Finally

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Speaker 1: we've been waiting. I have literally nothing to say about

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Speaker 1: these fucking things, but I am Jack Miles is out

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Speaker 1: on the road today, but I'm thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: by a super producer, Becca Roma. How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Back up?

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Speaker 2: I'm great, are you, Jack?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic. I mean, I'm excited. I have my

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Speaker 1: next vacation planned based on the world's largest cruise ship,

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Speaker 1: five times larger than the Titanic, which I forget how

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Speaker 1: that one did. But no, for me, Jack, that's it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be no on this one. It is set to

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Speaker 1: make its debut in jan twenty twenty four. I believe

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Speaker 1: it's called the Icon.

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Speaker 2: We learn, you know, don't fuck with the Ocean. I just.

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Speaker 1: That does seem to be the Ocean's take on things.

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Speaker 1: As we're going to get into another story. We don't

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Speaker 1: have any more fodder for the Summer of the Shark,

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Speaker 1: but we got some fodder for the Summer of the

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Speaker 1: Sea Otter. Yeah good. I just need to like start

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Speaker 1: doing local news. I feel like just the local news

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Speaker 1: teases is like what I've discovered after thousands of these episodes,

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Speaker 1: and I think I have a gift. I think I

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Speaker 1: think my gift is local news tease. That'll be my aka.

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Speaker 1: I'm one of the local news teeth. But all right,

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Speaker 1: So this cruise ship called the Icon of the Seas

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Speaker 1: very humble. Uh it measures I don't know, Like the

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Speaker 1: measurements don't make don't read as anything to me. You know,

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Speaker 1: like one ninety eight feet what. I haven't seen a

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Speaker 1: cruise ship bigger than one thousand, one hundred feet, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't fucking know what that means.

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Speaker 2: It looks big.

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Speaker 1: It looks big as hell, all dog, This thing looks

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Speaker 1: big as hell. Dog. It is capable of carrying seven

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Speaker 1: six hundred guests. The way it really drive, the thing

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Speaker 1: that drives home to me is just like the features.

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Speaker 1: It's like so many water slides. The ship is divided

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Speaker 1: into eight primary era areas Becca, all of which I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you will be exploring. The aqua dome it's at

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Speaker 1: the top of the front of the ship. It is

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Speaker 1: the era of the orb as we recently covered, So

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Speaker 1: it makes sense that they've got an aqua doome offering

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Speaker 1: two and twenty degree views and a fifty foot waterfall.

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Speaker 1: Fifty five foot waterfall.

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Speaker 3: Like you're already at sea, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: Like you're already in the ocean. Why do you need

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Speaker 3: a fafty five foot waterfall? Like the idea of already

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Speaker 3: being in this massive ship and then on top of

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Speaker 3: the ship there is.

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Speaker 1: A waterfall that is well because the ship has too

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Speaker 1: much shit on it, so you have to see around

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Speaker 1: all the other shit to be able to see that

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Speaker 1: you're on this seat.

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Speaker 3: It's like you're trying to drown, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: Like this is too much.

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Speaker 1: I have a very like oblivious take on this. Like

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Speaker 1: my first thought was, so I've never been on a

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Speaker 1: cruise ship. I've been on lots of fishing boats to

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Speaker 1: the point that I don't like really get motion sickness.

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Speaker 1: My kids are obsessed with cruise ships from the outside,

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Speaker 1: just like you know, we had a book of like

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Speaker 1: how ships work or something like that, and they saw

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Speaker 1: a cruise ship and we're immediately in love and like

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Speaker 1: seeing it through their eyes again, I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's that is cool. That looks amazing. I want to

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Speaker 1: go on one of these, like fucking water slides on

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Speaker 1: a boat on the water. Yes, please roller coasters, give

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Speaker 1: it all to me. And as I said as before

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Speaker 1: we were started recording, I was like, and the thing

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Speaker 1: that makes me feel safe about cruise ships is like,

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Speaker 1: remember that to Concordia, like that ship captain who was

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Speaker 1: like trying to impress a woman and like was like

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Speaker 1: slaloming his fucking cruise ship through a crowded harbor and

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Speaker 1: it like turned over. It's like one of the scariest

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Speaker 1: looking images of the cruise ship on its side because

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Speaker 1: because that is like always your fear with a cruise

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Speaker 1: ship is like, well, why isn't that thing just tipping

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Speaker 1: And you know that thing tipped over and nobody died,

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Speaker 1: So I feel safe on these And I said that,

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Speaker 1: and then super Produserve Victor was like, yeah, actually thirty

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Speaker 1: two people died, all of them horribly in like a

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Speaker 1: whirlpool because there weren't enough There weren't enough lifeboats and they.

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Speaker 2: Were left in the water too.

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Speaker 3: Log Like that is terrifying a whirlpool, Like, I submit

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Speaker 3: my brain, no, no, I can't even like I'm like

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Speaker 2: I'm good, I can swim.

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to, you know, but I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: just lay and then how I'm trying to be lost

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Speaker 3: at sea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so those are the things that scare me. Like,

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Speaker 1: I know, like what when I was drinking, I would

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Speaker 1: have definitely blacked out and like fell off the back

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Speaker 1: from again. Like that would have totally happened to me.

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Speaker 1: I would just like.

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Speaker 2: Wandering, You're lost forever.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm no one home. Yeah, totally. That that scares me.

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Speaker 1: The neurovirus outbreaks which are surging on cruise ships this year,

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Speaker 1: and just like all the food poisoning and all that,

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Speaker 1: all that bad stuff scares me. And now the boat thinking,

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Speaker 1: I guess should scare me again till thirty two. I

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Speaker 1: think my brain at the time processes like only thirty two.

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Speaker 2: People on the boat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like my odds are pretty good. But yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot to recommend these. It's

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Speaker 1: just it does like appeal to your inner child. It

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Speaker 1: does also feel like there's way too many people to

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Speaker 1: be around, Like you wouldn't be alone, You wouldn't be

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Speaker 3: On the you're like in bunk beds, like you're like

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Speaker 3: shacked up with other people. I mean maybe not all

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Speaker 3: of them, but it's like there's like four little twin

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Speaker 3: beds and you're like, oh, yeah, this is a vacation.

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Speaker 2: I'm in this little twin bed on a boat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just in the barracks down below, shoveling coal

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Speaker 1: into the fire and sleeping in like communal bunk beds.

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Speaker 2: But I cut you off lists of the other crazy

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Speaker 2: shit on this boat.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the Sweet Neighborhood with a Mediterranean restaurant and

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Speaker 1: two floor sun deck, a five deck high open air

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Speaker 1: sea called Category six because you want you want to

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Speaker 2: Know, like a category five hurricane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Six fun.

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Speaker 1: There's an area dedicated to families called surf Side the

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Speaker 1: Royal Promenade with ocean views.

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Speaker 3: The Hideaway is a funny highlight because like, is it

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Speaker 3: not three sixty ocean views on a road?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Hideaway offers one hundred and eighty degree views

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Speaker 1: at the back of the ship and an infinity pool.

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Speaker 1: But uh, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun anyone trying to go on this boat.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to try and go on this boat. I think.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm going to try and do it. Like

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Speaker 1: I've promised myself like one time before. My kids are

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Speaker 1: to immediately lose me. You know, I'm going to I'm

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Speaker 1: going to take them on a cruise ship. So well,

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Speaker 1: we'll see. But speaking of the sea attacking is fighting

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Speaker 1: back against humanity. We've heard about the orc is attacking

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Speaker 1: one seems to be over hyped and bullshit. But this one.

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Speaker 1: If the story I'm about to tell you was any

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Speaker 1: other animal, the mainstream media would be in a fucking

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Speaker 1: panic right now, they would be losing their shit. So

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Speaker 1: since mid June, an otter like a seat, the one

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Speaker 1: at the end of Finding Dory the sea otters like

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Speaker 1: the most aggressive thing they do is like cutely hug

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Speaker 1: they are the puppies of the sea. Well, one of

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Speaker 1: these puppies of the sea, one of you are so

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Speaker 1: called puppies of the sea, has been attacking and terrorizing

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Speaker 1: surfers off the Santa Cruz coast line, in at least

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Speaker 3: I love how in this La Times article it says

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Speaker 3: since mid June and otter which remains nameless, as if.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to keep the identity of the otter.

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Speaker 1: I know, miss, it's like you, that is your decision. Friend.

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Speaker 1: You are the ones who name the animals, like you're

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Speaker 1: the ones who like white gladye didn't come through. White

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Speaker 1: Gladys is the orca that was attacking the yachts. White

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Speaker 1: Glads didn't come through and be like, all right, fine,

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Speaker 1: you can have my name as White gladdys y'all named her.

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Speaker 1: This otter remains nameless because you just haven't come up

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Speaker 1: with the right name to sell newspapers. But Lee said

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Speaker 1: so that this person who'd been surfing near an otter

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Speaker 1: us surfers were like, Oh, it's so cute. That's what

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Speaker 1: another otter appeared seemingly out of nowhere, which, yeah, it

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Speaker 1: didn't sneak attack you. It's just in the ocean, so

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Speaker 1: like you don't see it coming their home. You're in

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Speaker 2: They're supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: The thing came out of nowhere. What did you think

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Speaker 1: it was going to announce itself while it was on

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Speaker 1: At first we were like, look, how cute. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they added that the question mark because surfers

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Speaker 1: speak with upspeak. But then it bit down on the

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Speaker 1: what's going on?

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Speaker 3: People forget that otters are predators, like they are like

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Speaker 3: like on the.

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Speaker 1: Editors, they're not vegans.

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Speaker 2: They are not supposed to be friendly.

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Speaker 1: That's when it turned its eyes on Lee and made

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Speaker 1: a beeline for him. I was scared. I was trying

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Speaker 1: to swim away, but before I was able to get far,

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Speaker 1: it bit my leash, said, describing the tether surfers wear

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Speaker 1: I panicked, and then he like tried to flip it off,

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Speaker 1: and it just like scrambled back on because it's better

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Speaker 1: at this thing you are, this is where it lives.

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Speaker 1: It's it's good.

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Speaker 2: Like legs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but there would be an all at war on

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Speaker 1: otters if they weren't so fucking cute. I don't. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad they are so cute. I don't. I don't think

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Speaker 1: this otter deserves to be done anything. But like, given space,

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Speaker 1: there are plenty places to surf in southern California. Go

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Speaker 1: find a different location. But it does seem like we've

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Speaker 1: we've pissed the ocean gods off. Becca. I think that

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