1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario, So today's guest is probably one 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: of the coolest dudes I've had. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: The opportunity to hang out with. He just oozes cool. 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: I feel like when he's not even trying to be cool, 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: there he is being cool again. Milo Mannheim joins me today, 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: who is best known for his starring role as Zed 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: in Disney's hit movie musical franchise as Zombies, which just 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: wrapped production on its fourth installments. He also stars as 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: Wally in the smashit series School Spirits, which just releaates 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: his second season. The series is now on Netflix, where 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: it's sat in the top ten for multiple weeks, and 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: a third season is on the way. No surprise there, 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: it was such a beloved show. And because he's not 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: busy enough, he's making his off Broadway debut starring as 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: Seymour in Little Shop of Horrors, which is receiving rave reviews. 17 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: Is it safe to say that everything Milo touches turns 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: to gold? 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so. 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: He is such a brilliantly talented artist but also a 21 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: really good human And today we are celebrating the work 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: that you love, but we're also getting to know a 23 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: deeper side to an artist that so many have been 24 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: schering on for quite some time now. So let's see 25 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: if we can get Milo to say something that he 26 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: has never said before. 27 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: Milom, my man, how you doing today. 28 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: I'm great. Thank you for having me. I'm excited to 29 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: be here. 30 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: Oh I'm psyched to have you. And welcome to New York. 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: I mean, you've been here for a minute now, but 32 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: this is your poem for now? 33 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: Yeah it is. I mean I went to NYU for 34 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: one year, but I really didn't get to explore as 35 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: much as I wanted to. It was a pretty rigorous schedule. 36 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: And now I'm working. I'm staying in like Midtown, so 37 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: I'm really in the heart of it all and I'm 38 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: loving it. It's life. Life is living. 39 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: Out here, all right. I like that. 40 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: Well, I'm an East Coast guy, so I've been in 41 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: New York for a while now, so I always like 42 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,279 Speaker 1: to welcome a new friend to the city. 43 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: So welcome, thank you. I feel welcome. I just added 44 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: a friend to my arsenal. 45 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: There we go, there, we go. 46 00:01:59,200 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: There. 47 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: We're going to town from New Jersey friends, so we're 48 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: some of the best kind because we got your back. 49 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. See, I'm a Jew, so I'm sure 50 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: we get like the Italians and Jews getting mixed up 51 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: all the time. 52 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we're family. We're totally family. 53 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: Honorary baby. 54 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: Oh I love it. I love you already. Well, I'm 55 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: so happy you're here. Thanks for joining the show. You're 56 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: here for a very good reason in New York. And 57 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: of course you're starring off Broadway in Little Shop of Horrors, 58 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: which is so much fun and such an iconic show. 59 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: Do you actually have a show tonight? 60 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: I do have a show tonight, and in fact, me 61 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: and Liz have an interview together, so she's waiting in 62 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: the lobby right now and she'll come up here whatever 63 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: this is done. But yeah, that's been something to learn, 64 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: is how to really take care of yourself and be responsible. 65 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: I mean, in film it's a lot different than in theater. 66 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: And I feel like when I'm on stage, I'm having 67 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: like the best time and i feel like I'm not working. 68 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: And then when I'm off stage the work really begins 69 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: and I'm trying to be responsible. It's not working out 70 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: very well. Yeah. 71 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I was gonna say, how are you here, 72 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: like kicking it with me, and then you're gonna go 73 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: see Liz and do something and then go on stage 74 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: like half hour later. Like that's normal for you. You 75 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: don't need to be in like silence for two hours prepping, 76 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: you know, for. 77 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: The first time in my career, I'm really like valuing 78 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: alone time and not doing anything. I always tell my team, 79 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: and I feel like people know this about me. I 80 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 3: relax by doing stuff Like when I'm just sitting alone 81 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: in my room, I kind of spiral and just like 82 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: my thoughts take over and I'm like I need work 83 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: or something. But it's so nice to be in the 84 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: flow of things here. That's what's so beautiful about theater. 85 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: A great thing about film is that it's new every day, 86 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: and you know you're shooting a scene and then when 87 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: it's done, it's done. But here we've gotten into such 88 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: a good groove. So I think I've gotten over, you know, 89 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: some of the anxiety about that, and I feel like 90 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: I'm in the groove now and sometimes doing these things 91 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: really wake me up. Good for my voice, I guess 92 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: when I haven't been talking all day, a little bit 93 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: of talking, but I don't know. Every day is different. 94 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: I wake up feeling so different every day, but I'm 95 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: feeling happy to be here right now. 96 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: Oh well, that's awesome. 97 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, we know your work in film and television 98 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: and we're going to celebrate that in a bit. But 99 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: let's talk about Seymour. I mean, such an iconic character. 100 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: What made you be like, Yeah, I want to play 101 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: that character. Let's go, let's rock. I'm moving to New 102 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: York to do it. 103 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: Well, the number one thing was to be able to 104 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: work with Michael Mayer, who's directing the show, and you know, 105 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: I've loved him my whole life. And first of all, 106 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 3: I saw this show like five or six years ago 107 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: with Jonathan Groff, and I went to it because you know, 108 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: my mom had got us tickets and I was, you know, 109 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: of course excited, But I left that theater like wow. 110 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: I did not give this show nearly the credit it deserved. 111 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: It's such a brilliant show and this production is so 112 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 3: well done and it's so fun. It's like being shot 113 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: out of a cannon from beginning to end. And yeah, 114 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: just to know that I could have been a part 115 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: of that in any way was crazy. In fact, when 116 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 3: I got the audition or not the audition the offer. 117 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: I thought it was for the dentist, and I did 118 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: not know that they had se me in that Seymour 119 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: role in their heads. And then when I found that 120 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: that's what it was, I was so game. And it's interesting, 121 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: you know, bringing your own spin to it. That's the 122 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: beauty of this production. Everybody does it so differently. 123 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure. 124 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: And you and Liz Gillies, you guys take people on 125 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: a journey, and I imagine there's a lot of trusts 126 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: you have to put into your co star in this 127 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: type of show and in these types of roles. So 128 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: what was the moment where you knew you could lean 129 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: on her and you could trust her, Like, was there 130 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: something that happened where you were like, Okay, we got 131 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: each other. 132 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: That's a great question. First and foremost, I was a 133 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: little bit I don't want to stay scared intimidated by Liz. 134 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 3: I mean, she's a powerhouse of a person, of an actress, 135 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 3: of a singer. I was so excited to be working 136 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: with her, and I really didn't know much about who 137 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: she was as a person, and I got sick the 138 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: first week, so I missed the first week of rehearsals, 139 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: which killed me, but she reached out to me and she, 140 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: you know, we had a really long face time we 141 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: went through the whole show, and I was like, Wow, 142 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: he's such a sweet, kind person, obviously incredibly talented. But 143 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 3: I think that's what I realized. We kind of had 144 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: the same vision for how we wanted to do this. 145 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: The show is very over the top and heightened, and 146 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: a great note Michael Mary gave me was this isn't real, 147 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: but it's true. You know, none of these things that 148 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: are happening are real. The plant is freaking talking. You know, 149 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff is over the top, but 150 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 3: underneath all of it is truth. And after that FaceTime 151 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: with Liz, I realized we both really valued bringing a 152 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: grounded aspect to the show through all the chaos, and 153 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: as we've been doing it more and more, we've just 154 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: found magical moments together. And Yeah, I really am so 155 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 3: grateful that she's so collaborative and that we had the 156 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 3: same sort of idea of how we wanted it to present. 157 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: It's always nice when you get to work with someone 158 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: you actually really enjoy, right, my god. 159 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: And I mean I think she's fantastic just watching her, 160 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 3: watching the things that I've seen her in, but getting 161 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: to know her is even better. I mean, and now 162 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: we have such a good relationship. We've been doing it 163 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: for over a month now, and it's great if I 164 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: you know, I have a friend in New York in 165 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: her right now always, which is great. And there's something 166 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: about just being on the journey together. I mean that 167 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: you experience with all castmates of things that you do, 168 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: but nobody truly understands what it is other than the 169 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: people in the cast doing it together, and the people 170 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: are part of the production, so we really get to, 171 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: you know, talk about those things. Not that there's many 172 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: problems with the show at all, but if we are 173 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: feeling things within ourselves, we can talk it out and 174 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: have an intelligent person on the other side to tell 175 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: us what is just in our head and what's real. 176 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: And it's also really refreshing to know someone like her. 177 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: She gets stressed out before shows too, and she's worried 178 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: about her voice, and I'm like, ah, okay, you're so 179 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: fantastic and you're feeling this way, then maybe I'm feeling 180 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 3: this way. You know, it's normal, and it's not true 181 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: because I don't think that when she feels that way, 182 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: it's it's correct. I think it's just those things in 183 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: our head, you know, they get to us. 184 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's nice to have a reminder that someone 185 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: else is feeling it and going through it at the same. 186 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: Time as you. 187 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: I think we always forget that whatever the feeling is, 188 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: but it's like, oh no, that person feels the same way. 189 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: I take it. 190 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: You two have some fun too on that stage and backstage. 191 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: What's the quirkiest thing you guys do when you're between 192 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: scenes or backstage? 193 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: You know, it's usually like before or after the show, 194 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: because I feel like once the show starts, we're like 195 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: so locked in. There are a few moments, but we're 196 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: just chilling backstage together. And when it started, we were 197 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: talking about the show and we're like about to get 198 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: ready for this thing. Like the one part I think 199 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: about is when the Dentist is singing the Dentist song. 200 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: That's like two or three minutes that we're just chilling 201 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: backstage together. And it started with you know, those anxieties 202 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: and great things that we're looking forward to, and now 203 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: it was just like what did you do today? Like, 204 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: how was the trip? And it's nice to know that 205 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: we finally like settled in. But I don't know. I mean, 206 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 3: the the rest of the cast is very quirky, and 207 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: me and Liz kind of were in the same boat 208 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: when we started, and we we wanted to feel the 209 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: environment and we wanted to make sure that, you know, 210 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: the vibe we were bringing made sense. But like opening night, 211 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 3: because everybody else had done it so many times, they 212 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: were already in that you know, goofy thing. A lot 213 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 3: of the times. I don't know if I should be 214 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 3: saying this, but we're singing random stuff that sounds good, 215 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: like with the music on stage. But like there's one 216 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: part where it's a tradition now, I guess during the 217 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: like opening part of the second act, there's a part 218 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: where everybody goes Shaka Khan and they sing the they 219 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: sing the name Shaka Khan, and I was like, I 220 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: don't know how this started, but I'm not questioning it 221 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: and I'm going to join in. But I guess that's 222 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: a little tidbit and fun information about the show. 223 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. 224 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: Now people are going to be showing up looking for 225 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: that moment that's that's so awesome. Do you do you 226 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, you've done so much TV, don't 227 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: You've done film? Obviously, you've done a lot of stage work. 228 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: But at this point do you get stage fright? Like 229 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: do you feel that before you go on or it's 230 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: just smooth saleing every night? 231 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: One percent I get stage fright. There are some nights 232 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: when I don't, and I'm very grateful for it, and 233 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: I make it clear to everybody. I'm like, I'm not nervous. 234 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: I'm not nervous, like we're gonna kill the show. But 235 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: at first I thought the stage fright was because I 236 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: was not prepared, and that's not true, because I do 237 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: so much preparation and take it very seriously. And that's 238 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 3: where the stage fright comes from, is that I care 239 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: so deeply. You know, we we got it, We got 240 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: the show in our pockets. We if something goes wrong, 241 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: which it rarely does, we have the tools to be 242 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: able to fix it. That's the beautiful thing about live theater. 243 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: But I just care. You know, every audience that comes in, 244 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: you can hear them murmuring before the show, and I 245 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 3: think it would be weird not to have some nerves 246 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: and excitement, because that would mean that you're not, you know, 247 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 3: doing the show for this audience. So it's not debilitating 248 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: stage fright, but it's you know, it's definitely a feeling 249 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: that's there. It's those butterflies for sure. I think the 250 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: time I don't get that is when we're doing something 251 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: on film that we've already done like ten hours of 252 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: and it's like, all right, we got one in the bag, 253 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: let's just have fun. 254 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: So interesting to hear an artists talk about the different 255 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: mediums and how they feel and react to being on 256 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: those types of sets, because they are also very different. 257 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: I think what's so cool is when you do something 258 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: like this, I imagine you learn a lot about yourself. Right, 259 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: So is there something you've learned about yourself or a 260 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: way you've changed through doing this role, through being in 261 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: New York, through being a part of this production that 262 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: you can think. 263 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 3: Of totally A couple things. I think when it comes 264 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: to just like life, I'm realizing how much I value routine. 265 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: I have add and I think that sometimes in film 266 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: it's so you know, different every day, You're waking up 267 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: at a different time every day, and I didn't realize 268 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: how much that actually can throw me off. And here 269 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: having your schedule, you know, be pretty much the same 270 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: every day. You get into a rhythm that makes life 271 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: easier in general. And I thought that maybe, you know, 272 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: getting a cup of coffee with a friend before a 273 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: show would stress me out because I'm like, I need 274 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: to be resting my vocal cords right now. But it's 275 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 3: like the more you give life, the more you get 276 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 3: from it, I guess, is what I'm realizing over here. 277 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: And that's what I love so much about New York 278 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: is it's impossible not to be living life. In LA 279 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 3: It's you really got to plan your days and it's 280 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 3: easy to miss one and just spend it at home. 281 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: But here you just walk outside and stuff is happening. 282 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 3: What I've learned as an actor on this stage is, 283 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: you know, I think it's really a great thing when 284 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: you want to improve and you want to be better, 285 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: and you know, every day get better and progress. But 286 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: I don't think it's necessarily good when it becomes debilitating 287 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: and you tell yourself you're not good. You know, I 288 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 3: am here for a reason, and I got to remind 289 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: myself that sometimes. And this is another one of the 290 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: things that I talk about with Liz all the time. 291 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: Is like, what of these things that we're thinking about 292 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 3: are true and we can work on, and what are 293 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 3: we like we've got this one hundred percent. We just 294 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 3: like don't feel that way, you know. So I think 295 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: there's a Feelings can be indicators of things, you know, 296 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: really happening that need to change, or things that are 297 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: going great, but they can also just be random, floating 298 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: thoughts that have no purpose. And I think doing this 299 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 3: show has helped me identify which ones to care about 300 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: and which ones not to care about. 301 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: Oh that must be so refreshing. I mean, I know 302 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: we're all works in progress, so I'm sure some days 303 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: are easier than others. With all of that being said, 304 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: but it feels like, I don't know, being here in 305 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: New York and being a part of this production maybe 306 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: has lessons any anxieties that you have and things like 307 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: that totally. 308 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 3: And I don't want to like give a spoiler to 309 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: the end of the show. I thought of multiple things 310 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 3: that I've never said before for but one of those 311 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: things was just like, I have anxiety. I have pretty 312 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: bad anxiety. And I feel like in this world, especially 313 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 3: in this industry, you're always putting out the good parts 314 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 3: of yourself. I'm a very go lucky, happy guy, very 315 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 3: positive and very grateful. However, you know, we all got 316 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 3: our problems, we all got our things that we overthink, 317 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: and I think it's unfair to not, you know, at 318 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: least be open that those exist. I think it can 319 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: be dangerous when you're just seeing all the perfect stuff, 320 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: you know, So I that was one of the things. 321 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: I have, multiple of things that never said before, But 322 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: I think it's important just to let people know, like 323 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: we all have those anxieties, you know. I think any 324 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: good artist or any good you know, in whatever job, 325 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: is conscious about the work they're doing, you know, and 326 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: you just want to think about it positively and forward 327 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: rather than something that gets you stagnant in your head. 328 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: For sure, and anxiety can be so crippling, right, So 329 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: it's like learning how to work around that totally. 330 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: The audience here are so loving, though, and you know, 331 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: I've been you know, social media is such a weird 332 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: place because I feel like a lot of people say 333 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: things they don't even really believe online and here it's 334 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: like all these people bought tickets. They're coming here because 335 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: they want to see the show, they want to love it, 336 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: And I sometimes you think the audience is like a 337 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: comment section, you know, and they're going to judge you 338 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: that harshly. But that's not the case. You know. It's 339 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: so loving here, and it kind of goes with the 340 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: rhythm of New York, like it's easy here to put 341 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: life outward and you know, perform for the audience and 342 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: spread it this way rather than always looking inward. And 343 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: I think there's you know, good parts about that as well. 344 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: Go through a lot of therapy, a lot of looking inward, 345 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: but it's just nice to it's honestly, in such a 346 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 3: chaotic city, it's very relaxing somehow, you know. 347 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I feel that. 348 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: I feel that deeply, and I'm very much like you, 349 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: where I'm always thinking about what I want to do next. 350 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: Mine spins and it's hard to turn it off, and 351 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: I feel like here being in that environment, I don't know, 352 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: it's soothing in a weird way. 353 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: So I feel you. 354 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 3: And my friends here. I have a lot of my 355 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: friends from the show's school spirits here, and whenever we 356 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: get together, we always have the best conversation and it's 357 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: always forward and it's always something I've never really thought 358 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: deeply about, and it unlocks a whole new, you know, 359 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: sector of my brain. So I don't know, I just 360 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: the fluidity of New York and the lack of fear 361 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: to be yourself is something I really value here. 362 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. 363 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: Oh I love hearing that because I love the city 364 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: so much, so I love when other people feel the 365 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: same way. And you bring up school spirits renewed for 366 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: season three. I know, congratulations, very very well deserved. I 367 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: know the writers are amazing and the writing room takes 368 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: care of it all, but like, let's play for a minute. 369 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: What would be. 370 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: One dream storyline? 371 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: If you could pick anything out of the hat and 372 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: say that's my dream, what would be? 373 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 3: Okay? Well, this is what I found on the second 374 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: season is that I really enjoy doing scenes with the 375 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: living kids, even though you know we're dead. There's just 376 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 3: a really like fun dynamic that happens there. But you know, 377 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: the thing is like I would if we're gonna play, 378 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 3: I'm down to play and we'll go crazy. But the 379 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 3: thing that I love so much about the show is 380 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 3: it's such a wild concept that they do in such 381 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 3: a real way, Like there's nothing there's so many creative things, 382 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: and none of them feel like absurd and like they're 383 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: betraying the show, you know, And I think this season 384 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: they're really gonna get into playing about like what this 385 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: world is, like why this is happening, and I'm curious 386 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 3: to see what they come up with. But in my 387 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 3: wildest dreams, this is what I would want. Honestly, I'm 388 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 3: so jealous of the actors that get to play two 389 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: people when their body gets like inhabited by some other soul. 390 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 3: But I won't be able to do that because I'm 391 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: dead and I don't really have a body. I am 392 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: the spirit, and I don't know how it would be 393 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: possible for, you know, another character to hop into Wally's 394 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: body where I could portray one of the other actors 395 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 3: or their characters. But that would be something really fun 396 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: to do, maybe on another show or something else. But 397 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: you know, it also would be really interesting to see 398 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: another actor try to portray Wally through their character. I 399 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 3: don't know if we're seeing that this season. I have 400 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 3: no idea what's happening this season, but I did have 401 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: a quick call with them and it sounds like they're 402 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: really getting into the adventure of solving this world. So 403 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: we'll see about that. 404 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: Oh, Okay, we can't wait for that. That should be awesome. 405 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: And the cast is amazing. Peyton List, you know, she's wonderful. 406 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: You seem to surround yourself with these talented, brilliant women 407 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: that you work with and all these different projects. 408 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get really lucky. Everybody is a incredibly talented 409 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: be so different at the way that they approach life, 410 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: acting and see all great people. And I have a 411 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: basically entire female team as well, like my manager is 412 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: that whole team. And I've grew up a single child 413 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 3: with a single mother or an only child rather, so 414 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 3: you know, having amazing, powerful women in my life is 415 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: a running theme, and I hope it keeps running. 416 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: Are you someone that when a season comes out of 417 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: a show, or you know, reviews come out for your 418 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: off Broadway production or your movies come out, are you 419 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: like all up in the reddit threads and blogs checking 420 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: things out secretly or you do let it go? 421 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 3: Great question. I am learning things as I go, And 422 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 3: something that I'm grateful that I've never really done is 423 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: read like critics reviews, whether they're good or bad. But 424 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 3: I do a lot of the times, like in the 425 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 3: group chat of school spirits, somebody will send a reddit 426 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: theory that was like correct or something really cool that 427 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: might be upcoming, and then I can't help go down 428 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 3: that rabbit hole. I'm here for the love, Like why 429 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: would I ever listen to a hater? You know what 430 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: I mean? Like, if you don't enjoy it, then don't 431 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: watch it, you know, or don't. I think it's so 432 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 3: weird that we comment on things that we don't like, 433 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 3: like why would you put that in your own life? 434 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 3: And I understand if the show's not for you, but like, 435 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 3: why would you waste your own energy on that? But 436 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: when it comes to the love and people getting into it, 437 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 3: I'm all about that. I'm deep in the reddit thread 438 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 3: all the time. I've mentioned it in many interviews that 439 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 3: the reddit thread for school Spirits is awesome. And also, 440 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 3: just like tiktoks, I think that like the seeing the 441 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: edits that people put together, they're really creative. They put 442 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 3: they'll do like a song from one time that you 443 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: would never think would go with this, and it just works. 444 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 3: And I feel like a lot of these TikTok editors 445 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 3: are going to become successful filmmakers eventually. 446 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah, no, I could totally see that and that's 447 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: what's so cool about a lot of the work that 448 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: you do. It's the fans are so passionate and the 449 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: work resonates in such a big way that people get 450 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: so invested there, all up in the Reddit threads and 451 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: writing things online and tiktoking and all of it. I mean, 452 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 1: even for Zombies, the franchise that you've been a part of, 453 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, the fourth movies coming out, I imagine that 454 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: holds a really special place in your heart too. 455 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 3: You know, with every project I do, there's always a 456 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 3: moment or a few moments where I look back on 457 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 3: Zombies because Zombies started this all for me. I don't 458 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 3: know if I'd be here if it weren't for Zombies. 459 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: And not only Zombies won, but I just had such 460 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: an incredible experience making Zombies four as well as a producer, 461 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: which was a completely new thing. But I'm seriously so 462 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 3: grateful for all these experiences, and they've all been generally amazing. Like, 463 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: if there's ever a problem, it's because I'm like homesick 464 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 3: being far away, but you learn something about yourself Ben 465 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 3: as well. I think that it's really all about reframing 466 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: and trying to get the good out of everything, but 467 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 3: everything's been so different, you know, and going back to 468 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 3: seeing stuff online and whatnot. The thing that is awesome 469 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: and also sucks is when somebody mentioned something that you 470 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: weren't really thinking about while you were shooting it, and 471 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 3: you're like, oh, that's such a great point. I wish 472 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: that I was like leaning into that or whatever, or 473 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 3: maybe they wouldn't have even caught it if I was 474 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 3: thinking so hard on that. It's an interesting dynamic to 475 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 3: see what people pick up versus what you intended to 476 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 3: put down. Sometimes it's exactly what you wanted them to get. 477 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's something completely different. But yeah, uh back to zombies, 478 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 3: I mean it's it started it all for me. Hopefully 479 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 3: I will always have this great relationship with Disney, and 480 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 3: I will always be grateful for Zed. I mean, he's 481 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 3: a homie and great person, so yeah, dead person. 482 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 2: Rather yeah, yeah. 483 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are hoping for a fifth, sixth, seventh, 484 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: eighth film all of it. 485 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 3: Well so too, and you know what, to be honest, 486 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: like I used to get really frustrated when it felt 487 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 3: like franchises or shows we're trying to squeeze too much 488 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 3: out of it, or like elongate something. But we've created 489 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 3: a universe with Zombies where the creativity can just flow forever, 490 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 3: and it's it's such an absurd concept, but it works 491 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 3: and we can keep going. And we have this great 492 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 3: new group of kids in Zombies four where we are 493 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 3: kind of passing the torch to them and hopefully they 494 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 3: can you know, take the ball and run with it. 495 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 3: And I hope to be involved with that franchise for 496 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 3: as long as it goes, hopefully producing them as we go, 497 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: maybe even directing one one day. I know it's a 498 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 3: behemoth of a thing to direct a musical movie like that, 499 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 3: but I'm picking up the pieces and learning how to 500 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: do it as they go. 501 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, something tells me Europe for the challenge, and I 502 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: think you would definitely succeed in sore and doing something 503 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: like that. 504 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 2: But you know what's really cool about you. 505 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: A lot of people who come from the Disney world 506 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: and the Disney background, you know, kind of have a 507 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: complicated relationship or sometimes a transition into adulthood might be 508 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: a journey that's a little harder to navigate, but it 509 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: seems like for you it's all been pretty seamless. 510 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: Thank you for saying that. That was something I really 511 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 3: connected with liz On as well, Like I don't know why, 512 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 3: I didn't have any preconceived ideas about her relationship with Nick, 513 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 3: but I am. I have a uniquely great relationship with Disney. 514 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: I love them and talking with her. She has such 515 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 3: fond memories of her time on Victorious as well, and 516 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 3: you know, we were in such different times. But to 517 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 3: hear her speak about it as lovingly as I, you know, 518 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: feel about zombies is so refreshing. And I also think 519 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: that it's just this time that makes it a lot easier. Beforehand, 520 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: I think it was just a little bit harder to 521 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 3: do all these different things, you know, and now, I 522 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: mean so many things in my career I never expected 523 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 3: and I've hits. I've checked so many boxes of different 524 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 3: types of stuff I've done, like a movie about Jesus 525 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: that was a musical. I also did all horror movie 526 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: with Eli. 527 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 2: Roth, like what's up Thanksgiving? 528 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe shout out, by the way, hold on, I 529 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: have something cool to show you. 530 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: Let me see. 531 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: I just got the Thanksgiving soundtrack on vinyl, which I 532 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 3: just think is the weirdest, coolest. 533 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: Thing that is sick. 534 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 3: I know the fact that they made that is Eli 535 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 3: Roth really gets into his stuff like he is just 536 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 3: he has been living Thanksgiving ever since it came out. 537 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: And hopefully, you know, we do a second one on that. 538 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 3: I'm glad I'm not dead from the first one, so 539 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: hopefully I come back. 540 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: I think when something is such a pivotal and life 541 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: changing thing for your career that it's always nice when 542 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: you can revisit it with fond memories and grow that 543 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: relationship to your point, maybe in a director role, maybe 544 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: in a producer role. 545 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: So that's really cool to see. 546 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: I think you'll be doing a lots more and in 547 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: all verticals, you know, in your career. 548 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 3: Thank you man. I hope so. And like you said, 549 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: those things are big, you know, they can really launch 550 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: you in a direction, and I'm it's you know if 551 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 3: that's if it launches you in a direction you don't 552 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 3: want to go. I totally understand how it could be 553 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: frustrating for people, but luckily it I never really expected 554 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: to have such a musical career, honestly, and I feel 555 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 3: like I have one because of Zombies. 556 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's so many talented people come out 557 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: of that that kind of Disney class and family and I'm. 558 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 2: Trying to think, was Sabrina Carpenter in your class? 559 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we met like at events through Disney, 560 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 3: and we've become much closer just through other things as well. 561 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: But I always think about Disney sort of like a 562 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 3: high school, Like you come in as a freshman and 563 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 3: you have the seniors there. And I remember, like when 564 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: Gary Marsh was leaving, he had a couple of us 565 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 3: come in or it wasn't him, We surprised him during 566 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: a meeting just to say how grateful we were for him. 567 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: And it was me, Dove, Cameron, Raven Simone, and Ashley Tisdale, 568 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: And I remember and like Duve I was even old, 569 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 3: like older than I was, and I would consider her 570 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: a senior to my freshman. But I remember sitting there 571 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 3: like with Dove and we were, you know, closer at 572 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 3: that time, and I'm like, oh my god, like that's 573 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 3: Raven and Ashley and we're just here as like just 574 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 3: four Disney kids, you know, thanking this guy that made 575 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 3: it all happen. And that was one of those moments 576 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 3: where I was like, I'm so grateful that they're all, 577 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 3: you know, so warm and loving and truly I I 578 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe it's a testament to Disney, maybe it's 579 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 3: a testament to who I want to surround myself with. 580 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: But I really look back on everybody there being super 581 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,239 Speaker 3: warm and you know, similar to me and Liz right 582 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 3: now on this show, similar to Dancing with the Stars, 583 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: we're all on the same boat and it's a really 584 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: weird boat to be in. So I think just having 585 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 3: that you know, mutual understanding sets you off on a 586 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: good foot. And you know, there's lots of mentors there, 587 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 3: and I hope to be a great mentor for the 588 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: incoming freshman's. I feel like I've graduated, but I'm still there. 589 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 3: So you know, all these new kids before, I think 590 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 3: that they were grateful to have Meg and I and 591 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: Chandler and Kylie as well. But we love taking on 592 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: that role. 593 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: I think it's cool that you all have each other's 594 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: backs and you all seem to meet in different ways. Again, 595 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: like you doing the feather you know video with Sabrina Carpenter. 596 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: It must have been a really fun moment for you 597 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: to be like, oh cool, like she's asking me to 598 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: be in this epic video. 599 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: That happened so whimsically, by the way, like she asked 600 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 3: me the day before or like, I don't know, less 601 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 3: than a few days and I happen to be here 602 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: and it was It's so fun for the fans to 603 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 3: see that, especially when like me and Sabrina were never 604 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 3: on the same show, Me and Liz obviously were never 605 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 3: on the same show. And I think it just gets 606 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: people really excited. But it's also so cool for us, 607 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: you know, like we think about that too, and it's 608 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 3: just like, you know, always such a great pairing. I mean, 609 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: everybody that I've worked with, you know, from Disney outside 610 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: of Zombies is so great. I just saw Karen Brar 611 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: today at some event right now, and we just like 612 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 3: connected on our our time back then and what we've 613 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: been up to now, and it's great. Yeah, all love, 614 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: all love. 615 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: We like that. 616 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: Well, Milo, I could talk to you for literally five 617 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: more hours, but you got a show to get to tonight, 618 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: so I'm going to wrap this up. And the last 619 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: question I want to ask you is based off the 620 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: title of my show, which is I've never said this before, 621 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: And it was born from this idea of giving people 622 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: the space to talk about things they don't always get 623 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: the chance to talk about in quick SoundBite interviews. So 624 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm wondering, is there anything you can think of today 625 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: that you've never said before that you want to share? 626 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: You know? I keep thinking of two and one is 627 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: more serious and one is more just like a fun fact, 628 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: and I feel like we kind of covered it. But 629 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: I've never said this before, but I do have anxiety, 630 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 3: you know, and that's something that I think is important 631 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 3: to share. And we've talked more in depth about that. 632 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 3: But I just think it's fair to know that we all, 633 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: you know, go through these things and we're not just 634 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 3: who we present ourselves as. But the other thing that 635 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: I think is very important to know about me, I've 636 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: never said this before, but I'm an extremely sentimental person. 637 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 3: I collect. I'm an avid collector of things. I have 638 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 3: multiple collections from places I've been to. I've collected like 639 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 3: I'll collect like magnets or like little souvenirs of those places, 640 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 3: a shot glass that I think was interesting. I have 641 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: like a cologne collection. I know, it's kind of like 642 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 3: bougie of me to say. I also have a collection 643 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 3: of tattoos of projects that I've done. I have like 644 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 3: a little charm bracelet on my ankle. I have one 645 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 3: for zombies, I have one for Dancing with the Stars. 646 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: I have one for school spirits. I believe all of 647 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: those are matching with people that I've done those things with. 648 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 3: Dancing with the Stars with Alexis wren Z, the z 649 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 3: for Zombies originally with Kylie and now like half of 650 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: the cast. Meg has one, Carla has one. And then 651 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 3: the ghosts that I have for school spirits I have 652 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 3: with Spencer McPherson and Rainbow with two of my best friends. 653 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 3: So I'm just a really sentimental guy. I tried to 654 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 3: like clean out my house the other day, and it 655 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: was one of the more, like, more difficult things I've 656 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 3: ever done in my life. I felt like I was 657 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 3: going through a breakup. But I'm not a hoarder by 658 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 3: any means. But I keep everything because I love reminiscing 659 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 3: on those memories. Long ass answer, But that's what you got. 660 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. I love it. 661 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm a sentimental man myself, so I think that's awesome 662 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: we cherish the memories in our lives. I'm all about that. 663 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: And thank you for also opening up about your anxiety. 664 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: I think that's really cool for people to hear and 665 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: know that we all go through the same shit and 666 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what we do. So oh, man, Milo, 667 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: you are just you're the goat. Like I'm such a 668 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: fan of you as a human. Now, I'm so happy 669 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: we could connect and I hope you know you now 670 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: have another friend. 671 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: In New York. 672 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 3: Dude. We got to link up so I can hear 673 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 3: you talk instead of me just like spitting stuff at 674 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: you for half an hour. So I'm excited to meet 675 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 3: you in person. 676 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: Likewise, likewise, I'm gonna come see your show. We'll figure 677 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: it out. Congratulations on all of your success, man, keep 678 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: on rocking. 679 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I hope you have a good time. 680 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 3: Let me know when you comes. I can meet you 681 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 3: in the. 682 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: Theater after for sure, for sure. Thank you man, all right, 683 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: I love you. 684 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: Peace out. 685 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is hosted by Me Tommy Dedario. 686 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Publisi at iHeartRadio 687 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: and by Me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. 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