Speaker 1: What up, y'all?
Speaker 2: Amelio Rojas, I'm here on the Bootleg keV podcast.
Speaker 1: Check it out.
Speaker 3: Bootleg CAV podcast Special guest here, my guy, Emilia Rojas.
Speaker 1: Hey, what up? Man? Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. A new album
Speaker 1: is out right now. Yeah, dude, it's I'm hype. Like
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you say you felt fell back
Speaker 1: in level with rap again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like with rapping, with rapping because.
Speaker 1: You're you know, you're one of them ones. But you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like you've kind of expanded some of your
Speaker 1: sound over the years at different different times.
Speaker 2: You know, I was chasing records. I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 2: you know, like I was caught in that like trying
Speaker 2: to get a hit. Yeah, you know, because I had
Speaker 2: a little bit of success like where shit like almost happened.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh this is nice. And then, you know,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about like right now it does
Speaker 1: feel as wide open as ever to be a latinum See,
Speaker 1: I mean I think it like the Mexican ship right
Speaker 1: now is lit.
Speaker 2: The Mexican Ship is lick. Shout out to Coyote, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know those A homies. Shout out to homie Dominman,
Speaker 2: Fire Fire Fire, it's like I think to be a
Speaker 2: Latino right now, you know, it's like a specific I
Speaker 2: think the Mexican Ship is lit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I still don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know how I feel about it, because it's
Speaker 2: still like it's still you called it the Mexican Ship,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, well, that's fair, that's a fair point everything.
Speaker 1: But like all the labels are looking for like the
Speaker 1: next Mexicano T. Now they're like, yeah, we need to
Speaker 1: we need to sign Mexican, the new Mexicano T. And
Speaker 1: then I feel like the l A the La ship
Speaker 1: is just like there's so much like I guess, virality
Speaker 1: behind a lot of this ship. What do you mean,
Speaker 1: like Lefty Gunplay? Oh yeah, yeah, Like Lefty gun Play
Speaker 1: is going crazy on it. But you know, and the
Speaker 1: music is like it's like real street shit, Like his
Speaker 1: music mean too, he's dope, And you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like there was like a guy like guys like Coyote
Speaker 1: are getting like just a lot of love and respect
Speaker 1: because they're just doing dope ship and they happen to
Speaker 1: be Mexican. Yeah, I mean, I think that's kind of
Speaker 1: the goal. Is like the music has gotten a lot better,
Speaker 1: and I think like finally, like the quote unquote, like
Speaker 1: music industry is recognizing like in the United States, like
Speaker 1: you know, Mexicans are probably gonna be the biggest minority
Speaker 1: and if they're not already, at least in the Southwest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy. So it's like it's weird.
Speaker 2: I think like in the past, there was a lot
Speaker 2: of emphasis on like being an exotic Latino, like you know,
Speaker 2: you have people from like Latin America, right, But now
Speaker 2: I think they recognize, Oh, these kids that listen to
Speaker 2: Bad Money also listen to Drake, So there's like a
Speaker 2: full demographic of people that.
Speaker 1: Again, a lot of the Corridos artists are like they
Speaker 1: dressed like rappers. The fools are fucking double cupped, double supreme.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hella chains on, Yeah, they got front I excuse me,
Speaker 2: grills showing my age.
Speaker 1: Well, why do you think you fell back in love
Speaker 1: with getting back to you know, kind of because the
Speaker 1: project is dope. It's a really dope body of work,
Speaker 1: and you're you know, I feel like it's like a
Speaker 1: nice like updated version of what you were kind of
Speaker 1: like people knew you for you know, ten years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I feel like that too, And I wanted
Speaker 2: to really just focus on telling stories that not a
Speaker 2: lot of people were telling, you know, like I got
Speaker 2: a record on that.
Speaker 1: Did you hear Teal Forever yet? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So Teal Forever is like about me not having kids,
Speaker 2: right or like, you know, there's a skateboard record and
Speaker 2: I know Lupe did kick Push, but it wasn't the
Speaker 2: most authentic skateboard.
Speaker 1: How you grew up wanted to be a skater?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you know, it was like I
Speaker 2: think I really wanted to tell those stories. And we're
Speaker 2: also like in this really interesting time, like just in general,
Speaker 2: like with life right where I feel like different voices
Speaker 2: need to be heard and perspectives and I just think
Speaker 2: it's time.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like at a time like right now
Speaker 1: in the world, we're lacking conscious rap?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, you don't need those SKA I don't
Speaker 2: need them on so lacking conscious rap.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I think the music industry, the hip hop industry has
Speaker 2: only historically, really ever let a few conscious lyricists in right,
Speaker 2: and I think even the ones that we have, like
Speaker 2: kind of you know, carrying the torch right now, are
Speaker 2: not the most conscious, they're a little vapid and they're
Speaker 2: a little narcissistic.
Speaker 1: Yes, but that's what I mean. Like like back in
Speaker 1: the day, you think when we're yeah, I know who
Speaker 1: you're talking about, but uh, there's one guy that popped
Speaker 1: in my head. But back in the day when we
Speaker 1: had kind of that like ninety eight, ninety nine, two
Speaker 1: thousands era, there was like kind of the main quote
Speaker 1: unquote conscious rappers. I just don't know who that is now.
Speaker 1: Now that's like talking about like world issues, the issues
Speaker 1: that are like extremely I mean, you're you just did
Speaker 1: a crazy freestyle. People want to go watch it. You
Speaker 1: would touch on so much stuff. But I just feel
Speaker 1: like we're lacking like a young voice that has I guess,
Speaker 1: like a hold of the kids that can kind of
Speaker 1: like because I feel like there's so much like the
Speaker 1: capitalism comes first with all these new artists, like I
Speaker 1: don't know who's standing for shit, like for real, like
Speaker 1: right now, you know what I'm saying, Like I think
Speaker 1: it's easy to post a meme, but like's where's the
Speaker 1: fucking content and the music? Here's the records? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like you know, I think that kid Red
Speaker 2: Veil I haven't heard of him, so he was. I
Speaker 2: think he's on you know, a Mirabasi.
Speaker 1: I've heard of him, the label, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got he's got his Sparta shit Sparta.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I think they dropped a record, I believe.
Speaker 1: I haven't.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard the record, but I know he uh.
Speaker 2: He was like very pro Palestine like one of his shows,
Speaker 2: and like, you know, I think that's dope. You got
Speaker 2: like Kilanie, I know she's not a hip hop artist,
Speaker 2: for sure, She's saying a lot of dope.
Speaker 1: Ship with the ships, for sure.
Speaker 2: But I feel like you're right, you know that people
Speaker 2: ain't talking about ship. Yeah, people just really concerned about,
Speaker 2: like you know, where the next check is coming from,
Speaker 2: not really ruffling feathers.
Speaker 1: I think like being a conscious rapper now is like
Speaker 1: supporting Kamala Harris. Yeah, which is fucking it's crazy performative.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's like how you I don't understand how
Speaker 2: people could. And I also I feel like a lot
Speaker 2: of the artists that have been labeled as like quote
Speaker 2: unquote conscious kind of like view the term as derogatory,
Speaker 2: you know, like they shy away from it. Like I'm
Speaker 2: not a conscious rapper. I just talked, I'm just a rapper.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like there's nothing wrong with where yeah
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I even think, like fuck, like, you know,
Speaker 1: a Mortal Technique back in the day when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, was like I was a fucking sixteen year old,
Speaker 1: like listening to a Mortal technique. Do you know what
Speaker 1: that did to my Yeah? For sure, Like I had
Speaker 1: a Mortal Technique to like go to and be like
Speaker 1: wait a minute, this is crazy. Yeah, And I just
Speaker 1: don't know who that is right now, Like I just
Speaker 1: don't know who's doing that, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's It just sucks because I feel like it's I
Speaker 1: mean like it's I mean, obviously you just put out
Speaker 1: a dope album and and but I just mean in
Speaker 1: terms of like who's the sixteen year old jumping to,
Speaker 1: Like I was like, you know, I had I had
Speaker 1: certain artists that I could go to to feel like,
Speaker 1: oh I could learn Public Enemy. Yeah, there's no Public
Speaker 1: Enemy right now, you know what I mean? Like Public
Speaker 1: Enemy was super important because I were I mean, they
Speaker 1: were a little bit before my time in terms of
Speaker 1: like my age. But like I went and read the
Speaker 1: autobi like Chuck Chucky's biography and went back and listened
Speaker 1: to shit and I was like, oh shit, but it
Speaker 1: was I just don't know where that's coming from right now.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I agree with you man, it's and it's
Speaker 2: just it's a shame because hip hop has always been
Speaker 2: like about like, you know, rebellion. In my opinion, for sure,
Speaker 2: it started out in New York City because of like
Speaker 2: really shitty economic conditions, right, and like people were just
Speaker 2: and partying.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it is what it is, right,
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, somebody needs to fucking I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess if it's on purpose because you feel like there's
Speaker 1: a niche to feel, it wouldn't be as organic and good.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like somebody from the younger generation got
Speaker 1: to step up for real. Yeah, you have your Venezuela
Speaker 1: jersey on. Oh yes, there is a huge Your country
Speaker 1: is in the news. Yeah right now, now, I am,
Speaker 1: I would say, pretty. So let me get this straight.
Speaker 1: There's a election. Sunday was the election. Sunday was the election.
Speaker 1: One party claimed that they won, right, the opposition party,
Speaker 1: the opposition party. Right, who's it's a girl? Right? Matchada? Okay,
Speaker 1: so she claimed she won. The current guy who's been
Speaker 1: there for a minute, was like, nah, I mean no.
Speaker 1: They announced that he was the winner, and I think
Speaker 1: it was a seventy thirty.
Speaker 2: No, so he like won like fifty two percent.
Speaker 1: Okay, So it was close. It was super close. So
Speaker 1: it was super close.
Speaker 2: The opposition party claimed that they won.
Speaker 1: Se seventy third. Okay, so the opposition party claimed that.
Speaker 1: And at the moment, there is what it seems like
Speaker 1: some sort of teetering revolution happening, at least if you
Speaker 1: were to just like watch CNN. There's people in the
Speaker 1: army officers who are taking off their uniforms to side
Speaker 1: with the people. Can you give me in your opinion
Speaker 1: the what's what's? I mean, sure, you know, like what
Speaker 1: what's going on? Because you know, you're a lot more
Speaker 1: educated on the situation than me. I feel like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, it's like a CIA back to coop.
Speaker 2: But hey, I mean, well, the United States has been
Speaker 2: trying to create a pretext for like installing like a
Speaker 2: favorable government in Venezuela for upwards of twenty years.
Speaker 1: And why is that? Is? What does Venezuela have that
Speaker 1: we want because it's always something we want there.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Venezuela is a very resource rich country.
Speaker 2: We have like the largest oil reserves.
Speaker 1: In the world. Okay, so being oil yep.
Speaker 2: And then like back in like the early two thousands,
Speaker 2: Chavez really pushed for a multipolar world, which would threaten
Speaker 2: US dollar hegemony. So like what that means is it
Speaker 2: would create different economic Instead of having one economy, the
Speaker 2: US economy, controlling the global economy, it would be multiple different.
Speaker 1: Right, because typically the US dollar is the standard, right.
Speaker 2: The dollar is the standard, right, we trade oil well
Speaker 2: until recently, right, you know, and now with the emergence
Speaker 2: of bricks and all these other things. So what happened
Speaker 2: when when Chavas is pushing for the multipolarity, you know,
Speaker 2: it threatened it made a lot of like people in
Speaker 2: the US a little uneasy. And then he also refused
Speaker 2: to privatize like all the oil companies and stuff and
Speaker 2: open them up for neoliberal policy. So it's like he
Speaker 2: wouldn't allow US corporations to come in and basically rape
Speaker 2: a very resource country, a resource rich country of because
Speaker 2: had he.
Speaker 1: Made him privatized, then we already know what would have happened.
Speaker 2: I mean it would have been exactly what we did
Speaker 2: in Guatemala, like with United Fruit or any any place
Speaker 2: at the United States. Is what we did in Iraq
Speaker 2: with the Green Zone. You know, like we go in,
Speaker 2: we make the economy, we like remove what like we install,
Speaker 2: Like we go in, we put all these like harsh
Speaker 2: austerity measures in place, which means like it's basically like
Speaker 2: US corporations can come in unchecked, unfettered capitalism just boom
Speaker 2: boom boom, hot money just coming and coming in and
Speaker 2: it's good for a while, right, So like when when
Speaker 2: these policies are first implemented, you do see like an
Speaker 2: uptick and everybody's quality of life, but it's short lived
Speaker 2: because eventually it's just.
Speaker 1: It's like it's almost never worked out when they've done that,
Speaker 1: it never happened. Don't think it's worked out one time.
Speaker 1: It works out for us, right, for the US or
Speaker 1: the US, but for the people of those countries, it
Speaker 1: never works out. Right.
Speaker 2: And so what the opposition party was in this election,
Speaker 2: you know, they're heavily backed by the US State Department.
Speaker 2: They were funded like a couple of years ago, the
Speaker 2: US seized a bunch of like money that was saved
Speaker 2: in foreign accounts that belonged to like Venezuela and the
Speaker 2: Venezuelan people, and they gave it to Guido and then
Speaker 2: that money like has funded his party. So you know,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of it's it's really complicated because you know,
Speaker 2: on the one hand, like the United States is clearly
Speaker 2: meddling and deliberately like destabilizing a country through like a
Speaker 2: harsh sanctions regime and like all all sorts of crazy shit.
Speaker 2: But on the other hand, people in Venezuela are fucking suffering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean you were telling me once those
Speaker 1: sanctions hit Venezuela, like ninety nine percent of the economy
Speaker 1: disappeared or like the GOP, the GDP just GDP.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it went we like the Venezuelan like
Speaker 2: economy dropped by ninety nine percent, which is crazy. So
Speaker 2: like even if Maludo is corrupt, so let's say he
Speaker 2: is corrupt, Like I'm okay, fuck it, Like I don't
Speaker 2: believe any politician is not corrupt. So Maludo's corrupt, You're
Speaker 2: still stealing from one percent of the former like you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like the impact of the sanctions
Speaker 2: is going to be much much stronger than the impact
Speaker 2: of like somebody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the US is like tooled to say
Speaker 1: fuck you to a government, is to sanction the fuck
Speaker 1: out of them, which essentially starves the country, starves the people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think people here sanctions they don't understand
Speaker 2: how fucking real that is. Like one hundred thousand people
Speaker 2: have died in Venezuela based on the sanctions alone.
Speaker 1: That shit's crazy.
Speaker 2: Over a million in Iraq. That should's crazy, you know,
Speaker 2: And like the thing that's crazy is like we don't
Speaker 2: understand how severe it is. Right, Like, when when you
Speaker 2: impose a sanctions program on a country, you block them
Speaker 2: from the global economy.
Speaker 1: Right, So if if.
Speaker 2: This country wants any goods that they can't produce themselves,
Speaker 2: they have to find a country that's willing to sidestep
Speaker 2: the US block of that. Right, So you have to
Speaker 2: go to places like China, Russia or wherever. Right, And
Speaker 2: oftentimes that comes at a huge price. So you've got
Speaker 2: to go get medicine that you can't produce in the country.
Speaker 2: You have to with Venezuela, you have to go sell
Speaker 2: your oil, right, you're selling it for pennies on the
Speaker 2: dollar of what it would be worth in the traditional
Speaker 2: global economy because you're going outside because of this sanctions program.
Speaker 2: So it fund like it really cripples like what you're
Speaker 2: able to do economically.
Speaker 1: So what do you like do you think that because
Speaker 1: it seems like a lot of it feels like the
Speaker 1: whole the kind of when I go when I go
Speaker 1: on Twitter or I go on Instagram, it feels like
Speaker 1: there's kind of like a split, like certain people or
Speaker 1: with the current guy who feel because they feel like
Speaker 1: this is an obvious coup trying to overthrow this guy
Speaker 1: because he won't, you know, play nice with the US.
Speaker 1: Then the other side thinks that, well, this girl did
Speaker 1: win and this guy's corrupt, and you know right.
Speaker 2: So, Venezuela has one of the most transparent voting systems
Speaker 2: in the world. Right, they take a biometrics before you vote,
Speaker 2: they take an ID photo, you go and you vote
Speaker 2: in like in a little electronic machine where the votes
Speaker 2: aretalitied electronically, and then you get a paper print out
Speaker 2: and you put that print out in a ballot box
Speaker 2: and then they make sure that the ballot boxes match
Speaker 2: the electronic tally. And then they're also over a thought
Speaker 2: for this election specifically, there were over one thousand independent viewers,
Speaker 2: I guess, like election viewers to make sure that the
Speaker 2: process was fair.
Speaker 1: And just sounds like we should adopt that.
Speaker 2: It's very even the Carter Foundation, like before or the
Speaker 2: Carter Foundation was funded by the US State Department, when
Speaker 2: it was just like Jimmy Carter's like yeah, like Little
Speaker 2: Love Child was au it said that Venezuela had one
Speaker 2: of the most like transparent election policies in the world,
Speaker 2: and this was like in the eighties and it's been
Speaker 2: that way since, you know, so the opposition has since
Speaker 2: before the election, they said they would reject the results
Speaker 2: as outright fraud, so even before the day of the voting,
Speaker 2: and then they have suggested that they won seventy percent
Speaker 2: of the vote. But they're still waiting now for the
Speaker 2: paper ballot, like people are waiting I guess for like the.
Speaker 1: Proof they're going to try to kill that dude, huh,
Speaker 1: yeah for sure, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I you know, I don't know about
Speaker 2: Maduro as like a person, and you know, obviously the
Speaker 2: people in.
Speaker 1: Yeah like that you're defending him as a dude. But
Speaker 1: it's like it feels like that this is going to
Speaker 1: end up with him getting killed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you know, like in the beginning,
Speaker 2: I think in the beginning of like Chavez's presidency, like
Speaker 2: a lot of good things did happen at first, right,
Speaker 2: the US intervention with Bush two, Right, so like you know,
Speaker 2: like you saw infant mortality rates go down, literacy rates
Speaker 2: went up, people that were living in like the little
Speaker 2: bodyos were given like these communes that were like everything
Speaker 2: was like more socialized. You know, they were starting like
Speaker 2: they were splitting doing profit shares of like factories and stuff,
Speaker 2: and you know, these things drastically improve quality of life
Speaker 2: for a lot of people. And then the first sanctions
Speaker 2: hit with Bush two, so that kind of crippled it.
Speaker 2: So it's easy to blame socialism, but really.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the sanctions are our tool of making you
Speaker 1: sells your oil exactly.
Speaker 2: And you know there are people that are on record
Speaker 2: like James like what's it Bolton, Elliott Abrams, like these
Speaker 2: are people that work in you on a US policy level,
Speaker 2: that are just fucking evil human beings, right, And it's
Speaker 2: like they're on record, like talking to the Wall Street
Speaker 2: Journal New York Times, like we're going to make their
Speaker 2: economy screen, you know.
Speaker 1: Like who gets affected by that? The people? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you can point and say, oh, look it's socialism
Speaker 1: is badly doesn't work. But it's like dude, if they
Speaker 1: were doing fine, but yeah, that's it's ray.
Speaker 2: And the thing that like the thing about Latin America
Speaker 2: is like when Venezuela started, like with these socialist policies,
Speaker 2: what happened?
Speaker 1: It spread?
Speaker 2: You know, you had all these other countries in Latin
Speaker 2: America that wanted to reject us imperialism. You had Eva
Speaker 2: Morales right from Bolivia, like an indigenous president right also
Speaker 2: overthrown by the CIA and coup. You know, you had
Speaker 2: people like like that, Like this whole pink tide started
Speaker 2: to sweep across Latin America and like people were like
Speaker 2: you know what now, like you're not going to come in,
Speaker 2: You're not going to install like a dictator. That's you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like you're not going to do
Speaker 2: what you did to fucking Chile here.
Speaker 1: You know, So do you what do you think about
Speaker 1: what is going on in El Salvador? That president I
Speaker 1: just watched an interview with him. He's kind of took
Speaker 1: he's got the gold. Well, he's taken the fucking cron
Speaker 1: I think it's this. No, it's it is definitively the lowest.
Speaker 1: It's the safest country in the Western Hemisphere. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: haven't been paying attention. Yeah, and it was it's more Dan,
Speaker 1: it was more dangerous than Haiti prior to him being
Speaker 1: the president. But this fool's like, but what did he do?
Speaker 1: Like every single person that's in MS thirteen or eighteenth
Speaker 1: Street is in prison. Oh shit, I mean, if you
Speaker 1: have a fucking my boy shots a thousand words. There's
Speaker 1: a dope group called Third World Records here and they're both
Speaker 1: outside of doing and they're breaking it down to me.
Speaker 1: They're like, yo, like yo, Like I went out there
Speaker 1: to visit my grandma. Yeah, just because I have tattoos.
Speaker 1: They're like, you gotta cover your fucking arms up because
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna make you take your shit, and
Speaker 1: like like, if you have MS thirteen inc. It's eighty
Speaker 1: years in prison, get the fuck out of here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. That's crazy. I don't know if that's like
Speaker 1: a good thing. No, I don't know, but but he
Speaker 1: was saying, he was like, yo, but all of my
Speaker 1: family loves it now because they're like, Yo, before it
Speaker 1: was like the whole country was ran by these gangs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now it's like you can go outside, you could play,
Speaker 1: you could like he's like you could go on vacation
Speaker 1: and enjoy this beautiful country and not worry about getting
Speaker 1: ra murdered. Right. But it's it's it's almost like it's
Speaker 1: it's just interesting to always kind of like just look
Speaker 1: at like examples of countries doing extreme extreme things.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's crazy extreme hearing it kind of scares me,
Speaker 2: right because it's like what was that movie with Tom
Speaker 2: Cruise where the balls would drop in those minority report. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like a preventative thing, like you know, like it's crazy.
Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy, right, and like you know.
Speaker 1: It is wild. But it's like anybody who's a gang member, yeah,
Speaker 1: or if they're US citizens or they they they had
Speaker 1: been here or they have like uh like a visa
Speaker 1: that he sends them back wow, back to the US. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's why if you see Trump talking, he's like one
Speaker 1: of those guys is bragging about his local He's sending
Speaker 1: them all back here.
Speaker 2: I mean, but you know, like what happened we were
Speaker 2: the United States is the like partially responsible for destabilizing.
Speaker 1: Well look at the end of the day. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so it's like, yeah, I mean, dude, honestly, like I've
Speaker 1: been so fucking discurr bridge just with the political process
Speaker 1: for the last three years where I'm just like I felt,
Speaker 1: really I feel really bad that I voted for Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: I'm like horrible, right, Like I'm never again in my
Speaker 1: life gonna just vote for somebody just because I have to.
Speaker 1: I'm good, bro, Like I've voting Democrat my whole life,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, like these motherfuckers are
Speaker 1: all playing on the same team. Bro. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting too, because the Democrats, like they
Speaker 2: present themselves like a progressive party, right, They're not exactly,
Speaker 2: But people like you and I who want to see change,
Speaker 2: we're like, oh they're progressive. Let's fucking full rally behind them.
Speaker 1: For sure, bro. Because imagine, like that's why I was
Speaker 1: me and my boy were talking. My bro, if fucking
Speaker 1: Kamala really wanted to show motherfucker shoes with the shits,
Speaker 1: she'd be like, Yo, day one, I'm pardoning everyone in
Speaker 1: prison right now for fucking marijuana. Fucking offenses. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: oh but that might fuck with your private prison fucking
Speaker 1: check that comes in, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: The United States has twenty five percent of the world's
Speaker 2: prison population, so it's insane.
Speaker 1: But the problem is there's just so much money involved
Speaker 1: that nobody will ever hold their dick and be like yo,
Speaker 1: because you, as the president, you have the power to
Speaker 1: pardon people for sure, an unlimited amount of people if
Speaker 1: you wanted to. So it's like if you really gave
Speaker 1: a fuck for real, it's all performative. It's the easiest
Speaker 1: thing to do. Yeah, you can change people's lives.
Speaker 2: I mean, she worked what was she's top cop?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, I just think I think it's interesting
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm not I've said this on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I'm not voting for either Trump nor Kamala, saying fuck them.
Speaker 1: But it is just funny to me that like, yo,
Speaker 1: the media really has some pool man, mm hmm, like,
Speaker 1: because so many people are just very I mean people
Speaker 1: go to work, man, they don't have time to dive
Speaker 1: in and do research, and.
Speaker 2: For sure they want whatever's fed to them. It's convenient,
Speaker 2: and people are.
Speaker 1: Very like they vote on based on like who makes
Speaker 1: them like what makes them feel warm and fuzzy or
Speaker 1: who scares them the most. It's fear or it's fuzzy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's not like yo, like if you really just
Speaker 1: strip down like the boat, both of these candidates, nothing
Speaker 1: would have changed if Trump was the fucking president. I
Speaker 1: mean there's still be fucking people and guys are getting
Speaker 1: slaughtered yep, and at the end of the day, there's
Speaker 1: our country. Would I heard he was gonna if he
Speaker 1: gets elected, he's gonna make Larry Fink the CEO of
Speaker 1: fucking Blackrock, like the head of this fucking treasury. Some shit,
Speaker 1: my guys. If that isn't yeh, the biggest red flag dude,
Speaker 1: you not vote for him either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, especially like companies like Blackrock like that are
Speaker 2: basically like ensuring that we will never have a home
Speaker 2: ever again. Yeah, it's like, yeah, fuck that, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: But you know what's funny about Trump is he to
Speaker 2: a huge demographic of the American population, he represents class mobility.
Speaker 2: It's like people think they're gonna vote for Trump and
Speaker 2: he's gonna reach down and bring them, bring them up,
Speaker 2: and that's not gonna fucking happen.
Speaker 1: Well, that's always kind of been the Republican side. Well,
Speaker 1: I could be that one day. Yeah, I could be
Speaker 1: that one day.
Speaker 2: I mean it'd be great, you know, Like I do
Speaker 2: think Trump did some good things. He took us out
Speaker 2: of NAFTA, like there.
Speaker 1: Were some good Trump And I don't think fucked NATO respectfully,
Speaker 1: Like NATO can go fuck themselves. The thing about NATO
Speaker 1: what people don't understand is every single time a country
Speaker 1: signs up for NATO, they have to fucking commit to
Speaker 1: It's a it's a military industrial complex play for the
Speaker 1: United States, it's all it is. Every time there's a
Speaker 1: new NATO country, that's a new country that exclusively has
Speaker 1: to purchase their weapons from US yep, and we have
Speaker 1: to put bases in that country, period. And it's like
Speaker 1: this big boomerang of money. That's why this fucking Ukrainian war.
Speaker 1: Whatever you feel about Putin, I always say, yo, hero villain,
Speaker 1: it's all perspective. Motherfucker. They were barking on that motherfucker's
Speaker 1: border for years when they weren't supposed to. But bruh,
Speaker 1: they want that war to go on forever. Of course
Speaker 1: they want.
Speaker 2: We've been in our entire life, the United States has
Speaker 2: been at worst since the first call war.
Speaker 1: Now it's wild if you really think about it, and then,
Speaker 1: but that's what we offer the world.
Speaker 2: That's our chief ecs entertainment anymore.
Speaker 1: Is entertainment, culture and fucking weapons. Yeah, it's crazy, murder,
Speaker 1: it is. What do you think? Uh? First of all,
Speaker 1: what were your thoughts when the Trump thing happened? Bro?
Speaker 1: That was one of the craziest I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, Trump was a gangster about it, the
Speaker 1: most g ship I ever seen. He got up and
Speaker 1: he was like fuck fuck. I was like this motherfucking yeah.
Speaker 1: And that that was before Biden dropped out, Oh he
Speaker 1: has to do Yeah, this seventy nine year old manners.
Speaker 1: How are the fucking old Trump is just jumped up
Speaker 1: after getting shot in the fucking ear? Yeah, and played
Speaker 1: fucking eighteen Hey, eighteen fucking holes of golf is no
Speaker 1: easy task, boys, especially the day after Sube tries to
Speaker 1: kill you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's that was It was crazy, man Like,
Speaker 2: just seeing like all the videos of people like pointing
Speaker 2: at the shooter and all, like the massive security failure
Speaker 2: that had to happen.
Speaker 1: Almost feels like it was on purpose. I mean it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the first time that they killed a president.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I just got a shirt that says make
Speaker 2: assassinations great again.
Speaker 1: Do you think that because you know, it's so crazy
Speaker 1: because what I know, Trump signed off on it, Biden
Speaker 1: signed off on it. I think Obama might have to
Speaker 1: release the full JFK files. Oh yeah yeah. Do you
Speaker 1: think they're just waiting for everyone that was involved to
Speaker 1: be dead? Maybe? Yeah, because I feel like if you
Speaker 1: release those files and it's obvious that the government we
Speaker 1: killed our own president.
Speaker 2: I mean because he was he was outspoken against Israel.
Speaker 1: And he was outspoken against the fucking Alphabet boys. Yep,
Speaker 1: his and so was his brother and they took his
Speaker 1: brother down. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We have like unchecked institutions running around with blank checks.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, but yeah, it's honestly like, uh yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: I fucking part of me which wishes I was just
Speaker 1: still stupid. Right.
Speaker 2: It's like once you once you're like aware it's fucking depressing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, once you see it, you can't unsee it. So
Speaker 1: like anytime I watch the news, I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is all propaganda on both sides, bro, Like.
Speaker 2: Not even the news, bro. I can't watch a fucking
Speaker 2: Marvel movie anymore. We're just like, why the fuck is
Speaker 2: Captain Like fuck Captain America?
Speaker 1: Or The Boys? Yeah, Like I was watching The Boys,
Speaker 1: I'm like, they're just mocking. Did you know about The Boys?
Speaker 2: The fourth season? It's all mocking the Maga.
Speaker 1: People, right, I'm like, yo, like this isn't helpful.
Speaker 2: No, And it's like that it's so tribalistic, right, like
Speaker 2: the the Blue Blue Maga and then like Maga, Like
Speaker 2: it's like, you guys are just all fucking.
Speaker 1: Just they're both each side is the same, like like
Speaker 1: each side calls the other side cult members, but they're
Speaker 1: both cult members. Sure, Like at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: there are things that you have to be able to
Speaker 1: come and say, hey, guys, we both agree, like like
Speaker 1: the it's just the line, loyalty ship, the falling in
Speaker 1: line on both sides. Just like dude, Like if I
Speaker 1: was a fucking a Republican, I'd be pissed they picked JD. E. Vans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a he's a he's a fucking tool bag. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like it is what it is. But the
Speaker 1: motherfucker's fall online and the and the easiest, Like yo,
Speaker 1: the way because the Democratic Party, you could tell, was
Speaker 1: very like, Yo, guys, what are we doing? There were
Speaker 1: some people who were like what are we.
Speaker 2: I feel like it was the Kamala sh It's probably
Speaker 2: been in the works for since before the primary. But
Speaker 2: they knew she couldn't win a primary.
Speaker 1: She would have lost. And that's what's crazy is they changed, well,
Speaker 1: they changed the rules of the primary exactly times. They
Speaker 1: forced r fk out. Yeah he was, he was campaigning
Speaker 1: in New Hampshire, and they changed the rule in New
Speaker 1: Hampshire for the primary that there was an incoming Democratic president,
Speaker 1: that any vote that was casted in New Hampshire, no
Speaker 1: matter who it was for in the primary, would go
Speaker 1: to Biden. Yeah, so at that point in time he
Speaker 1: had to be like, well, I guess I'm leaving the party.
Speaker 1: Yeah fucking crazy, but yeah, no, Kamala would not have
Speaker 1: won the primary. No, she would have if it was
Speaker 1: If they would have, they had to have known that
Speaker 1: Biden was cooked for some time. So if they would
Speaker 1: have done a real primary, it would have just been
Speaker 1: up for.
Speaker 2: Grabs, especially with somebody who has like no charisma like Kamala.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean she's got charisma. Now they're telling
Speaker 1: us she has charisma. I mean yeah, and that's my
Speaker 1: thing is like, it's just like we just got force
Speaker 1: fed a presidential candidate that nobody voted for. Nobody voted
Speaker 1: for there was, It's fucking it's like some king shit.
Speaker 1: It's wild. Yeah, it's just a political and I'm a
Speaker 1: registered Democrat. So it's like, as a registered Democrat, I
Speaker 1: would have liked to have had a choice, had a choice, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have. You know, who's who was the Bernie
Speaker 1: Sanders of this.
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders turned out to be fucking disappointing too.
Speaker 1: I agree, especially the last year and a half or so.
Speaker 2: Come on aoc huge disappointment, like they all just got
Speaker 2: bought out.
Speaker 1: By the corporate It's rough. It is rough.
Speaker 2: The Democratic Party is just a bunch of like wolves
Speaker 2: and sheep's clothing.
Speaker 1: The Democratic Party is also much more corrupt than the
Speaker 1: Republican Party. I agree.
Speaker 2: It's like there's a Chinese proverb, the hidden sword is
Speaker 2: the sharpest. At least with the Republicans, they wear their
Speaker 2: fucking hatred, their racism. There's enophobia like a fucking merit badge.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, the Democratic Party, it's snuck in there, man,
Speaker 1: and it's like you'll have like white dudes yelling at like, Bro,
Speaker 1: my fucking producer Sam is this old white guy and
Speaker 1: he was like telling James, my co host, who's a
Speaker 1: black man? Yeah, I just I don't. I don't see
Speaker 1: any person of color taking themselves serious if they vote
Speaker 1: for for Trump. And we both looked at him like,
Speaker 1: who are you to say that, bro? Like, and that's
Speaker 1: my thing is like, dude, at the end of the day, Like,
Speaker 1: I think that I was at a point where I
Speaker 1: was so fucking brainwashed where I would like, really not
Speaker 1: fuck with somebody if I found out they voted for
Speaker 1: Trump for real, Like I wouldn't fuck with him, Like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't talk to him. Yeah, I guess stopped talking
Speaker 1: to certain people. I was like, damn, Like that's what's
Speaker 1: wrong with our country. Is like I can agree to
Speaker 1: disagree with you, m Like, we can have a conversation
Speaker 1: and if you feel the way you feel, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I feel the way I feel. We agree about on
Speaker 1: eighty percent of this shit. For really, it's that twenty
Speaker 1: percent that they be fucking shoving down your fucking throat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's probably even less too. It's probably more
Speaker 1: like ten percent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's crazy because it's like that's by design.
Speaker 1: Right, dude. Like the trans boxer yesterday everybody went crazy
Speaker 1: with and it turned out she's a genetic female who
Speaker 1: has like a rare condition, and you know.
Speaker 2: What's crazy about it, it's like, from a fucking Islamic
Speaker 2: country that's like super anti trans. They think they're going
Speaker 2: to put a trans fighter in the Olympic and.
Speaker 1: She lost nine times genetic women. In twenty twenty, she
Speaker 1: lost the boxing match to the Irish chick, and it's like,
Speaker 1: but the culture wars grabbed it and it was over yeap.
Speaker 2: Now even now right now refuted, right, they're still pushing
Speaker 2: that narrative.
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, like these are the little things on
Speaker 1: the edges that like, okay, now the right has to
Speaker 1: say this is what the Democrats want. They want people fighting,
Speaker 1: and it's like, dude, first of all, that didn't that's
Speaker 1: not what happened on this example. You know, how do
Speaker 1: you feel about that issue. I feel I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I feel like if you were born a man, I
Speaker 1: don't feel like I feel like you should have your
Speaker 1: own you know, class of fighting or swimming or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know, there's there are genetic different advantages, you know,
Speaker 1: but but this is not what that was. No percent
Speaker 1: wasn't and it's just like, so now the rights got
Speaker 1: their thing, and then the lefts got their thing, and
Speaker 1: it was fucking Trump going on his fucking that truth
Speaker 1: you saw, no, no when he went on that, when
Speaker 1: he went to the black journalist thing, and oh I
Speaker 1: saw that too. I watched the whole ship.
Speaker 2: God, the first question he is like, first of all,
Speaker 2: that's very rude. Trump is hilarious.
Speaker 1: It was fuck. We paused it probably five or six
Speaker 1: times just to be like is this a Boondogs episode?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? What he was like when we need
Speaker 1: him back? Well, first of all, I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize she was black. She just started being black, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, and I'm like, res Indian, does he not know
Speaker 3: that there's biracial people that exist in the world, Like,
Speaker 3: are biracial people?
Speaker 1: It feels like two.
Speaker 3: The loudest Republicans at least, that they didn't know biracial
Speaker 3: people were a thing.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so funny.
Speaker 3: Like you do know people can identify as two things
Speaker 3: at once because they are like she can be black
Speaker 3: and Indian and she can be proud of both heritages.
Speaker 1: It doesn't like, what are we talking about with that
Speaker 1: being said, not voting for Comma not same Tom Poco Poppy.
Speaker 2: I'm not fucking not fuck her lock too many people
Speaker 2: up and.
Speaker 1: Just she's just gonna push more of this forever warship,
Speaker 1: I mean rosch Med and then Yahoo, they fucking approved
Speaker 1: those weapons getting dropped in Beabru. They probably approved. Well
Speaker 1: I'm hearing that the motherfucking assassination on the guy from
Speaker 1: Hamas was one of the guys. I've just uh, what
Speaker 1: the guys some billionaire I think he owns what's app Yeah,
Speaker 1: the billionaire who likes founded what's that? Oh, you gotta
Speaker 1: send me that. I'm not hi. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get it all into it. But
Speaker 1: but either way, you've noticed on the campaign trail this
Speaker 1: last week, no one has mentioned that we're like nothing
Speaker 1: geopolitical that's happening in the world. Nothing. They should be
Speaker 1: talking about the fact that we might go to World
Speaker 1: War three. Dude. It's fucking crazy for me, my tip.
Speaker 1: You know what, because because knowing that and having an
Speaker 1: eighteen year old son that's like my number one, like,
Speaker 1: my number one issue.
Speaker 2: Is that you think you're worried about like a Conscription
Speaker 2: Act situation, Chris.
Speaker 1: They're already putting the draft back in. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: And it's like, yo, like if if the world ends, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are we talking about?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, I guess some some sola
Speaker 2: you could find. At least, they'll probably just do it
Speaker 2: with drones. It'll be like a video game, you know,
Speaker 2: fucking real.
Speaker 1: Impersonal. That is the one thing that like, I just
Speaker 1: I'm just curious Trump, at the very least, his instability,
Speaker 1: it should, you would think, make people question whether or
Speaker 1: not they should fuck with us because he has the
Speaker 1: nuclear because he like bro like he murked the motherfucking
Speaker 1: general and Iran and they didn't really do anything. They
Speaker 1: did a performative response where they shot a missile in
Speaker 1: Iraq near a base that they knew wouldn't hit any Americans.
Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, it's it's a Trump is like a
Speaker 2: loose cannon, and I think that does frighten people to
Speaker 2: some degree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I'm gonna vote. I'm gonna vote for R. FK.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna let the fucking cards fall where they may.
Speaker 1: I'm gona vote for Jill Stein. She afted Jill Stein.
Speaker 1: She like her. Hey, she's been cooking on tour. She's cooking.
Speaker 1: I like her.
Speaker 2: She's feisty. She's feisty.
Speaker 1: She called out calm. She said Trump might be scaredy.
Speaker 1: You ain't scaredy. I saw that.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I like it. Yeah, man, fuck
Speaker 2: you know She's she's anti empire.
Speaker 1: Like I like that too. I'm over this empire. I
Speaker 1: feel like Jill Stein's been running for president my whole life.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I agree it's true. It's true.
Speaker 2: But eventually, you know, maybe she'll get on a ballot.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna rock with her.
Speaker 1: I ain't mad at her. Shout to Jill that'd be
Speaker 1: a I would not be mad at it. So for you,
Speaker 1: are you, like, how how active? I mean, obviously you're
Speaker 1: putting out the music, but are you actively recording at
Speaker 1: all times? Are you just like yo, a couple of
Speaker 1: days a week. Are you making sure you're in the studio,
Speaker 1: are you writing all the time, or do you like
Speaker 1: put the music out take a little break, relax.
Speaker 2: I got a huge backlog of records I'm super prolific.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna come out. I was just
Speaker 2: telling you earlier I got some crazy features that'll probably
Speaker 2: never see the light of day, right, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's like you say, you're doing some rock shit too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got a rock.
Speaker 2: Project coming out, which is I'm fucking excited about. That's
Speaker 2: what I like right now. Like it's it's new, So
Speaker 2: maybe maybe my fans won't love it, but I love
Speaker 2: it right now because it's new.
Speaker 1: I know what that's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, shouts to all the artists. They always
Speaker 2: love the new shit. Yeah, but you know, I just
Speaker 2: gave him some of the old ship.
Speaker 1: So for sure, what what made you? I'm not familiar
Speaker 1: with the playback? You say their producers from Miami. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how'd you link up with them? A week? A guy?
Speaker 1: What's a whole crew of producer?
Speaker 2: So it's like, my boy Sus Sus did most of
Speaker 2: this project, and we've done a bunch of records, you know,
Speaker 2: just tons of records, and we're like, well, we always work,
Speaker 2: so let's just do a project. It just came out organically,
Speaker 2: like it was that good sound like like he was like, yo,
Speaker 2: I think you should be doing more hip hop type shit.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you're right, I really like that's
Speaker 2: what I enjoy right, you know, So we did it
Speaker 2: and it felt good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, who's been the one? Because you've had some
Speaker 1: pretty crazy Uh would you say that like you're one
Speaker 1: of the I would say Joe Budden's like the pioneer
Speaker 1: emo rap. Mm hm. I feel like you came right
Speaker 1: after like some emo shit. I feel like your early
Speaker 1: Green Lantern tapes are like pretty vulnerable and like very
Speaker 1: like for like some of the like for the times
Speaker 1: it was dysfunctional dysfunctional.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I grew personally, so maybe that
Speaker 2: dysfunctional element is not quite so prevalent in my music right,
Speaker 2: but my life is still pretty fucking dysfunctional. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I'm always together a little bit. You got out of
Speaker 1: Rochester I did, which I hear.
Speaker 2: Is fucked Rochester's grimy city.
Speaker 1: Someone told me it was crazy. I just had a
Speaker 1: conversation with somebody about Rochester and I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: my boys from there. I might have been a rapper.
Speaker 2: I mean, eto's from from Rochester. Specialist from Rochester.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard it's crazy up there. That's crazy. How
Speaker 1: far is that from Buffalo Hour? Yeah, buf Buffalo's crazy too.
Speaker 1: Buffalo is what everyone thinks Cleveland is. Yeah, like Cleveland's
Speaker 1: pretty crazy though, or no, I would say buffaloes. Everyone
Speaker 1: thinks Detroit is because we went to Detroit and I
Speaker 1: was like, I love it here. We went to Buffalo.
Speaker 1: We're like damn.
Speaker 2: When I was in Detroit last we went to a
Speaker 2: strip club like that. Royce had I head up Rice
Speaker 2: because our security guard wanted to know, like what good
Speaker 2: strip clubs were?
Speaker 1: Which did you go through? I don't remember. It was small, man.
Speaker 2: We walk in it was like smaller than this room,
Speaker 2: and like the girl that was dancing was like on
Speaker 2: a palette from like you know.
Speaker 1: From like back of home depot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like there was like a stripper pull and
Speaker 2: like a palette on the top and a palette at
Speaker 2: the bottom. And then the security guard went and got
Speaker 2: like a dance and he comes back down and he's like.
Speaker 1: Uh, he said, yeah, so we we were safe for
Speaker 1: like good dude.
Speaker 2: It was so it was so sketch. The security guard
Speaker 2: went to go get a dance and then he comes
Speaker 2: back down. He's like, yo, you got money, Like why
Speaker 2: He's like, cause I was up there for five minutes,
Speaker 2: but they had all they were charging me per song,
Speaker 2: and they had all these songs.
Speaker 1: Chipmunks sped up.
Speaker 2: They had like all these ships like fucking sounded like
Speaker 2: an old fucking uh that's heat maker sample and ship.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. That is a good that is a
Speaker 1: good trick. I was like, damn, bro, you fucked up. Wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: are you doing any Are you gonna go back out
Speaker 1: on the road with this or with this project? Maybe
Speaker 1: we'll see.
Speaker 2: I don't have anything like I have one offs right now, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like little one off shows I've been doing like different
Speaker 2: ship Like.
Speaker 1: I just like.
Speaker 2: I've been happening like accidentally into acting opportunities because I'm
Speaker 2: like bald and salted, So I bet you can get
Speaker 2: all the fucking type cast rules exactly. I just like
Speaker 2: I was down in Mexico. I shot like for some
Speaker 2: Netflix show and.
Speaker 1: Oh fire, what part of Mexico?
Speaker 2: Uh sada Maqiso's Mexico City.
Speaker 1: I want to go to Mexico City. You never been.
Speaker 1: Just the best fucking city in the world. I've heard.
Speaker 1: It's so good. I want to go and just eat
Speaker 1: through the foods fire. It's the best out of culture art,
Speaker 1: the best food I've ever had. I think the more
Speaker 1: than where I think about it. Mexico or Puerto Rico
Speaker 1: might be the play man. Now Mexico City, bro, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you know, I'm talking about like to live, Oh,
Speaker 1: Mexico City. Yeah for sure. I'm like, yo, what what
Speaker 1: am I doing? Like, I mean, obviously I have my
Speaker 1: career here, m hmm. But if like this shit, I'm
Speaker 1: super off America right now.
Speaker 2: Take that big ass cyber truck down.
Speaker 1: Find charging stations on the way. Well, I've never been
Speaker 1: to Puerto Rico either. Oh, I mean you can't. You can't.
Speaker 1: But I heard if you go to Puerto Rico you
Speaker 1: don't have to pay US tax.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you get all the benefits of the US dollar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what all the YouTubers are doing. Jake, Paul Logan, Paul,
Speaker 1: those fuckers got houses out there. I hope he fights
Speaker 1: Tyson gets knocked the fuck out. The problem is is
Speaker 1: I hope so too, But I feel like he'd be Tyson.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like we can't just forget
Speaker 1: that Tyson is like an old old guy. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: like Jake Paul like trains and he's young and like
Speaker 1: he's not like a great boxer, but he's like a
Speaker 1: good boxer. Yeah, and he has all the virality of youth,
Speaker 1: like vitality express me. But I would hope Mike Tyson
Speaker 1: knocks him the fuck out me to It would be
Speaker 1: amazing that guy. God, thank god. Yeah, him and his
Speaker 1: brother can go fuck off. Yeah, that'd be tight to
Speaker 1: see him. Just Logan's podcast, but I hate his And
Speaker 1: he's a good wrestler. He's actually he's good in WW.
Speaker 1: I like Logan a lot more than Paul Paul's Jake
Speaker 1: is unbearably annoying. Have you seen all these new videos
Speaker 1: of these rappers going on on streams catching pedophiles.
Speaker 2: I've seen like I think today, I one, bro, what
Speaker 2: the fuck is this?
Speaker 1: Do you remember vitally the rushing guy ye to do
Speaker 1: all the internet rings. So he goes on like kick
Speaker 1: and streams where he runs up and they set up
Speaker 1: like pedophiles, right, like with decoys with figs or whatever
Speaker 1: and boys, and uh then he'll like embarrass like, so
Speaker 1: they did it to some dude in they might have
Speaker 1: been here or Miami, and they fucking socked this fool
Speaker 1: and he fell and cracked his head. So now he
Speaker 1: hired his own security to make sure they don't kidnap
Speaker 1: these fools and that the rappers don't fuck him up.
Speaker 1: So like he was catching pedophiles with YG the other day,
Speaker 1: which is so.
Speaker 2: Crazy, catching pedophiles of YG. Just that phrase I never
Speaker 2: thought of. We hear that in my fucking life.
Speaker 1: But like, you know, like these fools are trying to
Speaker 1: beat up this pedophile. Yeah, they shame them and now
Speaker 1: their faces out there. So to me, that's like at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like they give the information
Speaker 1: to the cops, if the cops do something, they do something.
Speaker 1: They we're in California's they probably won't but right, but
Speaker 1: now they're out there. But it's fucking wild. Like bro,
Speaker 1: they had yesterday, they did it a little pump. Oh god,
Speaker 1: there's a real piece of shit. And uh, they made
Speaker 1: the pedophile dude. They said, hey, we won't call the cops,
Speaker 1: which you have to eat this hot chip. So they
Speaker 1: gave him a hot chip.
Speaker 2: Oh that's the video I saw.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they're shaving his head and they're like
Speaker 1: say sorry to the chat, I'm sorry Chat, And it
Speaker 1: was just like, I mean them dudes deserve it. They
Speaker 1: deserve a lot worse. But it's just crazy that, Like
Speaker 1: your content's wild right now.
Speaker 2: Bro, I mean that's just honestly, like, yes, pedophiles deserve it,
Speaker 2: but that's like the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard
Speaker 2: in my life. Like, fucking do something else with the pedophiles.
Speaker 2: Don't fucking use it to further your own fucking right
Speaker 2: Internet status. Like it's so fucking stupid.
Speaker 1: Right, I just think that, Like I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think vitalis intentions are pure obviously exactly go
Speaker 1: viral and and look at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: if him going viral means we know who a pedophile is,
Speaker 1: now cool, uh yeah. But it's like it's just like that,
Speaker 1: it's like you walk that weird line where it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: this content these days is bro, he's paying these rappers
Speaker 1: like two three hundred thousand dollars to do this shit.
Speaker 1: That's so fucking weird. Like he said, we paid Quabo
Speaker 1: three hundred k, gave him the deposit, and Quava never
Speaker 1: showed up. No, it's wild, bro, But who the fuck?
Speaker 2: Like that's weird, Like it's just that's like this, that's
Speaker 2: the weirdest fucking thing I've ever heard. Like we're gonna
Speaker 2: go catch pedophiles and film it like with rappers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1: It's like a really crazy version of Uh, what's that
Speaker 1: show called to Catch a Predator? Yeah? Like what the fuck?
Speaker 1: I guess it's not any different than that. No, it's not.
Speaker 2: You just have a little it's like celebrity death matchmates
Speaker 2: to Catch a I'm.
Speaker 1: I'm mad at it because I think it's it's it's
Speaker 1: dope to see them dudes exposed. It's like, yeah, well
Speaker 1: fuck you, Like yeah, like good now you could go
Speaker 1: home to your regular life and know your viral because
Speaker 1: you're a pederass, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, so, what happened with all the predators that
Speaker 2: were on to Catch a Predator?
Speaker 1: Whatever? What happened that result when they would leave, Remember
Speaker 1: they get arrested and then I think sometimes they would
Speaker 1: give an update, but sometimes the dudes would kill themselves
Speaker 1: and fuck them. Fuck them.
Speaker 2: They're trash and you can't like rehabilitate, Like I know
Speaker 2: there are a lot of repolitate that ship. No, people
Speaker 2: are like, oh, castraate them. It's not about it's not
Speaker 2: a it's not a crime of sexual gratification. You know
Speaker 2: you're not doing it to fuck it?
Speaker 1: Yo. Did you ever see the Louis c K stand
Speaker 1: up bed on SNL? Which one it is? He did
Speaker 1: this on as a monologue on Saturday Night Live. Louis
Speaker 1: c K was like, we need to start selling children's
Speaker 1: sex dolls, like and everyone's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3: He's like no, He's like, you don't understand these pedophiles.
Speaker 3: They want to fuck kids, so at least if they
Speaker 3: have a sick He said, what you want your kid
Speaker 3: to get fucked with the doll?
Speaker 1: Bro? Luis c K's fired one of my favorite stand ups.
Speaker 1: He's too bad. He went bad. He jerked off in
Speaker 1: a fucking chair. Yeah, he went on, he went out
Speaker 1: like a sucker. He got canceled, Yeah, but then he
Speaker 1: kind of.
Speaker 2: Got He's like low key back a little bit, a
Speaker 2: little back, a little back, and then can I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's weird, like once you get canceled, excuse me, once
Speaker 2: you get canceled, there's like a certain demographic that's never
Speaker 2: gonna stop fucking with you, and then there's another one
Speaker 2: that'll never fuck with you again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, man, I feel like we're on
Speaker 1: the other side of a cancel culture. I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: cancel culture because there's still people who do get canceled
Speaker 1: and should be canceled. But I agree. I think that
Speaker 1: we're on the other side of people being pussy right.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of that, right, Like you can't say
Speaker 2: shit every Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like, uh, you know. The New M
Speaker 1: and M album was the way he haunted the current
Speaker 1: state of the world was great because he was very
Speaker 1: he was talking about he was ALM, so he said
Speaker 1: saying a lot of.
Speaker 2: Words that people, oh yeah, that are taboo, right.
Speaker 1: But it was kind of like genius. Did you listen
Speaker 1: to them? And I haven't heard yet, fucking amazing. I
Speaker 1: heard it was good, like all them, best album probably
Speaker 1: since eminem Show. Yeah, I would put it in his
Speaker 1: top three or four. Okay, I'll check it out. A
Speaker 1: lot of people like Relapse. I couldn't get over the accent,
Speaker 1: but it is top tier I'm seeing on Relapse. But
Speaker 1: I mean, he's incredible, but yeah, no, it's great. But no,
Speaker 1: it's funny because he hid behind the fact that he
Speaker 1: was slim, shady for half the album, so you got
Speaker 1: to do it in twenty twenty four. So he's saying
Speaker 1: all this crazy shit about fucking and it's like, but
Speaker 1: it's a character. So it was kind of genius the
Speaker 1: way he did. And if you listen to a background,
Speaker 1: it's a good it's a great album. Honestly, it's probably
Speaker 1: might be my favorite album of the year. Low key. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll check it out for sure, check it out. So okay,
Speaker 1: so you got the album out now, uh rock album
Speaker 1: coming soon. I don't know whenever it's done. Yeah, who
Speaker 1: do you working with on that?
Speaker 2: So I got my homeboy Chris on the drums, he
Speaker 2: played drums, and good Charlotte, my homeboy Ricky on the guitar.
Speaker 2: He plays a guitar in a band called Ice nine Kills.
Speaker 2: And then my homie Ronnie, he plays bass for a
Speaker 2: band called Mammoth. And then the homie Alec who co
Speaker 2: wrote it with me, who's.
Speaker 1: Like a super dope producer. Fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's dope, like you said, like rage against the machine.
Speaker 2: It's some raginggainst the machine.
Speaker 1: Shit.
Speaker 2: I feel like very comfortable in this political space. I
Speaker 2: feel like that's like my strength and I strayed from
Speaker 2: it for too long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to get a Yeah, we need to
Speaker 1: get more political music right now, It's time, dude. It's
Speaker 1: like and like, listen, I'm talking about motherfucker's got a
Speaker 1: fucking just not be. We gotta stop carrying the fucking
Speaker 1: water for these for the left dog start calling out
Speaker 1: both sides. Bro, Like, I feel like hip hop has
Speaker 1: been just.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like hip you want to talk about
Speaker 2: people being pussy, rappers are pussy.
Speaker 1: They don't want to they don't want to rock the
Speaker 1: boat for sure.
Speaker 2: You know, nobody wants to speak out like the Look
Speaker 2: at what's happening in Gaza, right and nobody said ship there's.
Speaker 1: A very Oh yeah, nobody specifically. I mean, the biggest
Speaker 1: rapper in the world is Jewish. He's part Jewish drake.
Speaker 1: He was the only one who signed the ceasefire agreement.
Speaker 1: Oh he did, he did? Oh fuck? What about the
Speaker 1: other guy, the dj uh Kali It dude, Kaled's a
Speaker 1: fuck boy. He's a Palestinian. He's Palestinian posting.
Speaker 2: I saw yesterday he was posting fucking his refrigerator full
Speaker 2: of ice cream, You fat fuck while people are starving.
Speaker 1: You fat fuck you fat fuck. I just think that
Speaker 1: it'd be nice for people to just have an opinion.
Speaker 1: I didn't know Drake signed that he signed. Props to Drake.
Speaker 1: I got to give up love props to him. I
Speaker 1: had no idea. That's amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like he's the only one. I think
Speaker 2: Cole wore like a pen.
Speaker 1: Which I respect. Yeah, just like say something. People have
Speaker 1: fucking radio silent shots to Kailani Yehi been riding.
Speaker 2: I saw her at one of the marches. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: shouts to my brother Belly Belly, he's Palactini right, yeah,
Speaker 2: he is.
Speaker 1: His whole album that he just dropped. I think all
Speaker 1: the proceeds are going to God's Shots of the Weekend.
Speaker 1: Put his money where his mouth was, and it's donated
Speaker 1: two or three million dollars. J Lo just donated a
Speaker 1: bunch of money. Yeah for sure. I just think that
Speaker 1: that whole situation is like, it's the weirdest situation to me, bro.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't understand how people could look at it
Speaker 2: and not know what's going on.
Speaker 1: It's weird.
Speaker 2: Like even like people are like, well, we have to
Speaker 2: get rid of Hamas. Bro Hamas doesn't fucking exist in
Speaker 2: the West Bank.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's and and in the West Bank people
Speaker 1: are getting shot. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's like the same idea of soldiers are in
Speaker 2: the West Bank doing some gnarly ship.
Speaker 1: I saw Dave Dave Smith is a libertarian commentator. He
Speaker 1: just debated Chris Cuomo recently and it was really good
Speaker 1: debate online. Dave Smith was like, you know a lot
Speaker 1: of people who are like extreme only uh, outraged by racism.
Speaker 1: And when we say racism, like twenty twenty four versions
Speaker 1: of racism, don't understand that in the West Bank, the
Speaker 1: Palestinians are dealing with like nineteen fifty, nineteen forty five
Speaker 1: versions of what of racism. It's like, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, So it's like, but there's no outrage,
Speaker 1: no outrage, Like you could be outraged that Trump, you know,
Speaker 1: is insensitive or is culturally unaware to the things that
Speaker 1: he says and how they can come. I'm good for
Speaker 1: the blacks, Like it's not good that, you know, obviously
Speaker 1: he's he's fucking clueless, but it's like, yo, the like
Speaker 1: really that that's the one thing you know that I
Speaker 1: was hoping that that journalists interview where he was set
Speaker 1: with the three journalists on stage. Man, I was hoping
Speaker 1: that was going to bring up Gaza.
Speaker 2: Man, No, everybody's scared because even even the media, like
Speaker 2: on like an an institutional level, they can't talk about it.
Speaker 1: Like Speedy from Complex brought that ship up to Biden,
Speaker 1: which I thought was tight when he was like, are
Speaker 1: you are you a Zionist? Biden was probably like how
Speaker 1: yeah he was, and he was like, you know what
Speaker 1: a Zionist is, and Speedy was like, Sir, I asked
Speaker 1: the questions, I don't answer them.
Speaker 2: Nah fire. I was like, good job, Speedy, good shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean these politicians, you know, they have we have
Speaker 2: to hold their feet to the fire because at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, they're only looking out for a
Speaker 2: couple people's interests. And it's fucked up and like, you know,
Speaker 2: like people have conflated like anti Zionist, uh activism with
Speaker 2: like anti Semitism, and it's just fucking bullshit. Like dude,
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, I went to Temple. I
Speaker 2: wanted to be Jewish, you know, like I have no
Speaker 2: problem with I have.
Speaker 1: So many Jewish friends. Yeah, I have so many Jewish friends,
Speaker 1: Like I have a shit tongue, I mean like man.
Speaker 2: Like, but like, how do you look at people like
Speaker 2: running around in sandals, like fucking throwing like know Maltov
Speaker 2: cocktails at Like how do you look at that Like
Speaker 2: it's a fucking arm like an army, or like it's just.
Speaker 1: The way I look at it, right, is like you
Speaker 1: have to be absolutely ridiculously unrealistic to think that the
Speaker 1: current approach isn't creating a thousand more ham Hamases, and
Speaker 1: and and and a thousand more. Fact Like, dude, if
Speaker 1: someone murdered my family, my little sister, my mom m,
Speaker 1: I I would make it my life's mission to change that,
Speaker 1: avenge them in whatever way humanly possible. And I feel
Speaker 1: like that has been the United States for what we've
Speaker 1: done to Iraq with the drone strikes, with the people,
Speaker 1: I mean, with all the destabilizations of governments. Are we're
Speaker 1: just creating people who hate us. And we can call
Speaker 1: them terrorists all we want, but to us or to them,
Speaker 1: we are the terrorists for sure, for sure. And so
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, Belly's got a line in his
Speaker 1: early Leakers freestyle that always stuck with me. He said,
Speaker 1: hero villain is all perspective and it is. Man, It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like dog like the end of the day. Man.
Speaker 2: Well, when you're in where when you're talking about Hamasik,
Speaker 2: these are people that have been under like occupation for
Speaker 2: seventy plus years, right, So it's like, is it even
Speaker 2: a terrorist organization? Like I'm not answering the question, but
Speaker 2: like think critically here, you know, like yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Just think it's interesting, like you know, when people's water
Speaker 1: gets cut off and they weaponize the access to water
Speaker 1: and shit like that, and like it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, like if all of the you know, the
Speaker 1: United Nations has said that there's war crimes being committed
Speaker 1: in actually Jay, Yeah, it's like you know, all like
Speaker 1: at a certain point in time, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: why are we the only country? Well not the only country,
Speaker 1: but it's the big three, right, the US, the UKK
Speaker 1: they're not acknowledging what.
Speaker 2: They said they would arrest and Yahoo, the UK did
Speaker 2: you step foot in the country? Said that, So the
Speaker 2: US is really we're like on an island right now.
Speaker 2: As far as supporting this fucking genocide that's going.
Speaker 1: On, the UK said that, ye shout out to those
Speaker 1: bloody Bridge. Yeah, it's crazy and like, fuck it man,
Speaker 1: fuck Biden, Fuck Biden for sure, fuck Biden as a
Speaker 1: record label. On that note, for note, you don't have
Speaker 1: to vote for either of those fucks. No, vote your conscience.
Speaker 1: Vote your conscience and let the rest fall where it falls.
Speaker 1: Because they brainwash you into thinking you're throwing your vote away,
Speaker 1: which is why we only have two parties. Because people
Speaker 1: go to the poll and they think, well, this person
Speaker 1: has no chance to win, so I'm gonna vote. That's
Speaker 1: the whole problem. Yep, boom, my brother. Appreciate your brother.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Thank you right now. It always gets better.