WEBVTT - Atlanta, We Have a Problem! 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.000 I and this might be an unpopular opinion. I think 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:07.160 Kenya should move on from the Housewives of Atlanta, but. 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:09.040 Not for reasons that people that I love. 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:12.080 I love Kenya. She is one of the most strikingly 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:16.320 beautiful people I've ever seen. But every season, people it's 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:18.400 like they get on the show and they want to 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:21.920 take shots at Kenya. It's like it's become a storyline. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:22.479 At this point. 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:28.520 Stay tuned, We'll get into my conversation right after these 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:40.280 quick ads. Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:44.760 Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and one of 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:49.839 the most sought after executive producers in reality television with 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.960 over ten years of production experience. 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:55.400 Twice a week on Reality with. 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.520 The King, we'll sit down with my friends across the 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:05.240 entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.440 moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.040 So rain drops today. 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.679 You know, look, I'm always in this chipper mood. I 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.840 get super thrilled to talk about all things reality television. 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:24.120 I'm not in the best mood today. 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:26.679 I'm scared to ask why not? Why you aren't in 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:27.240 the best mood? 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:29.840 I got some shocking news for you, Jazz Maine. 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.400 Are you ready for this when it comes to you know, 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.840 I'm never ready for shocking news when it comes from 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:36.560 Carlos King. 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.640 But as every other thing, I also don't have a choice. 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:43.440 So we got to get into one of the episodes, 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.840 most recent episodes, I should say, of the Real Housewives 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:53.280 of Atlanta and how it was by far the worst 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.160 episode I've ever seen in the show's franchise. 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:00.880 Wait, out of all five hundred million episodes of Atlanta, 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.120 you have identified a worst episode ever. 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.680 Absolutely, and I'm not listening. I'm not happy about. 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:09.840 It, Oh my gosh. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.560 But we have to discuss it because it was the 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:17.800 first time, Jazmine, that I watched an episode and I 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:23.040 literally had to turn off the TV right I did 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.040 not watch marthon Medicine, which we'll get into later, because 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.640 that show, Honey is having its best season. 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.079 To me, I love it so much. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.360 So it's not even about just like the state of 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:40.720 reality TV. I think it's the state of the Real 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:45.880 Housewives of Atlanta. So it's episode eleven of this season 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.760 and the episode title was Cabin Fever. Carlos King got 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.600 a fever fever watching the show. I was not feeling 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.919 good after watching that episode. I was in a very 0:02:56.960 --> 0:03:00.120 bad mood because it was sort of like, remember that 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:04.359 dance we used to do or game I should say, 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.480 in middle school and don't try. 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:07.440 Because I know you're twenty three. 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.960 I was a watched No. Twenty three. We're gonna run 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:12.000 with that one for real. 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.520 You reference middle school a lot, and it's like it 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:16.519 was a different time for me, baby, So you have 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.920 to let me know what the dance was that you 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.320 and your people were doing, don't. I don't even know 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:23.639 if I was able to dance yet. 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:31.000 The shade is real, guys, So remember that little tongue 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:32.400 as a tongo whatever? 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.160 How low can't you go? How low can't you go? 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:37.320 The limbo? 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:39.160 I think it's the limbo. 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:43.560 So I did not think this show could get lower 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.920 than what it was in episode twelve, gotcha. 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:47.760 I was wondering where we were going with that. 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:52.640 It was the lowest of lows. And before I get 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:53.080 into my. 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.360 Whole diatrop about it, do. 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.400 You at least agree with me somewhat about this Cabin 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.000 Fever episode being horrendous? 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.880 I will say I don't know that I would consider 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.760 it the worst episode in Real Housewives of Atlanta history. 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.880 What I will say, we are a far cry from 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.280 the golden days of Atlanta, and we have been for 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:17.840 a while. So I imagine it could feel like this entire 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:21.200 season is like what is really happening in Atlanta. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.280 But I don't know if I'm gonna agree with. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:24.760 You just here, because you still have the rest of 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:29.360 the season to get through and we're not looking good. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.520 I'll say that we ain't looking good right now. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:33.680 Instead of Houston, we. 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:38.200 Have a problem, Atlanta, we have a problem Jasmine. What 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:42.039 made this episode bad to me is because yes, we've 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.480 already talked about how the glory days of the Real 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:48.080 house Spots of Atlanta's gone. We talked about that after 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.560 me and Dave Quinn recap the premiere episode. I gave 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.839 the premiere episode a B plus because I saw potential 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:58.440 in what it could become. Marlow was becoming this force 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:02.680 to be reckoned with, force multiplier but a force to 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:07.320 be reckoned with, and two episodes of this season I 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:08.760 gave a pluses too. 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.040 So I've been very. 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:16.279 Generous in terms of my honesty about things that are good. 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.240 So I want to make sure that people know that 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:22.480 the reason why this episode was horrible to me is 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.480 because anytime. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.920 You have a cast trip. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.720 And marlow is going around acting like she paid for 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:33.200 the cabin, she paid for the cars. 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.719 Hold on, she didn't pay for any of that. Me, 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:36.920 as a viewer, I didn't know. 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.640 So let me explain this to you. 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:43.880 Anytime there's a cast trip, cast members are not paying 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:44.400 for it. 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:45.720 Production pays for it. 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.039 Okay, Okay, I have read that, and I'm sure the 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:52.000 listeners will agree. But I have also read that when 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:56.279 they have like these extravagant upgrades to their accommodations, that 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.080 the cast members have to pay the difference. So I 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.279 do think with in the cabin trip, I do feel 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.159 like I was assuming she paid for some of it. 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:05.320 No, she didn't pay for a thing. 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:09.440 And listen, it's always nice for a reality start, in 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.599 this case, a housewife to have ownership of the trip, 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.120 you know, like, this is my trip. 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.680 We're gonna do these events, all those things. 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.919 I think the problem that the viewers are having with 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.680 marlow is the fact that and listen, I've said Marlow's 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:25.520 the moment I said Marlowe is. 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.719 Saving the season. I still stand. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.680 By that, but it's like no one shows up to 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:36.000 work and wants to work. The fact that they allowed 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:41.159 three hours of these women standing outside of this rented 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:45.920 Airbnb cabin and arguing about who's going to be in 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.520 the Hughes car, and that nobody stood up and said 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.560 this is bullshit. Be cause my thing is this, I 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.080 have friends and we take trips in real life. 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.000 No one's sitting around for three hours. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.640 I don't know how your friends get down make y'all 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.280 are much younger than me, but I'm assuming. 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.000 Now we don't send around for three hours. But that's 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.560 because we also actually like each other when we travel, 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.160 so there's never any friction of that magnitude. But I 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.400 do think here's the thing with that scene. I think 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.560 it's showed just how petty Marlow is willing to be, 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:22.559 which is kind of like essential to telling the story 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.880 of this beef that she has with Kenya. It feels 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.760 very lopsided at this point because you can clearly tell 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:31.160 that like, Kenya isn't really into it like that, but 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:35.000 Marlow has so much vitriof for Kenya that it's coming 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.920 across very dirty. It is coming, like you said, it 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:42.360 is coming across very low, and it's leaving us as 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.160 viewers to wonder, like why it feels like it's a 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.640 lot deeper, right, Like she's using any instance of Kenya 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.400 pissy hoop just a little bit to really dig deep. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.200 And I think we're all wondering, like, why exactly are 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.240 you so hell bent on beefing with Kenya? Is it 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.760 for a storyline? Do you really have some deep seated 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:03.160 hate tred for this woman? Like is it jealousy? 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:03.840 What is it? 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:03.960 Like? 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:04.880 We all want to know. 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:06.520 I think it's a lot of those things. 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.160 To be honest with you, I think at the end 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:09.880 of the day, Marlowe really wants. 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:10.640 To be friends with Kenya. 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.880 I agree, marlow is very sensitive, and when she was 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.400 on Reality with the King, I said that to her, 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:22.520 like you're very sensitive. Marlowe really wants Kenya to respect 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.440 her as a peach holder. That's what all this is, guys. 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:30.480 What you guys are watching, is Marlowe really trying to 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.280 tell Kenya, I'm meant to be here and you need 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:38.080 to respect me. And because we live now in reality TV, 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.840 which is why now we're breaking the fourth wall on 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.920 love and marriage Huntsville, we're breaking the fourth wall on. 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:44.680 Love and marriage DC. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.480 The fact that we open up the show saying, we 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.800 open up the show saying Monique Samuels is from Potomac 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.280 Housewives and this is her second chance at reality TV, 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.880 because we weren't going to fool the audience like, oh, 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.800 I'm from DC and I'm married to this former bro bod, 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.120 You're from Potomac, So we lean into that. So I 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.440 wish we could have leaned into marlow telling Kenya like, 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.040 I feel like you don't respect me as a peachholder. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.560 You've been allegedly hating on me getting a peach. I 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:17.000 have one, I have a trip. You don't want to 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.000 give me my flowers? And listen, y'all know. I love 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.920 Kenya and the ground she walks on. I do believe 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:24.960 a part of what was happening on the trip was 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:29.160 Kenya just doesn't like marlow And I don't think Kenya 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:33.160 believes that Marlowe deserves to be on the same stage 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.800 as she, and that's what we've been watching for this 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.199 past twelve, thirteen, fourteen episodes. 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:39.560 I agree, but I don't know. 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.960 I partially agree the way back that Marlowe feels and 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.600 talks to and just always tries to dig at Kenya. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.760 It feels like it's so much more personal than just 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.600 her not respecting her as a peachholder. I feel like, 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:55.120 if they weren't on the Real Housewives of Atlanta, I 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.719 think marlow just wants she wants Kenya's approval just as 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.040 a human being. I think think Marlowe feels like her 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:02.840 and Kenya come from the same type of place. They 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.840 both have really strange relationships with their mother, right, they 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:09.079 were raised by other people. They're you know, around the 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:13.560 same age. I think that more than anything, marlow sees 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.440 herself in Kenya, But I think she doesn't believe that 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.959 Kenya's respects her as a person. I think Marlowe feels 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.960 inadequate when it comes to Kenya, and because of that, 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.280 she really wants Kenya to accept her and like her 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.720 as a contemporary, and I think she thinks that Kenya 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:29.440 looks down on her. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:33.280 It begs the question, what does another season look like 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.000 if that's going to be the case, Because Kenya has 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:43.640 said publicly that Marlowe said things about Kenya's child that 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:45.520 they did not air because it. 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:46.400 Was that bad. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:47.559 Are you serious? 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:51.160 Oh? Yeah, So that's the issue. 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.760 And when people want to talk about editing whatever, you know, 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.880 cast members love to bring that up even on my shows. 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:02.120 I will say, at least for that particular episode, Well, 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.920 what have helped is if Kenya could have sent her 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:09.240 confessionals Marlowe just said something super discussing about my child 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.920 and I'm done, So that way we could understand why 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:16.079 she was so held bent on not being around her 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:19.920 or messing with her. But because a, we are being 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:23.640 fool that you pay for this trip Marlowe. B there's 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:27.080 like Jasmin said, there's something deeper to this relationship that 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.920 you guys aren't talking about. And three we now know 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:36.559 that Marlowe allegedly says something super horrible about Brooklyn, where 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:40.640 Kenya said publicly, there's nothing for me and Marlowe to 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:42.360 ever talk about ever again. 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:43.480 That's how bad it was. 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:47.000 Is there a future of this show with Marlowe and 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:50.800 Kenya if Kenya refuses to ever give marlow the time 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:51.240 of day. 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.520 I don't think so. I and this might be an 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:56.360 unpopular opinion. I think Kenya should move on from the 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.920 Housewives of Atlanta, but not for reasons. 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:01.720 I love Kenya. 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.600 She is one of the most strikingly beautiful people I've 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:08.600 ever seen. But every season people it's like they get 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.439 on the show and they want to take shots at Kenya. 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.560 It's like it's become a storyline at this point. Who 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.440 can be with Kenya? Like you all come for the 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.680 same things with her, Like she doesn't have a man 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.439 her butt like all of this, and it's like still 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.200 it feels stale to me at this point, and it 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.920 feels like they're just doing it because it's low hanging fruit. 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:31.360 Not that Kenya is low hanging fruit, but there are 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:32.920 a lot of these things that they feel like they 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.240 can say about her because she plays the villain role, right, 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.200 So I think Kenya should move on from the show 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.280 and let them find somebody else to play with because 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:42.160 they're playing. 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:42.559 With my girl. 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.800 And I really don't like it, because while Kenya presents 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.400 as a strong woman, I know that all of these 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.720 things can be good on her mental health. Like she's 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.240 going through a really tumultuous divorce with her husband who 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.520 is the father of her child. And then you are 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.600 telling me that Marlo says something about her child. How 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:01.680 much or can you get? And how much more can 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.319 this woman take? I don't like seeing people just getting 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.320 beat up on like that. And she she holds her 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.640 own don't get me wrong, she holds her on and 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.560 I think throughout the seasons we've seen her really play 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.960 up this villain role, and like there have been times 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.000 with Kenya Wro, I'm like, no, you totally deserve that 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:19.280 read or that argument was justified. But at this point, 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.960 it feels like people come on here and their direct 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.080 line is to try to fuck with Kenya, and I don't. 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:26.320 I'm not a fan of that part. 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.560 So if Marlowe stays, I think Kenya should move on 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.960 because it's going to be another season of Marlowe trying 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:32.880 to get under kenya skin. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:34.120 And I don't want to keep seeing that. 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:39.000 God you just I mean, I think your comment is 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:39.640 way more. 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:41.480 They're my. 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:44.600 But I love Kenya. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.920 I would love to see her on something else where 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:50.520 people aren't constantly trying to like tear her down every scene. 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:52.920 I would love to keep seeing her. 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.320 But I don't like what's happening with Atlanta and how 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:56.360 they're they're doing her. 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:57.080 It's not fair. 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.360 And like you said, one thing about Kenya and the 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.240 reason why she was number four on the Greatest Houseflies 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.520 of All Time list of mine is because, like you said, 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:06.480 she's a fun villain. 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.520 She makes mistakes. There's been times I'm. 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.559 Like, Kenya, you tried it, but she owns it and 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.560 she apologizes and she keeps it moving because she wants 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:16.360 to make a great show. 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:20.680 Wow. Oh I didn't guys, I didn't know she was 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:21.240 going to say that. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.640 I'm actually gagging, but I'm trying to collect my thoughts, 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:25.440 like how collect my coins? 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:29.680 So, look, do you think Marlow should get another seasons? Pog? 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:32.120 I want to. 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.280 This is why I love talking to Jazz because she 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.080 and I like Yin and Yang. I was going to 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.600 ask you that are you saying, because girl, are you 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:44.000 saying that you would prefer have the show continue without 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.960 Kenya or would you like it to continue without Marlow? 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.040 Oh? That's that's tough. 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:54.560 That's tough because had I not known that Marlo said 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:58.160 something about Brooklyn Kingya's daughter, I don't know if I 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.400 would feel that strongly about maybe us not seeing her 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:05.000 full time next season. But like when you talk about 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.400 people's children, a baby, like kids are off limits and 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.320 if you said something that was so vile that it 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.840 could not be aired, that is not shade to me. 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:15.560 That's that is evil. 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.800 That is just low for even reality TV like you 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.960 need to go over to I don't know Zeus or something, 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.800 and this is all like I going into this season, 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.600 I was really happy to see Marlowe right, and I 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.800 think marlow can provide a really good TV. But I 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:30.160 think she said it when she was on your show. 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.640 She's like, I can't read, so I go low and 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.680 I go for the jugular. But there was a time 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:39.880 when Atlanta as much shade as they as shady as 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:41.960 they have been, there was a time when like this 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:46.160 would be considered too low brow. I think to talk 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.800 about somebody's children and child in that way, and I 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.280 know there's been comments, Like Nini talked about Kim's kids 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.320 like they have there have been comments, but those kids 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.800 were grown. If I'm not mistaken her, no me. 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.560 When Nini spoke about Brille, Brielle was over the age 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.160 of eighteen, and Nini Mimi brought her up because Brielle 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.200 alleged that Nini had cockroaches in her house, and then 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:07.120 Nini went in. 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:12.640 I'm not gonna repeat, she said, but nieddie and she 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.040 felt like, you're over the age of eighteen, so I 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:15.440 could go. 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:19.480 In, right, So when you're over eighteen, you are an adult. Okay, 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.280 so you might catch a stray or two, but baby, 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.360 come on now, Marlowe. And like I said, I was 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.920 really excited for Marlowe. I think she had some really 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.320 good moments even this season, Like you had a whole 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.480 episode about how she is a moment. But hearing that, 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:34.800 I'm just like, I don't know that. I want somebody 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.240 want to watch someone who's willing to go that low. 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.280 Yeah, and I think it's an opportunity for marlow to 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.680 grow and listen, I don't know what she said exactly, 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:47.280 so everything is speculation, but I do think at the 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.840 end of the day, one thing I've always known about 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:53.120 those women working with them since season one. They had 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:57.200 one cardinal rule that kids are off limits, and marlow 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.720 if you're listening, I think at the end of the day, 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.720 you should apologize to Kenya if you said something about 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:04.280 her child. 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.000 Again, it's all speculation. 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.200 I'm basically this off of what Kenya said in other interviews, 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.040 But I do agree with you jas when in terms 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.439 of I just don't know what the future of the 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.440 show can be with those two coexisting. Unless there's a 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.800 heartfelt apology at the reunion, that's what's going to be 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:23.640 needed in order for them to move on. 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.280 But I want to ask my brain drops. 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.000 And I want you guys to tweet me hashtag Reality 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:29.520 with the King. 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.400 I have a question, who would you choose. 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:36.639 To move on with the show? Kenya or Marlowe? Do 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.840 you guys think both can coexist? And if not, who 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:44.080 should stay? Who should leave? Between Kenya and Marlowe? Let 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.680 us know and make sure you hashtag Reality. 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:48.080 With the King. 0:17:49.880 --> 0:18:01.760 We'll be right back after some quick ads. This is 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:07.120 Reality with the King. We got to talk about a 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:08.240 dog with a bone. 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:13.240 Drew, you know what, Drew is? 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:20.600 Eleven forty five PM. Okay, late, honey, very late, very 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:25.960 very late. It feels so forced to me at this point. Girl, 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:29.080 you brought props, Like you know, we're in we're reality 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.720 TV fanatics. We're not opposed to a good prop, but 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.600 it just felt so extra and so force, like you 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.840 were really trying to have a moment and she did it, 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:38.240 and I was looking at my TV like, you know, 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:40.840 I should turn this shit off right now because at 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.920 this point, what I'm watching a I'm watching a musical. 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.040 I'm watching some type of like urban. 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:50.680 Music. I'm watching that Mother's Love. 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:55.400 Okay, that's it was giving very like I'm I'm acting, 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:57.920 I'm giving you stage flight, like I just I wasn't 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.400 feeling that moment at all. It was it was way 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:03.320 too much like And here's the thing about Drew. I 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.840 think Drew has a lot of potential, but she just 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:11.359 does the most. She does the most, and it makes 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.920 it really hard to root for a character when I 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.560 feel like, every time the camera is on you, you're like, 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:18.680 how can I get a moment? 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:20.320 How can I become iconic? 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.600 You become an icon by just really being yourself, not 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.639 being over the top the way that Drew has been like, 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:31.600 and she's so pretty. I think she has a beautiful voice, 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.320 she has a nice family, Like there are so many 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:37.320 other things about Drew that you can stand for, but 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:39.520 she's trying to make us stand her as it's like 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:43.360 super shady. I know how to read down and it's 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:45.840 always feeling forced. But I will say this, that moment 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:51.719 in the season when Sonya or Sanya go ahead, right 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:54.639 when she was just doing the most about Drew, she 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:56.840 made me go over to drew side because I was like, Mama, 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:00.159 you are being so unlikable right now that I'm I 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:01.800 have to root for Drew in this moment because she 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:04.000