WEBVTT - Tech News: The Epic Apple vs Epic Fight Continues

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech stuff, a production from I heart radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I heart radio,

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<v Speaker 1>and how the Tech Are you? It's time for the

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<v Speaker 1>Tech News for Tuesday, September. Two. The epic battle between

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<v Speaker 1>Apple and epic Games continues, and now the U S

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice is waiting in all right, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>recap the story so far. Apple has a policy that

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<v Speaker 1>any APP that allows in APP purchases must use apple's

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<v Speaker 1>own payment system, and that means that apple gets a

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<v Speaker 1>slice of the PIE, which, ironically, is not apple pie,

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<v Speaker 1>but instead key line pie epic games. The producers of

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<v Speaker 1>fortnite sidestepped this process by suggesting two players on I

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<v Speaker 1>os devices that they use a little work around that

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<v Speaker 1>would allow the players to purchase credits directly from epic

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<v Speaker 1>games and outside the Apple System, and then use those

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<v Speaker 1>in the IOS game. That would give epic the entire Pie,

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<v Speaker 1>slice of key line. Apple responded swiftly by removing fortnite

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<v Speaker 1>from the APP store and prevented anyone from download to

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<v Speaker 1>get further, although folks who had already had it were

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<v Speaker 1>just fine, and it kind of escalated from there. What

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<v Speaker 1>followed was a lawsuit in which epic argued that Apple's

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<v Speaker 1>approaches anti competitive, that locking developers into this ecosystem was

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<v Speaker 1>inherently unfair. And this is something, by the way, that

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing play out in courts all over the world

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<v Speaker 1>right now, with different people coming forward, to different companies

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<v Speaker 1>coming forward to say apple's approaches inherently unfair. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>initial courts decision was a bit of a muddled affair.

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<v Speaker 1>Neither epic nor apple was entirely happy about it, so

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<v Speaker 1>both sides appealed the decision. Now, interestingly, apple one more

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<v Speaker 1>than it lost, because the court decided that apple doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>constitute a monopoly, at least not in this case, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of understandable in the sense that fortnite can

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<v Speaker 1>be played on just about any platform, possibly even your refrigerators.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's hard to point at this and have a

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<v Speaker 1>court understand that this potentially constitutes anti competitive behavior. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the court did rule that apple cannot prevent APPs from

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<v Speaker 1>offering links to alternative payment systems in their APPs, and

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<v Speaker 1>apple really didn't like that. They don't want that to

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<v Speaker 1>happen because the company has really been transforming into more

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<v Speaker 1>of a services oriented company after being a hardware focused

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<v Speaker 1>company for decades. This brings us to what's going on now.

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<v Speaker 1>An appeals court is preparing to hear arguments from all

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<v Speaker 1>sides about the original decision, and the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>and the State of California have both secured a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of time to present some arguments to the court. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the D O J is not allowed to take sides

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<v Speaker 1>per se, but the agency hopes to prove that the

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<v Speaker 1>lower court's decisions about apple not being a monopoly were

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<v Speaker 1>shortsighted that apple had in fact violated antitrust laws such

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<v Speaker 1>as the Sherman Act. The D O J says that

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<v Speaker 1>the lower courts interpretation sets a disastrous precedent that weakens

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<v Speaker 1>antitrust law, particularly in the digital landscape, and that this

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be corrected so that the US government has

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to enforce antitrust laws and prevent any company

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<v Speaker 1>from becoming an unimpeachable monopoly. Complicating matters is that the

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<v Speaker 1>D O J is ramping up its own antitrust lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>against Apple, so it will be important for the lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>to present their case in a way that doesn't come

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<v Speaker 1>across as biased. The State of California, meanwhile, is going

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<v Speaker 1>to present arguments on how the court should treat the

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<v Speaker 1>state's Consumer Protection Law, called the unfair competition law, within

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<v Speaker 1>the context of this lawsuit. The Washington Post reports that

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<v Speaker 1>US Customs has been maintaining a database filled with travelers

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<v Speaker 1>electronic data, some of which dates back fifteen years now.

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<v Speaker 1>It has long been an issue that people entering the US,

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<v Speaker 1>including US citizens returning to America, have sometimes been prompted

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<v Speaker 1>to hand over customs access to their electronic devices. Now

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<v Speaker 1>U S courts have, for some reason deemed this as

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<v Speaker 1>being acceptable. Honestly, I think this very much ranks as

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<v Speaker 1>unreasonable search and seizure, which is something the constitution is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to protect us against. Anyway, there's no legal reason

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<v Speaker 1>anyone should have to hand over their log and credentials

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<v Speaker 1>to their devices, and finding out that customs has been

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<v Speaker 1>downloading and storing this information for more than a decade

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<v Speaker 1>is a huge red flag. What's worse, the Post reports

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<v Speaker 1>that essentially any employee of the agency can access any

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<v Speaker 1>of that data. So imagine for a moment that you

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<v Speaker 1>are returning to the United States and that you are

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<v Speaker 1>coerced into handing your phone over to customs agents and

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<v Speaker 1>you are further prompted to unlock your phone and then

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<v Speaker 1>they download everything that's on your phone, all without due cause.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't done anything wrong, or at the very least

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't done anything to warrant this kind of a search.

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<v Speaker 1>And now they have all of the Dat on your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>all your contacts, all your calendar appointments, all of your

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<v Speaker 1>location history, your browsing history, your photos, your documents, everything

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<v Speaker 1>that was on that device has been downloaded and anyone

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<v Speaker 1>within the agency has the capability of potentially accessing it.

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<v Speaker 1>That is unthinkable, right? I mean it doesn't take much

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<v Speaker 1>imagination to come up with dozens of terrible scenarios where

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<v Speaker 1>this could become a problem. Like blackmail alone is a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible possibility. More than that, other agencies like the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>can request and get access to this kind of database

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<v Speaker 1>and it starts to sound a lot like a dystopian

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<v Speaker 1>authoritarian state. U S Senator Ron Widen sent a letter

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<v Speaker 1>to the agency last week raising concerns about this practice

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<v Speaker 1>and saying it amounts to unfair search and seizure on

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<v Speaker 1>American citizens. Whether anything will actually be done about this

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<v Speaker 1>policy or if some court case finally escalates the issue

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<v Speaker 1>so that the Supreme Court weighs in, hopefully to curtail

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<v Speaker 1>the practices again. Seems like a pretty clear cut violation

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<v Speaker 1>of the fourth amendment to the Constitution. All of that

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<v Speaker 1>remains to be seen. A couple of weeks ago, I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about how twitter had cleaned house by deleting a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of body accounts. They're all pushing propaganda, and while

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<v Speaker 1>that in itself isn't that unusual, in this particular case

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<v Speaker 1>the propaganda promoted the United States and its policies in

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<v Speaker 1>places like Russia and China. Now we often hear about

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<v Speaker 1>coordinating the campaigns meant spread misinformation within the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>and often these campaigns originate out of countries like China

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<v Speaker 1>and Russia, but it's kind of odd to hear about

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite. And now the Pentagon has ordered a review

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<v Speaker 1>of information warfare operations that rely upon social network platforms

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<v Speaker 1>like twitter and Meta across all military branches. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Under Secretary for policy at the Department of Defense, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy named Colin Call, has told all the branches of

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<v Speaker 1>the military that have these kind of operations that they

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<v Speaker 1>have to provide a full report on the scope, scale

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<v Speaker 1>and techniques of those programs by next month, at least

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<v Speaker 1>according to The Washington Post. I think the concern here

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's really bad optics for the US to

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<v Speaker 1>engage in similar tactics that Russia and China are using

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<v Speaker 1>while at the same time the US government has slammed

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<v Speaker 1>social networks for allowing these kind of things to proliferate

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<v Speaker 1>here in the United States. Ends up looking more than

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit hypocritical. Now, maybe the military opts relying

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<v Speaker 1>on these approaches would argue that the narrative they are

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<v Speaker 1>pushing isn't misinformation. Sure, it puts the US and its

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<v Speaker 1>policies in a positive light, but maybe they argued, this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't lying, it's just it's just giving part of the

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<v Speaker 1>story that they otherwise don't get. However, I suspect folks

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<v Speaker 1>in Russia and China would say pretty much the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing about what's going on here and anyway, it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see what comes of this. Now propaganda has

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<v Speaker 1>long been a well used and reliable tool around the

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<v Speaker 1>world to spread specific messages and points of view, so

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if we're going to see the government create

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a framework within which it might be okay

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<v Speaker 1>to use that capability within the digital world. If not,

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<v Speaker 1>one makes the digital world different from, say, dropping physical

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<v Speaker 1>pamphlets from an aircraft onto areas in an effort to

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<v Speaker 1>spread similar messages? That's something the United States has done

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<v Speaker 1>frequently throughout its history, sending messages to citizens in places

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<v Speaker 1>where they can't get access to information in other ways.

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<v Speaker 1>We've made use of those tactics in the past. So

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of raises the question if that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>thing is wrong in the digital space, why? Like, what

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<v Speaker 1>is it that makes it different? These are complicated questions

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't pretend to have the answers. I do

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<v Speaker 1>find it fascinating, however. Something else that is, I hesitate

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<v Speaker 1>to use Laura, fascinating but certainly captivating, is an article

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<v Speaker 1>that I read in Rolling Stone magazine. It is titled

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<v Speaker 1>How many women were abused to make that Tesla, and

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<v Speaker 1>the article goes into detail about the work culture at Tesla,

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<v Speaker 1>the electric vehicle company, as well as Elon Musk's personal

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<v Speaker 1>history with, quote unquote, fratish behaviors from the article, and

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<v Speaker 1>also how seven women have brought lawsuits against Tesla alleging

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<v Speaker 1>sexual harassment the story even goes beyond Tesla and mentions

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<v Speaker 1>how spacex engineer Ashley Kozak wrote about similar issues over

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<v Speaker 1>at SPACEX, another Elon Musk company. I recommend this article.

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<v Speaker 1>I will warn you it has a lot of extremely

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<v Speaker 1>upsetting information and allegations in it, but if those allegations

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<v Speaker 1>are true, it really paints the corporate culture of Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>and other musk companies in a really terrible light, akin

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<v Speaker 1>to the kind of stories we heard coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>gaming companies like activision blizzard and before that UBI soft

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<v Speaker 1>and before that the stuff we heard coming out of Uber.

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<v Speaker 1>For many people out there, news that companies in the

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<v Speaker 1>tech sector have a particularly ugly problem with Misogyny and

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<v Speaker 1>sexual harassment is going to come as no surprise. Right

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<v Speaker 1>this is old news, in fact. I'm sure there are

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<v Speaker 1>listeners of this show who have either experienced or witnessed

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<v Speaker 1>something on those lines at companies in the tech sector.

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<v Speaker 1>But pieces like this indicate that companies really do need

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<v Speaker 1>to work harder at stamping out these kinds of culture

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<v Speaker 1>and that shareholders should demand more from the companies that

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<v Speaker 1>they invest in. I mean, it's a bad investment ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>because sooner or later the cards come crashing down. You

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<v Speaker 1>would rather invest in a company that has a supportive

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<v Speaker 1>and healthy culture and not one that's predatory. I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least I'm sure for listeners of this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>They're probably people out there who really don't care as

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<v Speaker 1>long as they get a return on the investment, but

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't listen to this show. Right. Okay, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>some more news stories to get to. Before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to that, let's take a quick break. We're back over

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<v Speaker 1>in the European Union, courts upheld a ruling that says

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<v Speaker 1>Google must pay a truly annoyed or miss fine of

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<v Speaker 1>about four point one to billion dollars. Now, to be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually a reduction of the original find. The original

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<v Speaker 1>find from the first court case was closer to four

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<v Speaker 1>point three billion dollars. So Google got a deal, they

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<v Speaker 1>got a break. It's just four point one two billion.

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<v Speaker 1>Now all of this actually stems from a case that

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<v Speaker 1>was originally filed back in two thousand and fifteen, in

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<v Speaker 1>which the European Commission ruled that Google was engaged in

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<v Speaker 1>anti competitive practices with the android operating system, essentially saying

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<v Speaker 1>Google had actively taken advantage of its enormous installed base

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe. Something like of EU citizens have an android device,

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<v Speaker 1>and they forced every android device out there to have

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<v Speaker 1>apps like chrome and search pre installed on them, and

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<v Speaker 1>that this ended up giving Google and unfair advantage in

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<v Speaker 1>those areas, because competing search and browsers were, uh, not

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<v Speaker 1>pre installed. The original decision was handed down in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand eighteen, so the case began in t the decision

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<v Speaker 1>in the fine came in because, you know, justice moved swiftly,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, that meant that the original case took like

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<v Speaker 1>three years to resolve, but Google then appealed the decision.

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<v Speaker 1>It took another four years for the appeal to work

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<v Speaker 1>its way through the system and for courts to find

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<v Speaker 1>that Google still guilty and still needs to pay a fine,

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<v Speaker 1>although it's slightly lower than what it was originally. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we are now. So does this mean that

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<v Speaker 1>Google is going to have to cough up more than

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<v Speaker 1>four billion bucks? Not necessarily. Google can appeal this decision

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<v Speaker 1>as well, which would push the matter up to the

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<v Speaker 1>highest court in the EU, where perhaps it could get

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<v Speaker 1>a front decision or maybe the fine would be further reduced.

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<v Speaker 1>Will have to wait and see. Mozilla, conducted a study

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<v Speaker 1>on Youtube and found that the platforms tools for telling

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<v Speaker 1>Youtube that you don't like a particular video or you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to have similar content show up in your recommendations.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't work very well, those tools. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because I have noticed something similar in my own

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<v Speaker 1>use of Youtube, particularly recently. But you know, anecdotal evidence

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<v Speaker 1>isn't real evidence. So I never brought it up on

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<v Speaker 1>the show because I thought, well, this is just my experience.

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<v Speaker 1>What if it's an outlier? But in my case I

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<v Speaker 1>was watching a lot of video essays about different types

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<v Speaker 1>of things, including a ton about pop culture, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was really just, you know, critiques about different things like

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<v Speaker 1>movies or series, and really well thought out and well

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<v Speaker 1>researched arguments. But I noticed that some of the video

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<v Speaker 1>essays that were creeping into my recommendations weren't real video essays.

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<v Speaker 1>They were really just thinly veiled manifestos for right wing

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<v Speaker 1>talking points. Now, I am not a right wing person

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<v Speaker 1>by a long stretch. I'm sure this comes as no

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<v Speaker 1>surprise to anyone who's listening to me. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>me judging that point of view. Rather, it's just me

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<v Speaker 1>saying that's not my worldview or my philosophy, and in

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<v Speaker 1>most cases my opinions are almost the opposite of the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that was showing up in these videos that were

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<v Speaker 1>posing as critiques on pop culture. So I started tagging

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<v Speaker 1>those videos as don't recommend this channel to me because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to see them anymore. They weren't interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I didn't agree with the point of view.

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<v Speaker 1>I just found them frustrating. But then I would get

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<v Speaker 1>nearly identical videos. Now it might be a different channel

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<v Speaker 1>and a different host, but the videos contained the same

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<v Speaker 1>talking points, the same tactics of presenting right wing ideology

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<v Speaker 1>discusised as a video essay on pop culture, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just felt like I was constantly trying to knock down

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<v Speaker 1>one recommendation and I would just get a different one

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<v Speaker 1>that was essentially the same thing the next day. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Mozilla, my experience is by no means unique.

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<v Speaker 1>The organization used a tool to measure how effective youtube's

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<v Speaker 1>features are. The tool Mozilla used could track when viewers

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<v Speaker 1>were clicking on dislike, not interested, don't recommend channel and

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<v Speaker 1>remove from history to see how much of an effect

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<v Speaker 1>that had on the recommendations engine. Would it prevent similar

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<v Speaker 1>videos from popping up in the recommendations engine, or would

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<v Speaker 1>it not? And it found that hitting dislike would reduce

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<v Speaker 1>only twelve percent of bad recommendations in the future, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>that you would still get those kinds of videos. If

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<v Speaker 1>you clicked not interested, it was worse. It only prevented

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<v Speaker 1>eleven of similar material popping up and recommendations. If you

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<v Speaker 1>chose don't recommend channel, it was a little bit better,

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<v Speaker 1>but only up to forte so you're still less than

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<v Speaker 1>fifty of of reduction of those kinds of videos popping

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<v Speaker 1>up in your recommendations, and removing videos from history prevented

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<v Speaker 1>only of bad recommendations in the future. If you're wondering

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<v Speaker 1>how they came up with those numbers, they had a

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<v Speaker 1>control group that did not hit any of those dislike

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<v Speaker 1>features at all, and so what they were doing was

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<v Speaker 1>seeing how many similar videos were popping up in the

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<v Speaker 1>recommendations of someone who wasn't taking these measures versus people

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<v Speaker 1>who were, and that's how they got those reductions. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Youtube reps say that the recommendation engine doesn't automatically prevent

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<v Speaker 1>all similar material from popping up, largely to avoid creating

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<v Speaker 1>echo chambers, and that makes sense. I can agree with that. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want tools to end up funneling people into

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<v Speaker 1>very narrow points of view and then attentially escalating that

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<v Speaker 1>and creating extremists. That makes sense, but at least in

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<v Speaker 1>my case, it wasn't like I was getting videos that

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<v Speaker 1>had well reasoned arguments made in good faith in an

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to convince me that the point of view represented

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<v Speaker 1>in the video was a valid one. Instead, I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting videos that were reinforcing concepts that I fundamentally disagree with,

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<v Speaker 1>and they weren't supporting those concepts. It's not like they

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<v Speaker 1>were creating an argument to support the ideology. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just a repetition of those talking points anyway. The study

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<v Speaker 1>seems to show that Youtube does not prioritize user feedback,

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<v Speaker 1>which could explain why some people have a frustrating experience

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<v Speaker 1>when they're on the platform, me included. Both Uber and

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<v Speaker 1>rock star have been hit by hackers, possibly the same one,

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<v Speaker 1>and in Uber's case, the company has issued multiple statements

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<v Speaker 1>in the wake of the attack. They said that the

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<v Speaker 1>attack gained access to Uber's systems by compromising an Uber

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<v Speaker 1>e x t contractors account. Uber was able to detect

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<v Speaker 1>this intrusion. That's being kind, because they left messages, but

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<v Speaker 1>uber responded by locking out the account and a few

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<v Speaker 1>other accounts that could have been compromised, but they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't able to do this until after the attacker

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<v Speaker 1>had already gained access to numerous tools, which included them

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<v Speaker 1>gaining access to, and then posting within, the company's slack channel.

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<v Speaker 1>Hardly a low profile move. It's not the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing you do if you're trying to be super sneaky

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<v Speaker 1>and really embed yourself within a targets system. This is

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<v Speaker 1>something you do in order to make a point or

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<v Speaker 1>to needle a target or whatever. Now Uber is investigating

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<v Speaker 1>if there was any material impact to the company. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're looking into what, if any, information the attacker actually

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<v Speaker 1>accessed duringing this incident and maybe potentially downloaded. During the incident,

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<v Speaker 1>some of Uber's customer support features were disabled, but beyond that,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like the disruption wasn't that noticeable outside the company. Though, again,

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<v Speaker 1>until Uber has a better idea of what information the

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<v Speaker 1>attacker might have accessed and potentially copied, it's really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to judge how bad this attack was. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>attack itself was bad, because getting that level of access

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<v Speaker 1>is not great, but how damaging it was remains to

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<v Speaker 1>be seen. Uber is working with the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>and the FBI in an investigation into this and, as

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<v Speaker 1>it stands, the chief suspect for the attack was the

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<v Speaker 1>hacking group lapsus L A. P S U dollar sign,

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<v Speaker 1>which has been on quite the run this year, having

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<v Speaker 1>been named responsible for hacks into companies like Cisco and

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft and OCTA, among others. I mean these are companies

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<v Speaker 1>that are own for helping create a more secure environment

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<v Speaker 1>and they were targets of hacks by the same hacker group.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they mean serious business. Okay, we've got a

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<v Speaker 1>few more news items to talk about, but before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into that, let's take one more quick break. All right, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>by the time you hear this episode in video, will

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<v Speaker 1>have held an event to announce the next generation of

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<v Speaker 1>its gpus, or graphics processors. The code name for the

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<v Speaker 1>new processor architecture is love lace, which is after Ada lovelace,

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<v Speaker 1>the enchantress of numbers. So we expect that these new

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<v Speaker 1>processors are going to have a new kind of architecture

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<v Speaker 1>to make them more power efficient more powerful. That kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. Analysts expect that in video will announce a

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<v Speaker 1>new forty series of cards, like an r t x

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight. The current, you know, flagship gpus are the

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<v Speaker 1>R T X thirty eight and the thirty nine. So

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<v Speaker 1>we might be getting two different forty eighties and a

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<v Speaker 1>fort by by the rumor mill. By the time you

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<v Speaker 1>hear this, you'll know because the event will have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just google it with ethereum. Shifting to proof

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<v Speaker 1>of steak and an increased availability for graphics cards in general.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe this will mean that the most powerful cards in

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<v Speaker 1>the market will actually be something that gamers can more

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<v Speaker 1>easily get their hands on, if they have the cash.

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<v Speaker 1>That is. These cards frequently cost well over a thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them creep up to around two thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not the type of component for a budget Gamer,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's just the graphics card. That doesn't include any

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<v Speaker 1>of the rest of the computer. But maybe this will

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<v Speaker 1>also mean prices for the last generation of cards will

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<v Speaker 1>go down a little, because I would still love to

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<v Speaker 1>get my hands on a thirty eight. I. The computer

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<v Speaker 1>I use for gaming doesn't have anywhere close to the

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<v Speaker 1>of that thirty eight card. Anyway, I might do a

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<v Speaker 1>follow up on Thursday if the company reveals anything particularly

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<v Speaker 1>interesting the demand for university lester over in the UK

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<v Speaker 1>conducted a study in which researchers found that young children

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<v Speaker 1>are losing the equivalent of a full night's sleep each week.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're losing the equivalent of one night's sleep per

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<v Speaker 1>week because they're staying up to be on social media

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<v Speaker 1>on their various electronic devices. The study found that around

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<v Speaker 1>twelve point five of all ten year olds wake up

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the night in order to check notifications,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a big old yikes for me. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the big reasons I got off social media

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<v Speaker 1>was because I found myself bowing to the whims of notifications,

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<v Speaker 1>and over the last couple of years I've really made

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<v Speaker 1>an effort to reduce the number of notifications I get,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's personal or, much to my coworkers Chagrin, work related.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because I recognized that it was starting to harm

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<v Speaker 1>me to have notifications pop up all the time. It

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<v Speaker 1>was hurting my productivity, my creativity, my mental health. So

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<v Speaker 1>I made a real effort to reduce the notifications, which

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<v Speaker 1>means I'm a little more slow to respond to things

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<v Speaker 1>than some of my coworkers, but you know, it's better

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little slow rather than to just have

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<v Speaker 1>a complete mental breakdown and no longer be able to

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<v Speaker 1>respond at all. Now, young kids, they are not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>going to be cognizant of the effects of these sort

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<v Speaker 1>of behaviors, of staying up and losing the equivalent of

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<v Speaker 1>a night's sleep each week. And younger children need more sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>They need it in order to recuperate. They need it

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<v Speaker 1>so that they can learn more effectively and grow in

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<v Speaker 1>a healthy way. So interrupting that process is not great. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not a parent. It is not my business

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<v Speaker 1>to tell other people how to take care of their

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<v Speaker 1>kids because I don't have kids and uh, far be

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<v Speaker 1>it from me to give parenting advice. But maybe, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have kids, consider limiting screen time and maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>putting away devices at night so that those devices aren't

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<v Speaker 1>accessible until perhaps the next day. So just make that

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<v Speaker 1>a regular part of the routine. That's what I would suggest.

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that that may not be easy in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of households, particularly if the kids are already accustomed

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<v Speaker 1>to always having their devices on them, but Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, you want your kid to grow

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<v Speaker 1>up healthy, so it's probably a good idea to to

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<v Speaker 1>limit that screen time. Probably a good idea for me

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<v Speaker 1>to do it to myself even more than I already have.

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<v Speaker 1>NASA will be testing the launch vehicle for the Artemis

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<v Speaker 1>one mission and tomorrow running a cryogenic demonstration. So in

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<v Speaker 1>this demonstration they aren't going to be firing up the engines,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not gonna be any sort of countdown or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. This test is to see if the team

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<v Speaker 1>has managed to fix the issues that led to a

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<v Speaker 1>hydrogen leak, which in turn forced NASA to delay the

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<v Speaker 1>launch earlier this month. So, as a reminder, the artemist

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<v Speaker 1>program is aimed at going back to the moon and

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<v Speaker 1>artemist one is to be an unscrewed mission, meaning there's

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<v Speaker 1>no crew aboard. I know when I say uncrewed it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like I'm saying it's not a crude mission in

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<v Speaker 1>the sense of it's, you know, it's egalitarian and refined.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what I mean, though. I'm sure everyone's on

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<v Speaker 1>their best behavior. But now, in this particular one, the

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<v Speaker 1>Orion capsule, which would normally hold astronauts, will instead be

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<v Speaker 1>carrying some mannequins as well as the snoopy doll, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it will fly off to do an orbit of

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<v Speaker 1>the moon before returning to Earth to touch down own

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<v Speaker 1>in the Pacific Ocean. But, as I mentioned, while the

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<v Speaker 1>original launch was planned for earlier this month, a hydrogen

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<v Speaker 1>leak to one of the four engines in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the launch vehicle, one of the fourth thrusters uh, forced

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<v Speaker 1>NASA to delay things. Engineers have since made repairs to

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<v Speaker 1>the system. They found a possible cause of the leak

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<v Speaker 1>as they discovered an indentation on part of the disconnect

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<v Speaker 1>line and they think maybe that was the problem and

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<v Speaker 1>they repaired that. So on Wednesday's test tomorrow, the launch

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<v Speaker 1>team will use a slower process to feed liquid hydrogen

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<v Speaker 1>to the engines to cool them down to operational levels,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll do that in the hopes that this kinder,

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<v Speaker 1>gentler approach will let engines reach the proper temperature while

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<v Speaker 1>putting less strain on the system as a whole. If

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<v Speaker 1>that works out, NASA could plan a new artemis one

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<v Speaker 1>launch for as earliest September, with October second listed as

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<v Speaker 1>a backup date should whether or some other event delay things.

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<v Speaker 1>This is, of course, assuming that space force gives them

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<v Speaker 1>the go ahead to do this, because they do have

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<v Speaker 1>to get space forces permission to launch due to the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that this is out of the the original schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>but here's hoping it all works out. Finally, two years

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<v Speaker 1>ago the Chinese Lunar Exploration Program launched a spacecraft called

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<v Speaker 1>the Chong Five. The name Chang references a Chinese moon goddess,

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<v Speaker 1>and my apologies for my pronunciation, but that spacecraft included

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<v Speaker 1>an orbiter which would stay in lunar orbit around the Moon,

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<v Speaker 1>and it also had a lander that had a second

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<v Speaker 1>spacecraft called in a cinder connected to it. So this

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<v Speaker 1>disconnected from the orbiter. The lander then touched down on

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<v Speaker 1>the moon, with the ascender put perched on top of

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<v Speaker 1>the lander. The Lander collected samples from the Moon's surface

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<v Speaker 1>and then transported those samples to the ascender, which then

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<v Speaker 1>launched off the lander, blew up to meet the orbiter

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<v Speaker 1>and rendezvous with it. Transferred the sample to the orbiter

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<v Speaker 1>and then the ascender was de orbited it. It landed

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<v Speaker 1>back on the Moon's surface. It just said my job

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<v Speaker 1>is done and it detached, went back and landed on

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<v Speaker 1>the moon. The orbiter meanwhile left Lunar Orbit, returned to

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<v Speaker 1>Earth and brought the samples back. So China became the

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<v Speaker 1>third country in the world to retrieve samples from the

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<v Speaker 1>lunar surface, the first being America the second one being Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>Well now, two years later, Chinese scientists say that within

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<v Speaker 1>that sample was a very small crystal that contains helium three.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is not totally unexpected, because scientists have long

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<v Speaker 1>hypothesized that there are large helium three deposits on the moon.

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<v Speaker 1>But you might wonder, well, why is this even important? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>helium three could potentially be the fuel used by future

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<v Speaker 1>fusion reactors. A huge advantage of helium three is that

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<v Speaker 1>the fusion process would not produce any radioactive particles, but

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<v Speaker 1>it would produce a lot of electricity energy. However, helium

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<v Speaker 1>three is pretty darn scarce here on earth, so it

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<v Speaker 1>could mean that the moon becomes a major source of

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<v Speaker 1>fuel for the future. All of that is still pretty

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<v Speaker 1>far off, because the tech for creating sustainable fusion reactions

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<v Speaker 1>remains elusive in general and for helium three in particular.

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<v Speaker 1>But if we were able to solve those issues, it

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<v Speaker 1>would mean that the moon would become a really valuable

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<v Speaker 1>resource for our energy needs here on earth. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it could become a battle ground as various nations try

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<v Speaker 1>to establish a presence on the moon for the purposes

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<v Speaker 1>of mining resources that could fuel stuff here on earth

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<v Speaker 1>or beyond. Sounds a lot like a hindland short story.

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<v Speaker 1>Those always turn out great. All right, that's the news

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<v Speaker 1>for Tuesday September two. Y'All, I should also report that

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<v Speaker 1>I will be on vacation next week and so I

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<v Speaker 1>will likely be putting up some reruns. Maybe I can

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<v Speaker 1>record a couple of updates if I have enough time

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<v Speaker 1>to do so, two older episodes. I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 1>a quick look and see if there are anything that

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<v Speaker 1>I can maybe do some short updates for and and

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<v Speaker 1>give you some new content. But yeah, I'll be gone

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<v Speaker 1>for a week and then I will return and I

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<v Speaker 1>will be re energized. Maybe it'll all depend on whether

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<v Speaker 1>we get hit by hurricanes while I'm on vacation. We'll see.

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