1 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Hey, it's the dec and I'm Charlie Webster. 2 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: This is Surviving L Chapo The Twins Who Brought Down 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: a Drug Lord Season two. Hi, it's Charlie Webster here, 4 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 2: host of Surviving L Chapo The Twins Who Brought Down 5 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: a Drug Lord. I know you guys have been waiting 6 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: for season two, and I've got some really good news. 7 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: It's coming out next week. 8 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: But as we've been putting the finishing touches together on 9 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: the new season, a huge development just happened and I 10 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: wanted to bring you up to date. If you remember, 11 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: whilst I was recording with the Florest family in the 12 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: safe house, they found out that Jay and Pete's older brother, Armando, 13 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: had cooperated with the Feds to provide evidence that implicated 14 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: their wives, Valenviv in a money laundering conspiracy. There was 15 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: a lot of upset in the house and the realization 16 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: that the wives. 17 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: Might end up serving prison time. 18 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: The information Armando gave was related to the twins drug 19 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: debts that were collected when Jay and Pete went to 20 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: prison back in two thousand and eight. The debts were 21 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: outstanding money that was owed to the brothers for drugs. 22 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: It was collected by val Viv and Armando. 23 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: Some of the money was handed over to the government, 24 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: but there was more that the government claimed they didn't 25 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: know about that Valenviv used to live off. The government 26 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: inded of Valenviv in twenty twenty one. Last year, the 27 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: wives filed a motion to dismiss the money laundering charges, 28 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: arguing that they were promised community as part of the 29 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: Twins cooperation deal. A hearing was held and Judge Matthew 30 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: Kennelly spent two days listening to evidence from both sides. 31 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: He denied the motion to dismiss the charges. 32 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: The wives were left with the choice to either go 33 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: to trial or plead guilty, partly due to a concern 34 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: around negative public perception. The wives decided not to go 35 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: to trial and pleaded guilty. 36 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: On July seventeenth. 37 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: Viv was sentenced to three and a half years in 38 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: prison and required to pay a five hundred and four thousand, 39 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: eight hundred and fifty eight dollars forfeiture. On Monday, the 40 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: twenty fifth of September, Val headed to the courthouse in 41 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: Chicago for her sentencing. The government had requested a five 42 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: year sentence instead. After hearing VAL's testimony, Judge Connelly gave 43 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: her the same sentence as vs. Three and a half 44 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: years in prison and a five hundred and four thousand, 45 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: eight hundred and fifty eight dollars forfeituat. I jumped on 46 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 2: the phone with Val on Monday afternoon, straight after her sentencing. 47 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: How are you feeling. 48 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 3: I'm okay, I'm okay. I'm just I feel like I'm 49 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: just that it's over with. I needed it to be done, 50 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: and I just, yeah, I'm so happy. I just I 51 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: got it over with. But I feel like, I, I 52 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: don't know, it's bittersweet, right, and I'm just happy that, 53 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: you know, I got it over with. You know, in court, 54 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: I apologize to my children, you know, for the pain 55 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: and cause, and I just regret putting them through this again. 56 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: I've been through so much ready, especially with their dad 57 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: being away for all the years and how to go 58 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: through that. So you know, now it's like I feel 59 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: like it's different when it comes to mom, you know, 60 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: especially since they've had me for so many years and 61 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: I kind of had to be mom and dad when 62 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: Jay was away, and so now it's like I won't 63 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: be there, and I just feel like it's going to 64 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 3: be really hard for them, But I feel really blessed 65 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: with the time that I did get because I got 66 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: three and a half years, and I feel like that 67 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: was a blessing for me. I'm really just trying to 68 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: be positive and I just want to I really want 69 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: to put this behind me, and I know we're going 70 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: to get through this. I know that, you know, our 71 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 3: family is very strong, and I feel like our bond 72 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: is unbreakable, and I think that you know, it's only 73 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 3: going to make us stronger. And I know one day 74 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: they can definitely put this behind us and finally just 75 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: start over. And you know, with our new lives, it's 76 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: just a lot, it's definitely a lot, but at the 77 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: end of the day, I just feel like it makes 78 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 3: us stronger. I feel like we've grow, We've grown so 79 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: much from everything that we've been through, and I feel 80 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: like I just wouldn't be the person I am today 81 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: if I hadn't gone through all the ups and downs 82 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: and all struggles. And I feel like I do realize, 83 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: I do realize the mistakes that I've made, and I 84 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: do honestly understand why I got the three and a 85 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: half years. And I feel that when I was in 86 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: court just listening to the prosecutors and listening to the judge, 87 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: I do understand, and I do take accountability for my 88 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: mistakes for sure, and I did take accountability for money laundering, 89 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 3: and I did say that this is what I did. 90 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: And I think that was very honorable for me to 91 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: get up there and gracefully say that, you know, everything 92 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: that I'm being charged with, I did do that. However, 93 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 3: I did believe that I had immunity, and so I 94 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: think that that made the difference whether the government agrees 95 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: with that or not or just going to agree to disagree. 96 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, as far as 97 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: the crime I committed, I did definitely money launder, and 98 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: I did say that I'm a different understanding of what 99 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: I was doing. And to be honest, Charlie, I just 100 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 3: hope that, like, by sharing my story, you know, I 101 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 3: just want to bring awareness to like other women that 102 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: have like walked in my shoes and have that are 103 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: going through this and sometimes you're living that life and 104 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: it's like a really fast lifestyle, right and you don't 105 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: realize you don't realize the consequences that comes with this life. 106 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: And I think that, you know, I'm hoping that they 107 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: you know other women can make better choices than I did, 108 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: because I felt like I did make a huge mistake, 109 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: and I just feel bad that, you know, my kids 110 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: are going to suffer because of it, and I feel 111 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: regretful that, you know, they're going to have to go 112 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: to this all over again because they've been through so 113 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: much already. 114 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: What do you think now about the fact that the 115 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: government pursued you like this. 116 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: To be honest, Charlie, I feel like I was really upset. 117 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: I felt like I was being targeted. I felt like 118 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: I felt like they wanted to make an example to me, 119 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: which is hurtful. The prosecutors that are in charge today 120 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: of the case, you know, I just like they're doing 121 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: their job, and I know that if they were, you know, 122 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: the prosecutors back then when my husband was was cooperating, 123 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: I feel like things would have been a lot different, 124 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: and I feel like everything would have been a lot 125 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: more clearer, to the point where I wouldn't have made 126 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: certain decisions and I wouldn't have made these bad choices. 127 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: And so I'm not upset and I'm not mad, I'm 128 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: not angry. I honestly do understand that this was not 129 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: okay with them. But I feel like it's different today 130 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: and what it was. I wish that the prosecutors today 131 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 3: were there back in two thousand and eight because everything 132 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 3: was like everything was smoking mirrors, you. 133 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 2: Know, I mean in a word speaking just after your sentences, 134 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: So I can imagine it's not really I don't know 135 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: how much it sank in. But how do you feel 136 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: about and how you're going to cope with prison? Is 137 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: there anything you've thought about and has it come up 138 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: in your head about your own safety? 139 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: And definitely, Charlie, like when I was in court today, 140 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: it's like we had to put on the headset and 141 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: they had to basically, you know, blur the channels so 142 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: no one can hear what the judges talk, what the 143 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: judge is saying to us. And there was things that 144 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: need to be taken out of my report that have 145 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: had to be redacted. Of course, where I would be 146 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: serving my time was definitely one of those issues. But 147 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: I must say that it is scary more so of 148 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: just the fact of being alone. And I think that's 149 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: what scares me, you know, just. 150 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's really hard to just you know, 151 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: your time alone, and I think that's part that scares 152 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 4: me the most, even working with you and like just 153 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 4: having these hard conversations. I was never used to that, Charlie, 154 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: And I think that by doing so, I was able 155 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: to really open up and tell my story, and I 156 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 4: think it really made a difference. So and I think 157 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 4: that in season two of our podcasts, I think that 158 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 4: you know, the listeners are going to hear a lot 159 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 4: more of our stories and depth, and hopefully they too 160 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: can understand, you know, what we've been going through. They 161 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 4: might not agree, but at least they'll understand our journey 162 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: for sure. 163 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: There's so much more to the Flori's family story. 164 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: Join us the Sea season two as we take you 165 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: on the fifteen year journey from the day the Twins 166 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 2: handed themselves in right through to now and find out how. 167 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: They got to this point. Fifty and I are really 168 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: excited to share the new season with you. 169 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: Make sure you hit follow to be notified as soon 170 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,119 Speaker 2: as it drops on October the fourth. In the meantime, 171 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: we've just dropped a little episode in your feed so 172 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: you can catch up on everything that happened last season 173 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: and check out the trailer for a sneak peek at 174 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: the new season. 175 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: Can't wait to see you on October the fourth. 176 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: Surviving El Chapo The Twins Who Brought Down a Drug Lord. 177 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: Season two is hosted by Curtis fifty cent Jackson and 178 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: me Charlie Webster, produced by myself and Jackson mcclennan, assistant 179 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 2: producer and research support by Katie Hurtz, Edit and sound 180 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:02,479 Speaker 2: design by Nico Prolella, an original score by Ryan Sorenson. 181 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: It's executive produced by Curtis fifty cent Jackson and Me 182 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: Charlie Webster. 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