WEBVTT - FREDIA GIBBS - Fighting for Every Bite

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Coleen Witt, and today we have very

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<v Speaker 1>special guests. Three times undefeated world kickboxing champion Fridia Gibbs

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<v Speaker 1>aka the Cheetah is in the building. How are you

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<v Speaker 1>so fantastic?

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<v Speaker 2>Colle Thank you for having me. How you doing I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to have you cooked for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Am.

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<v Speaker 1>I and I have never got I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever been able to interview a obviously, never interviewed an

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<v Speaker 1>undefeated three time world champion in any sport, but let

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<v Speaker 1>alone kickboxing before. But before we get into all the conversations,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to know what are you gonna have me

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<v Speaker 1>eating today?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, today we are going to eat some steak in asparic.

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<v Speaker 1>Steak and asparagus. Okay, what are all the ingredients to

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<v Speaker 1>make this this extra special?

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<v Speaker 2>The ingredients to make this extra special? Obf, she gotta

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<v Speaker 2>have a one sauce, you gotta have virgin oil. There

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<v Speaker 2>are we gonna include butter, salt, pepper, garlic, salt, and

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<v Speaker 2>some my garlic globe.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, got it? And asparagus and stick. Now, if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are EVI a listener to eating while broke. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't eat red meat, so out of the spirit of

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<v Speaker 1>the show, I will take a bite and I will

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<v Speaker 1>judge her very hard. Okay, and I don't even I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think. I think the last time I tried a

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<v Speaker 1>one or steak sauce was like probably like when I

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<v Speaker 1>was like twelve or something. So we're gonna really live

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<v Speaker 1>it up today on the show. So go ahead. See,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't leave you a lot of cooking room. Hun,

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<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna really box it out right now?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to like, chap.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a this is like a fake. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a stove set.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you gotta look out marinate that through. You gotta

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<v Speaker 2>throw some karate chops at the steak there flipping the

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<v Speaker 2>steak here on. During the time that I'm flipping the steak,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking about all the times I had to flip

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<v Speaker 2>my mindset for from survival to success. That makes sense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>had added a little bit of garlic salt on my

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<v Speaker 2>survival mode. That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen someone beat up with steak like this.

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<v Speaker 2>But I had add a little bit of that there.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to go into that success mode cooking. Now

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<v Speaker 2>what it makes me feel like I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>celebrating progress.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, okay, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna add some salt and some pepper. We already

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<v Speaker 2>add the garlic salt there, right, yeah, add a little

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<v Speaker 2>pepper there.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I think he is one of those twisters.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you got it right here.

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<v Speaker 2>Show me.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me try to help you out. Poor steak is

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<v Speaker 1>about to get murdered. She's frying up the garlic. She

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<v Speaker 1>done beat up the steak for real with her hands,

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<v Speaker 1>seasoned it with steak. It was salt pepper. Now you're

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<v Speaker 1>going in with the butter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, going in with the butter, baby girl.

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Now, is this that's just for the steak,

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<v Speaker 1>right yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>This is for the steak and asparagus.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>See what a lot of people don't know is you

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<v Speaker 2>got to cook the asparagus and the steaker. There got

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<v Speaker 2>cooking combined. That's why you cooked the steak first.

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<v Speaker 1>So essentially you're put in the butter, the garlic you

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<v Speaker 1>see in the steak, and the asparagus is all going

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<v Speaker 1>into one pot exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because when I was broke, I only had one pot,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, And that's the one pot

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<v Speaker 2>that I used, and I learned how to cook multiple

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<v Speaker 2>different foods than the one pot. It makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you was always washing dishes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I don't like washing dishes. That's why I

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<v Speaker 2>always had one pot, one big plate.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what I'm saying. After every meal you had.

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<v Speaker 2>To wash it.

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<v Speaker 1>I always had a dish washing okay, okay, so you

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<v Speaker 1>wash your three three, your three four.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I would wait until they pile up.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I'll just keep buying dishes. Oh god, you're hilarious. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So take me back to what was going on during

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<v Speaker 1>the steak and asparagus error. Take you back to one

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<v Speaker 1>What was going on during this time.

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<v Speaker 2>Back when I was broke. I had to dress up

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<v Speaker 2>oodles and noodles, That makes sense. Yeah, And I would

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<v Speaker 2>call a t bone steak and asparagus because that's something

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<v Speaker 2>that was like my vision. Yeah, during that time when

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<v Speaker 2>I was broke, and what I had to do as

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<v Speaker 2>just done here. I had to season it with some

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<v Speaker 2>hot salt, you know what I mean, seizing my food

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<v Speaker 2>with faith because I was only eating noodles and noodles,

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<v Speaker 2>how it was broke.

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<v Speaker 1>But were you eating oodles and noodles or were you

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<v Speaker 1>eating steak and asparagus.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the day when I was broke, I was

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<v Speaker 2>eating oodles and noodles, but my vision was to have

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<v Speaker 2>steak and asparagus. I couldn't ford steak at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so what did you you ate noodle ramen noodles?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I would mix it up with the vegetables and

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<v Speaker 2>chick a little bit of chicken here and the steak

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<v Speaker 2>here and there, and just mix it up and make it.

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<v Speaker 2>Look when you go into these ramen stores today, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you see they mix it up with everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they got that from me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're hilarious, you know they got that. Wait, why are

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<v Speaker 1>you making steak in this?

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I'm cooking today because this is what

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<v Speaker 2>I strive for. This is what's my vision.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know, so you switched up our whole show today. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to be cooking me a broken dish.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh damn, she has me.

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<v Speaker 1>Take me back to the oodles and noodles day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>take me back to what was going on during that era.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what jeez, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Take me back time and everything it's okay for putting

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<v Speaker 1>steam in.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, okay. Well, during the oodles and noodles era,

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<v Speaker 2>that was doing my fighting, Ara, I didn't really have

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<v Speaker 2>a job. I had to fight for food, meaning that

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<v Speaker 2>during the time I was competing, but I wasn't getting

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<v Speaker 2>paid at the time because I was just an amateur.

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<v Speaker 2>I was working side gigs. I had to fight. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I had to fight for food. I had

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out how I was going to keep the

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<v Speaker 2>roof over my head during my oodls and noodles days

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<v Speaker 2>and back in those days keeping my oodles and noodles.

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<v Speaker 2>They coming back to twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>But before you started fighting for it, where did the

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<v Speaker 1>oodles and noodles start? Take me back to like, prior

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<v Speaker 1>to you even starting to fantasize about kick boxing, Take

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<v Speaker 1>me back to your childhood life.

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<v Speaker 2>Childhood life, Oh jeez. I'm obviously from Chester, Pennsylvania, south

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<v Speaker 2>side of Philadelphia, from the projects there a fairground project

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<v Speaker 2>during those days. We grew up very poor, but we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know we were poor. That makes sense, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's when moms was back on welfare during those days,

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<v Speaker 2>back that time. Sosehold, I've always come from a two

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<v Speaker 2>parent household. I've had my grandfather, my grandmother, and my

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<v Speaker 2>great grandfather and grandmother. So I've always come from a

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<v Speaker 2>two parent house. How many kids, it's three. I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>oldest of three.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, did anyone else get into kickboxinger.

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<v Speaker 2>No, my brother got into fighting. My sister she'd got

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<v Speaker 2>into boys. But you know how that works, right, Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, okay, so you come from this two parent household,

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<v Speaker 1>it's me closer to where you start to get the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that you want to get into a very kickboxing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I used to get Yeah, I was gonna say, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say an untraditional sport. But okay, you were

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<v Speaker 1>getting bullied a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I used to get bullied a lot. It was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty smart in school. In elementary school, and the girls

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<v Speaker 2>in the classroom, they would make me do their homework.

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<v Speaker 2>At first, I started out helping them. You start off

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<v Speaker 2>helping somebody. Then I started helping them do their homework

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<v Speaker 2>because I was always excelling in class. And then it

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<v Speaker 2>got to the point where I would do them a

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<v Speaker 2>favor and do their homework one time. And then it

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<v Speaker 2>got to the point where they were forcing me, making

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<v Speaker 2>me do their homework. You dig and it got to

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<v Speaker 2>the point where I was tired of doing their homework.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I decided that I was tired of doing

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<v Speaker 2>their homework and I felt they should do their own homework,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when they decided to beat me up and toss

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<v Speaker 2>me in the bat in the trash can in the

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<v Speaker 2>girl's room.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, we were you.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe I was bullied.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could believe it. There's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that are successful today that I had to hold that

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<v Speaker 1>were you smaller inside and stature at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a little medium height, little muskar as. I

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<v Speaker 2>was athletically built because I was built like a track

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<v Speaker 2>runner and the medium height, and I wore glasses all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, just like I do today. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>a little nerd.

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<v Speaker 1>So these girls started bullying you. Did you go home

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<v Speaker 1>to the parents and say, hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, nom my mom. No one knew for almost a

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<v Speaker 2>whole year. You dig And then, like I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>decided I'm not doing your homework. So they said, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to kick your behind when you get off the

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<v Speaker 2>bus going home from school. So I was I was terrified.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we got on the school bus, right Coley,

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<v Speaker 2>I said to the bus driver, listen, can you let

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<v Speaker 2>me off at the stop ahead? Because they said they

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<v Speaker 2>gonna beat me up, And the bus driver said no.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what I said, put that whole school

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<v Speaker 2>gonna beat me up. She said, listen, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>you do. I said, well, she said that everybody, when

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<v Speaker 2>I let you off at your stop at the fairground,

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to let everybody get off the bus,

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<v Speaker 2>and you'd be the last one to get off. I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking about that. I said, okay, so everybody

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<v Speaker 2>got off the bus. Just listen to this. Everybody got

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<v Speaker 2>off the bus, all the.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids even get you a headstart.

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<v Speaker 2>So now I go, yeah, exactly. So she said, now

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to walk to the back of the bus,

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<v Speaker 2>and I unlocked the emergency door. So I went ahead

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<v Speaker 2>and walked to the back of the bus. And when

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<v Speaker 2>I walked back in the bath. When I walked to

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<v Speaker 2>the back of the bus, everybody outside, all the kids outside,

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<v Speaker 2>walked to the back of the bus. Unlocked the door.

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<v Speaker 2>Boom boom. She said, now walk back to the front

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<v Speaker 2>of the bus. So I walked back to the front

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<v Speaker 2>of the bus. Everybody outside walked back to the front

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<v Speaker 2>of the bus. She said now when I counted three,

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to run bus out that door and

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<v Speaker 2>run as fast as you can. That's the bus driver said.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, okay, she said one. Now I'm stand at

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<v Speaker 2>the front of the bus with the bus driving. All

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<v Speaker 2>the kids at the front too. Outside she said two,

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<v Speaker 2>she said three, took off. I took off. Run who

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<v Speaker 2>bust off the back of the yellow fool bust or boom,

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<v Speaker 2>And I had hand started on whamp. I'm a hardtown.

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<v Speaker 2>I was running and I got to my mom's crib

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<v Speaker 2>and I busted U turn and I busted my mom's door,

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<v Speaker 2>shut the door real fast. And my mom she's playing

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<v Speaker 2>solitary at the time, so all the cards flew off

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<v Speaker 2>to the table. She's like, girl, what the hell wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with you busting this door like a black super woman?

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<v Speaker 2>What you gonna do? Lost your mind? But I shut

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<v Speaker 2>the door. Boom. She knew something was wrong. I had

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<v Speaker 2>the door shut, and I was cool because I was safe.

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<v Speaker 2>I went on in the house, my my own business.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom heard all the kids outside making all this

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<v Speaker 2>your noise. So she went to take a look out

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<v Speaker 2>the window, and she saw all the kids outside. She's

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell is going on with this here. Then

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<v Speaker 2>I had to confess because I couldn't run all my life.

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<v Speaker 2>So she went outside. She said, what the hell is

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<v Speaker 2>going on out here? They were like, we gonna kick

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<v Speaker 2>Fredy's butt, and my mother was like why and cousin,

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't do our homework. And then my mom was like, Sissy,

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<v Speaker 2>get y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>You can do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. My mother said, Sissy, get your motherfucking ass out

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<v Speaker 2>here right now. She hand me the broom. Yeah, call me,

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<v Speaker 2>she said to the she said, now, which one of

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<v Speaker 2>y'all want to fight her? And all three of the

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<v Speaker 2>girls raised their hand. My mom said she ain't fighting

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<v Speaker 2>all three of y'all. She said, now, which one is

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<v Speaker 2>the baddest one? Then this girl gilded raised the girl

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<v Speaker 2>raised her hand. I'm gonna let that cook. A little

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<v Speaker 2>bit girl raised her hand and it was the biggest one.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom said, what's your mama's name? She said Fanny Lou.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom said figure. My mom said, after this is over,

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<v Speaker 2>you go down there and tell Fanny Lou you ever

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<v Speaker 2>put your hands on my daughter gain, I'm gonna come

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<v Speaker 2>down there and beat Fatty Lou's ass. She said, you

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<v Speaker 2>let Fatty Lou know that. She said. Now, since this

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<v Speaker 2>is who you're gonna fight, she said, Now, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>tell you this here. I want you to beat her ass.

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<v Speaker 2>You hear me, And if you don't beat her ass,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get two ass whoopings. All right, Now here's

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<v Speaker 2>the bru beat her ass. That's exactly what my mama said.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, shall we come to? Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you shout all the black mothers to speak

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<v Speaker 1>like this. Yeah, that's how we grew up. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't whoop they asked, you don't come home, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get a second ass with us, so they gotta

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<v Speaker 1>look worse than you. Otherwise you gotta come home in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>But shout outs to the parents that did that, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, shout out to your mom. Undefeated world champion.

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<v Speaker 1>All started with this fighter, get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, but you got two women my mind. I lost,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't hear a whooping. So after it was

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<v Speaker 2>all over with, the fight was over with, I came

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<v Speaker 2>back in glasses off, one shirt off, pull over. The

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<v Speaker 2>broom was half of a broom?

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<v Speaker 1>What was he gonna do with the broom?

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<v Speaker 2>Hit her with the Oh I did hit her with

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<v Speaker 2>the broom. She was bigger than me. So that's why

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<v Speaker 2>my mom gave me the broom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. Your mom asked for the bigger and

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<v Speaker 1>the baddest one. Exactly, thanks mom.

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<v Speaker 2>So we fought. Every time I run back to my mom,

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<v Speaker 2>she talks me back out there. She said, can we

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<v Speaker 2>go in that. I run back to buck, he talks

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<v Speaker 2>me back out there. I had no other choice. I

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<v Speaker 2>had to fight.

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<v Speaker 1>So we fought between the mom and the bus driver.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>The women back then.

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<v Speaker 1>It was amazing. But just to backtrack to the bus driver,

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<v Speaker 1>she could have let you off. None of this would

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<v Speaker 1>have happened. If she would have just let.

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<v Speaker 2>You off, I could have caught my grandparents run back

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<v Speaker 2>in exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have hated that bus driver. On that's you're

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<v Speaker 1>not burning this steak.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because steak has to cook all the way through,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Mary's donner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a well donner. Okay, you a well donner.

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<v Speaker 2>That's because that the garlic is very important. It's also

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<v Speaker 2>it's healthy for our inside, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for a body. As an athlete, we eat guard clothes

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. Before running. Oh yeah, right, yeah right,

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<v Speaker 2>like gum yeah raw.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see that movie Centers when they had to

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<v Speaker 1>eat the garlic?

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<v Speaker 2>I've not seen that. You got to see that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta check it out there, gotta.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout alright, go back to your story.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't win the fight, okay in my mind. But

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<v Speaker 2>I went back in the crib there and I sat

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<v Speaker 2>on the bed expecting to get my butt with and

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<v Speaker 2>my mom came back in there, and my mom said,

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<v Speaker 2>that's this is what's gonna happen. You should have told

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<v Speaker 2>me that this was happening. I didn't know. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what you're gonna have to learn. Put your

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<v Speaker 2>head up, she said, put your head up and put

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<v Speaker 2>your shoulders back. You got to understand it. In this world,

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<v Speaker 2>there are wolves and you're going to have to learn

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<v Speaker 2>how to fight, and there's gonna be people out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to have to learn how to fight. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it in your sissy, but somebody's gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to wake it up because you got that fight in you.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense. Yeah, But I was like fine, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go because.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my family called me call me sister because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the oldest one. And I was like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to go back to that school. So my mother called

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<v Speaker 2>my grand I said, I want to go to Chichester.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the predominant white school, because I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>Chester to predominantly black schieh. I want to go to Chichester.

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<v Speaker 2>So my grandmother, my mother called my grandmother, my father's

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<v Speaker 2>mother and you know, my father's people that I lived

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<v Speaker 2>a double life, project middle class. I lived a double life,

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<v Speaker 2>so my father's people. My uncle, my father's brother, is

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<v Speaker 2>a marshal art master, so he came my grandmother told

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<v Speaker 2>him what was going on, and I told my grandma, look, Grandma,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go to that school. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't want to go to school at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to learn it home. And then when they

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<v Speaker 2>forced me to go to another school, I was I

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<v Speaker 2>still met another bully, you know, and transferred to another

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<v Speaker 2>school and met another bully. I was sitting in art

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<v Speaker 2>class with my knees up doing art. Girl came over

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<v Speaker 2>and just kicked me, writing the ass braym. I just

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<v Speaker 2>turned around like.

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<v Speaker 1>A white girl a black girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, they're everywhere so at this time, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to go to school all. Then I was

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<v Speaker 2>told my grandma said, look, I was at my grandmother's

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<v Speaker 2>house on the weekend and and I said, look, Grandma,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going back to school, and they were gonna

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna force me to go back to scoul I said, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to force me to go back to school,

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<v Speaker 2>then I'm gonna take myself out. Why should I allow

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<v Speaker 2>them to kill me? Yeah? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>How old are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like twelve eighteen? I said, why should I

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<v Speaker 2>continue to allow them to hurt me?

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<v Speaker 1>But now backtack, you said that you had an uncle,

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<v Speaker 1>or get.

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<v Speaker 2>To my uncle. So when I told my grandmother that part,

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<v Speaker 2>then my grandmother went ahead and got my father's brother,

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<v Speaker 2>my uncle Bill, who is the martial art instructor. So

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<v Speaker 2>he said, I saw I heard. He said, So I

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<v Speaker 2>heard you having issues in school. I'll never forget him

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<v Speaker 2>putting his hand on my shoulder. I'm just I'll never

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<v Speaker 2>forget that as long as I live. He said, So

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<v Speaker 2>I heard you having an issue in school. You're being bullied?

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<v Speaker 2>Said yeah, he said, so I heard you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to go to school. Anymore. I said yeah. He said, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>free diya. You cannot run all of your life. Adversity

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<v Speaker 2>is going to follow you wherever you go. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to learn how to stand firm. This is what I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do. I said, what now? He got a

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<v Speaker 2>hang had on my shoulder. He said, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>teach you karate. I said, no, man, no, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to fight. Man, I don't want to fight. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>This is not about fighting. This is about us rebuilding

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<v Speaker 2>your self confidence. This is about us rebuilding your self esteem. Now, maiie,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like twelve thirteen, man, I'm like, what self confidence?

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<v Speaker 2>He says. Self confidence is about having no doubt and

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<v Speaker 2>your God given ability. That's what self confidence is. I said, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>having no doubt in my talent? Okay, what self esteem?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that? Because I didn't know, So he pulls out

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<v Speaker 2>the dictionary. He says, and self esteem is about whatever

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<v Speaker 2>I forget. He says, yeah, okay, great. I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not about fighting, he said, exactly, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>rebuild that. I said, okay, find I can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I can do that. And at the time, that's when

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Lee came along.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what to say. The karate kid wasn't out ye, Bruce.

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<v Speaker 2>Lee was the man at the time that's cooking allway through.

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<v Speaker 2>Let the cooking.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I would be I would understand it where

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<v Speaker 1>your stances like, Man, I'm not trying to be a fighter.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to be that. So I never forget going

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<v Speaker 2>to karate school for the first time. He gave me

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<v Speaker 2>my gear, he gave me my white gi and my

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<v Speaker 2>white belt, and it's cool. It's like a major transformation.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll never forget being attending class for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>And before I walked in the door, he said, anything negative,

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<v Speaker 2>any negative thoughts that you have in your mind, any

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<v Speaker 2>negative energies, I want you to keep it out this

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<v Speaker 2>door right now. Don't bring it in here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I didn't know that's what like karate and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>I never knew that's what it was about. To be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very spiritual. And I thought, Wow, leave it

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<v Speaker 2>all out there, all attitude egos, leave it out there, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And I got that message. So when I walked in,

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<v Speaker 2>it was all black men, businessmen, judges, engineers, lawyers, and entrepreneurs.

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<v Speaker 2>These all black businessman and one white guy. And this

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<v Speaker 2>white guy was nerdy, but he would keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>So they weren't even you were joining a class full

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<v Speaker 1>of kids.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I was with men. I was with all men.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, all men, all masters and on the wall

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<v Speaker 2>and masters, you're all masters and on the wall calling.

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<v Speaker 2>What was cool is there's this big question that says,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you here? Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're all lined up. Now. I'm the little white the

0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.520
<v Speaker 2>white girl, so I'm at the end there. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the only female amongst them. So it's like I had

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<v Speaker 2>to grow real fast. Yeah. I learned a lot from

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<v Speaker 2>these masters. I had no idea what they were pouring

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<v Speaker 2>into me. That's how I became champion.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you first walk into that room as a

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<v Speaker 1>young girl, are you as a part of your mindset

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<v Speaker 1>semi eye rolling, really serious.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I wasn't that type. I was that type to

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<v Speaker 2>have ego. I wasn't type too talk back. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>that type at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But you knew you were walking into this self confidence, selfness.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea. I had no idea what I

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<v Speaker 2>was walking into. But I knew what I was walking into.

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<v Speaker 2>Seeing the judge that I knew who was very respectable

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<v Speaker 2>in my community. The lawyers that I knew who were

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<v Speaker 2>very respectable, the businessmen who were very respectful, upholding individuals

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<v Speaker 2>in our community. I knew that I was.

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<v Speaker 1>You knew who these people were.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were very well respected. So I thought, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>how special. This must be special for me. But wow wow,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when they started teaching me how to throw

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<v Speaker 2>punches correctly, because back in the day, we just grabbed

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<v Speaker 2>your hair. Yeah. But then they started showing me how

0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:31.840
<v Speaker 2>to throw punches correctly, you know what I mean. Starts

0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.359
<v Speaker 2>showing me how to move. That makes sense. Then they

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<v Speaker 2>start showing me how to use my knees and showing

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<v Speaker 2>me how to use my elbows, showing me how to

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<v Speaker 2>go for the groin. Because they were men, and whenever

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<v Speaker 2>they compete against each other, whenever one man was balpidating

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<v Speaker 2>the other throwing martial arts, they go for the growing.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense. So that's what they taught me. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a master going for the groy because that's all

0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.800
<v Speaker 2>I went with one up against those guys at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>The way you so I was little at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>but each kick you think Bruce Lee threw over ten

0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.000
<v Speaker 2>thousand kicks I threw over to one. Wow, you understand

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<v Speaker 2>me over twenty thousand. I had no idea. And what

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<v Speaker 2>was crazy is as these masters, I'm the youngest one here,

0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.640
<v Speaker 2>but as these masters, we're all throwing technique or kind

0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:13.760
<v Speaker 2>of techniques or whatever. I'm feeling all the energy and

0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.439
<v Speaker 2>power come down to me. That makes sense. I felt it.

0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:21.280
<v Speaker 2>It was like permeating me. It was transformed me. I

0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:25.080
<v Speaker 2>realized that, Wow, so this is confidence. That makes sense.

0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.359
<v Speaker 2>I was feeling the confidence from the top master all

0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:30.439
<v Speaker 2>the way down to the master who was adjacent to me.

0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:32.560
<v Speaker 2>That makes it. Now I'm just as little white belt,

0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:34.840
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know exactly what's going on, but I

0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.359
<v Speaker 2>know I feel something. And what I know feel I

0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.800
<v Speaker 2>know is now, Yeah, you know what I mean. I

0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.639
<v Speaker 2>knew it was transforming me. That makes sense. Yeah, I

0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.200
<v Speaker 2>knew that. When I saw those bullies again, I beat

0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:48.200
<v Speaker 2>the ass so fast that things know why killed me, Cheetah,

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:48.960
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense.

0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm just curious, did you ever go backing with some

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<v Speaker 1>of these bullies?

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<v Speaker 2>But actually, what was crazy is I did go back, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mexic School.

0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:02.440
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I went back to visit. No, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go back to the school and when I ran. Once

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<v Speaker 2>I left, it's just like in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Officially, Yeah you left school.

0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.240
<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't leave school, but I left that school.

0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:12.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like a relation. Once I leave, it's a rat

0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:15.560
<v Speaker 2>you did. I ain't going back, That's the way I am.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did see them as I got older. Yeah,

0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.040
<v Speaker 2>and I'll never forget Guilded. Guilda was made with guild

0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:21.600
<v Speaker 2>and Loretta.

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<v Speaker 1>The bullies.

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<v Speaker 2>The bullies. Yeah, first of all, they were all wait,

0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:28.560
<v Speaker 2>all of them were fatten out of shape. Even to

0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:30.200
<v Speaker 2>this day, they're all like wells.

0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I hope they see this, by.

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<v Speaker 2>The way, all four of them.

0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh well bully Oh damn little plumpers. Huh, Oh my god.

0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:39.960
<v Speaker 1>They what I.

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<v Speaker 2>Forgot, the people over here in this here. But yeah,

0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:44.879
<v Speaker 2>they're all like wells. But I'll never forget seeing Guilder.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we could dissed the bullies.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, get that, Yeah we can't. And Guilda and the

0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:52.400
<v Speaker 2>girl who kicked me in my butt, Lisa right out now.

0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.480
<v Speaker 2>I saw her about three years ago. Lisa started that,

0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:57.080
<v Speaker 2>the one who kicked me in my button. And I

0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:59.080
<v Speaker 2>was at quiet store and the school there, and my

0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:02.639
<v Speaker 2>uncle introduced to for a long time, and she was

0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:05.040
<v Speaker 2>starting some she was talking like she wanted to start something.

0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:10.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Lisa, cut that, undefeated, Lisa little This

0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:13.639
<v Speaker 2>is my exactly is Lisa little girl. I will beat

0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.920
<v Speaker 2>your ass so fucking fast. You'll know why they call

0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:20.440
<v Speaker 2>me cheetah. Now I'm not the same person you kicked

0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:24.280
<v Speaker 2>any ass that she tried. And I sat in front

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:26.400
<v Speaker 2>of everybody and I said, you want something, you could

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:29.560
<v Speaker 2>have something, knut. No, she didn't want them. You want

0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:31.679
<v Speaker 2>something you can have because we were already in the dojo,

0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:35.119
<v Speaker 2>So you want something, you could have something, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? And I supplied this is four years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy, crazy, bully, bully what I'm saying, huh I

0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:48.160
<v Speaker 1>after knowing you are undefeated, that's done three times over.

0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't even make sense and exactly, and Gildas popped

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:54.120
<v Speaker 2>the one time in the mouth I wanted to were

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, our hands are My hands are registered.

0:22:57.600 --> 0:22:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Like some kind of life.

0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:02.640
<v Speaker 2>My hands are register and when I use my weapons,

0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:04.159
<v Speaker 2>I have to use it if it's a matter of

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:06.359
<v Speaker 2>life and death. That makes sense. Yeah, so I have

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:09.000
<v Speaker 2>to really be threatened, and she wasn't no real threatening

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I learned early how to walk away. That makes sense,

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:17.159
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, what you're thinking, she's a moron.

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm lucky. She's lucky. She's lucky in your hands on

0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 1>registered she's lucky. And I'm sure you've acquired so much,

0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.159
<v Speaker 1>you've mastered like internal discipline right in this sport.

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I will despite the fact that I can fight,

0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I'll walk away.

0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Are you slow to anger?

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:35.520
<v Speaker 2>I've always been slow to anger as a very kid,

0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 2>young kid. My mom's getting mad at me. I'm glad

0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 2>you said that, my mom, Sissy, you're supposed to be

0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 2>angry about this. No, I don't like the way anger feels,

0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Yeah, I didn't like the

0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:47.399
<v Speaker 2>way the energy was the fire.

0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:50.960
<v Speaker 1>So like your siblings could annoy you to death and

0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 1>you would be like whatever, Really, how much older are

0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 1>you than them?

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Two years one?

0:23:56.640 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty good, sixty eight that's pretty good, two years apoon.

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like after this episode a lot of people

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be saying sissy, huh.

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yess. My parents, my mom and I used

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:08.879
<v Speaker 2>to call me sissy. My mom called me sissy, and

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 2>my dad used to call me chips, Friedo corn chips. Crazy, Huh,

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:13.399
<v Speaker 2>I like that?

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, so you go through this training and now

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 1>you're walking around with confidence. You go through this, I

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 1>guess predominantly white school. Is people peeping your energy change?

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 2>No, I went to What happened. I received a scholarship.

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I went on and excelled in basketball and excelled in track.

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 2>We became state champions in track, and I received a

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 2>double scholarship Division one scholarship the Temple University. Okay, yes,

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.440
<v Speaker 2>when I went to Temple, I was only there a year.

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 2>I flunked out. I know. I met this guy. First

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 2>time I'm ever away from my family. I met this

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 2>guy named Jamain. He was super cool. Fell in love

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:50.920
<v Speaker 2>with him. He was staying with me. He drank a lot.

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:53.919
<v Speaker 2>Doing all the basketball games. This is this is some

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 2>real stuff. Doing all the basketball games at wind Lose

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 2>a draw. All the superstars, the athletes would go into

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 2>this locker. It was private room and there was cocaine. Beauties. Yeah, beauties,

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 2>black beauties is speed, oh speed speed alcohol. All the

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:15.360
<v Speaker 2>male basketball stars and not just basketball. All the male

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.919
<v Speaker 2>stars pitt Wether was basketball, football, track. We all went

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 2>into the females too. We all went to this room,

0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:21.919
<v Speaker 2>and we used to all just celebrate and have a

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 2>good time. The only thing I remember is taking a

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 2>drink and waking up but damn naked, grabbing my dad,

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:29.879
<v Speaker 2>trying to find my clothing and get running down the hallway,

0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 2>like what the heck gonna happen? And it just happened

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 2>multiple times, like we entering and guys on guys, girls

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 2>on girls, everybody on everybody. That's just the way it

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 2>was the university. That's the way it was in the university.

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:44.360
<v Speaker 2>The athletes, that's what I saw. That's how it started off.

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Now whatever happened between I don't remember because I got

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 2>blacked out, that makes sense, And to this day, I

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 2>still don't remember what the heck happened.

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>That's really dangerous, Yeah, I know.

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then that's how I got kicked out of school, Yeah,

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:01.440
<v Speaker 2>because I was As a newspaper said, too much too soon,

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:04.919
<v Speaker 2>you did free day Gibs lose her scholarship, too much

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 2>too soon. It was. I never did hot drugs when

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 2>I was in high school. I never even touched a joint.

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even drink. But when I went to Temple,

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I became a cocaine addict. I became a blueberry blue

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:20.639
<v Speaker 2>black beauty addict. You did, I became an attic.

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Wow, So then how do you after you first of

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>all going back on to your parent, your mama and

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 1>telling her that, now did she take the news?

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 2>What happened was my college coach said, look here, we

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.400
<v Speaker 2>need to have a meeting. So they called me there.

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:36.199
<v Speaker 2>I was in the office. I'll never forget it as

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 2>long as I lived. And she said that your grade

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 2>point after zero point zero. She said, when we found you,

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 2>discovered you free d you were here, you are now here.

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Why do you choose to go back here when you

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 2>can go here? I'll never forget her saying this. She said, well,

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 2>we gotta let you go. You're suspended. We got to

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 2>kick you out the university. But I didn't care because

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 2>I was strung out.

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:09.239
<v Speaker 1>That makes sense, did they and they didn't know you

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>were strung out?

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.640
<v Speaker 2>No, they didn't because I could play basketball real well,

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 2>I was. She still kicking button, doing my job, just

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 2>doing my job. That makes sense. And I'll never and

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.919
<v Speaker 2>then again maybe they did, because this is what happened.

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:22.719
<v Speaker 2>I gotta let this cook through. This is what happened.

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 2>So I went to the bank I'll never forget to

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 2>get money to leave, and I'll never forget hearing this tailor.

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 2>And now I was in line, I'm hearing this tailler. Yeah,

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, No, Fredia Gibbs didn't. I was like,

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:39.639
<v Speaker 2>that's me. Then I heard her say to the other lady,

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 2>did you hear what Fredia Gibbs did to us? And

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I thought, what did I do to them? I don't

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 2>even know these people. And then as I got closer,

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 2>they were talking she loves too much to school soon,

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Fridia Gibbs loses her scholarship too much, too soon. Temple

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 2>didn't allow me to even get cash my check and

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 2>get home. And it was all on the newspapers and

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.360
<v Speaker 2>everything that makes sense. Yes, I go to the bank,

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 2>I go through the train station near Philly to go

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 2>back to Chester, and newspaper all over the place. I'm like,

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 2>holy count, I'm hearing everybody talking all of a sudden,

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, me already being strung out, and I'm hearing

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 2>all these voices. I'm thinking, hearing this woman, we're talking

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 2>about what did I do doing? There's too much too soon?

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>What does she do to here? And I'm thinking, what

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 2>do you mean? What did I do to you? I

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't understand, but I knew something was going on, you

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. It's like it was war, all

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 2>these voices war. So I get off the train in

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Chester the projects. First thing one of the Whinos says

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 2>to me is, Fredia, what are you doing back here?

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 2>And I was like wow, But I wasn't the same

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Freda I was when I left and the projects in

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Philly Chester they protected the superstars. That makes sense because

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 2>we were They were proud of us. We had a pass.

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense to enter all the projects. That makes sense. Yeah,

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 2>today they killed the superstars. Did you know that?

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>If you go back there now.

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 2>They killed superstars, all the superstars back in my projects

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 2>that I grew up, that I grew up, they killed

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>them because they're jealous of them. And I'm like, wow,

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 2>they're killing them now.

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Stars And you're more known at this point for basketball

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and track, basketball, track and kickboxing, oh and kick Okay,

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>so you come.

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Back So I'm back there. Yeah. So I'm back there

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 2>just letting that do his magic. Yes. And then I

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 2>go back there and I talked to my mom. I

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 2>let my mom know what's going on telegony. Yeah, I'm comfortable.

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 2>I got kicked out and she said, what happened? I said,

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I got strung out? She said, what happened? I said,

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I met this guy named Jamaine, and I got strung

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 2>out on cocaine, the same thing I told you I got.

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 2>I was a rookie and I was with all the superstars,

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 2>the seniors, you know what I mean. And they introduced

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 2>me to something and I tried it, and ever after

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>every game we went there and Jamaine he got me

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 2>hooked on a beer and liquor and things like that,

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 2>and he was staying with me. So that's what happened,

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, Okay. And then my brother, he was a

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 2>big time drug deal at the time. My brother's name

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 2>is Brogie Lucas and and he was a big time

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 2>drug deal at the time in Philly. And I'll never

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 2>forget me wanting And that's what I'm so anyway, I go.

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>You said earlier that your mom had said that he

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>had turned you out.

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jermaine to turned me out. Okay. What happened was

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 2>what I learned, and this went on moving forward. What

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 2>I learned moving forward. After I left Temple and told

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>my mom, I went to my father's people, and I

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 2>let them know, and I stayed with my father's people

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 2>after I left my mom. Now many I was strong,

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.479
<v Speaker 2>I said, with my at my mom's I still had

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 2>access to cocaine, you understand, but I didn't want to

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 2>deal with it from the streets because my brother was

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 2>a big time drug dealer and with the black folks.

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to do it get it from those guys.

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Why Why is that?

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Because I didn't trust my brother mixing it. He was

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 2>mixing crack with cocaine at you know, I didn't want

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 2>to take the chance. So I decided to stop. I

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 2>wanted to stop cocaine and everything all together. I wanted

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 2>to go back to the clean freedia that I was

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 2>before I left.

0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>And what was driving this want or this desire?

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Because because I knew that wasn't me. Okay, that makes sense.

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't me.

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>And what was just going back to your mom's response,

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 1>what was her response to hearing this news.

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 2>She was very surprised. Okay, yeah, she was very surprised.

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 2>That's why she said, I got turned out. Ok Yeah,

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>she said, I told you, sissy, there are wolves out there. Yes,

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>she did remember that when I was younger, when I

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 2>was young, she said, I told you there are wolves

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 2>out there. Wow. Yeah, and you got caught by a

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 2>wolf because you was sheep, you understand. So I went

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>to my grandma's house because I knew I didn't have

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 2>access to everything. And at my grandma's house for three days,

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't sleep because mine I got all this stuff

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 2>in my bain. I didn't sleep, like three four and eight,

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 2>like we And all of a sudden, I'm trying to

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 2>clean myself. I'm not I'm trying to keep it hidden

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>from my grandparents.

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>And but oh they don't know, but they know you're there.

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. So all of a sudden, it was like

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 2>late at one o'clock, two o'clock in the morning, I

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 2>started trembling that stuff and shaking and et cetera. And

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 2>my grandmother came out, said, Grandma, they knew I was

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.719
<v Speaker 2>strong at that time. Yeah, And they called the ambulance.

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 2>When they called the ambulance took they took me to

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 2>the hospital. And I'll never forget this as long as

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>I lived. Clean here, I am lying on a bit.

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I see my mom, I see my grant, my mother's mother,

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 2>and I see my father's mother, and I see my

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 2>family there like sticking me up with Ivy and the

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 2>other and they're looking at me like, not in disappointment,

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 2>but what happened to you? You know what I mean?

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 2>And I'll never forget looking up at them a tear drop.

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 2>That's when it was like reality hit me. So what happened.

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 2>That's why my heart is not as strong as it

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 2>is today because me at the time, being strung out

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 2>on cocaine, I didn't know. So at that time, what

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 2>happened was my family suggested I go to Philly, put

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 2>my aunt Bunnie on my father's side because she was

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 2>like a powerhouse. Oh yeah, she was like a little powerhouse.

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Get me out of Philadelphia because it was nothing there

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 2>but cracking cocaine going on. That was it. That was

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 2>doing a cracking cocaine era.

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 2>So I went ahead to Philly and Bunnie. Things didn't

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 2>work out well with her because she left me in

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 2>abandoned home for two weeks. Yeah, she left me with

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 2>peanut butter, jelly and water. Now she was determined to

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 2>make sure that I got clean out. It makes sense.

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 2>She's determined to help me. Now she's a powerhouse, you know,

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>She did that to help you, to help me out.

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 2>And I'll never forget this as long as I live.

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 2>So here, I am two weeks in in her building

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 2>with these hermit monster doors, and all I got is

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 2>peanut butter, jelly and water. Now, I didn't know that

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna I thought I was gonna be there

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 2>for the weekend. I had no idea, okay, that she

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 2>was gonna have me locked in there for two weeks.

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 2>In fact, it probably would have been a month. But

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I broke out because I could. I realized I couldn't

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.719
<v Speaker 2>even get out. I could get she locked me in.

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>That ain't funny, I'm sorry, but no, but her mission

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>was too exactly that was.

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Her mission anyway. I will never forget this as long

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>as I live here. I am lying down on the

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:46.959
<v Speaker 2>couch you back in day, you know when we had

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 2>those handsets and that cassette where you put the cassette in. Yeah,

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. I was listening to Luther

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Vandros at the time, lying down, you know what I mean,

0:33:54.480 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 2>pod alright, Then I dozed off and suddenly I don't

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 2>know how long I was asleep, but I woke up

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:08.720
<v Speaker 2>and I saw that I was very close to the ceiling,

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:14.720
<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking, why am I so close to the ceiling?

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 2>And I've put my fingers thrill and it's going through

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 2>the wall. So I scanned around, like what the world?

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 2>And the soft voice said, looked down. So I looked down.

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I saw my body there. What the hat sets my

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 2>whole frame there? I was like, and I slammed back

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 2>into my body cramp. I jumped a wallful. WHOA Ain't

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 2>nobody gonna believe this was I hallucinating? What was going on?

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 2>At that time? It was time to escape. It was

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 2>time to escape. It really was now Manie, like I said,

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 2>she had this big hermit monster door, like this mansion door.

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 2>That mom was gigan. It was big and the shatn

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.880
<v Speaker 2>feet tall. He was determined and he got these walls

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 2>on the side right here. So what I had to do.

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 2>I had to even put one foot on this wall,

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 2>one foot on this wall, climb up there. And there

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 2>was this window up top. That was the only way

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I could get out. I had to bust the window.

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 1>That room was small, No, the hallway.

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 2>The house it was a big it was a motel,

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 2>but it was up top and by this window up top,

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 2>so I had to climb up and I was weak,

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 2>So I knew that I had to make be successful

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 2>this first climb because I was physically weak. Got it,

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 2>you did? So I'm climbed up. Wa. I cramb onto

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:32.399
<v Speaker 2>the window real fast, and I and I cleared all

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 2>the glass from there, et cetera. And I looked down.

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, whoa shit, Oh that was a long fall.

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:40.359
<v Speaker 2>I was like, damn, it's gonna be a long ass wall,

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I said, but I gotta do it. And I couldn't

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.280
<v Speaker 2>turn my body around to let my legs go first.

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 2>My body would only go head first. So I counted one, two, three,

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 2>and I was ready for the fall. And as I

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 2>went through it, I was falling. It was just as

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 2>long as fall. Then I hit the ground boom. I'll

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 2>never forget it. I don't know. I must have passed

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 2>out because three four hours had passed by, but I

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 2>was on the other side and did.

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>The dag You free?

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>What friend Lance?

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Once I got through, came woke up a few

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 2>hours later, I unlocked the door and.

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I crawled out back on cameras.

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 2>I crawled out and I was free, just like I said,

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I found a phone. I called my mom collect I

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:24.359
<v Speaker 2>was crying. I told her what my aunt Bunny did

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 2>locked me in his place for two weeks. If I

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 2>still be locked up, keep you safe. My mom called

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 2>my brother, get me now, min My brothers one of

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 2>the biggest drug dealers in Philly. You did he come

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.399
<v Speaker 2>picked me up in the Camaro convertible, et cetera. Were

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 2>rolling on back from Philly going to the Projects. He's

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 2>look and the cop All of a sudden, the cops stoppers.

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what is people?

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 2>What is God? I said, you know what, you only

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:53.919
<v Speaker 2>stopped us because we blacked. It's a nice car, I said,

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 2>because we was up here in mind the own business.

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't nobody doing nothing?

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>But was there anything in the car?

0:36:57.719 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me tell you the car. So I just

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 2>after the officer he said go, He let us go.

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 2>So we're going down. My brother like that. That's a

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 2>bigger stop. He stopped at the Projects. He pops the trunk.

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Guess what he takes out bigs Adidas bag of crack

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:15.240
<v Speaker 2>and the biggest Deidas bag of cocaine.

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness.

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I was like, that's exactly what I thought.

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Holy gosh, Jesus was on your side.

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:27.719
<v Speaker 2>So that that was the story. So anyway, he goes,

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 2>drops it off. I'm there wait for him come back.

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:31.360
<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, I see him running out. He

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 2>jumps in the car, doesn't even open the door, and

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:34.839
<v Speaker 2>he tells me put my head down, put my hand.

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 2>He says, put your head down, and puts my head down.

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Way did dash for? You know what I'm saying. All

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden he he gears in reverse, God runs out.

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what, dude, you should have stayed in

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:46.439
<v Speaker 1>the house, Like whoa.

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 2>He gears up, peeling, peels up, takes me back to

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 2>the project. I tell my mom would have nothing like

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 2>this fool's creak. We just got shot at. We just

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 2>got shot at. Now I don't went the waters one man,

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 2>crazy and money. Yeah you understanding. I'm like a skeleton

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 2>this year.

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>The backtrack. It's not funny. But you we appreciate your

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:09.879
<v Speaker 1>aunt bunny though, right, appreciate it because you gotta think

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 1>these pivotal moments are will bring us to undefeated world champions.

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 1>So super grateful for the little evil bullies, but more

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 1>grateful for the aunt bunnies. That was like We're gonna

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>make sure you come out good. Obviously came out strong

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>because he took a leap of faith jumping off. Go ahead,

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.919
<v Speaker 1>let's start this dish. Let's try it. Yeah all right,

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:32.839
<v Speaker 1>so what are we doing?

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:34.840
<v Speaker 2>We just garlic steak?

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Garlic steak? All right, I'm gonna try the try a

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 1>couple of asparagus is and I don't really hear. Let

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:44.720
<v Speaker 1>me try to get one of your knives. I'm gonna

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 1>take this steak is so good, I may have to

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:49.839
<v Speaker 1>risk my entire internal.

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 2>So that's how that story ended.

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 1>But that's how. And by the way, your brother he

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:02.280
<v Speaker 1>knew that. Okay, my brother was your brother knew that

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:03.800
<v Speaker 1>you battled this addiction?

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Did he he didn't know?

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Everyone kept it from him. Did your mom know that

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 1>he was doing?

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, everybody doing. He was. Everybody knew who he was.

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Let's try this as well done. So you're not even

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 1>using a one sauce.

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's so good, it's good.

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, shout, I'll try it. So after all of this,

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 1>how do you end up getting back on track too?

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm telling So I go back to my

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 2>my father's people mine. There was a coach, very good

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 2>college coach. Good, thank you. This college coach, in fact,

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 2>coach has heard that I lost my scholarship because the

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 2>newspapers during the time that I was in New York,

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 2>they were reaching out to my grandmother. They wouldn't reach

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 2>out to my mom because they wouldn't make it into

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 2>the projects. They wouldn't make it out the projects. You

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 2>had to send somebody black into projects. Okay, you hear me,

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.879
<v Speaker 2>Just keeping the one hundred, I'll be big. He reached

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 2>out to my grandparents.

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:06.399
<v Speaker 1>There's a great stake, by the way, and I'm never forget.

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 2>During the time that I was at my grandmother's house,

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 2>I was getting myself together, and I'll never forget she's

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 2>this real nonsense a lot about it. Oh, by the way,

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 2>now that you're together, so they knew what they were doing.

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Send her, asked back, and Bunny, she'll take care of her,

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 2>she'll clean her out. Now that you're back together, I

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 2>wanted to let you know that this basketball college coach

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 2>has stopped by here, has been calling here checking up

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 2>on you. That's how I was too. I was like, what,

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 2>because Maya, I was never gonna play basketball again.

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>He did, and I said, I loved that there was

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 1>so much loving faith in you, like from everybody. But

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>gone continue.

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I said, what's his name? She said, Mike Tanagli.

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 2>In fact, here's his number. He's been calling here checking

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 2>up on you, so I reach out to him. He

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 2>takes me to care any college. It's all white school,

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 2>probably like three blacks. It's on the main line, so

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 2>it's adjacent de Villanova, so it's an upscale school. Me

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 2>coming from the project, I never seen BMW's and Mercedes

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 2>and Lamborghinis and all that stuff. I never saw that

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:18.319
<v Speaker 2>in real life on your TV. When I went to

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 2>that college. That's what I was seeing on the regular,

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 2>on the regular, every joy and wasn't nothing but money. Wow.

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 2>And he said, look, we know that you're a Division

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:34.279
<v Speaker 2>one athlete, ain't no doubt about. We also know that

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 2>there's no way that we would ever get someone of

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 2>your talent and your calenber here at this university. But

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:43.320
<v Speaker 2>we also know that you've had problems, you lost or

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 2>the Division one scholarship. Now this is the deal, free

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 2>to you. Here, I am amongst all these white men

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 2>businessmen university. You give us your talents and we'll make

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 2>sure that you get a good education.

0:41:56.080 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that was fair, right, Yeah, yeah.

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 2>We want you to build and turned on women's basketball

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 2>program around and our athlete programming around. Okay, I said deal,

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 2>and that's what I did, turning around, turned the whole

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 2>program around. They went from being Division one nai A

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 2>to the NCAA because of me, because I was already

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 2>in the NCAA Division one, so they already had my

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.320
<v Speaker 2>names in NCAAA. They already had my name in the system,

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 2>scores and things like that. Then when I went to

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 2>the Division three school, they have me my freedom Gives

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 2>name still there, but I'm in n AA ai A,

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 2>but I'm originally from NCAA. So what they did with

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 2>the university that I went to, they went ahead and

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 2>switched them to NCAA because of me, because my name

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 2>kept popping up at NCAA. All the people at the top,

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 2>they already knew who I was. That mentioned.

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So turned the whole program around, went and joined

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 3>went to the Olympics to try off because the European

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 3>What happened is the European basketball coach they come over here.

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:59.359
<v Speaker 2>To recruit Americans to go play basketball. And we went

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 2>to Colorada Springs to train for the European Basketball. Now

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 2>this is some crazy shit. I didn't know this even exists.

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Check this here out. So we would Colorado Springs for

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:09.919
<v Speaker 2>the Liperd trains and training for the basketball to join

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 2>the European Women's Basketball League, and we had to wear

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:17.799
<v Speaker 2>panty holes. I told the coach. I was like, nah, Bri,

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:20.359
<v Speaker 2>I ain't wearing no pantyhose. I said, One, I ain't

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 2>wearing no pantyhose because they itch. But two, I'm not

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 2>wearing no pantyhose because I never wore panty hose when

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 2>I was playing basketball.

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 1>But also it is in that harder to play basketball

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:30.399
<v Speaker 1>and pantyholes.

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I was not going to do it. So this is

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:38.240
<v Speaker 2>what happened. So all the girls had on their panty

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.840
<v Speaker 2>hose playing basketball, and I had on my shorts. Starting

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 2>from here, I was at the end of the girls

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:44.359
<v Speaker 2>checking prove Proofal you're on this team. You on this team.

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Then the coach says to me, all the European coach,

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do for you? I said? I said, sir,

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:50.839
<v Speaker 2>I didn't come here to make you dick hard. I

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 2>came here to play basketball.

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 1>They want shorts over the pantyhose.

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 2>No it was just pantyholes.

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, this is what I.

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Said, sir. I didn't come here to make your your

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 2>dick card. I came here to play basketball.

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I nodded their heads right and on their feet. I

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:13.399
<v Speaker 2>was going for a layup and one girl on this side,

0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 2>one girl on this side hit me both side, bam bam.

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I caught the girl on the left. But to this day,

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 2>that girl on the right, if ever I see her,

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get her.

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>No, you got registered hands.

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, she got me this one. She oh she

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:30.759
<v Speaker 2>is old. This one she got me on the right.

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:32.399
<v Speaker 2>And anyway, yeah, it got me real good.

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>They jumped whaying yeah while I was playing.

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:36.360
<v Speaker 2>And then they went ahead and put me on the

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.320
<v Speaker 2>European team. They put me on the European team on

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 2>this the losing this team. That record was zero and thirty,

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:46.240
<v Speaker 2>the worst team ever in Germany. They were zero wins

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 2>and thirty losses. But when I left, guess what they

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:51.400
<v Speaker 2>were champions.

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Wow, they were chams.

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 2>I took it to a whole nother level. I opened

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 2>them up.

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:59.000
<v Speaker 1>It was coming from where you came from, going to

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>being able to travel our season. Can we just walk

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 1>through that little that experience. Just for a brief second,

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I know we're going to go.

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:10.080
<v Speaker 2>It was tough. It was tough because during the time

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I came from a nice penhouse. But I mean I

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 2>had a bad car and I had an excellent career.

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:17.319
<v Speaker 2>You feel being a superstar at Cabrini. Oh, they came

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 2>and got me and recruited me for I had. It

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:23.240
<v Speaker 2>was excellent. Had I gone over there first and checked

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 2>it out, I would not have stayed. But because I

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:29.360
<v Speaker 2>gave everything away, my home and I was on the

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 2>twelfth floor, bad car and excellent career, and then I

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 2>went over there without visiting, I stayed. It was I

0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:41.320
<v Speaker 2>got paid two thousand a week. Wow, that was good money.

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 2>But the homes were European. It was something that I

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:49.760
<v Speaker 2>wasn't accustomed to. They were different. If ipartments were very different,

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't like them. They were just old agent.

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 2>During the time I was there, training was great. I

0:45:56.280 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>was there when the Berlin Wall came down. Now, mind you,

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know much about the Berlin Wall, but what

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I do know is that all the athletes are running

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 2>to the Berlin Wall. And I even see old women

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 2>people with canes, man female walking with Kynes and I

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:17.799
<v Speaker 2>can feel this energy and the energy is insurmountable. It's

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 2>absolutely powerful. And I'm just saying to myself, I don't

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 2>understand what they're saying, but what I do understand is

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:29.080
<v Speaker 2>that this energy is legacy. This must be history. It

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 2>has to be because I'm looking at everything with my

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:34.400
<v Speaker 2>eyes and they were like, yeah, get a piece of

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 2>the wall, Get a piece of the wall. In my mind,

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I ain't carrying no rocks around with me.

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Now I had wish I had, Yeah, because I didn't

0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 2>know then what I know now. You did. So that

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:48.840
<v Speaker 2>was a real cool experience. I spent a lot of

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 2>time in Amsterdam because I had to keep the balance.

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 2>You did travel aize, So I was there for two

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 2>years now Maya. I had to figure out what I

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 2>was gonna do because I didn't want to stay there

0:46:56.719 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 2>another year. Yeah, figure out whatever, So what am I

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna do from here? I saw Sin say, Benny the

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:05.400
<v Speaker 2>jet your ti dez from Van Nis on television. He

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:07.359
<v Speaker 2>was fighting that said that's what I want to do.

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:10.000
<v Speaker 2>So I wrote his address down and everything Darren counting

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Van night. And when I left jer I didn't resign

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:15.719
<v Speaker 2>my contract in basketball contractors. I went ahead and wrote

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 2>his information down. I caught the plane and when straight

0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 2>came straight to California, knocked on Sin and say Bennie

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:22.799
<v Speaker 2>the jet door and started working with him. And like

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:24.640
<v Speaker 2>I told him, I said, look, I want to learn karate.

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:26.359
<v Speaker 2>He knew I was something, you know. I said, I

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 2>want to learn kickboxing. I said, I don't know karate.

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I said, I don't know kickboxing, but I know karate.

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 2>I said, and I'm real coachable, So you teach me.

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll get it. So he went ahead and took me

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:39.240
<v Speaker 2>on his wing, introduced me to his brother. When his sister, Lily,

0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:41.840
<v Speaker 2>your teez got with those guys, and I started competing

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 2>left and right. That's when I started eating oodles and noodles.

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's when you started eating oodles, and when I

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 1>came okay, yeah, okay, so you and how different was

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the training between kickboxing and karate.

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:57.839
<v Speaker 2>It was very different because with kickboxing, you're kicking, you're

0:47:57.920 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 2>using your shins, you know what I mean. Your ship

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 2>is like a baseball bat, as opposed to with karate.

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:04.839
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you're kicking with the insect of your foot here,

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:08.359
<v Speaker 2>so you're like slapping. But with kickboxing, you're using this part.

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:10.399
<v Speaker 2>Let's say this is your leg. You're using this here,

0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:12.880
<v Speaker 2>this is your shin. And when your shin hits a rib,

0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:14.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, it can break a rib. When your shin

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 2>hits a head, it can break ahead. When your shin

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 2>hits an arm, it can break these four arms. When

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 2>your shin hits a thigh, it can break it. Because

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 2>our shin is real thick. It's like a baseball bat.

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 2>So our legs are like baseball bats, our arms are

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:27.840
<v Speaker 2>like boots.

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 1>That makes sense, especially the way you can do the

0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 1>same thing, dude, R.

0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 2>That my mom used to say, Hen, we're off, and cup,

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:39.319
<v Speaker 2>we're off for good.

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Now your mom's fully into what you do now, one

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:43.279
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent right.

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 2>My mom's big tongue, big tongue.

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I love your Yeah, my mom's best.

0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely. So anyway, I got to fight for a

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 2>world championship fight. So what happened? I need to Like

0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 2>I said, I was eatings and I need to make money.

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 2>And I started working for AT and T and I

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 2>got bit into a Domino's game by this girl named Benita.

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 2>And when I went to Domino's down at Inglewood, Lonnie,

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:04.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know Lonnie Franklin Junior, the grim Sleeper. He

0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:07.640
<v Speaker 2>had killed over one hundred black women down in Inglewood.

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, here raped and killed him Jesus. But what happened?

0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately I had met him at a Dominoes game because

0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:15.279
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know how to play dominance. We were playing domins.

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:16.960
<v Speaker 2>He offered me a right's like two three o'clock in

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 2>the morning, and that's when I realized what the heck

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:24.880
<v Speaker 2>it was real crowd. I realized I'm around people I

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 2>don't even know. It's two three o'clock in the morning.

0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:31.719
<v Speaker 2>And then Lonnie gave me a drink and I took

0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:33.160
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of it. Then all of a sudden,

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I started films tired, so I walked So I walked

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:39.360
<v Speaker 2>into the bathroom to throw water on my face clearhself.

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:41.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, look, two three o'clock, it's time for me

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:43.719
<v Speaker 2>to go. Already lost all my pay check every day,

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 2>that was all my Money's not for me to go.

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Threw water on my first And when I walked out

0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:49.680
<v Speaker 2>the door, Lonnie was there, and I was like, yo, man, chill,

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:51.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't roll like that, because I thought he was

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Benita's due. Because Benita is the one who invited me

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:56.560
<v Speaker 2>to the game, to the Dominoes game. Anyway, So I'm like, Benita, look,

0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:58.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to go. Yeah, she said, why don't you start?

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 2>I said, no, I don't know nobody. I don't want

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:01.960
<v Speaker 2>to stay here. I want to go home and see

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 2>my own bed, she said. And then Lonnie said, well,

0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 2>I take you home. And me knowing me and me

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:10.600
<v Speaker 2>growing up around fourteen guys, because my mother has eight brothers,

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 2>and then my dad's brothers, and me growing around, growing

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:15.680
<v Speaker 2>up around, and then me growing up martial arts, I

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 2>felt I thought that was cool. I felt I could

0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 2>handle myself. It wasn't thinking that. So anyway, I go

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:24.160
<v Speaker 2>to he opens the door, Lonnie does, and he opens

0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 2>the door at the van door and I get on in. Now,

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:29.400
<v Speaker 2>when I get in, he shut the door. I heard something,

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 2>you understand. I heard something with the lock. When I

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 2>heard something with the lock, my thoughts for father, Please

0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 2>don't let me have to fuck this man up. You understand,

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 2>because I heard something with the lock. You dig So

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:48.759
<v Speaker 2>I get on in. We driving, I say, turn right.

0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:51.400
<v Speaker 2>He turned left. I'm mind you. I'm a little dizzy,

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:53.359
<v Speaker 2>light headed, so I'm trying to get some air because

0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 2>he obviously puts something in my drink. So my head's

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 2>leaning on the window and saying, I said, turn right.

0:50:57.600 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 2>He turned left. I said, yo, bro, you're going wrong.

0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 2>What Then next thing I know, we wind up in

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:05.520
<v Speaker 2>this secluded area with nothing but fall And first thing

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:07.839
<v Speaker 2>he says is let me stick it in and I'll

0:51:07.840 --> 0:51:11.160
<v Speaker 2>take you home. I said, yo, Bron, I said no,

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:13.839
<v Speaker 2>you let me out this van. You will never see

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 2>me again, and Benita would never see me again. So

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:20.400
<v Speaker 2>when he said that, I'm reaching for the knob to

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:22.959
<v Speaker 2>try to open the door, and I'm fumbling around. There's

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:25.319
<v Speaker 2>no knob, so I'm reaching for the other knob to

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:27.600
<v Speaker 2>roll the window down. There's no wind. I can't roll

0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:30.440
<v Speaker 2>the window down, so I had to look. So then

0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 2>when I'm looking, then when I turned back, I saw

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:35.799
<v Speaker 2>him his face totally transformed. He had a belt on

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:38.399
<v Speaker 2>his fist. Oh no, And he said, let me stick

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 2>it in and I'll take you home. I said, no, man,

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 2>let me out this van. Then that's when he went

0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:45.040
<v Speaker 2>to punch boom. And when he went to punch me

0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 2>in my face and my temple, that's when I blocked it.

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Boom I hang bam, and I ran to the back

0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:51.920
<v Speaker 2>of the van. I ran as hard as I could

0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:53.160
<v Speaker 2>to the back of the bed, and soon as I

0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:54.720
<v Speaker 2>got to the back of the bed, as a big

0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 2>ass chain on it in the lock, I couldn't get out.

0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I said, wait, fuck inside the.

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Inside the van and yeah, I ran to the back

0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:03.920
<v Speaker 2>of the van to get escaped, and I ran right

0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:05.800
<v Speaker 2>into his strap. There's a big ass chain on it. Like,

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:08.160
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't get out. So I turned my back toward

0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:09.799
<v Speaker 2>him that he was coming to the back of the van,

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:12.080
<v Speaker 2>and I figured my only way out is to get

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 2>out his door, because that's the way he got in.

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:16.440
<v Speaker 2>So I went diving packed. I want to push him back.

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I went for by him boom, and I went to

0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:21.160
<v Speaker 2>try to open the door and on his door, and

0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:22.880
<v Speaker 2>that's when he grabbed my legs and pulled me to

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:25.040
<v Speaker 2>the back of the van and then bull flipped me

0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:26.799
<v Speaker 2>over and he got on top of me. I'll never

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:27.879
<v Speaker 2>forget as long as I lift.

0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:29.760
<v Speaker 1>You're the grownd snatching right.

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he said that the hotel. He said, let me

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:33.719
<v Speaker 2>stick it in and I'll take you home. He on

0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:36.440
<v Speaker 2>top of me. I said, no, man, nah, let me out.

0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:39.840
<v Speaker 2>This damn band. You'll never see me again, and Benita

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:43.280
<v Speaker 2>damn show, will never see me here, he said. I said.

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:45.359
<v Speaker 2>He was getting angry and I could see he said.

0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I said, let me stick it in and I'll take

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:50.520
<v Speaker 2>you home. And he was real calm about that shit,

0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:54.080
<v Speaker 2>and I said no. And then he said it again,

0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:56.560
<v Speaker 2>this time with much force on my wrist, and the

0:52:56.680 --> 0:53:02.960
<v Speaker 2>voice said just let him exactly. I said okay. I

0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:06.799
<v Speaker 2>said okay. As soon as he released my wrists, I

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:09.080
<v Speaker 2>was up against the wall. I was back up on

0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:11.279
<v Speaker 2>my feet and up against the van. That's when I

0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 2>started throwing jabs at him, pop crossing, pop, throwing leg

0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 2>kicks at him, bop chopping that one leg, jop bop.

0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I was just chopping pop chop pumped. Then all of

0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:23.479
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, he was like, oh shit, you weren't them

0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:29.319
<v Speaker 2>fighting bitches? Yeah sucking. I was chopping that leg down

0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:31.840
<v Speaker 2>boom boom. All of a sudden, I saw fear in

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 2>his eyes because I knew that leg was going down.

0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:37.000
<v Speaker 2>It was going down out because my legs are like axes.

0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you got.

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Bamit busting boom. Moved to the side and say, yeah, pops,

0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:44.239
<v Speaker 2>left leg boom. Moving back to the rights out jab

0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:46.680
<v Speaker 2>boom boom. I was just chopping. Then all of a sudden,

0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:48.360
<v Speaker 2>he came running at me like a football player, and

0:53:48.400 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 2>he tackled to tackle me, and I hit up against

0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 2>the van and when he went to tackle me, I

0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:55.000
<v Speaker 2>grabbed it into his shirt tail. I pulled it over

0:53:55.160 --> 0:53:58.160
<v Speaker 2>to tied it swung him down. I ran down. I

0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:00.960
<v Speaker 2>grabbed his pants, I pulled it over shoes. I stepped

0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:04.440
<v Speaker 2>on the chest and that's when I grabbed his dick. Yeah, buddy,

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:07.000
<v Speaker 2>because I'm a dick grabber. And I said, where the keys?

0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:10.880
<v Speaker 2>That motherfucker he was like, I get out? Oh some down?

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:13.759
<v Speaker 2>You want me to get out? When I wanted to

0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:17.400
<v Speaker 2>get out, I had to let you stick it in first, Okay,

0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:19.400
<v Speaker 2>I said, where the keys at? I had, you know,

0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:23.400
<v Speaker 2>live my parking in PA. Which one I reached and

0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:25.520
<v Speaker 2>I pull out? He got a gang of keys on there,

0:54:25.680 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 2>gang up. I said, which one is it? He says

0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:30.560
<v Speaker 2>the orange. I grabbed theim food food and I pulled

0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:33.239
<v Speaker 2>him all the way over. Two threes. Get up, get

0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:35.400
<v Speaker 2>up and shout out you wanted. When I wanted to

0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:37.000
<v Speaker 2>get out, I had to let stick it and shut

0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:40.759
<v Speaker 2>out I unlocked the door, pulled the chain off. I

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:41.319
<v Speaker 2>kicked it over.

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:43.440
<v Speaker 1>You're grabbing him by the dick. The whole time, I got.

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:45.840
<v Speaker 2>That motherfucker holding on, clamping on. I didn't know balls

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:47.879
<v Speaker 2>and dick. It even moved like that girl. I didn't

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:50.440
<v Speaker 2>know that. Get stretched that damn high. I had no clue.

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:53.239
<v Speaker 2>But I'm turning. I still stayed on his chest. I

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:55.520
<v Speaker 2>had no clues. I was holding on to him, and

0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I moved over. He said, I said, now, if ever

0:54:58.600 --> 0:54:59.920
<v Speaker 2>you see me on the streets, what are you going

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:04.360
<v Speaker 2>to say? He said Hi. I was like, He's like,

0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I said, no, you're not, motherfucker. If ever you see

0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:09.080
<v Speaker 2>me on the street, you're gonna go the opposite direction.

0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:13.879
<v Speaker 2>Do you underfucking stand me? He said, you know, get out?

0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:17.400
<v Speaker 2>And one more stuff. I made sure I was outdy,

0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I had my ass still had on. He had the

0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:24.680
<v Speaker 2>danger like his balls, everything on. One more that's had inside.

0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:27.799
<v Speaker 2>I had to say, Claire, I said, one more thing.

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:30.840
<v Speaker 2>When the bed says no, she means no. And I

0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:33.880
<v Speaker 2>rocked him fire and I started walking out, and I

0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:36.319
<v Speaker 2>tossed the keys and I walked into a whole lot

0:55:36.320 --> 0:55:39.279
<v Speaker 2>of fog. So I kept falling, trying to find.

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:41.920
<v Speaker 1>You're still you still got the stuff in you there and.

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:43.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to fall and trying to find my way

0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:46.160
<v Speaker 2>and all this fall, and all of a sudden, Colin,

0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:50.040
<v Speaker 2>I see these two tiny dots, two tiny dots, two lights,

0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:52.520
<v Speaker 2>and I'm walking toward them close and the closer I get,

0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:54.879
<v Speaker 2>the light get bigger and bigger. Then all of a sudden,

0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 2>I go on the other side of the fog and

0:55:56.560 --> 0:56:00.560
<v Speaker 2>the car and guess what it was a yellow cab

0:56:00.600 --> 0:56:03.640
<v Speaker 2>with an old white man in it. He was just

0:56:03.680 --> 0:56:06.479
<v Speaker 2>sitting there with the lights on him. Oh wow, looking

0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:10.200
<v Speaker 2>thank you so again. And I said, and my shirt

0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:13.120
<v Speaker 2>on halfway off Teddy hanging out loft, dare shoes ranking

0:56:13.200 --> 0:56:16.040
<v Speaker 2>air ring all that shit, oh shit hanging out. And

0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:17.719
<v Speaker 2>I said, this guy tried to rape me. Gotta get

0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:20.359
<v Speaker 2>me out of here. He says, okay, so he takes off.

0:56:20.400 --> 0:56:23.920
<v Speaker 2>He takes me to my place, and I'm just thinking

0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:26.319
<v Speaker 2>I gotta pay him. So I go up. I said,

0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:28.520
<v Speaker 2>hang tight, I'm gonna I'm gonna pay you. Soon as

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I go to the door and I turned back, the

0:56:30.480 --> 0:56:36.960
<v Speaker 2>cabin is gone. The cabin is gone. I'm like, go

0:56:37.000 --> 0:56:39.840
<v Speaker 2>and side pick the phone up. I called my mom,

0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:42.200
<v Speaker 2>this dude tried to rape me. I went out of

0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:45.160
<v Speaker 2>California right now. She said, what I said, the dude

0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:47.839
<v Speaker 2>tried to rape me. I went out of California right now.

0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:52.879
<v Speaker 2>She said, did Sissy, did he rape you? I said no,

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 2>I fucked him up. She said, good. Then it was

0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:59.919
<v Speaker 2>a fight, and you want to fight, We'll get you home.

0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:01.719
<v Speaker 2>We'll get you home. And I was on the next

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:05.239
<v Speaker 2>flight back to Philly. Bad shit went. So anyway, I'm

0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:07.520
<v Speaker 2>back home Philly and stuff like that. Shall it stop

0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 2>or continue?

0:57:08.760 --> 0:57:14.120
<v Speaker 1>You can continue. We're over time, guys, you understand.

0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I go back to Philly. I'm like tripping

0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:18.800
<v Speaker 2>out on an airplane. I'm tripping now. First of all,

0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:20.920
<v Speaker 2>on the airplane. I'm tripping out because I'm still fighting,

0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:23.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean fighting. I don't trust nobody now.

0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:27.080
<v Speaker 2>And my my everything is just hyper my hearing. I

0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:30.280
<v Speaker 2>hear everybody, and I hear everything everybody's saying. But everything

0:57:30.360 --> 0:57:32.840
<v Speaker 2>is just I heard everything. So anyway, get back to Philly.

0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:35.720
<v Speaker 2>My family's there, hug My tell was going down. I'm

0:57:35.720 --> 0:57:38.080
<v Speaker 2>never gonna come. I'm never coming back to California again.

0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:39.880
<v Speaker 2>That was it. I didn't care. Leave all the material

0:57:39.920 --> 0:57:41.640
<v Speaker 2>leading card, all this stuff, I didn't care. I didn't care.

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:44.440
<v Speaker 1>That's how traumatic that experience was.

0:57:44.560 --> 0:57:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm never coming back to California again. So anyway,

0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:48.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm back home. My fight team doesn't know that I'm

0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 2>back home because we never really talked about our personal lives.

0:57:51.080 --> 0:57:53.000
<v Speaker 2>We only talked about fighting. So anyway, I'm back home

0:57:53.120 --> 0:57:55.200
<v Speaker 2>my mom. Since he stopped because I'm talking and turning out.

0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:57.560
<v Speaker 2>If we didn't realize I had PTSD, you know what

0:57:57.640 --> 0:57:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, That's how I acquired TSD from that experience.

0:58:00.000 --> 0:58:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Cause I'm telling you, I was traumatized, but I was experience.

0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 2>But I was ready for him.

0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:06.120
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, you know you was beyond ready. Let me

0:58:06.160 --> 0:58:07.919
<v Speaker 1>tell you something. They could do a whole movie around

0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that scene.

0:58:08.320 --> 0:58:10.320
<v Speaker 2>You know. That's funny. As moving forward to what happened

0:58:10.440 --> 0:58:12.880
<v Speaker 2>was I get this call from California Bennie de jet

0:58:12.960 --> 0:58:15.240
<v Speaker 2>thin Kidas, Hey, we got this opportunity for you to

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:17.440
<v Speaker 2>fight for a world title. I was like what, I

0:58:17.600 --> 0:58:20.040
<v Speaker 2>was like, y'all coming to New York. I ain't going

0:58:20.080 --> 0:58:25.480
<v Speaker 2>to calling you. So my other coach, Davies, Look, you

0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:27.360
<v Speaker 2>got everything to gain, nothing to lose, now mind. They

0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:29.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know what I just went to. I said, man, look,

0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not coming back. Man, I ain't coming back there.

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:33.200
<v Speaker 2>They said, but you got opportunity to fight the most

0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 2>dangerous woman in the world. So what happened? She was

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:38.640
<v Speaker 2>on David Lennoman, right, and that's and they was like, Fredia,

0:58:38.680 --> 0:58:41.000
<v Speaker 2>free your turn TV. I'm back here in Philly. I'm like,

0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:44.000
<v Speaker 2>it's turn TV. So I see her, they like, and

0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:46.360
<v Speaker 2>the guy says to her, no, it's Johnny Carson, and

0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:48.840
<v Speaker 2>he says, if you're the most dangerous woman in the world,

0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 2>He said, how can you be the most dangerous woman

0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:54.120
<v Speaker 2>in the world when you've never fought anyone in America?

0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:57.320
<v Speaker 2>And she said, I am here to fight flee g

0:58:57.520 --> 0:59:00.600
<v Speaker 2>I Gibbs in her French accent, and that kind of

0:59:00.680 --> 0:59:04.160
<v Speaker 2>inspired me. But it Morse inspired my mom, you understand.

0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Morse inspired my grandma because my mom was like, what's

0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:14.520
<v Speaker 2>a record? I said, twenty eight and two. My mom said, shit,

0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:17.360
<v Speaker 2>she ain't that damn dang s Gotta asked, well twice

0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:20.360
<v Speaker 2>you got damn tell her. I said that Jordan wanted her.

0:59:20.400 --> 0:59:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Mama warned her about you understand, and I was like,

0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I ain't gone. And then my grandmom says, listen, you

0:59:28.600 --> 0:59:32.440
<v Speaker 2>are star Fredia, and your job is to go out

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:36.760
<v Speaker 2>there and let the world know you're a star. Go Na,

0:59:36.880 --> 0:59:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I ain't gone. I'm talking. I'm not gone. So then

0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:43.480
<v Speaker 2>and then finally I just want to decided, you know what, Okay,

0:59:43.520 --> 0:59:45.200
<v Speaker 2>my mom's lord, let's look at the map. I wanted

0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:48.200
<v Speaker 2>to look at the map. Where is Inglewood on the map?

0:59:48.880 --> 0:59:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Down there? Okay, I'm up here in Van and that's okay, okay, okay,

0:59:51.800 --> 0:59:54.120
<v Speaker 2>big difference. Okay, I handled that part, but I had

0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:56.600
<v Speaker 2>to see it. That makes it. I wanted to make sure,

0:59:56.640 --> 0:59:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I say, because I didn't want to run into him

1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:02.240
<v Speaker 2>on the streets. And I want to tell you this here.

1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Throughout from nineteen ninety three up until the day that

1:00:04.600 --> 1:00:07.520
<v Speaker 2>they call him, I've always looked over my shoulders in

1:00:07.600 --> 1:00:08.960
<v Speaker 2>fear that I would run into him.

1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:13.880
<v Speaker 1>You know what, is into ash And you still have.

1:00:14.080 --> 1:00:17.160
<v Speaker 2>That, yeah, because yeah, because I've never had First of all,

1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I've never been caught and damn sardine can with someone

1:00:20.520 --> 1:00:23.360
<v Speaker 2>who was really trying to really rape me. You understand,

1:00:23.560 --> 1:00:27.160
<v Speaker 2>I've never experienced that before ever, And it was a

1:00:27.280 --> 1:00:30.000
<v Speaker 2>different kind of vibe. It was a different kind of energy,

1:00:30.280 --> 1:00:33.280
<v Speaker 2>and it was a different kind of beast that I

1:00:33.400 --> 1:00:35.520
<v Speaker 2>was dealing with, which forced me to bring out a

1:00:35.680 --> 1:00:37.800
<v Speaker 2>beast in me that I didn't know I had it.

1:00:37.920 --> 1:00:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that makes just make sense.

1:00:41.240 --> 1:00:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So anyway, so I went ahead and took the

1:00:44.200 --> 1:00:47.720
<v Speaker 2>fight Championship. Fight, came back, started training with Saxon jan Jier.

1:00:47.800 --> 1:00:50.240
<v Speaker 2>We did our magic there u c LA Drake Stadium.

1:00:50.480 --> 1:00:54.560
<v Speaker 2>We prepared for kickboxing, multi kickboxing. We drive to San Jose.

1:00:55.080 --> 1:00:57.400
<v Speaker 2>She's standing there looking off flying. You could tell she

1:00:57.560 --> 1:01:00.040
<v Speaker 2>was a superstar. You could really tell. She's stand and

1:01:00.040 --> 1:01:02.560
<v Speaker 2>they're looking press conference. She looking fly dress on first,

1:01:02.640 --> 1:01:06.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking dress. My thought was this girl looking off flying? Shit?

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<v Speaker 2>Did she come here to model? I came here to fight?

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<v Speaker 2>You did? Okay? Fine, So she comes up to me

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<v Speaker 2>and she says to me and oh she got this

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<v Speaker 2>whole entourroze all the French people. I looked on the

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<v Speaker 2>mop and I couldn't fight Chester and everybody started laughing.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, bitch, tonight, not only will you find Chester

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<v Speaker 2>on the map, I want you to know that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the one your mama warned your ball. Okay, oh okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just stood there looked at her. Undefeated guys

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, I was, yeah, I was undefeated. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like eleven and oh with ten knockouts at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, we started fighting there and then before we

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<v Speaker 2>go to fight, what happened is the promoter comes and

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<v Speaker 2>he says, we're gonna switch the fight from muy tier kickboxing.

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<v Speaker 2>And they was like, listen, her leg's gonna get tired

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<v Speaker 2>quickly because I was trained for more time. And then

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<v Speaker 2>that's when my coach said to me, look, all the

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<v Speaker 2>cars are stacked against you. They think that you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a punching bag. You understand, I said, man,

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<v Speaker 2>she and I'd have had over three hundred fights. If

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<v Speaker 2>they don't know, I had over three hundred fights in Philly, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't know. They call me Lady Jack Johnson and

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<v Speaker 2>the Projects. Yet I'm from the projects. Man, I ain't

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<v Speaker 2>worrying about that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my mind setting.

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<v Speaker 2>So as I'm walking through to the ring, I hear

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<v Speaker 2>these people yelling that's the black girl who came here

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<v Speaker 2>to get knocked out. And at that time, that's when

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<v Speaker 2>I said a silent prayer to God, tonight, Father, we

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<v Speaker 2>are going to shock the world. You understand, we got

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<v Speaker 2>in the ring. She was off here. Yeah, I got her.

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<v Speaker 2>I got her. She come over. Bam, baby, she got me.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know girls, and look that damn fine could

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<v Speaker 2>fight well, she could put it all you shit. She

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<v Speaker 2>was putting it on me. And for real, she's putting

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<v Speaker 2>on me. And I was really surprised because when I

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<v Speaker 2>saw her, she was flying, feminine and sexy. I was

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<v Speaker 2>not real athletic like me, understand, and I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>so she's putting it on me. So I had to

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<v Speaker 2>grab her. Then I said, okay, hold on, I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>for a real tough one. So we started going in

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<v Speaker 2>and boom. First round, yes, she won. Second round, we

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna oh boom, bam you fine? Yes? So yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>keep you bad you chest yet, So we're going there.

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<v Speaker 2>Then all of a sudden, the third round, I started

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<v Speaker 2>my legs were getting tired. Yeah, so I had to

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<v Speaker 2>reach deep down inside because I was seeing myself fall.

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<v Speaker 2>You know the old saying you see it, believe it achieved.

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<v Speaker 2>I was seeing myself fall. I was like no. I

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<v Speaker 2>kept saying no, and I can't fight no. Then I

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<v Speaker 2>said father, I had to reach deep and the and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Father, helped me. My legs are getting tired.

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<v Speaker 2>Help me, Father, This is what I was saying. And

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden I kicked Bam and she went

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<v Speaker 2>to throw a punch and I came back and through

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<v Speaker 2>one of those project hooks from the project I called

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<v Speaker 2>my project Bram and she it connected with her and

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<v Speaker 2>the temple and it spent her around that I hit

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<v Speaker 2>her again, Bram.

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<v Speaker 1>And she went on down.

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<v Speaker 2>At that time, it was amazing. I stood over her.

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<v Speaker 2>The referee count. I sitot over her with my hands

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<v Speaker 2>up and listen to this. Here there is a picture

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<v Speaker 2>of me standing over the most dangerous woman in the

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<v Speaker 2>world in front of over twenty thousand people in the arena.

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<v Speaker 2>And the clock right there says age sixteen. A sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>is my mama's birthday. Damn. Wow, that's down in history.

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<v Speaker 2>Ain't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's nice?

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<v Speaker 2>I love So that's the story. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just tell you something. They you need a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>You need a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you maya video my short film video that was

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<v Speaker 2>created by Sideline. I want to give them props. And

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<v Speaker 2>then we I went ahead and got collaborated with gold Casts.

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<v Speaker 2>They're very huge in Canada, and then I had an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to collaborate with TF you Sports and all of

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<v Speaker 2>us collectively, we got over seventeen million views which would

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<v Speaker 2>viral and hopefully something's real good in the basket there.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's very important that we learned to move in

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<v Speaker 2>silence and win in silence. And once we've won in silence,

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<v Speaker 2>then we can share it with the world. That makes sense, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know there are enemies, there are people out there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's wolves out there, wol if it's one thing we

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<v Speaker 1>learned from this interview, there are wolves out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to tell you Little ride Hood is a

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<v Speaker 2>true story. Yeah, what you want to do is flip

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<v Speaker 2>the script on the wolf. That's my mom used to

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<v Speaker 2>tell me, Sissy, little Red riding Hood. That's a true story, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>But you want to learn to flip the script on

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<v Speaker 2>the wolf. Do you understand me? That's very real.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very real. It's a great way to close out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>With that being said, can people do to keep up

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<v Speaker 1>with that Chitta?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? You could just follow me on Instagram, Facebook, all

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<v Speaker 2>of them Twitter. It's just Freedia and the Cheetah Gibbs

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<v Speaker 2>at y'all Freda the Cheatah gibs your dig. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's your dig at the end, Fredia the Cheatah

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<v Speaker 1>Cheetah gibbs your dig on all social media platforms. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for cooking for me, and the meal

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<v Speaker 1>was for the Champion side of life. She ate noodles

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<v Speaker 1>and noodles and this story was truly incredible. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for your time, Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, thoroughly, thoroughly inspired by your entire story.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I appreciate you know, I thoroughly appreciate you guys

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<v Speaker 2>inviting me. It's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was fun, right, and you make bamba spirious.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't even try it?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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