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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coleen Witt, and today we have very

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Speaker 1: special guests. Three times undefeated world kickboxing champion Fridia Gibbs

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Speaker 1: aka the Cheetah is in the building. How are you

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Speaker 1: so fantastic?

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Speaker 2: Colle Thank you for having me. How you doing I'm

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Speaker 2: doing good.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to have you cooked for me.

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Speaker 2: Am.

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Speaker 1: I and I have never got I don't think I've

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Speaker 1: ever been able to interview a obviously, never interviewed an

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Speaker 1: undefeated three time world champion in any sport, but let

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Speaker 1: alone kickboxing before. But before we get into all the conversations,

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Speaker 1: I need to know what are you gonna have me

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Speaker 1: eating today?

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Speaker 2: Okay, today we are going to eat some steak in asparic.

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Speaker 1: Steak and asparagus. Okay, what are all the ingredients to

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Speaker 1: make this this extra special?

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Speaker 2: The ingredients to make this extra special? Obf, she gotta

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Speaker 2: have a one sauce, you gotta have virgin oil. There

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Speaker 2: are we gonna include butter, salt, pepper, garlic, salt, and

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Speaker 2: some my garlic globe.

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Speaker 1: Okay, got it? And asparagus and stick. Now, if you

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Speaker 1: guys are EVI a listener to eating while broke. I

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Speaker 1: don't eat red meat, so out of the spirit of

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Speaker 1: the show, I will take a bite and I will

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Speaker 1: judge her very hard. Okay, and I don't even I

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Speaker 1: don't think. I think the last time I tried a

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Speaker 1: one or steak sauce was like probably like when I

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Speaker 1: was like twelve or something. So we're gonna really live

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Speaker 1: it up today on the show. So go ahead. See,

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Speaker 1: we don't leave you a lot of cooking room. Hun,

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna really box it out right now?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to like, chap.

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Speaker 1: This is a this is like a fake. This is

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Speaker 1: a stove set.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta look out marinate that through. You gotta

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Speaker 2: throw some karate chops at the steak there flipping the

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Speaker 2: steak here on. During the time that I'm flipping the steak,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about all the times I had to flip

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Speaker 2: my mindset for from survival to success. That makes sense. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: had added a little bit of garlic salt on my

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Speaker 2: survival mode. That makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen someone beat up with steak like this.

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Speaker 2: But I had add a little bit of that there.

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Speaker 2: I had to go into that success mode cooking. Now

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Speaker 2: what it makes me feel like I feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: celebrating progress.

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Speaker 1: Now, okay, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna add some salt and some pepper. We already

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Speaker 2: add the garlic salt there, right, yeah, add a little

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Speaker 2: pepper there.

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Speaker 1: This is I think he is one of those twisters.

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Speaker 1: I think you got it right here.

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Speaker 2: Show me.

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Speaker 1: Let me try to help you out. Poor steak is

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Speaker 1: about to get murdered. She's frying up the garlic. She

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Speaker 1: done beat up the steak for real with her hands,

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Speaker 1: seasoned it with steak. It was salt pepper. Now you're

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Speaker 1: going in with the butter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, going in with the butter, baby girl.

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Speaker 1: All right? Now, is this that's just for the steak,

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Speaker 1: right yeah?

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Speaker 2: This is for the steak and asparagus.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right.

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Speaker 2: See what a lot of people don't know is you

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Speaker 2: got to cook the asparagus and the steaker. There got

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Speaker 2: cooking combined. That's why you cooked the steak first.

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Speaker 1: So essentially you're put in the butter, the garlic you

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Speaker 1: see in the steak, and the asparagus is all going

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Speaker 1: into one pot exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because when I was broke, I only had one pot,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And that's the one pot

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Speaker 2: that I used, and I learned how to cook multiple

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Speaker 2: different foods than the one pot. It makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you was always washing dishes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't like washing dishes. That's why I

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Speaker 2: always had one pot, one big plate.

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Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. After every meal you had.

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Speaker 2: To wash it.

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Speaker 1: I always had a dish washing okay, okay, so you

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Speaker 1: wash your three three, your three four.

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Speaker 2: No, I would wait until they pile up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I'll just keep buying dishes. Oh god, you're hilarious. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So take me back to what was going on during

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Speaker 1: the steak and asparagus error. Take you back to one

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Speaker 1: What was going on during this time.

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Speaker 2: Back when I was broke. I had to dress up

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Speaker 2: oodles and noodles, That makes sense. Yeah, And I would

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Speaker 2: call a t bone steak and asparagus because that's something

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Speaker 2: that was like my vision. Yeah, during that time when

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Speaker 2: just done here. I had to season it with some

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Speaker 2: with faith because I was only eating noodles and noodles,

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Speaker 2: how it was broke.

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Speaker 1: But were you eating oodles and noodles or were you

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Speaker 1: eating steak and asparagus.

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Speaker 2: Back in the day when I was broke, I was

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Speaker 2: eating oodles and noodles, but my vision was to have

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Speaker 2: steak and asparagus. I couldn't ford steak at the time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what did you you ate noodle ramen noodles?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I would mix it up with the vegetables and

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Speaker 2: chick a little bit of chicken here and the steak

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Speaker 2: here and there, and just mix it up and make it.

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Speaker 2: Look when you go into these ramen stores today, what

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Speaker 2: do you see they mix it up with everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they got that from me.

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Speaker 1: You're hilarious, you know they got that. Wait, why are

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Speaker 1: you making steak in this?

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Speaker 2: This is what I'm cooking today because this is what

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Speaker 2: I strive for. This is what's my vision.

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Speaker 1: Oh you know, so you switched up our whole show today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to be cooking me a broken dish.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I was wondering the whole time.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh damn, she has me.

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Speaker 1: Take me back to the oodles and noodles day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: take me back to what was going on during that era.

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Speaker 2: Oh what jeez, man.

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Speaker 1: Take me back time and everything it's okay for putting

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, okay. Well, during the oodles and noodles era,

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Speaker 2: that was doing my fighting, Ara, I didn't really have

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Speaker 2: a job. I had to fight for food, meaning that

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Speaker 2: during the time I was competing, but I wasn't getting

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Speaker 2: paid at the time because I was just an amateur.

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Speaker 2: I was working side gigs. I had to fight. Like

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Speaker 2: I said, I had to fight for food. I had

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Speaker 2: to figure out how I was going to keep the

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Speaker 2: roof over my head during my oodls and noodles days

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Speaker 2: and back in those days keeping my oodles and noodles.

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Speaker 2: They coming back to twelve.

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Speaker 1: But before you started fighting for it, where did the

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Speaker 1: oodles and noodles start? Take me back to like, prior

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Speaker 1: to you even starting to fantasize about kick boxing, Take

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Speaker 1: me back to your childhood life.

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Speaker 2: Childhood life, Oh jeez. I'm obviously from Chester, Pennsylvania, south

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Speaker 2: side of Philadelphia, from the projects there a fairground project

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Speaker 2: during those days. We grew up very poor, but we

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Speaker 2: didn't know we were poor. That makes sense, Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: that's when moms was back on welfare during those days,

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Speaker 2: back that time. Sosehold, I've always come from a two

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Speaker 2: great grandfather and grandmother. So I've always come from a

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Speaker 2: two parent house. How many kids, it's three. I'm the

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Speaker 1: Okay, did anyone else get into kickboxinger.

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Speaker 2: No, my brother got into fighting. My sister she'd got

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Speaker 2: into boys. But you know how that works, right, Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, so you come from this two parent household,

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Speaker 1: idea that you want to get into a very kickboxing. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I used to get Yeah, I was gonna say, I

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Speaker 1: want to say an untraditional sport. But okay, you were

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Speaker 1: getting bullied a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to get bullied a lot. It was

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Speaker 2: pretty smart in school. In elementary school, and the girls

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Speaker 2: At first, I started out helping them. You start off

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Speaker 2: because I was always excelling in class. And then it

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Speaker 2: the point where I was tired of doing their homework.

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Speaker 2: And when I decided that I was tired of doing

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Speaker 2: that's when they decided to beat me up and toss

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Speaker 1: Oh no, we were you.

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Speaker 2: I believe I was bullied.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could believe it. There's a lot of people

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Speaker 2: I was a little medium height, little muskar as. I

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Speaker 1: So these girls started bullying you. Did you go home

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Speaker 2: Guys, nom my mom. No one knew for almost a

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Speaker 2: decided I'm not doing your homework. So they said, we're

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Speaker 2: So when we got on the school bus, right Coley,

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Speaker 2: I said to the bus driver, listen, can you let

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Speaker 2: I was like, what I said, put that whole school

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Speaker 2: gonna beat me up. She said, listen, this is what

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Speaker 2: you do. I said, well, she said that everybody, when

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Speaker 2: I want you to let everybody get off the bus,

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Speaker 2: and I'm thinking about that. I said, okay, so everybody

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Speaker 1: Kids even get you a headstart.

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Speaker 2: So now I go, yeah, exactly. So she said, now

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Speaker 2: I want you to walk to the back of the bus,

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Speaker 2: and I unlocked the emergency door. So I went ahead

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Speaker 2: walked to the back of the bus. Unlocked the door.

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Speaker 2: Boom boom. She said, now walk back to the front

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Speaker 2: of the bus. She said now when I counted three,

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Speaker 2: I want you to run bus out that door and

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Speaker 2: I said, okay, she said one. Now I'm stand at

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Speaker 2: she said three, took off. I took off. Run who

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Speaker 1: So we fought between the mom and the bus driver.

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Speaker 1: Mary's donner.

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Speaker 2: I was like, they're everywhere so at this time, I

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Speaker 2: if you're going to force me to go back to school,

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Speaker 2: I was like twelve eighteen? I said, why should I

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Speaker 2: To my uncle. So when I told my grandmother that part,

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Speaker 2: He says. Self confidence is about having no doubt and

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Speaker 2: your God given ability. That's what self confidence is. I said, oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: having no doubt in my talent? Okay, what self esteem?

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Speaker 1: You know what to say. The karate kid wasn't out ye, Bruce.

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Speaker 2: Lee was the man at the time that's cooking allway through.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I would be I would understand it where

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to be that. So I never forget going

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Speaker 2: And I'll never forget being attending class for the first time.

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Speaker 2: And before I walked in the door, he said, anything negative,

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Speaker 2: negative energies, I want you to keep it out this

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Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that's what like karate and all that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very spiritual. And I thought, Wow, leave it

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Speaker 2: These all black businessman and one white guy. And this

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Speaker 1: So they weren't even you were joining a class full

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Speaker 2: No, I was with men. I was with all men.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all men, all masters and on the wall

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Speaker 2: What was cool is there's this big question that says,

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Speaker 2: why are you here? Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: No, I wasn't that type. I was that type to

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00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,640
Speaker 2: have ego. I wasn't type too talk back. I wasn't

436
00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:50,520
Speaker 2: that type at all.

437
00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,280
Speaker 1: But you knew you were walking into this self confidence, selfness.

438
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,399
Speaker 2: I had no idea. I had no idea what I

439
00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,480
Speaker 2: was walking into. But I knew what I was walking into.

440
00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,640
Speaker 2: Seeing the judge that I knew who was very respectable

441
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,320
Speaker 2: in my community. The lawyers that I knew who were

442
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:10,000
Speaker 2: very respectable, the businessmen who were very respectful, upholding individuals

443
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,199
Speaker 2: in our community. I knew that I was.

444
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:13,639
Speaker 1: You knew who these people were.

445
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were very well respected. So I thought, wow,

446
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,080
Speaker 2: how special. This must be special for me. But wow wow,

447
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 2: And that's when they started teaching me how to throw

448
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,399
Speaker 2: punches correctly, because back in the day, we just grabbed

449
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,159
Speaker 2: your hair. Yeah. But then they started showing me how

450
00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,840
Speaker 2: to throw punches correctly, you know what I mean. Starts

451
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,359
Speaker 2: showing me how to move. That makes sense. Then they

452
00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,560
Speaker 2: start showing me how to use my knees and showing

453
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,439
Speaker 2: me how to use my elbows, showing me how to

454
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,359
Speaker 2: go for the groin. Because they were men, and whenever

455
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 2: they compete against each other, whenever one man was balpidating

456
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 2: the other throwing martial arts, they go for the growing.

457
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 2: That makes sense. So that's what they taught me. So

458
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm a master going for the groy because that's all

459
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 2: I went with one up against those guys at the time.

460
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 2: The way you so I was little at the time,

461
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 2: but each kick you think Bruce Lee threw over ten

462
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 2: thousand kicks I threw over to one. Wow, you understand

463
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 2: me over twenty thousand. I had no idea. And what

464
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 2: was crazy is as these masters, I'm the youngest one here,

465
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,640
Speaker 2: but as these masters, we're all throwing technique or kind

466
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 2: of techniques or whatever. I'm feeling all the energy and

467
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,439
Speaker 2: power come down to me. That makes sense. I felt it.

468
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 2: It was like permeating me. It was transformed me. I

469
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 2: realized that, Wow, so this is confidence. That makes sense.

470
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 2: I was feeling the confidence from the top master all

471
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,439
Speaker 2: the way down to the master who was adjacent to me.

472
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 2: That makes it. Now I'm just as little white belt,

473
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 2: but I don't know exactly what's going on, but I

474
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 2: know I feel something. And what I know feel I

475
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 2: know is now, Yeah, you know what I mean. I

476
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 2: knew it was transforming me. That makes sense. Yeah, I

477
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 2: knew that. When I saw those bullies again, I beat

478
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 2: the ass so fast that things know why killed me, Cheetah,

479
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

480
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 1: I'm just curious, did you ever go backing with some

481
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:53,959
Speaker 1: of these bullies?

482
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 2: But actually, what was crazy is I did go back, yes.

483
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,640
Speaker 1: And Mexic School.

484
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 2: No, No, I went back to visit. No, I didn't

485
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,120
Speaker 2: go back to the school and when I ran. Once

486
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 2: I left, it's just like in a relationship.

487
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 1: Officially, Yeah you left school.

488
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 2: No, I didn't leave school, but I left that school.

489
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 2: It's like a relation. Once I leave, it's a rat

490
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 2: you did. I ain't going back, That's the way I am.

491
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 2: But I did see them as I got older. Yeah,

492
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 2: and I'll never forget Guilded. Guilda was made with guild

493
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: and Loretta.

494
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: The bullies.

495
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 2: The bullies. Yeah, first of all, they were all wait,

496
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: all of them were fatten out of shape. Even to

497
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 2: this day, they're all like wells.

498
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 1: I hope they see this, by.

499
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 2: The way, all four of them.

500
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 1: Oh well bully Oh damn little plumpers. Huh, Oh my god.

501
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: They what I.

502
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 2: Forgot, the people over here in this here. But yeah,

503
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 2: they're all like wells. But I'll never forget seeing Guilder.

504
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: No, we could dissed the bullies.

505
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 2: Okay, get that, Yeah we can't. And Guilda and the

506
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 2: girl who kicked me in my butt, Lisa right out now.

507
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 2: I saw her about three years ago. Lisa started that,

508
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: the one who kicked me in my button. And I

509
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 2: was at quiet store and the school there, and my

510
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 2: uncle introduced to for a long time, and she was

511
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: starting some she was talking like she wanted to start something.

512
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 2: I was like, Lisa, cut that, undefeated, Lisa little This

513
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 2: is my exactly is Lisa little girl. I will beat

514
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 2: your ass so fucking fast. You'll know why they call

515
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 2: me cheetah. Now I'm not the same person you kicked

516
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: any ass that she tried. And I sat in front

517
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 2: of everybody and I said, you want something, you could

518
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: have something, knut. No, she didn't want them. You want

519
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 2: something you can have because we were already in the dojo,

520
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 2: So you want something, you could have something, you know

521
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 2: what I mean? And I supplied this is four years ago.

522
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 1: That's crazy, crazy, bully, bully what I'm saying, huh I

523
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 1: after knowing you are undefeated, that's done three times over.

524
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 2: It doesn't even make sense and exactly, and Gildas popped

525
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 2: the one time in the mouth I wanted to were

526
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 2: First of all, our hands are My hands are registered.

527
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: Like some kind of life.

528
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 2: My hands are register and when I use my weapons,

529
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 2: I have to use it if it's a matter of

530
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 2: life and death. That makes sense. Yeah, so I have

531
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 2: to really be threatened, and she wasn't no real threatening

532
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: I learned early how to walk away. That makes sense,

533
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, what you're thinking, she's a moron.

534
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm lucky. She's lucky. She's lucky in your hands on

535
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: registered she's lucky. And I'm sure you've acquired so much,

536
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: you've mastered like internal discipline right in this sport.

537
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will despite the fact that I can fight,

538
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: I'll walk away.

539
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: Are you slow to anger?

540
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: I've always been slow to anger as a very kid,

541
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: young kid. My mom's getting mad at me. I'm glad

542
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: you said that, my mom, Sissy, you're supposed to be

543
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: angry about this. No, I don't like the way anger feels,

544
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, I didn't like the

545
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 2: way the energy was the fire.

546
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: So like your siblings could annoy you to death and

547
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: you would be like whatever, Really, how much older are

548
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: you than them?

549
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 2: Two years one?

550
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: That's pretty good, sixty eight that's pretty good, two years apoon.

551
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: I feel like after this episode a lot of people

552
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: are gonna be saying sissy, huh.

553
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yess. My parents, my mom and I used

554
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: to call me sissy. My mom called me sissy, and

555
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: my dad used to call me chips, Friedo corn chips. Crazy, Huh,

556
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 2: I like that?

557
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so you go through this training and now

558
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: you're walking around with confidence. You go through this, I

559
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: guess predominantly white school. Is people peeping your energy change?

560
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 2: No, I went to What happened. I received a scholarship.

561
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 2: I went on and excelled in basketball and excelled in track.

562
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: We became state champions in track, and I received a

563
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 2: double scholarship Division one scholarship the Temple University. Okay, yes,

564
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: when I went to Temple, I was only there a year.

565
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: I flunked out. I know. I met this guy. First

566
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: time I'm ever away from my family. I met this

567
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: guy named Jamain. He was super cool. Fell in love

568
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 2: with him. He was staying with me. He drank a lot.

569
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 2: Doing all the basketball games. This is this is some

570
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: real stuff. Doing all the basketball games at wind Lose

571
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: a draw. All the superstars, the athletes would go into

572
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: this locker. It was private room and there was cocaine. Beauties. Yeah, beauties,

573
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: black beauties is speed, oh speed speed alcohol. All the

574
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 2: male basketball stars and not just basketball. All the male

575
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 2: stars pitt Wether was basketball, football, track. We all went

576
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: into the females too. We all went to this room,

577
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 2: and we used to all just celebrate and have a

578
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: good time. The only thing I remember is taking a

579
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: drink and waking up but damn naked, grabbing my dad,

580
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 2: trying to find my clothing and get running down the hallway,

581
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: like what the heck gonna happen? And it just happened

582
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: multiple times, like we entering and guys on guys, girls

583
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: on girls, everybody on everybody. That's just the way it

584
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: was the university. That's the way it was in the university.

585
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 2: The athletes, that's what I saw. That's how it started off.

586
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: Now whatever happened between I don't remember because I got

587
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: blacked out, that makes sense, And to this day, I

588
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: still don't remember what the heck happened.

589
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: That's really dangerous, Yeah, I know.

590
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then that's how I got kicked out of school, Yeah,

591
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: because I was As a newspaper said, too much too soon,

592
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 2: you did free day Gibs lose her scholarship, too much

593
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: too soon. It was. I never did hot drugs when

594
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: I was in high school. I never even touched a joint.

595
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: I didn't even drink. But when I went to Temple,

596
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: I became a cocaine addict. I became a blueberry blue

597
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 2: black beauty addict. You did, I became an attic.

598
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: Wow, So then how do you after you first of

599
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: all going back on to your parent, your mama and

600
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: telling her that, now did she take the news?

601
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: What happened was my college coach said, look here, we

602
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 2: need to have a meeting. So they called me there.

603
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 2: I was in the office. I'll never forget it as

604
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: long as I lived. And she said that your grade

605
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: point after zero point zero. She said, when we found you,

606
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: discovered you free d you were here, you are now here.

607
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: Why do you choose to go back here when you

608
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: can go here? I'll never forget her saying this. She said, well,

609
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: we gotta let you go. You're suspended. We got to

610
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: kick you out the university. But I didn't care because

611
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: I was strung out.

612
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,239
Speaker 1: That makes sense, did they and they didn't know you

613
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: were strung out?

614
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 2: No, they didn't because I could play basketball real well,

615
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: I was. She still kicking button, doing my job, just

616
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: doing my job. That makes sense. And I'll never and

617
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 2: then again maybe they did, because this is what happened.

618
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 2: I gotta let this cook through. This is what happened.

619
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: So I went to the bank I'll never forget to

620
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: get money to leave, and I'll never forget hearing this tailor.

621
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: And now I was in line, I'm hearing this tailler. Yeah,

622
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: oh my god, No, Fredia Gibbs didn't. I was like,

623
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 2: that's me. Then I heard her say to the other lady,

624
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: did you hear what Fredia Gibbs did to us? And

625
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: I thought, what did I do to them? I don't

626
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 2: even know these people. And then as I got closer,

627
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: they were talking she loves too much to school soon,

628
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: Fridia Gibbs loses her scholarship too much, too soon. Temple

629
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: didn't allow me to even get cash my check and

630
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: get home. And it was all on the newspapers and

631
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 2: everything that makes sense. Yes, I go to the bank,

632
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: I go through the train station near Philly to go

633
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: back to Chester, and newspaper all over the place. I'm like,

634
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: holy count, I'm hearing everybody talking all of a sudden,

635
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: you know, me already being strung out, and I'm hearing

636
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: all these voices. I'm thinking, hearing this woman, we're talking

637
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: about what did I do doing? There's too much too soon?

638
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: What does she do to here? And I'm thinking, what

639
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: do you mean? What did I do to you? I

640
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: didn't understand, but I knew something was going on, you

641
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's like it was war, all

642
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: these voices war. So I get off the train in

643
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: Chester the projects. First thing one of the Whinos says

644
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: to me is, Fredia, what are you doing back here?

645
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: And I was like wow, But I wasn't the same

646
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: Freda I was when I left and the projects in

647
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: Philly Chester they protected the superstars. That makes sense because

648
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: we were They were proud of us. We had a pass.

649
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: That makes sense to enter all the projects. That makes sense. Yeah,

650
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: today they killed the superstars. Did you know that?

651
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: If you go back there now.

652
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: They killed superstars, all the superstars back in my projects

653
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: that I grew up, that I grew up, they killed

654
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: them because they're jealous of them. And I'm like, wow,

655
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: they're killing them now.

656
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: Stars And you're more known at this point for basketball

657
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: and track, basketball, track and kickboxing, oh and kick Okay,

658
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: so you come.

659
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: Back So I'm back there. Yeah. So I'm back there

660
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: just letting that do his magic. Yes. And then I

661
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: go back there and I talked to my mom. I

662
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: let my mom know what's going on telegony. Yeah, I'm comfortable.

663
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: I got kicked out and she said, what happened? I said,

664
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: I got strung out? She said, what happened? I said,

665
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: I met this guy named Jamaine, and I got strung

666
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: out on cocaine, the same thing I told you I got.

667
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: I was a rookie and I was with all the superstars,

668
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: the seniors, you know what I mean. And they introduced

669
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: me to something and I tried it, and ever after

670
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: every game we went there and Jamaine he got me

671
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: hooked on a beer and liquor and things like that,

672
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: and he was staying with me. So that's what happened,

673
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: you know, Okay. And then my brother, he was a

674
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: big time drug deal at the time. My brother's name

675
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: is Brogie Lucas and and he was a big time

676
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: drug deal at the time in Philly. And I'll never

677
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: forget me wanting And that's what I'm so anyway, I go.

678
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: You said earlier that your mom had said that he

679
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: had turned you out.

680
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jermaine to turned me out. Okay. What happened was

681
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: what I learned, and this went on moving forward. What

682
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: I learned moving forward. After I left Temple and told

683
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: my mom, I went to my father's people, and I

684
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: let them know, and I stayed with my father's people

685
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: after I left my mom. Now many I was strong,

686
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 2: I said, with my at my mom's I still had

687
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: access to cocaine, you understand, but I didn't want to

688
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: deal with it from the streets because my brother was

689
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: a big time drug dealer and with the black folks.

690
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: I didn't want to do it get it from those guys.

691
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: Why Why is that?

692
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: Because I didn't trust my brother mixing it. He was

693
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: mixing crack with cocaine at you know, I didn't want

694
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: to take the chance. So I decided to stop. I

695
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: wanted to stop cocaine and everything all together. I wanted

696
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: to go back to the clean freedia that I was

697
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: before I left.

698
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: And what was driving this want or this desire?

699
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: Because because I knew that wasn't me. Okay, that makes sense.

700
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: It wasn't me.

701
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: And what was just going back to your mom's response,

702
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: what was her response to hearing this news.

703
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: She was very surprised. Okay, yeah, she was very surprised.

704
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: That's why she said, I got turned out. Ok Yeah,

705
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: she said, I told you, sissy, there are wolves out there. Yes,

706
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: she did remember that when I was younger, when I

707
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: was young, she said, I told you there are wolves

708
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: out there. Wow. Yeah, and you got caught by a

709
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: wolf because you was sheep, you understand. So I went

710
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: to my grandma's house because I knew I didn't have

711
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: access to everything. And at my grandma's house for three days,

712
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: I didn't sleep because mine I got all this stuff

713
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: in my bain. I didn't sleep, like three four and eight,

714
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: like we And all of a sudden, I'm trying to

715
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: clean myself. I'm not I'm trying to keep it hidden

716
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: from my grandparents.

717
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: And but oh they don't know, but they know you're there.

718
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So all of a sudden, it was like

719
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: late at one o'clock, two o'clock in the morning, I

720
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: started trembling that stuff and shaking and et cetera. And

721
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: my grandmother came out, said, Grandma, they knew I was

722
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 2: strong at that time. Yeah, And they called the ambulance.

723
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: When they called the ambulance took they took me to

724
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: the hospital. And I'll never forget this as long as

725
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: I lived. Clean here, I am lying on a bit.

726
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: I see my mom, I see my grant, my mother's mother,

727
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: and I see my father's mother, and I see my

728
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: family there like sticking me up with Ivy and the

729
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: other and they're looking at me like, not in disappointment,

730
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: but what happened to you? You know what I mean?

731
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: And I'll never forget looking up at them a tear drop.

732
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: That's when it was like reality hit me. So what happened.

733
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: That's why my heart is not as strong as it

734
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: is today because me at the time, being strung out

735
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: on cocaine, I didn't know. So at that time, what

736
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: happened was my family suggested I go to Philly, put

737
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: my aunt Bunnie on my father's side because she was

738
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: like a powerhouse. Oh yeah, she was like a little powerhouse.

739
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: Get me out of Philadelphia because it was nothing there

740
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: but cracking cocaine going on. That was it. That was

741
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: doing a cracking cocaine era.

742
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

743
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: So I went ahead to Philly and Bunnie. Things didn't

744
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: work out well with her because she left me in

745
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: abandoned home for two weeks. Yeah, she left me with

746
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: peanut butter, jelly and water. Now she was determined to

747
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: make sure that I got clean out. It makes sense.

748
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: She's determined to help me. Now she's a powerhouse, you know,

749
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: what I mean.

750
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: She did that to help you, to help me out.

751
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: And I'll never forget this as long as I live.

752
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: So here, I am two weeks in in her building

753
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: with these hermit monster doors, and all I got is

754
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: peanut butter, jelly and water. Now, I didn't know that

755
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: I was gonna I thought I was gonna be there

756
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: for the weekend. I had no idea, okay, that she

757
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: was gonna have me locked in there for two weeks.

758
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: In fact, it probably would have been a month. But

759
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: I broke out because I could. I realized I couldn't

760
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 2: even get out. I could get she locked me in.

761
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: That ain't funny, I'm sorry, but no, but her mission

762
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: was too exactly that was.

763
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: Her mission anyway. I will never forget this as long

764
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: as I live here. I am lying down on the

765
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 2: couch you back in day, you know when we had

766
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: those handsets and that cassette where you put the cassette in. Yeah,

767
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I was listening to Luther

768
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: Vandros at the time, lying down, you know what I mean,

769
00:33:54,480 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: pod alright, Then I dozed off and suddenly I don't

770
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: know how long I was asleep, but I woke up

771
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 2: and I saw that I was very close to the ceiling,

772
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, why am I so close to the ceiling?

773
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: And I've put my fingers thrill and it's going through

774
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: the wall. So I scanned around, like what the world?

775
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: And the soft voice said, looked down. So I looked down.

776
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 2: I saw my body there. What the hat sets my

777
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: whole frame there? I was like, and I slammed back

778
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: into my body cramp. I jumped a wallful. WHOA Ain't

779
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: nobody gonna believe this was I hallucinating? What was going on?

780
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: At that time? It was time to escape. It was

781
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: time to escape. It really was now Manie, like I said,

782
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: she had this big hermit monster door, like this mansion door.

783
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: That mom was gigan. It was big and the shatn

784
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: feet tall. He was determined and he got these walls

785
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: on the side right here. So what I had to do.

786
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: I had to even put one foot on this wall,

787
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: one foot on this wall, climb up there. And there

788
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: was this window up top. That was the only way

789
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 2: I could get out. I had to bust the window.

790
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: That room was small, No, the hallway.

791
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: The house it was a big it was a motel,

792
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: but it was up top and by this window up top,

793
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: so I had to climb up and I was weak,

794
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: So I knew that I had to make be successful

795
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: this first climb because I was physically weak. Got it,

796
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: you did? So I'm climbed up. Wa. I cramb onto

797
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 2: the window real fast, and I and I cleared all

798
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 2: the glass from there, et cetera. And I looked down.

799
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: I was like, whoa shit, Oh that was a long fall.

800
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, it's gonna be a long ass wall,

801
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: I said, but I gotta do it. And I couldn't

802
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 2: turn my body around to let my legs go first.

803
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: My body would only go head first. So I counted one, two, three,

804
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: and I was ready for the fall. And as I

805
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: went through it, I was falling. It was just as

806
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: long as fall. Then I hit the ground boom. I'll

807
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: never forget it. I don't know. I must have passed

808
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: out because three four hours had passed by, but I

809
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: was on the other side and did.

810
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: The dag You free?

811
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

812
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: What friend Lance?

813
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Once I got through, came woke up a few

814
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: hours later, I unlocked the door and.

815
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: I crawled out back on cameras.

816
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 2: I crawled out and I was free, just like I said,

817
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: I found a phone. I called my mom collect I

818
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 2: was crying. I told her what my aunt Bunny did

819
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: locked me in his place for two weeks. If I

820
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: still be locked up, keep you safe. My mom called

821
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: my brother, get me now, min My brothers one of

822
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: the biggest drug dealers in Philly. You did he come

823
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 2: picked me up in the Camaro convertible, et cetera. Were

824
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: rolling on back from Philly going to the Projects. He's

825
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: look and the cop All of a sudden, the cops stoppers.

826
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is people?

827
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: What is God? I said, you know what, you only

828
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 2: stopped us because we blacked. It's a nice car, I said,

829
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: because we was up here in mind the own business.

830
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: Wasn't nobody doing nothing?

831
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: But was there anything in the car?

832
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: Okay, let me tell you the car. So I just

833
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: after the officer he said go, He let us go.

834
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: So we're going down. My brother like that. That's a

835
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: bigger stop. He stopped at the Projects. He pops the trunk.

836
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 2: Guess what he takes out bigs Adidas bag of crack

837
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 2: and the biggest Deidas bag of cocaine.

838
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

839
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: I was like, that's exactly what I thought.

840
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: Holy gosh, Jesus was on your side.

841
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: So that that was the story. So anyway, he goes,

842
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: drops it off. I'm there wait for him come back.

843
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, I see him running out. He

844
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: jumps in the car, doesn't even open the door, and

845
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 2: he tells me put my head down, put my hand.

846
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: He says, put your head down, and puts my head down.

847
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: Way did dash for? You know what I'm saying. All

848
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: of a sudden he he gears in reverse, God runs out.

849
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: I was like, what, dude, you should have stayed in

850
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 1: the house, Like whoa.

851
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: He gears up, peeling, peels up, takes me back to

852
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: the project. I tell my mom would have nothing like

853
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: this fool's creak. We just got shot at. We just

854
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: got shot at. Now I don't went the waters one man,

855
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: crazy and money. Yeah you understanding. I'm like a skeleton

856
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: this year.

857
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: The backtrack. It's not funny. But you we appreciate your

858
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: aunt bunny though, right, appreciate it because you gotta think

859
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: these pivotal moments are will bring us to undefeated world champions.

860
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: So super grateful for the little evil bullies, but more

861
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: grateful for the aunt bunnies. That was like We're gonna

862
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: make sure you come out good. Obviously came out strong

863
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: because he took a leap of faith jumping off. Go ahead,

864
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 1: let's start this dish. Let's try it. Yeah all right,

865
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: so what are we doing?

866
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: We just garlic steak?

867
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: Garlic steak? All right, I'm gonna try the try a

868
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: couple of asparagus is and I don't really hear. Let

869
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: me try to get one of your knives. I'm gonna

870
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: take this steak is so good, I may have to

871
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: risk my entire internal.

872
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: So that's how that story ended.

873
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: But that's how. And by the way, your brother he

874
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: knew that. Okay, my brother was your brother knew that

875
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: you battled this addiction?

876
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: Did he he didn't know?

877
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: Everyone kept it from him. Did your mom know that

878
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: he was doing?

879
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, everybody doing. He was. Everybody knew who he was.

880
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: Let's try this as well done. So you're not even

881
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: using a one sauce.

882
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: Oh it's so good, it's good.

883
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout, I'll try it. So after all of this,

884
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: how do you end up getting back on track too?

885
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: That's what I'm telling So I go back to my

886
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: my father's people mine. There was a coach, very good

887
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: college coach. Good, thank you. This college coach, in fact,

888
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: coach has heard that I lost my scholarship because the

889
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: newspapers during the time that I was in New York,

890
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: they were reaching out to my grandmother. They wouldn't reach

891
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: out to my mom because they wouldn't make it into

892
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: the projects. They wouldn't make it out the projects. You

893
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: had to send somebody black into projects. Okay, you hear me,

894
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 2: Just keeping the one hundred, I'll be big. He reached

895
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: out to my grandparents.

896
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: There's a great stake, by the way, and I'm never forget.

897
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: During the time that I was at my grandmother's house,

898
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: I was getting myself together, and I'll never forget she's

899
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: this real nonsense a lot about it. Oh, by the way,

900
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: now that you're together, so they knew what they were doing.

901
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: Send her, asked back, and Bunny, she'll take care of her,

902
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: she'll clean her out. Now that you're back together, I

903
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: wanted to let you know that this basketball college coach

904
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: has stopped by here, has been calling here checking up

905
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: on you. That's how I was too. I was like, what,

906
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: because Maya, I was never gonna play basketball again.

907
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: He did, and I said, I loved that there was

908
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: so much loving faith in you, like from everybody. But

909
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: gone continue.

910
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: Sorry, I said, what's his name? She said, Mike Tanagli.

911
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: In fact, here's his number. He's been calling here checking

912
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: up on you, so I reach out to him. He

913
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: takes me to care any college. It's all white school,

914
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: probably like three blacks. It's on the main line, so

915
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: it's adjacent de Villanova, so it's an upscale school. Me

916
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 2: coming from the project, I never seen BMW's and Mercedes

917
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: and Lamborghinis and all that stuff. I never saw that

918
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: in real life on your TV. When I went to

919
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: that college. That's what I was seeing on the regular,

920
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: on the regular, every joy and wasn't nothing but money. Wow.

921
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: And he said, look, we know that you're a Division

922
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: one athlete, ain't no doubt about. We also know that

923
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: there's no way that we would ever get someone of

924
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: your talent and your calenber here at this university. But

925
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 2: we also know that you've had problems, you lost or

926
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: the Division one scholarship. Now this is the deal, free

927
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: to you. Here, I am amongst all these white men

928
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: businessmen university. You give us your talents and we'll make

929
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: sure that you get a good education.

930
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: Okay, that was fair, right, Yeah, yeah.

931
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: We want you to build and turned on women's basketball

932
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: program around and our athlete programming around. Okay, I said deal,

933
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: and that's what I did, turning around, turned the whole

934
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: program around. They went from being Division one nai A

935
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 2: to the NCAA because of me, because I was already

936
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: in the NCAA Division one, so they already had my

937
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 2: names in NCAAA. They already had my name in the system,

938
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: scores and things like that. Then when I went to

939
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: the Division three school, they have me my freedom Gives

940
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: name still there, but I'm in n AA ai A,

941
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: but I'm originally from NCAA. So what they did with

942
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: the university that I went to, they went ahead and

943
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: switched them to NCAA because of me, because my name

944
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: kept popping up at NCAA. All the people at the top,

945
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: they already knew who I was. That mentioned.

946
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, So turned the whole program around, went and joined

947
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 3: went to the Olympics to try off because the European

948
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 3: What happened is the European basketball coach they come over here.

949
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: To recruit Americans to go play basketball. And we went

950
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: to Colorada Springs to train for the European Basketball. Now

951
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: this is some crazy shit. I didn't know this even exists.

952
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: Check this here out. So we would Colorado Springs for

953
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 2: the Liperd trains and training for the basketball to join

954
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: the European Women's Basketball League, and we had to wear

955
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: panty holes. I told the coach. I was like, nah, Bri,

956
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 2: I ain't wearing no pantyhose. I said, One, I ain't

957
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: wearing no pantyhose because they itch. But two, I'm not

958
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: wearing no pantyhose because I never wore panty hose when

959
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: I was playing basketball.

960
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: But also it is in that harder to play basketball

961
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: and pantyholes.

962
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: I was not going to do it. So this is

963
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 2: what happened. So all the girls had on their panty

964
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: hose playing basketball, and I had on my shorts. Starting

965
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: from here, I was at the end of the girls

966
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 2: checking prove Proofal you're on this team. You on this team.

967
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: Then the coach says to me, all the European coach,

968
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do for you? I said? I said, sir,

969
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 2: I didn't come here to make you dick hard. I

970
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: came here to play basketball.

971
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: They want shorts over the pantyhose.

972
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: No it was just pantyholes.

973
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, this is what I.

974
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: Said, sir. I didn't come here to make your your

975
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: dick card. I came here to play basketball.

976
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: Okay.

977
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: I nodded their heads right and on their feet. I

978
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 2: was going for a layup and one girl on this side,

979
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: one girl on this side hit me both side, bam bam.

980
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: I caught the girl on the left. But to this day,

981
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: that girl on the right, if ever I see her,

982
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get her.

983
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: No, you got registered hands.

984
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: Oh no, she got me this one. She oh she

985
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: is old. This one she got me on the right.

986
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 2: And anyway, yeah, it got me real good.

987
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: They jumped whaying yeah while I was playing.

988
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 2: And then they went ahead and put me on the

989
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: European team. They put me on the European team on

990
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: this the losing this team. That record was zero and thirty,

991
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 2: the worst team ever in Germany. They were zero wins

992
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: and thirty losses. But when I left, guess what they

993
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: were champions.

994
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: Wow, they were chams.

995
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: I took it to a whole nother level. I opened

996
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: them up.

997
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: Now.

998
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: It was coming from where you came from, going to

999
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: being able to travel our season. Can we just walk

1000
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: through that little that experience. Just for a brief second,

1001
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: I know we're going to go.

1002
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: It was tough. It was tough because during the time

1003
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: I came from a nice penhouse. But I mean I

1004
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: had a bad car and I had an excellent career.

1005
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: You feel being a superstar at Cabrini. Oh, they came

1006
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: and got me and recruited me for I had. It

1007
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 2: was excellent. Had I gone over there first and checked

1008
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: it out, I would not have stayed. But because I

1009
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: gave everything away, my home and I was on the

1010
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: twelfth floor, bad car and excellent career, and then I

1011
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: went over there without visiting, I stayed. It was I

1012
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 2: got paid two thousand a week. Wow, that was good money.

1013
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: But the homes were European. It was something that I

1014
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 2: wasn't accustomed to. They were different. If ipartments were very different,

1015
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: and I didn't like them. They were just old agent.

1016
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: During the time I was there, training was great. I

1017
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: was there when the Berlin Wall came down. Now, mind you,

1018
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: I don't know much about the Berlin Wall, but what

1019
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: I do know is that all the athletes are running

1020
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: to the Berlin Wall. And I even see old women

1021
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: people with canes, man female walking with Kynes and I

1022
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 2: can feel this energy and the energy is insurmountable. It's

1023
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: absolutely powerful. And I'm just saying to myself, I don't

1024
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: understand what they're saying, but what I do understand is

1025
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: that this energy is legacy. This must be history. It

1026
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: has to be because I'm looking at everything with my

1027
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: eyes and they were like, yeah, get a piece of

1028
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: the wall, Get a piece of the wall. In my mind,

1029
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, I ain't carrying no rocks around with me.

1030
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: Now I had wish I had, Yeah, because I didn't

1031
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: know then what I know now. You did. So that

1032
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: was a real cool experience. I spent a lot of

1033
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: time in Amsterdam because I had to keep the balance.

1034
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: You did travel aize, So I was there for two

1035
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 2: years now Maya. I had to figure out what I

1036
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: was gonna do because I didn't want to stay there

1037
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: another year. Yeah, figure out whatever, So what am I

1038
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: gonna do from here? I saw Sin say, Benny the

1039
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: jet your ti dez from Van Nis on television. He

1040
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: was fighting that said that's what I want to do.

1041
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: So I wrote his address down and everything Darren counting

1042
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: Van night. And when I left jer I didn't resign

1043
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: my contract in basketball contractors. I went ahead and wrote

1044
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: his information down. I caught the plane and when straight

1045
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: came straight to California, knocked on Sin and say Bennie

1046
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 2: the jet door and started working with him. And like

1047
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: I told him, I said, look, I want to learn karate.

1048
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 2: He knew I was something, you know. I said, I

1049
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: want to learn kickboxing. I said, I don't know karate.

1050
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know kickboxing, but I know karate.

1051
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: I said, and I'm real coachable, So you teach me.

1052
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: I'll get it. So he went ahead and took me

1053
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 2: on his wing, introduced me to his brother. When his sister, Lily,

1054
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 2: your teez got with those guys, and I started competing

1055
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: left and right. That's when I started eating oodles and noodles.

1056
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: Oh that's when you started eating oodles, and when I

1057
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: came okay, yeah, okay, so you and how different was

1058
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: the training between kickboxing and karate.

1059
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 2: It was very different because with kickboxing, you're kicking, you're

1060
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: using your shins, you know what I mean. Your ship

1061
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: is like a baseball bat, as opposed to with karate.

1062
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 2: Sometimes you're kicking with the insect of your foot here,

1063
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 2: so you're like slapping. But with kickboxing, you're using this part.

1064
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 2: Let's say this is your leg. You're using this here,

1065
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: this is your shin. And when your shin hits a rib,

1066
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: you know, it can break a rib. When your shin

1067
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: hits a head, it can break ahead. When your shin

1068
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: hits an arm, it can break these four arms. When

1069
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: your shin hits a thigh, it can break it. Because

1070
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: our shin is real thick. It's like a baseball bat.

1071
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: So our legs are like baseball bats, our arms are

1072
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 2: like boots.

1073
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: That makes sense, especially the way you can do the

1074
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: same thing, dude, R.

1075
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: That my mom used to say, Hen, we're off, and cup,

1076
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: we're off for good.

1077
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: Now your mom's fully into what you do now, one

1078
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: hundred percent right.

1079
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: My mom's big tongue, big tongue.

1080
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: I love your Yeah, my mom's best.

1081
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. So anyway, I got to fight for a

1082
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: world championship fight. So what happened? I need to Like

1083
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: I said, I was eatings and I need to make money.

1084
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: And I started working for AT and T and I

1085
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: got bit into a Domino's game by this girl named Benita.

1086
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: And when I went to Domino's down at Inglewood, Lonnie,

1087
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: I don't know Lonnie Franklin Junior, the grim Sleeper. He

1088
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: had killed over one hundred black women down in Inglewood.

1089
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, here raped and killed him Jesus. But what happened?

1090
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: Unfortunately I had met him at a Dominoes game because

1091
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: I didn't know how to play dominance. We were playing domins.

1092
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: He offered me a right's like two three o'clock in

1093
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: the morning, and that's when I realized what the heck

1094
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 2: it was real crowd. I realized I'm around people I

1095
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: don't even know. It's two three o'clock in the morning.

1096
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: And then Lonnie gave me a drink and I took

1097
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: a little bit of it. Then all of a sudden,

1098
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: I started films tired, so I walked So I walked

1099
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: into the bathroom to throw water on my face clearhself.

1100
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, look, two three o'clock, it's time for me

1101
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 2: to go. Already lost all my pay check every day,

1102
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: that was all my Money's not for me to go.

1103
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: Threw water on my first And when I walked out

1104
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: the door, Lonnie was there, and I was like, yo, man, chill,

1105
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: I don't roll like that, because I thought he was

1106
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: Benita's due. Because Benita is the one who invited me

1107
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: to the game, to the Dominoes game. Anyway, So I'm like, Benita, look,

1108
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go. Yeah, she said, why don't you start?

1109
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: I said, no, I don't know nobody. I don't want

1110
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: to stay here. I want to go home and see

1111
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: my own bed, she said. And then Lonnie said, well,

1112
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: I take you home. And me knowing me and me

1113
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: growing up around fourteen guys, because my mother has eight brothers,

1114
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: and then my dad's brothers, and me growing around, growing

1115
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: up around, and then me growing up martial arts, I

1116
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: felt I thought that was cool. I felt I could

1117
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: handle myself. It wasn't thinking that. So anyway, I go

1118
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: to he opens the door, Lonnie does, and he opens

1119
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: the door at the van door and I get on in. Now,

1120
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 2: when I get in, he shut the door. I heard something,

1121
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: you understand. I heard something with the lock. When I

1122
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: heard something with the lock, my thoughts for father, Please

1123
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: don't let me have to fuck this man up. You understand,

1124
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: because I heard something with the lock. You dig So

1125
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: I get on in. We driving, I say, turn right.

1126
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: He turned left. I'm mind you. I'm a little dizzy,

1127
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 2: light headed, so I'm trying to get some air because

1128
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: he obviously puts something in my drink. So my head's

1129
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: leaning on the window and saying, I said, turn right.

1130
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: He turned left. I said, yo, bro, you're going wrong.

1131
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: What Then next thing I know, we wind up in

1132
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: this secluded area with nothing but fall And first thing

1133
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 2: he says is let me stick it in and I'll

1134
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: take you home. I said, yo, Bron, I said no,

1135
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 2: you let me out this van. You will never see

1136
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: me again, and Benita would never see me again. So

1137
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 2: when he said that, I'm reaching for the knob to

1138
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,959
Speaker 2: try to open the door, and I'm fumbling around. There's

1139
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: no knob, so I'm reaching for the other knob to

1140
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: roll the window down. There's no wind. I can't roll

1141
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: the window down, so I had to look. So then

1142
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: when I'm looking, then when I turned back, I saw

1143
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 2: him his face totally transformed. He had a belt on

1144
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 2: his fist. Oh no, And he said, let me stick

1145
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: it in and I'll take you home. I said, no, man,

1146
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: let me out this van. Then that's when he went

1147
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: to punch boom. And when he went to punch me

1148
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: in my face and my temple, that's when I blocked it.

1149
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 2: Boom I hang bam, and I ran to the back

1150
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: of the van. I ran as hard as I could

1151
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: to the back of the bed, and soon as I

1152
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 2: got to the back of the bed, as a big

1153
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: ass chain on it in the lock, I couldn't get out.

1154
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 1: I said, wait, fuck inside the.

1155
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: Inside the van and yeah, I ran to the back

1156
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: of the van to get escaped, and I ran right

1157
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 2: into his strap. There's a big ass chain on it. Like,

1158
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: I couldn't get out. So I turned my back toward

1159
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 2: him that he was coming to the back of the van,

1160
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: and I figured my only way out is to get

1161
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: out his door, because that's the way he got in.

1162
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: So I went diving packed. I want to push him back.

1163
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: I went for by him boom, and I went to

1164
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: try to open the door and on his door, and

1165
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: that's when he grabbed my legs and pulled me to

1166
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: the back of the van and then bull flipped me

1167
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: over and he got on top of me. I'll never

1168
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 2: forget as long as I lift.

1169
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 1: You're the grownd snatching right.

1170
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said that the hotel. He said, let me

1171
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: stick it in and I'll take you home. He on

1172
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: top of me. I said, no, man, nah, let me out.

1173
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 2: This damn band. You'll never see me again, and Benita

1174
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 2: damn show, will never see me here, he said. I said.

1175
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 2: He was getting angry and I could see he said.

1176
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: I said, let me stick it in and I'll take

1177
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: you home. And he was real calm about that shit,

1178
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 2: and I said no. And then he said it again,

1179
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: this time with much force on my wrist, and the

1180
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: voice said just let him exactly. I said okay. I

1181
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: said okay. As soon as he released my wrists, I

1182
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: was up against the wall. I was back up on

1183
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 2: my feet and up against the van. That's when I

1184
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: started throwing jabs at him, pop crossing, pop, throwing leg

1185
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: kicks at him, bop chopping that one leg, jop bop.

1186
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: I was just chopping pop chop pumped. Then all of

1187
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,479
Speaker 2: a sudden, he was like, oh shit, you weren't them

1188
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 2: fighting bitches? Yeah sucking. I was chopping that leg down

1189
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 2: boom boom. All of a sudden, I saw fear in

1190
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: his eyes because I knew that leg was going down.

1191
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: It was going down out because my legs are like axes.

1192
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got.

1193
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: Bamit busting boom. Moved to the side and say, yeah, pops,

1194
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: left leg boom. Moving back to the rights out jab

1195
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: boom boom. I was just chopping. Then all of a sudden,

1196
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 2: he came running at me like a football player, and

1197
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 2: he tackled to tackle me, and I hit up against

1198
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: the van and when he went to tackle me, I

1199
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: grabbed it into his shirt tail. I pulled it over

1200
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: to tied it swung him down. I ran down. I

1201
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: grabbed his pants, I pulled it over shoes. I stepped

1202
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: on the chest and that's when I grabbed his dick. Yeah, buddy,

1203
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 2: because I'm a dick grabber. And I said, where the keys?

1204
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 2: That motherfucker he was like, I get out? Oh some down?

1205
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 2: You want me to get out? When I wanted to

1206
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 2: get out, I had to let you stick it in first, Okay,

1207
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: I said, where the keys at? I had, you know,

1208
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: live my parking in PA. Which one I reached and

1209
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: I pull out? He got a gang of keys on there,

1210
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: gang up. I said, which one is it? He says

1211
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: the orange. I grabbed theim food food and I pulled

1212
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: him all the way over. Two threes. Get up, get

1213
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: up and shout out you wanted. When I wanted to

1214
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: get out, I had to let stick it and shut

1215
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 2: out I unlocked the door, pulled the chain off. I

1216
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 2: kicked it over.

1217
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: You're grabbing him by the dick. The whole time, I got.

1218
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 2: That motherfucker holding on, clamping on. I didn't know balls

1219
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 2: and dick. It even moved like that girl. I didn't

1220
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: know that. Get stretched that damn high. I had no clue.

1221
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 2: But I'm turning. I still stayed on his chest. I

1222
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: had no clues. I was holding on to him, and

1223
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 2: I moved over. He said, I said, now, if ever

1224
00:54:58,600 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: you see me on the streets, what are you going

1225
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 2: to say? He said Hi. I was like, He's like,

1226
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: I said, no, you're not, motherfucker. If ever you see

1227
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: me on the street, you're gonna go the opposite direction.

1228
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 2: Do you underfucking stand me? He said, you know, get out?

1229
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: And one more stuff. I made sure I was outdy,

1230
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: I had my ass still had on. He had the

1231
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: danger like his balls, everything on. One more that's had inside.

1232
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 2: I had to say, Claire, I said, one more thing.

1233
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 2: When the bed says no, she means no. And I

1234
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 2: rocked him fire and I started walking out, and I

1235
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 2: tossed the keys and I walked into a whole lot

1236
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 2: of fog. So I kept falling, trying to find.

1237
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: You're still you still got the stuff in you there and.

1238
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: I'm trying to fall and trying to find my way

1239
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: and all this fall, and all of a sudden, Colin,

1240
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: I see these two tiny dots, two tiny dots, two lights,

1241
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: and I'm walking toward them close and the closer I get,

1242
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 2: the light get bigger and bigger. Then all of a sudden,

1243
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: I go on the other side of the fog and

1244
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 2: the car and guess what it was a yellow cab

1245
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: with an old white man in it. He was just

1246
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,479
Speaker 2: sitting there with the lights on him. Oh wow, looking

1247
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: thank you so again. And I said, and my shirt

1248
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: on halfway off Teddy hanging out loft, dare shoes ranking

1249
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: air ring all that shit, oh shit hanging out. And

1250
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 2: I said, this guy tried to rape me. Gotta get

1251
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 2: me out of here. He says, okay, so he takes off.

1252
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 2: He takes me to my place, and I'm just thinking

1253
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: I gotta pay him. So I go up. I said,

1254
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: hang tight, I'm gonna I'm gonna pay you. Soon as

1255
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: I go to the door and I turned back, the

1256
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: cabin is gone. The cabin is gone. I'm like, go

1257
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 2: and side pick the phone up. I called my mom,

1258
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: this dude tried to rape me. I went out of

1259
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: California right now. She said, what I said, the dude

1260
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 2: tried to rape me. I went out of California right now.

1261
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 2: She said, did Sissy, did he rape you? I said no,

1262
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 2: I fucked him up. She said, good. Then it was

1263
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 2: a fight, and you want to fight, We'll get you home.

1264
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: We'll get you home. And I was on the next

1265
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 2: flight back to Philly. Bad shit went. So anyway, I'm

1266
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: back home Philly and stuff like that. Shall it stop

1267
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: or continue?

1268
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: You can continue. We're over time, guys, you understand.

1269
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I go back to Philly. I'm like tripping

1270
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 2: out on an airplane. I'm tripping now. First of all,

1271
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 2: on the airplane. I'm tripping out because I'm still fighting,

1272
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean fighting. I don't trust nobody now.

1273
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: And my my everything is just hyper my hearing. I

1274
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: hear everybody, and I hear everything everybody's saying. But everything

1275
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: is just I heard everything. So anyway, get back to Philly.

1276
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 2: My family's there, hug My tell was going down. I'm

1277
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: never gonna come. I'm never coming back to California again.

1278
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: That was it. I didn't care. Leave all the material

1279
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 2: leading card, all this stuff, I didn't care. I didn't care.

1280
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: That's how traumatic that experience was.

1281
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm never coming back to California again. So anyway,

1282
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: I'm back home. My fight team doesn't know that I'm

1283
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 2: back home because we never really talked about our personal lives.

1284
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 2: We only talked about fighting. So anyway, I'm back home

1285
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: my mom. Since he stopped because I'm talking and turning out.

1286
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 2: If we didn't realize I had PTSD, you know what

1287
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: I mean, That's how I acquired TSD from that experience.

1288
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: Cause I'm telling you, I was traumatized, but I was experience.

1289
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: But I was ready for him.

1290
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: So anyway, you know you was beyond ready. Let me

1291
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 1: tell you something. They could do a whole movie around

1292
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: that scene.

1293
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: You know. That's funny. As moving forward to what happened

1294
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: was I get this call from California Bennie de jet

1295
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: thin Kidas, Hey, we got this opportunity for you to

1296
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 2: fight for a world title. I was like what, I

1297
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 2: was like, y'all coming to New York. I ain't going

1298
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 2: to calling you. So my other coach, Davies, Look, you

1299
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: got everything to gain, nothing to lose, now mind. They

1300
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: don't know what I just went to. I said, man, look,

1301
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: I'm not coming back. Man, I ain't coming back there.

1302
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: They said, but you got opportunity to fight the most

1303
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: dangerous woman in the world. So what happened? She was

1304
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 2: on David Lennoman, right, and that's and they was like, Fredia,

1305
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: free your turn TV. I'm back here in Philly. I'm like,

1306
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: it's turn TV. So I see her, they like, and

1307
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: the guy says to her, no, it's Johnny Carson, and

1308
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: he says, if you're the most dangerous woman in the world,

1309
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: He said, how can you be the most dangerous woman

1310
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: in the world when you've never fought anyone in America?

1311
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: And she said, I am here to fight flee g

1312
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: I Gibbs in her French accent, and that kind of

1313
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 2: inspired me. But it Morse inspired my mom, you understand.

1314
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: Morse inspired my grandma because my mom was like, what's

1315
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: a record? I said, twenty eight and two. My mom said, shit,

1316
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: she ain't that damn dang s Gotta asked, well twice

1317
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 2: you got damn tell her. I said that Jordan wanted her.

1318
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: Mama warned her about you understand, and I was like,

1319
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 2: I ain't gone. And then my grandmom says, listen, you

1320
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: are star Fredia, and your job is to go out

1321
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: there and let the world know you're a star. Go Na,

1322
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: I ain't gone. I'm talking. I'm not gone. So then

1323
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: and then finally I just want to decided, you know what, Okay,

1324
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 2: my mom's lord, let's look at the map. I wanted

1325
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: to look at the map. Where is Inglewood on the map?

1326
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: Down there? Okay, I'm up here in Van and that's okay, okay, okay,

1327
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: big difference. Okay, I handled that part, but I had

1328
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: to see it. That makes it. I wanted to make sure,

1329
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: I say, because I didn't want to run into him

1330
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 2: on the streets. And I want to tell you this here.

1331
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 2: Throughout from nineteen ninety three up until the day that

1332
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: they call him, I've always looked over my shoulders in

1333
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: fear that I would run into him.

1334
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: You know what, is into ash And you still have.

1335
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 2: That, yeah, because yeah, because I've never had First of all,

1336
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: I've never been caught and damn sardine can with someone

1337
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: who was really trying to really rape me. You understand,

1338
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: I've never experienced that before ever, And it was a

1339
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: different kind of vibe. It was a different kind of energy,

1340
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 2: and it was a different kind of beast that I

1341
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: was dealing with, which forced me to bring out a

1342
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 2: beast in me that I didn't know I had it.

1343
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes just make sense.

1344
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyway, so I went ahead and took the

1345
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: fight Championship. Fight, came back, started training with Saxon jan Jier.

1346
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 2: We did our magic there u c LA Drake Stadium.

1347
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: We prepared for kickboxing, multi kickboxing. We drive to San Jose.

1348
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: She's standing there looking off flying. You could tell she

1349
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 2: was a superstar. You could really tell. She's stand and

1350
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: they're looking press conference. She looking fly dress on first,

1351
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: I'm thinking dress. My thought was this girl looking off flying? Shit?

1352
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: Did she come here to model? I came here to fight?

1353
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 2: You did? Okay? Fine, So she comes up to me

1354
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 2: and she says to me and oh she got this

1355
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: whole entourroze all the French people. I looked on the

1356
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 2: mop and I couldn't fight Chester and everybody started laughing.

1357
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 2: I said, bitch, tonight, not only will you find Chester

1358
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 2: on the map, I want you to know that I'm

1359
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 2: the one your mama warned your ball. Okay, oh okay,

1360
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: and I just stood there looked at her. Undefeated guys

1361
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 2: at the time, I was, yeah, I was undefeated. I

1362
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 2: was like eleven and oh with ten knockouts at the time.

1363
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 2: So anyway, we started fighting there and then before we

1364
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 2: go to fight, what happened is the promoter comes and

1365
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: he says, we're gonna switch the fight from muy tier kickboxing.

1366
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: And they was like, listen, her leg's gonna get tired

1367
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: quickly because I was trained for more time. And then

1368
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: that's when my coach said to me, look, all the

1369
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: cars are stacked against you. They think that you're going

1370
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 2: to be a punching bag. You understand, I said, man,

1371
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 2: she and I'd have had over three hundred fights. If

1372
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 2: they don't know, I had over three hundred fights in Philly, Yeah,

1373
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 2: they don't know. They call me Lady Jack Johnson and

1374
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: the Projects. Yet I'm from the projects. Man, I ain't

1375
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 2: worrying about that.

1376
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: This is my mind setting.

1377
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 2: So as I'm walking through to the ring, I hear

1378
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: these people yelling that's the black girl who came here

1379
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 2: to get knocked out. And at that time, that's when

1380
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 2: I said a silent prayer to God, tonight, Father, we

1381
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 2: are going to shock the world. You understand, we got

1382
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: in the ring. She was off here. Yeah, I got her.

1383
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: I got her. She come over. Bam, baby, she got me.

1384
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: I didn't know girls, and look that damn fine could

1385
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: fight well, she could put it all you shit. She

1386
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: was putting it on me. And for real, she's putting

1387
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 2: on me. And I was really surprised because when I

1388
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 2: saw her, she was flying, feminine and sexy. I was

1389
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 2: not real athletic like me, understand, and I was like, wow,

1390
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 2: so she's putting it on me. So I had to

1391
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: grab her. Then I said, okay, hold on, I'm in

1392
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: for a real tough one. So we started going in

1393
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 2: and boom. First round, yes, she won. Second round, we

1394
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 2: was gonna oh boom, bam you fine? Yes? So yeah, yeah,

1395
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 2: keep you bad you chest yet, So we're going there.

1396
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, the third round, I started

1397
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 2: my legs were getting tired. Yeah, so I had to

1398
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: reach deep down inside because I was seeing myself fall.

1399
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 2: You know the old saying you see it, believe it achieved.

1400
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: I was seeing myself fall. I was like no. I

1401
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 2: kept saying no, and I can't fight no. Then I

1402
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: said father, I had to reach deep and the and

1403
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 2: I said, Father, helped me. My legs are getting tired.

1404
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 2: Help me, Father, This is what I was saying. And

1405
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 2: all of a sudden I kicked Bam and she went

1406
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 2: to throw a punch and I came back and through

1407
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 2: one of those project hooks from the project I called

1408
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 2: my project Bram and she it connected with her and

1409
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 2: the temple and it spent her around that I hit

1410
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 2: her again, Bram.

1411
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: And she went on down.

1412
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 2: At that time, it was amazing. I stood over her.

1413
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 2: The referee count. I sitot over her with my hands

1414
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: up and listen to this. Here there is a picture

1415
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: of me standing over the most dangerous woman in the

1416
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 2: world in front of over twenty thousand people in the arena.

1417
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: And the clock right there says age sixteen. A sixteen

1418
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 2: is my mama's birthday. Damn. Wow, that's down in history.

1419
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 2: Ain't that crazy?

1420
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: And that's nice?

1421
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 2: I love So that's the story. Wow.

1422
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something. They you need a movie.

1423
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: You need a movie.

1424
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: Thank you maya video my short film video that was

1425
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 2: created by Sideline. I want to give them props. And

1426
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,439
Speaker 2: then we I went ahead and got collaborated with gold Casts.

1427
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 2: They're very huge in Canada, and then I had an

1428
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 2: opportunity to collaborate with TF you Sports and all of

1429
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: us collectively, we got over seventeen million views which would

1430
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 2: viral and hopefully something's real good in the basket there.

1431
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 2: But it's very important that we learned to move in

1432
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 2: silence and win in silence. And once we've won in silence,

1433
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 2: then we can share it with the world. That makes sense, Yeah, yeah,

1434
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 2: because you know there are enemies, there are people out there.

1435
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: There's wolves out there, wol if it's one thing we

1436
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: learned from this interview, there are wolves out there.

1437
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell you Little ride Hood is a

1438
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 2: true story. Yeah, what you want to do is flip

1439
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 2: the script on the wolf. That's my mom used to

1440
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 2: tell me, Sissy, little Red riding Hood. That's a true story, baby.

1441
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 2: But you want to learn to flip the script on

1442
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 2: the wolf. Do you understand me? That's very real.

1443
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: That's very real. It's a great way to close out.

1444
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1445
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: With that being said, can people do to keep up

1446
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: with that Chitta?

1447
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? You could just follow me on Instagram, Facebook, all

1448
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: of them Twitter. It's just Freedia and the Cheetah Gibbs

1449
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: at y'all Freda the Cheatah gibs your dig. That's what

1450
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 2: it is.

1451
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: Oh, it's your dig at the end, Fredia the Cheatah

1452
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: Cheetah gibbs your dig on all social media platforms. Thank

1453
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,919
Speaker 1: you so much for cooking for me, and the meal

1454
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: was for the Champion side of life. She ate noodles

1455
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: and noodles and this story was truly incredible. Thank you

1456
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: so much for your time, Thank you for having me.

1457
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, thoroughly, thoroughly inspired by your entire story.

1458
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 2: Wow, I appreciate you know, I thoroughly appreciate you guys

1459
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: inviting me. It's fun.

1460
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was fun, right, and you make bamba spirious.

1461
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: You don't even try it?

1462
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: All right?

1463
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: Peace out y'all. For more eating while broke from iHeart

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