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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast are all out of quarantine
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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Jansas. I'm coming to
Speaker 1: you from a city filled with heroes. In Bunker's Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley, and Greg Rosdalt. What is up, boys? Hey
Speaker 1: d Hey, how's everybody doing? It's hump day? Up day
Speaker 1: in a quarantine? Nothing worse than the entire world has
Speaker 1: ever happened. It's beautiful here in southern California. It is
Speaker 1: starting to really get to me. Um though, this this
Speaker 1: snow sports thing, and uh not a big college sports guy.
Speaker 1: So March madness, I you know, that was an excitement
Speaker 1: that was lost. Um, other people, that was a much
Speaker 1: bigger hit. I get that. Um, NBA that stinks, but
Speaker 1: the Nicks being terrible it was taking me out of
Speaker 1: the league a little bit until playoff time. But not
Speaker 1: having my Yankees, and I think there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people out here like the Masters and people that are
Speaker 1: big baseball fans and hockey would be getting hot right now.
Speaker 1: For me, it's starting to like I'm feeling that itch,
Speaker 1: like where are my sports? I'm I'm talking to you
Speaker 1: guys right now, because I fell in love with sports
Speaker 1: when I was young. So this idea that they've just
Speaker 1: gone now and it's becoming just a part of the world.
Speaker 1: I'm not used to it. In fact, that starting the
Speaker 1: itch is getting harder to scratch West. It's right in
Speaker 1: the center of the back. Yeah, I had Football was
Speaker 1: my first Baseball was my first love, and and I
Speaker 1: was obsessed with it to my life. I got back
Speaker 1: into it a few years ago with the Reds, and
Speaker 1: they've been keeping me sane. Baseball's every day, and you
Speaker 1: get used to that, you know, for a hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty two straight days. You get one day off a
Speaker 1: week maybe, but it's there every day, and it's for
Speaker 1: the first times in our lives except for the ninety
Speaker 1: for strike, it's not there. And I had sort of
Speaker 1: I was excited for the Reds for the first time
Speaker 1: in a while that they might actually reward my faith
Speaker 1: and loyalty and and have a good season. But I
Speaker 1: have a mental block on baseball. I just won't even
Speaker 1: allow my mind to go there because I was so
Speaker 1: excited for this season and now I just don't think
Speaker 1: it's happening this summer at all. I hear you, guys,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I I you know, openly don't
Speaker 1: um track baseball or or really any sport outside of
Speaker 1: football the same way as you guys do. But I
Speaker 1: don't say that cynically. I think that, um, I've got
Speaker 1: in my own friend group five or six guys who
Speaker 1: uh lean on sports to distress and too necked with
Speaker 1: something and to simply sit back and enjoy, and it's
Speaker 1: it's been replaced with nothing. I mean, I'm at the
Speaker 1: point where I don't care what Netflix show, UM you
Speaker 1: are obsessed with. I'm done with Netflix. I'm kind of
Speaker 1: done with movies. I'm looking at the books on bookshelves
Speaker 1: and being like done with books. There's too much time
Speaker 1: to inhale content. And at least sports um are highly unpredictable,
Speaker 1: uh in a two or three hour time capsule, And
Speaker 1: I think that's really missed with with baseball and I
Speaker 1: think Damn would probably back me up on this. It's
Speaker 1: not even just watching the games every day. It's sort
Speaker 1: of the stories and the soap operas that you get into,
Speaker 1: Like so and so is having a bad year, we
Speaker 1: need to see him benched, or this guy's really hot
Speaker 1: at Triple A. Let's bring him up to the majors.
Speaker 1: He's a solution to all of our problems. And it's
Speaker 1: that day to day sort of soap opera that you
Speaker 1: get into, and it keeps your mind busy. And I
Speaker 1: missed that. I missed getting caught up in the particulars
Speaker 1: of a season. I being in that inner group that
Speaker 1: follows the season closely, and I'm reading all the fan
Speaker 1: blogs and the beat writers and just like completely, it's
Speaker 1: it's a release for me baseball season as a daily exercise,
Speaker 1: just like the NBA season or hockey or uh. These
Speaker 1: other sports that are gone are for other people. So
Speaker 1: that's the new normal we are in right now where
Speaker 1: it doesn't exist. From Greg are Hot, Governor Gavin Newsom. Uh.
Speaker 1: This came today, I believe, or maybe yesterday. He called
Speaker 1: sports and other large events unlikely this summer in California.
Speaker 1: Here's the quote, the prospect of mass gatherings is negligible
Speaker 1: at best until we get to herd immunity and get
Speaker 1: to a vaccine. So that's a little bit foreboding and
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to it just in a minute or
Speaker 1: so in the news, um about the idea of all
Speaker 1: what does this mean for the NFL, Because the way
Speaker 1: this all broke schedule wise or timing wise for the NFL,
Speaker 1: it left football and the clear for the time being.
Speaker 1: But you know how this is gonna be. It's gonna
Speaker 1: sneak up on everybody. Unless this thing makes a hard
Speaker 1: left and where in the clear, the NFL is going
Speaker 1: to face issues just the way these other sports have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think as this has gone on, the reality of
Speaker 1: how long it's gonna take is is setting in. And
Speaker 1: you guys mentioned like the baseball seas in sports in general,
Speaker 1: I feel like our job on some level is just
Speaker 1: like to help distract people from, you know, the reality
Speaker 1: that they're gonna die someday, Like that's that's what sports is.
Speaker 1: And now you've got none of that, and right, I mean,
Speaker 1: instead of like being distracted from that, I think people
Speaker 1: are facing that right in the mirror. Um, And and
Speaker 1: we thought we had the perfect timing with football and everything,
Speaker 1: but we'll get to it in the news, just like
Speaker 1: the Bay Area, you know. Um, I think it's like
Speaker 1: the sports commissioners, like health commissioner there, he's you know,
Speaker 1: saying like we're making the decisions when people are back
Speaker 1: in stadiums. It's not gonna be the president or the
Speaker 1: commissioners of sports leagues. And maybe there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: push and pull with that, but you realize, like it's
Speaker 1: not as easy as just like, Okay, they'll be back
Speaker 1: to go in September. What was that take that sports
Speaker 1: distract us from the fact that we're going to die. Well,
Speaker 1: I think most, I think most everyone you know, a
Speaker 1: little a little more on that. You don't just gloss
Speaker 1: over stay okay, Um, well, I think most every sort
Speaker 1: of like you know, light um entertainment is yeah, on
Speaker 1: some level, kind of like a distraction from them. You know,
Speaker 1: we're all on this earth and eventually we won't be anymore.
Speaker 1: Podcast is it finally happening, Let's do it. You gotta
Speaker 1: you know, spend you know, you gotta use your time
Speaker 1: up kind of like getting distracted from that. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: I think a cornerstone of depression is dealing with the
Speaker 1: fact that we're all gonna die. At cornerstone of mental
Speaker 1: illness is that despair and anything that can take your
Speaker 1: mind off of it is valuable. I think it could be. Okay,
Speaker 1: thing like being aware of that. That means you're gonna
Speaker 1: make sure to enjoy the time that you have. And
Speaker 1: and for me, that's like watching and covering sports, diving
Speaker 1: deep and that I'm not just I'm not disagreeing with
Speaker 1: you per se, but if that's the reason I watched sports,
Speaker 1: it is buried way, way way in the back of myself.
Speaker 1: That's that. That means it's working. One thing, yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: one thing with having young children too. When you have
Speaker 1: a five year old or a four year older than
Speaker 1: that range, when they start asking, they start to understand
Speaker 1: the notion of death. They start asking some questions that
Speaker 1: are difficult to answer. So floating around hands this manner
Speaker 1: for about a month or two. Now deal with that
Speaker 1: on top of it. Yeah, questions, oh am I gonna die?
Speaker 1: My five year old asking are you want to get old?
Speaker 1: I don't want you to get old. I'm never gonna
Speaker 1: get old. You're not gonna die. This stuff like that, most, well,
Speaker 1: how do you handle this? Most of Walker's biggest fears
Speaker 1: there are about that. We were just talking about it
Speaker 1: because I mentioned, you know, we're gonna talk about Willie Davis,
Speaker 1: the packers grade who passed away, and um, they asked
Speaker 1: me about that because I was looking up some stuff
Speaker 1: in a book and he happened to pass away in
Speaker 1: Santa Monica, and they were just like, well, where does
Speaker 1: he go after the hospital? I was like, well, either
Speaker 1: go you know, in the ground, or you know, they
Speaker 1: burn them up and put him in a can. You know,
Speaker 1: just not the way I expected to get into this
Speaker 1: news brief. But I just said, they got to heaven,
Speaker 1: but you could, you could give them the literal breakdown
Speaker 1: of what happens. Well, we go buy cemented that it's
Speaker 1: come up before because we got they go swimming near
Speaker 1: a cemetery. They asked what that is. I tell him, yes,
Speaker 1: that is something toward to a little Toddler corpse talk
Speaker 1: maybe putting Greg in on it speech. And I didn't
Speaker 1: really say that that part of it I was making up.
Speaker 1: We might talk about spreading ashes somewhere, you know, over
Speaker 1: the ocean, but I don't know about a can. And son.
Speaker 1: Make sure you use a good crematorium. You don't want chunky,
Speaker 1: you want nice. I didn't. I didn't really, all right, Yes,
Speaker 1: let's do some news. I like to spice it up
Speaker 1: here at Casa del Slayer. Today is heroind Villains Day.
Speaker 1: All right, About thirty five minutes wore the show was
Speaker 1: scheduled to start, I said, Erica, did we have a
Speaker 1: news drop yet? You said nothing yet, you know, waited
Speaker 1: one to three beats, and then I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: here it comes. Maybe we'll use something from my new
Speaker 1: viral video that I put out. Okay, well, you know
Speaker 1: it's important because it's it's the first time in at
Speaker 1: least like four or five days that Eric has repeatedly
Speaker 1: asked us to retweet something. So it's like four to
Speaker 1: five days the second time you've exaggerated, you said, smashed
Speaker 1: the retweet. Ricky, tell us about that video because it's
Speaker 1: getting some love, it's getting some pop on social. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's doing pretty well. We just did a quarantine, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Uniform revealed we have all the Browns released.
Speaker 1: There's today. We actually had this video done last week,
Speaker 1: but we wanted to release it when the brown sits
Speaker 1: so it kind of you know, matched the peak that's
Speaker 1: social for you, Greg and Um, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: funny that they do these dumb hip hop videos like
Speaker 1: revealing the uniform, So we're like, why don't we do
Speaker 1: what our quarantine uniform looks like? Mark, do you have
Speaker 1: a problem with Ricky using the back of your favorite
Speaker 1: team's uniform reveal to launch a viral content, then maybe
Speaker 1: steal the spotlight a little bit from your Browns, not overtly,
Speaker 1: because if I suggest any sort of anti Ricky narrative
Speaker 1: attached to this, what will happen is on our our
Speaker 1: Instagram page. My image won't appear for the next two
Speaker 1: or three months. Um, it'll be all Dan and Greg
Speaker 1: and it'll probably take place on Twitter and other platforms.
Speaker 1: So very much, very much any he's done. And if
Speaker 1: if Ricky can overtake our Instagram page with images of
Speaker 1: none of us but all for friends, why not go
Speaker 1: for it? Well, Lakisha, Colleen, James Slater, they're friends of
Speaker 1: the show, so they are videography. Yeah, West did West
Speaker 1: did some great you know camera work all right, good
Speaker 1: Stu And every every once in a while you could
Speaker 1: tell there's gonna be a little assessler edge to the show,
Speaker 1: and I think we got the edge today looking forward
Speaker 1: to it barely. I'm barely spoken in the show so far.
Speaker 1: All Right. I mentioned I mentioned that we talk a
Speaker 1: little bit more about, you know, what's going on with
Speaker 1: sports going forward? Will we have any type of sporting
Speaker 1: calendar in two thousand twenty. As COVID nineteen turns everything
Speaker 1: in the world upside down, it's time for our first
Speaker 1: appearance from Dr Anthony Faucci. We love this guy, Tony Faucci.
Speaker 1: It's the guy UM that Colleen has fallen force. She
Speaker 1: said it as much on last last week's show. He's
Speaker 1: the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Effectious
Speaker 1: Diseases UH, and he's a member of Trump's White House
Speaker 1: Corona Task Force. And he's a guy that a lot
Speaker 1: of people UM are trusting in this time to give
Speaker 1: us UM smart, sensible, UM medically based and based on
Speaker 1: science UH input on what's going on with this terrible
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen and the coronavirus. He also is debunking the
Speaker 1: myth that five G lower's immunity UH to coronavirus, which
Speaker 1: is all good stuff. We need somebody out there to say,
Speaker 1: you know, your cell phone bars aren't gonna give you
Speaker 1: a coronavirus. Fauci just an example of why he is
Speaker 1: such a stud in this situation, right Mark, I think
Speaker 1: he's doing a great job, and he's doing it with
Speaker 1: um people around him that might not be direct allies.
Speaker 1: So it's there's a there's an element of bravery to
Speaker 1: saying what's on his mind, how he feels. Yes, Faucci
Speaker 1: was on Good Luck America. I don't know what that is,
Speaker 1: but a man by the name of Peter Hamby interviewed
Speaker 1: Faucci and he was He asked Faucci when we might
Speaker 1: expect to see sports again, baseball, football, everything else. Here's
Speaker 1: a Faucci had to say, here's a way of doing that.
Speaker 1: Nobody comes to the stadium. Put them in big hotels,
Speaker 1: you know, wherever you want to play, keep them very
Speaker 1: well surveilled and namely a surveillance, but have them tested
Speaker 1: like every week, and make sure they don't wind up
Speaker 1: infecting each other or their family, and just let them
Speaker 1: play the season. And Ricky, did you put that music
Speaker 1: under there? And that was from that from the show?
Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, again, it seems far off. But since
Speaker 1: we have no way of knowing how long this is
Speaker 1: gonna linger. And and when it comes to a vaccine
Speaker 1: or this idea, when we know that everybody is safe,
Speaker 1: it feels like the NFL will be affected and perhaps seriously,
Speaker 1: you know, by the time August and September rolls around.
Speaker 1: I feel like, since I was a child, every sports publication,
Speaker 1: you know, every few years, you would see predictions for
Speaker 1: the future, and one of the predictions was always like,
Speaker 1: at some point before you die, sports will transition fully
Speaker 1: to television or internet, and there will be nobody in
Speaker 1: the stadiums. And it always seemed joyless and sterile to me.
Speaker 1: And it's not something I really have interested. M hmm,
Speaker 1: it would you wouldn't be wed. I kind of see
Speaker 1: what you're saying. I'm with us a little bit on that.
Speaker 1: I aesthetically, I understand where you're coming from. Absolutely. But
Speaker 1: let's say you have the option of having a half
Speaker 1: of red season, but it's without fans. Are you gonna
Speaker 1: watch it? You're gonna want? No? I've checked out for
Speaker 1: seasons a time before, even with fans. I'd rather read
Speaker 1: a book or or study the history of baseball. I
Speaker 1: I I just that's not for me, And it's easy
Speaker 1: to say that now maybe if we maybe, if it
Speaker 1: goes on for a long time and I'm I pine
Speaker 1: for it, may maybe, but it's just not something that
Speaker 1: interests me. Well, I'll say this was since it's so unprecedented.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're you're saying that now is totally
Speaker 1: fair because you can only say how you feel in
Speaker 1: the moment. If the game started, and let's say the
Speaker 1: Reds are twenty games over five and the product was
Speaker 1: the same for the most part, it's guys playing at
Speaker 1: the top level of the sport against each other and
Speaker 1: and you kind of get used to the lack of noise.
Speaker 1: I know that will take a while for all of
Speaker 1: us if it happened, But I feel like I would
Speaker 1: be able to get into it if if the if
Speaker 1: the product on the field was still good and that
Speaker 1: didn't feel like it was compromised. That to me is
Speaker 1: the biggest thing that's that's a fair retort. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, if the Reds were twenty games over five hundred,
Speaker 1: I'd probably check to see if hell froze over before
Speaker 1: anything happened. But yeah, I might get swept up whatever
Speaker 1: fever that cause oh man, this is weird. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy I mentioned earlier was actually the
Speaker 1: the Santa Clara um what is it, the chief executive
Speaker 1: for Santa Clara County who thought it would be a
Speaker 1: major miracle for the NFL season to start on time. Now,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure there's certain people within the NFL
Speaker 1: that feel I feel differently and there, and the governor
Speaker 1: is going to have his Sayana, as you mentioned, But
Speaker 1: these are not, you know, events that are just taking
Speaker 1: place in a vacuum. People are traveling for these events.
Speaker 1: Who knows what the travel restrictions are going to be
Speaker 1: in terms of like traveling across states. Who knows at
Speaker 1: that point, Like I kind of figured when this all started, okay, well,
Speaker 1: well we have enough time before the NFL season. But
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty safe to say that whatever world
Speaker 1: we're returning to is gonna be different for a while,
Speaker 1: maybe until there's you know, a vaccine. Yeah, I'm with you, Greg,
Speaker 1: I think it right now. It's a wish. It's a
Speaker 1: nice wish. We would wish that the NFL season would
Speaker 1: start on time. And you can continue to beat the
Speaker 1: drum of we're gonna aim for sixteen games. We're gonna
Speaker 1: aim for UM all of this and maybe UM fan
Speaker 1: free venues. Uh, I'm fine with I would I would
Speaker 1: say this if if the brown season started today, UM,
Speaker 1: I would check in because why wouldn't I wote what
Speaker 1: better do I have to do during big chunks of
Speaker 1: this UM and beyond it even being our our employment.
Speaker 1: But it would matter what's happening around sports. I I
Speaker 1: personally just personally would struggle to fall into um, you know,
Speaker 1: pockets of distraction and delight around a stadium free football
Speaker 1: game if the rest of the country is still totally
Speaker 1: melting down. I mean I could for a bit, but
Speaker 1: it's it's a limited distraction. Let me pose the question
Speaker 1: to you one more time now, Mark a week later.
Speaker 1: You could be part of the team that finds the
Speaker 1: vaccine and puts an end to all this in decision
Speaker 1: and madness and craziness. Or you could be an all
Speaker 1: time great coach for the Browns, bringing multiple titles to
Speaker 1: believe land. Your choice, well, I mean we've just discussed
Speaker 1: um Fauci and his uh you know, Henchman positive Henchman.
Speaker 1: I think they've got it. You just gave me my
Speaker 1: fantasy baseball team name. If a season happens, I don't
Speaker 1: know what they need for me at this point. I
Speaker 1: still see a Browns team that needs all those changes.
Speaker 1: So again, Be it's a great band name that is awesome,
Speaker 1: positive Henchman, All right, let's move on. So Be you're
Speaker 1: sticking with Okay, But by the way, no judgment there.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to see after that conversation if that
Speaker 1: changed anything. Nothing. No, not at all. I'm very I'm
Speaker 1: very strong in my opinion on that one. Alright. Some
Speaker 1: sad news, Uh. In the NFL, longtime Packers defensive end
Speaker 1: Willie Davis, he's passed away at the age of eighty five. Uh.
Speaker 1: He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in nineteen
Speaker 1: eight one. First two years were spent in Cleveland with
Speaker 1: the Browns, but then he got traded to Vince Lombardi's
Speaker 1: Packers in nineteen sixty spent the decade there. Um a
Speaker 1: big time pass rusher. Saxton had become a stat which
Speaker 1: blows my mind. But sacks were not an official stat
Speaker 1: in the NFL until nineteen eighty two. So all these
Speaker 1: greats um coming off the edge in the old days,
Speaker 1: you don't it's difficult to measure what they were if
Speaker 1: you didn't see them, but he was a big time
Speaker 1: pass rusher. He led the Packers the five league titles,
Speaker 1: including the backsback Super Bowls to start the Super Bowl era.
Speaker 1: A Grambling Um alum and also a member of the
Speaker 1: Black College Football Hall of Fame. So um, very sad news.
Speaker 1: Willie Davis staid, at the age of eighty five, West
Speaker 1: in your studies of the game, do you have any
Speaker 1: good Willie Davis anecdotes. There was a time when Mark
Speaker 1: and I were growing up and you would hear about
Speaker 1: the Packers defenses from the sixties dynasty with Vince Lombardi,
Speaker 1: and the only name you would hear was Ray Nitchkey,
Speaker 1: the middle linebacker who was sort of a Dick Buckus
Speaker 1: like own rattling menace in the middle of the defense.
Speaker 1: And then you read further and Willie Davis and Henry
Speaker 1: Jordan on the defensive line, Dave Robbinson a linebacker, her Baddeley,
Speaker 1: and Willie Wood in the secondary. This was a defense
Speaker 1: that was as star studded is just about any you
Speaker 1: would ever see. And Willie Davis was a five time
Speaker 1: All Pro, maybe even the best player on that defense,
Speaker 1: he would easily have the Packers all time sack record
Speaker 1: UM over a hundred. John Turney, who is a football
Speaker 1: researcher who goes back and watches games uh from the
Speaker 1: fifties and sixties, has he said that Willie Davis has
Speaker 1: somewhere between a hundred and hundred and twenty career sacks,
Speaker 1: and Davis has said Paul Horning reminded him one year
Speaker 1: that he had twenty five in a season, So you're
Speaker 1: talking about one of the better sax seasons of all time.
Speaker 1: This guy was legit studs as if um Michael Strahan's
Speaker 1: sack record could be anymore legitimate and what a joke?
Speaker 1: And he uh he started his career as a Cleveland
Speaker 1: round I can just imagine the nineteen sixties version of
Speaker 1: Mark sessler Um who knew of Willie Davis as an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman for one year on the Browns, who was
Speaker 1: then traded to become maybe the best defensive end in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Uh. He was the captain of the Packers,
Speaker 1: I mean of all of all these great like he
Speaker 1: was the first black captain, a black guy being captain
Speaker 1: in Green Bay in the in the sixties, the leader
Speaker 1: of that team he played for Eddie Robinson, Paul Brown,
Speaker 1: and Vince Lombardi. I mean that's like the Mount I
Speaker 1: would say on the Mount rushmore of of football coaches
Speaker 1: from that era. It's good point and it it raises
Speaker 1: the question. And I know this would probably um be
Speaker 1: far too in the weeds and take too much time,
Speaker 1: but what if you had a committee that went back
Speaker 1: and their job you hide him away. I mean it's
Speaker 1: almost like a c I A project. You hide them
Speaker 1: away for two or three years. They watch every NFL
Speaker 1: game ever and they bring us up to date on
Speaker 1: some of these uh sack totals and like what stunning
Speaker 1: would results would have um from that era that that
Speaker 1: are completely lost in careers and achievements completely lost because
Speaker 1: we weren't tabulating certain numbers back then. It's a great idea.
Speaker 1: The only problem is, I imagine there are various telecast
Speaker 1: dark spots, right Yeah. I don't think like, um, you know,
Speaker 1: full fledged all twenty two from like seven angles happening
Speaker 1: back then, but even one angle, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: would imagine that's probable. I've looked up quite a bit
Speaker 1: of this stuff, like Tourney has Deacon Jones with a
Speaker 1: couple of seasons twenty six and twenty eight sacks. There's
Speaker 1: a guy who played for the Bengals in seventy seventy
Speaker 1: seven named Coy Bacon who some some studies show him
Speaker 1: with like thirty sacks in a season, and then other
Speaker 1: ones to have him at like twenty two. So there's
Speaker 1: no like agreed upon total. Also, before we move on,
Speaker 1: his nickname was doctor. And uh, they asked, you know,
Speaker 1: why was his nickname doctor? He said he was called
Speaker 1: that as a as a child by all the women
Speaker 1: because he made him feel so good. Yeah, that's honestly
Speaker 1: the best thing of art. I'm so happy you brought
Speaker 1: that up, because that's something I want to say be
Speaker 1: heard about myself. If my eulogy was delivered, Good job
Speaker 1: Greg putting a button on and not the only sad
Speaker 1: loss uh in the NFL fraternity. Um. I missed this
Speaker 1: earlier this week, but I wanted to make sure to
Speaker 1: touch on it. Former Vikings and Seahawks quarterback Tavaris Jackson
Speaker 1: died on Sunday night in a car crash. He was
Speaker 1: just thirty six years old. Ten year NFL career began
Speaker 1: with the Vikings, drafted in the second round of the
Speaker 1: two thousand six draft. Started twenty one games, uh including
Speaker 1: a playoff game for the Vikings, but it was typically
Speaker 1: a backup with them. He bounced around a little bit
Speaker 1: before leaving the league. He had been doing some staying
Speaker 1: in football, not at the pro level, but as a
Speaker 1: coach in recent years. Tavaris Jackson dead at the age
Speaker 1: of thirty six, and that is terrible. I would give
Speaker 1: you a little nugget UM related to this show and
Speaker 1: Tamaris Jackson that, uh, you know, when we when we started,
Speaker 1: before the podcast, we were Around the League, a blogging
Speaker 1: site that kind of launched inside NFL dot com, and
Speaker 1: suddenly Dan and I were the initial people to to
Speaker 1: write for that, and UM had general managers and agents
Speaker 1: and players suddenly startled and annoyed at us UM for
Speaker 1: some of the articles coming out from that time, and
Speaker 1: the first ever Around the League post was based on
Speaker 1: Tavaris Jackson. UM. I don't think it's appropriate for me
Speaker 1: to discuss what the what the angle of the story was,
Speaker 1: but he was the subject and uh so a little
Speaker 1: bit of UM podcast history attached to him. Back up
Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson on the Seahawks team was he really wow.
Speaker 1: He was the number two, yeah, because he started um
Speaker 1: most of the season. I think it was the year
Speaker 1: before Russell was was drafted, had about a five season,
Speaker 1: had a winning season with with Brad Childress and Daryl
Speaker 1: Bevil and Troy Williamson and Adrian Peterson back before that
Speaker 1: as a starter too. I have a Tavaris Jackson memory
Speaker 1: back in two thousand six h the Jets and Vikings
Speaker 1: were on the schedule against each other. It was early December,
Speaker 1: and my friend Greg from back in New York is
Speaker 1: a huge Vikings fan, so we said, you know, let's
Speaker 1: do it. Let's fly to Minneapolis, and it was both
Speaker 1: teams were in playoff contention, so we it just worked
Speaker 1: out that way. Luckily we had bought the tickets barn advance.
Speaker 1: So it's a week fifteen game, essentially a playing game
Speaker 1: for both teams, and the Jets jump out to a
Speaker 1: big lead. It's twenty to seven, and Brad Johnson is
Speaker 1: the Vikings quarterback and he's not playing well and the
Speaker 1: crowd's cheering and they want Tavrs Jackson, who was the
Speaker 1: kid that had the big preseason. They bring him in
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. It was essentially his NFL debut,
Speaker 1: uh in meaningful football, and he led them to a
Speaker 1: touchdown drive and kind of put him back in the game.
Speaker 1: The Jets still won the game, And then afterwards, me
Speaker 1: and my buddy were walking outside the Metrodome and there
Speaker 1: was a card in comic shop across the street from
Speaker 1: the stadium. And who's in there signing autographs. It's Tavars
Speaker 1: Jackson and he's in there and everyone the whole the
Speaker 1: whole place is packed with a huge line Vikings are great.
Speaker 1: That's a great fan base of waiting. And he's sitting
Speaker 1: next to his girlfriend at the time, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was his a future wife. I have
Speaker 1: no idea. I know he's married with three kids. Um,
Speaker 1: but I remember thinking at the time, Wow, this like
Speaker 1: we're here for this guy's moment, because at that time
Speaker 1: it was very clear that Brad Johnson was gonna lose
Speaker 1: his job, and Jackson did take over as a starter
Speaker 1: the next week, And uh, I'd made me think of
Speaker 1: that immediately because I remember seeing like he clearly, even
Speaker 1: though they had lost the game, that he had gotten
Speaker 1: his chance, and he just seemed to be in good spirit.
Speaker 1: So it was uh, you know, very sad uh to
Speaker 1: loose to ours jacks in this young total bummer? All right, Uh,
Speaker 1: moving on, Mark, You've been waiting for this. The Browns
Speaker 1: revealed their newest jerseys and it is a one of
Speaker 1: those throwback to the future deals and they have adopted
Speaker 1: essentially And correct me if I'm wrong here, Mark, what
Speaker 1: is there more traditional look the one that you grew
Speaker 1: up on in the eighties. Um, maybe some minor differences helmet,
Speaker 1: uh help, face mask, color aside. This is the Brown's
Speaker 1: uniform you've been waiting for, right. I think the it'd
Speaker 1: be safe to say that ninety eight percent of Brown's
Speaker 1: fans um of a certain age. We're hoping this is
Speaker 1: the direction they'd go in. They certainly hinted at this.
Speaker 1: I think they to maybe prevent pre uh you know,
Speaker 1: reveal outrage. They made it clear I think, for dating
Speaker 1: back to a year plus, that the uniforms would return
Speaker 1: to traditional, a traditional look. I love them, I think
Speaker 1: because I love them because they just remind me of
Speaker 1: uniforms they should not have veered away from to begin with.
Speaker 1: Some of the more notable changes, because if you go
Speaker 1: back to some people are saying, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: the uniforms all over again. Well, the orange and brown
Speaker 1: sock stripes are new. Uh. They did keep the Matt
Speaker 1: helmet finished from the more recent UM Debacle version, which
Speaker 1: I like. I think that was one of the only
Speaker 1: things I liked about those. It harks back to classic
Speaker 1: Browns uniforms and you know, depending on where you sit aesthetically,
Speaker 1: I would say these are some of the better uniforms
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I'm being objective about that. They're simple,
Speaker 1: they're sparse, and in a time when and it's not
Speaker 1: just Nike, but I think we're seeing uniforms going these
Speaker 1: new fangled directions that are getting tagged as a f
Speaker 1: L looks or certain college looks. This is old um,
Speaker 1: this is old school, this is Cleveland. And I think
Speaker 1: the response has been UM extremely positive. And I give
Speaker 1: the team credit in an era where this has been
Speaker 1: a problem for them. Um, they listened to the fans.
Speaker 1: They didn't get too cute or too creative or too
Speaker 1: off bent here, and they nailed it. I think I
Speaker 1: would consider it a home run UM at a time
Speaker 1: when the Browns needed something and get you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's similar to the Bucks when the Bucks are a
Speaker 1: bad football team, but their uniforms make your eyes bleed.
Speaker 1: You're doubling down on the pain. The Browns have removed
Speaker 1: at least the uniform aspect of this. The next part
Speaker 1: is to bring some of the traditional winning back versus
Speaker 1: five and six win um disaster dramas. This quote from
Speaker 1: executive vice president and co owner J. W. Johns, I
Speaker 1: didn't know. I thought the Hanselms were the only owners,
Speaker 1: but this come of seven minority stakeh As you look
Speaker 1: at iconic franchises like the Browns, the Bears, the Packers,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys, they're true, true to who they are.
Speaker 1: They're not doing a lot of changes and trying to
Speaker 1: make a lot of flashy moves with their uniforms. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: they should have never changed them in the first place.
Speaker 1: They should I understand there's always that that move you
Speaker 1: want to kind of freshen things up. But when you're
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, when we've talked about the hundred times mark,
Speaker 1: there's only so many directions you can go in the
Speaker 1: first place. So going with the more historic meat and
Speaker 1: potatoes version always made the most sense for the brown
Speaker 1: So you understand why they gave into temptation because it
Speaker 1: seems like a really fun thing to have all these
Speaker 1: different reveals, and the teams go nuts on social and
Speaker 1: with big events. I remember the Browns event five years
Speaker 1: ago when the guy got stuck underneath the uh, the
Speaker 1: overcoat when he's trying to pull it off, and it
Speaker 1: had all the flashing lights everywhere. It was like a
Speaker 1: club scene. This is what it should always been. So
Speaker 1: they're they're admitting a mistake. The Browns, they do that
Speaker 1: from time to time, make mistakes, and it's good that they're,
Speaker 1: you know, getting where they should be. Right. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wonder what the what the other people in the room
Speaker 1: to think. I mean, I I'm pleased. What do you guys,
Speaker 1: how do you feel? Uniforms are a touchstone um for
Speaker 1: classic franchises, especially when times are bad. They make you,
Speaker 1: like you said, harken back to the times when they
Speaker 1: were good, and I would even you talked about the
Speaker 1: NFL teams the Packers, uh, the Cowboys and Steelers. I
Speaker 1: think the Raiders are one of those teams with a
Speaker 1: classic uniform that stand the test of time, and you
Speaker 1: could uh to me. I think first of the New
Speaker 1: York Yankees dance team, like the pinstripes and you think
Speaker 1: of the history and and there's something there to grab
Speaker 1: onto as a fan. It just stands the test of time.
Speaker 1: To me, it's sort of like this is how sports
Speaker 1: should be. You don't want your organization changing for change
Speaker 1: stake all the time. And I think the best organizations
Speaker 1: keep things classic. No, they look great, although the to
Speaker 1: be fair, the color rush ones they kept also look
Speaker 1: great and those are newer. Um, it feels like a
Speaker 1: home run. Congratulations, Mark, I know this was very important
Speaker 1: to you. Well, it's like if they got it wrong
Speaker 1: and there's no there's nothing else happening, there's no other
Speaker 1: news happening. This becomes the centerpiece for four or five
Speaker 1: weeks and then frankly four or five years. So are
Speaker 1: you gonna are you going to enjoy it? I mean,
Speaker 1: what are you doing to celebrate? How high? Like? How
Speaker 1: long will this high last for you? I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: opening up all the doors and windows in my house
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm just have my car running in the
Speaker 1: driveway with no one in it. What the little things
Speaker 1: I can do in the current environment to show that
Speaker 1: I'm pleased. If they rolled out ugly uniforms, would you
Speaker 1: have backed that car into the garage and then closed it.
Speaker 1: And I would have simply walked right into the hot
Speaker 1: stone of COVID and just said take me away. Where
Speaker 1: where is that located? I find it all right? Uh
Speaker 1: And speaking of the Browns, some news floating around there,
Speaker 1: Jay Glazer, uh me and him have feuded. He's not
Speaker 1: aware of it about mail bag stuff in the past.
Speaker 1: But he's also pretty gifted uh NFL insider in the
Speaker 1: sense that when Glazer says a scoop, when he talks
Speaker 1: about scoopage, you take it seriously because he's one of
Speaker 1: the most plugged in guys. And on Tuesday night, uh
Speaker 1: he teased his Wednesday night radio show, which is coming
Speaker 1: up in a few hours Fox Football Now, promising quote
Speaker 1: big national news. I'm not kidding around, so we don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll find out by the time you listen to this,
Speaker 1: you might know what it is, but we don't know
Speaker 1: what it is. And as that scoopage has been hanging
Speaker 1: in the air w f a N which comes up
Speaker 1: a lot on the show, especially recently. The New York
Speaker 1: sports radio station Mark Melusis, who works for that station,
Speaker 1: tweeted that the Browns and Vikings were in trade talks
Speaker 1: for star wide receiver Odell Beckham. Here is the tweet
Speaker 1: from Melussis, who is not a plugged in NFL media guy.
Speaker 1: You should understand this as I before I even read
Speaker 1: this that this is not scoopid you should take seriously.
Speaker 1: But sometimes these things do come to pass. Here we
Speaker 1: go discussions on a trade that would send Beckham to
Speaker 1: the Vikings for a second and fifth round pick next year.
Speaker 1: Trade is not den done, but the deal is being discussed.
Speaker 1: So people are connecting the Glazer big announcement with this.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but it's in the air.
Speaker 1: You guys think this is something that could happen. You
Speaker 1: think the Browns mark would move on from Beckham after
Speaker 1: one year? Well, I mean, I want to hear what
Speaker 1: what Greg has to think about the source of this
Speaker 1: number one. But I would say this that U two
Speaker 1: things before Beckham would ship to the Browns. And I'm
Speaker 1: someone that when I get um caught up on a
Speaker 1: Browns like rumor, I will go deep Twitter and I'll
Speaker 1: read anything that anyone puts out there. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of on the Dark Weapon. I mean, I I
Speaker 1: just I just I want to just see what's out there,
Speaker 1: And there was a lot of chatter about Beckham on
Speaker 1: a low level plane that no one would take seriously
Speaker 1: before it happened. So I just think that in general,
Speaker 1: um stuff gets out there. I don't I would say
Speaker 1: this was um. This seemed to come more from the
Speaker 1: Vikings according to this report. My two things is, why
Speaker 1: why move someone who at this point, unless you're gonna
Speaker 1: go draft wide receiver is critical to your offense. Number two,
Speaker 1: I don't think his salary is extremely prohibitive and get
Speaker 1: more value than that if you're gonna trade O'Dell Beckham,
Speaker 1: who have billionaire You've just released new jerseys. How many
Speaker 1: people right now are buying Beckham jerseys? Okay, I just
Speaker 1: watched a documentary with Kevin Stefanski, whose son is obsessed
Speaker 1: with Odell Beckham. I'm not that has no factor in this,
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna move on from him, I need
Speaker 1: a good explanation of why that's happening, and the value
Speaker 1: better blow people away where the lingering criticism around that
Speaker 1: would fade quickly. Well, you're not going to get the
Speaker 1: value that that the the Giants got if they traded Beckham.
Speaker 1: You're not going to get that package is if the
Speaker 1: explanation mark is that he's a pain in the ass
Speaker 1: and he's always hurt. I mean, I mean pain and
Speaker 1: nass feels to me because he honestly, Yeah, there are
Speaker 1: a few little things with him. Um in a with
Speaker 1: a team that was very dysfunctional last year, Like, is
Speaker 1: he that big of a pain in the ass? I mean,
Speaker 1: is that something that the Giants anymore? Well? But I
Speaker 1: think the media like is going to cling to that
Speaker 1: no matter what. I just don't see that he if
Speaker 1: you go look at the good things that Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: has done in Cleveland, and I'm talking about charity wise
Speaker 1: and for his teammates and other stuff. Um, I just
Speaker 1: don't buy into the we've got to move on from
Speaker 1: this problem character on any level. I just think they
Speaker 1: have unfinished business. Like, as somebody who believes in his
Speaker 1: talent and Baker Mayfield's talent, it would be very disappointing
Speaker 1: to me if the Brown's just cut the cord without
Speaker 1: um us seeing like a full healthy Odell Beckham season
Speaker 1: and an offensive line that can block for Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to plug Jake Laser Show anymore.
Speaker 1: Because you know, we've already brought him up four times
Speaker 1: in the last five minutes. But uh, he did a
Speaker 1: TV show first of all, not a radio show. So
Speaker 1: that's fine. We can get little misinformation is not a
Speaker 1: bad thing the new Here's what Lazer tweeted. The news
Speaker 1: I have is not transactional news, not a player getting
Speaker 1: traded or signed. H So you know it's probably not
Speaker 1: Beckham related. So everybody calmed down a little bit. There
Speaker 1: is a reason why no other you know, people that
Speaker 1: cover the NFL is reporting this because to Mark's point,
Speaker 1: I think maybe things have been floating around like on
Speaker 1: the dark web, and maybe you know, someone like Melusas
Speaker 1: who doesn't have as much experience, is gonna put that
Speaker 1: out there. That that said, it doesn't seem that crazy
Speaker 1: to me that Beckham would be a guy that gets
Speaker 1: traded on draft Day, especially if the Browns are sitting
Speaker 1: at that ten spot and they have the receiver that
Speaker 1: they love, and if they got a package for Beckham,
Speaker 1: then then it makes a little bit of Bob mcgainn,
Speaker 1: who we all respect in this the in the draft realm,
Speaker 1: and he's writing for The Athletic Now. I think he
Speaker 1: said that they're the people that he's talking to. They
Speaker 1: were like fifteen wide receivers who can legit play coming
Speaker 1: into this draft class. So if you wanted to get
Speaker 1: get out from under our contract and bring in somebody
Speaker 1: on the rookie scale that you really believe, only two
Speaker 1: or three that you could conceivably believe, you know, would
Speaker 1: replace Odell Beckham. But but there are those guys where
Speaker 1: his most drafts, you you would not have that or zero.
Speaker 1: But but at least you might have a front office
Speaker 1: believing that that those top guys could do something like that. Alright,
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. Before we sign off,
Speaker 1: I thought it would be good to check in with somebody,
Speaker 1: somebody that, uh, we haven't heard from for a while,
Speaker 1: someone who's been very busy within the walls of our company,
Speaker 1: virtual walls as they are now, somebody who's got takes,
Speaker 1: somebody who just turned to year older and uh, and
Speaker 1: there he is coming to you right now, Dave. Really,
Speaker 1: let's tell everybody. Are you doing right? It's nice to
Speaker 1: see you and talk to people. Senior editor NFL Media.
Speaker 1: Is that accurate title? Yes, that's accurate. How about you?
Speaker 1: I mean, you really when you when you bring in
Speaker 1: a surprise guest. You really hit us with the star
Speaker 1: power here Dan, listen. I think there's a lot to
Speaker 1: episode of the Bunker one, So I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: I wasn't Top one. Do you have Do you have
Speaker 1: like earphones or anything? David? Are you just you just
Speaker 1: speaking into your computer microphone to the company issued computer microphone.
Speaker 1: It's crisp. Audio is good. First of all, I want
Speaker 1: to thank you, Dave for working so hard keeping the
Speaker 1: desk moving for NFL dot com. I just want to
Speaker 1: touch on a couple of things quickly with you before
Speaker 1: we say goodbye Number one, even a little more quickly
Speaker 1: because of this audio thing. Let's be honest. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's just Greg. You just gotta Dave, what is going
Speaker 1: on with you right now? You're just celebrated a birthday.
Speaker 1: What was it like to celebrate a birthday in deep quarantine?
Speaker 1: It was interesting? Um three last week I did a
Speaker 1: bunch of zooms with some friends, UM share um popped
Speaker 1: the solo bottle of champagne. That was fun. Oh not again? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know, just listeners might remember that Dave had
Speaker 1: a bottle of champagne all queued up to pop in
Speaker 1: a hot tub when the Panthers were in the Super Bowl. Uh,
Speaker 1: he worked the desk that night. Cam Newton didn't fall
Speaker 1: on the fumble, the Broncos win, and Dave then went
Speaker 1: back to his house alone and and drank the champagne
Speaker 1: in a state of depression a month later, because I
Speaker 1: also saved it for a potential usc national championship. And
Speaker 1: that's when they lost in Gilanova in the last second
Speaker 1: the three ball. Yeah, so a little bit of a
Speaker 1: curse champagne, but this one went down a little easier. Okay.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Cam Newton topic number two. Uh, and you
Speaker 1: can follow Dave really on Twitter at David Underscore really
Speaker 1: really good stuff, and also on Instagram at David No
Speaker 1: Underscore really just d A V I D E l Y.
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on on that Instagram account lately.
Speaker 1: I recommend plugging in. There you go, there's your little
Speaker 1: plug that you asked for, Dave um and then the Panthers.
Speaker 1: Speaking Cam Newton, you, how about the idea that you
Speaker 1: you kicked the hero out of town for the guy
Speaker 1: that averages six air yards per attempt teddy Bridgel. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's it is what it is the new era
Speaker 1: they're rebuilding. I hope to see Cam Newton land on
Speaker 1: his feet with a good team somewhere. Uh. But if
Speaker 1: you landed on your patriots, Greg and Erica, I think
Speaker 1: that would be that'd be fun to see. But it
Speaker 1: was sad. Um My mom for some reason, she sent
Speaker 1: me like a care package and she included the observer
Speaker 1: from the day that Cam Newton was released for some reason.
Speaker 1: And she's not on your interesting a birthday present. So really,
Speaker 1: you named your dog Cam kind of like Mark named
Speaker 1: his kid coult. Are you you know with a dog
Speaker 1: you could change the name in theory? Right? What about
Speaker 1: down Arrow six point zero? We're uh, we're rebranding Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater Dan. It's eighteen air feet per attempt. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you guys are rough. There is that's a cute though.
Speaker 1: He's a good boy. He's a good boy. And then
Speaker 1: she she interesting and I just want to touch on
Speaker 1: that you have the dog, and that's good to have
Speaker 1: companionship during this situation. Um, so you have the roommates, Eily, No,
Speaker 1: I guess not. If you were eating, drinking along the dog.
Speaker 1: We talked a lot. I once, Um, I took a
Speaker 1: log of everything she did one day because I was
Speaker 1: really curious about her sleeping habits. That's like entertainment quarantine.
Speaker 1: Do you ever go online and take gay log of
Speaker 1: everything your ex girlfriend does in today? No? I have
Speaker 1: not yet. That's I think that's more for like if
Speaker 1: it's post June one, because I think for a lot
Speaker 1: of people during this time, you might check in on
Speaker 1: what's going on in social with certain the right time
Speaker 1: for that yet all maybe in the future. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's been like it's been ten years. I think that'd
Speaker 1: be a little weird. Really, what um like? I I
Speaker 1: would imagine the story is grim for this app. But
Speaker 1: what is happening on Tinder in the middle of all this?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wouldn't know about some other dating
Speaker 1: app just about there's other apps. What's your preferred app
Speaker 1: right now? You could say Bumble Bumble? Oh yeah good?
Speaker 1: But what's happening today? Is Bumble nice right now? Or
Speaker 1: is it sort of a is it like an airport?
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's mixed back. It's a lot of sexting.
Speaker 1: I mean, you do what you can. You know, if
Speaker 1: you connect with somebody on Bumble and maybe you have
Speaker 1: anyone knows that you connected to stuffing on bumble and
Speaker 1: really hit it off. Would you risk at all with
Speaker 1: a meeting. I would not risk my health in the
Speaker 1: quarantine times, and no should anyone should any of your
Speaker 1: viewers out there. Very good, very good. You keep closing doors.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you're closing any doors at this
Speaker 1: point anything. I mean, I'm not anymore touche Again speaking
Speaker 1: with Dave Ellis, Senior editor nfl UH Dave again, you've
Speaker 1: been doing great work leading the team during this crisis.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you very much. And I would say
Speaker 1: I would say that if you did want to reach
Speaker 1: out just to see if certain people for your pastor okay,
Speaker 1: you can do that. And I don't think it's even weird.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a breach of any protocol. I
Speaker 1: I appreciate it all right. And and Dave, the people
Speaker 1: that say you're working like a nine month pregnant Lakisha
Speaker 1: a little too hard, I defend you against those criticisms,
Speaker 1: but I think I think their basis. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Who are those people? Greg? People talking? And one final
Speaker 1: note at the headphones of the new European headphone to
Speaker 1: the microphone. Whenever you do is something like this, So
Speaker 1: what second, don't worry about it. Dave really follow him
Speaker 1: on Twitter, Instagram. We love you, buddy. Just wanted to
Speaker 1: check in. Uh, you're looking good, you're looking healthy. So
Speaker 1: we're happy to We're happy to see and hear it. Thanks,
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks, there you go a great Dave. Really,
Speaker 1: I just thought it'd be nice to check in and Greg.
Speaker 1: I saw you arched eyebrow, but um, you talked about
Speaker 1: how you on our most recent show. You'd like to
Speaker 1: go back to the office and get back in the middle.
Speaker 1: That's somebody we haven't seen for a long time. The
Speaker 1: arch was completely at the audio quality. I mean, you
Speaker 1: can't come on. You cannot come on, just like driving
Speaker 1: a car into yea, the garage or something. It was terri.
Speaker 1: Do you want to put that on Eric a little bit.
Speaker 1: You can do that. It's just a producer. It's a
Speaker 1: little pre production work. Maybe, don't you dare? Don't you dare?
Speaker 1: I mean Eric also has the power just to remove
Speaker 1: Greg from the show whenever she feels like so, yeah,
Speaker 1: now is a fine time. I think we're wrapping up
Speaker 1: all right, Um, big show coming up, tomorrow. I'm excited
Speaker 1: about this. When Kyle Brandt of Good Morning Football, UH,
Speaker 1: the NFL Network Family, one of our favorite guys. It's
Speaker 1: his first appearance on the show, and I will do
Speaker 1: a little tease on this, Chris Westling. He has some
Speaker 1: unfinished business or something from the past that obviously was
Speaker 1: something that's stuck with him that he'd like to kind
Speaker 1: of bring to the forefront on tomorrow's show. And that's
Speaker 1: what he's gonna do. Nothing bad, nothing negative, but something
Speaker 1: clearly that has stuck with him that he wanted to
Speaker 1: address when he made an appearance on our podcast. So
Speaker 1: that's coming up tomorrow. You're saying this has specifically to
Speaker 1: do with me, you are directly connected to it. Yes,
Speaker 1: I am funneled. Yeah, nonplussed even so, nothing negative, but
Speaker 1: something clearly that's he wants to address. It feels like
Speaker 1: maybe something that's been on his conscience or what. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but Kyle reached out to me specifically to
Speaker 1: say he wanted to talk about this on the show,
Speaker 1: and I was only too happy to say, yes, of course,
Speaker 1: let's do it. I am for CLEMP but green Light,
Speaker 1: let's let's so not another feud. Per se with a
Speaker 1: g MFB character. Definitely not a feud. I think the
Speaker 1: opposite in fact. Uh. And then Friday The Twitter Show
Speaker 1: is back, So Thursday will be our final audio show
Speaker 1: the week tomorrow, and then Friday The Twitter Show is back,
Speaker 1: and we have Cam Jordan's Uh the Star Superstar Saints
Speaker 1: Defender will be joining us live on Friday, so make
Speaker 1: sure he checked that out. Oh really is that still? Maybe?
Speaker 1: I don't know it. Yeah, probably probably. Let's just say
Speaker 1: it's a go and it's not it's not and he's
Speaker 1: bringing a surprise guest. All right, good, so tune in
Speaker 1: for that. Dan has this signing off four Quiet Star
Speaker 1: and the Mailman, the Old Boss and Rick Hollywood behind
Speaker 1: the door of her apart until Thursday.