1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Today's episode of the Around the NFL Podcast 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: is presented by Rocket and Mortgage Joint Rocket Mortgage and 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: saying thank you to essential workers by posting a video 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: to everyone Knows a Hero dot com. Everyone Knows a 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: Hero dot Com. All right, let's get to the Wednesday show. 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast are all out of quarantine 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: jokes almost. Welcome to another edition of the Around the 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Jansas. I'm coming to 9 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: you from a city filled with heroes. In Bunker's Mark Sessler, 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: Chris Wesley, and Greg Rosdalt. What is up, boys? Hey 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: d Hey, how's everybody doing? It's hump day? Up day 12 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: in a quarantine? Nothing worse than the entire world has 13 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: ever happened. It's beautiful here in southern California. It is 14 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: starting to really get to me. Um though, this this 15 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: snow sports thing, and uh not a big college sports guy. 16 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: So March madness, I you know, that was an excitement 17 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: that was lost. Um, other people, that was a much 18 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: bigger hit. I get that. Um, NBA that stinks, but 19 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: the Nicks being terrible it was taking me out of 20 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: the league a little bit until playoff time. But not 21 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: having my Yankees, and I think there's a lot of 22 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: people out here like the Masters and people that are 23 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: big baseball fans and hockey would be getting hot right now. 24 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: For me, it's starting to like I'm feeling that itch, 25 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: like where are my sports? I'm I'm talking to you 26 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: guys right now, because I fell in love with sports 27 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: when I was young. So this idea that they've just 28 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: gone now and it's becoming just a part of the world. 29 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm not used to it. In fact, that starting the 30 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: itch is getting harder to scratch West. It's right in 31 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: the center of the back. Yeah, I had Football was 32 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: my first Baseball was my first love, and and I 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: was obsessed with it to my life. I got back 34 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: into it a few years ago with the Reds, and 35 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: they've been keeping me sane. Baseball's every day, and you 36 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: get used to that, you know, for a hundred and 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: sixty two straight days. You get one day off a 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: week maybe, but it's there every day, and it's for 39 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: the first times in our lives except for the ninety 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: for strike, it's not there. And I had sort of 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: I was excited for the Reds for the first time 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: in a while that they might actually reward my faith 43 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: and loyalty and and have a good season. But I 44 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: have a mental block on baseball. I just won't even 45 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: allow my mind to go there because I was so 46 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: excited for this season and now I just don't think 47 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: it's happening this summer at all. I hear you, guys, 48 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I I you know, openly don't 49 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: um track baseball or or really any sport outside of 50 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: football the same way as you guys do. But I 51 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: don't say that cynically. I think that, um, I've got 52 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: in my own friend group five or six guys who 53 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: uh lean on sports to distress and too necked with 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: something and to simply sit back and enjoy, and it's 55 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: it's been replaced with nothing. I mean, I'm at the 56 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: point where I don't care what Netflix show, UM you 57 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: are obsessed with. I'm done with Netflix. I'm kind of 58 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: done with movies. I'm looking at the books on bookshelves 59 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: and being like done with books. There's too much time 60 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: to inhale content. And at least sports um are highly unpredictable, 61 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: uh in a two or three hour time capsule, And 62 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: I think that's really missed with with baseball and I 63 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: think Damn would probably back me up on this. It's 64 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: not even just watching the games every day. It's sort 65 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: of the stories and the soap operas that you get into, 66 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: Like so and so is having a bad year, we 67 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: need to see him benched, or this guy's really hot 68 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: at Triple A. Let's bring him up to the majors. 69 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: He's a solution to all of our problems. And it's 70 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: that day to day sort of soap opera that you 71 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: get into, and it keeps your mind busy. And I 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: missed that. I missed getting caught up in the particulars 73 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: of a season. I being in that inner group that 74 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: follows the season closely, and I'm reading all the fan 75 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: blogs and the beat writers and just like completely, it's 76 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: it's a release for me baseball season as a daily exercise, 77 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: just like the NBA season or hockey or uh. These 78 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: other sports that are gone are for other people. So 79 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: that's the new normal we are in right now where 80 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't exist. From Greg are Hot, Governor Gavin Newsom. Uh. 81 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: This came today, I believe, or maybe yesterday. He called 82 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: sports and other large events unlikely this summer in California. 83 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: Here's the quote, the prospect of mass gatherings is negligible 84 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: at best until we get to herd immunity and get 85 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: to a vaccine. So that's a little bit foreboding and 86 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to it just in a minute or 87 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: so in the news, um about the idea of all 88 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: what does this mean for the NFL, Because the way 89 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: this all broke schedule wise or timing wise for the NFL, 90 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: it left football and the clear for the time being. 91 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: But you know how this is gonna be. It's gonna 92 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: sneak up on everybody. Unless this thing makes a hard 93 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: left and where in the clear, the NFL is going 94 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: to face issues just the way these other sports have. Yeah, 95 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: I think as this has gone on, the reality of 96 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: how long it's gonna take is is setting in. And 97 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: you guys mentioned like the baseball seas in sports in general, 98 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: I feel like our job on some level is just 99 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: like to help distract people from, you know, the reality 100 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: that they're gonna die someday, Like that's that's what sports is. 101 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: And now you've got none of that, and right, I mean, 102 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: instead of like being distracted from that, I think people 103 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: are facing that right in the mirror. Um, And and 104 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: we thought we had the perfect timing with football and everything, 105 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: but we'll get to it in the news, just like 106 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: the Bay Area, you know. Um, I think it's like 107 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: the sports commissioners, like health commissioner there, he's you know, 108 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: saying like we're making the decisions when people are back 109 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: in stadiums. It's not gonna be the president or the 110 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: commissioners of sports leagues. And maybe there's gonna be a 111 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: push and pull with that, but you realize, like it's 112 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: not as easy as just like, Okay, they'll be back 113 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: to go in September. What was that take that sports 114 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: distract us from the fact that we're going to die. Well, 115 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: I think most, I think most everyone you know, a 116 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 1: little a little more on that. You don't just gloss 117 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: over stay okay, Um, well, I think most every sort 118 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: of like you know, light um entertainment is yeah, on 119 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: some level, kind of like a distraction from them. You know, 120 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: we're all on this earth and eventually we won't be anymore. 121 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: Podcast is it finally happening, Let's do it. You gotta 122 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, spend you know, you gotta use your time 123 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: up kind of like getting distracted from that. Yeah, Well, 124 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: I think a cornerstone of depression is dealing with the 125 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: fact that we're all gonna die. At cornerstone of mental 126 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: illness is that despair and anything that can take your 127 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: mind off of it is valuable. I think it could be. Okay, 128 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: thing like being aware of that. That means you're gonna 129 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: make sure to enjoy the time that you have. And 130 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: and for me, that's like watching and covering sports, diving 131 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: deep and that I'm not just I'm not disagreeing with 132 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: you per se, but if that's the reason I watched sports, 133 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: it is buried way, way way in the back of myself. 134 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: That's that. That means it's working. One thing, yeah, maybe 135 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: one thing with having young children too. When you have 136 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: a five year old or a four year older than 137 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: that range, when they start asking, they start to understand 138 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: the notion of death. They start asking some questions that 139 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: are difficult to answer. So floating around hands this manner 140 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: for about a month or two. Now deal with that 141 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: on top of it. Yeah, questions, oh am I gonna die? 142 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: My five year old asking are you want to get old? 143 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't want you to get old. I'm never gonna 144 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: get old. You're not gonna die. This stuff like that, most, well, 145 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: how do you handle this? Most of Walker's biggest fears 146 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: there are about that. We were just talking about it 147 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: because I mentioned, you know, we're gonna talk about Willie Davis, 148 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: the packers grade who passed away, and um, they asked 149 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: me about that because I was looking up some stuff 150 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: in a book and he happened to pass away in 151 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: Santa Monica, and they were just like, well, where does 152 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,559 Speaker 1: he go after the hospital? I was like, well, either 153 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: go you know, in the ground, or you know, they 154 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: burn them up and put him in a can. You know, 155 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: just not the way I expected to get into this 156 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: news brief. But I just said, they got to heaven, 157 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: but you could, you could give them the literal breakdown 158 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: of what happens. Well, we go buy cemented that it's 159 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: come up before because we got they go swimming near 160 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: a cemetery. They asked what that is. I tell him, yes, 161 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: that is something toward to a little Toddler corpse talk 162 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: maybe putting Greg in on it speech. And I didn't 163 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: really say that that part of it I was making up. 164 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: We might talk about spreading ashes somewhere, you know, over 165 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: the ocean, but I don't know about a can. And son. 166 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: Make sure you use a good crematorium. You don't want chunky, 167 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: you want nice. I didn't. I didn't really, all right, Yes, 168 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: let's do some news. I like to spice it up 169 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: here at Casa del Slayer. Today is heroind Villains Day. 170 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: All right, About thirty five minutes wore the show was 171 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: scheduled to start, I said, Erica, did we have a 172 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: news drop yet? You said nothing yet, you know, waited 173 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: one to three beats, and then I was like, okay, 174 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: here it comes. Maybe we'll use something from my new 175 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: viral video that I put out. Okay, well, you know 176 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: it's important because it's it's the first time in at 177 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: least like four or five days that Eric has repeatedly 178 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: asked us to retweet something. So it's like four to 179 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: five days the second time you've exaggerated, you said, smashed 180 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: the retweet. Ricky, tell us about that video because it's 181 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: getting some love, it's getting some pop on social. Yeah, 182 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: it's doing pretty well. We just did a quarantine, uh, 183 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, Uniform revealed we have all the Browns released. 184 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: There's today. We actually had this video done last week, 185 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: but we wanted to release it when the brown sits 186 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: so it kind of you know, matched the peak that's 187 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: social for you, Greg and Um, you know, it's just 188 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: funny that they do these dumb hip hop videos like 189 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: revealing the uniform, So we're like, why don't we do 190 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: what our quarantine uniform looks like? Mark, do you have 191 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: a problem with Ricky using the back of your favorite 192 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: team's uniform reveal to launch a viral content, then maybe 193 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: steal the spotlight a little bit from your Browns, not overtly, 194 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: because if I suggest any sort of anti Ricky narrative 195 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: attached to this, what will happen is on our our 196 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: Instagram page. My image won't appear for the next two 197 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: or three months. Um, it'll be all Dan and Greg 198 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: and it'll probably take place on Twitter and other platforms. 199 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: So very much, very much any he's done. And if 200 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: if Ricky can overtake our Instagram page with images of 201 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: none of us but all for friends, why not go 202 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: for it? Well, Lakisha, Colleen, James Slater, they're friends of 203 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: the show, so they are videography. Yeah, West did West 204 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: did some great you know camera work all right, good 205 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: Stu And every every once in a while you could 206 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: tell there's gonna be a little assessler edge to the show, 207 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: and I think we got the edge today looking forward 208 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: to it barely. I'm barely spoken in the show so far. 209 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: All Right. I mentioned I mentioned that we talk a 210 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: little bit more about, you know, what's going on with 211 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: sports going forward? Will we have any type of sporting 212 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: calendar in two thousand twenty. As COVID nineteen turns everything 213 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: in the world upside down, it's time for our first 214 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: appearance from Dr Anthony Faucci. We love this guy, Tony Faucci. 215 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: It's the guy UM that Colleen has fallen force. She 216 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: said it as much on last last week's show. He's 217 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Effectious 218 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: Diseases UH, and he's a member of Trump's White House 219 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: Corona Task Force. And he's a guy that a lot 220 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: of people UM are trusting in this time to give 221 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: us UM smart, sensible, UM medically based and based on 222 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: science UH input on what's going on with this terrible 223 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen and the coronavirus. He also is debunking the 224 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: myth that five G lower's immunity UH to coronavirus, which 225 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: is all good stuff. We need somebody out there to say, 226 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: you know, your cell phone bars aren't gonna give you 227 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: a coronavirus. Fauci just an example of why he is 228 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: such a stud in this situation, right Mark, I think 229 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: he's doing a great job, and he's doing it with 230 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: um people around him that might not be direct allies. 231 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: So it's there's a there's an element of bravery to 232 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: saying what's on his mind, how he feels. Yes, Faucci 233 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: was on Good Luck America. I don't know what that is, 234 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: but a man by the name of Peter Hamby interviewed 235 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: Faucci and he was He asked Faucci when we might 236 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: expect to see sports again, baseball, football, everything else. Here's 237 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: a Faucci had to say, here's a way of doing that. 238 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: Nobody comes to the stadium. Put them in big hotels, 239 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, wherever you want to play, keep them very 240 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: well surveilled and namely a surveillance, but have them tested 241 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: like every week, and make sure they don't wind up 242 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: infecting each other or their family, and just let them 243 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: play the season. And Ricky, did you put that music 244 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: under there? And that was from that from the show? 245 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, again, it seems far off. But since 246 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: we have no way of knowing how long this is 247 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,119 Speaker 1: gonna linger. And and when it comes to a vaccine 248 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: or this idea, when we know that everybody is safe, 249 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: it feels like the NFL will be affected and perhaps seriously, 250 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: you know, by the time August and September rolls around. 251 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: I feel like, since I was a child, every sports publication, 252 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, every few years, you would see predictions for 253 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: the future, and one of the predictions was always like, 254 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: at some point before you die, sports will transition fully 255 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: to television or internet, and there will be nobody in 256 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: the stadiums. And it always seemed joyless and sterile to me. 257 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: And it's not something I really have interested. M hmm, 258 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: it would you wouldn't be wed. I kind of see 259 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: what you're saying. I'm with us a little bit on that. 260 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: I aesthetically, I understand where you're coming from. Absolutely. But 261 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: let's say you have the option of having a half 262 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: of red season, but it's without fans. Are you gonna 263 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: watch it? You're gonna want? No? I've checked out for 264 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: seasons a time before, even with fans. I'd rather read 265 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: a book or or study the history of baseball. I 266 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: I I just that's not for me, And it's easy 267 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: to say that now maybe if we maybe, if it 268 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: goes on for a long time and I'm I pine 269 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: for it, may maybe, but it's just not something that 270 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: interests me. Well, I'll say this was since it's so unprecedented. 271 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you're you're saying that now is totally 272 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: fair because you can only say how you feel in 273 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: the moment. If the game started, and let's say the 274 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: Reds are twenty games over five and the product was 275 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: the same for the most part, it's guys playing at 276 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: the top level of the sport against each other and 277 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: and you kind of get used to the lack of noise. 278 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: I know that will take a while for all of 279 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: us if it happened, But I feel like I would 280 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: be able to get into it if if the if 281 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: the product on the field was still good and that 282 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: didn't feel like it was compromised. That to me is 283 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: the biggest thing that's that's a fair retort. I think, 284 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, if the Reds were twenty games over five hundred, 285 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: I'd probably check to see if hell froze over before 286 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: anything happened. But yeah, I might get swept up whatever 287 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: fever that cause oh man, this is weird. It's crazy. 288 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy I mentioned earlier was actually the 289 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: the Santa Clara um what is it, the chief executive 290 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: for Santa Clara County who thought it would be a 291 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: major miracle for the NFL season to start on time. Now, 292 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure there's certain people within the NFL 293 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: that feel I feel differently and there, and the governor 294 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: is going to have his Sayana, as you mentioned, But 295 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: these are not, you know, events that are just taking 296 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: place in a vacuum. People are traveling for these events. 297 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: Who knows what the travel restrictions are going to be 298 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: in terms of like traveling across states. Who knows at 299 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: that point, Like I kind of figured when this all started, okay, well, 300 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: well we have enough time before the NFL season. But 301 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty safe to say that whatever world 302 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: we're returning to is gonna be different for a while, 303 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: maybe until there's you know, a vaccine. Yeah, I'm with you, Greg, 304 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: I think it right now. It's a wish. It's a 305 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: nice wish. We would wish that the NFL season would 306 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: start on time. And you can continue to beat the 307 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: drum of we're gonna aim for sixteen games. We're gonna 308 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: aim for UM all of this and maybe UM fan 309 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: free venues. Uh, I'm fine with I would I would 310 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: say this if if the brown season started today, UM, 311 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: I would check in because why wouldn't I wote what 312 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: better do I have to do during big chunks of 313 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: this UM and beyond it even being our our employment. 314 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: But it would matter what's happening around sports. I I 315 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: personally just personally would struggle to fall into um, you know, 316 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: pockets of distraction and delight around a stadium free football 317 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: game if the rest of the country is still totally 318 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: melting down. I mean I could for a bit, but 319 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: it's it's a limited distraction. Let me pose the question 320 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: to you one more time now, Mark a week later. 321 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: You could be part of the team that finds the 322 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: vaccine and puts an end to all this in decision 323 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: and madness and craziness. Or you could be an all 324 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: time great coach for the Browns, bringing multiple titles to 325 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: believe land. Your choice, well, I mean we've just discussed 326 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: um Fauci and his uh you know, Henchman positive Henchman. 327 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: I think they've got it. You just gave me my 328 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: fantasy baseball team name. If a season happens, I don't 329 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: know what they need for me at this point. I 330 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: still see a Browns team that needs all those changes. 331 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: So again, Be it's a great band name that is awesome, 332 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: positive Henchman, All right, let's move on. So Be you're 333 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: sticking with Okay, But by the way, no judgment there. 334 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: I just wanted to see after that conversation if that 335 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: changed anything. Nothing. No, not at all. I'm very I'm 336 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: very strong in my opinion on that one. Alright. Some 337 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: sad news, Uh. In the NFL, longtime Packers defensive end 338 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,239 Speaker 1: Willie Davis, he's passed away at the age of eighty five. Uh. 339 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in nineteen 340 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: eight one. First two years were spent in Cleveland with 341 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: the Browns, but then he got traded to Vince Lombardi's 342 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: Packers in nineteen sixty spent the decade there. Um a 343 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: big time pass rusher. Saxton had become a stat which 344 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: blows my mind. But sacks were not an official stat 345 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL until nineteen eighty two. So all these 346 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: greats um coming off the edge in the old days, 347 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: you don't it's difficult to measure what they were if 348 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: you didn't see them, but he was a big time 349 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: pass rusher. He led the Packers the five league titles, 350 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: including the backsback Super Bowls to start the Super Bowl era. 351 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: A Grambling Um alum and also a member of the 352 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: Black College Football Hall of Fame. So um, very sad news. 353 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: Willie Davis staid, at the age of eighty five, West 354 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: in your studies of the game, do you have any 355 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: good Willie Davis anecdotes. There was a time when Mark 356 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: and I were growing up and you would hear about 357 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: the Packers defenses from the sixties dynasty with Vince Lombardi, 358 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: and the only name you would hear was Ray Nitchkey, 359 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: the middle linebacker who was sort of a Dick Buckus 360 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: like own rattling menace in the middle of the defense. 361 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: And then you read further and Willie Davis and Henry 362 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: Jordan on the defensive line, Dave Robbinson a linebacker, her Baddeley, 363 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: and Willie Wood in the secondary. This was a defense 364 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: that was as star studded is just about any you 365 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: would ever see. And Willie Davis was a five time 366 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: All Pro, maybe even the best player on that defense, 367 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: he would easily have the Packers all time sack record 368 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: UM over a hundred. John Turney, who is a football 369 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: researcher who goes back and watches games uh from the 370 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: fifties and sixties, has he said that Willie Davis has 371 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: somewhere between a hundred and hundred and twenty career sacks, 372 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: and Davis has said Paul Horning reminded him one year 373 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: that he had twenty five in a season, So you're 374 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: talking about one of the better sax seasons of all time. 375 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: This guy was legit studs as if um Michael Strahan's 376 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: sack record could be anymore legitimate and what a joke? 377 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: And he uh he started his career as a Cleveland 378 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: round I can just imagine the nineteen sixties version of 379 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: Mark sessler Um who knew of Willie Davis as an 380 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: offensive lineman for one year on the Browns, who was 381 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: then traded to become maybe the best defensive end in 382 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: the NFL. Uh. He was the captain of the Packers, 383 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean of all of all these great like he 384 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: was the first black captain, a black guy being captain 385 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: in Green Bay in the in the sixties, the leader 386 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: of that team he played for Eddie Robinson, Paul Brown, 387 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: and Vince Lombardi. I mean that's like the Mount I 388 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: would say on the Mount rushmore of of football coaches 389 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: from that era. It's good point and it it raises 390 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: the question. And I know this would probably um be 391 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: far too in the weeds and take too much time, 392 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: but what if you had a committee that went back 393 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: and their job you hide him away. I mean it's 394 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: almost like a c I A project. You hide them 395 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 1: away for two or three years. They watch every NFL 396 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: game ever and they bring us up to date on 397 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: some of these uh sack totals and like what stunning 398 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: would results would have um from that era that that 399 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: are completely lost in careers and achievements completely lost because 400 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: we weren't tabulating certain numbers back then. It's a great idea. 401 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: The only problem is, I imagine there are various telecast 402 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: dark spots, right Yeah. I don't think like, um, you know, 403 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: full fledged all twenty two from like seven angles happening 404 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: back then, but even one angle, I don't know. I 405 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: would imagine that's probable. I've looked up quite a bit 406 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: of this stuff, like Tourney has Deacon Jones with a 407 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: couple of seasons twenty six and twenty eight sacks. There's 408 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: a guy who played for the Bengals in seventy seventy 409 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: seven named Coy Bacon who some some studies show him 410 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: with like thirty sacks in a season, and then other 411 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: ones to have him at like twenty two. So there's 412 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: no like agreed upon total. Also, before we move on, 413 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: his nickname was doctor. And uh, they asked, you know, 414 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: why was his nickname doctor? He said he was called 415 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: that as a as a child by all the women 416 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: because he made him feel so good. Yeah, that's honestly 417 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: the best thing of art. I'm so happy you brought 418 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: that up, because that's something I want to say be 419 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: heard about myself. If my eulogy was delivered, Good job 420 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: Greg putting a button on and not the only sad 421 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: loss uh in the NFL fraternity. Um. I missed this 422 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 1: earlier this week, but I wanted to make sure to 423 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: touch on it. Former Vikings and Seahawks quarterback Tavaris Jackson 424 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: died on Sunday night in a car crash. He was 425 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: just thirty six years old. Ten year NFL career began 426 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: with the Vikings, drafted in the second round of the 427 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: two thousand six draft. Started twenty one games, uh including 428 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: a playoff game for the Vikings, but it was typically 429 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: a backup with them. He bounced around a little bit 430 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: before leaving the league. He had been doing some staying 431 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: in football, not at the pro level, but as a 432 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: coach in recent years. Tavaris Jackson dead at the age 433 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: of thirty six, and that is terrible. I would give 434 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: you a little nugget UM related to this show and 435 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: Tamaris Jackson that, uh, you know, when we when we started, 436 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: before the podcast, we were Around the League, a blogging 437 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: site that kind of launched inside NFL dot com, and 438 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: suddenly Dan and I were the initial people to to 439 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: write for that, and UM had general managers and agents 440 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: and players suddenly startled and annoyed at us UM for 441 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: some of the articles coming out from that time, and 442 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: the first ever Around the League post was based on 443 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: Tavaris Jackson. UM. I don't think it's appropriate for me 444 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: to discuss what the what the angle of the story was, 445 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: but he was the subject and uh so a little 446 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: bit of UM podcast history attached to him. Back up 447 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson on the Seahawks team was he really wow. 448 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: He was the number two, yeah, because he started um 449 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: most of the season. I think it was the year 450 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: before Russell was was drafted, had about a five season, 451 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: had a winning season with with Brad Childress and Daryl 452 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: Bevil and Troy Williamson and Adrian Peterson back before that 453 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: as a starter too. I have a Tavaris Jackson memory 454 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: back in two thousand six h the Jets and Vikings 455 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: were on the schedule against each other. It was early December, 456 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: and my friend Greg from back in New York is 457 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: a huge Vikings fan, so we said, you know, let's 458 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: do it. Let's fly to Minneapolis, and it was both 459 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: teams were in playoff contention, so we it just worked 460 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: out that way. Luckily we had bought the tickets barn advance. 461 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: So it's a week fifteen game, essentially a playing game 462 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: for both teams, and the Jets jump out to a 463 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: big lead. It's twenty to seven, and Brad Johnson is 464 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: the Vikings quarterback and he's not playing well and the 465 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: crowd's cheering and they want Tavrs Jackson, who was the 466 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: kid that had the big preseason. They bring him in 467 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: in the third quarter. It was essentially his NFL debut, 468 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: uh in meaningful football, and he led them to a 469 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: touchdown drive and kind of put him back in the game. 470 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: The Jets still won the game, And then afterwards, me 471 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: and my buddy were walking outside the Metrodome and there 472 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: was a card in comic shop across the street from 473 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: the stadium. And who's in there signing autographs. It's Tavars 474 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: Jackson and he's in there and everyone the whole the 475 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: whole place is packed with a huge line Vikings are great. 476 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: That's a great fan base of waiting. And he's sitting 477 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: next to his girlfriend at the time, and I don't 478 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: know if it was his a future wife. I have 479 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: no idea. I know he's married with three kids. Um, 480 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: but I remember thinking at the time, Wow, this like 481 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: we're here for this guy's moment, because at that time 482 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: it was very clear that Brad Johnson was gonna lose 483 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: his job, and Jackson did take over as a starter 484 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: the next week, And uh, I'd made me think of 485 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: that immediately because I remember seeing like he clearly, even 486 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: though they had lost the game, that he had gotten 487 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: his chance, and he just seemed to be in good spirit. 488 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: So it was uh, you know, very sad uh to 489 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: loose to ours jacks in this young total bummer? All right, Uh, 490 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: moving on, Mark, You've been waiting for this. The Browns 491 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: revealed their newest jerseys and it is a one of 492 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: those throwback to the future deals and they have adopted 493 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: essentially And correct me if I'm wrong here, Mark, what 494 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: is there more traditional look the one that you grew 495 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: up on in the eighties. Um, maybe some minor differences helmet, 496 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: uh help, face mask, color aside. This is the Brown's 497 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: uniform you've been waiting for, right. I think the it'd 498 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: be safe to say that ninety eight percent of Brown's 499 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: fans um of a certain age. We're hoping this is 500 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: the direction they'd go in. They certainly hinted at this. 501 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: I think they to maybe prevent pre uh you know, 502 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: reveal outrage. They made it clear I think, for dating 503 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: back to a year plus, that the uniforms would return 504 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: to traditional, a traditional look. I love them, I think 505 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: because I love them because they just remind me of 506 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: uniforms they should not have veered away from to begin with. 507 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: Some of the more notable changes, because if you go 508 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: back to some people are saying, you know, it's just 509 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: the uniforms all over again. Well, the orange and brown 510 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: sock stripes are new. Uh. They did keep the Matt 511 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: helmet finished from the more recent UM Debacle version, which 512 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: I like. I think that was one of the only 513 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: things I liked about those. It harks back to classic 514 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: Browns uniforms and you know, depending on where you sit aesthetically, 515 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: I would say these are some of the better uniforms 516 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I'm being objective about that. They're simple, 517 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: they're sparse, and in a time when and it's not 518 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: just Nike, but I think we're seeing uniforms going these 519 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: new fangled directions that are getting tagged as a f 520 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: L looks or certain college looks. This is old um, 521 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: this is old school, this is Cleveland. And I think 522 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: the response has been UM extremely positive. And I give 523 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: the team credit in an era where this has been 524 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: a problem for them. Um, they listened to the fans. 525 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: They didn't get too cute or too creative or too 526 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: off bent here, and they nailed it. I think I 527 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: would consider it a home run UM at a time 528 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: when the Browns needed something and get you know, it's 529 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: it's similar to the Bucks when the Bucks are a 530 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: bad football team, but their uniforms make your eyes bleed. 531 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: You're doubling down on the pain. The Browns have removed 532 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: at least the uniform aspect of this. The next part 533 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: is to bring some of the traditional winning back versus 534 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: five and six win um disaster dramas. This quote from 535 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: executive vice president and co owner J. W. Johns, I 536 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: didn't know. I thought the Hanselms were the only owners, 537 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: but this come of seven minority stakeh As you look 538 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: at iconic franchises like the Browns, the Bears, the Packers, 539 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys, they're true, true to who they are. 540 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: They're not doing a lot of changes and trying to 541 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: make a lot of flashy moves with their uniforms. Well, yeah, 542 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: they should have never changed them in the first place. 543 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: They should I understand there's always that that move you 544 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: want to kind of freshen things up. But when you're 545 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, when we've talked about the hundred times mark, 546 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: there's only so many directions you can go in the 547 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: first place. So going with the more historic meat and 548 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: potatoes version always made the most sense for the brown 549 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: So you understand why they gave into temptation because it 550 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: seems like a really fun thing to have all these 551 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: different reveals, and the teams go nuts on social and 552 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: with big events. I remember the Browns event five years 553 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: ago when the guy got stuck underneath the uh, the 554 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: overcoat when he's trying to pull it off, and it 555 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: had all the flashing lights everywhere. It was like a 556 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: club scene. This is what it should always been. So 557 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: they're they're admitting a mistake. The Browns, they do that 558 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: from time to time, make mistakes, and it's good that they're, 559 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, getting where they should be. Right. Yeah, I 560 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: wonder what the what the other people in the room 561 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: to think. I mean, I I'm pleased. What do you guys, 562 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: how do you feel? Uniforms are a touchstone um for 563 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: classic franchises, especially when times are bad. They make you, 564 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: like you said, harken back to the times when they 565 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: were good, and I would even you talked about the 566 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: NFL teams the Packers, uh, the Cowboys and Steelers. I 567 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: think the Raiders are one of those teams with a 568 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: classic uniform that stand the test of time, and you 569 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: could uh to me. I think first of the New 570 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: York Yankees dance team, like the pinstripes and you think 571 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: of the history and and there's something there to grab 572 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: onto as a fan. It just stands the test of time. 573 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: To me, it's sort of like this is how sports 574 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: should be. You don't want your organization changing for change 575 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: stake all the time. And I think the best organizations 576 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: keep things classic. No, they look great, although the to 577 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: be fair, the color rush ones they kept also look 578 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: great and those are newer. Um, it feels like a 579 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: home run. Congratulations, Mark, I know this was very important 580 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: to you. Well, it's like if they got it wrong 581 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: and there's no there's nothing else happening, there's no other 582 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: news happening. This becomes the centerpiece for four or five 583 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: weeks and then frankly four or five years. So are 584 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: you gonna are you going to enjoy it? I mean, 585 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: what are you doing to celebrate? How high? Like? How 586 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: long will this high last for you? I mean, I'm 587 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: opening up all the doors and windows in my house 588 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: and uh, I'm just have my car running in the 589 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: driveway with no one in it. What the little things 590 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: I can do in the current environment to show that 591 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm pleased. If they rolled out ugly uniforms, would you 592 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: have backed that car into the garage and then closed it. 593 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: And I would have simply walked right into the hot 594 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: stone of COVID and just said take me away. Where 595 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: where is that located? I find it all right? Uh 596 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: And speaking of the Browns, some news floating around there, 597 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: Jay Glazer, uh me and him have feuded. He's not 598 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: aware of it about mail bag stuff in the past. 599 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: But he's also pretty gifted uh NFL insider in the 600 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: sense that when Glazer says a scoop, when he talks 601 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: about scoopage, you take it seriously because he's one of 602 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: the most plugged in guys. And on Tuesday night, uh 603 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: he teased his Wednesday night radio show, which is coming 604 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: up in a few hours Fox Football Now, promising quote 605 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: big national news. I'm not kidding around, so we don't know. 606 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: We'll find out by the time you listen to this, 607 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: you might know what it is, but we don't know 608 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: what it is. And as that scoopage has been hanging 609 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,239 Speaker 1: in the air w f a N which comes up 610 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: a lot on the show, especially recently. The New York 611 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: sports radio station Mark Melusis, who works for that station, 612 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: tweeted that the Browns and Vikings were in trade talks 613 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: for star wide receiver Odell Beckham. Here is the tweet 614 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: from Melussis, who is not a plugged in NFL media guy. 615 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: You should understand this as I before I even read 616 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: this that this is not scoopid you should take seriously. 617 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: But sometimes these things do come to pass. Here we 618 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: go discussions on a trade that would send Beckham to 619 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: the Vikings for a second and fifth round pick next year. 620 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: Trade is not den done, but the deal is being discussed. 621 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: So people are connecting the Glazer big announcement with this. 622 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but it's in the air. 623 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: You guys think this is something that could happen. You 624 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: think the Browns mark would move on from Beckham after 625 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: one year? Well, I mean, I want to hear what 626 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: what Greg has to think about the source of this 627 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: number one. But I would say this that U two 628 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: things before Beckham would ship to the Browns. And I'm 629 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: someone that when I get um caught up on a 630 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: Browns like rumor, I will go deep Twitter and I'll 631 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: read anything that anyone puts out there. And there's a 632 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: lot of on the Dark Weapon. I mean, I I 633 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: just I just I want to just see what's out there, 634 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: And there was a lot of chatter about Beckham on 635 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: a low level plane that no one would take seriously 636 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: before it happened. So I just think that in general, 637 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: um stuff gets out there. I don't I would say 638 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: this was um. This seemed to come more from the 639 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: Vikings according to this report. My two things is, why 640 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: why move someone who at this point, unless you're gonna 641 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: go draft wide receiver is critical to your offense. Number two, 642 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: I don't think his salary is extremely prohibitive and get 643 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: more value than that if you're gonna trade O'Dell Beckham, 644 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: who have billionaire You've just released new jerseys. How many 645 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: people right now are buying Beckham jerseys? Okay, I just 646 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: watched a documentary with Kevin Stefanski, whose son is obsessed 647 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: with Odell Beckham. I'm not that has no factor in this, 648 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: But if you're gonna move on from him, I need 649 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: a good explanation of why that's happening, and the value 650 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: better blow people away where the lingering criticism around that 651 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: would fade quickly. Well, you're not going to get the 652 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: value that that the the Giants got if they traded Beckham. 653 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: You're not going to get that package is if the 654 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: explanation mark is that he's a pain in the ass 655 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: and he's always hurt. I mean, I mean pain and 656 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: nass feels to me because he honestly, Yeah, there are 657 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: a few little things with him. Um in a with 658 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: a team that was very dysfunctional last year, Like, is 659 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: he that big of a pain in the ass? I mean, 660 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: is that something that the Giants anymore? Well? But I 661 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: think the media like is going to cling to that 662 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: no matter what. I just don't see that he if 663 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: you go look at the good things that Odell Beckham 664 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: has done in Cleveland, and I'm talking about charity wise 665 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: and for his teammates and other stuff. Um, I just 666 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: don't buy into the we've got to move on from 667 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: this problem character on any level. I just think they 668 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: have unfinished business. Like, as somebody who believes in his 669 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: talent and Baker Mayfield's talent, it would be very disappointing 670 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: to me if the Brown's just cut the cord without 671 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: um us seeing like a full healthy Odell Beckham season 672 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: and an offensive line that can block for Baker Mayfield. 673 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: And I don't want to plug Jake Laser Show anymore. 674 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: Because you know, we've already brought him up four times 675 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: in the last five minutes. But uh, he did a 676 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: TV show first of all, not a radio show. So 677 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: that's fine. We can get little misinformation is not a 678 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: bad thing the new Here's what Lazer tweeted. The news 679 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: I have is not transactional news, not a player getting 680 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: traded or signed. H So you know it's probably not 681 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: Beckham related. So everybody calmed down a little bit. There 682 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: is a reason why no other you know, people that 683 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: cover the NFL is reporting this because to Mark's point, 684 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: I think maybe things have been floating around like on 685 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: the dark web, and maybe you know, someone like Melusas 686 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: who doesn't have as much experience, is gonna put that 687 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: out there. That that said, it doesn't seem that crazy 688 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: to me that Beckham would be a guy that gets 689 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: traded on draft Day, especially if the Browns are sitting 690 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: at that ten spot and they have the receiver that 691 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: they love, and if they got a package for Beckham, 692 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 1: then then it makes a little bit of Bob mcgainn, 693 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: who we all respect in this the in the draft realm, 694 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: and he's writing for The Athletic Now. I think he 695 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: said that they're the people that he's talking to. They 696 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: were like fifteen wide receivers who can legit play coming 697 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: into this draft class. So if you wanted to get 698 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: get out from under our contract and bring in somebody 699 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: on the rookie scale that you really believe, only two 700 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: or three that you could conceivably believe, you know, would 701 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: replace Odell Beckham. But but there are those guys where 702 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: his most drafts, you you would not have that or zero. 703 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: But but at least you might have a front office 704 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: believing that that those top guys could do something like that. Alright, 705 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. Before we sign off, 706 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: I thought it would be good to check in with somebody, 707 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: somebody that, uh, we haven't heard from for a while, 708 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: someone who's been very busy within the walls of our company, 709 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: virtual walls as they are now, somebody who's got takes, 710 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: somebody who just turned to year older and uh, and 711 00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 1: there he is coming to you right now, Dave. Really, 712 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: let's tell everybody. Are you doing right? It's nice to 713 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: see you and talk to people. Senior editor NFL Media. 714 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: Is that accurate title? Yes, that's accurate. How about you? 715 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: I mean, you really when you when you bring in 716 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: a surprise guest. You really hit us with the star 717 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: power here Dan, listen. I think there's a lot to 718 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: episode of the Bunker one, So I mean, I'm sure 719 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't Top one. Do you have Do you have 720 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: like earphones or anything? David? Are you just you just 721 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: speaking into your computer microphone to the company issued computer microphone. 722 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: It's crisp. Audio is good. First of all, I want 723 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: to thank you, Dave for working so hard keeping the 724 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: desk moving for NFL dot com. I just want to 725 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: touch on a couple of things quickly with you before 726 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: we say goodbye Number one, even a little more quickly 727 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: because of this audio thing. Let's be honest. Yeah, that's 728 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: that's just Greg. You just gotta Dave, what is going 729 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: on with you right now? You're just celebrated a birthday. 730 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: What was it like to celebrate a birthday in deep quarantine? 731 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: It was interesting? Um three last week I did a 732 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 1: bunch of zooms with some friends, UM share um popped 733 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: the solo bottle of champagne. That was fun. Oh not again? Yeah, 734 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: And you know, just listeners might remember that Dave had 735 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: a bottle of champagne all queued up to pop in 736 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: a hot tub when the Panthers were in the Super Bowl. Uh, 737 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: he worked the desk that night. Cam Newton didn't fall 738 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: on the fumble, the Broncos win, and Dave then went 739 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: back to his house alone and and drank the champagne 740 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: in a state of depression a month later, because I 741 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: also saved it for a potential usc national championship. And 742 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: that's when they lost in Gilanova in the last second 743 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: the three ball. Yeah, so a little bit of a 744 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: curse champagne, but this one went down a little easier. Okay. 745 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: Speaking of Cam Newton topic number two. Uh, and you 746 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: can follow Dave really on Twitter at David Underscore really 747 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: really good stuff, and also on Instagram at David No 748 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: Underscore really just d A V I D E l Y. 749 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot going on on that Instagram account lately. 750 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: I recommend plugging in. There you go, there's your little 751 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: plug that you asked for, Dave um and then the Panthers. 752 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: Speaking Cam Newton, you, how about the idea that you 753 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 1: you kicked the hero out of town for the guy 754 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 1: that averages six air yards per attempt teddy Bridgel. I mean, 755 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: it's it's it is what it is the new era 756 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: they're rebuilding. I hope to see Cam Newton land on 757 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: his feet with a good team somewhere. Uh. But if 758 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: you landed on your patriots, Greg and Erica, I think 759 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: that would be that'd be fun to see. But it 760 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 1: was sad. Um My mom for some reason, she sent 761 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: me like a care package and she included the observer 762 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: from the day that Cam Newton was released for some reason. 763 00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:03,479 Speaker 1: And she's not on your interesting a birthday present. So really, 764 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: you named your dog Cam kind of like Mark named 765 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: his kid coult. Are you you know with a dog 766 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: you could change the name in theory? Right? What about 767 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 1: down Arrow six point zero? We're uh, we're rebranding Teddy 768 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: Bridgewater Dan. It's eighteen air feet per attempt. Oh my god, 769 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 1: you guys are rough. There is that's a cute though. 770 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: He's a good boy. He's a good boy. And then 771 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: she she interesting and I just want to touch on 772 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: that you have the dog, and that's good to have 773 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 1: companionship during this situation. Um, so you have the roommates, Eily, No, 774 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: I guess not. If you were eating, drinking along the dog. 775 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 1: We talked a lot. I once, Um, I took a 776 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: log of everything she did one day because I was 777 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: really curious about her sleeping habits. That's like entertainment quarantine. 778 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: Do you ever go online and take gay log of 779 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 1: everything your ex girlfriend does in today? No? I have 780 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 1: not yet. That's I think that's more for like if 781 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: it's post June one, because I think for a lot 782 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: of people during this time, you might check in on 783 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: what's going on in social with certain the right time 784 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: for that yet all maybe in the future. I don't know, 785 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: it's been like it's been ten years. I think that'd 786 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: be a little weird. Really, what um like? I I 787 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: would imagine the story is grim for this app. But 788 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: what is happening on Tinder in the middle of all this? 789 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I wouldn't know about some other dating 790 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: app just about there's other apps. What's your preferred app 791 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: right now? You could say Bumble Bumble? Oh yeah good? 792 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: But what's happening today? Is Bumble nice right now? Or 793 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: is it sort of a is it like an airport? 794 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's mixed back. It's a lot of sexting. 795 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you do what you can. You know, if 796 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: you connect with somebody on Bumble and maybe you have 797 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: anyone knows that you connected to stuffing on bumble and 798 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: really hit it off. Would you risk at all with 799 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: a meeting. I would not risk my health in the 800 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: quarantine times, and no should anyone should any of your 801 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: viewers out there. Very good, very good. You keep closing doors. 802 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: I don't know why you're closing any doors at this 803 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: point anything. I mean, I'm not anymore touche Again speaking 804 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: with Dave Ellis, Senior editor nfl UH Dave again, you've 805 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: been doing great work leading the team during this crisis. 806 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you very much. And I would say 807 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 1: I would say that if you did want to reach 808 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: out just to see if certain people for your pastor okay, 809 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: you can do that. And I don't think it's even weird. 810 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a breach of any protocol. I 811 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate it all right. And and Dave, the people 812 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: that say you're working like a nine month pregnant Lakisha 813 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: a little too hard, I defend you against those criticisms, 814 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: but I think I think their basis. I really appreciate that. 815 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: Who are those people? Greg? People talking? And one final 816 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: note at the headphones of the new European headphone to 817 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: the microphone. Whenever you do is something like this, So 818 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 1: what second, don't worry about it. Dave really follow him 819 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: on Twitter, Instagram. We love you, buddy. Just wanted to 820 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: check in. Uh, you're looking good, you're looking healthy. So 821 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: we're happy to We're happy to see and hear it. Thanks, 822 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks, there you go a great Dave. Really, 823 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: I just thought it'd be nice to check in and Greg. 824 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: I saw you arched eyebrow, but um, you talked about 825 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: how you on our most recent show. You'd like to 826 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: go back to the office and get back in the middle. 827 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: That's somebody we haven't seen for a long time. The 828 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: arch was completely at the audio quality. I mean, you 829 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: can't come on. You cannot come on, just like driving 830 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: a car into yea, the garage or something. It was terri. 831 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: Do you want to put that on Eric a little bit. 832 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: You can do that. It's just a producer. It's a 833 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: little pre production work. Maybe, don't you dare? Don't you dare? 834 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean Eric also has the power just to remove 835 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,240 Speaker 1: Greg from the show whenever she feels like so, yeah, 836 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 1: now is a fine time. I think we're wrapping up 837 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: all right, Um, big show coming up, tomorrow. I'm excited 838 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: about this. When Kyle Brandt of Good Morning Football, UH, 839 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: the NFL Network Family, one of our favorite guys. It's 840 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: his first appearance on the show, and I will do 841 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: a little tease on this, Chris Westling. He has some 842 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: unfinished business or something from the past that obviously was 843 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: something that's stuck with him that he'd like to kind 844 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,280 Speaker 1: of bring to the forefront on tomorrow's show. And that's 845 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 1: what he's gonna do. Nothing bad, nothing negative, but something 846 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: clearly that has stuck with him that he wanted to 847 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: address when he made an appearance on our podcast. So 848 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: that's coming up tomorrow. You're saying this has specifically to 849 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: do with me, you are directly connected to it. Yes, 850 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 1: I am funneled. Yeah, nonplussed even so, nothing negative, but 851 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: something clearly that's he wants to address. It feels like 852 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: maybe something that's been on his conscience or what. I 853 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: don't know, but Kyle reached out to me specifically to 854 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: say he wanted to talk about this on the show, 855 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: and I was only too happy to say, yes, of course, 856 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 1: let's do it. I am for CLEMP but green Light, 857 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 1: let's let's so not another feud. Per se with a 858 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: g MFB character. Definitely not a feud. I think the 859 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: opposite in fact. Uh. And then Friday The Twitter Show 860 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 1: is back, So Thursday will be our final audio show 861 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: the week tomorrow, and then Friday The Twitter Show is back, 862 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: and we have Cam Jordan's Uh the Star Superstar Saints 863 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: Defender will be joining us live on Friday, so make 864 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: sure he checked that out. Oh really is that still? Maybe? 865 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: I don't know it. Yeah, probably probably. Let's just say 866 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 1: it's a go and it's not it's not and he's 867 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: bringing a surprise guest. All right, good, so tune in 868 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: for that. Dan has this signing off four Quiet Star 869 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: and the Mailman, the Old Boss and Rick Hollywood behind 870 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: the door of her apart until Thursday.