1 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Titans Back Podcast, invented by Farm Bureau 2 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: Health Plans. Need great healthcare coverage with an affordable price tag, 3 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Let Farm Bureau Health Plans coach you through it. They've 4 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: been protecting Tennesseeans for seventy five years. I am Amy Wells. 5 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Mac is of course here too, and thank you for 6 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: tuning in to this edition of the Titans Amy and 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: Coach Mac podcast. Let's let's update ourselves a little bit here. 8 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: The Titans are coming off of a win over the 9 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. They are now five and two this season. 10 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: They've won five games in a row. They're also three 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: and oh in the division. Mac, your thoughts, well, three 12 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: and on the division is the big stick there. I mean, 13 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: that's this time of year. You need to start positioning 14 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: yourself getting ready for the tournament somewhere. And if you're 15 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: leading your division right now, you've got a pretty good chance. 16 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: And so that's extremely important. Now, we've fought through a 17 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: lot of injuries. Everybody that follows this podcast knows of 18 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: the number of injuries that the Times have had to 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: some significant people. They've still been able, as you said, 20 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: to string five in a row together. We're coming up 21 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: on a pretty good stretch here now with teams we're 22 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: going to play and we won't be jumping ahead any 23 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: but you start to look at this team this week 24 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: that we're going into play, it's a much different animal 25 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: than that one we just beat down in Houston. Well, 26 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: let's talk about the one we just beating there a 27 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: little bit. Just a brief summary to the biggest storylines 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: in that game, Derrick Henry's historic performance and Malik Willis's 29 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: first start at quarterback. So let's start with Malik a 30 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: little bit. What did you like about his performance on Sunday? Well, 31 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he operated the offense. I mean, 32 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: that's a big stage for a young man like that 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: coming from Liberty. I'm not quite sure that the atmosphere 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: of Liberty versus Old Dominion is exactly like what he's 35 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: experienced down there, you know, or what he's going to 36 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: experience anywhere else in National Football League. So that was 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: a that was a big jump as far as to 38 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: be able to get out there and play. He had 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: a pretty uneven performance. I think that's fair to say that, 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: you know it was, it was very uneven, but he 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: hung in there. He had a couple of things go wrong, 42 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: he didn't let it derail him completely, but he had 43 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: a pretty good security blanket back there behind him that 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: he could turn and hand it too. So I knew 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: that this was going to be an adventure for him. 46 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: It's going to continue to be if he has to play. 47 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: So I think uneven it is pretty fair to say. 48 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: But the jump that he's making now from where he was, 49 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: he's miles ahead of where he was when he showed 50 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 1: up here on campus in May. So he's just got 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: to continue to improve. Is one of the main areas 52 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: that he can make improvement trying to string together a 53 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: game that's more consistent or is there one specific thing 54 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: that he could work well. I mean, it's still getting 55 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: rid of the ball on time, timing with receivers, and 56 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: he's timing with receivers. There were a couple of times 57 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: and you could tell that. You know, the one schemed 58 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: play to Chig that was opening the corner route at 59 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: the tight end corner route, he got so anxious and 60 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: so aunty because the guy was wide open that he 61 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: that he missed him. He didn't follow through, you know, 62 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: he just he hurried his throw. He's gonna have to 63 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: learn to slow his motor down. Even though the clock 64 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: has sped up in the speed of the game, he 65 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: still does not is not in sync with what the 66 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: speed of the game is and syncing that up with 67 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: the speed of how he has to perform. And so 68 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: that will all come in time. But I would say 69 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: one of the bigger things, and I'm sure the coach 70 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: and staff has talked to him about, is just timing 71 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: with the throws. Because the one throw that he threw 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: that was intercepted, he held on to it too long, 73 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: and then when he did let it go, the corner 74 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: had a chance to tailpipe the receiver and getting the 75 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: back end of it, and then the throw was behind him. 76 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: So all of those things have to be cleaned up, 77 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: but it starts with his timing. Let's talk a little 78 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: bit about Derreck Henry, who you so affectionately referred to 79 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: as a security blanket. I really like that he set 80 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: the franchise record for touchdowns passing Eddie George. He had 81 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: seventy five. He had two against Houston to get to 82 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: seventy five. I should say he didn't have seventy five 83 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: in one game. That would be crazy. He also had 84 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,119 Speaker 1: two hundred and nineteen rushing yards in a single game, 85 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: which that is actually kind of crazy. That's a lot 86 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: of rushing yards in a single game. Is that even 87 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: more impressive to you given that going into this game, 88 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: everybody knew that this was going to be a run 89 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: heavy game for the Tennessee Titans. Well, thank you, hit On. 90 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: It's very impressive to me. I mean everybody knew. I 91 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: mean Levey Smith knew, you know, Houston knew, and you 92 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: know they wherever Derek Henry steps off the bus, he's 93 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: going to see eight men in the box. I mean, 94 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: that's just going to happen. And that's what he was 95 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: seeing in this ball game, and he just they just 96 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: kept handing it to him, kept handed it to him. 97 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: Had film variations of some runs. I don't think very 98 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: many gap plays. Most of it was inside outside zone 99 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: from either the dot or from the offset. But Derek 100 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: Henry was just he was just rolling and he wanted it. 101 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: I wanted him to break a long one. I wanted 102 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: to see him break two hundred and ninety yards. You know, 103 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: I thought, as so long as you've gotten here, let's 104 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: go ahead and go over the waterfalls here and just 105 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: take it all. Who liked that. Obviously, he's returning to 106 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one form prefoot injury. Of course, do you 107 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: think that with the momentum that he is starting to 108 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: generate at this point in the season, the sky's really 109 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: the limit for him in terms of production this year. Now, 110 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: it depends on the blocking unit the whole time. I mean, 111 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: that's what it depends on. And it depends on the defense. 112 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: The defense. You know at the Texans, you know they 113 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: finally you know, he made Indianapolis say no Moss at 114 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: the end of that last game we played him, and 115 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: the Texans were probably full of it too. They probably 116 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: had enough of it too at the time. But they're 117 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: going to be some challenges down the road as far 118 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: as defenses are going to stand up and boulder neck 119 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: and dare the tight to run it. So it's hard 120 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: to predict how it will be. But I do know 121 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: this that he wants it every time and he wants 122 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: to try to do it. Let's talk about defense, and 123 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: mainly the Tennessee Titans defense, because they also had a 124 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: remarkable game against the Houston Texans. They were able to 125 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: hold running back Damian Pierce to just thirty five yards 126 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: rushing has run defense really become the calling card of 127 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: this Titans defense, Well, it has to be, because for 128 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: this defense, you know, you can morph that in and 129 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: just slot that into the fact of how well they're 130 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: doing on third down as to how well they're doing 131 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: on first and second down, because they're getting people now 132 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: in third and seven plus the majority of the time, 133 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: which really helps your percentage on third down. But you've 134 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: got to play defense, and you gotta play you gotta 135 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: play defense against the run. The other thing that they've 136 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: done very very well as of late is tackling because 137 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: people are starting to get the ball out quicker on 138 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: them because of the rush. The ball's coming out quicker, 139 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: but they're not allowing a lot of yards after catch, 140 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: which is really big. It was really big against Indie. 141 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: It was big against this group down there. They really 142 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: didn't have much that threatened them until at the end 143 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: of the ball game when they just started throwing atomic 144 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: bombs on them. So to me, I mean, this defense 145 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: has got to be able to be a hanger hat 146 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: on that because we're going to have to be able 147 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: to get people out on third down to give our 148 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: offense more chances. Our offense needs more chances right now 149 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: because they're missing some pieces. What's the key to a 150 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: strong third down defense and what's specifically about the Titans 151 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: make them especially good at it? Well, third and seven 152 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: plus is a big thing. Yardage is a huge thing, 153 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, I mean then, and you've got to be 154 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: varied in what you do. You can't you can't do 155 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: just one thing, and that's you know, there's no way 156 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: you can do that. But the start of it is 157 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: getting people into third and chains where you can just 158 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: sit there and play the chains, allow them to catch 159 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: it underneath and then tackle them. If you're if you're 160 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: constantly in a fifty fifty bind playing third down a 161 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: third and four or less, you've got problems on defense. 162 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: You've got big problems because then you've got to play 163 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: the run. Then you've got to play the past, and 164 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: you're kind of caught in no man's land. Once you 165 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: get the third and seven plus, the guys up front 166 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: can start working their games. They can pin their ears 167 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: back and go, and then in coverage wise, you know 168 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,119 Speaker 1: that if your guys are able to pin their ears 169 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: and go, that the quarterback doesn't have a lot of 170 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: time to hold it. So first and second down is 171 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: the key to good third down in this league. So 172 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: what you're saying the Titans defense is so good because 173 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: they give themselves options as a drive goes on first 174 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: and second down. You gotta win first and second down 175 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: to have any chance to be a good third down defense, 176 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: because you're not going to statistically be a good third 177 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: down defense if people consistently get third and four less. 178 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk about quarterback Davis Mills, because he was sacked 179 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: three times. Bud Dupree was responsible for one of those. 180 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: Big Jeff also got in on the action. And I mean, 181 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: how lucky are the Titans to have a guy like 182 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: Big Jeff who, no matter what, consistently shows up and 183 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: just destroys games. Well, he destroyed either guard that he 184 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: was on. He made a tackle at once with Kenyan 185 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: Green's backside. You know, he never touched the runner. He 186 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: just forklifted Kenyon Green up and into the running back 187 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: put him on the ground. So good. And really he 188 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: wasn't down because he had not been touched by a 189 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: Titan yet. He had been touched by his guards. But 190 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: and so that's not down in the National Football League. 191 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: It's a shame. So they finally went there. They went 192 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: there and touched him down. But look, he's he's playing 193 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: a dominant brand of football right now, and he wasn't 194 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: completely healthy. You know, he didn't practice all last week 195 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: before we went in to play that game, you know, 196 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: because of his lower leg injury. But he is always 197 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: showing up. He's at a different level right now, he 198 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: really is. And you know, if he can get everything 199 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: back together, well, I mean, he's one of those guys 200 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: that when you're offensively putting a game plan together, you 201 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: look and you say, we got to take care of 202 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: him or he's going to wreck our entire unit. The 203 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: third sack came from defensive lineman to Marcus Walker. And 204 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: in case that name doesn't sound super familiar, he was 205 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: an offseason free age and acquisition who with the Texans 206 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: actually before coming to Nashville. Mac what he's he brought 207 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: to the Titans defense, Well, he's a versatile guy. And 208 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: you know what has happened with you know, when we 209 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: lost Harold Landry and then Bud Dupree is out for 210 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: a while, then all of a sudden, you know, Ola 211 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: Daney's out for a while. All of a sudden, you've 212 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: got to start getting guys that can. If you're gonna 213 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: be good defensively in rush with four, you've got to 214 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: be able to roll people. You just can't play with 215 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: four guys all the time because they wear out. They 216 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: wear out during the course of a ball game. So 217 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: what he's allowed, Mike Vrabel, and he's also allowed this 218 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: defense to be able to do, is a guy that 219 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: can fill in. He's got a specific skill set that 220 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: they've found a role for him, and when he goes 221 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: in there, he produces. So Walker is a native of Jacksonville, Florida, 222 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: which is another place that we are pretty familiar with, 223 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: and so I decided to have a little fun with 224 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: him talking about high school football because I mean, why 225 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: not as well. So here's my conversation with Titans defensive 226 00:10:54,840 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: lineman to Marcus Walker the markets. Walker, You're a guy, 227 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: You're from Jacksonville, Duval County, and something that people don't 228 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: talk about enough, in my opinion, is high school football 229 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: in Florida, because it's very different in Florida than it 230 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: is really any place else in the country. What do 231 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: you think it is about football in Florida that makes 232 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: it different. I mean, I feel like every team will 233 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: have just a few kids. That's just unbelieving fast. I mean, 234 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: it's crazy, just the competition and just how it's so 235 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: surreal down there. Sande Wood was was a blessing, UM 236 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: because when I got there, there wasn't that much you know, 237 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: recruiting going on, not much buzz, not much you know, 238 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: florid trafficker of guys getting signed and coaches coming through. 239 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: I can say that to where I was, I was 240 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: a big part of you know, that being started. A 241 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: lot of guys have been signed there since then out 242 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: of twenty thirteen, and having a few guys that made 243 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: it to the college level Maurice Well, Jamara hornsby a 244 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: few other guys that you know. Definitely, you know, UM 245 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,359 Speaker 1: paved a way for me to be able to be successful. 246 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: Send the Wood was good. You know. UM played against 247 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: a few other guys that came to be UM pretty 248 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: good college athletes. I want to play against Derek, but 249 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: he didn't want that. He didn't want that smoke. No, 250 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: not at all. Did you guys ever beat Fletcher High School? No? No, 251 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: not when I was there. Yeah, you have to bring 252 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: that question. I did so. Their former head coach works 253 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: for the Titans now, No way yeah, you can find 254 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: them later I need to. Yeah. Absolutely so, really spending 255 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: time in Florida high school sports then going to Florida State, 256 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: do you feel like that was just a continuation of 257 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: already playing for strong programs. Yes, and then you know 258 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: when you into the flores State locker room, the majority 259 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: of guys played and they stayed a Florida and played 260 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: each other as well. I mean, so it was a 261 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: lot of chemistry, a lot of camaraderie, and a lot 262 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: more just trashed talk on on. So it was a 263 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: blessing just to stay in the state of Florida and 264 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: play for a home state. My mom and dad was 265 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: able to come and visit me, and no regrets at all. 266 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: Your big family man absolutely have to be. Yeah, to 267 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: be a man has to spend time with his family. 268 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: Is not a real man, god father. That's good. I 269 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: like it. As you move on, you go through high school, 270 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 1: you go through college, you get to the NFL, and 271 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: you bump around a little bit. Having had the experience 272 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: of playing for multiple teams, do you think that makes 273 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: you a better athlete? Now? Yes, you grew the crumfort 274 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: level and that's no knocked on. Some guys who's been 275 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: in on the same team for like ten to fifteen years. 276 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: But me, you know, being additferent atmospheres, different locker rooms, 277 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: and different systems. I was able to assimilate to where 278 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: now the Titaness, you know, the tab born more different, 279 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: but I was able to understand a lot better. You know, 280 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: you put the preparation in, you know, it's easy to 281 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: we your way in and then I'm at a coach 282 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: t before, you know, during the draft prep part of 283 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: my life. So it's definitely honored to be here. What 284 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: is it about Mike Vrabel's football team. Mike Vrabel's coaching 285 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: that you like so much. He's a player's coach and 286 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: he's done it before, played fourteen years in the league, 287 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: and I mean just his energy, his way of thinking. 288 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: You know, he has coaches moments, but you could just 289 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: tell like I just got know what he's talking about, 290 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: and then like his scheduling, his own point. I really 291 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: love it. I mean, it's just, you know, it's something 292 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: that you every guy I want to play for because 293 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, you got guys who said in the waves 294 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: who never played a Donard football in their life, and 295 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm not known no coach you know, because you know, 296 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: you got great coaches out here who who definitely didn't 297 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: play but didn't know the game well. But it's a 298 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: new way, like football evolves, and you know, you want 299 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: coaches that understand the players, and Vabor does that. Being 300 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: able to have that, it must make it easier to 301 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: maybe provide suggestions or comments or something like that. Correct, 302 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: like you feel like you have a little bit more 303 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: of a voice. Absolutely, and then just he knows the fatigue, 304 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: he knows the days, He knows a hard practice because 305 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: he's been there. You know, he knows how how your 306 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: mind could be on some days. And you know he 307 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: switched dates. All right, guys, you know, here's what the 308 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: schedule it really was. So we're going to fix this. 309 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: All the stuff. I've seen him talking to KB and 310 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: breakfast the day, like, how do you guys feel about this? 311 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: That's this? Like that's that's that's big. You know what 312 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's making you want to pay for a coach, 313 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And give me your all. 314 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: So I mean him being very hands on because, like 315 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: I said, you got some coaches that's just so old school, 316 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: it's so set in their ways. And it's just a debacle. 317 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: Your versatility is something that everybody talks about. Where does 318 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: that come from? Life? Really life existential answer? Yeah, I 319 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: mean I've been blessed with a unique skill set to 320 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: where you know, a lot of people said I couldn't 321 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: do this, and I couldn't. I'm too a little for here, 322 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm not fast here, I'm sure, or I'm share But 323 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: I proved everybody wrong, you know, and continue working and 324 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, finding tune my craft day by day. That's 325 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: something that in our probe myself on. You know, no 326 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: one wants a one trick pony, not even women. Just 327 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: in talking to you, Adaptable is the word that comes 328 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: to my mind. Do you like that? I love it? 329 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: I love it. I mean in life, you never know 330 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: what you're throwing on you. You don't. No one knows 331 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: what tomorrow will bring for next week or next year. 332 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: Who would have thought COVID would have came, you know 333 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying? So how are you able to adapt 334 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: and be able to assimilate? I just think, God, you 335 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: know I'm able to you know, have that unique skill 336 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: and it's not easy, you know, because the human mind 337 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: loves comfort. But you know, when you know when something's coming, 338 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: when the door opens, when the door closes, how how 339 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: will you be able to grow? So being able to 340 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: adapt and be able to you know, embrace the uncomfort 341 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: is something that you know you will gain wisdom and 342 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: you know your intelligence and you know you'll be able 343 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: to hopefully rub that off and share that, you know, 344 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: testimoney with someone else to help them because you never 345 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: know what someone's going through. Mark's Walker, You're kind of 346 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: a cool dude. I'll try to be you know, it's 347 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: very cool. Thanks for hanging out with me a lot. 348 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: I've been through a lot in life, but you know, 349 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm able to for coming and help anyone out. I 350 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: like that. It's a good quality to have. Yeah, it's 351 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: one of my best interviews right here, that Mac. He 352 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: was a really good sport and let me make a lot, 353 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: not a lot of fun of him, but mess with 354 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: him a little bit. And I really appreciated that. And 355 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm happy to have him on the Titans defense. Well 356 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: he's happy to be on the Titans defense too, and 357 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: plus he knows you're harmless, So I mean all of 358 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 1: that went together in that You're right, he's a very 359 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: good sport. But He's happy to be here. He really is. 360 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: You know, those kind of guys that get this kind 361 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: of a chance and then all of a sudden can 362 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: produce a little bit. Well, then you know the door 363 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: opens up for him. And when we got another guy 364 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: like that on this team, Tier Tart was like that 365 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: last year. Finally got his chance, realized good things come 366 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: if I work a little harder and do some more things. 367 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: And so good for him. All right, Mac, let's look 368 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: ahead here. The Titans are getting ready to play the 369 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday Night Football. And before we 370 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: really get into the down and dirty xs and those 371 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: of it all, the Titans seemed to rise to the 372 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: challenge of taking on the Chiefs. They've beat them, what 373 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: eight out of the last nine times that we have 374 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: played them. What is it about that team and this 375 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: matchup that seems to be kind of in the favor 376 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: of the Titans. Yeah, well, I mean it's each individual 377 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: game is different. And you know, since Mahomes has been there, 378 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: the thing that has happened the one the times we've 379 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: beaten Mahomes, Mahomes has always given us a little help. 380 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: You know. The one year we played Mahomes if you remember, 381 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: he had an ankle, couldn't quite move around as much, 382 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: so we kage rushed him, squeezed him back down in there, 383 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: and then you know, he started trying to do too much. 384 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: And here's here's the thing about Mahomes or any of 385 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: those really good quarterbacks. They're always going to give you 386 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: one or two chances to get the ball. But when 387 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: those moments show up in a game, you got to 388 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: get them. Well, the Titans, when they have beaten the 389 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, they've capitalized on those moments. You know, 390 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: one time we played and beat them there in Kansas City, 391 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: we knocked Travis Kelcey out of the ball game. Well 392 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: that helps, you know, And so it's just been those 393 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: moments in time. But the Titans have taken advantage of 394 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: But when you go into the game, believe me, none 395 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: of these games that we've played count now because you 396 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: start looking at him as to where they are now. 397 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: And we started talking about Mahomes. He's a much more 398 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: mature quarterback than he ever has been. Now, he's working 399 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: through the offense. He's letting the offense work for him. 400 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: He's got six or eight receivers now that have double 401 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: digit catches already on the year. He's spreading the thing around. 402 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be it's gonna be a huge, huge 403 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: challenge this time against him, just because you're facing a 404 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: more mature quarterback. A lot of people in the National 405 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: Football League are having a hard time figuring out how 406 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: to contain Patrick Mahomes. What is that? Why can't anybody 407 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: really figure him out? Well, it's not figuring him out's 408 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: figuring the offense out because he gets so many He 409 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: gets so many chances with what Eric b Enemy and 410 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: what Andy Reid do and plus look, he's a special talent. 411 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: He can throw from all different launch points. You know, 412 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: he's very, very slippery once he moves up inside, and 413 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: people sometimes get little bit amped up about going to 414 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: get him and they open up some gaps give him 415 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: free access. If you give him free access up in 416 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: the middle of the pocket, he's gonna wear you out. 417 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: And the other thing is, now he understands this offense 418 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: to the point now he's not swinging for the fences. 419 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: Every time he takes the ball in his hands and 420 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: stands back there to throw it, he's taken what the 421 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: defense is giving them. And so that makes it really hard. 422 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: You know, since when they lost Tyreek Hilled, he lost 423 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: a guy that could go instantly, you know, from zero 424 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: to one hundred really quick. He doesn't have those guys, 425 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: but he's got good players, you know, Travis Kelsey, Juju 426 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: Smith Schuster has had a career resurrection going there from Pittsburgh. 427 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: So he's got He's got a lot of guys that 428 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: can make plays for him. He's got a really good 429 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: offensive line in front of him, and he's got a 430 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: good head coach. I mean, he's in the perfect situation. 431 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: And when Andy Reid traded up to get him in 432 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: the draft, everybody said, well, why are you going to 433 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: get this kid from Texas Tech that is just a running, 434 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: shoot gun slinger. Well, they set him for a year, 435 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: taught him, taught him how to play quarterback, and every 436 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: year since then he's rewarded him and the guys. The 437 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: guy's got what you want. Plus he's a great competitor. 438 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: You mentioned Travis Kelcey, and he's a tool that of 439 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: course they use a bunch. He spends a lot of 440 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: time in the slot, but that's not all he can do. Right, 441 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: We can do anything he really can't. I mean, they 442 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: can use him. I mean, they can use him anywhere 443 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: that they want to use him. He's a matchup nightmare 444 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: amy for any defense, not just the Titans defense, any defense. 445 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: He's a matchup nightmare. And he's one of those guys 446 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: you talk about security blankets. He's a security blanket for 447 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: Mahomes because he knows if he's got one on one, 448 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: he'll throw it to him and expect him just to 449 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: out muscle who's ever on him. And so, but he's 450 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 1: really good run after catch. He's very very He's got 451 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: nuances to his moves, you know, for a tighten, and 452 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: he's not. I mean, he's a big receiver, it's what 453 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: he is. But but he's got the power and the 454 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: strength of a tight end. So I mean that's why 455 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: he's he is. I think he's one of the one 456 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: or two premier adens in this league. And he's in 457 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: a perfect perfect offense. Having so many different assets to 458 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: an offense has to make it a lot easier for 459 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: them to utilize some of that run pass option stuff. Right. Yeah, 460 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: they're twenty one percent of RPOs and that's that's that's 461 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: just a little bit of what of what they do. 462 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: But they do it very very well. But as you said, 463 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: when everybody is on the page with that, the RPOs 464 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: were invented to make the defense wrong. You know, it's 465 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: a run pass option, but the quarterback has to be 466 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: able to read not only what's going on front side, 467 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: he has to be able to read what's going on backside, 468 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: and then he has to get on the same page 469 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: reading what's going on front side and backside at the 470 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: second level. Is the first ones at the first level, 471 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: whether to hand it off or that's run pass the 472 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: option to run it or pass it. So to read 473 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: the first line first and see how that is, and 474 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: then to be able to read the second, third levels 475 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: depending on how your coverage is going to be as 476 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: to where your receivers are going to be open. That's 477 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to think about mac well, and 478 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: they think about it very quickly. That's why they're good 479 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: at it. They're really good at it. That's very impressive. 480 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: Let's talk about those defenses that we're trying to trick. 481 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: What is the Chiefs kind of calling card or hallmark 482 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: on defense? Steve Spagnols, he's a four down guy. He's 483 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: a four down guy that he'll sprinkle quite a bit 484 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: of blitz is in there. He would love to just 485 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: rush with four and play coverage with seven like everybody 486 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: in the league is. You know, it is starting to do. 487 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: He's been a defens according in this league for a 488 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: long long time. No spags very well, but he would 489 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: love to be. You know, we got after Spags here 490 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: one time when they were here prior to this season, 491 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: and when we beat him here, he got a little 492 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: bit blitz heavy and we got him, you know, and 493 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: it cost him and I think he learned from that, 494 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: especially playing against this this football team. So I mean 495 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: he's got him. And Chris Jones is a guy that's 496 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: a three technique that is just like Jeffrey Simmons as 497 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: far as game wrecker. Now, he's longer than than Big 498 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: jeff Is. He's longer and he's I mean, you can't 499 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: let him take the game over because if you start 500 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: having problems with him, then he collapses the whole everything 501 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: that you're trying to do from inside out. They got 502 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: two linebackers behind the ball that are really fast and 503 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: you know the Bolton kids already made forty tackles this year. 504 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: William Gay is a guy that is super super fast. 505 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: But what they do. They're they're really they're a technique 506 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: sound team. And and Spags has called defenses for a 507 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: long time in this league, so very seldom does he 508 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: get out of control with what he's doing with the calls. 509 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: They have the third best run defense in the league. 510 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: How is that going to impact what the Titans are 511 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: able to do on offense? Well, they're the third best 512 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: run defense for a couple of reasons. They're good at it. 513 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: But scores are also separated a lot against their opponents, 514 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: and one scores get separated by three or more, which 515 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: they have a lot of because of what they're scoring. Uh, 516 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: then teams can't afford to run the football. So if 517 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: if it's gonna if we're gonna keep it close, then 518 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: the Titans have to be able to move it on 519 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: the ground successfully and keep pounding at them and see 520 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: if they're willing to stand up to that. Now, if 521 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: the score gets separated, you don't have to worry about 522 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: the run. And that's part of their success is they 523 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: play the run well early, They get touchdowns early, separate 524 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: the score, and then people can't afford to fight the 525 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: clock and the ground game if they want to have 526 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: a chance to get back in the Game's Arrowhead one 527 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: of your favorite venues in the National Football League. It's unique. 528 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's unique because of first of all, I 529 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: mean they put but they put it in the Royal 530 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,959 Speaker 1: Stadium right there in a huge parking lot. It just 531 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 1: sits on concrete. It's a huge, huge parking lot. And 532 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: it's some of the best tailgating in the world. Some 533 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: of the best tailgating ever, you know, right there in 534 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: arrow the best tailgating in the leagues at lambeau Field. 535 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: But Kansas City is close because they've got so much space, 536 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, and then they've done it. They've done it 537 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: there for years. But inside it's really loud. It was. 538 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: It was the loudest outdoor stadium in the league until 539 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: Seattle built that thing to concave and push the noise 540 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: back down inside. I was a little underwhelmed by Seattle 541 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: and the noise. I'm gonna be honest with you. I 542 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: mean it was loud, and it was I mean, it 543 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: was a playoff loud during and early in the season 544 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: regular season game. But it didn't like I was expecting, 545 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: like my ear drums to be on fire. I was expecting, 546 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: like real and I was like, this is cute, but 547 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean not, we expect to be scared. No, I 548 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: was just expecting to be overwhelmed by a wall of sound, 549 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: and that didn't happen for me. But Arrowheads loud. Arrowhead 550 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: smells the way I want my whole house to smell. 551 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: It's incredible when you are pulling down seventy and you 552 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: start getting close and you can see it crack your 553 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: windows because the smell of just like barbecue and grills, 554 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: and I wish I could bottle it and sell it. Man, 555 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: it's the best smell in the world. They know what 556 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: they're doing when their tailgat there. They absolutely know what 557 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: they're doing, and they've done it for a long time. 558 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: And they tailgate in the summer, they tailgate in the 559 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: dead of winter. They're going to tailgate there. Yep, they'll 560 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: be there, and they're gonna be loud, and they're gonna 561 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: be into it for the whole game. Definitely one of 562 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: my favorite venues, even though their press box is so 563 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: high up it makes me incredibly motion sack. The worst 564 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: vistors locker room in the league. Really, Oh, I didn't 565 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: know that. It's absolutely horrible down that little tunnel. It's horrible. 566 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: It's the worst, the absolute worst. You feel like you're 567 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: dressing in a prison. Oh, it's not good. It's a 568 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: very interesting it's done on purpose stadium design. I will 569 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: say as far as like lower concourses go very odd, 570 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: bit of a mazed situation and it's like one one 571 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: way of traffic. So if you've got someone coming head 572 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: on you're walking down a hallway, I mean, you just 573 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: have to fight in the middle. And most of the 574 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: time when I was coaching and was going up to 575 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: the press box, I would beat Casey Wolf walking, you know, 576 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: down that hallway all the time. And you know, I'd 577 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: always high five and Hi Casey Wolf, high coach, you know, 578 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: with high five and keep on moving coach. You're an 579 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: incredibly friendly opposing coach. I don't think Casey Wolf is 580 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: getting high fives from too many opposing coaches trying to 581 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: get where they need to go. Casey Wolf is like 582 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: t Rerec He's pretty well known around the league. Casey 583 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: Wolf has also been there for like forty years. He 584 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: absolutely has He's a legend, all right, anything else you 585 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: want to add? Mac, Have I forgotten anything? I feel 586 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: like we've covered a lot of ground here. Well, I 587 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: just want you to take some cotton for your ears. 588 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: So it's so loud, it's going to overwhelm you. I 589 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: don't want your ear drums break in. I want to 590 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: be overwhelmed. That's I want to be overtaken by the 591 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: wall of sound. And I just don't think it's gonna happen. 592 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen on this game. I 593 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: mean it's Sunday night, which is awesome. It's a big game, 594 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: which is awesome, But like I mean, it's not going 595 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: to be playoff level loud at Arrowhead. We've done playoff 596 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: loud at Arrowhead. That's a whole different ballgame. You beat 597 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: him and then it gets real quiet boom. That was 598 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: a lot of fun, it really was. That was so 599 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: much fun. We need to have fun again there. Yeah, 600 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. I am hoping that the 601 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans are having a lot of fun and it 602 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: is not very loud at Arrowheads Stadium. This Sunday night 603 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: kickoff is at seven twenty pm, so that means that 604 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: Titans Countdown is live on Titans Radio at six o'clock pm. 605 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: We hope you'll join us. I'll be there reet, Brian 606 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: will be there, Mac of course we'll be there. Um. 607 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, the Titans are handing to Kansas City and G. E. H. 608 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: A Field at Arrowheads Stadium. That is the official name 609 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: and the only time I will say that, thank you, 610 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: because I'll never say it. No. I know, it's Arrowheads, Arrowhead, 611 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: thank you. I understand the sponsors are important, but it's Arrowhead. 612 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: Don't mess with it. YEP. I felt like I should 613 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: say it once, So there you go. For coach Mack, 614 00:29:54,040 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 1: I'm Titans. Thank you for joining us. A sister