1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Oh, 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: here we go. Another edition to the Move the Sticks 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: podcast is back up and running in for DJ today. 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: I am Rhet Lewis alongside my man Bucky Brooks and Bucky. 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Good to be back here with you in the summer. Uh, 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: it's kind of been you know, it's been a wild 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: summer really um in the college football landscape, as we've 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: gotten into all of the name image likeness talk, We've 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: gotten into all of the college football playoff expansion talk 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: as we look forward to a college football season that 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: is much more normal than last year. So it's been 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: a bit more of I mean, recruiting of course, has 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: been back in full swing, and now we are looking 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: forward to this next group of college quarterbacks, uh, top level, 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: top flight quarterbacks coming up after seeing you know, five 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: quarterbacks go in the first round again in the NFL 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Draft this past season. So it's been an exciting summer 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: and I'm really excited about the fall, man, So we're 19 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: gonna kind of have an episode that's geared towards that 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: here today. Yeah. I think I think it's always interesting, uh, 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: when we have opportunity to talk about quarterbacks, and you know, 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 1: like we've seen so many guys come off the board 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: in recent years, and so many of these young guys 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: having success right away that you're seeing more and more 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: teams just say, hey, we can get it done with 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: our quarterback playing on a rocky deal, try and find 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: a way to build a super Bowl team around him. 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: So which of the next generation of quarterbacks will give 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: our team the best opportunity? And so when you look 30 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: at the class, the upcoming class and the quarterbacks that 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: we're talking about into two class, there are a lot 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: of intriguing possibilities. I won't say that they're the surefire 33 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: guys that we've talked about in the past at this 34 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: time of year, but there's certainly plenty of guys who 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: have first round potential that we will continue to talk about. Yeah, 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: no question, Uh, no question. And um, you know, our 37 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: Pala DJ has already kind of been diving into the 38 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: early scouting looks at some of those guys we perceive 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: as top flight quarterbacks in college football this year and 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: as top flight prospects heading into the NFL potentially next year, 41 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: depending on their college eligibility of course. Uh and your 42 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: UNC TAR Heels have one of those quarterbacks that Sam Howell. 43 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: Uh DJ did an early scout on Sam and and 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: say he reminded him a lot of Baker Mayfield. Will 45 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: dig into that a little bit. I'm actually excited to 46 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: go down to Thibodeaux, Louisiana on the campus of Nicols 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: State University, as I do every year for the Manning 48 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Passing Academy, where I'll get a chance to see Sam 49 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: Howe in person, along with some forty of the nation's 50 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: best quarterbacks who are invited by Archie Manning to be 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: on staff to coach up the high school kids that 52 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: are in attendance at the camp, and they kind of 53 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: put on a show for him as well in a 54 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: handful of workouts that they'll get to do under the 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: watchful eye of guys like me and uh more, much 56 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: more talented and much more quarterback um experienced guys like 57 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: Peyton and Eli Manning and some other quarterback coaches from 58 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: around the country that will be there as well. So 59 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm excited to go back down there. It's actually bucky 60 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: the twenty five anniversary of the camp which started back 61 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: in on the campus of Two Lane University back when 62 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: Buddy Tevens was the head coach there for the first 63 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: time in the twenty plus year history. They had to 64 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: take a break last year weren't able to have the 65 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: camp due to COVID, which would have been the twenty anniversary. 66 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: But now this year they're just coming back and rebranding 67 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: uh this year they and so it'd be a lot 68 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: of fun uh to get back with those guys that 69 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: I've been around. I think it would be my twenty 70 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: third year there. Um, So I'm I'm excited to go 71 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: back down and catch up with some old friends. And 72 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: and He's kind of see this next class of quarterbacks 73 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: because I mean, as you were looking, I showed you 74 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: the list, the list of college quarterbacks, um, that are 75 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: gonna be at this camp. Like, you'd be hard pressed 76 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: to find a top quarterback in college football that's not 77 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: scheduled to come down to the camp. You Know, it's funny, Red, 78 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: because I'm sitting here looking at the list that you're 79 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: sitting there a ton of quarterbacks. So I don't want 80 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: to disrespect any of the quarterbacks that are in the tendance, um, 81 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: but but the names that that pop right off the list, 82 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: and Matt curl Um Mcarrel, J. T. Daniels, Uh Sam 83 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: Howe from North Carolina. You go down bow Nick's from Auburn, 84 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: who has had some buzz throughout this time. You're a 85 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: guy from Indiana, Mike Pennance, that Spencer Rattler from Oklahoma, 86 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: Um kena Slovi's Uh DJ Malik Willis. I mean there's 87 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: so many guys. I mean, look and they're they're they're 88 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: more that certainly will get a lot of attention. But um, 89 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: I think this is a great time and Red You're 90 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: You're sitting from advantage point where if I'm a an 91 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: NFL Scott, I'm an evaluator. Going to the camp to 92 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: me is less about like watching guys spin it and 93 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: more about watching their interactions not only with the campers 94 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: but with the counselors that are there, and how they 95 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: get along and which guys are what we call like 96 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: great teammates, which guys are natural leaders, which guys kind 97 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: of um separate themselves, and those things because you know, 98 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: like we talked about it, like the the quarterback is 99 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: the CEO of of of the business, and so how 100 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: he represents himself, how he represents the franchise really really 101 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: matters when we get down to talking about the guys 102 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: that deserve to be at the top. Can we envision 103 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: this guy being a QB one for our franchise for 104 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: the next decade. I would be more interested in those 105 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: interactions and what actually takes place in the field over 106 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: the course of those few days. It's a great point. 107 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: And I've had some of those, uh, those thoughts and 108 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: those observations as in the last few years, um, you know, 109 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 1: as as more and more of my focus has become 110 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: about the draft and about evaluating these quarterbacks and trying 111 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: to figure out where they fit in the puzzle. And 112 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: I remember specifically some of those guys, like I came 113 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: back from a AMP God, it was probably five or six, 114 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: five years ago now, and I remember saying, man, Cody 115 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: Kessler was like the mayor, Like everybody wanted to be 116 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: Cody Kessler's friend, Like he was always in the middle 117 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: of the conversation, Like he was always in the middle 118 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: of the competition, and always you know, from from a 119 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: list Z list he was. He was the one that 120 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: was that was going up and hanging out with everybody. 121 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of cool, um, and you know, 122 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: ended up being a Day two pick. Uh was out 123 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns, I think if I remember correctly. Um. 124 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: And you know, and while he wasn't the most impressive 125 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: dude out there throwing it like, you could see that 126 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: there was a place for him at the next level 127 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: because of some of those qualities. I think, you know, 128 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and Joe Burrow kind of struck me the 129 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: same way. Uh, not the same way as not necessarily 130 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: the same way as as Cody, but the same way 131 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: as each other. And that they had this air of confidence, 132 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: um around them, around them and like you know, Baker 133 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: worked out with his shades on on and girl kind 134 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: of did the same. And at first you're like, oh, man, 135 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: this guy thinks he's too cool for school, and like, no, man, 136 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: this guy is just confident in who he is. He's 137 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: confident in his persona, he's confident in his character. Um. 138 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: And I think we've seen that, you know, transform certainly 139 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: did for Burrow is last year in college, and certainly 140 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 1: has for Baker. You know, as he's come into the NFL, 141 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: is you know, maybe a little bit of that brash 142 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: kind of personality, but he doesn't shy away from it. Um. 143 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: And it's not first show like it's who he is, 144 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, and so you get to see the personality 145 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: um a little bit. And I remember Dak Prescott being 146 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: down there and knowing a ton about Dak before his 147 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: last year in Mississippi State where he really kind of 148 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: took off, And remember talking to him. I was like, man, like, 149 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: this guy's got just like a great natural command, a 150 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: great natural ability to interact with people and to to 151 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: lead um. And I just felt like a man, I'd 152 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: love to be in a huddle with that guy. And 153 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know we we've certainly seen that transport. 154 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, some of those interactions as you've probably seen 155 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: in your time at at Elite eleven camps, as you know, 156 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: in a different transition, right as guys are beginning to 157 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: make the transition from high school to college. You can 158 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: kind of pick that stuff out too, right, you know 159 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: what was beautiful about it, Like we're I call them 160 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: like mile markers, right, So we get a chance to 161 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: see him in the Leader leven when they're going from 162 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: high school still about to get ready for college. And 163 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 1: now you have an opportunity to see him in college 164 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: when they're getting ready to maybe take the next step. 165 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: And so if you're one of those guys who has 166 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: an opportunity to really follow them from their adolescent years 167 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: and just kind of see, you're able to see how 168 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: they've matured. Has their personality changed at all when it 169 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: comes to oh they have more attention Where when they 170 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: were seventeen they acted like this. Now they're two. The 171 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: fame and the spotlight is really on them and they're 172 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: completely different. Um, so much of the decisions that we make, 173 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: we're in drafting quarterbacks, it's about the it factor, Uh, 174 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: the intent, doble qualities. Are the leaders? Are they the 175 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: guys that are the first one in, the last one out? 176 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: How do they handle themselves as professionals? Did he understand 177 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: the decorum that is expected of a quarterback? And so 178 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: we can talk about these off the record stories where 179 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: you hear on players like, uh, it's probably it's probably 180 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: not a great look, but it gives you a little insight. 181 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: And you know, like I'm sure like these scouts that 182 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: picked up the phone and say, hey man, what do 183 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: you think? What'd you hear? What's good? But like what 184 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: do you know? Because you're trying to build the profile 185 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: And so a lot of times we'll tweet out stuff. 186 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: When we go to respected camps, you'll tweet out stuff 187 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: from the mpaut, tweet out stuff from the eleven people. 188 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: Oh it doesn't matter. Yeah it does, but it doesn't. 189 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter in terms of like when you look 190 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: at the performance and those things, but it doesn't matter 191 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: how you carry yourself, because how you carry yourself it's 192 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: an even bigger indicator on what you potensitally could be. 193 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: Like when you're celebrity and you have a bunch of 194 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: money in your pocket, how are you going to handle 195 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: all of the trappings of life while also managing, um, 196 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: this job that push you maybe third in line in 197 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: the franchise because you can have the owner, you can 198 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: have the hit coos general manager, and you got the quarterback. 199 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: Those guys have to be in lockstep. Do you have 200 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: enough maturity to handle the responsibilities to come with that? Yeah, 201 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: no question. I think that those are some really good points. 202 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: And um, you know again, I'm just I'm looking down 203 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: the list. You you nailed a couple of the high 204 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: profile names from the list of quarterbacks that will be 205 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: down at the Manning Passing Academy, And you know, I 206 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: think you're right on. I think there's a group of 207 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: really intriguing dudes that are gonna be down there too. Um, 208 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: Michael Pennox from my alma mater, Indiana is certainly one 209 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: of them. You know, a guy who's supremely talented, has 210 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: a huge arm, but has finished each of the lot 211 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: of his first few seasons at Indiana injured with the 212 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, a serious century. This is the second a 213 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: c L tear that he's gonna be coming off of. 214 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: Didn't practice in the spring. I expected to be on 215 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: track for fall camp, and I know he did a 216 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: little bit of work at a camp recently, I think 217 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: back in his in his home state of Florida. So 218 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what he looks like, you know, 219 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: a little to see how that recoveries, you know, moving 220 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: as a guy who is you know, coming into this 221 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: season as and I was kind of you know, joke 222 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: about It's no joke, like he's very much considered the 223 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: best quarterback in the Big Ten Conference. Um, with the 224 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: uncertainty if you will that you know, Ohio State has 225 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: been trying to name his successor for Justin Fields. Uh, 226 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: it's funny because you're talking about you talking about panics. Um, 227 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: like Red. I I won't forget the two point play 228 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: that he made against I wanted to having to get 229 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: to the pylon. And then and then we see the 230 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: seismic shift in UH quarterback play in the National Football 231 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: League level and how athleticism is now valued more than 232 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: it ever has been. A guy like that, despite the 233 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: A C. O injuries or whatever, Um, he now has 234 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: probably more leeway to find a way into the National 235 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: Football League than ever because before you didn't dismiss some 236 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: of those trades and really focus on how a goat 237 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: performs extensively in the pocket, when now he gives you 238 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: some of that playmaking ability, some of the ability to 239 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: make things right when it's um not necessarily going according 240 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: to script. You like that, But now what I want 241 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: to do is I do want to see the durability 242 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: and health and reliability. Can he be a guy that 243 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: can play eleven twelve games for his team and give 244 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: them their franchise quarterback production? Exactly right? And because durability 245 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: will be a huge part of his evaluation when his 246 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: time UH to go into the NFL comes and spent 247 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: A rattler from Oklahoma, UM, you know, is a Heisman 248 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: front runner before the season even even begins here from 249 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: his work at Oklahoma and the way that Lincoln Riley 250 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: has put out quarterbacks put them into the NFL. So 251 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna be down there at the camp as well. 252 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: That will be really interesting. But another one of those 253 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: kind of intriguing guys, I think Kinsey Milton m who's 254 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: gonna be down there and in his first season leading 255 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: the Florida State Seminoles and his rebound from that devastating 256 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: knee injury after a phenomenal career u CF. I think 257 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: that will be really interesting to watch him run around. 258 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter from Cincinnati is another one that's really interesting 259 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: to me. Is arguably one of the best group of 260 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: five teams in the country. He'll be there. Malik Willis 261 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: from Liberty, Like, is there a more Is there a 262 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: more exciting quarterback in this group, um and in the 263 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: country than what Malik Willis does and has done at 264 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: Liberty and what we expect him to do this year. Yeah, 265 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: those guys spique my interest to you know that it's 266 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: a really interesting list and those guys that you brought 267 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: up is funny. So um, first thing and just talking 268 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: about Spencer Rabbit, I think the most important thing that 269 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: Spencer Rabbler has to do over the course of the 270 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: next year has little to do with what he does 271 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: on the field and everything to do with how he 272 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: is off the field. If you had a chance to 273 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: check him out when he's on QB one, it gave 274 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: you a preview maybe of his personality and depending on 275 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: maybe what you like stylistically in terms of your quarterback, 276 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: that may or may not agree with you. And so 277 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: I think over the next year or the next six 278 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 1: to eight months, he has to prove the people that 279 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: from a maturity standpoint, he can handle the responsibilities of 280 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: being a franchise quarterback and do it um in a 281 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: way that fits how most teams want their quarterback one 282 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: to act, Meaning you want your quarterback to be confident, 283 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: but you still wanted to be a guys guy in 284 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: terms of in the locker room, and it's a it's 285 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: a fine line between kind of hey, I'm the best 286 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: player on the team, look at me, and hey, I'm 287 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: the best player of the team, but I'm right here 288 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: in the trenches with you. I think that's the part. 289 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: Everyone will go to his games and they will pay 290 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: attention to his interaction with his teammates and coaches on 291 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: the sideline far more than whatever he does on the 292 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: field for the ball between the lines, because DA's depart 293 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: they really really matters. Yeah, and so I'll be certainly 294 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: curious to see, you know, how he interacts with this 295 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: alpha group of of quarterbacks that's gonna be down there, 296 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: and um, how they kind of playoff one another, compete 297 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: with one another, hang out with one another. That whole 298 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: thing is gonna be really interesting. A couple other big 299 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: time quarterbacks, Sean Clifford from Penn State kind of had 300 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: a down year last year for the Nitney Lyons and 301 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: will be a big part of whatever their resurgence is 302 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: this year. You mentioned Keaton Slovis. That will be interesting. 303 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: But elsewhere in the other big ten quarterback I was 304 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: talking about was Anthony Russo, who comes over from Temple 305 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: uh to try to take the job as the Michigan 306 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: State Spartan's starting quarterbacks. So uh, and again there's there's 307 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: fourty year so quarterbacks. Kenny Pickett Pitt is another one 308 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: to watch as we get into the NFL evaluations. Um. 309 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: And then at l s U they got a big 310 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: time competition right between Miles Miles Brennan, Max Johnson, Brad 311 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: Johnson's son Um, So both of those those cats will 312 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: be there. Uh, so you know there's definitely some intrigue 313 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: among among this group. So and then you know next 314 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: week you're going down is it the is it the 315 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: Opening Finals next week? Yeah, so it's weird. So it's 316 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: not quite what it had been in the past. But yeah, 317 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: there will be a version of the opening to coincide 318 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: with the lead eleven. And it's funny because there's gonna 319 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: be some cross over there some of the quarterbacks that 320 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: were at the Manning Passing Academy with eleven and they 321 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: will be counselors. And the great thing about this is 322 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: these guys will get a chance to go back through 323 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: the process a few years after going through it as 324 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: high schoolers. And so we know, uh, Sam, how will 325 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: be there? Spencer rather to be there? I think Malik 326 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: Willis is coming out. The big thing about this in 327 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: the elite eleven stratospheres, you'll get a chance to see 328 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: those guys work with and teach uh some of the 329 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: top quarterbacks, but you get a chance to have them 330 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: go through a pro day. Their own version of a 331 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: pro day will get a chance to see them kind 332 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: of go through it, see them spend it. UH. They 333 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: would be challenged to do a bunch of different things. 334 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: And then behind the scenes, UM, the Elite Eleven staff 335 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: does a great job of bringing in UH mentors. A 336 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: few years ago, Trent Baky came in and spoke to 337 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: the Elite eleven quarterbacks. Jerry Goff came in and was 338 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: speaking to the quarterbacks. They'll have a couple of speakers 339 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: that have come in and really dropped some some words 340 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: of wisdom on them as they think about the process 341 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: going forward. And so it's a great event. It's one 342 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: that I'm excited to be a part of. But I'm 343 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: really excited to kind of get some some some background 344 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: and some research done to kind of sort out some 345 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: of these guys that we talked about being top quarterbacks. Yeah, 346 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you who some of the dignitaries 347 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: are because in that and that that are going to 348 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: come back, because I you know with the one seed, 349 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: the one year, the one summer that we got to 350 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: go up DJ and I would did that broadcast of 351 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: the finals the year that Justin Fields won the m 352 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: v p UM. You know, I remember seeing Odell Beckham 353 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: come out and be him. You know, I was in 354 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: awe of just how in awe all the kids were 355 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: of him. You know, like this rock star that comes 356 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: down and descends on his camp and it's like the 357 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: like the world stops for a second, like he just 358 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: he had that star power. Um so let me ask 359 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: you this, uh so this this would be for the 360 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: elite eleven, like this would be like Queen yours would 361 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: be one of the guys. Right, yeah, I think I would. 362 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: I would expect him to be able to be there. 363 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: I think he isn't see if I can pull up 364 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: this list. But you know, it's really exciting about seeing 365 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: it is it's the next generation and seeing how they 366 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: handle the pressure of dealing with that part of it, 367 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: Like who is in the mix? Um? Who does it? Yeah? 368 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: So okay, so I'm looking right now we have was 369 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: it Devin Brown? Queen Yours from South Lake, Carol, Um 370 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: and it's me Johnson? Want to be there? Complete roster? 371 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: Did you just the roster house? I'm popping it up. Well, 372 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: Queen so Quinn Yours I think is an interesting um 373 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: study as a as a high school kid, right because 374 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: we're still well, the hair's one thing, you know all that, 375 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: But you know, we talk about the trickle down. Um. 376 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: You know, I think a lot of times we talk 377 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: about concepts trickling into the NFL from the ground up, 378 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: like from the lower levels in but I think you know, 379 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: you see some of the styles of play trickled down 380 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: as well, like the Patrick Mahomes stuff, the suh And 381 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: I think that's part of why, you know, the recruiting 382 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: world and the college football world is so enamored with 383 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: a kid like Queen yours, who can you know, flat 384 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: out sling it and be one of those kind of 385 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: off scheduled playmakers that we are enamored with in the 386 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: NFL now right, Yeah, I mean he certainly has that ability. 387 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: Coming out of south Way, south Lake, Carol. Um, we've 388 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: seen a ton of players, big time players come through 389 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: their Fox are number one overall prospect on all the 390 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: recruiting list, guys, big time arm talent. Um has that 391 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes Zack Wilson asked stuff that everyone has fallen 392 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: in love with the ability to make plays um off schedule, 393 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: to have these wild throws kind of pop up. So 394 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: it's just one of those things that you want to 395 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: continue to like watch him and monitor when he has 396 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: his opportunity. I mean, he's a good one. He's a 397 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: big time he's a big time player. Yeah, number one 398 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: player in the country of from most recruiting services and 399 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: committed to Ohio States. So you know, if you're thinking 400 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: about if you're thinking about the buck Eyes and and 401 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: you know, a team that was the national runner up 402 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: last year, losing to the Alabama in the National title 403 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: game and Justin Fields gets drafted by the Chicago Bears, 404 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: and then who's next to Ohio State? Well, maybe it's 405 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: short lived, you know, you know, because you're always gonna 406 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: get you know, be in the in the market for 407 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: that number one you know quarterback. If you're a powerhouse 408 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: like Ohio State, they've got one coming in us who 409 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: will be hot on the heels of C. J. Stroud 410 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: whoever ends up being the next quarterback at Ohio State 411 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: once we get too season. But that's the story for 412 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: another day. Um. But you know, do you find though, Bucky, 413 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: that um, that you're able to gain any to gain 414 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: much even if it's like a mile marker as you 415 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: were talking about from the on field stuff in terms 416 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: of let's say the way a quarterback throws it going 417 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: into his senior year and then when you see him, 418 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, maybe getting ready for the draft, going into 419 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: you know, his last year college or or you know, 420 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: as a prospect, do you kind of are you able 421 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: to use that on the field stuff from from the 422 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: opening or from the elite eleven and kind of gauge 423 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: the improvement in the development. Yeah, I think so, even 424 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: though is I mean, look, it's not real ball. You're 425 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: talking about seven or seven play UM. I think what 426 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: you're able to see is in the opening and you 427 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: called it because you and DJ called the finals one year. 428 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: Maybe when justin fields one MBB. What these quarterbacks face. 429 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: They face defenses with five star athletes started as fast 430 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: as they've ever seen, and for some it's the first 431 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: time that the windows have gotten smaller and tighter, and 432 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: so it impacts the way that they react because they're 433 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: so used to making these easy throws that it might 434 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: be the first time that they passed some on field adversity. 435 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: And then when you add the pressure and you put 436 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: them in a crucible, the pressure with these elite quarterbacks 437 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: that they're seeing go throw for throw with UM, you 438 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: do get a sense of how they compete, how they 439 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: focus their intangible qualities. Um, you get a chance to 440 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: see the grittiness and the mental toughness that they have, 441 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: and overall you see the competitive nature of those guys. 442 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence that, uh, the one 443 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: that you were at it was traveling Awrence. It was 444 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: justin fields. You've got a chance to see those guys. 445 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: I think you would even say it makes it very 446 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: very easy to stand in front of the camera and 447 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: tout those guys when you've seen the talent early and 448 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: you're like, man, I know it may get a little 449 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: sideways in college, but man, when they were seventeen eighteen, 450 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: the talent there looked like it was worthy of, uh 451 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: potentially being a first round pick. Sure. Sure, And you 452 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: know like that, like I mentioned, uh, you know, we 453 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: won't see we won't be talking about you know, d 454 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: j Ue ungleal Ay, Um, you know, the successor to 455 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence at Clemson. As you were just mentioning Lawrence, 456 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: we won't we won't see him in the draft prospect 457 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: chat next spring. He'll still have another year to go, 458 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: uh as things currently stand. But um, you know there 459 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: there are some guys like that you know where we'll 460 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: just have to kind of file away, right, and you 461 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: can and becomes even more valuable because you can kind 462 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: of create as I was kind of alluding to, with 463 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: you getting a chance to seek quarterbacks you know, at 464 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: the Elite eleven and then you know, at certain camps 465 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: in in their college years, and then as we get 466 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: to evaluate their game tape in college as they prepare 467 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: for the NFL. It's just another one of those markers 468 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: where we could say, all right, looked, looked, you know, 469 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: I saw him here, uh, and then next year if 470 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: I could just see him again. You can kind of 471 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: compare those notes, not just on the field, but off 472 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: the field and how they develop in their personality and 473 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: in their ability to be comfortable in their own skin 474 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: and comfortable in their uh, their interactions with other high 475 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: level prospects and players and talents. So um, there's just 476 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: so much to gain from these things, even though the 477 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: on the field workout is always taken with a grain 478 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: of salt here because you're talking about shorts and T shirts. 479 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: Although I will say that I do remember Trevor Lawrence 480 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: at the camp um at the Manning camp, I remember 481 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: seeing him sail a few balls um over the tops 482 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: of it. And I remember that also being a part 483 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: of the evaluation. You know, there are very few negatives, 484 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: very few. I didn't but it was it was a 485 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: part of it, right, Yeah, it definitely was a part 486 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: of it. Like red, I look, I I believe how 487 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: how the kids performing these things. There is some carry over. 488 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: You can't see if guys have a noticeable pattern of 489 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: struggles on particularly outbreaking throws, Like he just has a 490 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: tough time throwing outbreaking throws to his right as opposed 491 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: to his left. Um, is there something that you can 492 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: clean like, you know, just third or fourth time that 493 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: he's had a tough time with this concept of this 494 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: past or those things, and so you monitor it. There's 495 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: been a lot made of and this didn't necessarily happened 496 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: at a camp, But like Lamar Jackson right now, people 497 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: will talk about Lamar Jackson throwing outside of the numbers. Well, 498 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: when you go back and watch them in college, he 499 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: didn't throw the ball well outside the numbers then, and 500 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure you probably didn't throw the ball well in 501 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: shorts and T shirts outside of the the numbers. Like that's 502 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: just kind of a part of who they are and 503 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: as you talk about doing the the yearly check in 504 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: a good area scout. A good scout understands his area, 505 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: knows his school, and so when these ballyhooed freshmen come in, 506 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: they make some notes on them, they keep up with them. 507 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: Oh freshman years, this, sophomore years, that junior years here, 508 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: Because ultimately, when you're drafting, you should be drafting on 509 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: the total body of your work, not just the final season. 510 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: And so if you've had access to these kids early, man, 511 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: you can feel more confident when you put that that 512 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: final grade on the player that they are what you 513 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: think they will be. Or here's their strengths, here the weaknesses, 514 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: here's how we kind of need to proceed with them. Yeah, 515 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: I think that's a good point. Um. So look, I'm excited. 516 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: Excited to get down, uh kind of in person. You know, 517 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: it's mus been the first like big event, like football 518 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: related event that I've gotten to go whenever forever, Like 519 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: it's a combine last year. Really, um so excited to 520 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: get back and watch some ball in person. I mean 521 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be weird. Uh. I mean it's it's 522 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: a good feeling, clearly, but there's there's like a. It's 523 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: amost like the first day of school, kind of feeling 524 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: like a little anxiety. Are is still three weeks away, 525 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 1: Like it's not happening this year until July July fifteen 526 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: through the eight team. So I'll be sure to come 527 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: back and check in with you guys after that and 528 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: let you know my thoughts on on how everything transpires. 529 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: But um man, I'm really excited to go to that. 530 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: I know you're always You're always jack to go down 531 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: there and coach the next generation of players. It's always fun. 532 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: You're better coaching, you have better players. That's what I want. 533 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: Better players, a better the coach. So you get a 534 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: chance to play, um get the chance to be check 535 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: four weekend and kind of see what it's like. Hey, 536 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: look at all these players, like, hey man, it's easy. 537 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: Let's just do this stuff and let's go now. It 538 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: is really a lot of fun, not only like coaching them, 539 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: but getting to know them and RhE it happens in 540 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: a blink of an eye, Like you see these young 541 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: people that you're around that are in high school and 542 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: college and saying, before you know it, these guys are 543 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: stars in the National Football League and you're having these 544 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: conversations talking about hey remember when um I think that's 545 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: one of the coolest forces of the job and the 546 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: access that we have doing the stuff that we do 547 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: at NFL Media. But it is. And also the other 548 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: stuff to do outside is being able to take those 549 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: experiences and kind of bring them back and share those 550 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: stories podcast and on TV and all that other stuff. 551 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: So it's been a ton of fun. So the last 552 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: thing I'll say on this and then we'll get out 553 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: of here for the day and get back with everybody 554 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: next week. But um, so I get it. So I 555 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: coach a group of receivers down there in Tipoo every year, 556 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: which is great. It's so much fun, uh, you know 557 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: for me. And it's hard work now. I mean it's 558 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: three a day practices essentially, and I'll run a seven 559 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: one team at night heat and I love the heat. 560 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: I love this, I love the humidity. It's great, all right. 561 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: So the thing that I've noticed each year, um, in 562 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: the years since you know, my playing career has gotten 563 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: further and further in the review mirror, is that you 564 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: know a lot of the same you know, receiver work 565 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: in drills. You know they're they're they're somewhat static, like 566 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, you're always gonna run some comb drills, work 567 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: on round check, you work on ball drills. And the 568 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: thing that that I have struggled with and I have 569 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: fallen way far behind with, are like the warm up stuff, 570 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: like the like the stretching, the like the up static 571 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: warm up or whatever. You don't just do right over left, 572 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, and your toes and you know, so we 573 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: gotta we gotta get moving ball balls. They're doing stuff. 574 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: It's funny that you bring it up, right. So I 575 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: went uh to Jackson, uh last week, and so I'm 576 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: there for minicamp or whatever, and so I am I am, 577 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: I am there and I'm watching them and so they 578 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: come out and they go to a warm up period, right, 579 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: and so I'm thinking warm up is like, hey, we've 580 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: can get in the line. We're gonna go clad No no, no, 581 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: They're going up and over hurdles. They're doing letter drill, 582 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: they're pushing sleds, they're doing these different movements and they 583 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: get with the bands and they're rocking back and forth 584 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: and twisting and a work. And then they go and 585 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: do a walk through and then they come back and 586 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: do a warm up and I'm like, my goodness has 587 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: been thirty minutes and we haven't got the right Like 588 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: what happened to like a few you know, touch your toes. Yeah, no, 589 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: it's a completely different deal when it comes to it. 590 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: It's funny that you should I thought what you're gonna say? 591 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: You notice that, Um now it takes you a little 592 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: while to get in shape to be able to coach, 593 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: because now you have to get into coaching shape. And 594 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: if you haven't been utilizing your coaching muscles, now when 595 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: you get out the demo, you have to do it. 596 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: Any other thing that I learned red before I used 597 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: to pride myself and on and put on my cleeks. 598 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna going demo and show these guys have to 599 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: go through the cones. Now I am a three step coach, 600 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: meaning I talk it, I walk it, and then I 601 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: do the last three steps at half speed. Hey, so 602 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna shoulders over knees over toes are round it. Yeah. 603 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: So I hope you can visualize what I'm teaching you 604 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: because I can't demo it anymore exactly right. And I 605 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: my arm legitimately falls off. After the first day of 606 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: throwing five five balls to these kids, I mean, look, 607 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade it for the world. It's one of 608 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,239 Speaker 1: the highlights of my summer each and every year. But man, 609 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: do I pay for it up? We're gonna go ice 610 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: up now and get you out of here. 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