WEBVTT - Classic Music Saved Me with Pat Monahan from Train

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<v Speaker 1>Music Saved Me.

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<v Speaker 2>When Hay Soul Sister came out, there was a family

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<v Speaker 2>with a highly autistic child who is eight years old

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<v Speaker 2>and had not spoken one word in his lifetime.

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<v Speaker 3>The parents were in the kitchen and the television.

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<v Speaker 2>Was on in the other room, and obviously that video

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<v Speaker 2>for Hay Souls Sister was on, and they heard something

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<v Speaker 2>that they've never heard before and walked in and their

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<v Speaker 2>son was singing to Hey Soul Sister. The first thing

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<v Speaker 2>that they ever heard this eight year old do was

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<v Speaker 2>sing that song.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Len Hoffman and this is the Music Saved Me podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>the podcast where we get to explore the healing powers

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<v Speaker 4>of music with some of the biggest names in music.

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<v Speaker 4>And we also love being supporters of Musicians on Call,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a wonderful charity that does tremendous work using

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<v Speaker 4>the healing power of music to make a difference for

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<v Speaker 4>so many today. Our guest is the leader of the

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<v Speaker 4>multi Grammy winning band and an old pal from Train,

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<v Speaker 4>Pat Monaghan. Pat, it is so great to have you

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<v Speaker 4>on Music Saved Me. I think it's been a minute

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<v Speaker 4>since I've seen you, and I actually still have the

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<v Speaker 4>Train bottle of wine here that I have not drunk yet,

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<v Speaker 4>so a very special occasion.

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<v Speaker 1>For me today.

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<v Speaker 3>Great it is for me too, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>To the show.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure when the last time we spoke was,

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<v Speaker 4>but today it's specifically about music and how it can heal.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm curious, do you believe that music has healing powers?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I've received emails many times that music has done

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful things for people that I've been a part of,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm very grateful for those emails and conversations that

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<v Speaker 2>I've had. One particular was when Hey Souls Sister came out.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a family with a highly autistic child who

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<v Speaker 2>is eight years old and had not spoken one word

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<v Speaker 2>in his lifetime, and the parents are in the kitchen

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<v Speaker 2>and the television was on in the other room, and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously that video for Hay Soul Sister was on, and

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<v Speaker 2>they heard something that they've never heard before and walked

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<v Speaker 2>in and their son was singing to Hey Soul's Sister.

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<v Speaker 2>The first thing that they ever heard this eight year

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<v Speaker 2>old do was sing that song. So there's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be something in music that stimulates our brains and hearts

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<v Speaker 2>to shift or change or progress, whatever it is. But

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely believe in it. I know music has saved

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<v Speaker 2>my life many times.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you give us one example.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I grew up in Erie, Pennsylvania, and music was

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<v Speaker 2>a thing that separated me from my peers.

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<v Speaker 3>That I tried.

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<v Speaker 2>Sports to do that, to be exceptional at it, and

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<v Speaker 2>that didn't work, and academic certainly didn't work, and there

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<v Speaker 2>weren't many other choices. So I would just sing to

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<v Speaker 2>everybody in class and it was usually Led Uppelin songs.

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<v Speaker 2>And then from there I became a singer and a

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<v Speaker 2>LEDs Upland cover band, and well, then I ended up

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<v Speaker 2>moving to Los Angeles and San Francisco to start training.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you have a very strong connection with your fans.

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<v Speaker 4>They're called training acts. I've met quite a few of

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<v Speaker 4>them in my day, and I want to know what

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<v Speaker 4>it means to you when you hear from your fans

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<v Speaker 4>about their lives and their challenges and their loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, you know, it means as much as

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<v Speaker 2>it would mean if a close friend told you. Because

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<v Speaker 2>these people have been with me for you know, thirty years,

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<v Speaker 2>so we've become very close friends. We email each other

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes talk on the phone, and other times we

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<v Speaker 2>meet on a cruise every other year. Which is really

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<v Speaker 2>a great way to connect with them and for them

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<v Speaker 2>to connect with us.

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<v Speaker 4>There's this trend for artists to be transparent about their lives.

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<v Speaker 4>For example, we've had jelly Roll. We've also heard similar

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<v Speaker 4>stories from Brent Smith from Shineedown. I wonder you've always

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<v Speaker 4>been an open book about your life through your music.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, how difficult.

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<v Speaker 4>But is it even difficult for you to share what's

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<v Speaker 4>happening in your life with people through your music?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I share what feels like It wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>a burden for people. You know, when I do have struggles,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really look to train fans for sympathy or comfort. However,

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<v Speaker 2>I will share similar stories that people are sharing with me.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't feel like, you know, in a position

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, being a successful singer in a rock band,

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<v Speaker 2>that's hard for people to go, oh, well, isn't that

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<v Speaker 2>so bad that that happened to you? When people are

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<v Speaker 2>really struggling with big stuff. If someone shares something with me,

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<v Speaker 2>I will share a similar story if it feels appropriate,

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<v Speaker 2>But otherwise, you know, I keep my woes to myself.

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<v Speaker 4>Your song Drops of Jupiter, it's one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 4>songs of all time, if I may say, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>a very personal song to you, it's about your mom passing.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you tell us about how you created that, how

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<v Speaker 4>you were able to make that and put it out

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<v Speaker 4>there for people to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>We recorded an album called Something More and delivered it

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<v Speaker 2>to Columbia Records, and they didn't think we had a

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<v Speaker 2>first single. I was emotionally not in the mood because

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<v Speaker 2>I lost my mother just recently and now I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a single for this record company. And one night

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<v Speaker 2>I went to sleep and probably was sleep for ten

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<v Speaker 2>minutes and woke up with all the lyrics and melodies

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<v Speaker 2>in my head as though my mother had delivered me

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<v Speaker 2>the message, this is what it's like when you go

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<v Speaker 2>to the other side. You can swim through the planets

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<v Speaker 2>and come back with drops of Jupiter in your hair

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<v Speaker 2>and don't worry about me. So then, you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>the looking for yourself out there, that was the emotional

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<v Speaker 2>part of it for me. That was like, it's it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, somehow had to translate into a.

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<v Speaker 3>Love story, and so that was that was the little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of.

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<v Speaker 2>Something I gave to the song that maybe my mother

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<v Speaker 2>didn't deliver.

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<v Speaker 4>That were you surprised at how huge that song was

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<v Speaker 4>and how connected.

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<v Speaker 1>With so many people.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no reason for that song to become a hit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing as any other song that was

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<v Speaker 2>big for us, Like even Meet Virginia was a quirky

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<v Speaker 2>little song and a song with a yukulele and.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, drops a jupiter.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like four minutes and twenty seconds or something

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<v Speaker 2>at a time, and there were you know, two and

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<v Speaker 2>a half minutes songs on the radio. So that's so true.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a pretty interesting that that it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>You had a charity that you work with, your charity

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<v Speaker 4>house in San Francisco. Can you tell us about that

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<v Speaker 4>and what that work means to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a it's a place called family House that

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<v Speaker 2>houses you know, low income families with very sick kids

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<v Speaker 2>that are being treated at UCSF Hospital. Most of them

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<v Speaker 2>are you know, brain tumors, eye tumors, things with the

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<v Speaker 2>head that UCSF Hospital is very specialized in. So when

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<v Speaker 2>we started making wine about twelve years ago, we decided

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<v Speaker 2>that it should be a reasonable a reasonably priced bottle

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<v Speaker 2>of wine from you know, the Bay area. Whether it

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<v Speaker 2>was nap or East Bay or somewhere so that train

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<v Speaker 2>fans could get a taste of where we're from. And

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<v Speaker 2>in the meantime, proceeds from those sales would go to

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<v Speaker 2>family house, and then every time that another charity event happens,

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<v Speaker 2>we just give them the money for that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an incredible program that has saved people's lives and

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<v Speaker 2>dignity for many years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really exciting to hear about things that other people

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<v Speaker 4>do to help those but it also it's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when you have that power and that platform to use

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<v Speaker 4>it for good.

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<v Speaker 1>Things, and it's just it's a special thing. I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was obvious at the time that it was

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<v Speaker 2>time to give back to the Bay Area for all

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<v Speaker 2>they've done for us, So it was a pretty easy choice.

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<v Speaker 4>You had vocal surgery in the past, which is shocking

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<v Speaker 4>to me because I didn't realize that until I read

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<v Speaker 4>about it. You love what you're creating and the impact

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<v Speaker 4>that it has. What was it like for you going

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<v Speaker 4>through that surgery? I mean, did you think that you

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<v Speaker 4>were going to be able to still make music?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the you know, that's an example of things

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<v Speaker 2>I don't share with with trained fans or anybody. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I recently mentioned that to someone then, and here

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<v Speaker 2>we are talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, forgive me, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no It's okay, it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the one who said it. But you know it's

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<v Speaker 2>been it's been you know, five or more years now.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, it was, you know, the scariest thing

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, you can imagine. And right prior to that,

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<v Speaker 2>I was playing golf and pro am and Pebble Beach

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<v Speaker 2>and I was with a guy who is also a

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<v Speaker 2>singer and told them I was about to fly to

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco after the pro am to have vocal cord

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<v Speaker 2>surgery where they actually removed scar tissue from both folds

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<v Speaker 2>of my local chords because I couldn't there were times

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't sing at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, man.

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<v Speaker 5>That's like Tom Brady getting his right arm worked on.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not really what I was hoping you'd say. But

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<v Speaker 5>that even scared me more so. But anyway, when I

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<v Speaker 5>came out of it, and the doctor's name is Clark Rosen,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's originally practiced in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and when I

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<v Speaker 5>met him, I just had a real connection to him,

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<v Speaker 5>and he did an incredible job. And here I am

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<v Speaker 5>able to sing in many cases better than I ever have.

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<v Speaker 5>There are certain things I can't do anymore, but for

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<v Speaker 5>the most part, I can do it all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>I do voice work for my secondary job, and I

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't even imagine if someone said that I had to

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<v Speaker 4>go have that done, I'd be petrified. Did you listen

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<v Speaker 4>to any particular music to get you through it or

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<v Speaker 4>your own?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well, you know, music is such an interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Music wasn't going to be what was going to like

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<v Speaker 6>pull me out of being scared, because listening to people

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<v Speaker 6>sing is just like I want to keep being.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, So there's that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was more of, you know, just communicating with the

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<v Speaker 2>people that I needed to about, knowing that it was

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<v Speaker 2>the right thing for me to do at the right time.

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<v Speaker 2>And but then shortly after music was everything because I

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<v Speaker 2>had to, you know, teach myself to sing in a

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<v Speaker 2>different way because I didn't want to end up having

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<v Speaker 2>to be back there or doing the same thing. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think singing those LEDs upland songs put me in

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<v Speaker 2>more jeopardy than I mean. That's why Robert Plant doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>do it anymore makes sense. You know, he's probably like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you doing kids that look.

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<v Speaker 1>On your face?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, in closing, how would you like your music to

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<v Speaker 4>be remembered in terms of the good that it spreads

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<v Speaker 4>in the world world.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a big answer, because I'd like it to

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<v Speaker 2>be remembered. And you know, unfortunately, I'm a fan of

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<v Speaker 2>comedy and I just saw Ricky Jarvay special that was incredible,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like, none of us will be remembered,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's just a matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Of time, and so, you know, quit being an asshole.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think, you know, for the short time that

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be here on the planet, and for however many

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<v Speaker 2>years after. I just think that music is supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>have hope.

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<v Speaker 3>I always did. I remember writing.

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<v Speaker 2>The first few songs I ever wrote, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>at a time of grunge music, and so people were

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<v Speaker 2>like this sucks, like it's like it's so cushy, and

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<v Speaker 2>but for me, it was like, I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I think people need to have hope somewhere. So Calling

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<v Speaker 2>All Angels, you know, was at a time where I

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<v Speaker 2>was really I was really at odds with myself, like

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<v Speaker 2>we were successful, but I was incredibly unhappy and I

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<v Speaker 2>found an incredible therapist and she told me that we

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<v Speaker 2>are divided between angels and traders, and I had to

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<v Speaker 2>call my angels and I was like, consider it stolen.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the things that gave me hope. And I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that was the message I was supposed to deliver.

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<v Speaker 2>So hope is is underrated and really helps.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think writing music also is sort of a therapeutic.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's if I didn't have the ability to write music,

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<v Speaker 2>then I would be a mess because it really helps

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<v Speaker 2>a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope a lot of people hear that and try

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<v Speaker 4>it out. It's pretty it's pretty incredible, even if you're

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<v Speaker 4>not writing a song, just writing in general, getting your

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<v Speaker 4>thoughts out of the general.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you, Pat, it was so good to see you.

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<v Speaker 4>Congratulations on all the continued success with the band, and

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<v Speaker 4>thank you for joining us on music save Me and

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<v Speaker 4>and for the joy.

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<v Speaker 1>That your music brings to so many. Well, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, you too.