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Speaker 1: they're not beating the Sixers without the high end offensive

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Speaker 1: moving on to the Lakers. I feel bad for Lakers fans.

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Speaker 1: I thought this was a huge missed opportunity. Yes, in

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Speaker 1: for instance, like Trey Brown Jr. Hard working guy that's

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Speaker 1: Ruy Hutcher, Murmer, these kinds of guys, Dennis Shrewder, Patrick Beverley,

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Speaker 1: these these kind of guys in this roster, the offensive

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Right now, they're just like a puncher's chance

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Speaker 1: We're gonna learn about all these teams and I'm hoping

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