1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Fail Round the League Podcast trust sources with knowledge of 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: the situation. Welcome back to another edition of the Around 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: the League Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: am joined by a room full of heroes, Chris Westling, 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys? He wanted 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: the nickname No nicknames this time? The nicknames? I think 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm thinking I'm toying with the idea of tacking the 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: nicknames on the back end when we say goodbye, and 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: then giving you guys your proper names up top. What 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: do you think that seems? That seems like a fine idea. 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: Dan seems like he's getting more and more hosty with 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: each show, adding little elements I like it. Before you 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: know it, Dan will leave us and he'll be uh 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: starting nfl am every morning. It might reach the guys, 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: It might reach a point where I am giving no 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: actual football analysis and you guys are doing all the 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: heavy lifting, which actually sounds about right. Um. So today, 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: big big news on the on the A t L page, 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: we rolled out one of our season preview features and 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: this is a doozy uh and we could have ramped 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: it up and ramped toward the m v P but Greg, 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: our boss, decided, let's start with the heat, our envy, 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: our most valuable player predictions in the NFL and the 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen seasons. Lyle are around the league in 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: turn produced the page. But we have our four five 26 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: picks with our new man, Kevin Patra based over in 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: Chicago Sugartown. So I guess we could start. How do 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: we want to do this? Do we want to just 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: go around the horn here? Yeah? All right, let' see 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: it's organized alright, And I guess I guess I'll start 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: because I I chose. I guess mine was kind of 32 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: the wild card here. Um, I could end up looking horrible, 33 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: but you know who cares. I took Andrew Luck of 34 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: the Colts. Um. As I've said on this podcast, I 35 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: love the Colts offense this year. I love Colt. I 36 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: love Luck as a trend ENDNT type Hall of Fame 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: type dude despite being just twenty three years old. And 38 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: I think he has everything in place, and I think 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: he has the targets with Reggie, Wayne t Y Hilton, 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: Darius Sayward Bay, Dwayne Allen, Kobe Fleaner. I love if 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: a mod bradshow is healthy. What he brings to that 42 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: team both as a runner, receiver and even a blogger. 43 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, most of all, I like, Oh, 44 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: I also like Pep Hamilton's there. I think that's a 45 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: good fit. But most of all, I like the look 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: Luck has. The look he has that he looks like 47 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame guy, and he seemed like that 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: at Radio City Music Hall in two thousand twelve. He 49 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: seemed like he was going to be a star. It 50 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: was destined, and I think this is the year where 51 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: he becomes that guy. As I wrote in my piece, 52 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: the uh last guy to win the m v P 53 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: in his second full year was Dan Reno and eighty four, 54 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: I think it happens in two thousand thirteen Andrew Luck. 55 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: I was a big fan of your Damn Marino comparison. 56 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: I like that a lot. It was a bold pick, 57 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: but I liked it a lot. And I could see 58 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: it because he threw so many passes last year. That 59 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: kind of helps when it comes to statistics and m 60 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: v P voting. And I think the same thing is 61 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: going to happen again, much better than you're running back 62 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: ranking Andrew Luck. He's got to be like the coolest 63 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: nerd in America right now, right he I think that's fair. 64 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: He actually he's almost like a evolutionary type Peyton Manning, 65 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: where he's almost a cool geek and he'll be on 66 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: some love. I could see he's both cooler and geekier 67 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: than Peyton Manning. That makes sense, and I see that 68 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: five years, six years from now he is the face 69 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: of the lead. Interesting about him too, You see Kaepernick 70 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: is on every commercial right now, Russell Wilson's on commercials. 71 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: R G three is everywhere. I have not seen one 72 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: single commercial with Andrew Luck. Indianapolis factor is part of it. 73 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: I think he's just all football all the time. But 74 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: Manning broke through that. I know, you know he was. 75 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: He was always a guy in commercials and he was 76 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: playing in the same market. Oh, I think it's more 77 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: than Andrew Luck doesn't want to do the commercial at 78 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: this point in his career. I think you're right, and 79 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: maybe he's conscious of something. I'm I'm with you Dan 80 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: on Luck being that special. But I do wonder we're 81 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: putting so much on this kid. Ron Drosky has him 82 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: so high you think m v P. You know he 83 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: did have completion rating last year twenty three touchdowns eighteen interceptions, 84 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: so we're expecting him to really get a lot better. 85 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: It's it's high expectations. I would attribute the majority of 86 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: that completion percentage to Bruce Arians aggressive downfield attack, which 87 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: is much harder complete passes, and the fact that he 88 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: was always throwing on the run or with three defenders 89 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: hanging off of him because his offensive line can give 90 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: me any any protection. I think, like with the Academy Awards, 91 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: they take a young actor and they like to give 92 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: him right out of the gate and nomination or flat 93 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: out an oscar and it kind of paves the way 94 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: for his career. And I view the MVP well, I 95 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: look at like what they did with like Damon an 96 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: affleck out of the gate right away. It's perfect example 97 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence last year. Mean it happens. That's marketing, and 98 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not saying the m v P Award 99 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: is pure marketing. But I do think that all these 100 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: awards to some degree are a bit of a sham. 101 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: And uh, well, I just I do. I don't put 102 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: that much on them. But luck fits the bill perfectly 103 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: because a it's not a fluke, he is. We all 104 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: sort of seem to agree. He is the kind of 105 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: player that projects as a Hall of Fame quarterback. Potentially, 106 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: he's on a team that's really well set up to 107 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: go back to the playoffs when a lot of people 108 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: doubt that. And finally, it's like, talk about coornating your 109 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: next big quarterback star, right, and don't forget about his 110 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: fifty eight year old dad flips cell phone, which I 111 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: think he somehow works into this beyond his years. Okay, 112 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: so look that's me. Let's go with Cessler Mark Sessler. 113 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: Who are you picking? Well, I want to speak for 114 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Patra and myself, although we may be I am 115 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: because we picked the same player. That's where I'll stop 116 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: speaking for him. But I'm going to the other end 117 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: of the spectrum Tom Brady, because number one Tom Brady 118 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: is a guy that could have been m v P 119 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: multiple other times. And it's like again, like with other 120 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: awards show things, they want to keep picking someone new. 121 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: There has to be a nice storyline. Bill Belichick could 122 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: have been Coach of the Year eight times by now, 123 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: But let's pick you know, the cozy underdog narrative to 124 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: hoy stuff of the year, go to the cult slash 125 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: or whatever it is you want. And for me, honestly, 126 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: like I, I look at Brady and he it's not 127 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: a it's not a sympathy vote. I view him still 128 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: physically and the way he leads that offense as an 129 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: m v P level performer, and I think he's well 130 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: set up in New England when everyone, you know, two 131 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: months ago, it was this is a team that finally 132 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: has been stripped of enough weapons and gone through enough 133 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: this offseason where hey, listen, we question if there's still 134 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: the team in the a f C East. Not this 135 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: has happened before the Patriots. Is it eleven years in 136 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: a row that they could have double digit wins? And 137 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: they're overlooked that way? And in a way, I just 138 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: think that Manning or Brady, if he comes through this 139 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: season with another playoff appearance, and I expect him to 140 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: do more than just make the playoffs. That for me, 141 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: that's my m v P and I'm not afraid to 142 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: say it. I think he is the best quarterback of 143 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: my lifetime personally. Haven't we almost come full circle? Though? 144 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: On the on the hype with Brady it went from 145 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, the guy with all the weapons too now 146 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: he has nothing left but now we were talking ourselves 147 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: into all these new options he has that almost he's 148 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: not he's no longer playing from behind again. Well, there's 149 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: still are we talking about from preseason game? Is he 150 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: still an underdog pick as m VP is at this point? 151 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: Are we all confident that he's gonna automatically turn this 152 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: team into a bunch of productive media? Is gonna latch 153 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: onto the air and Hernandez stuff and say, look what 154 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: he overcame the ground conk grown Cowski injury. Even if 155 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: we're confident now and Kembrill, Tompkins and Subfield, the people 156 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: voting for the m v P are gonna love the 157 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: storyline of over coming those tight ends as they should. 158 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that was their offense last year along with 159 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: Wes Welker. I love what Mark said about a narrative, 160 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: and I do think that's why Luck and Tom Brady 161 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: both makes sense because they have the carry your team 162 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: on your back factor, which always seems to play a 163 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: big role. Adrian Peterson last year is a good example 164 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: where you look at Peyton Manny and Aaron Rodgers and 165 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: maybe they have to do extra to get as much 166 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: credit as Brady and Luck will be for carrying their teams. 167 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: Brady will enter Week one with eight percent of his 168 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: receptions gone from the roster from last year. He should 169 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: get extra credit. That's well, there's been a lot of 170 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: stories out there. Oh, Hernandez can be made up for, 171 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, the losses in here and there. But bottom line, 172 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: it's like the Patriots haven't been an up and down operation. 173 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: They've been completely steady. View and as the reason this 174 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: won't be one of the three or four best years 175 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: of Brady's career. That's why I don't think he'll win 176 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: envy and will he throw an off to keep pace 177 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: with some of the other quarterbacks that will be in 178 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: this debate for Evy, Yes, he's gonna throw. It's Tom Brady. 179 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: They're gonna agree. And I think for the first until 180 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving of last year, here I thought, watching tape every week, 181 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: he was the best quarterback in the league. Al Right, West, 182 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: you have the favorite pick late on us. I picked 183 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers just because simple reason he's the best player 184 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Alright, Greg, You're no, No, that's I 185 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: mean that to me? That makes sense. Yeah, I think 186 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: you could argue that the last two years he's throwing 187 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: the ball better than any quarterback in NFL history ever. 188 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: Has Dan gave me, you know, grief because I couched 189 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: my pick a little bit that I said Rogers should 190 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: be the favorite throughout his prime each year, just as 191 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: the most likely guy, because he's that good, he's that talented, 192 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: and he's right in the middle of his prime. But 193 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: I went another way. But Greg's couch has made entirely 194 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: of Rogers jerseys that I can't argue. That's that's a 195 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: long way of saying I can't argue with West well, 196 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: and you could also throw in the I. I think 197 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: we all expect the running game in their defense to 198 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: be better than last year. And you gotta win. To 199 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,119 Speaker 1: win the m v P, you have to make the playoffs. 200 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: That's just part of it. And I know, Cecil, you 201 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: actually picked the Packers not to make the playoffs. Do 202 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: you do you feel that part of that will be 203 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: Rogers coming down to earth a little bit? No, And 204 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: I think I I hope I mentioned that last time 205 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: when we discussed the NFC North Rogers. I'm ranked him 206 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: as the number one quarterback in football. Over the summer, 207 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: nothing has changed my opinion of him. He's completely an 208 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: m VP level corn to figure out, um, what is 209 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: going to cause the Packers to miss the playoffs in 210 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: your view? And the only thing and come up with 211 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: the Bermuda triangle is somehow involved in this. Remember I 212 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: mentioned that like a metaphor, I had a metaphysical feeling 213 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: of ugliness. That's something strange was gonna happen. So if 214 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: you're looking on paper and for what's come before, you're right, 215 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: it doesn't exist. How about the dbs starting at tackle uh, 216 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: David backdri and Don Barclay that that's a reason that 217 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: they might not do great? Yeah, but still even if 218 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: the defense is bad, if you have and using mark 219 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: your logic, if you have the best quarterback in the 220 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: world at the height of his powers, how do you 221 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: not make it through the regular seas a metaphysical dark spot? Here? 222 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: You keep going to like mathematical ecouch. Can you argue 223 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: against that kind of trump cars just listen, you know, yeah, logically, 224 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: if you want me to just give you my computer 225 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: predictions for the season they make the playoffs, I'm not 226 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: using that. I'm using a feeling I have that they're 227 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: going to go nine and seven. I'll probably be wrong. 228 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: Is it like the last Batman movie where Baine explodes 229 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: the middle of lambeau Field or something and asking me 230 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: something that just floats in the ether. It caught my attention. 231 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna pay attention to this because it's 232 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: like an X Files episode. Did police investigators call you 233 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: and I ask you for psychological intervention? Actually that's not 234 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: a bad idea. If this checks out, we're calling the 235 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: Culver City Police Department. Um, do we have anything else? 236 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: Or do you want to throw to Gregg? My pick 237 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: is Ben Roethlisberger. I've talked him up all offseason as 238 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: one of the most underrated quarterbacks in the league. I 239 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: still think if you look at his career arc two 240 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: time champion, he's had some great years, he's been hurt. 241 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: He still has. To me, when I look, once his 242 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: season is over, I can see him having that year 243 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: where it just all comes together perfectly. And to me, 244 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: this makes sense is that year he's at that sweet 245 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: spot where his mind has started to catch up with 246 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: his body and his body hasn't broken down yet. He 247 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: still has his physical traits to get out of tackles. 248 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: He's still got maybe the best deep arm in the league, 249 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: and he's a much smarter quarterback than he used to be. 250 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: He's got Todd Haley willing to throw the ball deep, 251 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: and uh, I think the Steelers are going to be 252 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: a surprisingly good team. So then he gets the m 253 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: v P votes. See, I think that's a gut sier pick. 254 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: Then luck because the Steelers, well, I apologize to the 255 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: Steelers do not have a sense around their offense that 256 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: they're about to take a step forward. Everyone's talking about 257 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: a step back potentially for the now. We both picked 258 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: them as to win the division I believe a couple 259 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. But Roethlisberger last season through midway of 260 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: the season wasn't was playing at an m VP level. 261 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: He was phenomenal during the early part of last year. 262 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: So I like that pick myself. This is like the 263 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: seventh straight year you've picked roethlis to pick him to 264 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: do it once. Give me a break. Last week, big 265 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: Ben made some throws down the field that we're just incredible. 266 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: And for all the talk about Todd Haley being dinking 267 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: dunk offense, I don't think Big Ben's gonna let it 268 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: be a dinking dunk offense. And I think the guys 269 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: that usually put in conversation with Big Ben when you 270 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: hear people talk about him, Eli Manning used to hear 271 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: Rivers and Big Ben is so much better than those 272 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: guys Flacco. He is head and shoulders above that. He 273 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: belongs in the Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron 274 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: Rogers category. He's that good and he has the same 275 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: advantage as Luck and Brady in terms of the narrative 276 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: that the lower low expectations. If they do well, it 277 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: will be seen as Ben really raising up the level 278 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: of some poor teams. Right. I think he's going to 279 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: need Heath Miller to come back healthy and Marcus Wheaton 280 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: to emerge as kind of a dangerous playmaker as the 281 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: number three. Recently, you could argue he's lost almost as 282 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: much as Brady has to some degree until Miller returns, 283 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: because you lost Mike Wallace, and frankly, they they draft 284 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: Bell to re shape that running game. The guy is 285 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: out of the picture for a month or whatever it is, 286 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: and what they have in the backfield is completely vanilla 287 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: and unreliable. And again it falls on Big Ben shoulders 288 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: to take the Steelers wherever they go. And my only concern, 289 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: and even though he's only missed Uh, I guess four games. 290 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: The last two seasons, he's had two pretty bad injuries. 291 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: It was an ankle I think in eleven, and then 292 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: last year was a shoulder. UM. If he could play sixteen, 293 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna win the m v people we're talking about 294 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: m v P. He's gonna have to stay healthy the 295 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: whole time because he's gonna need the number. UM. Alright, 296 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: So that was our m v P talk. Crystal Rich 297 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: behind the glass. How are you today? I'm very well. 298 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: How are you guys? We're doing great. Uh. We got 299 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: a big task for you today. I'm ready for it. Uh. 300 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: The news around the league news, Crystal Rich is gonna 301 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: handle it. She's gonna take those reins and take us 302 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: through the league. Alright. Starting off, Green Bay Packers news, 303 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: running back Duwan Harris out for the year. Reinjured his 304 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: right knee. What does that mean for Mike McCarthy and 305 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: the Packers. McCarthy was downright disconsolate, crest falling at the 306 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: press conference yesterday. This is the one of the favorite emotion. 307 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: This is one of his favorite players he's ever coach. 308 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: You can tell he he has taken a vested personal 309 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: interest in Duan Harris and said he was a huge 310 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: part of what his individual focused was for the whole, 311 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: for the offense for two thousand and thirteen, everybody assumed 312 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: Lacie was going to be the guy he wanted, that 313 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: one two punch of Lacey and Harris. I don't know 314 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: that anybody believe McCarthy, but McCarthy fully believe that. I 315 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: believe him after that press conference, because yes, he was 316 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: touting Harris for weeks and it was like, all right, 317 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: but we we kind of feel like you're pumping this 318 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: player up, encouraging him, but we don't really know necessarily 319 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: what the Packers planned to do deeper in the season. 320 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: It's it's not out of the realm of possibility that 321 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: Lacey was going to be part of a committee with 322 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: him and that Harris really won over McCarthy. It's a loss, 323 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: but I do think because of the draft and the 324 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: way they restopped, it's not a devastating loss from so 325 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: go back and watch Harris run last year. Though, if 326 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: you didn't know he was a guy that was undrafted 327 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: and then kind of came up waivers, he would have 328 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: looked like a first or second round talent. He looked 329 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: really good and I think McCarthy must see a big 330 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: drop off from Harrison Lacy to whoever is next, So 331 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: he was looking at those two big guys as a 332 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: one to combo. Alright, Crystal, what else is in the news? 333 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: All right? Now? This one's a good one. Linebacker Aaron Curry, 334 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: recently released by the New York Giants, announced his retirement 335 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: via Twitter. Is this the new trend? Is it not 336 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: a real retirement? Is it not ligitimate? Did not come 337 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: out on Twitter first? I think it just says where 338 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: he's at in his career. He's not on a team, 339 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: And he was the number four pick in the two 340 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: thousand and nine draft, and it's the middle of August, 341 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: and he has no other way to announce his retirement 342 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: other than Twitter. And he was supposed to be one 343 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: of the safest picks of the I mean, he's one 344 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: of the biggest busts of the last ten years. How 345 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: about that two draft? Pretty bleak? Well? I mean we 346 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: looked at it today in the news room and it 347 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: was like, you go through the first seven picks and 348 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: if not deeper than that, you want to read him off. 349 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know if I'm doing it off the 350 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: top of my head. But Stafford was number one, so 351 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: it's we're okay there. It started out fine. Smith number two, 352 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: so I used this glowing box in front of me 353 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: the information number two. That's a disaster. Tyson Jackson's number three. 354 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: That's pretty bad, although he's still on the team, so 355 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: he's better than some of the other guys. Uh. Number 356 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: four in that draft for was Aaron Curry. Number five 357 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: is Mark Sanchez, and it's sad that Mark Sanchez is 358 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: the second best player in the top five and the 359 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: Jets traded up for him. Andre Smith, to a lot 360 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: of people thought would have been a bust. What came 361 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: number six? He's been good? And then Darius Heyward Bay 362 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: number seven. But this is all off the top of 363 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: Greg's head. The second half of that draft has the 364 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: best player in the draft. The second half of the 365 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: first round Clay Matthews plus Kim Nixon, Percy Harvin, and 366 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: I guess the first half has basically Matthew, Stafford and 367 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: Brian Cushing. Yeah, Cushing smack Cleveland. But it just it 368 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: just goes to show how you never know anything with 369 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: the draft. Curry was supposed to be a really smart 370 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: athletic player that was like, I can't miss the Lions 371 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: were negotiating with him and Stafford for the number one pick. 372 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: They were kind of using Curry, you know, to leverage Stafford. 373 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: They were gonna take him, and then you know, now 374 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: it's four years later, he's out of league and two 375 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: k Rich's point, Uh, it is a retirement because his 376 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: career is over. I don't care what you use a 377 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: fact or go snail mail. It's over al right, guys. Next, 378 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: Mr Patriots released cornerback Razi Dowling. What does this mean 379 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: for the Pats secondary? If anything, it just means they're 380 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: terrible at drafting defensive backs. He wasn't going to make 381 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: the team. I mean, he wasn't going to be a factor. 382 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: But it's just a reminder how bad they've been drafting 383 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: defensive backs over the year. Well, and they talked about 384 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: here's the great thing about New England. The year before, 385 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: they swapped out a pick so that they could get 386 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: a much higher picked than following season to take downing. 387 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: But when they actually had to make the pick and 388 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: it's a defensive back, New England can't close the deal. 389 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: They can't seem to get that right. What else Crystal alright. 390 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones, son of Dallas Cowboys owner, says that the 391 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys have a get this secret sauce for an NFL title. 392 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: Now I like to cook. Can I get the recipe 393 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: from my Eagles? I don't know you want that recipe either, 394 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: but you definitely don't want the Cowboys recipe. Greg, you 395 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: have the recipe, right? Yeah? I wanted to ask what 396 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: is in this secret sauce? But I'll take a gander 397 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: at it. Um terrible self scouting over rating your own players. Um, 398 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: you gotta throw in some dead cat money. I think 399 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: that's important. Uh, a lot of self made hype. I 400 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: think that that's crucial. Um, no depth, make sure don't 401 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: add any depth to the mix. I think believing your 402 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: own publicity. Did you say that it was kind of 403 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 1: in there? How about a flock of incriminating photos of 404 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: high up executives at every network that decides who plays 405 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: football games on primetime? Well take a shot. Well the rating, 406 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: but over your shoulder right now. Uh. You also need 407 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: a head coach that is not that strong, and you 408 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: need a lot of writers to fall for your hype 409 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: every year, no matter how many times Dan and I 410 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: have been burned, that we didn't come back in. But 411 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: I've been burned so many times predicting great things for 412 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Okay, so, Chris Law, you have a very 413 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: very high Wonderlick score for your first news reading. What 414 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: is the highest one score ever? The best you can do? Yes? Okay, Next, 415 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: before we get into our division previews, wes uh, you 416 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: want to talk a little pupulist. What what? What shall 417 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: we be looking for? Give me some puplist do a 418 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: publist round up. I'll give you four names, four guys 419 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: who are put on the publist this week. Tell me 420 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: which one is the most important player? Who was the 421 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: biggest loss Percy Harvin, Michael Crabtree, Jonathan Stewart or j Ratliffe. 422 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: Well for the season, I think it's harvn Um. I 423 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: think they'll survive without him, but I just think he 424 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 1: was going to be such a big part of what 425 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: they do. I think the other teams, can you know, 426 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: recover better than the Seahawksville Oh sorry, go ahead. Well, 427 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: initially I was gonna go Harvan, but I think it's 428 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: Crabtree because I think even this in the in the 429 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: last month or two, we've seen that Seattle is stronger 430 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: wide receiver than we initially thought, and their defense is 431 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: in my mind every bit potentially as good as the Niners. 432 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: Losing crab Tree, I don't see that they've replaced him 433 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: in any way in San Francisco. You don't like Marlin Moore. 434 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: I like Marlon Moore, but you're talking about fourteen days ago. 435 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: I would have known who that come. Don't like him 436 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: at all? No, I don't like him. Can I ask 437 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: you kind of a spin off of that question, which 438 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: of those guys has the best chance to make any 439 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: type of tangible impact this season? Wow, that's a good question, 440 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: I would guess, and again Ratliffe, Jonathan Stewart, crab Tree, 441 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: and Harvard. I don't what's going on with Ratliff. It 442 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: seemed it was such a bad idea to keep him, 443 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: and this this one we first guessed on around the league. 444 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: Right when they brought him back. We said, this is 445 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: crazy that they're paying a guy who was injured, who 446 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: got in a yelling match with the team owner, he 447 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: was unhappy, played really bad. I do you. I forgot 448 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: about the du It sounds like some relationships I've had, 449 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: and they and they brought it back for five million, 450 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: and now he's he's upset or he's hinting at being 451 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: upset with the Cowboys training staff. They don't know if 452 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: he's definitely gonna be back this year at all. I 453 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: would say Harvard has the best chance of impacting the playoffs. 454 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: Maybe Jonathan Stewart has the best chance of being backed 455 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: by Halloween. Yeah, I think Jonathan Stewart will be back first, 456 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: but I would go with Harvin because his injuries not 457 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: as serious. I don't think it's and they did have 458 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: months of install and practices with harvn on the field. 459 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: They've tucked some of that away, but everyone has seen 460 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: Harvan on that on that team, they practiced with him, 461 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: played with him. I think that he could be a 462 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: complete X factor in January if the Seahawks get where 463 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: we think they'll be. And I'm not putting much stock 464 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: into Crabtree having a real impact. We saw how Sugs 465 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: came back from that injury. Who was heavier, he was slow, 466 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: and crab Tree has to be explosive. It sucks tendon 467 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: was partially torn. Crab Trees is fully torn. It's coming 468 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: back from a more serious injury than sucks. I don't 469 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: love hip injuries either for Harvin doesn't sound too fun, 470 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: but he's got a long time Also, your favorite baseball 471 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: player a Rod. So you have an issue with I 472 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: have no idea what you're talking about anything else with Papa. 473 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: We're popped out, all right. Okay, So we have reached 474 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: our penultimate division preview, the NFC South. That was a 475 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: Westling like word. They're penultimate enough to two dollar word 476 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: right there. Um, we are on the NFC South, and 477 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: I guess we could start with one big question, Chris Westling. 478 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep rolling with Chris. Okay, we've talked about 479 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: this idea we have that there is this transcendent group 480 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks and they can take their team to the 481 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: playoffs year in and year out because they're that good. 482 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: The Saints couldn't do it last year, and we've said 483 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: Joan Payton was a factor. I don't believe it they 484 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: can do it this year because the defense simply isn't 485 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: talented enough. Do you guys believe their defense is good 486 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: enough to get to the playoffs this year? I do 487 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: uh not to give away our predictions, but I've got 488 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: them winning the division because we've talked about if Peyton 489 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: makes a difference. It won seven games with the worst defense, 490 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: one of the worst defenses in NFL history. I think 491 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: they can improve enough. Although they're testing me with all 492 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: these injuries, it's making it harder to pick this team. 493 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: I think they can improve enough where you know what 494 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: you're getting with Drew Brees in. That offense and that 495 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: running game could be really good. I think their offense 496 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: is the most impressive thing in this entire division, and 497 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: it will carry them through how how devastating do you 498 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: think it is losing both Victor Butler and Will Smith 499 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: are two outside landbackers. Where those guys true impact guys 500 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: that they are not gonna be able to replace. Do 501 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: they have the depth where it will be that much 502 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: of a drop off? I would say they were both 503 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: question marked people. People were excited about Victor Butler and 504 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: his first chance at a starting job up, but nobody 505 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: knows how he would do. And Will Smith is a 506 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: three or four defensive end, not a or a four 507 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: three defensive end, not a three four outside linebacker. I 508 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: put Coleman ahead of of Will Smith in terms of 509 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: and I don't think that Coleman is a is a 510 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: great player, but he was brought on as he's been 511 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: with Ryan before, to teach that defense to all these 512 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 1: guys who have no experience in the three four. The 513 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: injuries there, I can't think of a team that's been 514 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: more ransacked with injuries to the point where I'm not 515 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: sure they can even do close to what Rex Ryan 516 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: thought they were gonna do. Jonathan Wilmot, not that I 517 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: expected him to help them that much at all, but 518 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: he was expected to start, and we don't know when 519 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: he's going to be back. It wouldn't surprise me if 520 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 1: he does not play much this season at all. So 521 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: that's four starters in your front seven. Yeah, none of 522 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: them were that exciting, but they were still the guys 523 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: you were planning to start. So they're back. I mean, 524 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: legend on the field, Junior Gallet, You're guy, Chris Wesseley, Ryan, 525 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: Rob Ryan's all Pro. Maybe it's because he was a Jet, 526 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: but doesn't it feel like Jonathan of Film has been 527 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: the league for twenty seven years? Yeah, has been, although 528 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: it's hard to like link him to the Jets at 529 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: this point. I think he's been so important to the Saints, 530 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: but I don't think he's a great player for them 531 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: at this point on any level? Do you want to 532 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: make a case for the Saints defense. Ryan's been good 533 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: with secondaries, and they have Keenan Lewis, Malcolm Jenkins, Vaccaro, 534 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: who am I forgetting? Jabari Greer has been very good, 535 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: could be an okay second could be a good second 536 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,239 Speaker 1: could be. But they have a long way to go 537 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: from last year when they were the worst secondary and 538 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: what the NFL history? Yeah, Mark, you're just depressing this 539 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: former New Orleans resident. Mark it us a question about 540 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. All right with Tampa Bay, you know, 541 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: I really I actually like the Bucks more than a 542 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: lot of people. I think there's a lot of intriguing 543 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: talent there. They got rivas on defense, have got a 544 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: great secondary. I love Doug Martin, I love the receivers. Obviously. 545 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: The question mark there, and it has been for a while, 546 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: is Josh Freeman. And I am one guy that does 547 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: not buy Greg Schiano's months of trying to repair his 548 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: at least statements that Freeman's his guy. I know he 549 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: keeps saying that. But when I looked at Mike glennan 550 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: I watched each of these Bucks games, I really like 551 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: glenn and I think that they drafted him to fit 552 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: their system, and I'm wondering does he finished the season 553 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: as the team's starter. I'm gonna say, yes, Um, I'm 554 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: finished believing in Josh Freeman. And I'm with you. What 555 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: Greg Ciano said coming out of the season was fresh. 556 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: He didn't believe in Josh Freeman. He wanted somebody better, 557 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: and that's Mark Dominic's guys, not if he's not Greg 558 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: Cianno's guy. I don't know. To me, there's some kind 559 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: of chasm there. There's some kind of division between Siano 560 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: and Freeman. And I haven't seen enough out of Freeman 561 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,239 Speaker 1: to believe he's a franchise quarterback. Yeah, I don't think 562 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: the team believes in him anymore, and I think because 563 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: of that, he's gonna have a short leash. And if 564 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: he if they are two and four and they like 565 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: Glennon as much as we think they do, I think 566 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna say, what do we have to lose? You know, 567 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: Freeman think it would happen much later in the year. 568 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: It's he's a tough guy to a value. We did 569 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: the top ten quarterbacks under twenty five and look, Mike 570 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: Glennon's I don't know if he's ever gonna put together 571 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: a half of football like Josh Freeman put together. Uh 572 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: in some of those comebacks the Saints comes to mind, 573 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm forgetting another one where he just was a bond 574 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: on fire and he and he reminds you of Ben 575 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger at his peak. That's who he reminds me of. 576 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if Glennon has that upside. So I 577 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: think Glennon is the quarterback only if they're three games 578 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: under five hundred at some point this season. When that happens, 579 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: then maybe I think it would be a December thing. 580 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: You've got a quarterback without a contract next year in Freeman. 581 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: If they're five and eight or six and nine in December, 582 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: why not give glenn Why why not give glenn In 583 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: a game or two to see what he has. Yeah, 584 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 1: they need to be out of the picture because if 585 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: they're in it, cause you know, last year, at one 586 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: point they had a winning record beyond the midpoint of 587 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: the season and they were surging and they were becoming 588 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: this kind of hot story and then Freeman completely nose 589 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: dived and so did the rest of the team, And yeah, 590 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: I could see a switch happening myself, just because I 591 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: think West nailed it. This is the guy Shiano brought in, 592 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: and whenever you inherit a quarterback, it's not good news 593 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: for that quarterback if he's not playing at a supreme level. Alright, Greg, 594 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: give us a question on the Carolina Panthers. Mine's gonna 595 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: be at quarterback as well. And just with all the 596 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks last year, the rookies and then Kaepernick breaking out, 597 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: Cam Newton, you know, wasn't a big as big a 598 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: focus as he was his rookie year. I just want 599 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: to know what are your expectations for Cam Newton this year. 600 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about Newton coming out and the 601 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: team getting off to a slow start and going through 602 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: that funk again where the team ends up getting buried 603 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: and then he puts his his season together. Statistically, I'm 604 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: not sold on him in terms of his uh ability 605 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: to overcome yet, and until I see him come out 606 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: strong or react well to adversity, I still think he's 607 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: a guy that plays has to when the stakes are lowest. 608 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: I don't question Cam Newton in terms of his ability 609 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: to surpass what he did statistically in the first two seasons. 610 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: I think he could do that. But I think that 611 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: the Panthers have an issue. At the last two seasons 612 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: under Newton, They've started like two and six or something 613 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: and then surged down the stretch when the games they 614 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: were in didn't matter. It's like the team loosened up. 615 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: The Panthers need to learn how to compete early in 616 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: the year, and that has a lot to do with 617 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: Newton leading them. Um, I'm not gonna get on the 618 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: whole Cam Newton leadership thing because I think he's made 619 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: a lot of strides in that area. But to answer 620 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: your question, Greg, I don't have a problem with Cam 621 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: Newton putting on a better season this season than last year. 622 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: I think he could do it. The Panthers are on 623 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: my shortlist of the team slow playing the rest of 624 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: the league in the preseason with vanilla office offense. The Rams, 625 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and the Eagles are absolutely doing it, and 626 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: I think the Panthers are too, which I guess as 627 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: I have more confidence in Mike Shuler than I than 628 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: I should. Well, let's back up on Cam Newton. After 629 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: rookie year, the expectations for him were not that different 630 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: than what we're talking about with Andrew Luck and Robert 631 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: Griffin the third and Russell Wilson that that was the 632 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: kind of quarterback we thought Cam Newton was. And if 633 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: if he is that kind of quarterback, aren't they going 634 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: to be pretty good this year? You know they have 635 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: they have some talent on defense, especially up front. They 636 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: have Cam Newton in his third year. I think the 637 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: Panthers are in expectations be high, is what I guess. Yes, 638 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: they should, and I honestly would. I think the Panthers 639 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: are the kind of team that if they went ten 640 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: and six or eleven and five, who really would be 641 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: that surprised. I mean, on paper, I I see holes 642 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: all over the place, but I could see them doing 643 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: that at the same time I could see them going 644 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: four and twelve. He absolutely belongs in the same discussion 645 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: with Luck Wilson, r G three and Kaepernick. To me, 646 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: the one thing, and this is this goes back to 647 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: his slow starts. He has a tangible fault. He has 648 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: the worst footwork in the NFL of any quarterback safe. 649 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: If you watch his feet, he's a lot of times 650 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: throws flat footed and he doesn't put his whole body 651 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: into the and it's it's like that throughout the whole game. 652 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 1: He just has awful footwork and to go along with that, 653 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: he has the worst accuracy of that top five young 654 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: quarterback group. And that because what a lot of people 655 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: blame on Cam Newton's leadership, though I blame on Ron Rivera, 656 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: not a not a good game manager at all. They 657 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: lose a lot of close games and I think that 658 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: comes back to coach well, and that's one. That's one point. 659 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: I can't think of a coach that's on a hotter 660 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: hot seat than Rivera, and that team could potentially splin 661 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: spin completely out of control, throwing Newton's entire season off 662 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: two with it. You just don't know. Okay, So the Falcons, 663 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: I'll finish with them. Uh. They were the best team 664 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: in the division last year, came within what five yards 665 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: of a Super Bowl appearance last year? Um, they have 666 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: most of their cast back, all their key guys, and 667 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: yet why does it feel like they're being overlooked as 668 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender this year? Everybody's looking to the 669 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: NFC West. Is it fair that no one seems to 670 00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: be taking the Falcon seriously? It's go ahead, you go. 671 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: I think it's unfair. I think they proved last year, 672 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: they were one of the better teams. They were one 673 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: play away from the Super Bowl. Now we don't know 674 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: if Matt Ryan would have even been able to play 675 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, but he says he would have 676 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: been they were one play away. I think they got 677 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: better on offense. You can you can debate that because 678 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: of the offensive line questions, and I think they're a 679 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: little bit more talented and inexperienced on defense. But what 680 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: do we think is the real Falcons team? Is that 681 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: the team that was skating by winning a ton of 682 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 1: close games, often against pretty bad teams in the regular season, 683 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: or the team that played pretty well in the playoffs 684 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: against very good competition. Although you know, let's not forget 685 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: really could have easily blown that game against Seattle, I 686 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: mean had an epic choke that they made up for 687 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: with two plays. To me, there, it's not unfair to 688 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: overlook them because I don't think they're as talented as 689 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: the other top teams. I don't think their defense is 690 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: that good, and I think it's a really tough division, 691 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: and it it's total sense to me that they would 692 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: come back to the pack. I think their defense is 693 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: a big question mark compared to when you look at 694 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: Seattle in San Francisco. I think you know it was 695 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 1: a year ago that Atlanta had not proven to anyone 696 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: that they could do anything in January, and we're still 697 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: getting used to the fact that, honestly, that first half 698 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: ACA in San Francisco, they were nearly perfect. They played 699 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: a wonderful half of football, and they yes, they came 700 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: a play away from the Super Bowl. But there's the 701 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: NFC is top loaded right now, where if they were 702 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: in the a f C would be hard to ignore 703 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: the Falcons as a as a clear Super Bowl choice. 704 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: But in the NFC, there's just too much talent and 705 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't I don't take the Falcons over potentially to 706 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: other teams in that conference. Well, that's a really good setup. 707 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: Now as we go to the records for the division, 708 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,919 Speaker 1: and I'm really curious where you guys put Atlanta. We'll 709 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: start with Chris Wesseling. I have the Falcons in first 710 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: place at ten and six, the only team from the 711 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: division making the playoffs, Panthers in second place at nine 712 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: and seven, Saints in third place at eight and eight, 713 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: Buck bringing up the rear. The wheels come off the 714 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: wagon six and ten. Mark once again West and I 715 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: are on a party line here. I have the Falcons 716 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: at ten and six, the only playoff team. I have 717 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, however, at eight and eight second place, the 718 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 1: Saints going seven and nine, and the Panthers six and ten. 719 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: Rivera will not be coaching there a season from now. Okay. 720 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: I have the Falcons at twelve and four. I think 721 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: they'll have another big regular season. The Saints eight and eight. 722 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: I'm not buying in on that defense. Panthers eight and eight, 723 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: same thing. I have Newton Questions and the Bucks seven 724 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: and nine. I see those wheels coming off as well. 725 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: I feel actually I'm already regretting seven and nine. I'm 726 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: thinking more six and ten, but I'll stick with it. 727 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, we are all talking about 728 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: Sean Payton and we said how much is he worth? 729 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: Everyone said two or three wins. We didn't say which direction, 730 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 1: but no, no one has of winning anything. I do, though, 731 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 1: I have him winning the NFC South at ten and six. 732 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 1: I have the Carolina Panthers they really debated this as 733 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: my second wild card team at nine and seven. I 734 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: have the Falcons falling back to Earth at eight and eight. 735 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: By the way people don't talk about that. That was 736 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: one of the most devastating title game losses that you 737 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: could come up with. It's kind of like, oh, they 738 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: blew a seventeen point lead at home and everyone gives 739 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: them a good you know, a for effort, But what 740 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: about the Niners The year before that was worse. It's 741 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: got to kill falcons faded. I guess put the collective 742 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: stink on Michael Turner and sent him out of the 743 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: town quarters, out the door. It was somehow viewed as Okay, 744 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: they're making strides, but it's a killer. You don't get 745 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: chances like that too often up seventeen. I think they 746 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: won't get that chance this year, and I have the 747 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: bucks at five and eleven. I just don't really trust 748 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback and someone has to fall here because I 749 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: think it's a tough division. Okay, this would be the 750 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: part of the show where we talked about Tuesday's Hard Knocks, 751 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: But I am now the only at L letter who 752 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: watched the episode an hour down to uh just waiving 753 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: that segment out um on Friday. Why I can't call 754 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: you out for that. It's a DVR world tonight. Alright, 755 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: let's all watch it, and so we can talk about 756 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: the finale. Why don't we make a packed Everyone can 757 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: come over my house if they want. I don't have 758 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: a house. That's it. Well, now that I've finally been invited, 759 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: I will I won't show up, alright, good, alright, So yeah, Friday, 760 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: will do NFC West uh and anything else coming up 761 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: on Friday, Greg, I think that's it. I guess we'll 762 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: start looking ahead. We're not going to talk about the 763 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: fourth preseason week because you should never talk about it. 764 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: We've got a toaster on Friday normally, Oh well, yeah, 765 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: that will be a nice tease. There's a toaster involved 766 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: Friday potentially, but I feel good that a big toaster 767 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: competition is on tap um. Okay, so we'll see you 768 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: guys Friday. Thank you too, Kay Rich behind the glass, 769 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: the mailman, the sizzler, the boss signing off to see 770 00:38:52,520 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: you Friday.