1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that gets you 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: in touch with your Houston Texans here at NRG Stadium. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm Mark Vandermer with John Harris, and we are ready 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: to role on a fun Tuesday. We will play Who's Better. 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: We've got some vintage stuff. We have a Texans assistant 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: coach question that is going to be very difficult for 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: us emotionally and intellectually, so we'll have that for you 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: in the second segment. And we'll go around the league 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: because there's stuff always happening around the National Football League. 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: And Johnny, how are you doing today, my friend? I'm 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: doing well. Mark. It's been interesting to kind of listen 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: to the guys on six ten continue to play a 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: lot of bits and clips from our Coach Cully interview 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: from yesterday. But I thought it was a really cool 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: bookend in fact that Nickisario was always Shawn at seth 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: on six ten and then Coach Cully came on with 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: us in Texans Radio from six to seven last night, 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: betweet our six and seven every night. It was cool. 19 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: It was good to have, you know, those kind of bookends, 20 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: and they've been playing that. I get a lot of 21 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: mileads out of those two interviews for sure. So that's 22 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: been a good thing. Okay, yeah, they certainly have. And 23 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: I love catching up with coach Cully and I saw 24 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: him right here in the office yesterday. And you know, 25 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: they really don't go on much of a break, but 26 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: they try to unplug. He said it was important to unplug, 27 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: and obviously we go on less of a break. Radio 28 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: never stops. The show must go on. That's what I 29 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: told the coaches. The show must go on. And that 30 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: is always happening. I know. Next week I'm taking a 31 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: little time off. You're doing a bunch of shows, but 32 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: you got some great things going on. And the following 33 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: week good as well. As a matter of fact, Johnny, 34 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: as I take vander Kidd on the vander Mair reality 35 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: Tour in Boston, which is this could really backfire on me, 36 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: by the way, because I'm gonna take him and we're 37 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: gonna go to my alma mater, Boston University. I see 38 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: the hockey rank and everything. We're gonna go to BC. 39 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: I must have mentioned this on the air before, but 40 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: his grandfather, my father in law, was a ball boy 41 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: for Bob Kuzy when he was head coach at Boston 42 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: college and he never talks about it. I'd be talking 43 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: about no I should say manage, did I say manager 44 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: or ball boy man manager for Bob Coozy. I would 45 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: be talking about all day long. And We're gonna go 46 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: out to see you Mass and see a lot of 47 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: the schools in New England, and I'm kind of doing 48 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: it so he has perspective for when he starts to 49 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: look for schools here. But I'm kind of afraid that 50 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna backfire. He's gonna say, look, I gotta go 51 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: to school in Boston. Now. I used to tell my kids, well, 52 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: when I was teaching, not my own kids, but the 53 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: kids I was teaching, I used their parents who get 54 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: so mad at me because I'm like, look, you need 55 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: to go to Boston for college. I was like, if 56 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: you want to college experience, there are so many different 57 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: universities in the Boston area, and it is awesome. That's 58 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: where you should go. I mean, we were forty five 59 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: minutes away in Providence, and I had plenty of friends 60 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: from Boston. We went to Boston. I mean loved it. 61 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: It is the best place to go to college. I mean, 62 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: it's it's fantastic because it's so there's so many kids. 63 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: I mean, and just in Providence alone, I mean, we 64 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: had four or five schools and we were within forty 65 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: five minutes. So it's it's such a great place to 66 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: go to school. So I hope vander Kidd doesn't get 67 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: any ideas for your sake, but for his sake, they 68 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: hard pressed to find a lot of a lot of 69 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: other places that are not much better. And I hope 70 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: he gets a better vertical leap because that's something we 71 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: might need in order to make that happen. Okay, you 72 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: get to pick your segment. It's pick your segment day, 73 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: Johnny for you. All right, here are your choices, and 74 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: we'll do either one it we'll do either. One. First 75 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: thought is credits or debts. We're gonna do. Credits are 76 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: debits going into camp, assets that the team has, areas 77 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: that they need to look at and perhaps strengthen in 78 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: some way, shape or form, unless they completely materialize to 79 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: look great during training camp, because we really haven't seen 80 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: the real thing yet. We won't see the real thing 81 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: till September. But you get what I'm saying here, So 82 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: you get to do. Credits are debits the accounting sheet 83 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: you were a former accounting czar, and this is your job, 84 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: this is your career. A lot of people don't realize this. 85 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: I can't believe you ever actually did that. I have 86 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: visions of like Neo in the matrix, like you're totally 87 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: miserable and you need to like swallow the blue pill 88 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: or the red pill, whichever pill it is to enter 89 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: the football world again. Yeah. Yeah, I was wanting to 90 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: swallow a lot of red and blue pills. Yeah I was. Yeah, 91 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: it was interesting. It was sort of intriguing to learn 92 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: something new, but man, I was I was a fish 93 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: out of water for sure. Okay, So that that's a 94 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: That's why I like that option. That's one. The other 95 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: one is you've heard of the Magnificent seven, of course, 96 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: and I know you guys at your other radio station 97 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: with Seany when you do the afternoon show, used to 98 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: have Game seven. It was seven topics. But this is different. 99 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: This is called the Front seven, which is literally the 100 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: front seven of the Texans. And to go over possibilities, 101 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 1: things we might be seeing when the bullets start flying 102 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: metaphorically speaking in September, and rotational stuff. Because one thing 103 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: that Cassario said, and also Cully hinted on it was 104 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: a starters. Look, you do so much sub grouping here 105 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: in the NFL that you know you're playing guys all 106 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: over the place, never mind injuries even in the course 107 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: of a regular game. How how often are you really 108 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: in base? You're opening up in nickel, you're gonna be 109 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: in dime. Sometimes you're gonna mix and match configurations up 110 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: front in order to get after the passer. That kind 111 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: of thing. So we could talk front seven or go 112 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: credit or debit? Which one do you want to pick? Well, 113 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: let's go credit debit and see how much I remember 114 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: from my accounting days. It's a It's one of those 115 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: black holes, like did it really exist? Can I really 116 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: figure out a credit and debit now? I mean, Marilyn 117 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: Logan is just pulling her hair out right now, like 118 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: I can't believe this is happening. But she's also happy 119 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: because she's gonna see me probably make a fool of 120 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: myself saying a credit to debit's credit. But I think 121 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: I have the general the general take. Yes, I dropped 122 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: out of accounting in my sophomore year in order to 123 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: enter the world of communications, So I think I made 124 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: the right choice. I know I did. I couldn't handle it. 125 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: But Marilyn Logan, by the way, you mentioned her name, 126 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: she's the chief financial officer here, and she used to 127 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: work for the Oilers. I mean, she goes way back. 128 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: She used to work for Bud Adams, and I just 129 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: think it's great to get stories from her because she's 130 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: worked for Houston Pro Football. She's the longest running Houston 131 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: Pro Football employee. I think her and McClain have probably 132 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: been associated with Houston Pro Football longer than anybody. And 133 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: her name never gets mentioned, of course because she's behind 134 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: the scenes, but she's been heavily involved. All right, let's 135 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: do this. We're gonna go credit or devit now. I'm 136 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: gonna give you the offensive line. And I think that 137 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: this is a tremendous credit. This is an asset. This 138 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: is something on the positive side of the ledger. Because 139 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: I start thinking about this team and when I talk 140 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: to people outside of the building, and very often that's 141 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: kind of where a lot of things get flushed out 142 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: because you're not in the air, you're just having a conversation. 143 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: You start talking to people and you're thinking, you know, 144 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: there's more to this team than people think or see 145 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: or say, and I get that they don't know because 146 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: they don't know and we've seen very little. They seen nothing, right, 147 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: But the point is this, you look at the names 148 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: in play on the old line, I think that that's 149 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: on the credit side of the ledger. Am I right? Well, 150 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: considering that a debit increases your asset. What I thought 151 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: a debit is something you pay. I thought the credit 152 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: was as it pertains to accounting, a debit actually increases 153 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: an asset. So the debit side is cash, accounts, receivable 154 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: things that that increase the asset. Oh yeah, so it's 155 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: it's I think it's definitely. I think it's definitely a debit. 156 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: And if you if you think about the offense to me, 157 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: I think about it. You know, when you think about 158 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, the ballance and accounting, you're talking about a 159 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:57,119 Speaker 1: snapshot of time. What it is you know right now? 160 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: And I think, um, you know, the the income statement 161 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: is what has happened over a period of you know, 162 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: over a period of time, whether it's six months, nine months, 163 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: twelve months, whatever, however you track it. But it all 164 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: kind of flows together in some sense. But I think 165 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: what they've done on the offensive line, if you look 166 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: at it as sort of trans you know, transactionally. They 167 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: traded for Marcus Cannon, that was definitely raising the offensive line. 168 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: Um they went and got Justin Britt. I think that 169 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: was increasing the offensive line. Now there was corresponding transactions 170 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: such as you know, Nick Martin moving on. I think 171 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: you know that's one that yeah, Nick, you know had 172 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: some you know, played played pretty well for you for 173 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: some time. But I do think that going to Justin 174 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: Britt that was increasing that asset for sure. So I 175 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: look at the offensive line and I think about it transactionally, 176 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: and I feel like the moves that were made took 177 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: that asset the offensive line, It took it to a 178 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: higher level. So to me, that feels like it definitely 179 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: is on the debit side of the ledger for sure. 180 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I dropped out of accounting, like I 181 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: said in Softmore Year, and I can balance a checkbook, 182 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: but I guess I do it in the Vander method, 183 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: which is seldom used accounting method by other people. So 184 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: let's go over the wide receivers, Johnny, the wide receivers, 185 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: what side of the ledger are you putting them? I 186 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: don't think the wide receivers are increasing the liability, and 187 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: that is a definition of a credits the opposite. It's 188 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: either increasing a liability or increasing an asset. And I 189 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: don't get that the receivers are increasing the liability. I 190 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: think without Will Fuller, you can look at it and go, 191 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: oh man, maybe, but we sort of lost Will in 192 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: all essence. We lost Will with five games left to go, 193 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: and the receivers still kept at a pretty high pace. 194 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: Oh gosh. Yes, So from that perspective, I would put 195 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: the receivers on the debit side of the ledger, even 196 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: though losing Will Fuller one year, losing DeAndre Hopkins. You know, 197 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: if you look at it over a couple of years, yeah, 198 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: you might put on the credit side because you've lost 199 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: Hopkins and Will. But we saw the makings of Brandon Cook, 200 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: Kiki Qt them being together. You throw Nico Collins. Now 201 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: how much of a debit it is? Oh man, Well, 202 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: that remains to be seen, because I do think they've 203 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: got to have a receiver of some size step up, 204 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: because we've all seen Kiki and Randall and Brandon on 205 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: the field. They're not big dudes. They don't have these 206 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: massive catch radiuses, but they can get separation. But they 207 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: don't have massive catch radius. Is Nico Collins does. I 208 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: think the emergence of Nico Collins takes that two steps 209 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: higher than it is right now. But even in losing 210 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: Will Fuller, I still look at the wide receivers because 211 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: of depth, because of what they added to it with 212 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: speed and some size with Nico Collins, Chris Conley some 213 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: veteran presence. I loved watching Chris Moore, I said on 214 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: Texas three six the other night. I love watching Chris Moore. 215 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: To me, he's Chris Hogan. I mean when I saw 216 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: Hogan on the field, you know, he's long limb, but 217 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: he was strong, he was wiry, if you will, same 218 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: sort of speed and just tempo. The way he runs everything, 219 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: it reminds me of Chris Hogan. Chris Moore does Chris 220 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: Hogan the form of Patriots wide receiver. So I just 221 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: feel like there's depth there. And yeah, it's not the 222 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: marquee Will Fuller, DeAndre Hopkins, but I think as a group, 223 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna end up being a pretty solid 224 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: group for sure. All Right, So Chris Hogan makes his 225 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: debut in the Premier Lacrosse League a couple of days ago, 226 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: thoughts on that very quickly as we sidetracked. I think 227 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: it's amazing to think of the athleticism he had to 228 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: think he didn't. I want to say he played very 229 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: very little football and college he maye I've played at all. 230 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: If I can't remember, I know it's very little college 231 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: football that he played. But he played college across oh 232 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: He played one year because he had played at Penn 233 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: State lacrosse, I believe, and then was like, you know, 234 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: I got an eligibility to go play football. So he 235 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: played football for a year. Then he ended up in 236 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: the NFL's wide receiver. It's just amazing. I listen to 237 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: sport athletes, two sport professional athletes. You can put them 238 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: in the top point one percent of everybody you've seen. 239 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: I think it's amazing. I don't care if it's lacrosse 240 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: or football or hockey, whatever doesn't matter. You played two 241 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: professional sports. You are a certified BA and not Bruce Arians. 242 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: So the coach at you Mass once told me, and 243 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: they were a pretty good program at the time, playoff 244 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: lacrosse program. He said, I go out and recruit guys. 245 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: Most of them play both or many of them play both. Right, 246 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: lacrosse football, said, I go out and recruit guys who 247 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: might want to play football, but they're not going to 248 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: get past you know, Division one Double A or Division two. 249 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: But they can be a Division one lacrosse player, you know, 250 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: so you could be a superstar or a star anyway 251 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: at this level or play football at a level that 252 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: maybe you like, maybe you won't. And he used to 253 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: tantalize them with tough choices like that, Okay, next one, 254 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: debit or credit. Let's go front seven. I'm not doing 255 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: the front seventh segment, but I'm doing debit or credit 256 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: front seven. We kind of need a middle ground for this. 257 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: I got a feeling because as far as the pass 258 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: rush goes, it's so hard to predict how that's going 259 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: to go. I do feel that they can be pretty 260 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: good against the run with the group they have. I 261 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: think they can be surprisingly better than you think against 262 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: the run. Yeah, I think that's definitely the case. I mean, 263 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: I said it last night, when you know Christmas wishes that, 264 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: you know, we need somebody to emerge to become a 265 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: truly threatening pass rusher that teams have to prepare for. 266 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: Whether it's hey, we're you know, with JJ on the 267 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: field or Clowney on the field. There was always one 268 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: of those guys on the field, and so teams always 269 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: had to, Hey, we're sending our chips this way, or 270 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: we gotta slide protection this way, or we're gonna split 271 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: the protection towards JJ. They always had to do something 272 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: like that. Somebody's got to step up to be that 273 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: pass rush a track, if you will. So it's to 274 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: me that's I think it's a I don't want to 275 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: say it's increasing a liability, but I think losing JJ 276 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: until until we're able to truly replace him from a 277 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: pass rush perspective, I'm gonna leave that in the accounts 278 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: payable section. I'm I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna put 279 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: a credit in the accounts payable section until there are 280 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: some pass rushers ready to pay that off and you 281 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: can move it out of there and make a debit 282 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: transaction to move it out of accounts payable. So we'll 283 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: leave it accounts payable for now until somebody or somebody's 284 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: we're more are ready to step up and become that 285 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: truly big time pass rush threat. Now, you know as 286 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: well as I do, that run defense last year was 287 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: not good at all. And it was a mixture of technique, desire, 288 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: effort playing a defense that it's called. It was all 289 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: those things. But if this group with added talent plays 290 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: the defense as it's called, plays a higher level passion effort, 291 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, I think the run defense 292 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: is gonna be okay. But I'm gonna put it and 293 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: counts payable and make a credit transaction there and increase 294 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: that to make it a credit for now until a 295 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: pass rusher emerges. I don't care if it's Charles and 296 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: men who. I don't care if it's you, Mark, I 297 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: don't care who it is. Somebody emerges, and when we 298 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: do that, we'll debit that transaction out and we'll be 299 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: a positive going forward. All right, So let's go back 300 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: to the offensive side, and we're not gonna have tip 301 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: for all the position groups here in this credit or 302 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: debit section. But when I look at the running backs, Johnny, 303 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: I think that, Look, you've got these three veterans, and 304 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: I know that Philip Lindsay is good when he's healthy. 305 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a fact, he just is. When he's healthy, 306 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: he's good, he's productive, great, And we all know David 307 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: Johnson looked much better in the last three games last year. 308 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: Mark Ingram's the veteran. You know, I kind of wish 309 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: they had a wild card in there. Oh, this guy 310 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: might you know, maybe it's Scotti Phillips, I don't know. Yeah, 311 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: why write them off, right, buddy, how probably more of 312 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: a special teams guy. We've seen him at times do 313 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: some interesting things as a heavy runner. But your thought 314 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: on the ledger where they belong that running back group, 315 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: I definitely think it's accounts receivable. That's a that's a 316 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: debit transaction. Every time that they made a transaction at 317 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: the running back spot, whether it was early on resigning 318 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: Scotty and bring it back down, trel Hilliard and bring 319 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: it back buddy, Um, you know, David Johnson resigning but 320 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: at a lower amount, bringing in mark Ingraham, Philip Lindsay's 321 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: added to the mix, even Rex Burkhead. It just felt like, 322 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: as you look at accounting transaction, the debit side is 323 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: accounts receivable, like that's gonna pay off at some point, 324 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: and it feels like it was raising the revenue which 325 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: ends up being a credit. So it feels like that's 326 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: what they were doing. Now. An injury can wipe all 327 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: that out for sure, But I think you hit on 328 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: the hit on the guy we saw at the end 329 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: of the year with David Johnson can do. We know 330 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: what Mark Ingraham can do. He's been doing it for 331 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: how many every years in the league. I don't want 332 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: to say he's the X factor, but I do feel 333 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: that Philip Lindsay is so incredibly important in this run game, 334 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: so incredibly important. He is an absolute joy to watch. 335 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: I love watching because of how hard he runs. But 336 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: because of that, and we've seen him up close, he's 337 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: not a big guy. He is not at all. So 338 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: that pounding has to be reduced, and you can reduce 339 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: it with the number of bodies you have in that 340 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: in that Texas backfield, and we've seen an offense before 341 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: utilize four running backs and use them all in a 342 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: positive way. Throughout seventeen games, we would watch the Patriots 343 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: third of all James White eight eight times in a game, 344 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: run Rex, Birkhead and Sony Michelle and h and then Rex. 345 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: Would you know may or James White may not see it, 346 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: but then next week, you know, James White might be 347 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: a big receiver. Rex might not be part of it. 348 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: They might not run the ball as much, but they 349 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: had different ways to beat you with those four different 350 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: running backs, and we saw it in games against him, like, Okay, 351 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: is this a Birkhead game? Is this a White game? 352 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: James White game? Is this you know, we're gonna see 353 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: a lot of Sony Michelle sometimes. I remember in the 354 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen game we played up there and Sony Michelle 355 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: wasn't there yet, But that became very much a James 356 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: White game very much because they got you know, we 357 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: were going back and forth and then we took the 358 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: leading fourth quarter, so James White's got to play almost 359 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: that entire fourth quarter so that they could get him 360 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: the ball to the backfield and receiving and all those 361 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: kind of things. So the type of game can also 362 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: dictate how the Texans are going to utilize their four 363 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: running backs, hopefully if Rex Birkhead comes back. But to 364 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: your pointing about a guy like Scottie Phillips, is there 365 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: going to be a surprise? Could there be a surprise? 366 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: There's no you know how I feel about this, There 367 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: nothing surprises me anymore, no thing in the world of football. 368 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: Could they pick somebody up and make a waiver claim 369 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: right at the right at the end of the training camp, absolutely, 370 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: and they're sitting I think third. I think it's third 371 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: in the waiver claim process. That's another way to go 372 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: get two, three, four players if you need it. Right 373 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: there at the end, guys you didn't see getting released 374 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: get released and you're like, wait a second, we can 375 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: use him. Maybe there's a running back that comes out 376 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: of that. That's how Buddy Howell got of here, so 377 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: A J. Moore got here. So it can happen, no 378 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: doubt in that process. But I feel like it's been 379 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: positive each each thing they've done with the running back crew. 380 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: For sure. Well you think about it, Johnny, two years ago, 381 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: you and I are doing the same segment, we'd be like, Okay, 382 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: what do you got here? We're talking about Lamar Miller, 383 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: Deonta Foreman, we're talking about those are the guys, and 384 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: we're thinking there's tremendous upside with Deonta Foreman, which there 385 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: always was, right, but we just never saw it. And 386 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: we all remembered what happened here against Arizona. Was it 387 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: right when Arizona got himself hurt on a touchdown run? 388 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: So look, there are a lot of possibilities you know, 389 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: if we go back two years ago for Deonta Foreman 390 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: to be great or Lamar Miller to really shine. But 391 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller got hurt. They had to trade for Duke Johnson. 392 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: They let go of Diantey Foreman, and there we were 393 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: after Labor Day weekend with Carlos hide at Duke Johnson 394 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: in the lineup. And those guys were really good for 395 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: that year. You know, you went to the divisional round 396 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: and hide it over a thousand yards that had a 397 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: great seasons, best season. So you're right to your point. 398 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: You never know. All right, let's go quarterbacks here, because 399 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: I almost want to go more investments than credit debit 400 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: with these guys, because you look at to Rod Taylor 401 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: and it's like he's not bitcoin. He's probably like a 402 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: really strong bond or some kind of gold or something 403 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: really safe and effective and you feel really good about 404 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: having it. And then you look at Davis Mills and 405 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: he could be he could be bitcoin. You just don't know, 406 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: or it might not work out. There are multiple ways 407 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: of looking at these guys. But let's do the accounting 408 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: thing with the quarterback position. Yeah, I think I think 409 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: you're on it with with Tyrode. I think one you know, 410 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: you said the word the words safe, and I think 411 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: he would kind of chuckle and say, I don't know 412 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: if I'm safe, But I think we feel valid. We 413 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: feel very solid and comfortable with him, and I think 414 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: you'll feel that way that hey, you know we've got 415 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, you think about investments in a portfolio. You know, 416 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: you've always as you know, it's supposed to be diversified, right, 417 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: You're supposed to have, you know, maybe some some higher yield, 418 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: higher risk ones, some you know, maybe low yield, low 419 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: risk ones. And I feel like that's what you have 420 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks here. I feel like you've got kind 421 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: of both. I think with Tyrode, he's been around for 422 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: a while, so you know what you're getting. You know, 423 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of a um, you know, a low risk, 424 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: but man, you get but a valuable to you, a 425 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: valuable resource because it's going to continue to generate money. 426 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: Now how much it generates can depend on a lot 427 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: of a lot of different things, but you know it's 428 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: gonna generate money. And whether it's one hundred dollars coming 429 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: back or a million dollars coming back, you just know 430 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: you're getting some sort of return and whether he can 431 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: stay healthy and those kind of things you're gonna get 432 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: returned back. With Davis Mills, you're kind of going into 433 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: it blind, like, man, god Lee, I was advised on 434 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: this particular investment. I've gotten a lot of good advice 435 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: on this investment. And it could be Man, we bought 436 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: this thing low, but it could really strike high. So 437 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: from that perspective, you take a risk because you know 438 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: you have Tyrod already there, so okay, let's take a 439 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: little bit of risk. Now. I don't know if it's 440 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: all the way high risk high yield because he's not 441 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: a first round pick. It's not a first round pick, 442 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: so to me, it's not high risk. But there is 443 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: risk involved because you look, he was a sixty what 444 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: eighth pick in the draft. You want to see some 445 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: return from a player picked in the top seventy five 446 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: of any draft, so you want to be able to 447 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: see that return coming back to you. So I don't 448 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 1: think it's enormously high risk. I don't think that. I 449 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: think the Jets in some sense, I think with Zach Wilson, 450 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: he's it if that guy doesn't hit, like they've banked 451 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: everything they've got on Zach Wilson being that guy that 452 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: is high risk, that's high yield because if he does 453 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: pan out, well it'll be good for a while and 454 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: then they can attack all the other pieces. But if 455 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't, there is really no safety net. In fact, 456 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: they don't have a veteran really to go along with 457 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: like a chest been in the building veteran to go 458 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: along with him. They don't have that, So it is 459 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: there's no safety net there with the Texans, even with Davis, 460 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: there's always that safety net of Habatara Taylor there. So 461 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: it feels like a diversified investment that you know will 462 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: yield some money. You just hope that you can get 463 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: a higher return based on what Davis does, how he performs, 464 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: and then hey, you might get a certain period even 465 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: with a relatively low yielding stock, you still might find 466 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: that period where it's you you get kind of a 467 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: peak in that particular performance. So I like the diversification 468 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: of the assets for sure. Okay, Johnny, we don't have 469 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: time for the rest of the position groups, but I 470 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: know we'll get to him. We have all summer next 471 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: who's better and we've got former Texans assistant coaches, We've 472 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: got vintage coaches, nineties quarterbacks. Let's get to it next 473 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: On Texans Radio. It's Texans Radio. Mark Vandermayer, John Harris 474 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: with you. Time to play the game we play every 475 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: Tuesday at this time. I think pretty much it's called 476 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: Who's Better? Johnny? You ready to go? Of course I 477 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: look forward to this segment every week. Yeah, okay, we're 478 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: gonna go. Former Texans coordinators on the defensive side of 479 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: the football. This is a very tough one intellectually and emotionally. 480 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: Who's better Wade Phillips or Romeo credic Well with the Texans? 481 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: With the Texans? Now, this is tough. I mean, I've 482 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: really I've thought about this one before throwing it at you. 483 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: It's to me, it's kind of a tie because there's 484 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: some areas over here. There's some areas over there, you know, 485 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: Wade first year number two in the league on defense, 486 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: Romeo first year number one in takeaways? How about that? 487 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of things to point 488 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: to here your thought. Who's better? Oh, this is such 489 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: a gut punch. I'm sure I'm Wade's gonna tweet to 490 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: me later if I say Romeo and Romeo see me 491 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: in the building and be mad if I said, Wade, 492 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 1: I'm making it tough. Here's here's the one thing that 493 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: I would say that I would lean Wade on. And 494 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: this is kind of not fair to Romeo, but I 495 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: would give Wade just a half step of an advantage 496 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: because when Wade got here, there was no defense, no, 497 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: absolutely none. It was Mario and Cushing and Demo, Demiko. 498 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: Kareem was here, but Kareem hadn't. He had year. His 499 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: rookie year was just awful. It was terrible. So Wade 500 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: comes in takes the two eleven defense and I was 501 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: talking to SuDS today because he had that up on 502 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: his screen, something he was working on from the divisional 503 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: playoff round. And I remember that second half against the Ravens, 504 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: that playoff game. That was as good as I can 505 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: remember any Texas defense playing. Ye ended up losing the game, 506 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: but what was starting starting to show signs of being 507 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: what you had, Ninja. You had Kush healthy the secondary 508 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: with Daniel Manning and Junathan Joseph Kareem. They were on 509 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: one in that second half. I mean they were flying around. 510 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: It was like this defense it's fun. There was even 511 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: a point where it was like no offense to TJ 512 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: and we needed them to score. But it's like, okay, 513 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: they went three and out. Let's just I don't care. 514 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: I want to see the defense, and that defense that 515 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: day was unbelievable. I would give Way just a half said, 516 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: because by the time Romeo got here in twenty fourteen, 517 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: those pieces were in place. What was here and was 518 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: what you know, Kush was banged up, but he was 519 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: coming back. You had Kareem and j Joe, Daniel Manning 520 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: was still here, Ninja was still here. I mean, they 521 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: had a lot of hangovers and leftovers from eleven, twelve, 522 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: and thirteen. So Romeo came in, set them on the 523 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: right course, and away you go. There is not much 524 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: that separates those two at all. But I would give 525 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: Way just the little bit of an edge just because 526 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: of what he inherited. And that doesn't I don't think 527 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: make him better than Romeo, but I think what it does, 528 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: it just separates him because he came in and took 529 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: over a defense that was just got awful and turned 530 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: it around. Romeo was part of turning a two and 531 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: fourteen team around, but the defensive pieces were already there. Really, yeah, 532 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: I gotta say that Romeo's performance as coordinator, in other words, 533 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: the entire defensive side of the ball in twenty sixteen 534 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: when they finished number one in the NFL with what 535 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: getting hurt, that was really impressive. With Win and Clowney 536 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: playing so well, and you have Oswaller quarterback, and you 537 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: win a game at Jacksonville when Brock throws for ninety 538 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: nine yards and you're playing lights out against New England, 539 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: but you just can't score and it was so frustrating, 540 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: and there we were. But anyway, I just thought that 541 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: was an interesting one to talk about because I like 542 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: talking about those two guys. Who's better Johnny We're gonna 543 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: go nineties quarterbacks? Who's better? Jim Kelly or Troy Aikman. 544 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: Now they met, Okay, they met a couple of times. 545 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: Super bowls. Now Kelly was hurt, right, shaking up whatever, 546 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: And I know Aikman's got Aikman's got the Super bowls. 547 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: Kelly's got four appearances in the Super Bowl. If you 548 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: want to go rings here. But I gotta say I'm 549 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: giving my opinion first. Never mind, I'll get to mind 550 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: in a second. You go first, who's better? Whenever we 551 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: do who's better. I try and like me, like, what's 552 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: my immediate like right away, Jim Kelly Aikman and I 553 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: just went ah, like I had no immediate reaction to him, 554 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: and so I'm like, oh boy. Because both had Hall 555 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: of Fame running backs, both of them had Hall of 556 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: Fame wide receivers, both of them had Hall of Famers 557 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: or All pros on the offensive line. They both were 558 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: coached by Believe both Marv Levy and Jimmy Johnson, and 559 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame are going in Hall of Fame right. 560 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean, they were very, very similar and the only 561 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: thing that really separates them is the fact that Aikman 562 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: had a full squad to go win championships and the 563 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: Bills came up short. If if Norwood makes the field 564 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: going ninety, then maybe the discussion of the little if 565 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: rien on Jim Kelly and I and with quarterbacks sometimes 566 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: I try and try and not bring in the whole 567 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: quarterback wins part. But I would really have liked to 568 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: have seen Troy Aikman take the K gun which was 569 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: named after Kelly, and see what he could have done 570 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: with that. I do feel like Troy made the most 571 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: of his offense, but it was a lot of Emmett 572 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: Smith in play action. But if Troy Aikman would have 573 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: been in a hurry up offense, man, he would have 574 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: been unbelievable. I'm gonna say Aikman because that was kind 575 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: of my first just gut reaction when I thought through it. 576 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: But man, that's really I mean, that's a that's razor thing. 577 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: That might be even closer than Wade in Romeo. Yeah, 578 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say Aikman. I'm gonna say Aikman. See, 579 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: I think that if you're starting a team today, you 580 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: get either guy in his prime to start the team with. 581 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: You got the number one pick here, you gotta pick 582 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: one quarterback among those two. I would say Kelly gets 583 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: it with most GMS, but maybe I'm wrong, and I 584 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: just love the way he played. Think that, why do 585 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: you think that Aaron Glenn told me that even more 586 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: than Marino, Kelly was the guy who gave fits that 587 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: Marino was more predictable. Now it could have been the 588 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: offense because there's so much that goes into this week. 589 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: Know that the system and everything you mentioned, the k 590 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: gut itself. Anyway, let's move on vintage coach here because 591 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: Aikman had Jimmy Johnson coaching him to start up. So 592 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: let's go here, who's better, Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcels. Johnny, 593 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: I had Parcels last week in this, but not against 594 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson. So the hair or the tuna as a coach. 595 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: As a coach, I gotta win one game, Bill Parcels, 596 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: not to forget about the one game. All right. So 597 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: here's this because here's why I say this. But here's 598 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: why I say that, because Jimmy made his money, for 599 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: lack of a better term, in personnel. That's where Jimmy 600 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: tim He makes that herschel Walker deal. He pushes that 601 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: across and then he's able to draft players that really fit. 602 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: You know, he didn't run horribly complicated offense. He didn't 603 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: run this you know, fancy defense. I mean he had 604 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, they ran a four three in Miami for 605 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: three on defense, and they ran you know, Emmett Smith 606 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: and play accident on offense. And yes, the one thing 607 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: I will give Jimmy a lot of credit were actually 608 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: both these guys. For these two guys somehow managed egos 609 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: better than I would ever have expected. And Jimmy's a 610 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: whale of a coach. But Parcels had always felt like 611 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: could take less and do more. Jimmy went and got 612 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: more as a GM and then did what was seemingly 613 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: expected at that point. I mean, you think of all 614 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: the key moves that Jimmy made. He makes obviously the 615 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: herishall Walker deal, but he also makes the Charles Hailey trade. 616 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: Bowls are I mean, unbelievable. As a I'll take Jimmy 617 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: as head coach. I'll take Parcels. Well. Look, I lived 618 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,479 Speaker 1: in Miami when Jimmy was there coaching the Dolphins. Actually 619 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: just got there for his last season. But I looked 620 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: at the team that he put together was Zach Thomas, 621 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: Jason Taylor and Patrick's Artant senior and Sam Madison. That 622 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: defense was outstanding. They just could never replace Marino. He 623 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: put together a great defense. I think Jimmy is a 624 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: real great builder. Parcels is two. Look what he did 625 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: with the Jets. Look what he did with the Cowboys. 626 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: Look what he helped do with the Patriots when he 627 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: brought them from two and fourteen eventually to a Super 628 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: Bowl appearance losing to the Packers. Interesting stuff, all right, 629 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: Moving on, who's better Johnny, We're gonna go vintage stadium here, 630 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: dead football stadium. Now. The Colisseum isn't quite dead right, 631 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: USC plays there, but it's dead to the NFL now 632 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: that the Rams have a new home. So I'm gonna 633 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: go dead NFL stadium, the LA Coliseum or the Orange Bowl. 634 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: Now you're allowed to include college participation in your argument. 635 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: Which is better? Now? When we were at the Colosseum 636 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: a few years ago to play the Rams, and we 637 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: really dug deep into the history, very impressive stuff. And 638 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: you know how I feel about the Orange Bowl, which 639 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: no longer exists. Which is better? Well, the Colosseum has 640 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: the advantage of having all the Olympics twenty four and 641 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: eighty four there, so that gives the Coliseum a little bit. 642 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: But just from a functionality standpoint, the Colosseum was a 643 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: nightmare because they were doing renovation. I give they can't 644 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: think about that. I'm talking about like the stadium, the 645 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: whole identity. It's history. It's still to me is the 646 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: Orange Bowl. And I've been at the Coliseum. We've been there, 647 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: you know a couple of times now, I've been at 648 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: the Coliseum. I still will say the Orange Bowl. There's 649 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: something about the games that were played there. I think 650 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: about night games of the actual Orange Bowl, and you know, 651 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty four, thirty one th Nebraska and Miami. 652 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 1: I think about the games that Miami won there. Um, 653 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: you know the game that you and I always talk 654 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 1: about two thousand, Um, you know, Florida State, Florida State, 655 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: Miami was just unbelieved. There's just yeah, I mean, just yeah, 656 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: super Bowl, the Super Bowls that took place. Sure, the 657 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: first ball took place in the coliseum. Yeah, But the 658 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: Orange Bowl to me was football. It was football. I mean, 659 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: it's Notre Dame Miami games that took place there. It's 660 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: just to me, it's football. I mean, nineteen eighty one, 661 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: the AFC Divisional playoff game between San Diego and the 662 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins is arguably the greatest NFL game there's ever been. 663 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: The Orange Bowl to me, And one of the this 664 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: is this is gonna sound really weird, Mark, but one 665 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: of the things I loved about the Orange Bowl being 666 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: a turf stadium. Guys, by the fourth quarter will be 667 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: mud and dirt, grass stains and everything over. You just 668 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: look like you've been through a football war. And I love. 669 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: I always love that look, and so the Orange Bowl 670 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: to me always held a special place. I knew when 671 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: they blew it up, I was like, man, I just 672 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 1: hate the fact that I never had to go there 673 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: or never got to go there. The Orange Bowl, to me, 674 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: I would put above the Coliseum. I mean the Coliseum. 675 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: I didn't know the Dodgers played at the Coliseum for 676 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: a few minutes. It's got out there, and the LA 677 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: Chargers played there back in the AFL days in nineteen 678 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: sixty and they've had a lot of events. Like you said, Olympics, 679 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the LA Coliseum is a legendary place. But 680 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm with you, my friend, I got to give it 681 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: to the Orange Bowl. There's so many When I first 682 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: got into that building, I would I got chills. I 683 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: got chills. There are very few st stadiums. Stadium is 684 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: the actual proper plural, yeah, but there are very few 685 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 1: stadiums that really do that for me in that way, 686 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: with all the history. You see the palm trees in 687 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: the open end zone, I was like, dang, this is 688 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: the orange bulb. All right, my friend, that'll do it 689 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: for now. We'll go around the league next here on 690 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: Texans Radio, Mark Vandermarin, John Harris giving your company. All right, Johnny, 691 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: let's go around the league here. This is not a 692 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: ton right now, as we've hit on some of the 693 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: Texans stuff. But you have these rookie quarterbacks, and are 694 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: the Texans have a rookie quarterback? Of course, but these 695 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: high draft picks. Okay, you have Trevor Lawrence with a 696 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: hammy issue. Now it's early June, not that early anymore, 697 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: it's mid June. It's mid June, Johnny flies and you're 698 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: having fun. They gotta get them ready for camp. And 699 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: I guess the question is is it automatic that Lawrence 700 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: starts right away? Matt Nagy says from Chicago that they're 701 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: gonna stick with Andy Dalton to start. Now. Fields could 702 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: win the job during training camp, and maybe should who knows. 703 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: But what do you think of these rookie quarterbacks, these 704 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: high draft picks and when they might get their shot? Well, 705 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 1: I think Trevor is going to be the guy from 706 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: the beginning, to be honest, I mean, I think he's 707 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: gonna be front center. That one. I feel pretty solid about. 708 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: Wilson is definitely the guy because they don't have anybody 709 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: else and Jacksonal they got Gardner Minshew, but I just 710 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: think that ship has sailed to be honest, so I 711 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: feel like Trevor Early Zach has to be. Mac Jones 712 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: is one obviously worth watching because we play the Patriots 713 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: in week five. But today the reports were that he 714 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: got a lot more reps than Cam Newton did, and 715 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: apparently Cam didn't look happy about that. But yeah, it'd 716 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: be interesting. And the one you mentioned is Chicago, and 717 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: I think Chicago has got probably the best fallback plan 718 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: in Andy Dalton. Of those four and Jimmy and Trey 719 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: Lance and San Francisco, I think Jimmy is the guy. 720 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: I think they want Jimmy to be the guy in 721 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and Trey Lance has to step in. Great, 722 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: they'll deal with it, but I think their thought is 723 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: jim Jimmy Garoppolo one final year, hand the reins over. 724 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: Jimmy gets traded or moved or moves on and came 725 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: members contract status, but he moves on after twenty twenty. 726 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: Want Trey Land steps in and they're gonna feel like 727 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: they've got the Mahomes that Alex Smit the Mahomes transition plan. 728 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: I think Trevor and Wilson right away, but not because 729 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: they were won two. I just think that's the way 730 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: the organizations have essentially made it. They can't go out 731 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: and get a big time veteran in Jackson. They didn't 732 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: get a veteran with the Jets. The Bears did. The 733 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: Bears did go out and get Andy Dalton because they 734 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: were picking twentieth. The anythink they were gonna get a quarterback, 735 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: and then they obviously had to move up and go 736 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: get one. But I think Justin Fields will have that 737 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: job very very early on. I don't know if it's 738 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: week one, but I think Justin Fields will have that 739 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: job relatively early. Boy, they've gone through it a lot, 740 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: haven't they. I Mean, when you look at trying to 741 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: invest in quarterbacks, we talk about our AFC Souths friends. 742 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: You know, people look at the Titans with Ryan Tannehill. 743 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: And by the way, when we had Mike Keith on 744 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 1: last week, it's a very good point he made about 745 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. When Titans acquired Tannehill, people said, eh, yeah, yeah, whatever. 746 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: You know, they got Mariota. Maybe Tannehill gets in there 747 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: because Mariota just is doing the job. But Tannehill's become 748 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: extremely effective. So you never know how these things play out. 749 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: All Right, Another item here, which I know interests you, 750 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: me and Andre Ware. The CFL has released its schedule 751 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: and they start August fifth. To what I say, Oh, 752 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: come on, I wanted you in camp already. I wanted 753 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 1: July football. You know, I love July football. With the CFL, 754 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 1: it's the perfect little or durv for the NFL season. 755 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: It's kind of like you're going over somebody's house and 756 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: they bring out the cheese board and you're kind of hungry. 757 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: You bring out a little cheese and crackers, and I'm 758 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: just gonna have a couple. I don't want to spoil 759 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: dinner or the chipsu and salsa. The CFL was the 760 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: chips and salsa and maybe a little caseo even to 761 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: the NFL season. Once the NFL season hits, I ignore 762 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: the CFL, but it was great to consume in the 763 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: month of July. I agree with you Mark from that standpoint, 764 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: no doubt. However, the CFL's back, okay, and that's good. 765 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: That is good. That's good. There was no CFL twenty twenty. 766 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: The CFLs back in twenty twenty one. And I'm cool 767 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,919 Speaker 1: with that. And oh, by the way, did you see 768 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: that the Edmonton Eskimos are no longer? Wait? What are 769 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: they are? The Edmonton Elks? Oh yeah, because he changed 770 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: the name. Yep, yep, yep they did it, didn't Dan. 771 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: The video that they the video that they put together 772 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: to show the changing the name, the new logo, all 773 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: the kinds of it was one of the better videos 774 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: I've seen. It looked like it was put together by 775 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: our guys. Sue looked fantastic. It was really really cool. 776 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: And they're now the Edmonton Elks. I gotta see that. 777 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad they didn't call themselves the Edmonton Oilers. That 778 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,919 Speaker 1: were problematic, so we all know that. Okay, Johnny, thanks 779 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. You gotta Mark, thank you. 780 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: That's John Harris. Tomorrow night we'll have in the label 781 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: of a bunch of Wednesday sort of stuff formerly known 782 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: as Draft Wednesday and Thursday. John McClain, the general from 783 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: the Houston Chronicle, will join us as well, and go 784 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: to the Texans app to check out everything you need 785 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: to know about your Texans. Have a great night, Go Texans.