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Speaker 1: on the fan locally in Dallas for worth. Hello, Rob Phillips, Hello, Brian,
Speaker 1: brought us so jonesy Tuesday. Have you back? Happy to
Speaker 1: be back. Took care of some things at home yesterday.
Speaker 1: There you go, some plumbing issues part of the problem yesterday.
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Speaker 1: eight eight five five to two nine seven. How are
Speaker 1: the guys on the fan this morning? Well, Jerry had
Speaker 1: to go late, I heard Jerry, yes, so uh it
Speaker 1: kind of led over to when I was supposed to
Speaker 1: see so you didn't get as much time because of Jerry. No,
Speaker 1: they just got pushed back on. Those guys trained to
Speaker 1: let me get here by night. Okay, about that? All right?
Speaker 1: Well good, and you listen to Jerry I did, okay,
Speaker 1: and he breaking news from Jerry this morning here in
Speaker 1: the last half hour. Not no, no, he kind of
Speaker 1: reiterated what we heard from Jason yesterday. I think they
Speaker 1: feel optimistic about Gregory and maybe Xavier Woods getting back
Speaker 1: for week three and and Jason also with I'll just
Speaker 1: go ahead and update the injuries and think Mallee Collins
Speaker 1: has a shot to get back into practice. We'll see.
Speaker 1: He did sprain his knee in the game. So they've
Speaker 1: got some injuries, and particularly some injuries on that defensive
Speaker 1: line up front. But again, Dayton Jones has a chance
Speaker 1: to get back too, So at the same time they
Speaker 1: might get some pieces back, but they're pretty We're talking
Speaker 1: about sign and receiver depth, but defensive line depth, to
Speaker 1: me is what's really standing out right now. And know
Speaker 1: what you allude to. Jerry was asked about Bryce Butler.
Speaker 1: He's in town. According to Jerry, he is in doubt.
Speaker 1: Was as forthcoming as he was about Bryce Butler. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't really say, Okay, we got him signed. They
Speaker 1: probably have to figure out if they are going to
Speaker 1: sign him, who who they're gonna let goes? And that's
Speaker 1: what I told those guys. Yeah, especially if Xavier Woods,
Speaker 1: Savior Woods comes back, then you're gonna back. Have to
Speaker 1: figure it out, yea, yeah, yeah. Carry seven Well you
Speaker 1: can say it's seven wide receivers. It's six wide receivers
Speaker 1: with one third receiver one third running. We're playing that
Speaker 1: game now. Yeah, that's how we went from having him
Speaker 1: as a receiver to having him as a split player.
Speaker 1: Now that's a third, a third and a third. I
Speaker 1: just had a flashback to like August thirtieth where brought
Speaker 1: us just I don't want seven receivers. Still don't you
Speaker 1: still don't I still don't. I don't quite understand. You know,
Speaker 1: how do you why do you think Butler fits into
Speaker 1: if indeed they sign. I like what Brian was saying yesterday,
Speaker 1: it was pure speculation about it. Should there might be
Speaker 1: an opening at the end. But who knows. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: what's going to happen with with Williams? We don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, the league might come out and say because
Speaker 1: of the things, the the the off the field problems
Speaker 1: that he had that uh that maybe they say, okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna sit you for a game or two because
Speaker 1: there's a preintive strike. But then again, I look at that,
Speaker 1: and I asked Jason Garrett this question to walk off,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with Lance Lenora? Then? You know, lance Lenora
Speaker 1: went with your You know, we we as a group
Speaker 1: had some really good discussions about why to keep seven
Speaker 1: wide receivers, why not to keep seven wide receivers? Why
Speaker 1: does Lance Lenora make this team? Why? You know, And
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're taking a guy that you
Speaker 1: had and was shown the door, you know, and who
Speaker 1: said some really negative things about your team on the
Speaker 1: way out the door, and now you're going to bring
Speaker 1: him back in. Maybe, but then you get a guy
Speaker 1: in the practice squad that we all kind of thought
Speaker 1: had a chance to make this team. So from that
Speaker 1: aspect of it, it's that's why I'm doing radio. I'm
Speaker 1: not a personne guy. I mean, I'm trying to I'm
Speaker 1: trying to sit here and figure out why you would
Speaker 1: Why would you bring back Bryce Butler unless unless he's
Speaker 1: going to play a position of somebody that you potentially
Speaker 1: can lose, or maybe the fact is they're not really
Speaker 1: excited about having Beasley and Austin both being smaller players
Speaker 1: playing as much as they're happening. And that was the
Speaker 1: other thing. What does Butler bring into the receiver corps
Speaker 1: that they don't have right now? And he is a
Speaker 1: taller wide receiver. I say something too about Josh Gordon
Speaker 1: and that whole thing. Yes, Josh Gordon coming back to
Speaker 1: Texas is probably not a really good idea. You know,
Speaker 1: you think about where a lot of his problems came
Speaker 1: from stem from. Coming back to the state of Texas
Speaker 1: is probably not a great idea for him. If in fact,
Speaker 1: you're looking for a guy that tends to have issues,
Speaker 1: relapse problems, things like that, this environment for him is
Speaker 1: probably to separate from people you might have been around. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: and and I'm sure that everybody out there is going
Speaker 1: broadest year. You know, you're making too big of a
Speaker 1: deal about No, I'm not. This is something you have
Speaker 1: to think about when bringing a player. When you're bringing
Speaker 1: a player in One of the reasons why people said,
Speaker 1: excuse me, Robin, we're gonna make a great point. Good.
Speaker 1: This is why they said don't draft Dez Brian because
Speaker 1: of all the influence around and well, Dez proved to
Speaker 1: be different, you know, and I don't think that Josh
Speaker 1: Gordon can prove to be different with what is going
Speaker 1: on with his day, and there were different issues with Dez.
Speaker 1: I mean, Josh Gordon isn't essentially correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: He's basically Randy Gregory right now, like he's one strike
Speaker 1: away from God from Goodbye Forever. Dez had some attitude
Speaker 1: stuff coming out of No. I just say, yeah, what
Speaker 1: people said they shouldn't draft does Brant because the bad
Speaker 1: influences Dez Bryant overcame more things. I got in trouble
Speaker 1: one time on the radio for saying that Dez Bryant,
Speaker 1: and he got mad at me because I was trying
Speaker 1: to compliment him on I've never seen a guy with
Speaker 1: more more things happened to him in his life and
Speaker 1: him overcome those, you know, I meant that as a
Speaker 1: compliment it. I don't know if necessarily that Josh Gordon
Speaker 1: could could survive being back in Texas. We're on the
Speaker 1: same page there. And the other thing too, is because
Speaker 1: he was an in state player, Cowboys did their homework
Speaker 1: on him coming out of the draft, did a lot
Speaker 1: of homework on him, and maybe they don't. They had
Speaker 1: to gather information if they were looking into this last
Speaker 1: couple days on what's happened to him since he's been
Speaker 1: in the league. But they know, they know about him,
Speaker 1: and I just trust that they had information that said,
Speaker 1: you know what, when we're dealing with some stuff already
Speaker 1: now where he's going, I wouldn't be surprised if he
Speaker 1: stays on the field. He has a heck of the season.
Speaker 1: When you hear the word time bomb tagged to a player,
Speaker 1: there are certain things you can call players, certain words
Speaker 1: you can use. Some of them are really bad by
Speaker 1: the way that you can use. We'll talk about those
Speaker 1: off the air. But you call a player, you say
Speaker 1: he's a time bomb. Ticking time bomb, A ticking time bomb. Quote.
Speaker 1: That's not good. It's not good. How many how many
Speaker 1: guys do you want on your team that you've got
Speaker 1: a nurse? You already got a nurse. Two guys, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that we know of, And now you want to
Speaker 1: bring in another guy. And you start relying on too
Speaker 1: many guys that have those off field problems, you're going
Speaker 1: to start failing and the cancer starts growing in your locks.
Speaker 1: Also in the middle of the season two, it's one
Speaker 1: thing to bring in a guy that's you know, Gregory
Speaker 1: gets comes back and has the camp in the preseason,
Speaker 1: and he gets back into the program. We're talking like
Speaker 1: on the fly, this guy bringing him in and he's
Speaker 1: he had does have the baggage. I could see why
Speaker 1: they said, you know what, let's just going in another direction.
Speaker 1: And and and and look at Cleveland. Yeah, Cleveland was
Speaker 1: so patient with him. They put up with how many
Speaker 1: years has this been going on? Twenty twelve? He came
Speaker 1: into Okay, and they've been so patient with him, and
Speaker 1: and they finally go, that's it. I'm throwing my hands
Speaker 1: up in the air. I've what had happened this weekend?
Speaker 1: He tweaked his hamstring at a do emotional emotional thing. Well,
Speaker 1: evidently say available play now you can play. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know he missed, he was late to a meeting. They
Speaker 1: just didn't, you know. And you know, Mickey's right, and hey, listen,
Speaker 1: trust me, and I don't blame Cleveland. If you listen,
Speaker 1: if you listen to me on the draft show, I
Speaker 1: take great pride in trying to give guys second chances.
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon was a great example of what But Joe
Speaker 1: Mixon I think Joe, you know, I'm always like, hey,
Speaker 1: bring in the bringing that criminal guy bring you know,
Speaker 1: everybody gives me a hard time about that. But this
Speaker 1: is one where I look at it and I know
Speaker 1: a lot of angles here and it's this one is
Speaker 1: not worth it. This is just not worth it. So
Speaker 1: why is it worth it to the Patriots? You think
Speaker 1: it's worth it to the Patriots because the Patriots have
Speaker 1: built up enough equity in that they're the smartest team
Speaker 1: in the league. And there's smart so desperate at wide
Speaker 1: receiver five transactions since July yea the wide receiver twenty
Speaker 1: five transactions since July at the wide receiver position. So
Speaker 1: Switzer wasn't the answer. No, he's not there, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh. Sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's the thing. That's the thing. And I give
Speaker 1: the Patriots credit, but if you build up enough equity
Speaker 1: to where you're winning super Bowls and being playoffs, yeah,
Speaker 1: you look, now they win a lot of those things
Speaker 1: because of the head coach and because of the quarterback.
Speaker 1: So you know, you can take chances like that. That's
Speaker 1: a that's a it's a if you if you have that,
Speaker 1: if you have that ability, if you have that lock.
Speaker 1: There's people will argue here though that and and you
Speaker 1: guys can beat me up on saying this if you want,
Speaker 1: and I'll let you do it. But there are people
Speaker 1: that said that that you do not want to put
Speaker 1: this player. Why give Jason Garrett another headache? Why give
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett another headache to have to deal with with
Speaker 1: all that's going on with this with this season? You
Speaker 1: know that that is you know, you talk about Belichick,
Speaker 1: and you know Jason is an established coach, established in
Speaker 1: years of tender but not in you know, maybe in
Speaker 1: maybe right now you're looking at a situation where his
Speaker 1: job's on the line. That and you're and you want
Speaker 1: to throw and do you want to take you want
Speaker 1: to throw something else into his put on his plate
Speaker 1: that he has to deal with instead of focusing on
Speaker 1: winning games. But people will say, well brought us If
Speaker 1: you had Josh Gordon, you could probably win games. Or
Speaker 1: is he going to be eligible this or he's going
Speaker 1: to be eligible. I think that that's do you want
Speaker 1: you want to put that on your head? Coach? You
Speaker 1: got to show up this week, so I'll bring Dez back.
Speaker 1: Dez was a problem myself myself, Mickey, I don't think
Speaker 1: Dez was a pro. No, No No, I'm saying, you might
Speaker 1: as well bring him back. If I'm going to take
Speaker 1: a chance on If you're if you're gonna cut Dez
Speaker 1: Bryant because of because of things you saw in the
Speaker 1: locker room or or things, uh you know, things that
Speaker 1: you will personality conflicts or whatever, then why in the
Speaker 1: hell would you want to bring in Josh gor right?
Speaker 1: That to me would make absolutely what I'd made. The
Speaker 1: parallel with Randy Gregory, they feel like this that's different
Speaker 1: with Randy. Players lobbied for him to get reinstated on
Speaker 1: this football team. Like it's not an attitude thing with Randy,
Speaker 1: it's it is a medical issue that is causing his
Speaker 1: previous SUBSCT. Like what I've seen from receivers so far,
Speaker 1: I don't know why they're bringing in Bryce Butler myself.
Speaker 1: I don't I had the same for two weeks, or
Speaker 1: for two weeks, for two weeks, I you know what,
Speaker 1: you cannot understand bringing him in for a workout, seeing
Speaker 1: making sure that he's whatever, so that you have him,
Speaker 1: you know what's out there in case you have an
Speaker 1: injury or something. But did he get a private workout?
Speaker 1: He was not part of the they won the last
Speaker 1: part of Camp Cowboys. Yeah, but see that was that
Speaker 1: was their way of looking at their emergency board. This
Speaker 1: is the only time they'll work players out, right, they
Speaker 1: they've got the coaches, the fact that the fact that
Speaker 1: the Seahawks played a money night game, they really couldn't
Speaker 1: sit down and look at tape. They had to wait.
Speaker 1: They had to wait for the sea so they had
Speaker 1: really a spare day to look to. So what you
Speaker 1: do if you're a personnel guy, you say, and it's
Speaker 1: hard for the coaches to go out there and work
Speaker 1: guys out because they do not want to take time
Speaker 1: away from game planning. So this is the way you
Speaker 1: set your emergency board. You get the coaches involved, and
Speaker 1: they will not ask the coaches to do any more
Speaker 1: workouts the rest of the way. This won't do it.
Speaker 1: So that makes great sense. The whole organization was out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah except us. Oh we were there. I was there
Speaker 1: there you go, all right, stand up and watch. So
Speaker 1: why would the Patriots? Why don't the Patriots take a
Speaker 1: look at Dez Bryant age. Maybe maybe he's running. He's
Speaker 1: older than a Josh Gordon. This is where this is
Speaker 1: now where the film turns into because or do they
Speaker 1: have an impression of Dez Bryant that he is trouble.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a trouble. I think with the
Speaker 1: pecause they're not afraid to bring trouble in, but they're
Speaker 1: always there. The Patriots are more interested in bringing in
Speaker 1: players they think and play. Josh Gordon can play. The
Speaker 1: problem is, like you said, will he be there? You know,
Speaker 1: will he be at the meetings and stuff to be available?
Speaker 1: This I feel like that that that they first see
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon as being a different type player than Dez Bryant. Absolutely, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I think they're looking for somebody explosive, get down the field.
Speaker 1: That's probably not it's this point, this is more incorporated
Speaker 1: and immediately like this week, this is more about ability
Speaker 1: than it is about personality. Is what I'm Josh Gordon's
Speaker 1: twenty seven does is I think turning thirty and what
Speaker 1: was the talk coming out of here that like, we
Speaker 1: love Dez, but Dez had lost a step and was
Speaker 1: in decline. I think that was generally the feeling in
Speaker 1: terms of a guy who can go vertical, a guy
Speaker 1: who's just dynamic, Josh Gordon could be. There's another factor
Speaker 1: in there, and it's money. Quarterback. Quarterback yeah, money, money, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think Gordon is basically a veteran's minimum. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a seven hundred thousand dollars player, right, and that is
Speaker 1: willing to play for See. This is this is where Okay,
Speaker 1: now I'll give the Patriots credit for this. They give
Speaker 1: a f but if Josh Gordon doesn't work out, they
Speaker 1: get a seventh back. So what you're doing is you're
Speaker 1: taking look at a guy if he works great, But
Speaker 1: it always I thought the details were if he plays
Speaker 1: ten games, I'm saying that's what I'm saying, They're gonna
Speaker 1: get a free look at a guy and and if
Speaker 1: if in six weeks he reverts back to Josh Gordon.
Speaker 1: We've known for the last five years the Patriots will
Speaker 1: get their fifth back. They will, Plus they hear that
Speaker 1: part of it, Plus they get their seventh back. They're
Speaker 1: going to get a seventh back from from Cleveland just
Speaker 1: for the rental. That's why people were asking why didn't
Speaker 1: the Cowboys get in on this, But again because they don't.
Speaker 1: They don't have nothing to do with the trade value
Speaker 1: locker room. I'm just I was gonna finish my own. Sorry,
Speaker 1: it's more. It's more it's about intangibles and now a
Speaker 1: lot on this show, don't Yeah, that's me and Nicky
Speaker 1: gonna jump on a lot. Well there's like there's like
Speaker 1: a three second timerund me until I get interrupted. But
Speaker 1: I just I do apologize. And the other acquisition news yesterday,
Speaker 1: of course, Dan Bailey was head into Minnesota for a
Speaker 1: physical spot. That was so easy to predict once Daniel Carlson,
Speaker 1: their fifth round draft pick this year. About that maybe
Speaker 1: missed his third field goal in overtime in a twenty
Speaker 1: nine twenty nine tie in Green Bay. Maybe not that
Speaker 1: that difficult because somebody asked Mike Zimmer, was it a
Speaker 1: hard decision to make? You know what? His answer was,
Speaker 1: did you watch the game? That was? That was incredible?
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this, Zim.
Speaker 1: I love Mike, I really really do. But is that
Speaker 1: the best way to handle that particular question. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean that, I'm just saying, though, is it? Is
Speaker 1: it right though to hammer the kid like that? Carlson?
Speaker 1: I appreciate his brother, mister field Gold in the LSU
Speaker 1: game the other day too. Thank you very much for
Speaker 1: doing that. Carlson family considering kids trying to get a
Speaker 1: job somewhere else. Now, you know what, I think Mike
Speaker 1: didn't think of that part of it. It was like,
Speaker 1: why did you ask me that stupid question towards the media? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think he was trying. Yeah. I think it's one
Speaker 1: of those things where you say, you know what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we used to draft pick on the kid. We obviously
Speaker 1: thought a lot of him. It didn't work out, you know,
Speaker 1: we hope that especially where the Vikings are. The Vikings
Speaker 1: are planning to be in Atlanta. Yeah, and I picked
Speaker 1: him to be in Atlanta. And and so you can't
Speaker 1: even if you spent a fifth round pick on a kicker.
Speaker 1: I mean, you might be able to even resign your
Speaker 1: practice squad if you'll if he's you know, maybe he's
Speaker 1: later today, Maybe he's just playing pissed off that they
Speaker 1: blew a chance to win a game at Green Bike,
Speaker 1: and it's well, he has no one to blame but himself.
Speaker 1: He's the guy who drafted the kicker. Parah if that's
Speaker 1: if you know, if you want to be all crappy,
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't know he was. Rick Spielman, trust Rick
Speaker 1: and him. I trust me sitting next to him as
Speaker 1: a senior Bowl, he's telling Rick everything he wants. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a guy. That's a guy, and a guy that's
Speaker 1: you know. But Rick's done a nice job of love
Speaker 1: Rick Spielman, Right, He's done a fine job. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think that you know, hey, you know, look at
Speaker 1: yourself when you're you know, maybe you should be disappointed
Speaker 1: in your you for picking the kid. You know, did
Speaker 1: you watch the game? Yeah? Did you watch the draft?
Speaker 1: You picked him back? That's what I would have said,
Speaker 1: you know, I would have what right did you watch
Speaker 1: the yeld have did great? Yeah? If Zimmer answers that
Speaker 1: reporter and say, did you watch the game? Did the
Speaker 1: reporter came back with, did you watch the draft? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Mike would have loved that one. No, but you know
Speaker 1: what it's do you like your job? Yeah? And and
Speaker 1: actuality though that you know you have to when you
Speaker 1: standing up there and talking about things, you have to
Speaker 1: be a little mindful of that. You know, you're you're
Speaker 1: the one that picked the kid. You are, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're acting all crummy about it, Mike. I love Mike,
Speaker 1: I really do. And I would say it to his face.
Speaker 1: I go, you're the one that drafted him. I would
Speaker 1: it saved to his face. What if Garrett had said
Speaker 1: that about Bailey after camp? Did you watch training camp?
Speaker 1: Was it a tough decision? Now, it's pretty easy, Bret
Speaker 1: matter was a lot better. That would have been. That
Speaker 1: would have made huge Just see, that's the thing about it.
Speaker 1: He couldn't say that because by Bailey was Bailey was
Speaker 1: not bad. That's not Jason's personality. If Bailey's yanking kicks right,
Speaker 1: and let you know, yanking him, yank, you know, missing
Speaker 1: him and he's you know, it's like damn, Dan's he's done,
Speaker 1: He's done, you know. But you're the one that drafted
Speaker 1: that kid. It's a great spot for Dan. I think
Speaker 1: it's a great spot. It's a good team, Psycho coach.
Speaker 1: They got a chance to go to the the super Bowl
Speaker 1: this year. I think they're kicking indoors. Although he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to kick in some cold weather places probably, but
Speaker 1: he's passing true. Chicago is the only one in Chicago. Yeah, Chicago.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna act like I know with the Viking
Speaker 1: schedule is detroits indoors? Yeah, yeah, all right, we're just
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Speaker 1: First time I did? This season, this season I did.
Speaker 1: I was just interested to see what the h what
Speaker 1: Seattle was going to roll out there? And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it looks like they I've got the tape upstairs. Now.
Speaker 1: It's good to watch, but it looks like they've got
Speaker 1: some issues clearly on the offensive line, and you know
Speaker 1: they were missing some key people defensively, so really the
Speaker 1: shell of a team that probably they wanted to roll
Speaker 1: out there, but you know a team that nevertheless, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with some some still some some
Speaker 1: key players on that team that can make life a
Speaker 1: little difficult for you. Do you think DeMarcus Lawrence and
Speaker 1: others on the the hot boys were licking their chops
Speaker 1: last night? We have to use that. Not like that, Mick.
Speaker 1: You don't like old school rapt boy. You know what,
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of similarities to what the Giants
Speaker 1: went through here a couple of nights, you and I,
Speaker 1: we're gonna use hot boys just to get under Mickey's
Speaker 1: how we spelling boys? Oh, it's gonna have a z
Speaker 1: with it. Jason wouldn't had a couple of phrases the
Speaker 1: other night, Yes he did. I was just looking them up.
Speaker 1: I was trying to remember them. Storm the castle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, storm the castle. And she's in reference to
Speaker 1: just swarming Russell Wilson right, way too many rushers that
Speaker 1: they can handle the ball. Term and there was another
Speaker 1: one about elephants, I believe, but an Elephants on Parade
Speaker 1: used for the same sentence basically storming the castle and
Speaker 1: Elephants on Parade, which was everybody goes left and the
Speaker 1: play went right right the Elephants on Parade, Yes, the
Speaker 1: big uglies up front, Yeah, all went left. Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: had some protection issues last night, so I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's something that we'll see now. The difference is Eliza
Speaker 1: sitting duck. Let's be honest, yes, and Russell Wilson is
Speaker 1: as good as any body in the league at avoiding
Speaker 1: scrambling and just buy an extra time. I'm interested to
Speaker 1: see go back and watch the Denver game that they
Speaker 1: played in Week one. That's where I want to see
Speaker 1: where if in fact, because we didn't really hear about
Speaker 1: with von Miller in that group, I think I'm right
Speaker 1: about that. How much pressure were If you said who
Speaker 1: would be the better pass rushers in the league, I
Speaker 1: think that maybe Denver's pass rush would be more more
Speaker 1: ferocious than what the Bears. I know the Bears have
Speaker 1: done a nice job with Cleil Mack. Yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: interested to see. Okay, how did they protect against the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos in Week one or did they have those
Speaker 1: issues carry over into this. Sacks both games, six sacks
Speaker 1: both games. Okay, he through for two hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: eight yards and three touchdowns against Denver. Right, So, as
Speaker 1: badly as the protection was that, they did do something
Speaker 1: and they did score twenty four points. But last night
Speaker 1: that looked like Russell Wilson and the other twenty one
Speaker 1: and by the way, he just seemed to be out
Speaker 1: there operating there you go. Yeah right, Nick, Yeah, if
Speaker 1: it's six and six, I'm having to make plays. Although
Speaker 1: the tight end looked like he may have a little
Speaker 1: something will justly yeah from the draft show. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that with Seattle, you're always going to have
Speaker 1: to deal with Russell Wilson. That's gonna be the plan.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna hear me to talk about this this
Speaker 1: bunch this week. You know, with the protection clearly an issue,
Speaker 1: but the second chance plays with him in the pocket,
Speaker 1: his ability to move, the ability to scramble. I've always
Speaker 1: believed this about Russell Wilson. You have to make him
Speaker 1: play backwards. You can't let him play going forward. And
Speaker 1: what I mean going forward is and we saw what
Speaker 1: happened in the pocket him he's scrambling at late in
Speaker 1: the game he gets hit, the ball's not but that's
Speaker 1: him going forward. He's trying to make plays. When Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson has his problems is when he's going straight back.
Speaker 1: He's not a pocket passer. And when he can set
Speaker 1: his feet and throw, he could be a little bit better.
Speaker 1: But if you make him have to play off the
Speaker 1: back of his back foot and go backwards, he doesn't
Speaker 1: get enough on the football. It tends to make some mistakes.
Speaker 1: But uh, he's going to take a beating in these games.
Speaker 1: And you know, and and shame on John Snyder for
Speaker 1: for not trying to help him. I mean, they've got
Speaker 1: some They've got some guys. I mean he's he tried
Speaker 1: to make a trade for Duwayne Brown from the from
Speaker 1: the the Texans, you know, and and that that has
Speaker 1: really worked out for him. He drafted Ethan Postic from LSU,
Speaker 1: who's really more of a center than he is a guard.
Speaker 1: He drafted him in the second round. Uh, Justin Britt
Speaker 1: has played for him for since twenty fourteen. He was
Speaker 1: a second round pick. DJ Fluker, you know, came from
Speaker 1: the Giants. He was at San Diego initially and then
Speaker 1: the Giants, and then you know it was kind of
Speaker 1: really come a just a big, heavy footed guy. But
Speaker 1: he always had man I always thought that he would yeah,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't. He wasn't the right tackle. Now you're
Speaker 1: playing him at guard and he's not very quick. And
Speaker 1: then ia Fetti. Ia Fetti was a first round pick
Speaker 1: and on backed up in the draft when he could
Speaker 1: have taken John could have drafted a Ram Chick, the
Speaker 1: fine tackle that's playing for the Saints. So that's on
Speaker 1: that's on Snyder for his offensive line problems. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not from a lack of trying. He's just done
Speaker 1: a bad job of evaluating his line and their ability
Speaker 1: to play. And it's it's it's gonna cost Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: It's amazing to me he gets up after every play
Speaker 1: because he takes some some wicked shots. You know, I
Speaker 1: Fetti or however you say it's Texas A and n him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Fetti. Yes, So he so he fooled John. How
Speaker 1: about his first three weeks of this season. He got
Speaker 1: Von Miller the first week, Khalil Back the second, and
Speaker 1: now he gets to Marcus Lawrence this week. You know
Speaker 1: when Brian talks about Wilson going forward too. It's not
Speaker 1: forward around the edges. It's right up the middle, right
Speaker 1: up the middle. Yeah, So the Cowboys have to be
Speaker 1: very careful if they want to be aggressive run of
Speaker 1: Russian the quarterback, you better stay in your lanes and
Speaker 1: again have some contentment, because that's what I saw last
Speaker 1: night when he was running. It was right off the gap.
Speaker 1: Discipline rushes and what Rod always says is to keep
Speaker 1: him in the well and keep him in the well.
Speaker 1: And you know, Rods, they've done a decent job against
Speaker 1: him in recent years. Last last year, I don't he
Speaker 1: made some clutch throws last year on Christmas Eve, but
Speaker 1: I don't think he hadn't he may have had like
Speaker 1: one hundred yards thirteen twelve games. Was one of those
Speaker 1: deals game, you know. L Yeah, see that's I kind
Speaker 1: of felt like the game. I mean, Trubisky was making
Speaker 1: some plays, but they still until the pick six, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's amazing that they can give up six
Speaker 1: sacks and hanging football games. It's the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: So you know, this one, this one could very well
Speaker 1: be on the Cowboys offense. You know, can and you
Speaker 1: know can you have the type of game plan where
Speaker 1: you can run the football. We have some success throwing
Speaker 1: and yeah, and it sounds like Bobby Wagner will be back,
Speaker 1: so you know you better be ready for You know,
Speaker 1: this team has done not a very good job of
Speaker 1: blocking that Mic linebacker the last couple of weeks. Like Mike,
Speaker 1: linebackers have been able to make tackles. I know, Luke
Speaker 1: Keekley's a rare player, but you look at Ogletree and
Speaker 1: what he was able to do. He had several tackles
Speaker 1: in this game. And you know, if you don't block
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, then you're not going to run the football
Speaker 1: twenty one twelve. They lost to him last year, and
Speaker 1: this surprised me. I should have known it when I
Speaker 1: was looking at the scores from last year. It was
Speaker 1: the only game the Cowboys lost when they didn't give
Speaker 1: up at least twenty seven points. Yeah. All the other
Speaker 1: losses were twenty seven points or more. So they were
Speaker 1: staggedant offensively. In the first game Z even those was back,
Speaker 1: they still was a continuation pass protection. He was kind
Speaker 1: of back, I guess, yeah, first game back. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you you thought Witton made improvement this week I described
Speaker 1: those he had some witnesssms last Yeah he did, and
Speaker 1: that's good. That brings out his personality. I thought I
Speaker 1: only watched maybe like the part of the first half,
Speaker 1: but when he's drawn up stuff and all along and
Speaker 1: watching him in the preseason, I say, well, let's wait
Speaker 1: till the regular season because those endgame situations and talking football,
Speaker 1: that's what will be his strength. Most comfortable doing that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: circling out things and what he's seeing on a previous play,
Speaker 1: that's where he shines. And what I could hear. I
Speaker 1: mean it was basically the fourth quarter by time I
Speaker 1: got home, but he seemed more relaxed. He seemed more
Speaker 1: like it wasn't scripted or trite. And I thought the
Speaker 1: three of them mixed a lot better than kind of
Speaker 1: stumbling all over each other. Well, it's hard when they're
Speaker 1: not all in the booth together. Can't put the face,
Speaker 1: give me some face, camera, please, here we go. You
Speaker 1: didn't think so, though. I think that Witton did fine.
Speaker 1: I don't like Booker McFarland on the field. I don't
Speaker 1: like that. I don't like that dynamic there. Yeah, I think, well,
Speaker 1: I think book McFarland brings some things. I think that
Speaker 1: you know his clearly his training in the SEC network
Speaker 1: has helped him. But I don't like the I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a disjointed broadcast. And you know I would,
Speaker 1: I would not, And I love following. He's an LSU guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta love LSU guys. But I just
Speaker 1: would like for them to ride Jason Witton as the
Speaker 1: analyst here, right, I really would. I would like to
Speaker 1: hear him have more opinions about what's going on with
Speaker 1: the game. I think happens with the open mic is
Speaker 1: the the guy on the field doesn't know what That's
Speaker 1: what you're saying. You said that last week. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that to me. Take take that element out, take
Speaker 1: the other analysts out, and just and focus in on Witton.
Speaker 1: Let him be the guy that shines for you. But
Speaker 1: testa tour can set him up, but make sure you
Speaker 1: do that. See that's the other thing that Romo has
Speaker 1: going for him is with Jim can set you up
Speaker 1: all day, So you can set him up all day.
Speaker 1: And nance he's got you know, two decades if not
Speaker 1: three decades in the network boot He's not trying to
Speaker 1: prove himself, you know, And so, and credit Jim Nance
Speaker 1: for even changing the way he calls a game in
Speaker 1: order for a Romo to shine, right. And and I
Speaker 1: know Joe Tessa tour from when he in turned for
Speaker 1: US twenty five years ago. But for anybody, it's your
Speaker 1: first opportunity call an NFL games right Monday night football stage,
Speaker 1: and it's you're not necessarily your main priority, although it
Speaker 1: should be. Is what the rookie analysts in setting him up,
Speaker 1: because you're proving yourself as well. I mean, you've got
Speaker 1: three guys that are trying to make their way at
Speaker 1: the same time. You know, and think about Aikman when
Speaker 1: he started. You know, he was with guys that had
Speaker 1: done the job right. He didn't have to break in
Speaker 1: with a new play by play guy. Right, And you're
Speaker 1: you're more relaxed than the play by play guy. I'll
Speaker 1: set you up. I've been around long enough, I made
Speaker 1: my way. I'm gonna help you out. And it's a
Speaker 1: different test as a different personality. It's right, let's go
Speaker 1: to Brandon in Ohio. You're up on talking Cowboys. Hello Brandon, Hello,
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. Guys. Sure, um so, if
Speaker 1: the Seattle game coming up, I've heard you guys talk
Speaker 1: about how you think after this week will be the
Speaker 1: week that there might be potential to actually make a
Speaker 1: trade for Earl Thomas. I don't think say that, but
Speaker 1: go ahead. I think I've heard Brian Ferry probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: be untill after a week, it wouldn't It clearly wouldn't
Speaker 1: be after the game. Yeah, exactly. Um So I was thinking,
Speaker 1: in the interest of thinking outside the box a little bit,
Speaker 1: what would you guys think about the potential to move
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis to safety trade for Earl Thomas and trade
Speaker 1: the way Xavier Woods and a late really late round
Speaker 1: picks and the interest of you know, Earl Thomas the
Speaker 1: third being your safety of right now and rooming Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis to be your safety of its cher since he's
Speaker 1: not a good scheme fit for a corner, but he
Speaker 1: looks like he could be a great transition to safety.
Speaker 1: Um So that's my question. I'll hang up unless you
Speaker 1: guys talk about it. It's a safety he built like
Speaker 1: a safety well, I built similar intangibles to h L Thomas.
Speaker 1: The third like Earl's a bigger, bigger body. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he is a bigger don't know that I want a
Speaker 1: five nine safety. No, he's five ten, five ten, I
Speaker 1: think that's yeah, he's built different, though, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I don't know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: Bob Sanders, Ye, Bob Sanders will blow you up. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you know when you talk about those
Speaker 1: safeties like that, Um, Paulo Malo's the Earl Thomas's the
Speaker 1: Eric Berry's great instinctual players. I don't know if necessarily
Speaker 1: if if Jordan Lewis is a great instinctual player, and
Speaker 1: I think that to me. If, by the way, if
Speaker 1: I'm making the Seattle trade, they're not getting my two,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you had a chance, you're not getting it now.
Speaker 1: I was thinking, I was Here's what I was thinking
Speaker 1: in regards to if it ever became a possibility. When
Speaker 1: you see the Seahawks now fall to O and two,
Speaker 1: they have no lever to say they lose this week
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys. They're now oh and three. That third
Speaker 1: round pick looks pretty good now. Yeah. See, this is
Speaker 1: where I'm saying. My thing is, do you want my
Speaker 1: third round pick now? Or do you want to wait
Speaker 1: till two and twenty and get that third round pick?
Speaker 1: When Earl Thomas signed somewhere else. That's the that's the
Speaker 1: that's what John Snyder has to come to grips with now.
Speaker 1: And in the compensatory Yeah, you had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: take my two. You didn't take my two, So I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: it's not I'm not going to offer my two to
Speaker 1: you again. With that being said, I don't I feel
Speaker 1: like though you need to keep Jordan Lewis at corner.
Speaker 1: Mickey's made a point before and Bill maybe Rob as
Speaker 1: well about injuries and things that happened as the season
Speaker 1: goes on, keep him in that spot. Let him just
Speaker 1: to keep practice, seeing as that corner that they're not
Speaker 1: using him. Anthony Brown played has played really actually pretty
Speaker 1: well the last couple of weeks. So George's your fourth corner,
Speaker 1: keeping Xavier Woods. You know he's going to be back
Speaker 1: in the mix. You know you're comfortable with him. But
Speaker 1: the longer this thing goes I don't think you necessarily
Speaker 1: going to trade for Earl Thomas, you know, not if
Speaker 1: not a Frasier and and Heath and those guys continue
Speaker 1: to play pretty well. And if you get if now,
Speaker 1: if Frasier becomes a backup guy and you know, he
Speaker 1: you can put him in some situations. I'm I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm gonna trade for something. I'm looking for
Speaker 1: offensive help. Defense is your strength right now, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not worried. I'm not worried about a safety. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm looking. Okay, And this is this goes back to
Speaker 1: the seven you know, seven wide receivers that you you could,
Speaker 1: you know, potentially have on the roster. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I'm looking what about tight end?
Speaker 1: What about is there some is there somebody? Is there
Speaker 1: something I can do better there at tight end? If
Speaker 1: I'm going to give a a pick, a late round
Speaker 1: pick or a middle round pick or whatever, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of thinking about looking at a tight end than i
Speaker 1: am anything else. I'm sorry, by the way, talking Earl
Speaker 1: Thomas versus Jordan Lewis. Yeah, I just looked up their
Speaker 1: dimensions from when they came into the league at the
Speaker 1: scouting combine five ten and even five ten for Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis one eighty eight. He's one ninety five now, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: but he came in at one eighty eight, yeah, and
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas came in at five ten oh two two
Speaker 1: o eight twenty pounds. He's just thicker player. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: one eighty eight or one more instincts, I would say, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean he's really good safeties. You watch him play.
Speaker 1: That's why Jeff Heath can you know, Jeff Heath is
Speaker 1: guidability and he's got speed. But Jeff Heath is learning
Speaker 1: how to play with some instinct He's learning how to positions.
Speaker 1: Positions Byron Jones had different Byron. Yeah, Byron Jones wasn't
Speaker 1: the most instinctual player, but you put him at corner
Speaker 1: and let you know, Byron Jones is getting a really
Speaker 1: nice feel of how to play routes up the field,
Speaker 1: you know. And and and the way that Christier Chardon those
Speaker 1: guys are teaching him is don't look back for the ball,
Speaker 1: wait for the guy to put his hands up, and
Speaker 1: you put your hands up at the same time. So
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of you know, a little positive
Speaker 1: but you know, they're going to get to a point
Speaker 1: where maybe they don't need Earl Thomas. And and that's
Speaker 1: that's hard for me to say because I'm from the
Speaker 1: point of trying to help the secondary itself. But if
Speaker 1: these guys continue to kind of continue to play at
Speaker 1: a level that is is a good level, then giving
Speaker 1: that pick up. If you want Earl Thomas at the
Speaker 1: end of the summer or at the end of the year,
Speaker 1: maybe that's the best way to get He is going
Speaker 1: to be injuries. I mean he already had one with
Speaker 1: Woods and he almost got hurt at the end of
Speaker 1: that game the other day. Yeah, right, but you could
Speaker 1: kind of Okay, what if Heath goes Let me ask
Speaker 1: you this sixth one took to twelve. By the way,
Speaker 1: on Heath, he's bigger than people think. He can run too.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing about him, is he when you
Speaker 1: and you know the other day, I mean they had
Speaker 1: a difficult I'm tackling that Barkley guy. I mean he
Speaker 1: I mean, guys would get to him, and and that's
Speaker 1: the great thing is that at least they had bodies
Speaker 1: to him. Right, You've got it. You've got to try
Speaker 1: and bring those guys. And even though Heath wasn't able
Speaker 1: to bring him down on first contact whatever, he slowed
Speaker 1: them up a little bit where help was on its way.
Speaker 1: The second wave got him. Yeah, that's right. A lot
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Speaker 1: of different things. Are you goody great? Tuesday? Tuesday is
Speaker 1: a good day. There's a lot of different things around
Speaker 1: the league in fact, and one thing around the league
Speaker 1: and penalties around the league. Yes, did y'all see the
Speaker 1: Vikings Packers game? I did, Yes, Okay, the Clay Matthews
Speaker 1: yes on Cousins. Yes. How could they defend the unbelievable?
Speaker 1: The league did defend it, though what I say, They said,
Speaker 1: that's the way it should be officiated. Yeah, how is
Speaker 1: that a penalty? I don't know. And and and you guys,
Speaker 1: I'm glad everybody's catching up to the life that I
Speaker 1: had to leave for lead for thirteen years of dealing
Speaker 1: with NFL officials, and that the fact that calls are
Speaker 1: made and they get on a plane and fly first
Speaker 1: class and wreck somebody else's life. You know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean that game is I don't know. I know.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you. I'm telling I don't. I do
Speaker 1: not understand officiating anymore. I really don't. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: There's things that happen in games now that I and
Speaker 1: now back in the day, and I don't mean to
Speaker 1: be that guy all the time, but there were there
Speaker 1: are calls that are made today that I just I cringe.
Speaker 1: So are they are they saying that he drove? He drove?
Speaker 1: They basically tackled, He tackled, did and he did not
Speaker 1: drive him into the ground. Now, I think that they
Speaker 1: were probably so on point for that because teams that
Speaker 1: Tony and anything in Rogers the previous year, and they
Speaker 1: were they were priority that we gotta be on the
Speaker 1: lookout for the Packers getting payback there. There are there
Speaker 1: are referees in this league that do that overly protect quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and Tony Currente is one of them. He will, he will,
Speaker 1: He is a You gotta understand where this is the game.
Speaker 1: I know you and this is gonna understand. This makes
Speaker 1: a difference in who wins the game and he didn't
Speaker 1: telling me he didn't go low. Yeah, he just didn't
Speaker 1: straight ahead. He didn't pick him up. It just tackled him.
Speaker 1: It's you know, and that's where you know, Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: will not. I mean, he stood up the podium yesterday
Speaker 1: and there were a couple of the holding calls and
Speaker 1: I get it, you know, but sometimes you just gotta
Speaker 1: let these guys play and these officials. It's not always
Speaker 1: the case. You just you know it. Don't put yourself
Speaker 1: in a game where it's division rivals and both teams
Speaker 1: and they're fighting, you know, don't you make the call
Speaker 1: that's gonna flip the game one way to it. Just
Speaker 1: let the players decide the game. And especially if Carlson
Speaker 1: makes a field goal at the end of the game
Speaker 1: and it took a turned a law a win into
Speaker 1: a loss, and as it was, they turned to win
Speaker 1: into a tipe, right, you know. And the other thing
Speaker 1: that's happening now is for offensive lineman, don't dare bury
Speaker 1: the guy because you're gonna get called for holding. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not my fault that you can't stand
Speaker 1: up on your own two feet when I block you.
Speaker 1: And then you take a die so little soccer move
Speaker 1: be soccer, you're gonna getting Hell, we're gonna see soccer. No,
Speaker 1: you got pancaked. Yeah, well you did the layout Collins one.
Speaker 1: He punished that. You literally could call holding on every
Speaker 1: single play in every game, every week. And so when
Speaker 1: it happened, when it happens out in the open, that
Speaker 1: that's that's the worst part, right yep. And that's the
Speaker 1: same thing happened to Swain too. By the way it
Speaker 1: was out in the open, I could see his His
Speaker 1: was a little bit more of like bulldog move. I
Speaker 1: can see why they called that though the Sway move
Speaker 1: was turned around. They see him and he's got him
Speaker 1: at Nelson. Yeah, I mean on film that one, that
Speaker 1: one was worse than the Layo Collins one. But you
Speaker 1: probably didn't have to get to the law Collins one.
Speaker 1: If you weren't gonna have to throw. If you get
Speaker 1: that first down, you're probably gonna just keep running the ball.
Speaker 1: But the officials those were two first down plays, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: both of them, both of them. Yeah, the run was
Speaker 1: a first down and then the third and eleven was
Speaker 1: which it was a really nice pass play too, from
Speaker 1: the pocket. Absolutely okay. Now the other thing from Sunday
Speaker 1: Sunday night, you were at the game, yes, okay, so
Speaker 1: you were watching the game and not necessarily watching a
Speaker 1: TV monitor. Yeah, you probably watch it for replace I
Speaker 1: had it was at the game, Bran, and so you
Speaker 1: are watching on TV. I'm just going to repeat some
Speaker 1: tweets from me on Sunday night, which Rob knows where
Speaker 1: this is going. I first tweeted, if we wanted to
Speaker 1: see the end zone view, we'd buy a seat in
Speaker 1: the end zone. What's going on here? And then I
Speaker 1: said I retweeted that and said, what happened? Did NBC
Speaker 1: lose its cameras and have to use the end zone view?
Speaker 1: And then I said, I have no idea what happened
Speaker 1: on that Cowboys series because I was sitting in the
Speaker 1: end zone. And then Rob retweets me and says, well,
Speaker 1: he says, Bill is so upset he's retweeting himself, folks.
Speaker 1: I said, I rate spending this whole commercial break going
Speaker 1: back and trying to figure out what just happened yourself?
Speaker 1: Why did they show the end zone view on the live?
Speaker 1: I love the end zone to go back and look
Speaker 1: at the play. It's for replay purposes, but I have
Speaker 1: to see how much yardage is being gained on the play.
Speaker 1: So that's why we'd buy a fifty yard line seat
Speaker 1: and not an end zone seat to deal with the
Speaker 1: green zone. Two. Have you seen that? Harrison chimes in?
Speaker 1: That's a whole other one too. Why are we tricking
Speaker 1: this up? So did they keep it for the whole
Speaker 1: play the whole series? And apparently this is something there's
Speaker 1: almost like playing Madden. They're new computer. I guess I
Speaker 1: missed that. It was well, it was second quarter. Somebody
Speaker 1: tweeting me and said, it looks like it's kind of
Speaker 1: that All twenty two y'all were talking about during the week,
Speaker 1: but maybe it's not as really good a great I
Speaker 1: love All twenty two, but I don't want to see
Speaker 1: the All twenty two live because I want to see
Speaker 1: what happened on the play first, and then yeah, those
Speaker 1: are those innovations are for replay and that way you
Speaker 1: can go see what happened. It was very It was
Speaker 1: very video game like. If you and I have a
Speaker 1: fourteen year old, fifteen year old son that watched his
Speaker 1: play as Madden, and so I understand when you when
Speaker 1: you watch him on TV on the big screen. That's
Speaker 1: the view he gets to the game. The ball goes
Speaker 1: to the sidelines. You really can't tell if he caught
Speaker 1: it or not. You know, So, was it a low
Speaker 1: twenty two? Oh, it's a high? Was it up high?
Speaker 1: He could see everybody? Yeah? Yeah, But what you can't
Speaker 1: tell it wasn't second deck high, it was lower bowl high.
Speaker 1: If it was second deck high, you could see everything.
Speaker 1: And then you could see the yard lins exactly to
Speaker 1: see how many yards they put you. They basically gave
Speaker 1: you a view from the field suites. So what I
Speaker 1: saw a lot was they they started behind the play
Speaker 1: and then they switched camera, and I don't know why
Speaker 1: we're doing that, and so I started yelling at my TV,
Speaker 1: why are we doing this? It did finally that gave
Speaker 1: me the side view. Good. I feel better, not the
Speaker 1: only one that yell. I think. The thing they're trying
Speaker 1: to do is everybody's real big now and telling you
Speaker 1: what personnel's on the field. That's what yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: they're trying to tell you that. If I can tell
Speaker 1: what personnel's on the field from the side too, if
Speaker 1: you're if you're in twelve personnel or eleven personnel and
Speaker 1: all that. But they're trying to get everybody. These broadcasts
Speaker 1: are really big now on the next gen stats and
Speaker 1: things like that. That's you know, Pro Football focus. They
Speaker 1: didn't do enough of that on the season opener. That's
Speaker 1: all I can say. When I had to watch on TV,
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell the personnel just trying to trick it up, man,
Speaker 1: just trying to you know, maybe you're trying to peel
Speaker 1: a younger crowd. Like you said, maybe Bennett would like
Speaker 1: that better at that Lets in a replay then, But
Speaker 1: there's no question I think that's exactly who Rob's right.
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to. I think they're trying to
Speaker 1: draw a younger group of audience. I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of sports are worrying about the younger audience, unless
Speaker 1: it's the X game stuff, unless it's skateboarding or half
Speaker 1: pipe or you know, you're you're not you're not gonna
Speaker 1: have Yeah, you're right, absolutely right, You're not gonna have
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, do they do the end
Speaker 1: zone view of the skateboarding they have that, Well, well,
Speaker 1: they showed, they showed the pipe. You know, they show
Speaker 1: the guys in the gals doing all that love that stuff.
Speaker 1: But they wait. There'll be a camera on the top
Speaker 1: before they jump off and you'll see them from behind. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I think I think television, Bill, you're in
Speaker 1: the industry. I think television is worried about the demographics
Speaker 1: they definitely are. Yeah, thats be what he thinks. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe he maybe he would enjoy that more, bite would
Speaker 1: watch the game regardless. The problem will be they don't
Speaker 1: have enough kids like my son, who's a psycho football guy.
Speaker 1: That's true. You know, Bennett loves football. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of kids that don't love football. You know. That's and
Speaker 1: and why they play lacrosse and nothing wrong with that,
Speaker 1: or they're playing FIFA soccer on video games watching. Just
Speaker 1: warn them because in ten years or fifteen years, they'll
Speaker 1: kick them to the curb and they'll come up with
Speaker 1: something new for the other fifteen year olds. All Right,
Speaker 1: We have buried the lead for this segment. Rob Phillips
Speaker 1: as no Rob Phillips ufore breaking news from Bryce Butler.
Speaker 1: He has spoken. We got a tweet from DJ duffel
Speaker 1: Bag he hashtagged at Duffington Post. Wow I never thought
Speaker 1: this would go down, but God's will always wins. Dallas,
Speaker 1: y'all ready to make this thing happen. I'm back to
Speaker 1: exclamation points. Now it's not official. Obviously, they got to
Speaker 1: make a move to make it happen. But he did
Speaker 1: he say, are you ready to make this happen, Dallas?
Speaker 1: Or y'all ready to make this thing happen. He's got
Speaker 1: there and make some plays encouraging him to sign him
Speaker 1: or they've signed him, and he's telling Dallas, I'm here.
Speaker 1: He says he's back. Okay, he's under the impression that
Speaker 1: he's going to be on the roster. I think, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: now they got to make a move. Now, what were
Speaker 1: his comments when he left? Basically said that the uh
Speaker 1: that he wasn't gonna he would They ask him if
Speaker 1: he was ever gonna come back, and he said, I'm
Speaker 1: never coming back. Hearing was I start because they hadn't
Speaker 1: released des yet, right, Yeah, there was a beef with Dez,
Speaker 1: and I think once that situation where he's alved itself,
Speaker 1: the door was wide open again. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: he does not need a starting spot. He is back, well,
Speaker 1: he needs a job. He's been promised as he's been
Speaker 1: promised a starting position. No, he needs a job, that's
Speaker 1: number one, you know. And he needs to come in
Speaker 1: here with hat in hand or any duffel bagging or
Speaker 1: what his backpack in hand. You know, if they're gonna
Speaker 1: if they're gonna make this move, you know, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's they're not gonna dress seven wide receivers. Now there's somebody.
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna sit, you know. And and again we've kind
Speaker 1: of speculated that could it be something happened with Terrence Williams.
Speaker 1: Let's see how that. But they're not gonna dress seven
Speaker 1: wide receivers. But when he gets an opportunity, he needs
Speaker 1: to go make plays. He does. He needs to make
Speaker 1: those plays down the field. The catches that he can
Speaker 1: make down the field, those things are all good that
Speaker 1: he can do. But he doesn't need to get penalties
Speaker 1: blocking the back, you know, too many men in the
Speaker 1: huddle or whatever else for that. Well, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: when we look at things that happened during the game,
Speaker 1: who does it happened too, Yeah, it happens to the
Speaker 1: number nineteen. And he needs to catch the ball, and
Speaker 1: he needs to catch the ball. That's exactly right. If
Speaker 1: that ball is going down the field he needs. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to remember the one catch he made in a
Speaker 1: game extended over his head. He fell on his rear.
Speaker 1: It was late in the season, I can't remember, but
Speaker 1: it's along the sidelines. He needs to make those plays.
Speaker 1: He can't go down the field and drop a ball,
Speaker 1: or take a slant and drop the ball, or take
Speaker 1: a dig route or an in cut and drop the ball.
Speaker 1: If they're going to bring you in here and sign
Speaker 1: you to try and early in the season to try
Speaker 1: and help this team when you get opportunity, don't fail.
Speaker 1: His lease for me is okay. So we'll look for
Speaker 1: that breaking news at three o'clock this afternoon. We'll see
Speaker 1: you heard it here from Rob Phillips and you heard
Speaker 1: it first from Bryce Butler DJ Duffel. Yeah, thank you,
Speaker 1: Tommy John. Yes, thank you very much, Tommy John. And
Speaker 1: we will see you in tomorrow. I'm talking Owboys. This
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