WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Why Add Another Receiver? 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:05.720 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:17.120 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.960 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:33.559 Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bronis, Rob Phillips, 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:38.400 and Bill Jones, and welcome to Talking Cowboys on a Tuesday. 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:41.280 And time waits for no one. We are not waiting 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:45.440 for Mickey Spagnola. We're getting started with Talking Cowboys and 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:48.960 Mickey will be along shortly after he completes his duties 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:53.960 on the fan locally in Dallas for worth. Hello, Rob Phillips, Hello, Brian, 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.520 brought us so jonesy Tuesday. Have you back? Happy to 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:00.480 be back. Took care of some things at home yesterday. 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:04.240 There you go, some plumbing issues part of the problem yesterday. 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:09.920 Not personal, but that's kitchen to say. Oh and here 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:17.120 comes the grand entrance from Mickey sa and right off 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.960 the top. As as Mickey gets his headset on, we'll 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:22.360 have a Mickey's minute for you and he'll recap what 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:27.160 he said to the fan locally and piss you off. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.480 I guess I didn't have to tell Kent to like 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.200 get the cameras away, so I can just sneak in 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:37.840 and sit down. No entrance, and you spoke of Kent, 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.600 Kent Garrison taking your phone calls. Give us a call 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.840 eight eight five five to two nine seven. How are 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.600 the guys on the fan this morning? Well, Jerry had 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:51.360 to go late, I heard Jerry, yes, so uh it 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:53.640 kind of led over to when I was supposed to 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.720 see so you didn't get as much time because of Jerry. No, 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.800 they just got pushed back on. Those guys trained to 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.800 let me get here by night. Okay, about that? All right? 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:06.960 Well good, and you listen to Jerry I did, okay, 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.240 and he breaking news from Jerry this morning here in 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:14.080 the last half hour. Not no, no, he kind of 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.720 reiterated what we heard from Jason yesterday. I think they 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:21.320 feel optimistic about Gregory and maybe Xavier Woods getting back 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.760 for week three and and Jason also with I'll just 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:26.639 go ahead and update the injuries and think Mallee Collins 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.200 has a shot to get back into practice. We'll see. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.399 He did sprain his knee in the game. So they've 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.560 got some injuries, and particularly some injuries on that defensive 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:38.320 line up front. But again, Dayton Jones has a chance 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:39.920 to get back too, So at the same time they 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.160 might get some pieces back, but they're pretty We're talking 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.480 about sign and receiver depth, but defensive line depth, to 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:47.359 me is what's really standing out right now. And know 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.440 what you allude to. Jerry was asked about Bryce Butler. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.600 He's in town. According to Jerry, he is in doubt. 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:57.400 Was as forthcoming as he was about Bryce Butler. Yeah, 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.840 he didn't really say, Okay, we got him signed. They 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:02.679 probably have to figure out if they are going to 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:06.760 sign him, who who they're gonna let goes? And that's 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:10.000 what I told those guys. Yeah, especially if Xavier Woods, 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.600 Savior Woods comes back, then you're gonna back. Have to 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:16.040 figure it out, yea, yeah, yeah. Carry seven Well you 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.079 can say it's seven wide receivers. It's six wide receivers 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:23.480 with one third receiver one third running. We're playing that 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.640 game now. Yeah, that's how we went from having him 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.400 as a receiver to having him as a split player. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.760 Now that's a third, a third and a third. I 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.040 just had a flashback to like August thirtieth where brought 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.760 us just I don't want seven receivers. Still don't you 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:43.280 still don't I still don't. I don't quite understand. You know, 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.839 how do you why do you think Butler fits into 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:51.080 if indeed they sign. I like what Brian was saying yesterday, 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.000 it was pure speculation about it. Should there might be 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.080 an opening at the end. But who knows. Yeah, what 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.080 what's going to happen with with Williams? We don't know. 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.560 I mean, the league might come out and say because 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.800 of the things, the the the off the field problems 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.200 that he had that uh that maybe they say, okay, 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.120 we're gonna sit you for a game or two because 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.200 there's a preintive strike. But then again, I look at that, 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.320 and I asked Jason Garrett this question to walk off, 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.719 what's wrong with Lance Lenora? Then? You know, lance Lenora 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.440 went with your You know, we we as a group 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:27.839 had some really good discussions about why to keep seven 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:31.080 wide receivers, why not to keep seven wide receivers? Why 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.960 does Lance Lenora make this team? Why? You know, And 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.080 all of a sudden, you're taking a guy that you 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:41.720 had and was shown the door, you know, and who 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.839 said some really negative things about your team on the 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.800 way out the door, and now you're going to bring 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:51.400 him back in. Maybe, but then you get a guy 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.440 in the practice squad that we all kind of thought 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.880 had a chance to make this team. So from that 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.800 aspect of it, it's that's why I'm doing radio. I'm 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:01.960 not a personne guy. I mean, I'm trying to I'm 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.320 trying to sit here and figure out why you would 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.279 Why would you bring back Bryce Butler unless unless he's 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.560 going to play a position of somebody that you potentially 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.679 can lose, or maybe the fact is they're not really 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:19.240 excited about having Beasley and Austin both being smaller players 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.800 playing as much as they're happening. And that was the 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.919 other thing. What does Butler bring into the receiver corps 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.440 that they don't have right now? And he is a 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.240 taller wide receiver. I say something too about Josh Gordon 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.719 and that whole thing. Yes, Josh Gordon coming back to 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.520 Texas is probably not a really good idea. You know, 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.000 you think about where a lot of his problems came 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.200 from stem from. Coming back to the state of Texas 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:47.120 is probably not a great idea for him. If in fact, 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.000 you're looking for a guy that tends to have issues, 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:54.040 relapse problems, things like that, this environment for him is 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:57.320 probably to separate from people you might have been around. Yeah, exactly, 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.920 and and I'm sure that everybody out there is going 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:02.039 broadest year. You know, you're making too big of a 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.160 deal about No, I'm not. This is something you have 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:06.640 to think about when bringing a player. When you're bringing 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.960 a player in One of the reasons why people said, 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:10.960 excuse me, Robin, we're gonna make a great point. Good. 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.040 This is why they said don't draft Dez Brian because 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.440 of all the influence around and well, Dez proved to 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.599 be different, you know, and I don't think that Josh 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.280 Gordon can prove to be different with what is going 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.320 on with his day, and there were different issues with Dez. 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:29.240 I mean, Josh Gordon isn't essentially correct me if I'm wrong. 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.640 He's basically Randy Gregory right now, like he's one strike 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.360 away from God from Goodbye Forever. Dez had some attitude 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.200 stuff coming out of No. I just say, yeah, what 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:42.239 people said they shouldn't draft does Brant because the bad 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:46.480 influences Dez Bryant overcame more things. I got in trouble 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.479 one time on the radio for saying that Dez Bryant, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.560 and he got mad at me because I was trying 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.000 to compliment him on I've never seen a guy with 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:57.120 more more things happened to him in his life and 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.560 him overcome those, you know, I meant that as a 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.599 compliment it. I don't know if necessarily that Josh Gordon 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.240 could could survive being back in Texas. We're on the 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.040 same page there. And the other thing too, is because 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.160 he was an in state player, Cowboys did their homework 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:12.600 on him coming out of the draft, did a lot 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:14.440 of homework on him, and maybe they don't. They had 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.280 to gather information if they were looking into this last 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.240 couple days on what's happened to him since he's been 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.480 in the league. But they know, they know about him, 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.400 and I just trust that they had information that said, 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.680 you know what, when we're dealing with some stuff already 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.480 now where he's going, I wouldn't be surprised if he 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.000 stays on the field. He has a heck of the season. 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:37.720 When you hear the word time bomb tagged to a player, 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.200 there are certain things you can call players, certain words 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:42.840 you can use. Some of them are really bad by 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.160 the way that you can use. We'll talk about those 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.680 off the air. But you call a player, you say 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:51.679 he's a time bomb. Ticking time bomb, A ticking time bomb. Quote. 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.320 That's not good. It's not good. How many how many 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.240 guys do you want on your team that you've got 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:02.120 a nurse? You already got a nurse. Two guys, right, yeah, 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:06.040 and that we know of, And now you want to 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.920 bring in another guy. And you start relying on too 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.920 many guys that have those off field problems, you're going 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:17.480 to start failing and the cancer starts growing in your locks. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.200 Also in the middle of the season two, it's one 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.400 thing to bring in a guy that's you know, Gregory 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.840 gets comes back and has the camp in the preseason, 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.160 and he gets back into the program. We're talking like 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.280 on the fly, this guy bringing him in and he's 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:31.920 he had does have the baggage. I could see why 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.480 they said, you know what, let's just going in another direction. 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.640 And and and and look at Cleveland. Yeah, Cleveland was 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:41.600 so patient with him. They put up with how many 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:46.040 years has this been going on? Twenty twelve? He came 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.800 into Okay, and they've been so patient with him, and 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:53.120 and they finally go, that's it. I'm throwing my hands 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.320 up in the air. I've what had happened this weekend? 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:59.200 He tweaked his hamstring at a do emotional emotional thing. Well, 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:03.959 evidently say available play now you can play. Yeah, I 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:06.640 know he missed, he was late to a meeting. They 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:10.080 just didn't, you know. And you know, Mickey's right, and hey, listen, 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.439 trust me, and I don't blame Cleveland. If you listen, 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.040 if you listen to me on the draft show, I 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.720 take great pride in trying to give guys second chances. 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.320 Joe Mixon was a great example of what But Joe 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.920 Mixon I think Joe, you know, I'm always like, hey, 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.360 bring in the bringing that criminal guy bring you know, 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.120 everybody gives me a hard time about that. But this 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.080 is one where I look at it and I know 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:34.800 a lot of angles here and it's this one is 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:38.080 not worth it. This is just not worth it. So 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.160 why is it worth it to the Patriots? You think 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.960 it's worth it to the Patriots because the Patriots have 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:47.320 built up enough equity in that they're the smartest team 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.920 in the league. And there's smart so desperate at wide 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:56.640 receiver five transactions since July yea the wide receiver twenty 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:00.360 five transactions since July at the wide receiver position. So 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:05.200 Switzer wasn't the answer. No, he's not there, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh. Sorry, yeah, 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:10.120 but that's the thing. That's the thing. And I give 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.040 the Patriots credit, but if you build up enough equity 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.680 to where you're winning super Bowls and being playoffs, yeah, 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.800 you look, now they win a lot of those things 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:21.439 because of the head coach and because of the quarterback. 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.400 So you know, you can take chances like that. That's 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:26.720 a that's a it's a if you if you have that, 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:28.600 if you have that ability, if you have that lock. 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.720 There's people will argue here though that and and you 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.640 guys can beat me up on saying this if you want, 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.400 and I'll let you do it. But there are people 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.160 that said that that you do not want to put 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:43.200 this player. Why give Jason Garrett another headache? Why give 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.720 Jason Garrett another headache to have to deal with with 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.840 all that's going on with this with this season? You 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.280 know that that is you know, you talk about Belichick, 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:56.679 and you know Jason is an established coach, established in 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:00.280 years of tender but not in you know, maybe in 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.240 maybe right now you're looking at a situation where his 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.760 job's on the line. That and you're and you want 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:07.800 to throw and do you want to take you want 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:11.080 to throw something else into his put on his plate 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.920 that he has to deal with instead of focusing on 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.240 winning games. But people will say, well brought us If 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:20.480 you had Josh Gordon, you could probably win games. Or 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:22.160 is he going to be eligible this or he's going 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.800 to be eligible. I think that that's do you want 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:26.520 you want to put that on your head? Coach? You 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:29.120 got to show up this week, so I'll bring Dez back. 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.280 Dez was a problem myself myself, Mickey, I don't think 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:34.880 Dez was a pro. No, No No, I'm saying, you might 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:36.600 as well bring him back. If I'm going to take 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.120 a chance on If you're if you're gonna cut Dez 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:43.360 Bryant because of because of things you saw in the 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.680 locker room or or things, uh you know, things that 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.720 you will personality conflicts or whatever, then why in the 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.640 hell would you want to bring in Josh gor right? 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.760 That to me would make absolutely what I'd made. The 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.600 parallel with Randy Gregory, they feel like this that's different 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:01.320 with Randy. Players lobbied for him to get reinstated on 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.240 this football team. Like it's not an attitude thing with Randy, 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.600 it's it is a medical issue that is causing his 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.840 previous SUBSCT. Like what I've seen from receivers so far, 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.640 I don't know why they're bringing in Bryce Butler myself. 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.199 I don't I had the same for two weeks, or 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.960 for two weeks, for two weeks, I you know what, 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:23.240 you cannot understand bringing him in for a workout, seeing 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.880 making sure that he's whatever, so that you have him, 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:27.640 you know what's out there in case you have an 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.440 injury or something. But did he get a private workout? 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.200 He was not part of the they won the last 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.360 part of Camp Cowboys. Yeah, but see that was that 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.160 was their way of looking at their emergency board. This 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.120 is the only time they'll work players out, right, they 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:46.360 they've got the coaches, the fact that the fact that 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.760 the Seahawks played a money night game, they really couldn't 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.000 sit down and look at tape. They had to wait. 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.240 They had to wait for the sea so they had 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.720 really a spare day to look to. So what you 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:58.679 do if you're a personnel guy, you say, and it's 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:00.520 hard for the coaches to go out there and work 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.160 guys out because they do not want to take time 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.480 away from game planning. So this is the way you 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.199 set your emergency board. You get the coaches involved, and 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:09.959 they will not ask the coaches to do any more 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.240 workouts the rest of the way. This won't do it. 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:16.400 So that makes great sense. The whole organization was out there. 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:20.480 Yeah except us. Oh we were there. I was there 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.440 there you go, all right, stand up and watch. So 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:28.600 why would the Patriots? Why don't the Patriots take a 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:34.600 look at Dez Bryant age. Maybe maybe he's running. He's 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.000 older than a Josh Gordon. This is where this is 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:41.199 now where the film turns into because or do they 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.439 have an impression of Dez Bryant that he is trouble. 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:46.560 I don't think it's a trouble. I think with the 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.480 pecause they're not afraid to bring trouble in, but they're 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.200 always there. The Patriots are more interested in bringing in 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:55.120 players they think and play. Josh Gordon can play. The 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:58.320 problem is, like you said, will he be there? You know, 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.319 will he be at the meetings and stuff to be available? 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.360 This I feel like that that that they first see 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:09.160 Josh Gordon as being a different type player than Dez Bryant. Absolutely, yes, yes, 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:13.960 I think they're looking for somebody explosive, get down the field. 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:18.319 That's probably not it's this point, this is more incorporated 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.400 and immediately like this week, this is more about ability 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.640 than it is about personality. Is what I'm Josh Gordon's 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:28.080 twenty seven does is I think turning thirty and what 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:29.720 was the talk coming out of here that like, we 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.920 love Dez, but Dez had lost a step and was 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.080 in decline. I think that was generally the feeling in 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.240 terms of a guy who can go vertical, a guy 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:42.720 who's just dynamic, Josh Gordon could be. There's another factor 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:47.880 in there, and it's money. Quarterback. Quarterback yeah, money, money, Yeah. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.440 I think Gordon is basically a veteran's minimum. Yeah, he's 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.480 a seven hundred thousand dollars player, right, and that is 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.040 willing to play for See. This is this is where Okay, 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.680 now I'll give the Patriots credit for this. They give 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.840 a f but if Josh Gordon doesn't work out, they 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.120 get a seventh back. So what you're doing is you're 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.560 taking look at a guy if he works great, But 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.000 it always I thought the details were if he plays 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.360 ten games, I'm saying that's what I'm saying, They're gonna 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.120 get a free look at a guy and and if 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.480 if in six weeks he reverts back to Josh Gordon. 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.560 We've known for the last five years the Patriots will 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.280 get their fifth back. They will, Plus they hear that 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.440 part of it, Plus they get their seventh back. They're 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.800 going to get a seventh back from from Cleveland just 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.480 for the rental. That's why people were asking why didn't 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.640 the Cowboys get in on this, But again because they don't. 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.320 They don't have nothing to do with the trade value 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.680 locker room. I'm just I was gonna finish my own. Sorry, 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:43.480 it's more. It's more it's about intangibles and now a 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.800 lot on this show, don't Yeah, that's me and Nicky 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.520 gonna jump on a lot. Well there's like there's like 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:51.720 a three second timerund me until I get interrupted. But 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:57.840 I just I do apologize. And the other acquisition news yesterday, 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.000 of course, Dan Bailey was head into Minnesota for a 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:07.160 physical spot. That was so easy to predict once Daniel Carlson, 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.680 their fifth round draft pick this year. About that maybe 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.360 missed his third field goal in overtime in a twenty 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.840 nine twenty nine tie in Green Bay. Maybe not that 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:20.120 that difficult because somebody asked Mike Zimmer, was it a 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.080 hard decision to make? You know what? His answer was, 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:27.120 did you watch the game? That was? That was incredible? 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.640 Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this, Zim. 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.880 I love Mike, I really really do. But is that 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:37.200 the best way to handle that particular question. I mean, 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:41.280 I mean that, I'm just saying, though, is it? Is 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.160 it right though to hammer the kid like that? Carlson? 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.640 I appreciate his brother, mister field Gold in the LSU 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.800 game the other day too. Thank you very much for 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.200 doing that. Carlson family considering kids trying to get a 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.480 job somewhere else. Now, you know what, I think Mike 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.320 didn't think of that part of it. It was like, 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:01.560 why did you ask me that stupid question towards the media? Yeah? 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.679 I think he was trying. Yeah. I think it's one 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.280 of those things where you say, you know what, Yeah, 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.480 we used to draft pick on the kid. We obviously 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.919 thought a lot of him. It didn't work out, you know, 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:14.520 we hope that especially where the Vikings are. The Vikings 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.520 are planning to be in Atlanta. Yeah, and I picked 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.520 him to be in Atlanta. And and so you can't 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.399 even if you spent a fifth round pick on a kicker. 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.919 I mean, you might be able to even resign your 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.080 practice squad if you'll if he's you know, maybe he's 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.679 later today, Maybe he's just playing pissed off that they 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:32.360 blew a chance to win a game at Green Bike, 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.640 and it's well, he has no one to blame but himself. 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.360 He's the guy who drafted the kicker. Parah if that's 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.360 if you know, if you want to be all crappy, 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:43.080 maybe he didn't know he was. Rick Spielman, trust Rick 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.119 and him. I trust me sitting next to him as 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.040 a senior Bowl, he's telling Rick everything he wants. Yeah, 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:49.520 that's a guy. That's a guy, and a guy that's 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.959 you know. But Rick's done a nice job of love 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.800 Rick Spielman, Right, He's done a fine job. But you know, 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:56.639 I think that you know, hey, you know, look at 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.200 yourself when you're you know, maybe you should be disappointed 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.080 in your you for picking the kid. You know, did 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.119 you watch the game? Yeah? Did you watch the draft? 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:09.760 You picked him back? That's what I would have said, 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:13.040 you know, I would have what right did you watch 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.239 the yeld have did great? Yeah? If Zimmer answers that 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.440 reporter and say, did you watch the game? Did the 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:24.800 reporter came back with, did you watch the draft? Yeah? 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.000 Mike would have loved that one. No, but you know 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.359 what it's do you like your job? Yeah? And and 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.320 actuality though that you know you have to when you 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.960 standing up there and talking about things, you have to 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.560 be a little mindful of that. You know, you're you're 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.800 the one that picked the kid. You are, I mean, 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.800 you're acting all crummy about it, Mike. I love Mike, 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:45.680 I really do. And I would say it to his face. 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.000 I go, you're the one that drafted him. I would 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.160 it saved to his face. What if Garrett had said 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.760 that about Bailey after camp? Did you watch training camp? 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.920 Was it a tough decision? Now, it's pretty easy, Bret 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.080 matter was a lot better. That would have been. That 0:18:58.119 --> 0:18:59.959 would have made huge Just see, that's the thing about it. 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.240 He couldn't say that because by Bailey was Bailey was 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:09.760 not bad. That's not Jason's personality. If Bailey's yanking kicks right, 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.080 and let you know, yanking him, yank, you know, missing 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:16.520 him and he's you know, it's like damn, Dan's he's done, 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.760 He's done, you know. But you're the one that drafted 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:21.880 that kid. It's a great spot for Dan. I think 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.439 it's a great spot. It's a good team, Psycho coach. 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.480 They got a chance to go to the the super Bowl 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.160 this year. I think they're kicking indoors. Although he's gonna 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.280 have to kick in some cold weather places probably, but 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:38.320 he's passing true. 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