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Speaker 1: brought us so jonesy Tuesday. Have you back? Happy to

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Speaker 1: There you go, some plumbing issues part of the problem yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Not personal, but that's kitchen to say. Oh and here

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Speaker 1: I guess I didn't have to tell Kent to like

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Speaker 1: Kent Garrison taking your phone calls. Give us a call

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Speaker 1: eight eight five five to two nine seven. How are

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Speaker 1: the guys on the fan this morning? Well, Jerry had

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Speaker 1: to go late, I heard Jerry, yes, so uh it

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Speaker 1: see so you didn't get as much time because of Jerry. No,

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Speaker 1: Well good, and you listen to Jerry I did, okay,

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Speaker 1: and he breaking news from Jerry this morning here in

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Speaker 1: the last half hour. Not no, no, he kind of

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Speaker 1: reiterated what we heard from Jason yesterday. I think they

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Speaker 1: feel optimistic about Gregory and maybe Xavier Woods getting back

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Speaker 1: for week three and and Jason also with I'll just

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Speaker 1: go ahead and update the injuries and think Mallee Collins

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Speaker 1: He did sprain his knee in the game. So they've

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Speaker 1: got some injuries, and particularly some injuries on that defensive

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Speaker 1: line up front. But again, Dayton Jones has a chance

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Speaker 1: might get some pieces back, but they're pretty We're talking

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Speaker 1: about sign and receiver depth, but defensive line depth, to

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Speaker 1: me is what's really standing out right now. And know

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Speaker 1: what you allude to. Jerry was asked about Bryce Butler.

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Speaker 1: He's in town. According to Jerry, he is in doubt.

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Speaker 1: Was as forthcoming as he was about Bryce Butler. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he didn't really say, Okay, we got him signed. They

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Speaker 1: what I told those guys. Yeah, especially if Xavier Woods,

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Speaker 1: Savior Woods comes back, then you're gonna back. Have to

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Speaker 1: figure it out, yea, yeah, yeah. Carry seven Well you

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Speaker 1: can say it's seven wide receivers. It's six wide receivers

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Speaker 1: with one third receiver one third running. We're playing that

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Speaker 1: game now. Yeah, that's how we went from having him

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Speaker 1: Now that's a third, a third and a third. I

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Speaker 1: just had a flashback to like August thirtieth where brought

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Speaker 1: us just I don't want seven receivers. Still don't you

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Speaker 1: still don't I still don't. I don't quite understand. You know,

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Speaker 1: how do you why do you think Butler fits into

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Speaker 1: if indeed they sign. I like what Brian was saying yesterday,

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Speaker 1: an opening at the end. But who knows. Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen with with Williams? We don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the league might come out and say because

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Speaker 1: of the things, the the the off the field problems

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Speaker 1: does Lance Lenora make this team? Why? You know, And

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Speaker 1: other thing. What does Butler bring into the receiver corps

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Speaker 1: that they don't have right now? And he is a

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Speaker 1: taller wide receiver. I say something too about Josh Gordon

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Speaker 1: probably to separate from people you might have been around. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: broadest year. You know, you're making too big of a

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Speaker 1: a player in One of the reasons why people said,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, Robin, we're gonna make a great point. Good.

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Speaker 1: This is why they said don't draft Dez Brian because

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Speaker 1: of all the influence around and well, Dez proved to

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Speaker 1: on with his day, and there were different issues with Dez.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Josh Gordon isn't essentially correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: He's basically Randy Gregory right now, like he's one strike

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Speaker 1: away from God from Goodbye Forever. Dez had some attitude

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Speaker 1: When you hear the word time bomb tagged to a player,

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Speaker 1: he's a time bomb. Ticking time bomb, A ticking time bomb. Quote.

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Speaker 1: That's not good. It's not good. How many how many

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Speaker 1: Also in the middle of the season two, it's one

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Speaker 1: He tweaked his hamstring at a do emotional emotional thing. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you have that ability, if you have that lock.

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Speaker 1: and I'll let you do it. But there are people

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Speaker 1: and you know Jason is an established coach, established in

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Speaker 1: winning games. But people will say, well brought us If

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Speaker 1: what it's it's almost like you're you're shaving, like you

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Speaker 1: know when you use a squeegee on the window. There's

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Speaker 1: no pull. It just kind of slides. There is no

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Speaker 1: pull whatsoever from your razor. I love my Jack Black

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Speaker 1: shaving cream that I ran out of last week. We

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Speaker 1: got to help you out with that. We've got, I've got.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting ready to turn in my my reorder. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: look at this, I got you down, Rob Phillips. Rob

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Speaker 1: Phillips left or in the break, but now he's back,

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Speaker 1: and it's almost as if it's Santa Claus is arriving.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the next break we'll talk about we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: the get special delivery. That's pretty quick. Consider this segment

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve. Okay, wait till Christmas morning after the last break.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. I can't wait. All right? Did you

443
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: watch Monday Night Football last night? And the Cowboys this time?

444
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: First time I did? This season, this season I did.

445
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Speaker 1: I was just interested to see what the h what

446
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: Seattle was going to roll out there? And uh, you know,

447
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: it looks like they I've got the tape upstairs. Now.

448
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: It's good to watch, but it looks like they've got

449
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Speaker 1: some issues clearly on the offensive line, and you know

450
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: they were missing some key people defensively, so really the

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Speaker 1: shell of a team that probably they wanted to roll

452
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Speaker 1: out there, but you know a team that nevertheless, you're

453
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Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with some some still some some

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Speaker 1: key players on that team that can make life a

455
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Speaker 1: little difficult for you. Do you think DeMarcus Lawrence and

456
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Speaker 1: others on the the hot boys were licking their chops

457
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Speaker 1: last night? We have to use that. Not like that, Mick.

458
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: You don't like old school rapt boy. You know what,

459
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of similarities to what the Giants

460
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: went through here a couple of nights, you and I,

461
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna use hot boys just to get under Mickey's

462
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Speaker 1: how we spelling boys? Oh, it's gonna have a z

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Speaker 1: with it. Jason wouldn't had a couple of phrases the

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Speaker 1: other night, Yes he did. I was just looking them up.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to remember them. Storm the castle. Yeah,

466
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Speaker 1: that's right, storm the castle. And she's in reference to

467
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: just swarming Russell Wilson right, way too many rushers that

468
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Speaker 1: they can handle the ball. Term and there was another

469
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Speaker 1: one about elephants, I believe, but an Elephants on Parade

470
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Speaker 1: used for the same sentence basically storming the castle and

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Speaker 1: Elephants on Parade, which was everybody goes left and the

472
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Speaker 1: play went right right the Elephants on Parade, Yes, the

473
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Speaker 1: big uglies up front, Yeah, all went left. Russell Wilson

474
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Speaker 1: had some protection issues last night, so I think, yeah,

475
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Speaker 1: that's something that we'll see now. The difference is Eliza

476
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Speaker 1: sitting duck. Let's be honest, yes, and Russell Wilson is

477
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Speaker 1: as good as any body in the league at avoiding

478
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Speaker 1: scrambling and just buy an extra time. I'm interested to

479
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Speaker 1: see go back and watch the Denver game that they

480
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Speaker 1: played in Week one. That's where I want to see

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Speaker 1: where if in fact, because we didn't really hear about

482
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Speaker 1: with von Miller in that group, I think I'm right

483
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Speaker 1: about that. How much pressure were If you said who

484
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Speaker 1: would be the better pass rushers in the league, I

485
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: think that maybe Denver's pass rush would be more more

486
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Speaker 1: ferocious than what the Bears. I know the Bears have

487
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Speaker 1: done a nice job with Cleil Mack. Yeah, but I'm

488
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Speaker 1: interested to see. Okay, how did they protect against the

489
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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos in Week one or did they have those

490
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Speaker 1: issues carry over into this. Sacks both games, six sacks

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Speaker 1: both games. Okay, he through for two hundred and ninety

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Speaker 1: eight yards and three touchdowns against Denver. Right, So, as

493
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Speaker 1: badly as the protection was that, they did do something

494
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Speaker 1: and they did score twenty four points. But last night

495
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Speaker 1: that looked like Russell Wilson and the other twenty one

496
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Speaker 1: and by the way, he just seemed to be out

497
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Speaker 1: there operating there you go. Yeah right, Nick, Yeah, if

498
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Speaker 1: it's six and six, I'm having to make plays. Although

499
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Speaker 1: the tight end looked like he may have a little

500
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Speaker 1: something will justly yeah from the draft show. Yeah, yeah,

501
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Speaker 1: I think that with Seattle, you're always going to have

502
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Speaker 1: to deal with Russell Wilson. That's gonna be the plan.

503
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Speaker 1: And you're gonna hear me to talk about this this

504
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Speaker 1: bunch this week. You know, with the protection clearly an issue,

505
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Speaker 1: but the second chance plays with him in the pocket,

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Speaker 1: his ability to move, the ability to scramble. I've always

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Speaker 1: believed this about Russell Wilson. You have to make him

508
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Speaker 1: play backwards. You can't let him play going forward. And

509
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Speaker 1: what I mean going forward is and we saw what

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Speaker 1: happened in the pocket him he's scrambling at late in

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Speaker 1: the game he gets hit, the ball's not but that's

512
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Speaker 1: him going forward. He's trying to make plays. When Russell

513
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Speaker 1: Wilson has his problems is when he's going straight back.

514
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Speaker 1: He's not a pocket passer. And when he can set

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Speaker 1: his feet and throw, he could be a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: But if you make him have to play off the

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Speaker 1: back of his back foot and go backwards, he doesn't

518
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Speaker 1: get enough on the football. It tends to make some mistakes.

519
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Speaker 1: But uh, he's going to take a beating in these games.

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Speaker 1: And you know, and and shame on John Snyder for

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Speaker 1: for not trying to help him. I mean, they've got

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Speaker 1: some They've got some guys. I mean he's he tried

523
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Speaker 1: to make a trade for Duwayne Brown from the from

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Speaker 1: the the Texans, you know, and and that that has

525
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Speaker 1: really worked out for him. He drafted Ethan Postic from LSU,

526
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Speaker 1: who's really more of a center than he is a guard.

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Speaker 1: He drafted him in the second round. Uh, Justin Britt

528
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Speaker 1: has played for him for since twenty fourteen. He was

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Speaker 1: a second round pick. DJ Fluker, you know, came from

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Speaker 1: the Giants. He was at San Diego initially and then

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Speaker 1: the Giants, and then you know it was kind of

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Speaker 1: really come a just a big, heavy footed guy. But

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Speaker 1: he always had man I always thought that he would yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he wasn't. He wasn't the right tackle. Now you're

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Speaker 1: playing him at guard and he's not very quick. And

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Speaker 1: then ia Fetti. Ia Fetti was a first round pick

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Speaker 1: and on backed up in the draft when he could

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Speaker 1: have taken John could have drafted a Ram Chick, the

539
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Speaker 1: fine tackle that's playing for the Saints. So that's on

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Speaker 1: that's on Snyder for his offensive line problems. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not from a lack of trying. He's just done

542
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Speaker 1: a bad job of evaluating his line and their ability

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Speaker 1: to play. And it's it's it's gonna cost Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing to me he gets up after every play

545
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: because he takes some some wicked shots. You know, I

546
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Speaker 1: Fetti or however you say it's Texas A and n him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's Fetti. Yes, So he so he fooled John. How

548
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Speaker 1: about his first three weeks of this season. He got

549
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Speaker 1: Von Miller the first week, Khalil Back the second, and

550
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: now he gets to Marcus Lawrence this week. You know

551
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: when Brian talks about Wilson going forward too. It's not

552
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Speaker 1: forward around the edges. It's right up the middle, right

553
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: up the middle. Yeah, So the Cowboys have to be

554
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: very careful if they want to be aggressive run of

555
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: Russian the quarterback, you better stay in your lanes and

556
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: again have some contentment, because that's what I saw last

557
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: night when he was running. It was right off the gap.

558
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: Discipline rushes and what Rod always says is to keep

559
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Speaker 1: him in the well and keep him in the well.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Rods, they've done a decent job against

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Speaker 1: him in recent years. Last last year, I don't he

562
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: made some clutch throws last year on Christmas Eve, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think he hadn't he may have had like

564
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Speaker 1: one hundred yards thirteen twelve games. Was one of those

565
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Speaker 1: deals game, you know. L Yeah, see that's I kind

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Speaker 1: of felt like the game. I mean, Trubisky was making

567
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Speaker 1: some plays, but they still until the pick six, and

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Speaker 1: you know, it's amazing that they can give up six

569
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Speaker 1: sacks and hanging football games. It's the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: So you know, this one, this one could very well

571
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Speaker 1: be on the Cowboys offense. You know, can and you

572
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: know can you have the type of game plan where

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Speaker 1: you can run the football. We have some success throwing

574
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Speaker 1: and yeah, and it sounds like Bobby Wagner will be back,

575
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: so you know you better be ready for You know,

576
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: this team has done not a very good job of

577
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Speaker 1: blocking that Mic linebacker the last couple of weeks. Like Mike,

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Speaker 1: linebackers have been able to make tackles. I know, Luke

579
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: Keekley's a rare player, but you look at Ogletree and

580
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Speaker 1: what he was able to do. He had several tackles

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Speaker 1: in this game. And you know, if you don't block

582
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Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, then you're not going to run the football

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Speaker 1: twenty one twelve. They lost to him last year, and

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Speaker 1: this surprised me. I should have known it when I

585
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: was looking at the scores from last year. It was

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Speaker 1: the only game the Cowboys lost when they didn't give

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Speaker 1: up at least twenty seven points. Yeah. All the other

588
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: losses were twenty seven points or more. So they were

589
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Speaker 1: staggedant offensively. In the first game Z even those was back,

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Speaker 1: they still was a continuation pass protection. He was kind

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Speaker 1: of back, I guess, yeah, first game back. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you you thought Witton made improvement this week I described

593
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Speaker 1: those he had some witnesssms last Yeah he did, and

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Speaker 1: that's good. That brings out his personality. I thought I

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Speaker 1: only watched maybe like the part of the first half,

596
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Speaker 1: but when he's drawn up stuff and all along and

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00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: watching him in the preseason, I say, well, let's wait

598
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Speaker 1: till the regular season because those endgame situations and talking football,

599
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: that's what will be his strength. Most comfortable doing that. Yeah,

600
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: circling out things and what he's seeing on a previous play,

601
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: that's where he shines. And what I could hear. I

602
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: mean it was basically the fourth quarter by time I

603
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: got home, but he seemed more relaxed. He seemed more

604
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: like it wasn't scripted or trite. And I thought the

605
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: three of them mixed a lot better than kind of

606
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: stumbling all over each other. Well, it's hard when they're

607
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: not all in the booth together. Can't put the face,

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00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 1: give me some face, camera, please, here we go. You

609
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Speaker 1: didn't think so, though. I think that Witton did fine.

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Speaker 1: I don't like Booker McFarland on the field. I don't

611
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: like that. I don't like that dynamic there. Yeah, I think, well,

612
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: I think book McFarland brings some things. I think that

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Speaker 1: you know his clearly his training in the SEC network

614
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: has helped him. But I don't like the I feel

615
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: like it's a disjointed broadcast. And you know I would,

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Speaker 1: I would not, And I love following. He's an LSU guy.

617
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta love LSU guys. But I just

618
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Speaker 1: would like for them to ride Jason Witton as the

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Speaker 1: analyst here, right, I really would. I would like to

620
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Speaker 1: hear him have more opinions about what's going on with

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Speaker 1: the game. I think happens with the open mic is

622
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: the the guy on the field doesn't know what That's

623
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Speaker 1: what you're saying. You said that last week. I'm just

624
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: saying that to me. Take take that element out, take

625
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: the other analysts out, and just and focus in on Witton.

626
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: Let him be the guy that shines for you. But

627
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: testa tour can set him up, but make sure you

628
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Speaker 1: do that. See that's the other thing that Romo has

629
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Speaker 1: going for him is with Jim can set you up

630
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: all day, So you can set him up all day.

631
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Speaker 1: And nance he's got you know, two decades if not

632
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Speaker 1: three decades in the network boot He's not trying to

633
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: prove himself, you know, And so, and credit Jim Nance

634
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Speaker 1: for even changing the way he calls a game in

635
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Speaker 1: order for a Romo to shine, right. And and I

636
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Speaker 1: know Joe Tessa tour from when he in turned for

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Speaker 1: to Brandon in Ohio. You're up on talking Cowboys. Hello Brandon, Hello,

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Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. Guys. Sure, um so, if

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Speaker 1: the Seattle game coming up, I've heard you guys talk

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Speaker 1: trade for Earl Thomas. I don't think say that, but

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Speaker 1: go ahead. I think I've heard Brian Ferry probably wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be untill after a week, it wouldn't It clearly wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be after the game. Yeah, exactly. Um So I was thinking,

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Speaker 1: in the interest of thinking outside the box a little bit,

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Speaker 1: what would you guys think about the potential to move

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Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis to safety trade for Earl Thomas and trade

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Speaker 1: the way Xavier Woods and a late really late round

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Speaker 1: third being your safety of right now and rooming Jordan

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Speaker 1: Lewis to be your safety of its cher since he's

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Speaker 1: not a good scheme fit for a corner, but he

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Speaker 1: looks like he could be a great transition to safety.

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Speaker 1: Um So that's my question. I'll hang up unless you

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Speaker 1: guys talk about it. It's a safety he built like

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Speaker 1: The third like Earl's a bigger, bigger body. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he is a bigger don't know that I want a

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Speaker 1: five nine safety. No, he's five ten, five ten, I

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Speaker 1: think that's yeah, he's built different, though, you know, I

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Speaker 1: Bob Sanders, Ye, Bob Sanders will blow you up. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you know when you talk about those

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Speaker 1: safeties like that, Um, Paulo Malo's the Earl Thomas's the

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Speaker 1: Eric Berry's great instinctual players. I don't know if necessarily

681
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Speaker 1: if if Jordan Lewis is a great instinctual player, and

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Speaker 1: I think that to me. If, by the way, if

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Speaker 1: I'm making the Seattle trade, they're not getting my two,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry you had a chance, you're not getting it now.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, I was Here's what I was thinking

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Speaker 1: in regards to if it ever became a possibility. When

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Speaker 1: you see the Seahawks now fall to O and two,

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Speaker 1: they have no lever to say they lose this week

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Speaker 1: to the Cowboys. They're now oh and three. That third

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Speaker 1: round pick looks pretty good now. Yeah. See, this is

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Speaker 1: where I'm saying. My thing is, do you want my

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Speaker 1: third round pick now? Or do you want to wait

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Speaker 1: till two and twenty and get that third round pick?

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Speaker 1: When Earl Thomas signed somewhere else. That's the that's the

695
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Speaker 1: that's what John Snyder has to come to grips with now.

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Speaker 1: And in the compensatory Yeah, you had an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: take my two. You didn't take my two, So I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: it's not I'm not going to offer my two to

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Speaker 1: you again. With that being said, I don't I feel

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Speaker 1: like though you need to keep Jordan Lewis at corner.

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Speaker 1: Mickey's made a point before and Bill maybe Rob as

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Speaker 1: well about injuries and things that happened as the season

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Speaker 1: goes on, keep him in that spot. Let him just

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Speaker 1: to keep practice, seeing as that corner that they're not

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Speaker 1: using him. Anthony Brown played has played really actually pretty

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Speaker 1: well the last couple of weeks. So George's your fourth corner,

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Speaker 1: keeping Xavier Woods. You know he's going to be back

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Speaker 1: in the mix. You know you're comfortable with him. But

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Speaker 1: the longer this thing goes I don't think you necessarily

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Speaker 1: going to trade for Earl Thomas, you know, not if

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Speaker 1: not a Frasier and and Heath and those guys continue

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Speaker 1: to play pretty well. And if you get if now,

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Speaker 1: if Frasier becomes a backup guy and you know, he

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Speaker 1: you can put him in some situations. I'm I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I'm gonna trade for something. I'm looking for

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Speaker 1: offensive help. Defense is your strength right now, I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried. I'm not worried about a safety. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm looking. Okay, And this is this goes back to

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Speaker 1: What about is there some is there somebody? Is there

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Speaker 1: of thinking about looking at a tight end than i

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Speaker 1: am anything else. I'm sorry, by the way, talking Earl

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729
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Speaker 1: dimensions from when they came into the league at the

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Speaker 1: scouting combine five ten and even five ten for Jordan

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Speaker 1: Lewis one eighty eight. He's one ninety five now, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: but he came in at one eighty eight, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: Earl Thomas came in at five ten oh two two

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Speaker 1: o eight twenty pounds. He's just thicker player. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: one eighty eight or one more instincts, I would say, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's really good safeties. You watch him play.

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Speaker 1: That's why Jeff Heath can you know, Jeff Heath is

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Speaker 1: Positions Byron Jones had different Byron. Yeah, Byron Jones wasn't

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Speaker 1: maybe that's the best way to get He is going

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Speaker 1: you know about the Star in Frisco and Flee Style

847
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Speaker 1: or teaming up for market at the Star, an outdoor

848
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Speaker 1: market with over thirty booths with handmade, vintage and one

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Speaker 1: of a kind lifestyle goods on Saturday, September twenty second,

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Speaker 1: which would be this coming Saturday. Admission and parking free.

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Speaker 1: For details, visit the Star in Frisco dot com. Flee

852
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Speaker 1: Style and a Star in Frisco like a flea market

853
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: kind of thing sounds that way, La, it's a an

854
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: outdoor market. There you go, curated outdoor market booths. Whoa all,

855
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: I've made vintage in one of a kind lifestyle goods.

856
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: And when does it start? I guess it's all days Saturday,

857
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: this Saturday, this Saturday, September twenty second, it's me. I'm

858
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: gonna come see it. I'm gonna come hang out. So

859
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: Brian brought us making an appearance speaking in that. Can

860
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: I make a I'm sorry, Mikey can make a promotion?

861
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: Kind we're doing this. I'm gonna hurry up. Can I

862
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 1: promise you? We got a happy hour tonight the Concrete Cowboy.

863
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: So come on by. Are you involved this week? Mick?

864
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: I think you are? Think guy. Yeah, So come see Mickey.

865
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: Come harass Mickey at Concrete Cowboy. Uh. He will be

866
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: happy to take pictures with you, answer all your questions

867
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: and no autographs though. Yeah. Good food, really good food,

868
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: good entertainment questions. Everybody come out and hang out with us,

869
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: guys on I'm on with you today. On I'm on Okay,

870
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: I'm on with you today, so we'll have some fun. So,

871
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: who all's involved on the show today? I think it's

872
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: a rotating yea rotating group. Kelman's on it. It's yeah,

873
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: me Helmet and maybe Taylor's on the Tailor's hosting today. Yeah, okay,

874
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: so we'll do we'll have fun. It's just come out

875
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: Concrete Cowboy who start six to seven, and we'll also

876
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: have it on the apps and all our platforms. If

877
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: you were out of town, I want to listen to it. Yeah,

878
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: it's a good show because we go through a lot

879
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: of different things. Are you goody great? Tuesday? Tuesday is

880
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: a good day. There's a lot of different things around

881
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: the league in fact, and one thing around the league

882
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: and penalties around the league. Yes, did y'all see the

883
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: Vikings Packers game? I did, Yes, Okay, the Clay Matthews

884
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: yes on Cousins. Yes. How could they defend the unbelievable?

885
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: The league did defend it, though what I say, They said,

886
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: that's the way it should be officiated. Yeah, how is

887
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: that a penalty? I don't know. And and and you guys,

888
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: I'm glad everybody's catching up to the life that I

889
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: had to leave for lead for thirteen years of dealing

890
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: with NFL officials, and that the fact that calls are

891
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: made and they get on a plane and fly first

892
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: class and wreck somebody else's life. You know, I mean,

893
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: I mean that game is I don't know. I know.

894
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you. I'm telling I don't. I do

895
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: not understand officiating anymore. I really don't. I don't. I don't.

896
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: There's things that happen in games now that I and

897
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: now back in the day, and I don't mean to

898
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: be that guy all the time, but there were there

899
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: are calls that are made today that I just I cringe.

900
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: So are they are they saying that he drove? He drove?

901
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: They basically tackled, He tackled, did and he did not

902
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: drive him into the ground. Now, I think that they

903
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: were probably so on point for that because teams that

904
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: Tony and anything in Rogers the previous year, and they

905
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: were they were priority that we gotta be on the

906
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: lookout for the Packers getting payback there. There are there

907
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: are referees in this league that do that overly protect quarterbacks,

908
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: and Tony Currente is one of them. He will, he will,

909
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: He is a You gotta understand where this is the game.

910
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: I know you and this is gonna understand. This makes

911
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: a difference in who wins the game and he didn't

912
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: telling me he didn't go low. Yeah, he just didn't

913
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: straight ahead. He didn't pick him up. It just tackled him.

914
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 1: It's you know, and that's where you know, Jason Garrett

915
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: will not. I mean, he stood up the podium yesterday

916
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: and there were a couple of the holding calls and

917
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: I get it, you know, but sometimes you just gotta

918
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: let these guys play and these officials. It's not always

919
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: the case. You just you know it. Don't put yourself

920
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: in a game where it's division rivals and both teams

921
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 1: and they're fighting, you know, don't you make the call

922
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: that's gonna flip the game one way to it. Just

923
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: let the players decide the game. And especially if Carlson

924
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 1: makes a field goal at the end of the game

925
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: and it took a turned a law a win into

926
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: a loss, and as it was, they turned to win

927
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: into a tipe, right, you know. And the other thing

928
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: that's happening now is for offensive lineman, don't dare bury

929
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: the guy because you're gonna get called for holding. You know,

930
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: it's not it's not my fault that you can't stand

931
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: up on your own two feet when I block you.

932
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: And then you take a die so little soccer move

933
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: be soccer, you're gonna getting Hell, we're gonna see soccer. No,

934
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: you got pancaked. Yeah, well you did the layout Collins one.

935
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: He punished that. You literally could call holding on every

936
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: single play in every game, every week. And so when

937
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: it happened, when it happens out in the open, that

938
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: that's that's the worst part, right yep. And that's the

939
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: same thing happened to Swain too. By the way it

940
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: was out in the open, I could see his His

941
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: was a little bit more of like bulldog move. I

942
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: can see why they called that though the Sway move

943
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: was turned around. They see him and he's got him

944
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: at Nelson. Yeah, I mean on film that one, that

945
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: one was worse than the Layo Collins one. But you

946
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: probably didn't have to get to the law Collins one.

947
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: If you weren't gonna have to throw. If you get

948
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: that first down, you're probably gonna just keep running the ball.

949
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: But the officials those were two first down plays, right, yeah,

950
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: both of them, both of them. Yeah, the run was

951
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: a first down and then the third and eleven was

952
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: which it was a really nice pass play too, from

953
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: the pocket. Absolutely okay. Now the other thing from Sunday

954
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: Sunday night, you were at the game, yes, okay, so

955
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: you were watching the game and not necessarily watching a

956
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: TV monitor. Yeah, you probably watch it for replace I

957
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: had it was at the game, Bran, and so you

958
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: are watching on TV. I'm just going to repeat some

959
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: tweets from me on Sunday night, which Rob knows where

960
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: this is going. I first tweeted, if we wanted to

961
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: see the end zone view, we'd buy a seat in

962
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: the end zone. What's going on here? And then I

963
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: said I retweeted that and said, what happened? Did NBC

964
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: lose its cameras and have to use the end zone view?

965
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: And then I said, I have no idea what happened

966
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: on that Cowboys series because I was sitting in the

967
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: end zone. And then Rob retweets me and says, well,

968
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: he says, Bill is so upset he's retweeting himself, folks.

969
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: I said, I rate spending this whole commercial break going

970
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: back and trying to figure out what just happened yourself?

971
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 1: Why did they show the end zone view on the live?

972
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: I love the end zone to go back and look

973
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: at the play. It's for replay purposes, but I have

974
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: to see how much yardage is being gained on the play.

975
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: So that's why we'd buy a fifty yard line seat

976
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: and not an end zone seat to deal with the

977
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: green zone. Two. Have you seen that? Harrison chimes in?

978
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: That's a whole other one too. Why are we tricking

979
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: this up? So did they keep it for the whole

980
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 1: play the whole series? And apparently this is something there's

981
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: almost like playing Madden. They're new computer. I guess I

982
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: missed that. It was well, it was second quarter. Somebody

983
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: tweeting me and said, it looks like it's kind of

984
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: that All twenty two y'all were talking about during the week,

985
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: but maybe it's not as really good a great I

986
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: love All twenty two, but I don't want to see

987
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: the All twenty two live because I want to see

988
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: what happened on the play first, and then yeah, those

989
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: are those innovations are for replay and that way you

990
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: can go see what happened. It was very It was

991
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: very video game like. If you and I have a

992
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: fourteen year old, fifteen year old son that watched his

993
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: play as Madden, and so I understand when you when

994
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: you watch him on TV on the big screen. That's

995
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: the view he gets to the game. The ball goes

996
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: to the sidelines. You really can't tell if he caught

997
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: it or not. You know, So, was it a low

998
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: twenty two? Oh, it's a high? Was it up high?

999
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: He could see everybody? Yeah? Yeah, But what you can't

1000
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: tell it wasn't second deck high, it was lower bowl high.

1001
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: If it was second deck high, you could see everything.

1002
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: And then you could see the yard lins exactly to

1003
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: see how many yards they put you. They basically gave

1004
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: you a view from the field suites. So what I

1005
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: saw a lot was they they started behind the play

1006
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: and then they switched camera, and I don't know why

1007
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: we're doing that, and so I started yelling at my TV,

1008
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: why are we doing this? It did finally that gave

1009
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: me the side view. Good. I feel better, not the

1010
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: only one that yell. I think. The thing they're trying

1011
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: to do is everybody's real big now and telling you

1012
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: what personnel's on the field. That's what yeah, I mean,

1013
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: they're trying to tell you that. If I can tell

1014
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: what personnel's on the field from the side too, if

1015
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: you're if you're in twelve personnel or eleven personnel and

1016
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: all that. But they're trying to get everybody. These broadcasts

1017
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: are really big now on the next gen stats and

1018
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: things like that. That's you know, Pro Football focus. They

1019
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: didn't do enough of that on the season opener. That's

1020
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: all I can say. When I had to watch on TV,

1021
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell the personnel just trying to trick it up, man,

1022
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: just trying to you know, maybe you're trying to peel

1023
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: a younger crowd. Like you said, maybe Bennett would like

1024
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: that better at that Lets in a replay then, But

1025
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: there's no question I think that's exactly who Rob's right.

1026
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to. I think they're trying to

1027
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: draw a younger group of audience. I think there's a

1028
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: lot of sports are worrying about the younger audience, unless

1029
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: it's the X game stuff, unless it's skateboarding or half

1030
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: pipe or you know, you're you're not you're not gonna

1031
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: have Yeah, you're right, absolutely right, You're not gonna have

1032
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, do they do the end

1033
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: zone view of the skateboarding they have that, Well, well,

1034
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: they showed, they showed the pipe. You know, they show

1035
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: the guys in the gals doing all that love that stuff.

1036
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: But they wait. There'll be a camera on the top

1037
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: before they jump off and you'll see them from behind. Yeah.

1038
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: I think I think I think television, Bill, you're in

1039
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: the industry. I think television is worried about the demographics

1040
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: they definitely are. Yeah, thats be what he thinks. Maybe

1041
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: maybe he maybe he would enjoy that more, bite would

1042
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: watch the game regardless. The problem will be they don't

1043
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: have enough kids like my son, who's a psycho football guy.

1044
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: That's true. You know, Bennett loves football. There's a lot

1045
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: of kids that don't love football. You know. That's and

1046
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: and why they play lacrosse and nothing wrong with that,

1047
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: or they're playing FIFA soccer on video games watching. Just

1048
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: warn them because in ten years or fifteen years, they'll

1049
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: kick them to the curb and they'll come up with

1050
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: something new for the other fifteen year olds. All Right,

1051
00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: We have buried the lead for this segment. Rob Phillips

1052
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: as no Rob Phillips ufore breaking news from Bryce Butler.

1053
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: He has spoken. We got a tweet from DJ duffel

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Speaker 1: Bag he hashtagged at Duffington Post. Wow I never thought

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Speaker 1: this would go down, but God's will always wins. Dallas,

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Speaker 1: y'all ready to make this thing happen. I'm back to

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Speaker 1: exclamation points. Now it's not official. Obviously, they got to

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Speaker 1: make a move to make it happen. But he did

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Speaker 1: he say, are you ready to make this happen, Dallas?

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Speaker 1: Or y'all ready to make this thing happen. He's got

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Speaker 1: there and make some plays encouraging him to sign him

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Speaker 1: or they've signed him, and he's telling Dallas, I'm here.

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Speaker 1: He says he's back. Okay, he's under the impression that

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Speaker 1: he's going to be on the roster. I think, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: now they got to make a move. Now, what were

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Speaker 1: his comments when he left? Basically said that the uh

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Speaker 1: that he wasn't gonna he would They ask him if

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Speaker 1: he was ever gonna come back, and he said, I'm

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Speaker 1: never coming back. Hearing was I start because they hadn't

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Speaker 1: released des yet, right, Yeah, there was a beef with Dez,

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Speaker 1: and I think once that situation where he's alved itself,

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Speaker 1: the door was wide open again. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: he does not need a starting spot. He is back, well,

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Speaker 1: he needs a job. He's been promised as he's been

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Speaker 1: promised a starting position. No, he needs a job, that's

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Speaker 1: number one, you know. And he needs to come in

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Speaker 1: here with hat in hand or any duffel bagging or

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Speaker 1: what his backpack in hand. You know, if they're gonna

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Speaker 1: if they're gonna make this move, you know, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's they're not gonna dress seven wide receivers. Now there's somebody.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna sit, you know. And and again we've kind

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Speaker 1: of speculated that could it be something happened with Terrence Williams.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how that. But they're not gonna dress seven

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Speaker 1: wide receivers. But when he gets an opportunity, he needs

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Speaker 1: to go make plays. He does. He needs to make

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Speaker 1: those plays down the field. The catches that he can

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Speaker 1: make down the field, those things are all good that

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Speaker 1: he can do. But he doesn't need to get penalties

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Speaker 1: blocking the back, you know, too many men in the

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Speaker 1: huddle or whatever else for that. Well, I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: when we look at things that happened during the game,

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Speaker 1: who does it happened too, Yeah, it happens to the

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Speaker 1: number nineteen. And he needs to catch the ball, and

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Speaker 1: he needs to catch the ball. That's exactly right. If

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Speaker 1: that ball is going down the field he needs. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to remember the one catch he made in a

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Speaker 1: game extended over his head. He fell on his rear.

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Speaker 1: It was late in the season, I can't remember, but

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Speaker 1: it's along the sidelines. He needs to make those plays.

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Speaker 1: He can't go down the field and drop a ball,

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Speaker 1: or take a slant and drop the ball, or take

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Speaker 1: a dig route or an in cut and drop the ball.

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Speaker 1: If they're going to bring you in here and sign

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Speaker 1: you to try and early in the season to try

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Speaker 1: and help this team when you get opportunity, don't fail.

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Speaker 1: His lease for me is okay. So we'll look for

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Speaker 1: that breaking news at three o'clock this afternoon. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you heard it here from Rob Phillips and you heard

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Speaker 1: it first from Bryce Butler DJ Duffel. Yeah, thank you,

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Speaker 1: Tommy John. Yes, thank you very much, Tommy John. And

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Speaker 1: we will see you in tomorrow. I'm talking Owboys. This

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