WEBVTT - Omarion Talks Growth To Mindfulness, 'Unbothered", B2K Drama & Mor 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:05.000 Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:09.320 Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:11.560 are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:16.400 the building. Yeah, welcome, Hey, thanks for having me and 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:18.400 spend a minute. Ya, how you're doing a long time? 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:20.800 How are you? Man? All as well? Tell me about 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.400 your morning routine? Man? What are you doing the morning 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.079 when you wake up? Um? It depends. You know. The 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:28.440 first thing is brush my teeth. You know what I'm saying? Good, 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:33.479 I mean everything on a spiritual level, Okay, Um, I 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:36.919 definitely take a beat, you know. UM, usually do some 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:39.800 breath work, you know what I'm saying, say some affirmations, 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.040 and I pretty much get my day started after that. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:45.479 When did when did you start doing this? Was this 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.240 always your routine or this is something that you did 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.320 later in life? For yeah, it's something that I, um, 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:56.280 I found more productive later on in life, you know 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.240 what I'm saying. I felt like I've always been spiritual, 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:03.640 but um, just you know, adding the affirmations, it's just 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:06.760 kind of you know, um, and the breathwork has kind 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.600 of like definitely powered me up in a different way 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:14.960 than like drinking coffee or you know, doing anything outside 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:16.880 of myself. Yeah. I feel like at some point you 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:18.880 went on a real journey of healing because I remember 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.039 when you was on your physical routine with the boxing 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.319 and everything, and then it feels like at some point 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:28.240 you started realizing I got to get mentally and emotionally stronger. Yeah. 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.840 Also because of a lot of the things that you 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.080 know that were like happening on the outside, you know 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:37.080 what I'm saying, um, And that's why this book really 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.800 kind of came into fruition unbothered the power of choosing 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.920 joy because you know, I needed to do something more, 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:45.320 you know what I mean, I needed to turn it 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:49.920 inside and you know, really you know, figure out what 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.520 worked for me, you know what I'm saying. And the breathwork, 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.120 you know, the mantras, all of these things that I'm 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.280 sharing in the book definitely put me, you know, on 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:02.160 another level. Just as far as emotional intelligence, you know, um, 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:06.800 our culture you know really struggles with that man, you 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:11.760 know what i mean, emotional maturity and maturity just period, 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.120 you know what I'm saying. As as I've grown, you know, 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.920 as a father, being a parent, you know what i mean, 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:21.000 Like life has definitely showed me that, you know, things 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.320 are not always happening to you, things are happening for you. 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:25.680 You know what I'm saying. You feel like this book 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:29.080 saved you, uh in a way to your practices? Do 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:30.919 you feel like it saved you with like you said, 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.080 everything going on from the industry. You feel like if 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:35.920 it wasn't for some of the things that you practice 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.160 in this book, that you would have wild out and 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.560 did so stupid and for sure, for sure because it's 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.720 so easy to do that. It's so easy to succumb 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:48.519 to your you know, emotions and to um not be thoughtful, 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.760 you know. And that's what really being unbothered is about, 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:53.720 you know what I'm saying. Um, A lot of people 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:57.200 get misconstrued like what I'm bothered is about because you know, 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:02.560 it's definitely an attitude, but you know, people don't understand 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.680 it's being unbothered is dealing with emotions. You know what 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:09.320 I'm saying. It is recognizing and realizing like, Okay, I 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.120 feel this way, you know what I mean? But why 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.520 and what's the best thing for me to do? Um? Oh, 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.000 when you get bothered, not staying there, that's something you learning, 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.480 you know, especially in CBT cognits to behavior therapy when 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.880 you are bothered, when you are triggered, not staying there 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.960 right right now. One thing you talked about that in 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.200 this book is fair, yeah, and how you can make 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.680 fear actually be productive. So for yourself, there's a lot 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:33.640 of things that you went through at a young age 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:35.720 that could have been scary for you or you were 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.880 scared to do. What are some tips you would get 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:43.640 people on how to make fear more productive for your life? Well, definitely, 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.200 you know, realizing and recognizing like why you feel it, 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.640 you know, facing it. It's it's actually more productive than 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.760 you know, staying stuck, because that's what fear does. Fear 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:57.720 kind of like paralyzes you from growing, you know. So 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.960 you know, fear early on definitely became my friend and 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:05.200 my journey because you know, stepping to the stage is 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.600 like nerve racking too. You know a lot of people 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.920 don't understand that. You know, when you get into the stage, 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:15.000 it's always something different every time. You know what I'm saying, 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.280 It might you know, be some family stuff. You know, 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.560 it might not just be that you know, this sound 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.600 man isn't working or this is going on, you know, 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.600 being able to be productive and know that you know, 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:30.600 at the end, all you can do is give your 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:35.160 best effort. You know. Fear has been definitely you know, 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.680 in the front seat with me my whole journey, and 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.000 I got a great relationship with it. I like having 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:41.960 these conversations with people like you could you've been around 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.000 for such a long time. When you're young and you 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.200 know you don't have the language that you have now, 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:49.240 they'll throw you out on the stage even if you 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.960 are dealing with something you gotta you gotta push through. Yep. 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.200 So how was that? How did you have to coo 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.000 put that back? Then? Did you even realize that you 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.360 were going through? Nah? Nah? Actually, because I was so young, 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.440 you know what I mean, Like a lot of the time, 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.680 you know, um in the future, certain things would come 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:07.080 up and I would be like, why do I feel 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:08.479 that way? You know what I'm saying? And it was 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:12.800 because you know, I was in the moment, but but 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.880 but not really a present, you know what I'm saying. 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.600 So so yeah, so what was what? What would you 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:23.120 say the reason you wrote this book? I would say 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:27.239 the main the core reason is not only to share 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.359 my stories, but you know, like the late great Nipsey 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:34.240 Hustles say, you know, UM, to inspire is the highest 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:38.080 human act. So you know, I'm just really hoping that, 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.479 you know, I can be a voice you know for 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.080 you know, all the people that's coming up and that 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.560 needed this infort I needed this information, you know what 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:50.480 I'm saying. Um, I'm just hoping it inspires the world. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.599 You've been keeping a lot of shit in the tuck though, Maria. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:53.960 I feel like you feel like you came with the 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.080 book then the first of the Doctor. Yeah, and it 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.039 was like Mario's writing a book. I'm like, damn, he 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.440 was holding all that in the chamberhood. Yeah, got an 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.400 album too, in the cut, you know what I mean, 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.160 wrote a TV show, you know what I mean, doing 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.880 a movie. So yeah, I just buckled down and really 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.640 start focusing on what I feel like, you know, these 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.359 different verticals, like what I want to contribute at this 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.120 point in time, you know, because it's hard to stay 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.279 mot motivated in this game. You know, they're always changing 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.279 the goal posts, you know, and a lot of people 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:24.080 are not you know, in tune all the time. You know, 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:25.800 they're like, well what are you doing? Or you know, 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.479 and it's like yo, you know, I'm one of the 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.520 few child prodigies that came up in the game. So 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:33.719 work for me is this, you know what I'm saying, 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.400 This is my life. This is what I've contribute the 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.360 most energy too. So you know, I'm always I'm always 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:41.200 working on something. It made you not respond or right, 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.839 because you've been going through a lot the last ten years, 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.640 everything and every I mean ninety percent of people are 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:53.080 gonna respond somehow someway. Yeah, whether it's personal, whether it's relationship, 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.680 whether it's family, whether it's your group, whether it's your label, 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:03.400 whatever it is, you don't respond right? Why I think that? Um, 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.839 you know, I'm I'm a I am a methodical person. 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.480 I am a thoughtful person. So a lot of the time, 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.120 you know, if I am going to respond, I want 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.680 to make sure that you know, I get what I 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:17.640 need from it, you know what I mean? Because rarely 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.800 when we react into life that we actually get what 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:22.960 we want, you know what I mean. So for me, 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.720 I've always just been like, okay, you know, um, at 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.640 those moments, you know, those ups and downs of my career, 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.120 I've always just been like, I'm gonna do what's best 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.360 for me, you know, Um, you check a box like 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:38.760 I remember he said that. She said, I definitely, I 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:45.120 definitely have a mental list. Nah, No, I don't. I 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.560 don't think because I'm sure enough to realize that a 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.560 lot of people's perspectives and just position in life are 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:56.560 you know, temporary, you know what I'm saying, Because things change, 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:58.640 you know what I'm saying. So I try my best 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.040 to not take things personal. You feel like you slipped 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:02.720 a little with all these things that have been happening, 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:03.880 and he has to be like, let me go back 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.880 into my arm. No, I think. No. I think that 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.080 it's important to stand up for yourself too, you know 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.760 what I mean. I think people get confused when you know, 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:15.160 people speak up, that it's like, oh me not or 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.800 me being bothered instead of being unbothered. But I think 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.120 that it's important to also stand up for yourself and 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:21.960 speak up when you feel that, you know what I mean. 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:24.880 I think that's important as a man, you know what 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.119 I'm saying, to really speak up for yourself on your journey. 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:32.040 Otherwise you know, um, you know, things just don't happen. 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.840 But okay, so what about Rasby saying he was triggered 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.040 by certain things in the documentary did you feel some 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.600 type of or more It's like, Okay, this was a 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:44.120 serious issue you know for him, I think, um, for 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:50.880 raz that you know, UM, he's a really it's interesting, 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:56.440 you know, UM because you know, he obviously is intelligent 0:08:56.679 --> 0:09:04.000 enough to see an opportunity to speak about things, you know, um, 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:08.000 and use it to his advantage, you know. Um. And 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.120 what do I mean by that? You know, I just 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:14.080 mean that, you know, I've never I mean, I know Rasby, 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:15.800 you know what I mean. And I've never heard him 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.440 say he's been triggered, you know what I mean. But 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:21.360 I also, you know, have you know, along with my team, 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.920 especially on tour, you know, have given him the opportunity 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:30.920 to better his process, and you know he hasn't taken 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.520 those opportunities, you know. And the thing that's I think 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:36.840 that's tough for me and a lot of people to 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:40.559 understand it is, you know, as you know, a type 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:44.520 of brother, you know, you have to hold your brother accountable, 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.760 you know what I mean. So when he said that 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.320 he was triggered, I think that that is something that 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.600 he could have felt. But you know, if people watch 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:57.040 actually watch the docu, you know I was there supporting him, 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.120 you know, although that small clip was out there. You know, 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.160 me and my team, we were out there supporting him, 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:05.560 asking them what he needed, you know, um, trying to 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:10.080 figure out, you know, our best to help him face 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.120 you know, these very traumatic things that he's been through. 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.040 You know. So I just thought it was interesting, you know, 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.959 that he decided to see the clip you know, in 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:24.080 which you know, he uh you know, wrote off on 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.160 to say that he was being triggered. I thought, I 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.840 just thought it was interesting because he knows that, you know, 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:32.680 I've been for me. He had to sign off on 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.679 his part in the documentary. Yes, I'm saying, like, you know, 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:39.040 just was interesting. It's just like, yo, but you know, 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:40.880 we were on tour and we were supporting you. We 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:42.480 told you ask and how did that work? But you 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:44.520 know how healing is though. Healing is like it's not 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:49.560 a destinations. Something may not bother you on Monday, but 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.200 that's the same thing might trigger you onto Yeah, and 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.040 you're right, You're right. I agree, you know, I just 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.800 think that it's it's interesting in the timing, you know 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.520 what I'm saying, because that clip had been out there 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.360 for a couple of days and then it was just 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:06.440 like Okay, but are you getting help? Bro? Yeah? Are 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.520 you taking the steps? Are you taking the steps you 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:13.840 know to to not always express you know, your emotion 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.600 student Internet, like, are you doing the work now? Are 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:19.880 you doing the work? That's not what I see? That's 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.079 not what I see? And how is it with you know, 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.559 because you guys were brothers growing up, Like, yeah, you 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.000 guys were everywhere together. You guys grew up with each other. 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.600 So how is it that you guys really don't mesh 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:35.600 and speak and communicating When they do it's usually I 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.760 haven't heard you say really much bad about them, anything 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:39.640 bad about them, but them talking bad about you? So 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:41.440 how does that work? Because you all are still on 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:46.800 tour a world? Yeah, um, yeah, that's that's a that's 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:52.000 a that's a challenging question just because you know, there 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.520 were a lot of people, you know, like, let's let's 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.199 just take the concept of brotherhood, right, you know what 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:00.760 I mean, everybody has a different version of that, you know, fortunately, 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.880 because some people don't actually have siblings, you know what 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.360 I mean, it means different things to different people. So 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.640 I would say, in one aspect through our journey, you know, 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:14.240 we were put together to be brothers, you know, what 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.800 I'm saying. But I don't think in essence we were 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.280 you know what I'm saying. I think that, you know, 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:24.319 there were a lot of people, you know, that made 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:28.800 sure that we connected and then disconnected, you know what 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:33.280 I mean. You know, certain people on our journey, it's 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.640 almost like we were made to be brothers, to be 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.960 secret enemies, you know what I mean. And there's only 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:43.040 certain stories that could kind of you know embody like 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.120 what that means, you know, because I believe in the 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:49.720 real brotherhood, jealousy doesn't exist. You know. You might you 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.319 might feel like you might feel like, Okay, well dang, 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:53.960 look at my bro he going up. I want to 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:58.240 be inspired, but it never makes you vindictive. It never 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.440 makes you jealous. It never makes you go past a 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:05.160 certain point, you know. And with our journey, you know, 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:09.280 things have went way past go you know what I'm saying. So, 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.600 you know, I would say in the aspect of our journey, 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:16.440 you know, we're we have a brotherhood, but in reality, 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:20.520 you know what I mean, I wouldn't say that they 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:25.600 identify as what I consider my brother, like my brother Ryan, 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.280 you know, like our journey, the things that we've shown 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.520 each other, you know, the challenging times we have. The 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.000 way we got through that, you know, that's how you're 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.040 able to really truly identify who someone is to you 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:38.800 in your life, you know what I mean. Somebody that 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:43.199 loves you. You know, they don't do certain things. You know, 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.559 they don't say certain things. You know what I'm saying. 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.440 So you know, if we're just really looking at it, 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.000 you know what I mean as far as what it is, 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:52.680 you know what I'm saying. If it acts like a duck, 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.000 if it talked like a duck, it's a duck. You 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.440 talk about forgiveness in the book too, though, yes, so 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:00.600 do you believe in that? I know you also say 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.439 there was like an elder person who really was manipulative. Yeah, 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.479 and that's what kind of caused the strain and the relationship. 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.960 Do you think that there's a way to discuss things 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.080 behind the scenes off camera and come to some healing 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.480 because you did, you know, sit down with jay Bug 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:17.960 and give them a chance. You talk about that in 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:21.480 the book as well, and you know, decide to reconnect 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.320 and go on tour. But can you see something like 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.200 that happening or do you feel like some things, like 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.800 you said, fuck it, I can't control it. Yeah, I 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:32.480 think that there's definitely a lot of you know, healing, 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.200 you know what I'm saying, that could go on, and 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.360 that would be awesome, you know what I'm saying. But 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.480 I will also say that, like, you know, we're all 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:43.160 definitely on different levels. But as far as forgiveness goes 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.320 in the aspect of the book, the reason why forgiveness 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.560 is so important because as you know, it's for you too, 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.920 you know, And it doesn't mean that you have to, 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:58.320 you know, decide now because I forgive you that. You know, 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.280 we're all of a sudden going to do what we 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.560 was doing, you know what I'm saying. You know, it's 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.360 a process, you know. And I would say for me, 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.400 you know, um, it's been a it's been a long journey. 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.240 It's been such a process for me to be able 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:16.760 to really understand how certain things in certain people's lives 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.360 and even in their journeys that you can't even speak about. 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.960 It's not even your right, you know, to be like, yeah, well, 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.960 y'all don't really know what happened, because I do, and 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:30.800 I'm just choosing to be respectful to you know, allow 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.080 someone to really speak about their journey you know what 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.120 I mean. And that's so important, you know what I'm saying, 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.520 to not step on people's toes and for me, you know, 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.360 I've forgiven them, you know what I'm saying, You forgive them, 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.840 but not necessarily forget or not necessarily want to be 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.560 in you know, a brotherhood or a relationship or anything 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.360 with them ever. Again, they're like, I can forgive you, 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:54.760 but yeah, yeah with you, well, it's like I can 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.960 forgive you, you know, but at this point in time, 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:02.120 you know it, you know our relationship, you know, it 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:06.760 doesn't serve you know where I need to be and 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.880 the energy that I must keep myself in in order 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:13.280 to keep my own peace, you know. Um. And that's 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.600 the most interesting thing about people you love. You know 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.440 what I'm saying. You even got to take breaks from them, 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:22.040 you know what I'm saying. So yeah, if you want to, 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.160 you know, put it plainly, then I would say, do 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:27.800 we ever know a person's whole story? Though? Because you 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.800 said that, you know, you know, you said you wouldn't 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.000 speak on certain things because you I guess know, but 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.800 you ever really truly know everything that a person though? 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:43.040 I think that, Um, I think I think yes and 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:46.440 no you know, Um, I think the people closest you know, 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.160 you know what I'm saying, even though it is another perspective, 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:52.920 you know what I'm saying, I think, yeah, you know 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.400 what I mean, there's certain people like I could speak 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:58.520 about my kids in a certain type of way I'm saying. 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.800 So I think there's people that you know. But for 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:04.600 the most part, you know, um, you can surmise what's 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.960 going on, and you can definitely see the influences and 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:11.200 you can see you know, who takes you know, more 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:16.399 percentage of the influence, you know, through the actions. So yeah, 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:17.879 I want I wanted to ask, and you know, we 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.520 haven't seen you a long time, so zil you no 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.720 more questions? When when one of the members of the 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:29.040 group was talking to your baby's mother, your children's mother. Yeah, Abril, yeah, 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.879 Abril Yeah, how did that make you feel? Because you know, 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:34.920 it's it's when you think about certain things, it's a 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:36.760 man like, you know, punch me in my face, keep 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.919 my car, you know, pop my tires, call me a 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:43.320 bitch ass nigga, right, but certain things you just don't do. 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:45.760 So at that point, how did you feel and did 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.840 you know? Um, yeah, I knew you know I heard, 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:54.120 and you know, it really turned up my own bother 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:59.280 because he turned from no I did, No, I didn't 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:02.159 a whole nother, you know what I'm saying, because I 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:06.040 knew that what he was doing was on purpose, you know, 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.840 And it didn't really prove anything, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.159 It didn't really prove anything because you know, at the 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.200 end of the day, you know, you have to recognize 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.240 that people make their own choices, and most of the 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:20.720 time it don't even have nothing to do with you, 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.879 you know what I'm saying. So he made that choice, 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.600 and I don't think it was a smart choice. What 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.239 about her? Did you ever feel like, why why are 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.359 you doing this? Yeah? Man, yeah, you know I asked 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:37.119 that question, you know many times, you know, because I 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:41.000 can't put you know, for the sake you know understand, 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:45.560 But but you know, from from her perspective, you know, 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.040 someone that's hurt, you know what I'm saying. You know, 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:49.960 hurt people, hurt people, you know what I mean, And 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:52.960 some people just take it to another level, you know 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.679 what I mean. And she definitely took it to a 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.840 whole another level. And I remember was having that conversation 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.920 here and I said, well, I don't know if Marion 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.000 and uh fiars are close, they might not be close, 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.440 but so in his mind that might not be a violation. 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:13.600 But for her, clearly y'all had a situal relationship y'all. Yeah, 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.080 I mean anybody that's around me, you know what I mean, 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.879 anybody that I invite into my space. You know what 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.119 I mean. I'm obviously comfortable with them, you know what 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:25.359 I mean. So you know, um to say that we 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.240 ain't close, you know what I'm saying. You know, because 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:31.480 this was like early on, you know, early on, you know, 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:33.919 when I you know, invited And this is probably the 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:42.080 last time I'll speak about this, you know what I'm saying. Exercise, Yeah, 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:46.200 I speak about this about it. Yeah, yeah, you know 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:49.439 what I mean. But um, you know, uh, when me 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:55.040 and FIDS linked back up, you know, it was it 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.440 was like definitely some synergy, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:01.399 Like he was definitely in a different you know, personality, 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:03.360 you know what I'm saying. You know, I would say 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.120 that he was more like humble, you know, he needed 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.840 he needed something, you know what I'm saying. So you 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.359 know when we was hanging out, you know, that's what 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:12.880 the vibe was, you know what I mean, We were 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.080 going on bike rides. We was really essentially getting back 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.280 to a new level you know, of brotherhood, you know 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:22.119 what I'm saying. And there was times that he came over, 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:23.679 you know what I mean, and he was dealing with 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.240 other girls, and he came over while me and April 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.560 were in a relationship, you know what I'm saying, His 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.439 invitation you know, to be on love and hip like 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:32.920 all of that, you know what i mean. So that's 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:36.040 why I said it turned up mind father, because I 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:37.840 knew that it was intentional, you know what I mean. 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:40.160 And it was just like why are you doing that? Though? Bro? 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:42.760 Like what do you get from this? You know what 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.600 I'm saying? Like what you you think you won a 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.719 contest or something, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:54.000 what you did was destroy something? You know that, you know, 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:58.040 one apology, you know what I mean, It's not enough, 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:01.040 you know what I'm saying. So you still decided to 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:04.119 go on tour with them? Yeah, what was that decision? Like? 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:09.639 Because what most people would be like, So what was that? 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:11.760 Because you had to forgive to at least allow them 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:16.920 to allow them to make money, right, Yeah, so what 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.960 what the most important thing to me? You know, um, 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:25.280 outside my own experience, you know, for myself. You know, 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:27.679 once I had kids, you know what I mean, that 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:30.440 changed everything for me, you know, and that changed everything 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:34.159 for me just as far as you know, my consideration 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:37.879 and you know, them not asking to be here and 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.879 you know what it means to really be a father, 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:42.600 you know what I mean to be a father, you 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:44.640 have to consider those things, you know what I'm saying. 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:47.840 So you know, I had to ask myself, was my 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:53.800 hate or my disdain for my experience, you know, more 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:59.879 important than you know the connections and the impact that 0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:03.920 I've had on music, you know, um, during my time 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:07.760 in the group, and when I thought about how impactful 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:11.120 that would be to my kids, you know, that was 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:13.920 That was pretty much how I decided, you know what 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:17.440 I'm saying. And I was just like, you know, whatever 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:20.440 they did, you know what I mean, whatever people did, like, 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.480 it can't compare to that, you know what I'm saying. 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:29.679 So that was that was my That was my deciding factory. Yeah. No, 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.640 my mom's was just like I mean, everybody in support, 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:35.720 you know, my family, um, and I have to definitely 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:38.520 you know, thank Michelle. You know what I mean, Because 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:42.159 Michelle was really the real reason why I decided to 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:46.200 go on tour, because she helped me understand that. You know, 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:51.160 because for so long you know what I mean, I, um, 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:58.399 you know, have been on her right there. She's my 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:02.399 business partner. She is my CEO of my company OWW 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:07.119 or Marion Worldwide. So um, you know, she really helped 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:11.960 me see the value in Um, you know why it 0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:14.520 was important to do it as well, because you know 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:18.040 what I'm saying, for the longest I've been you know, 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:23.760 you know, striving to mature from O Marion from B 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.240 two K you know what I mean. And you know 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:29.280 so many other artists has had an opportunity to do that. 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:32.320 You know what I'm saying. Beyonce, you know, justin timber Lake, 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:35.440 you know what I'm saying. Um, yeah, you know what 0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:39.680 I mean. I've always been pulled back, you know what 0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:42.600 I mean, And I couldn't figure figure that out, you 0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:45.560 know what I'm saying. Um, I feel like you did, Rick. 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:49.159 I feel like you do have your own identity. I 0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:52.040 do have my own identity. But you know, as far 0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:56.280 as the connectivity, you know, to the imprint in which 0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:59.639 how B two K separated. It was undone, you know 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.400 what I'm And it wasn't It was undone, not from 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:05.919 us the group. It was undone in our experience, you know, 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.399 And that's why it came back around. So that's what 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.719 I mean. I don't mean not having an identity outside 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.800 of that, because I've obviously been successful as a solo artist, 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.480 you know, on my own with number one albums, et cetera, 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:18.399 et cetera, you know what I'm saying. So that's not 0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:22.359 what I mean. I just mean, you know, being supported 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:26.360 by you know, everyone, to never have to revisit that 0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:29.400 and it being just something that was a treat which 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:31.280 ended up being, you know what I'm saying, which ended 0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:34.679 up still being. But because of my experience, I felt 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:37.840 definitely not good about it, you know what I'm saying. 0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.199 So it had to come back around in order for 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:44.760 me to deal with it again, and for sure on 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:46.879 so many levels, Like that's what I'm saying, Like I 0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:49.600 would never think that I would become an author, you 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:51.639 know what I'm saying. Like I spent a year and 0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:54.760 a half, you know what I'm saying, writing and asking 0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:58.399 myself question after question. You know what I'm saying, Um, 0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:01.840 so yeah, you know, this is a purposeful journey, you 0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:04.120 know what i mean. And you reflected on your relationship 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:07.640 with your father. Yeah as well. He was incarcerated when 0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:09.960 you were younger, and you guys did end up reconnecting. 0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.080 How do you think that's molded you into who you are? 0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:16.680 It's molded me in a very unique way, you know 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.680 what i mean. You always hear about people not having 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:23.200 their fathers and having um, you know, that male influence. 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:26.240 But it turned into so many great things for me, 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.560 you know, like me being the thing that I wanted 0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:31.439 the most, you know what I'm saying. And then fast 0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.360 forward us having a relationship now, you know what I mean. 0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:37.159 Like we took our first trip last year. We went 0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:39.320 to dr you know what I'm saying, that we just 0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.679 chilled and it's like, you know, it's so dope, you know, 0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:45.720 to be able to see where I come from and 0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:49.800 to realize, you know, some of my courts and you know, 0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:52.040 perspectives as a person, you know what I'm saying. And 0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:54.480 it's dope to get that ladder on in life, you 0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:56.199 know what I'm saying. Because I didn't have really a 0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:59.080 lot of o Jeza you know men in the game. 0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:00.399 You know what I'm saying, A lot of people that 0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:04.240 I look up to really actually give me information that 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:07.399 was useful, you know what I'm saying. So essentially I 0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.440 had to be my own og, you know what I'm saying. 0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:12.320 So I look at some of the ogs deffinitely because 0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:14.000 of that, you know what I'm saying, because I feel 0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.520 like I'm a young og and I didn't really have 0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:19.200 no help like that. I'm glad so many brothers are 0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:20.840 having that conversation because the first time I ever had 0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:22.760 a breakthrough in therapy, first time I ever cried in therapy, 0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:25.959 was discussing it's my daddy issues, you know what I mean, 0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:28.960 because we want that relationship with our fathers so bad 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:31.680 and some of us don't have it. You know, then 0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:33.680 you get older, you got your own kids, and you 0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:35.840 kind of just winging it because nobody ever showed you 0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:39.919 I'd really be a good father exactly exactly, and that 0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:43.560 ladder on in life, man, it was like it was 0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:45.199 like a treat. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, 0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:47.480 I'm like so happy that I go get the kigging 0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:49.560 with my dad and you know what I'm saying, he flied. 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:51.760 You know what I'm saying, Like he liked to do 0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.440 things a certain type of way. And I'm like, oh, okay, 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.360 you see you. Yeah yeah, And it's so dope when 0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:59.920 I see my son, because that's that's what I see, 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:01.800 you know what I'm saying. And do you know he 0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:04.199 just he just got a phone and now he like 0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.600 texts me things that he likes. And I'm just like, 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:11.960 what He's eight Yeah, shout out to Mega. He's probably 0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:15.560 gonna watch this one day. So let's talk about the 0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:17.960 vine timing because I find it so interesting that there 0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:21.359 was the verses right, probably didn't go to where you 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:25.040 wanted it to go back fully, for sure, you seem 0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.680 like you're reacted with work. You reacted with the doctor, 0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.240 reacted with the book, the show. How did that come about? 0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:35.440 Because clearly that's the vine time, Yo, that's facts, that's facts. Um, 0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.600 I've just been preparing. I've just been preparing, and like 0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:42.560 you said, you know, the vine timing, and even though um, 0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.879 you know versus didn't go you know, it still was, 0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.520 you know, wildly successful, the most successful one, you know, 0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.120 so to be able to show up in the journey 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.040 and be able to be like, you know what, damn, 0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:55.280 this might not have been a way that I wanted 0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:57.840 things to go, but oh wait a minute, watch this 0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:01.040 move right here. So I'm really highly thankful for you know, 0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.000 all the energies. You know what I'm saying. Rest in peace. 0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:07.040 My my analogy transitioned earlier this year, you know what 0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.280 I mean. So I definitely feel like the ancestors on 0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:12.280 the other side is moving certain things in the universe 0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:16.040 for me. Um and I'm just excited, man. Feel when 0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:17.840 people were questioning your talent, Yeah, I was gonna say, 0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:20.840 what went wrong that night? What would you have changed? Well, 0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:22.360 you know, it was a lot of things that went 0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:25.560 wrong that night, first being um, not not have a 0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.639 sound check and then also another report, why didn't you 0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:31.479 do a sound check? There was no time they were 0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:35.600 It was so underwhelming. They were not prepared, you know 0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:40.160 for what I expected to be kind of you know, 0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.760 a night in R and B that just kind of 0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:45.880 turned the sexy up on the planet again, you know 0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:48.880 what I'm saying, Like, really, let's talk about the women, 0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:50.720 you know what I mean. But it became kind of 0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.120 hip hop really really fast, you know what I'm saying. 0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:55.480 Early on, it was like that was the set of 0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:59.200 the energy, you know what I'm saying. And um, it 0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.640 was like from that from the rip, it was like 0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:03.520 it was on for the rest of the night, you 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.000 know what I'm saying. So, but again, you know what 0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:09.400 I mean, I wouldn't change anything, you know what I mean. Um, 0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:11.640 what was your question again? How do you people people 0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:13.960 questioning your Yeah, I think that that's the mark of 0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:17.400 a legend, you know what I'm saying. I remember, I remember, 0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:21.120 you know, hearing people say Michael, Michael Jackson couldn't seen 0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:25.280 you know what I'm saying. Like, and you know, when 0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:29.160 when you're when you have been doing something for so long, 0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.040 you know, you can definitely have an off night, you 0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.880 know what I mean. Um, but that is not the 0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:37.960 tell tale of you know, of a twenty two year career, 0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.239 you know what I mean. So I feel like, you know, 0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:45.040 that's another strike, you know what I'm saying, Like it 0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:47.360 felt like people took the opportunity to say things to 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:52.640 you that they've always wanted to. It definitely felt like, Yeah, 0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:54.640 that was crazy. It was. It was a lot of 0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.840 energy for me, you know, but it's all good. Boy, 0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:02.959 had to bother you a little bit. You are well. 0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:08.160 Let me say it definitely may challenge me unlike I've 0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:12.120 been challenging such a long time to level up, because 0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.600 you know, I'm one of those people that you know, 0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.880 I don't really move for much, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.960 you know, because I study and I practice and I 0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.960 work on my craft so much, you know what I mean. 0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.760 So I'm unmoved. But one thing that can't move me. 0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:31.760 One thing that has moved me, you know, was the 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.240 will to just be better. And I think that that's 0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:38.440 something different in my generation than like you know, Stevie 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.600 Wonder and Marvin Is. Like when when I got to 0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:44.680 enjoy their art, they were already at their highest level, 0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.000 you know what I'm saying. But people that's born in 0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:51.040 the eighties, you know, eighty four Lebron, myself, certain people 0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.400 that's born in that time, it's like we're able to 0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:57.160 show you like we're getting better, you know what I'm saying. 0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:01.240 And I think that that's so very interesting in my time, 0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:05.480 you know what I'm saying, Because I plan on performing 0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:07.720 and doing what I love for the rest of my life, 0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.880 you know what I'm saying, and all capacities, you know 0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:14.720 what I'm saying, as an entertainment mogul, you know what 0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.720 I mean, A director, a writer, a producer, all of 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:19.920 these you know, I plan on doing this for life. 0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:23.240 So I believe that. I mean, you're five acts of joy. 0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.600 Three of them have to do with that singing, writing, 0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:29.640 and piano. Yeah. Yeah, that's all about entertainment and performing. 0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.640 And so this is something you would do no matter what. Yeah, 0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:36.239 because it's the real expression of exuberance. And it's like, 0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.360 if you live in that's really what you want to display, 0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:40.720 you know what i mean, Like when you get that 0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:42.960 big check, it's like you want to dance and you 0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:44.840 want to be happy. You know what I'm saying. When 0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:48.880 something good goes well, it shows up in your body. 0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.640 You know what I'm saying. So you know, for me, 0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:53.960 that's how I want to live, you know what I mean, 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.760 And I want to be the epitome I will be, 0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.800 you know, the epitome of that you know expression joy, 0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:03.560 because it's really it really makes this experience worth living, 0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:05.520 you know what I'm saying, Because all of the other things, 0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.280 you know what I'm saying, all of the other you know, 0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.760 aspects of life, you know what I mean, that are 0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:13.840 necessary too. You know what I'm saying, in order to 0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:17.840 create a balanced experience, but you know it doesn't always 0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:19.800 feel good, you know what I'm saying. So you got 0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:22.400 the chapter call Purpose. What do you think your main 0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:25.680 life purpose is? Because sometimes I wonder is it anything 0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.680 to do with entertainment? I feel like purpose is bigger 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:33.720 than that in some ways. Yeah, I would agree, Um, yeah, 0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:37.200 I mean I feel like, you know, my purpose on 0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.920 this planet is to remind people that joy is a choice. 0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:45.080 You know what I'm saying. And you know, through this experience, 0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:47.440 you know what I mean, You'll have You're running into 0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:51.040 some things, you know what I'm saying, that can make 0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.239 or break your experience. You know what I mean. And 0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.320 it's really up to you, you know what I'm saying 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.040 at the end of the day, to be able to 0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:01.960 choose happiness, you know what I'm saying. Period. I was 0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.720 gonna ask what's your relationship with Rick Ross? Because I 0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:07.720 know that you guys as far as business is concerned, Yeah, 0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:10.080 decided to dissolve it. And I heard him, you know, 0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.280 throw a couple of shots in a couple of souls, right, 0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:14.800 So what is your relationship and why why did you 0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:18.840 decide to leave or whatever it maybe well, you know, 0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:23.920 I was under the impression, you know, at the time 0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:28.280 of you know, may Back music and inception. You know 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:31.640 what it is that I contributed to his business, you 0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:33.280 know what I'm saying. And I feel like on that 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:35.920 level he respects me, and you know he has to 0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:40.600 respect me, so you know, um, you know that's cool, 0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:43.040 you know, but as far as personally, you know, man, 0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.960 it's all good. Man Rosehy is one of the funniest 0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:48.560 person's like to come across, you know what I'm saying. 0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.000 So you know, if I see him, salute, you know 0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:54.280 what I mean. But you know, he showed me. He 0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:56.239 showed me some things, you know what I'm saying. So 0:33:56.360 --> 0:34:00.840 because he showed me things, you know, even though you know, um, 0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:02.960 he could have helped more, you know what I'm saying. 0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:06.800 He could have you know, he could have you know, 0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:11.400 lend more of a hand than you know what he 0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:20.319 was maybe you know, portrayed to you know, be but um, yeah, 0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.759 I appreciate the experience. Man. I had so much fun 0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.040 over in may Back music and making that music at 0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.520 that time, and you know, being able to create an 0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.600 alias may Back. Oh, to feel a part of something 0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.400 that was like, truly outside of my culture and outside 0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:35.400 of myself. How hands on was he when he because 0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.799 you know Ross has an their right you know, listening 0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:40.520 to Ross's albums and melodically they sound amazing. Yeah, how 0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:43.640 hands on was he with your projects? If he was? Yeah, no, man, 0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.799 Rose shows up. You know what I'm saying. Rose was there, 0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.719 you know what I mean, Like he definitely like all right, 0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:52.440 this is what you want to do? Oh boom do it? 0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:54.600 You know what I'm saying. When when it was that time? 0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:57.000 You know what I'm saying. But when it was that 0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:59.160 when it wasn't that time, It wasn't that time. You 0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.480 know what I'm saying. It was trying for some other things? 0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.680 Could you have done more of you think for you? 0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.400 I just I was I would just say, you know, 0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.640 one of one of the one of the tales tales 0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:11.520 for me. You know what I'm saying. Was the last 0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:14.400 conversation him and I had when um, you know he 0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:17.040 came out to LA and you know, I just expressed 0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.800 him as a businessman. You know, I need to prepare myself, 0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:23.760 you know what I'm saying for you know my transitions 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:27.319 and you know, respectfully, you know if there's something going 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:30.120 on with you in Atlantic, you know, just let me 0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.440 know so I could prepare myself, you know what I'm saying. 0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:34.440 I was very clear with him with that, you know 0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.480 what I mean. He was like, I got you, you 0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:40.279 know what I mean, And it was like, you know, 0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.160 may Back Music is no longer a label and it's 0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.879 you know, I gotta go and actually do the work 0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:49.239 that was necessary for my journey to like figure out 0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:51.040 you know, where I was and it wasn't in a 0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.279 good position, you know what I'm saying. So that's really 0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:55.680 what I'm talking about. You know what I'm saying. It's like, 0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.879 you know, we had a conversation, you know what I'm saying, 0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:00.920 but you didn't honor that you feel like you needed to. 0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:05.840 So look, you think sometimes as black artists being that 0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.719 where black, instead of approaching it from just business, we 0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:11.480 look at all these situations like family, whether it's bt K, 0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:13.880 whether it's Made Back music, like, instead of looking at 0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.520 it from just districtly business aspects like now we're your family, 0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.319 so we get extra disappointed when things don't work out. Um. 0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:22.600 I think that there is you know, a feeling and 0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.080 an aspect you know to business when you do people. 0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:27.520 When you do business with people that you like, I 0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.040 wouldn't even say it's just a family thing, you know, 0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:31.919 it's people that you like, you know what I'm saying. 0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:38.120 So I think that you know, being transparent is important 0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:42.040 and it's imperative for the success of the brand, you 0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.480 know what I'm saying, Because you know, if you do 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:47.400 business with somebody and they're not willing to take accountability, 0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:49.719 then you know, you kind of just left out there, 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.160 you know, without a plan, you know, and if it's 0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:54.680 like a trust thing too. Yeah, But I think the 0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:59.239 point of businesses is success. That's the point of you know, 0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:03.520 our merger. We're coming together to you know, benefit each other, 0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:05.560 you know, not for me to get more from you 0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.839 or for you know, it to be vice versa. You know, 0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:10.879 it has to be a mutual thing. That's the only 0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.240 kind of business I'm interested in. You know what I'm saying. 0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:16.759 You go to therapy, right? Um? No, no, I have 0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:19.839 what what? What? What? What is a Marion done wrong 0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:23.640 in any of these situations? I think, Um, I think, 0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:26.160 not speak up, you know what I'm saying, Maybe not 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:32.920 speak up, maybe not have the words to you know, um, 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:36.640 you know, voice my opinion. And also I think I'm 0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.680 a little you know, early on because I started so young. 0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:42.799 You know, I'm a little gullible, you know what i mean. 0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.080 Just as far as business, you know what I'm saying that, 0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.799 as far as what people don't give you, what people 0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:49.680 are not supposed to give you. You know what I'm saying, 0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.879 Like the respect that sometimes you assume you might give, 0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.200 but that you're never really shown, you know what I'm saying. 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:58.920 So I would say that, you know, that's definitely on me, 0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:01.319 you know what I'm saying. But I don't have no 0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.120 problem you know what I'm saying, being honest about my 0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:07.840 mistakes and taking accountability, you know what I mean, for 0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.719 anything that I've done wrong to people. You know what 0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:13.359 I'm saying, That they may have felt that I've done wrong, 0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.600 you know what I mean. If you have, If you 0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:19.640 if you ever came across me and you know, have 0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:22.800 a relationship with me and you were confused about something, 0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:25.040 there was always an opportunity for you to be able 0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:29.120 to you know, gaining some clarity. You know what I'm saying. Um, 0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:31.520 but the actions, you know what I'm saying, And that's 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.839 something that we always have to bring into question when 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:36.840 we speaking about people's personalities. You know what I'm saying, 0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.360 Like there's layers to this, you know what I'm saying. 0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.440 And people have to be held accountable for what they're 0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:45.920 projecting versus their actions. You know what I'm saying. So 0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:50.279 you know what I would say. You know that I've 0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.440 done wrong. It's it's just that you know what I'm saying, 0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:55.120 just not you know, but it has gained me such 0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:57.239 a heightened level of awareness. You know what I'm saying 0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.520 that it's probably second or none. You know what I'm 0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:02.560 saying because you know I've been through it over and 0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:04.680 over again. You know what I mean, So I know 0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:06.640 I know where I'm going. You know what I mean. 0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.840 What does joy look like? The amaran hanging out with 0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:13.360 my kids, the water, the beach. You know what I'm saying. 0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:17.000 A woman, you know what I mean? Some curves, um, 0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:21.760 you know what I mean, some pleasant words, some reading, 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:26.440 you know what I'm saying. Some some sex, some you know, 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:29.960 making love, some fucking. You know what I mean. Like 0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.359 all of that. There's like four different ways to say 0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:35.399 sex when people hear that, and like some people, what's 0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:39.520 did making love and fucking to explain to them. Okay, 0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:43.400 I would say that the difference between making love is 0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:50.279 connecting on a deeper level, you know, connecting through um experiences, 0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:58.680 connecting through UM touch, connecting through um you know, spirituality. 0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.680 You know what I'm saying. That's the difference between making 0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.719 love and fucking. You know what I'm saying. Fucking is 0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.680 more of a sport. You know what I'm saying. It's 0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:10.759 more in the in the physical aspects, which you know, 0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:15.000 it's some levels in there too. You know what I'm saying. Uma, 0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:24.560 And I was just thinking about it, you know what 0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:27.719 I mean. But yeah, there's stairs. You know, there's a 0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.200 wide range. When you make music. What music do you 0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:32.280 like to make? Do you like to make soundtracks for fucking? 0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:34.960 I'm making love? I like to do a mix, Okay, 0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:36.080 you know what I mean. I like to do a 0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:41.640 mix because my experience has been very vast, so um, 0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:43.960 I like to do a mix. But more of love, 0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.399 you know what I mean, More of love, because that 0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:51.120 is where intentionalize. You know what I'm saying. Anyone couldn't 0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:53.200 you know what I mean, go to the gym and 0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:55.640 work out and be big, you know what I mean. 0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:59.600 But to actually diet and to like start carving out 0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:03.000 that so you know, it requires a different level, a 0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:05.440 different type of discipline. You know what I'm saying. How 0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:07.120 many times have you made love in your life? Mario? 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:10.960 A few times with the same person, to different people. No, 0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:15.960 different women, Okay, ye're different women, you know. Um. You know, 0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:19.680 to feel vulnerable enough to express yourself as like a 0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:23.360 scary thing, especially for a man, especially for someone you 0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.759 know like me, you know what I mean. But to 0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:29.719 feel comfortable like that, those times were like priceless. You know. 0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:32.400 That's how I made my first child, you know what 0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:35.640 I'm saying. Yeah, okay, yeah, you know what I mean. 0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.960 And it was like mega popped up, bam, Oh a minute, 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:42.640 this thing works. This thing works, you know what I mean. 0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:46.239 But what an experience, you know what I'm saying. And 0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:49.879 we appreciate joining us. I got a couple more questions, man, 0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:51.400 like you know, he asked the question, what are you 0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:54.040 willing to struggle for? Yeah? You do you believe people 0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:56.840 are willing to struggle to accomplish their goals? And do 0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:58.960 you have to struggle? The other thing, especially when it 0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:00.840 comes to our kids. We don't want our kids to 0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.080 struggle that's why we work in the way we work. Yeah, 0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:08.760 I think that a necessary struggle is imperative to life, 0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:12.279 you know what I'm saying, because it makes you, you know, 0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:16.480 apparent to balance. You know what I'm saying, Like everything 0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:18.319 is not good and everything is not bad. You know, 0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:21.280 the life is polaris you know what I'm saying, polarities. 0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.640 So some of the things that I was in the 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:27.359 struggle for is is the things that I go through, 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:29.520 you know what I'm saying. You know what i mean, 0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:33.600 like my experience, you know what I'm saying. In this industry, 0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:36.040 what I'm you know, willing to contribute, you know what 0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:40.160 I'm saying, not being motivated because so many people hating 0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:42.840 on you. You know what I mean, like digging down 0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:45.600 and figuring out like, oh okay, I do this for 0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:48.239 a whole other thing. You know what I'm saying. You know, 0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:50.759 like words and all of that is nice, you know 0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:52.680 what I'm saying. But to be able to be a 0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:55.760 part of a movie like you got served to change people. 0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:57.320 You know. I was just in France, you know what 0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:01.279 I mean, And I went out there solely for this 0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:04.480 thing called Dance Fusion, which all dance competition, you know 0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.400 what I mean, Like and the amount of love you 0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:09.279 know what I mean, across on the world and in 0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:11.560 the world, like yo, you know what I mean. That's 0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:15.080 transitioning into you know, the movies and the other aspects 0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.080 of my career. You know what I mean, That I'll 0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:20.120 be exploring as a mobil So I wouldn't take nothing back, 0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:22.239 but I'm willing to struggle for those things. And you 0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:25.399 said one woman told you that her best friend died 0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:29.000 in ice box. Yeah, that was wild. Yeah, and they 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:30.919 buried a picture with me, you know what I mean, 0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:34.920 which was like at the time, I didn't really understand that, 0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:37.000 you know what I mean. But to be able to 0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.319 show up in someone's life, you know what I mean. 0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:42.480 Fans hit me sometimes be like, yeah, you was in 0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.600 my dream, you know what I mean, Like what is that? 0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:48.120 You know what I'm saying. That's connecting on a deeper level. 0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:50.600 You know that is unseen, you know what I'm saying. 0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:54.680 So to be gifted that in this lifetime experience, you know, 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:56.640 I wanted to be a good one, you know what 0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.600 I mean. Wherever I show up in people's lives, I 0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:02.399 wanted to be prolific, you know I wanted to be 0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.200 you know, something like that story, you know what I mean. 0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:09.320 Like they you know, they had they shared so many 0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:14.240 great memories with my music that it was so intense 0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:18.279 that they wanted to bury a picture, you know, in 0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:22.840 his casket as he is transitioning from this lifetime. He 0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:26.960 put a picture that in her mind that made him happy, 0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:30.239 you know, in his wherever he going, you know what 0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:32.640 I'm saying. So that's deep, you know what I mean. 0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:34.560 So I just want to, you know, continue to un 0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:36.720 as artist. I want to ask you a couple more questions, 0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:41.440 especially in particular the Drink Champion interview. Right, Um, I 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.320 saw Fitz said that he can't he's not in contact 0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:46.800 with you because he never had your number. It's always 0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:52.560 been like that. That true. How does that sounds? I 0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:59.000 don't know. That sounds crazy man without calling you first, Okay, 0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:04.319 come on, ye, come on man, that's a joke. But 0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:06.400 you know he feels some type of way. So and 0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:09.960 he also said that you went solo because he had 0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:14.279 sex with a woman you liked, man, and that was 0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:18.920 so long ago. Um nah, I don't remember that happening. 0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:21.840 Fitz was um he was the first one to go 0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:24.759 solo because you know, Fiz was like the rapper, yeah 0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:26.680 and yeah, and you know the rapper was like the 0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:28.399 most famous in the group. You know what I'm saying. 0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:31.759 So Fitz was definitely like in front, you know what 0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:36.480 I mean, as far as you know, um, certain vibes, 0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:38.080 you know what I mean in the group. You know 0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:41.160 what I mean. You know how like okay, Fitz doing 0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:43.120 something or he on his own way. Shit, we all 0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:44.560 getting on our own way, you know what I mean. 0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:47.319 So I viewed it like that, Um, didn't they kick 0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:50.920 you out the group? Basically? No, no, not really. Now, 0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:53.279 it wasn't they fault. I take that back, No, it 0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:56.680 wasn't they fault. It was it was Chris Stokes fault. 0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:58.319 You know what I'm saying. You know what I mean, 0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:02.600 because you know, he made us become brothers and then 0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.480 you know he separated us, you know what I mean. 0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.680 So he the elder that you talk about, Um, he's 0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:10.160 one of the elders. Okay, you know what I mean. 0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:12.840 You don't have a relationship with him now now you 0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:16.319 know Rasby and I think it's been room with dad. 0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:18.919 You know, he talks about sexual abuse with Chris Stokes. 0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:22.160 Have you ever seen anything like that. I haven't. I 0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.239 haven't seen anything like that, you know what I mean? 0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:37.040 But yeah, I haven't. Right, Yeah, Well that's like, you know, 0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:39.000 the varios are funny. He's not funny to me. But 0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:41.440 it's like, I'm not I'm not. I'm an answer. When 0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:43.319 I want to answer, he don't. He don't engage when 0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:46.000 he doesn't anything, he don't want to engage any engage. 0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:50.880 Respect that I respect. Not a tell all book or 0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:53.320 anything like that. There's a couple of stories that are relevant, 0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:55.680 you know, to what it is that you're trying to 0:46:55.760 --> 0:47:00.719 portray about the spirituality aspect of it. But it's not 0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:04.279 a tell all juice. Yeah, nay Na, I really want 0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:06.839 people to understand, you know what I'm saying, Like through 0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:08.640 the fire, through it all. You know what I'm saying, 0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:11.200 You gotta make certain choices and it's up to you. 0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:13.160 You know what I'm saying. It's really up to you. 0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:15.960 You know what I mean. And I also I also 0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:18.680 don't think y'all realize the impact y'all, or maybe y'all do. 0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:20.600 I don't think y'all realize the impact y'all had on 0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:23.000 the generation. Because truth be told, I didn't realize it. 0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:24.920 So I talk to people like I think they tailor, 0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:26.560 you know what I mean, who grew up on B 0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.160 two ks. They go to the what's the toy nine? 0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:33.480 The screams, don't not the script millennium toy and stuff 0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:36.239 now and they love y'all. So it's like, the more 0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:39.320 y'all talk, the more questions people have, it almost feels 0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:41.400 like their childhood was a lie. Yeah, you know what 0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:48.320 I mean, was it? I don't know, I don't know. 0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:50.799 I'm saying. The more the more they hear y'all talk, 0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:53.440 that generation feels like their childhood was a lot. And 0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:55.719 they looked at y'all like brothers. I thought everything was 0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:58.239 all good. And I think the reason why I say 0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:01.320 that is because I think that because we grew up together, 0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:04.080 there is things to observe in that And that's the reason, 0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:07.440 that's the reason why this book is here. You know 0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:11.399 what I'm saying, Like we grew up together, we all 0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:14.680 went through similar things. You know, we all have people 0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:17.440 that you know, we're around that could have done more 0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:20.080 and could have said things. It could have did things 0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:23.120 a certain type of way. But guess what, some of 0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:29.040 them ain't being held accountable and you know, we're gonna 0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:31.279 either leave it up to the universe to handle that, 0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:34.120 you know, which always handles that, you know what I'm saying, 0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:40.080 or something's gonna happen. No, I'm just saying, but I'm saying, 0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:43.280 we see it with certain song writers. You can't get away. 0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:45.759 You can't get away for the things that you do 0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:51.239 on this planet. Okay, period. I want my generation to 0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:54.520 understand that. You know what I'm saying, Read the book, 0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:57.120 get the book. Trust me. You know what I'm saying. 0:48:57.480 --> 0:48:59.400 This is for you. Do you feel like you're opening 0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:02.680 up more? You open up another cand of warrant by 0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:06.520 putting out the doctor not doing a book? You think, nah, nah, 0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:08.600 because you know this is my story. You know what 0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:10.960 I'm saying. This is my story, and I own my story. 0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:13.279 How do you tell her to someone else? Well? Yeah, 0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:18.320 that and also it's it's great, it's not bad. It's great. 0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:21.600 You're still standing by the background dances remark or you 0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:25.520 feel bad about that? Nah? Nah? You know what? Um 0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:27.480 when I think about that, you know, I thought that 0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:29.800 was funny because I'm gonna just you know, keep it 0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:31.920 player with you. You know what I'm saying. As you've 0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:33.920 seen with the mother and my children. Like, I'm never 0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:37.040 pressed off of a woman choosing up or who she 0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:39.040 want to be with. That's not my personality, you know 0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:41.400 what I'm saying, Like, Hey, women choose you know what 0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:44.520 I'm saying. Um, But for me, that's that's not what 0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:47.800 it was about. You know what I'm saying. That's trivial 0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:50.320 in a drop, you know what I mean, in the 0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:53.920 ocean of the other things that we all have shared 0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:58.239 an experience that you know what I mean. Come on, man, 0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:01.319 that's small, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, that's 0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:04.680 more funny to me. That's another thing that's just like that. 0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:06.960 Don't what does that have to do with anything? Bro? 0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:09.840 You know what I mean? What's up? Man? You know, 0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:13.200 and you think all communication is done like because God forbid. 0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:14.840 We live in a real crazy world. You see the 0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:17.200 things that's happening to people. If something was to happen 0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:20.640 to one of them, wouldn't you feel some sort of way? Yeah? Man, 0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:22.640 I don't want nothing to happen to nobody. You know 0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:25.319 what I'm saying. I wish everybody, well, man, I don't 0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:27.840 want I don't wish no ill nobody. You know what 0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:31.200 I'm saying, um, and I wish them well, man, you 0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:33.920 know what I mean, Like, I really hope that they 0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:37.640 see through this experience and they take a little bit 0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:40.640 more accountability, you know what I mean, moving forward, And 0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:44.840 I like, I hope that they, you know, um, do 0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:46.640 good things for that life. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:50.080 I don't wish nobody bad, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:51.920 what does Marcus used to say about all of this? 0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:54.200 I don't know. I don't speak to him. You don't 0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:59.359 speak I know that I haven't spoke to him so long, 0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:00.800 you know. I mean, that was your real that's not 0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:05.040 your real brother. No, I'm the eldest and you funny 0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:12.080 Charlot Mane because you're looking at you like that. Brothers Yes, 0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:20.279 I always yeah, No, Ryan, Nah, that's my real brother. Okay, 0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:23.960 I'm the oldest. Yeah. And what does she just asked 0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:25.640 me to ask you? What does watermelon have to do 0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:29.560 with everything? Ok? Do you like water guys? Do you 0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:34.160 like watermelon? Yes? Watermelon is one of the best, very healthy. Yes, 0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:37.520 good for your heart, good for your skin. Okay, thank you? Yes, 0:51:37.840 --> 0:51:39.880 and see so and that's the window. And that's the 0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:42.000 window that people just don't want to walk through because 0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:44.560 they want to just stay at the you know, sexual 0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.319 aspect of it. You know what I mean. Because good 0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:49.480 things are like sex, you know what I'm saying, And 0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:51.680 that's why we're all addicted to it, you know what 0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:54.720 I'm saying. So when you mix the fruit with the sex, 0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:57.640 you know what I'm saying, that's another level. You might 0:51:57.719 --> 0:51:59.520 want to try that, you know what I'm saying. Try 0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:01.880 Watermel and Taylor. I'm telling you might want to try that. 0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:03.840 You want to might just want to start by kissing 0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:07.799 somebody with somebody that you love, well, watermelon, and see 0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:09.960 how you feel. It's interesting. They give you Flight four. 0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:11.880 But when Beyonce, you just randomly said it in the 0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:17.600 song nobody Can It's randomly watermelon, you just know being 0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:22.640 Oh say it? Oh do it? It's a problem. All right? Well, 0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:27.520 y usually be like, well, where's the new record? But 0:52:27.560 --> 0:52:29.120 you ain't got a record for us today? Yes, yes, 0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:32.640 I do, Okay, okay, okay, what's what's this record? Let's 0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:36.759 go introduce it? Oh wait a minute, I'm sorry, my bad. 0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:40.240 Hold on, I got too excited. No, we got the album. 0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:43.399 It's ready, it's in the clip. We can't get a record. Yeah, 0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:45.480 we could get a record syndicated on a hundred and 0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:50.280 thirty plus markets everybody. That's okay, Okay, we should probably 0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:52.160 we should probably we should probably send it to y'all 0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:54.920 so we could see you know what I mean, because honestly, 0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:57.520 I have to salute you if you've always been a supporter, 0:52:57.680 --> 0:53:00.480 you've always liked and enjoyed my music and reported me, 0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:02.880 you know what I mean? So this, um, this new 0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:05.360 album is new project Full Circle. Man, I want I 0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:07.239 want to definitely say it to you first that it's 0:53:07.239 --> 0:53:09.960 called Full Circle. It's called Full Circle. Okay, Yeah, a 0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:12.960 lot of features you come. You see where I'm going 0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:17.520 with this. Yeah, it's prophetic. Okay, when's it gonna It's 0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:20.120 coming out for years old? Yes, all right, yes, okay, 0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:22.120 all right, Well it's the Breakfast Club is a Mario 0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:22.799 face