1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, some upcoming live shows that I Matt want 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: to tell you about. November at the Bellhouse I Don't 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Think So Honey Live in New York. Then December five 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: another I Don't Think So Honey Live, this time hosted 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: by Joe Kim Booster and myself December five at the 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Regent in Downtown l A. And please come out to 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: my Christmas show have you heard of? Christmas? At the 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: Duplex in New York on December eleventh, December, and December two, 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: doing that show three times, some special guests, including musical 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: director the one and only Henry Kapersky. So we'll see 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: you at our upcoming live shows, folks, We cannot wait. Hello, 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: Tickets are on sale for all these events right now. 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: Look may oh, I see you? Why why? And look 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness? Something just 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: where Literally every single one of our hundred plus episodes, 16 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: we started the episode the same way. It goes three 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: to one, we say dig dong. He went three to one, 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: and I said to one, I forgot our sign him. 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: But I kind of was into it. I was I 20 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: liked the little spice, you like the spontaneity, honey. But 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: can I tell you something. Tell me this girl in 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: high school, Leilanie, I forgot her last name. She's very sweet. 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: But one time she posted on my MySpace, but when 24 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: I love your spontaneity, spy, oh my god, the word 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: for me, because now I think the word is actually spontaneity. 26 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: Correct someone, I'll be like, it's actually spotanuity, and then 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: they're like, no, it's not I love sponty. Actually, no, 28 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: it's the stupidest word. Number nine. It's spontanuity. I'm not 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: repeating that. We have to, ok, it is, it's spontaneity. 30 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: And also it's kind of like I declare that this 31 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: is not a word, but you say it's a word tragical, tragical. 32 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: It is tragic. It's not tragical. I think tragical is 33 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: a word. Look it up at one time, talk about 34 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: this tragedy and she was like, it's so tragical, it's 35 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: so tragical, butting it like she's like it's tragical, and 36 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: like it really was tragic. But the fact that she 37 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: kept calling it tragical, I was like, you're making no. No, 38 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: it's a great way to add levity to like a 39 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: funeral totally, you know, everybody on the same page. And 40 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: that's saying a word wrong. Who is this talking? I 41 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: came from nowhere, but I hear to say certain comments 42 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: about a word. You say, Oh my god, this poet, 43 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: this rhythmical girl. And I'd also like to add to Leilani, 44 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: I hope she listening and correcting. She has been using 45 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: that word without correction until this episode of Hold On, 46 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: Who is this? Who is this? This is? She's truly 47 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: like the coolest, the coolest, one of the coolest stars, 48 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: one of the coolest stars in the in the galaxy, 49 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: and and many cool stars in the galaxy. Yeah wait, 50 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: why are you talking about the other cool stars? We 51 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: see you out there, We're not talking about you for 52 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 1: the net nine. We love her so much. Check out 53 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: her Netflix special Right now, the comedy line up our 54 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: space is really blowing up, really blowing up the quarter 55 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: hour space. I don't want to do stand up for 56 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: longer than fifteen minutes. I agree, Yes, you gotta be honest. 57 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to see it for minutes. Literally, give 58 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: me seven minutes in a year. I'm killing you know. 59 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make my seven minutes count. It's gonna be 60 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: the eighth hour space. That's gonna be huge. Writer for 61 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: a starch party, right for search starger for a good show, 62 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: and there you go. I and we A little Birdie 63 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: told us the scuttle about it is the smallest bird 64 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: was so crazy small. I was like, what are you 65 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: doing here? So small? See it? And you guys were like, 66 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: is that a bird? I think it's a fly, but 67 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: we look closer it was. It was a bird. A 68 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: little Bertie told us that she wrote the huge wedding 69 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: episode in the upcoming season. Um, and she's the host 70 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: of I got an acting on it too. Oh really yeah? 71 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: And there it involves stunts and I'm so it involved stunts. Yes, 72 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: we have to talk about stunt people, just as I 73 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: loved I have like really good I just had one 74 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: good moment with a lady named Mary Alby who taught 75 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: me a lot of lessons and she was a stunt person. 76 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: Her last name was teased to the Mary Alby. See 77 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: how action packed this episode of the first She's she's 78 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: an Albie, She's she's a granddaughter, grand daughter. Um and 79 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: my sexy podcast, We're so happy And also showing development 80 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: with Fox with the one and only writing a sitcom 81 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm writing. We love her so much and uh, we 82 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: love Wolfie, we love life. I'm a daddy type mom. 83 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: Daddy type mom. Welcome our guest. Hell, hello everybody. It's 84 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: nice to be here. I feel that I'm supported if 85 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: I do something like this in this type of support. 86 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: You know why we support it is because everyone in 87 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: this room, including Emma, is part of the lgbt Q 88 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: plus communities, Honey, part of the lgbt Q plus community, 89 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: and it is a community in what you choose your 90 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: own family. We have our first queer hot producer. It's 91 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: it's fabulous. You're for did you kick someone out for somebody? Was? 92 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: He has? He has left on? But I had a 93 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: way to say someone died, someone died, but then happen 94 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: then Emma. We were left with in very capable hands 95 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: with Emma, so we're so excited to have her. Anyway, 96 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: everyone carried me up the stairs for me. Yeah, because 97 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: why couldn't walk a by yourself? I fainted, you know, 98 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: I faint before a podcast. God, this is like I 99 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: was like walking over here and thinking should I say it? 100 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: Because it makes me if I don't say it. But 101 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: there were good celebs at the party. Should I say, 102 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: I don't know who who are they? Okay, just like 103 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,559 Speaker 1: casually and by the way, I wasn't like I wasn't 104 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: thinking about it. But um, obviously everyone from Search Party, 105 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: so Alia John Reynolds, who's going to shoot a thing 106 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: with Jessica Williams obviously to England for six months to 107 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: shoot it, six months in England, six months in England, 108 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: and then Jessica is going to shoot another movie after 109 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: that in English. She's just in England forever. Jessica is, 110 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: She's totally queen. But then Ellen Page casually the best 111 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: friend that she does. Yes, um, but I didn't talk 112 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: to everybody but anyway, but then and then I met 113 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: a devil with a full red face, and I was like, 114 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: it's so wild that I'll never know what you look 115 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: like in real life. That person was Tessa Thompson. Yes, 116 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: I love that she just like had Also was that 117 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: I got a good fucking weird, a good weird Halloween costume. 118 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: That person was Thompson. That person was Tessa Thompson. Who else? 119 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: I mean probably there was like directors speaking in accents. 120 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: It was just like amazing, I just like, can I 121 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: tell you what my instinct was? That who should be 122 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: at the party. I don't know why I think this 123 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: person is super cool lately, but I know they're in Brooklyn, 124 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: and I felt like maybe they could have been at 125 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: this party. Fucking Anne Hathaway. I was like, I bet 126 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: Anne Hathaway was at the party. Wasn't Is Anne Hathaway's 127 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: brother is still around New York doing Mike's because when 128 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: I was here, brother, I don't he wasn't out when 129 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: I saw him. There's one gay brother and then maybe 130 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: there's another comedy brother. There was a brother that was 131 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: doing Mike's and he would casually say my sister and 132 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: his last name was Hathaway, and everybody knew that his 133 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: sister was Anne Hathaway. And it was like the biggest 134 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: uphill battle for him to talk about literally anything other 135 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: than it's just like all I want to know. I 136 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: sometimes think about that. It's like the siblings and the 137 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: siblings people, It's like, how do you get around, especially 138 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: when your name is something like Hathaway, And I would 139 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: imagine that he resembles her. If you could pick one 140 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: person to be at the party, who great questions with 141 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: the snakes being zero because it's a party in the 142 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: past that you were not we were supposed to be there, 143 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: and I think there's honestly, over the past twenty four hours, 144 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: there's been tons of like personal failings. We failed to 145 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: make it to the party, Charles failed to make it 146 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: to this podcast. I was very late to the studio 147 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: as well. Um. If I had to pick one person, um, 148 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: oh my god, it would have been Ellen Burston. I want. 149 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: I wanted Ellen Burston to be I wouldn't. I would 150 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: have loved Monica Lewinsky was at the party, hold her 151 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: hand ful her in the eyes and say I am 152 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: apologizing on behalf of this entire nation. I hope at 153 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: least three people say that to her every day. I think, 154 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: and I wonder, what was it was it this year 155 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: that people shifted when it was? It was it was 156 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: around the election, it was around people have been done? 157 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: Shifted about Monica Lewinsky. I think because I think we all, 158 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: like in the past three or four years, like it 159 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: was felt bad. It was pre me too, even where 160 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh ship, like we did her wrong. 161 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: Her TEDtalk was ted talk talk. I didn't, but I 162 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: feel like I know what she said and I like it. 163 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: There it was about like online bullying and she considers 164 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: herself the first virally bullied person. But she may be 165 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: correct about um okay, we're racing Joan of Arc. There 166 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: was no incident that there was. There was, there was. 167 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: She was viral. She was virally bullied. She was virally bullied. 168 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: They someone gave her a virus. I think I think 169 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: she No, you're right, I think Monica Lensky is maybe 170 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: that's the first person, but there I feel like she is. 171 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: She is erasing some other things. I feel like if 172 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: you would have needed to do back in the day. Look, 173 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: I think Leilanni, Leilanie was just like cute, half Asian, 174 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: half white, like whatever. Genetically she's cute. She's making that 175 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: name good and kid Leilani. I feel like, I feel 176 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: like Leilani is yeah, some like R and B. Leilani 177 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: is something you name your kid because you think I'm 178 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: going to give them an interesting name and oops, you 179 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: gave them like the most superior, like ridiculous name. No, no, 180 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: thanks to Leila. I mean it probably means something cool 181 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: in the culture. You're like drunken, kidding, roisteds and it's 182 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: nor is it when the chopstick at your head, it 183 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: means it means religious flower. It means religious religious flower. 184 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: Than I'm back to your side. I'm understanding away from Lei. 185 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: LEI gives me khlua. Do you think that saying blessing 186 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: it gives me? It gives me, Like Leilani, it's like 187 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: it's like you know, I don't know, it's it's a bottle. 188 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: What are you saying about blessing? Oh? I want to 189 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: say blest and blessing, but I don't want anyone to 190 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: think I'm religious. To come for you, that's my I 191 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: think this is a struggle. It's a true struggle because 192 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: there's nothing that replaces it. How do we d how 193 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: do we de associate, dissociate? Yeah, you're gonna come from 194 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: miss le Lani about spontaneity and you're talking about how 195 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: how do we dissociate? I have the mechanism, bitch to 196 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: direct you are a bit. How do we dissociate like 197 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: religious words from religion? I think we I think that 198 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: I want to be able to say alms without like 199 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: any sort of with that, like donations, like give albums. 200 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: I want to be able to say, like use that 201 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: in everyday conversation with that evoking religious immestry. I agree. 202 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: I think that I just want to collect some alms 203 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: without being pinned as a Christian. Yeah. Absolutely. I also 204 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: think remember the Christian Aguilera song. Yes, I think we 205 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: can't say that anymore about or else the right just right. 206 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: I just feel like hashtag blast has now become more 207 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: associated with the millennial culture, and like is the is 208 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: like the way to disassociate, But then you're like, you know, 209 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: part of something that's so yesterday. Wait, but it's true. 210 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: Like whenever someone has receives an award and they say 211 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm so blest, I look around the room and people 212 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: roll their eyes and I'm like, maybe they just couldn't 213 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: find the non religious words, but it is like there's 214 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: nothing like truly when I hold my little baby son, 215 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: when I'm like under the big tree in our backyard, 216 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: I say, but I also think, maybe maybe it's not bad, 217 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: Maybe that's not that. Maybe then the blessing that it 218 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: is obviously attached to something. But then let's just maybe 219 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: shift God into the universe, like you know, like that 220 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: do that thing. It's like, you know, it's crystals, it's love, 221 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: it's trees, it could be any diverse are I think 222 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: that people sometimes choose to say, um, the universe gave 223 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: me this instead of like thank God. And also I 224 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: feel like it's all cookie cookie, but there there is 225 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: some like linguistic thing where it's like you have the word, 226 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: you have the concept, and it doesn't mean something. It 227 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: doesn't sound cookie, but it's still means that same thing 228 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: where it's right. But when you say I think the universe, 229 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 1: you are thinking quote unquote god, I think the I 230 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: think the world is fun, right, I think the world. 231 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: I think the world. I've got a good replacement for 232 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: an awkward thing that you can't. You can't say the 233 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: R word. You can't be like right, you can't do that. 234 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: You'd replacement. My father's Pakistani said, it's a replacement. It's lulu. 235 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god. What doesn't mean literally, it's like it's 236 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 1: it doesn't. I don't think that. It doesn't. It just 237 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: means like someone who's episode. It wasn't. It was too 238 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: soon to bring her back, but she was giving us kalua. 239 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: When a girl gives you klua, you invite her back 240 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: in the room. There was a character named Klua and Bridesmaids, 241 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: and I thought it was the funniest name the other girl. 242 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: That word that Christen Rigg worked out. They were like, 243 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: she was like, look at Kalua, look like that girl. 244 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: Is my favorite thing to do in writing a script 245 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: is give wicked name names. Yeah, just like for no 246 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: reason not explained, it's just is the Dora That's who 247 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: it is. Klue was also the name of Rachel Dratch's 248 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: uh character in The America's Next Top Model Scotch That 249 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: James Anderson and James Anderson is the master of names. 250 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: Tia Mornings, Tia mo Chang. I love Tia morning Morning, truly, 251 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's very dumber. It's fund fun 252 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: of the proud names. It was Dora that just love 253 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: that love that who came up with Wolfie um Seana 254 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: had a dream eight years ago and woke up and she's, 255 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, like hyper mystical lady, and uh she was like, 256 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: our kid's name is gonna be Wolfie Wolfe. Yeah. And 257 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: I also had been like meditating on that name since 258 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: I was young because I always had a crush on 259 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: Jennifer love Hewett. But then on Party of Five, Scott 260 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: Wolf would have sex with her, So I did the 261 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: thing I don't did you guys do that where you 262 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: like have a crush on the guy that's having sex 263 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: the girl. So I was like, I love Scott Wolf 264 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: on his kissinger to kiss him. Scott Wolf actually is 265 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: so hot though, and we've forgotten. I bumped into him 266 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: in an airport and you were like, I used to 267 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: rub it fusedly to you. So I just didn't not 268 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: touch myself because that's head. I was busy. But that 269 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: about you with the kids that boobs love. I would 270 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: really just picture her hugging out. I would have fantasies 271 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: off like we would go to Cancun, the specific one 272 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: fantasy that I would just be like and play, just 273 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: play on the VHS and the ribbons would turn and 274 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: we would be laying by the pool, and you know, 275 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: people would come and recognize her and talk to her, 276 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: but we would not have time for them. Boys would 277 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: hit on us, but we would be too busy with 278 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: our friendship. And was still still patonic at this point. Yeah, 279 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: still I was in my mind. I was like, it 280 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: just would be the friendship of a lifetime, but down 281 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: to like her holding. I would picture her holding me 282 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: in the way her breasts would feel against my body, 283 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: and I was just like we what be buddies. I 284 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: used to do the same sometimes I would. It's true, 285 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: like especially at that age when you're at that young 286 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: age where you're like, you don't get to just I mean, 287 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: you can't just go out and be a little hole 288 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: like like I am. Often now, like the touch of 289 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: another was just such a rare thing, so I would 290 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: just remember I would hug my male friends and be 291 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: like another touch of another. God, that's another good title. Yeah, 292 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: the touch of another should just be there. Should just 293 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: be gay schools right like schools were like schools were 294 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: just queer. It's it's it's all queer schools where culturally 295 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: it's fine to just like everyone at the everyone at 296 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: the dance. There would be so much this. You're saying 297 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: you want segregation a little bit, Yeah, I want. I 298 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: want sexual segregation, separate but equal, like I think. I 299 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: think when it comes to queer folks, it should be 300 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: like because because isn't this the thing where our growth 301 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: is our at least are my sexual growth is stunted? 302 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: And it's maybe it's what you're saying where it's like 303 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: if you just had that access at an earlier age, 304 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: you feel like you're you're like playing out high school leves, 305 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: like just maybe in a way, yeah, but also just 306 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: you're getting You're getting it's to scale, it's to like 307 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: it's separate but equal. It's like you're, well, I don't, 308 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, if your kid is gay, do 309 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: you want them to go to a school of only 310 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: gay people? Because I think diversity make it like the 311 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: key to there. You go, Okay, mine, Fine, I'm just 312 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: I'm I'm having this little thought experiment in my head 313 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: about like what that would look like. Get this though, 314 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: what it is different nowadays? Because my friend is a 315 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: middle school health teacher. She texted me the other day 316 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: and she said that her one of her students, like Loki, 317 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: came out to her in a project um, and she 318 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: went to go speak to his counselor, and the counselor 319 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's good that he's saying that, because 320 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: like he wasn't there like last year when apparently he 321 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: brought up some things about potentially maybe thinking about self 322 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: harm and things like that. So I think that, But 323 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: I feel like seventh grade is fucking early, yeah, because 324 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: even kids that like I will eventually identify as straight 325 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: don't really know what they're the issue or like the 326 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: one of the big things about realizing your gay is 327 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: like we all obviously you everybody listening to this knows this, 328 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: but like everything's fluid, we all land somewhere and everybody 329 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: is learning that, and people are learning, like straight identifying 330 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: people are learning what they like in a partner way 331 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: late too, because we're all marketed these weird ass like 332 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: it's a barbie, it's a can, it's a lumberjack, and man, 333 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: it's a thing, a little doodle, it's the perfect little guy, 334 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: frosty tips, little ab then the little little It's like 335 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: you know these like these like catchphrase things that you 336 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: like see that you're like, that's the way I will do. 337 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: Like even just the way I placed myself as Scott 338 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: Wolf to love Jennifer Love Hewitt. It's like all just 339 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: like these binary it's pretty hurts. It's very pretty hurts, 340 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: um pretty hirs even like fucking Matt was just lamenting 341 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: Anthony popping up on his feet. It's like, well, that 342 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: is something that is being fed to you. And Antony 343 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: popped up on my feet. And every time Anthony from 344 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: Gray pops out on my feet, I literally I get 345 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: so angry at my because I'm like, stop it, Like 346 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: it's just like every time it gets me. He's so 347 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: fucking everything Canadians is Canadian. Yeah, Canadian. We didn't talk 348 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: about this in Montreal, Montreal. You're Toronto and Montreal. Oh yeah, 349 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: I was just in Toronto and it was fun as fun. 350 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: Toronto is such a good I mean, that's where we're 351 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: gonna run away to if the things happened, that's okay, 352 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: but we don't run away. We'll try to make everything 353 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: better obvious, like we have to run away. I thought 354 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: about Toronto as a place to run away. I mean, 355 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: would wait till you see Vancouver. Baby, We're going to 356 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: Vancouver next. Like, don't you think that Toronto is where 357 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: you live? Where where I live? I actually see myself 358 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 1: more in Montreal. Toronto feels a little too Midwest, right, 359 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not I'm not saying that, Jorda. I'm 360 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: not saying that it is. I'm not saying that in 361 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: a negative way. I'm saying like, actually, no, Toronto is 362 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: actually great because Niagara Falls is right there. She's putting 363 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: on I will do the jingles and no, wait, I 364 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: don't I think I'm more I'm just I mean, everybody 365 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: loves their hometown. That's that's what it is. Some people 366 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: it's a spectrum. You fall into love with Montreal. I 367 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: already told you this in Montreal, and I don't want 368 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: to talk about it, but I do that. I like, 369 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: my first girlfriend was in Montreal from yeah, and I 370 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: would like take a Greyhound from Toronto to Montreal. No 371 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: one would know. I would be secretly gay in Montreal 372 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: and then hoop ear rings back in Toronto. Earrings carried 373 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: into the first zone of me being gay. I was 374 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: like wearing mini skirts, hoop ear rings and had butcher 375 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: girlfriend and something didn't feel right. But your girlfriend, but 376 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: your girlfriend. Yeah, Like I was in the back of 377 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: the motorcycle. I just want to drive it. I want 378 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: to hold the bars, not a waste bars. Please please 379 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: give me the bars. Okay, you guys, this is Matt 380 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: and I had to get on here and they didn't. 381 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: They're not even, they're not even. There's no gun to 382 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: my head right now. I just had to get on 383 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: here and tell you that I am so obsessed with 384 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: everything I just got from ever Lane. You guys, I'm 385 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: actually wearing right now. Emma, the producer can see me 386 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: in my rugby shirt that I'm wearing. It's a dark 387 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: olive and white striped shirt. I am obsessed the denim 388 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: jeans that I got. I have these like skinny like 389 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: blue jeans on right now. It's just this. They nailed it. 390 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 1: And my favorite item of clothing I got from them 391 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: is this like dark denim jacket. You have to go 392 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: to ever Lane and you have to shop there because 393 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: all this stuff is truly amazing. And also ever Lane 394 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: only makes premium essentials using the finest materials without traditional markups, 395 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: and they tell you they're real, actual costs, so you 396 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: know you're never over paying. Every Lane wants you to 397 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: know what you're paying for and why they're radically transparent 398 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: about every step in their process, for the materials they use, 399 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: to the ethical factories they work with, and because every 400 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: Lane cells directly to you, their prices are thirty lower 401 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: than traditional retailers. Every Lane's clothes look better, cost less, 402 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: and less longer. Essentials like their cotton crew T shirt 403 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: or exactly what they should be. They're simple, they're stylish, 404 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: and they're made from quality materials. Now, I want to 405 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: tell you about some stuff that I got. Um the 406 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: Kashmere Crew. Oh my god, I got this like black 407 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: Kashmere sweater. It's just feels so good on me. The 408 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: Twill Weekender bag I got with a matching backpack. I 409 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: got like in a dark gray um with like a 410 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: black leather. Oh my god. I'm truly so excited. I'm 411 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: wearing the clothes right now. And I texted Bowen. I 412 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: was like, did you get your stuff from ever Lane 413 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: And He's like, oh my god, not yet, but we 414 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: were very gagged when it came. It came in such 415 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: a nice box too. It was also lay it out. 416 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm truly truly upset that it's so cold in New 417 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: York right now, because all I want to do is 418 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: wear this denim jacket. I'm really obsessed with that. I've 419 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: never had a denim jacket, you guys, and so now 420 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: I have one. Anyway, I'm excited, and you can be 421 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: excited too if you go to everline dot com slash 422 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 1: ding dong and plus you get free shipping on your 423 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: first order. That's everline dot com Forward slash ding Dong. 424 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: Everline dot com Forward slash ding Dong. But I wanted 425 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: to before we run too far away from Wolfie tell 426 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: you this amazing magic thing, which is that. Um, so 427 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: she had this dream eight years ago. Um, our kid's 428 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: name is Wolfe. When we we didn't know how we 429 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: were going to make our kid. We were just like 430 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: sort of scoping things out, asking questions about adoption and 431 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: asking questions about our friends that conceived and um, Shanna 432 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: gets sick in uh Saylita Mexico. When we're on vacation, 433 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: I take a surf lesson and my instructor is this 434 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: gorgeous angel that like if I was casting the mail 435 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: me in the movie. Oh my God, Jeffrey self told 436 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: us about this. It's and it was just in So 437 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: I met him. We drank mes cow after started chatting. 438 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: His dad as a police chief, his mom is a chemist. 439 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: He is an amazing just like chill soul picks up 440 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: like a piece of garbage casually on the beach, keeps walking. 441 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: I'm just like I want like, I'm just like it 442 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: was him yearning for that, and I knew it was him, 443 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: And then I asked Shanna. Shawna is like, you're crazy. 444 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: She meets him in a second, She's like, you can 445 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: ask him. And then so I take another lesson and 446 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: I asked him in the water, and in the water 447 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: I see as we're going out for the first time, 448 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: on his back is a tattoo of a wolf shut 449 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: up and arms, arms, the crop of the wolf, the 450 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: like face of the wolf, and the style is exactly 451 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: the same as a year before. Same time. We're taking 452 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: a vacation in Palm Springs and our friends happened to 453 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: be there. We do like a joke Christmas present exchange 454 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: and they give us a plate that has a wolf 455 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: on it. They know nothing about this, like wolf plan um. 456 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: And in the corner it says mom, like someone had 457 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: drawn it for their mom. Wow, that's fucking crazy. Same crop. Yeah, 458 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: oh my god. Wow. Okay, so then you got to 459 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: take a picture just to have it on the ready 460 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: of the plate. The thing the tattooed. You need to 461 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: put it a little bit, get a trip to because honestly, 462 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: like that is that's like some ship. And today I'm 463 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: getting a tattoo of a wolf. That's universal tattoo. I'm 464 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: getting These are fake tattoos from last night. I was 465 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: dressed up Ashana. But I'm getting a tattoo right here. 466 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: It'll be a wolf a girl. And then on top 467 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: a little owl. It's a big tattoo. I'm very nervous, 468 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: but I'm playing it cool. Yeah. Yeah, It's like you 469 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: got to be like when people are like, aren't you 470 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: nervous to get on stage in front of all those people, 471 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: It's like, no, bitch. But then you're like, you know, 472 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: you look through your set list of course, and then 473 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: but yeah, okay, so you ask it riff, just riff. 474 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: You you asked him for his spurt? What's his reaction? Beautiful? 475 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: It's just like all meant to be, Like it's in 476 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: the water and it's I mean, it's felt the same 477 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: way like when I saw Shanna and I knew that 478 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: she was important in my life, and you know, like 479 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: it's just like you see someone and you're like, this 480 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: is the stakes could not be higher. You know, It's 481 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: like this is like and and meet, Like when you 482 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: want to meet someone and you want to come off 483 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: as or like, you know, you wanna come off as chill, 484 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: but what you're asking or what you want is so 485 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: big chill, so not chill, my daddy. Surfing lessons are 486 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: also the most fraud okay, but I guess was it 487 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: one on one? It was one on one. Yeah, because 488 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: what I pictured was like blue crush, like Michelle Rodriguez 489 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: will be like on the waves together, just like high five, 490 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: and it'll be like, you know, tip your nose up 491 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: and I'll be like, I can't hear you over the whip. 492 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: But what it is is it's a lot of like 493 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: sit standing in the water. You're laying on top of 494 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: the board. He's holding the nose of the board and 495 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: looking at the ocean and looking into your eyes and 496 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: waiting to like release you into the right wave at 497 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: the right time. And it's very much like bringing up 498 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: this like big thing out of nowhere. You're waiting for 499 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: like the right conversational energy to be like and this 500 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: is me. I'm getting up on the board of what 501 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm asking you, you know. So I said, um, would 502 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: you I said, I've I mean, I want to ask 503 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: you something. And I don't feel any pressure. This is 504 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: maybe going to be a strange thing. And I've never 505 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: asked anyone this before but you. But you know, like 506 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: my wife and I would like to have a baby, 507 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: and we were wondering if you would be interested in 508 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: helping us. Wow, And he looked at me and he 509 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: smiled and he was like, that sounds interesting. He's like, 510 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 1: I don't know how that works, but you guys are 511 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: a beautiful couple, and if I can help you, then 512 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: that sounds interesting. So then I just like took the 513 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: next wave in and ran up to Shanna. I was like, 514 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, though, that was like I ran up 515 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: to Yeah. I ran up to Shanna, told her, ran back, 516 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: and you know, like did a couple more waves. It 517 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: was just like, you know, like in my mind putting 518 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: together prototypes of like how to get the jis inside Shanna. 519 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: I also knew nothing about ovulation. I knew nothing about 520 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: the process. So I was just like running to bodegas 521 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: and saw you leader like emptying tampons, like trying to 522 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: like will the applicator work, or like taking a dish 523 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: glove and like cutting the thumb that was my best 524 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: prototype and then duct taping it and then cutting a hole. 525 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: I just I didn't know Also, how little sperm came 526 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 1: out of it pain. I thought like I'd be piping 527 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: icing into Sean, just like how did it work. The 528 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: way that it actually did work was no, we did 529 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: it ourselves. And this is like I want to talk 530 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: about it all the time. Because I want people to know, like, um, 531 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: that you can do you can try this. I know 532 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: that like no one is entitled to like a specific 533 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: birth path it's gay or straight. It's like you just 534 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: sort of like wiggle into whatever door opens. But um, 535 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: but basically we just calculated Shaanna's apulations. Went back to Mexico. Um, 536 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: and he came into a sterile cup Shanna made like 537 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: an altar in our airbnb. He so he came into 538 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: the No, that wasn't the order. He came into the cup. 539 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: Shawna makes the everyone knows um and then he leaves. 540 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: I put it into a sterile syringe like needle without 541 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: a needle. Put that in my arm under my arm pit. Um, 542 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: and so it stays warm. Shanna and I made love, yea. 543 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: I put the sperm inside of her, so orgasm to 544 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: get warm and wet inside, and then sperm and then 545 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: orgasm again to wow for good luck because I'm all 546 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: under pressure. Yeah, that's what I prefer it exploding around me. Um, 547 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: and then you can and the blessings game and the 548 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: Lord left it, and the and the Lord was like 549 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: and the Lord and the universe and the like. We 550 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: all agree right on except the recipe. That's amazing. And 551 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: then the first time we did that, the that's you know, 552 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: she got pregnant, amazing, gorgeous. It was truly gorgeous, and 553 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: we got to like we when we went back, we 554 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: got to spend a lot of time with him around. Yeah, 555 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: he's actually coming to visit in a few weeks with 556 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: his girlfriend who he met in the water, like weeks 557 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: after we met him. Amazing, And so has he met Wolf? 558 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: He is not, but we've faced time. Actually his mom 559 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: is flying to So what's his relation What do you 560 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: feel like his relationship is to I think it's like 561 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: he's his biological father, but he's not his parental father. 562 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: Of course, I feel like more of the parental father Wolf. 563 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: He's gonna call me baba love or do for that 564 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: gorgeous la lu baba sounds so cute. Um. Then yeah, 565 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: and and like you know, we'll just like see what 566 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: the flow of the ocean is in terms of like 567 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: there's no pressure on him to be anything, but he 568 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: definitely I think like just the way the puzzle pieces 569 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: fit together is kind of perfect where he wants he 570 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: wants to be around, and that's perfect for the way 571 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: we want wolfie, you know, to understand this amazing story 572 00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: and how like how intentional and how magic and from 573 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: the ocean he is it really? And you know, the 574 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: crazy thing is the day that I asked him, because 575 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: after Sean, I was like, you can ask him. It 576 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: wasn't like it's on. It was like, Okay, this is 577 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: still a crazy thing, Like I'm just still in crazy town. 578 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: Like we had the chances of someone being super receptive 579 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: to this wild kind of like proposition is it's not 580 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: even that it's smaller bigots that you have no way 581 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,239 Speaker 1: of knowing. Yeah. So so so we had like one 582 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: last day and we were supposed to go out on 583 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: this deep sea fishing trip and so that would have 584 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: kind of like taken our day and the chances of 585 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: bumping into him. Anyways, the trip got canceled because the 586 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,239 Speaker 1: ocean was too rocky, and so we as we were 587 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: walking back from that canceled boat trip on this like 588 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: only time that we could lock this in, he was 589 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: walking out to teach a lesson and I was like, 590 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: can I take one after? That's that's amazing? Yeah, tell 591 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: the story all the time. Yeah, I want to write 592 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: a movie about it. You really should or it sounds 593 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: like at least like maybe even like a limited serious 594 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: television because you know they were like episode honest book 595 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: or not to like raw graphic novel, graphic novel, not 596 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: to draw the straight line. But it feels like that 597 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: was also fully in Diabolo's wheelhouse to this kind of story. 598 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, so cool, yeah cool, yeah, 599 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah, I mean totally she does these like 600 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: honest yeah real, yeah, yeah, like I always refer to. 601 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: Did we talk about Diablo on the podcast? We briefly 602 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: talked about her before we got record, but we did. 603 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: We just spoke about it, but we haven't talked about her, 604 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: but we were saying that, like it's true, she really 605 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,959 Speaker 1: tully is what I haven't seen. And you were talking 606 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: about how it's so great to like beble to see 607 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: this movie. That really yeah, like just that shot it 608 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: was in the preview, but the shot of the breast 609 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: milk bag like just slowly falling. It's like just like 610 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: a thing that means so much to an audience too. 611 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: That is just like it's wild that I mean, like 612 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: gay stories, stories about women. It is so exciting for 613 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: us right now because we're at like just this forefront. Actually, 614 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: when I saw you guys in Montreal and you were 615 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: having so much fun, um, it was like just this 616 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: heart like this, like you know, it's just amazing and 617 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: wild to think, but it is kind of the we're 618 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: at the forefront of like just being able to like 619 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: celebrate and be received in that way and not be 620 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: like pigeonholed into a thing, but just like you know, 621 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: like not be having to be conscious of how gay 622 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: or not gay you are. I think I think now 623 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: whenever I notice how gay I am, I'm like, oh, 624 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: that's weird. Whereas I used to notice how gay was 625 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: all the time. Like I used to I used to 626 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: feel other and the verdict around it was I'm being 627 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: so gay fun. But now it's like yeah, now it's 628 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: like it's honestly, it's cool too for that to be 629 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: the thing that people like about what you do, know 630 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, Well, just that you're just intrinsically 631 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: laying in your truth is nice because I think. I 632 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: mean when when I was younger too, I started stand 633 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: up when I was sixteen, and there was this it 634 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: was more about race, but it was the exact same 635 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: thing of like being conscious of like how brown am 636 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: I being? And what you know, like how much race 637 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: stuff am I doing? And it's just like you you 638 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: get older, wiser and develop as an artist and you realize, like, oh, 639 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: all of that ship, none of that ship mattered at all. 640 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: It was always just like how me am I being? 641 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: How honest about what I actually want to be talking 642 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: about on stage? That's like all a for me, Like 643 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: I would rather just I would rather watch anyone just 644 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: talk about truthfully what they feel on stage. Then And 645 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: so in Montreal, the thing I don't know, They're not 646 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: to name any names or anything, but like there is 647 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: just like it because of the way things worked, Like 648 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: even when I started stand up there, it was just 649 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: inescapable that gay acts would have to There's just like 650 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: a pain. There was like a pain that was there 651 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: that is just like I feel like not, it's like 652 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: it's still there, you guys, as we are here in 653 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: this like new era where it's like it's really fun. Yeah, 654 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: it feels like it only just happened over the past 655 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: three or four years. Yeah, And that's something I owed 656 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: Monica Lewinsky. I was gonna say that was what I 657 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 1: was like, this is a queer momentum. But what what's 658 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: interesting about it though, is it's like I always tell people, like, 659 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: it's crazy how much has changed in a short period 660 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: of time, because if you even go back like five years, 661 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: six years, like which doesn't seem too long ago, but 662 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: so much sh it has changed, Like I really feel like, 663 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: and we talked about about this a lot with Mateo 664 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: actually when he did our show, Like how Mateo had 665 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: like a little relationship with Joel because they never got 666 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: to see each other because they never were booked on 667 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: the same shows, you know what I mean, just the 668 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: one of and people would never yeah, and just like, um, 669 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: how that's sort of change a little bit over the past. 670 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: Like now when I see a bill, I'm like, I'm 671 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: so embarrassed for people that put these lineups together if 672 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 1: there are no if there's not like more than one, 673 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: because it used to be like, wow, there's no woman 674 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: on this list. Now it's like if I see one 675 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: woman on the list, I'm like, seriously, Like when I 676 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: when I see the cast of like a movie and 677 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: there's one woman, I'm like, I'm not watching any movie 678 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: where there's one woman. I'm sorry, I'm not. I don't 679 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: care what the story is. I don't care what the 680 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: situation is, what you're depicting. I'm just not interested. Not 681 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: only Partment did some speech recently. It was for like 682 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't for the human rights campaign might even where 683 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 1: she was like, you should be embarrassed, like this is 684 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: how things should be going forward. You should be embarrassed 685 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: if you have like some homogeneous cast or some homogeneous 686 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: group of whatever, like be embarrassed. This is you know. 687 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: That's how kind of how I feel about the movie 688 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: First Man, Like Danil Armstrong movie. I heard it's a 689 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: great movie, but I'm not interested in seeing it because 690 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: Claire Foy is the only woman in it. And it's 691 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: just like it's it has nothing to do with whether 692 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: or nothing movie is good. It's just like I've seen 693 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: this story so many times. Yeah, and like a man 694 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 1: going into space put upon wife. Yeah, you know what, 695 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: and is just it's from that Shooter movie too. It's 696 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: from like every time a man is doing like the 697 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: big hero thing and the way it's like you're gonna 698 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: do what space? It's like, bitch, this has been how 699 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: far space for dinner? The thing like what am I 700 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: going to tell our children? It's like, well, This also 701 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: is a fucking stupid question because if it was you 702 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: going out there, would you want your husband saying the 703 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,439 Speaker 1: same thing to you. It's like this, this writing is dumb, 704 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: Like these are not the kinds of questions people ask, 705 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 1: like and like if yeah, a cool badass space dude 706 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: is gonna marry a cool badass earthly give your your 707 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: male hero more credit. I feel like, but these were 708 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: actually you know, like to tie it back to the 709 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: roles in the way that we like envision UM like 710 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: our mates and what our life will look like. It's 711 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: like these are these were the options, these are the 712 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 1: menu items before and now it's like amazing to to say, like, yeah, 713 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: it's obvious that this is like an old way of thinking. 714 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: These are like old and there's like so there's so 715 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: many people in um TV writing like old school people 716 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: that are like back in the day, yes, you used 717 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: to make a hundred million dollars in episode, and now 718 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: you've got these you know, one million dollar a year 719 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: situations and it's like, bitch, you're rich, like and now 720 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: there's more people making more money. That's good. You know, 721 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: like a show like Search Party can exist and it 722 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,240 Speaker 1: doesn't have to draw you know, forty million people. Everyone 723 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have to like the same thing, but like, let's 724 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: get more menu items going. And and also I really 725 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: there's something. There's a very few things I hate than 726 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: the than the phrase like back in the day, like 727 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 1: or like when I was young, it's like that Megan 728 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: Kelly bullshit of like when I was young used to 729 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: be able to do this and it wasn't a big deal. 730 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: It's like, just put your red hat on and walk right. 731 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: Just because something is nostalgic to you doesn't mean it 732 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: was right. It doesn't make you like tougher or braver, 733 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: like when like when like old white guys say, well, 734 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: back in my day, it's like that actually doesn't make 735 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: you tougher, it makes you more limited. Sure, I'm just 736 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: always worried that we're going to fall into that trump 737 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: some day two of like wow, I just feel like 738 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: when people talk about polyamory, I am like, uh, the 739 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: right way, I'm like, yeah, which is fine, I guess. 740 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean, like I just think I haven't because I 741 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: haven't personally seen people gay men can do it well. 742 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: And that is that's again a generalization, but I see 743 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: successful couples playing in that way. Um, but I have 744 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: not really seen it, and to generalize it is, I mean, yeah, 745 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: and I wonder what it is about out. I wonder 746 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,919 Speaker 1: what it is because it's like, yes, it's my own fear. 747 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: Well I and I think that it's it's a it's 748 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: it's it's our own fear. It's also like again, I 749 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: do think it is like the patriarchy and traditionalism eaking 750 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: in which I think none of us can deny that 751 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 1: it does eke in, and it does affect our choices subconsciously. 752 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: It works. It's very low, it's one of the most 753 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: low things about life. But I also think like gay 754 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: male sexuality, I think is a male sexual life about life, 755 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: about life about life. Um, but in gay male sexuality 756 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 1: and male sexuality, I think is just different than and 757 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: then you involve female sexuality. And I do think there 758 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: are differences in the two. I'm not like, like well 759 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 1: versed enough in in both to like talk about why 760 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: that is. But it feels like in heterosexual relationship, not 761 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: only do you have like the traditional like in the patriarchy, 762 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: kind of creeping in psychologically, but also there's got to 763 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: be something there that like me because like maybe because 764 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: it's more like intimate and connective, like the actual like 765 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but then Sabrina for 766 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: you for a gay female female relationship, like is yeah, 767 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean is that does that go against like general 768 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 1: generalizations people make about how it's so monogamous, how those 769 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: are so like unusually passionately like emotional. That's like I 770 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: guess like the like the stereotype about like lesbians is 771 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: like yeah, it's like we look at each other in 772 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: the eyes and it's always like that. Whereas game out 773 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: or like yeah we came, now we can go do 774 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: it with someone else, Like what yeah, I mean, well, 775 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: I guess we can be conscious now as after we 776 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: just had this conversation of like we get it, I 777 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,760 Speaker 1: want to just put it out there that like gender 778 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: fluidity everything everyone, Like I do think that like in 779 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: a future future world, if we really really like trust 780 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: fell back into openness and truth, we we could be 781 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: in relationships to each other, you know, like gay men 782 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: gay went like just like I do think that haves 783 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: to have to make a hole in this way that oftentimes, 784 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: like like when I was saying that, I was like 785 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 1: on the back of the motorcycle wanting to grab the polls. 786 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: It's like i am like I'm in that moment. I'm 787 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 1: basically I'm like, it's kind of like a two bitches 788 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: don't make it right type attitude. Um, but I think 789 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: that there's you know, like there's also there's nothing wrong 790 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: with just uh, things become traditional and think patterns repeat themselves, 791 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: and that's like, you know, at the end of the day, 792 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,879 Speaker 1: when we go to the airport, one of us needs 793 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: to carry the bags, you know, and it's not like 794 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm like I'm dying to carry the heavy bags when 795 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: it's like I'm the butcher one, so I will do it. 796 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: And then when it came time to carry a baby, 797 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: it's like, bitch, get those hips cracking U. And it's 798 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: like so we get to like go on family vacations 799 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 1: because we're all doing our role. I think that like 800 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: you're right about like if we trust fell into what 801 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: we truth, like what you're saying, like, if we all 802 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: actually like let ourselves be attracted to what we're all 803 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: really attracted to, everyone would be fucking their minds would 804 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 1: be blond. Like if we all were just like yeah, 805 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,879 Speaker 1: really let everything go and allowed ourselves And maybe that's 806 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: like impossible, but to just do that, it would be crazy. Yeah. 807 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: And then at the same time, I think it's like 808 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to maybe there's a thing about polyamory 809 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: or or openness that is like to me, it's like, 810 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: I am like, so, um, I feel so lucky to 811 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: be with my wife, and I feel like I got 812 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: a really good, you know deal, like like I exchange 813 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: rated myself to like a really awesome, great person hot 814 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: sweet uh connected when like such a great that I 815 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: don't want to like go back into the market and 816 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,879 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, you grab something, I'll grab something. I'll 817 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 1: may be back here at noon. It's like I'm terrified 818 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: I come back at noon and there's like just a 819 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: harem of people around, like one weirdo that I'm just 820 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: like with someone that I felt bad for and like 821 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: I've been talking to for four hours since she's been 822 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: fucking every cool model. Wow, that's that's really Yeah. I 823 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,479 Speaker 1: don't know. My boyfriend and I ex boyfriend, we tried 824 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 1: um being open and it did not work. It seems complicated, 825 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: frustrated because I was like, why does this work for 826 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: everyone else? But then I also think there is like 827 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: the production not I think everyone not to say that 828 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 1: there aren't some open relationship that are just seamless. I'm 829 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,919 Speaker 1: good for you, that's true, But like, I think there's 830 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: struggles in a relationship that we don't necessarily hear about. Yes, 831 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: it probably adds a layer of complication, regardless, it's another 832 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: thing to manage. And the and the mental model of 833 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: success in a polyamorous relationship or in an open relationship, 834 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: which is I guess it's different, but um oh yeah 835 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't really exist. I mean it's the 836 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: witch model like like like like when when you hear 837 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 1: Monique talk about how like, yes, my husband and I 838 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: are open and it's been great, Like you don't really 839 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: know what like to the public, that isn't like you 840 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 1: don't like to me. Let's say to the lay person, 841 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means? Yeah, like is it 842 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: is it great? And that no one gets jealous? Is 843 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: it great? And that you are also connected with other people? Now? 844 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: Is it? Like? Is it great? And that you guys 845 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: haven't fought about the parameters? I think I think the 846 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: thing the reason we're having this discussion in the first 847 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: place is because the parameters aren't set in general for 848 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: everybody anyway. Is that people are just are just making 849 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: up their own I will say that was the most 850 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 1: difficult thing about being in the open relationship is agreeing 851 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 1: on the rules. Yeah, I think it's I think I 852 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,399 Speaker 1: guess so then rather than say, like game it works 853 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: for gay men, It's like it's got to be some 854 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: It's got to be two people who are have like 855 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 1: supreme have supremely master their security and communicating that to 856 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: each other. Which is or the other thing is like 857 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: I think being a part of something together. I'm not 858 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: saying that like in my life, I'm that I'm like 859 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 1: so narrow that I'm like, you know, if Sean and 860 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: I were like in by the way, you know, or 861 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: like we're like off away and there's someone with that 862 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: like doesn't have an Instagram, is so hot and wants 863 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: us both equally, like yeah, let's do you know? Like 864 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm not that's that seems like the same someone and 865 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: a different way for sure. Um oh wait, okay, did 866 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 1: you mention off off the mic, off the here that 867 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: you had this stunt moment and tomorrow tomorrow you have 868 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: an acting role in the and the wedding episode and 869 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 1: I have a stunt double that I can't wait to meet. Okay, 870 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: and you wrote that the wedding I read the episode. Yeah, amazing, incredible. Okay, 871 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 1: so did you know that you were going to be 872 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: performing the stunt of the role that No, they didn't. 873 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: I read it at the table, but then they didn't 874 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: tell me till last week. And I'm so happy. I 875 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: can't believe so much happens. This season is so fucking good. 876 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: It felt so good. I've been writing on shows for 877 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 1: the past few years now, and like writing on Search 878 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: Party just such a dream to write on a show 879 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 1: that I watched because I came in on the third 880 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: season for the first time and just like be a 881 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 1: part of like playing with the dolls of the story 882 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 1: is just good and it's such a good there's such 883 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 1: good dolls. There's such good dolls. Charles and sv that 884 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: create who created it, like just no, you know the 885 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: world of the show and they know what they want 886 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: and and that was like so special because I had 887 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: been working in network where it's like there's like so 888 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 1: much pressure and so many people telling you kind of 889 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: what the story is that oftentimes it gets lost. You know. 890 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 1: It's like the stories that way, that way, that way, 891 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: and it's like what are we Why did we even 892 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 1: step on stage to tell the story? Um? But yeah, 893 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: Charles and sv are perfect and the um Lily's in 894 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: the room, Lily's having a baby really burns. I didn't 895 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: know Lily was having a brushing through her belly and 896 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: soon through somewhere. Oh wait, now I'm actually remembering vividly. Yes, 897 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: I do know that she is truly the best, like 898 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: the coolest, smartest. Yeah, very cool, very smart. Fun to 899 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 1: be part of it, fun to be good. In the 900 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 1: fourth episode, not right. First season, I just this is 901 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 1: such a weird thing to be obsessed over. But I 902 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: just loved the promo art style. I love it. Where 903 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: the first season was like hardy boys Nancy Drew, second 904 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: season was hedgecock. I don't have to tell me. I 905 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 1: just I can't wait for what? When is it premiere? 906 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: When does it start? I don't know when. We don't know. 907 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 1: I think I'm shooting, like I think they've got one 908 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: more months left of shooting, because I remember last year 909 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 1: it started around November around this time. But it seems like, yeah, 910 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 1: you guys are well trying to do some editing after this, Yeah, 911 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: just get because we wanted to rather later. 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So wait, okay, so the stunt have you? 946 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: Have you met with the stunt double You have not? 947 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,839 Speaker 1: I have not, But let me just tell you about 948 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 1: Mary LB. So. I don't give away anything about the 949 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: episode because I feel like I can't tell you what 950 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 1: my character parent does. But I met Okay, So back 951 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: in the day, when did you leave Canada? Oh like 952 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 1: a long time? Okay? Cool? Um, so a little bit 953 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: after that, when I guess it was like probably I 954 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 1: was nineteen years old. I'm thirty three now, So that 955 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 1: many years ago, I was the host of a kids 956 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 1: show on y TV called in TV. Oh my God, 957 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,839 Speaker 1: would you word what TV? Yeah? And it was three 958 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,720 Speaker 1: seasons of like running around North it was like amazing 959 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: race buff for kids. And one episode they learned how 960 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 1: to be stunt drivers stunts doubles, stunt doubles on Paramount Lot. 961 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,400 Speaker 1: And I met this lady Mary Alby. Wait so you 962 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: might hear about then yes, do you guys do any 963 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 1: editing of music? Because I feel like this would be 964 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,240 Speaker 1: like a good place for like the Mary I'll be moment, 965 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 1: we'll cut that in. Okay, good and we're back. Tell 966 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 1: us more about Mary. Um, first, raise your expectations, because 967 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: I'm getting nervous about how good the conversation was. Basically, 968 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,800 Speaker 1: we were having lunch and she taught me about like 969 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 1: She's like, look, this is a crazy industry. You got 970 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: to diversify your investments. You got she had an avocado 971 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 1: farm and she invested in real estate. But I really, uh, 972 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, that stuck in my head and then I yeah, 973 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: and then and then now she's fucking she's your stunt double. 974 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 1: No she's not. She is, No, just did not know. 975 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: I think it was dun for you for tomorrow. I've 976 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 1: been I was out till four in the morning, and 977 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 1: I literally literally I know I met this woman in 978 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 1: the eighties, like way back in what I met her 979 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,319 Speaker 1: in real life on the show. In real life. It's 980 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: not now that I'm saying it. It's like not a 981 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 1: good story, Like she didn't really she literally told me 982 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,320 Speaker 1: to buy an avocado farm. I didn't buy one. So 983 00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: it's not like it's like I anyway stunts, Oh my god, 984 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 1: I really wasn't that. Also, like I wasn't even invited 985 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,240 Speaker 1: on the show yet, and I was like Mary Alby. 986 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's her real name. I mean, 987 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: the thing about stunts is it's in It's like, have 988 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 1: I ever done a stunt. I've only worked with stunt 989 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: doubles on a stunt people on Broad City Because the 990 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: people that I like, these two women who are fighting 991 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,360 Speaker 1: at this pop up sale where these stunt women in 992 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: one I had this clamming in the face, but they 993 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 1: were just catching like they know it's such a small 994 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 1: industry where everyone knows each other. Like think of like 995 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 1: how incestuous people say comedy is, but it's like no, 996 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,720 Speaker 1: it's like scale it down even more. It's like that's 997 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: and maybe if it's like the Olympics, they all have 998 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 1: sex with each other just to add a little sex 999 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 1: I think. I think about like all the Olympic athletes 1000 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 1: fucking and it really drives me. That's all I do. 1001 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,399 Speaker 1: It's all I remember. I remember during London, um, someone 1002 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 1: told me, told me who it is, Like have you 1003 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 1: heard about this this grinder? Just so many cart wheels 1004 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: in their sex grinder? What like in London there was 1005 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 1: this like grinder. Traffic was spiked in London at the 1006 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 1: Olympic village because all these athletes were sucking each other 1007 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,800 Speaker 1: and there were so many gays, so many gay athletes 1008 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 1: just fucking. Okay, And that's all I've been able to 1009 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 1: think about. When the Olympics roll on, I'm like, oh, 1010 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:26,320 Speaker 1: they're all bodies are It's so wild. Let's do a 1011 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 1: competition and then your listeners have to vote in which 1012 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 1: is the best fucking moment of two Olympic athletes. I 1013 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:40,919 Speaker 1: will start, Okay, Bradley walks up to the horse bar, 1014 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 1: he mounts it. He does a front and lands on 1015 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: Tatiana's lap. She is wearing a strap on that that's great. Okay, 1016 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 1: that's good. Should I go next and talk to you 1017 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:07,800 Speaker 1: the real people that I should know about? Okay, told May. 1018 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 1: Standing on the diving board, he is being watched by millions, 1019 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: So good he take He He crouches down sort of 1020 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 1: like sort of like a pop star and slowly runs 1021 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 1: his hands up his body and it's so central, and 1022 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: he rises up with his hands until he puts his 1023 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 1: hands above his head like a gymnast like this, and 1024 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: you just see his hands go pink like his little hands. 1025 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 1: They go down like when a gymnast lands, and they go. 1026 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 1: It's at this moment that someone comes up behind him. 1027 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 1: It's Roland, and Roland kind of grabs him and like 1028 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 1: they Roland kisses his ear like and he starts to 1029 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 1: bite his ear a little bit, and millions are watching. 1030 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 1: They never jump in the water, and they just fuck 1031 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 1: on the board. They and they don't even penetrate. It's 1032 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:18,920 Speaker 1: just raw sensuality, and it's so romantic that gays are 1033 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 1: accepted everything. I'm so jealous, I'm so embarrassed. About mine? 1034 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 1: Why did I do kind of sex that I've never 1035 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 1: been involved in? Why did I give shitty names? You've 1036 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,080 Speaker 1: just heard? Is my actual sexual fantasy just being watched 1037 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 1: by millions of people? And then song comes up behind 1038 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 1: me and bites my ear and like fucking whispers in 1039 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 1: my ear, and I'm like, I can't follow this. Yeah, 1040 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 1: that's really hard. You're a writer on these shows. Um, 1041 00:58:54,920 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 1: it's the opening ceremony. Oh god, the flags are being 1042 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 1: wheeled out and carried out. I should say, Um, you 1043 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: have Ding Ding in the Chinese delegation, the Chinese team. 1044 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 1: Who is who is um a nineteen year old? He's 1045 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 1: also a gymnast, male gymnast, rippling muscles, hot hot stocky 1046 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 1: or like lean stocky stocky, dude stocky Dinging the Chinese 1047 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 1: gymnast got it. And by the way, like every every year, 1048 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: the Chinese male gymnasts are like in my book, like 1049 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 1: the hottest people. And then the whole fucking can I 1050 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 1: can I say? Can I say one more thing about line? Wait, 1051 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying something about mine. If you see something finished, 1052 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, unconscionable. Okay, so is gonna be so mad 1053 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: that Ing Ding Ding walks out with the flag and 1054 00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:04,439 Speaker 1: then three three three delegations ahead is Egypt and oh 1055 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 1: my god is named after the Egyptian singer Um. And 1056 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 1: he is, he's in the he's he's he's on the 1057 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 1: hockey team. This is a weird like winter summer, sort 1058 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 1: of like confusion and then love affair. And then Coultum 1059 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 1: runs back because he just sensed something, a sensuality pouring 1060 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 1: out of ding Jing. And then they sixty nine while 1061 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: holding each other's flags, so so Dingjing standing like like 1062 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 1: wraps his legs around, his neck, slips around, goes down 1063 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 1: the sixty nine as they carry their flags. Mary all, 1064 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna need to get off. Then Mary Albi is 1065 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 1: watching from home being like I should have I should 1066 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 1: have sold the farm. I should have been there, and 1067 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 1: then then and then and then uh millions. That's it's 1068 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 1: the most watched moment in the entire and the entire operation. Right, 1069 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 1: but it's so so impressive but also so jarring the people. 1070 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 1: Uh the gays are put in jails. Everywhere has the 1071 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 1: opposite it has. Let me just col her my story 1072 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 1: about one more time. Of course, I forgot to say 1073 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 1: Toma and Roland each Thomas competing for Mexico and Roland 1074 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 1: is competing for America, and therefore it is a political statement. 1075 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,560 Speaker 1: Is fuming okay? And Trump actually, when he sees this, 1076 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 1: turns to sand got beautiful. He turns to sund Did 1077 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 1: you have anything? Yeah, that's gorgeous. I already thought of 1078 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:42,840 Speaker 1: her as gorgeous. Describe her gender fluid, Yes, okay, No 1079 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 1: one cares about the bio. It's all steam on the face. 1080 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 1: Gorge She sounds essential. Real name is blanc Get the 1081 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:07,760 Speaker 1: last name how Pegistani her? Yes, I say Tomas last 1082 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 1: name Roma? And what's Roland's last name? Williams Roll? Tatiana? 1083 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:25,439 Speaker 1: Tatiana's anonymously Ta Changings. Full name is went Dingjing because 1084 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: last names go first and China and Um and Kutum 1085 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 1: is kutum, which is a reversal of umkutum, which is 1086 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:37,440 Speaker 1: in Egypt, is actually apt. She was like the Madonna 1087 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: of she was She was bigger than Madonna. She was 1088 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 1: like huge. She was like the biggest selling artist in 1089 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 1: like all of Africa and Europe. Like just what happened 1090 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 1: to her? Why haven't I she like she died in 1091 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 1: the fifties or the sixties, or so oh this she 1092 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 1: was very very long. How do you know that I 1093 01:02:55,600 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 1: took a musicology his last culture? Maybe you've heard um, 1094 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 1: maybe you've heard. Wait, we have to ask Sabrina this question. Yes, 1095 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 1: we do, you ask it. Okay, So Sabrina, this is 1096 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 1: the question that we ask all of our guests when 1097 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,760 Speaker 1: they rolled through UM, which is what was the culture 1098 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 1: that made you say? Culture was for me, like the 1099 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 1: pop culture that you experienced as a youngster that made 1100 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 1: you kind of step into who you were, Like it's 1101 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 1: a movie, book, a show, a person that was like 1102 01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 1: a celebrity, like a culture that you grew up with. 1103 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 1: What was the defining thing that you're like, Oh, that 1104 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 1: was kind of like what defined me. I've just been 1105 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 1: so nervous ever since you said, we asked this to 1106 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:41,920 Speaker 1: everybody is finally racing away from that, stepping forward. It 1107 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 1: could just be like a Canada, or it could be 1108 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 1: like just any big broad thing. Um, like seeing Ellen 1109 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:53,280 Speaker 1: degenerous to stand up amazing that was really big for you. Yeah, yeah, 1110 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,120 Speaker 1: because she was and I didn't know that I was gay, 1111 01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 1: And the first time you saw her, um, I knew 1112 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 1: she was like me and something, you know, like just 1113 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 1: seeing this woman be in her power and not be 1114 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 1: um like yeah, breaking out of whatever anyone was supposed 1115 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 1: to be like and just being so cool and fun 1116 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 1: and and then are you I'm curious, well not to 1117 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 1: like I'm curiously do you feel like Ellen has lived 1118 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 1: up to that power like that now she's like a 1119 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,800 Speaker 1: huge company And I don't think it's like a secret 1120 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 1: that like people say she's not that, which is but 1121 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 1: also like everybody can't be everything, like Sarah Silverman is 1122 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 1: also someone that I like love and admire. And then 1123 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 1: last week that quote that she said was like, I mean, 1124 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 1: no matter what was attached before and after the thing 1125 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 1: about like Luisinka masturbated in front of me, it's like 1126 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 1: why why that? So it's like if you just keep 1127 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,440 Speaker 1: on talking, I guess you will get caught up in 1128 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,520 Speaker 1: some silliness. And yeah, I mean that's kind of what 1129 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 1: we always say, Like there's literally now hundreds of hours 1130 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 1: of us just talking, especially in the beginning, and we 1131 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 1: thought no one would listen to this. Yeah, well they'll 1132 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 1: get us, um, but yeah, there is that thing of like, Yeah, 1133 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 1: to Ellen's credit, I think like at least she's in 1134 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 1: complete control of everything that she does. So you would 1135 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 1: never know because of something she does that she wasn't great. 1136 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 1: It's just like leaking people that I guess like have 1137 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 1: experiences with her. And I will say also, I think 1138 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 1: the people are always excited for a take on on 1139 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,400 Speaker 1: an icon. You know, like every every single person she meets, 1140 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,040 Speaker 1: they have a takeaway of like the time they met Ellen. 1141 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,920 Speaker 1: And she has like a hundred million and one business 1142 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,600 Speaker 1: things to do in a day, So you can't be everything, you're, right, Yeah, 1143 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,440 Speaker 1: And does she do more great than bad? For sure? Right, 1144 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 1: every day genuinely and generally has used her powers for good. 1145 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,960 Speaker 1: And I guess that is the ultimate question that if 1146 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 1: you ask if you go to bed every night and 1147 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:55,920 Speaker 1: you say, did I use my powers for good today? 1148 01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, you know what we're We're we've sort of 1149 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,600 Speaker 1: taken Ellen to task in very fun, facetious ways. No, 1150 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 1: I actually have a real problem with you, Like, like 1151 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,800 Speaker 1: my my issue with Ellen is that I often think 1152 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,600 Speaker 1: she gives problematic and sometimes maybe even dangerous celebrities platforms 1153 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 1: to kind of like look good. So I think that's 1154 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 1: something that's an issue that I personally have. The example 1155 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 1: that I cite is Matthew Fox from Lost he like 1156 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 1: punched a bus driver, a female bus driver. Yeah, it 1157 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 1: was like it was Matthew Fox was also on Party 1158 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 1: of five. I didn't even know that about it. He 1159 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 1: apparently was like a little bit or maybe even a 1160 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 1: lot of bit abusive towards people. And I think that 1161 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,480 Speaker 1: the very first talk show that he was that he 1162 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 1: went on was like Ellen Show and this is kind 1163 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 1: of before the whole era of like times at me 1164 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 1: to believe women being the kind of thing it is. 1165 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,640 Speaker 1: But she didn't not give him a platform to be like, 1166 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 1: this isn't who this, this is, this can't possibly be true, 1167 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,920 Speaker 1: when it like very much possibly could be true. And 1168 01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,480 Speaker 1: there was footage of him. No, I don't know if 1169 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 1: that there was footage. I don't know about like what 1170 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 1: the specificity was. I know that his co stars from 1171 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 1: Lost also step forward and said he's an abuser, like 1172 01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,840 Speaker 1: came forward, and the way she framed the interview is 1173 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 1: very much like come on. It was like wait, this 1174 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,960 Speaker 1: is we know this isn't you? So what happened? And 1175 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,000 Speaker 1: then he was able to say his story. Meanwhile, like 1176 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 1: this woman that made the allegation, like I don't think 1177 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,360 Speaker 1: she was afforded the same opportunities definitely. Also, I guess 1178 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 1: you just like you, it is inevitable that you get 1179 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 1: your you lose touch with certain right aspects of being 1180 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,800 Speaker 1: a regular person when you're famous for most of your life. 1181 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,760 Speaker 1: And also, you know what, I don't know, Ellen, I 1182 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,960 Speaker 1: just know, like that's that's like I don't I also 1183 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 1: don't know that it was entirely her decision to have 1184 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,640 Speaker 1: him on. I also find that she is usually the 1185 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 1: one to have like biberon or like I think, I 1186 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,680 Speaker 1: don't know if she's had Kanye on lately, but I 1187 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:46,880 Speaker 1: feel like it's just like you can always kind of 1188 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,920 Speaker 1: count on her to, like I think, be an advocate 1189 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,760 Speaker 1: for these extremely famous people that have problems, which is 1190 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,560 Speaker 1: I think having to do with the fact that she 1191 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,960 Speaker 1: knows what it's like to be extremely famous and be scrutinized. However, 1192 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 1: or I don't always think these people deserve the kind 1193 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 1: of um retribution and repute, like that kind of platform 1194 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,800 Speaker 1: to get retribution that she allows. Sometimes I think you 1195 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 1: call us spade a spade. The losing touch part is interesting. Oh, 1196 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,360 Speaker 1: I was talking to someone about this um but very 1197 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 1: funny and influential and good totally UM. There's this thing. 1198 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,880 Speaker 1: This is fun weird trend now where it's like these 1199 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 1: actors turn directors are making these period coming of age 1200 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 1: movies right with like your Regretta Growiggs, Jenny Birds, your 1201 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,479 Speaker 1: Jona mid nineties. Um even I guess bow, I guess 1202 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,760 Speaker 1: it's not period, but bou Burden with eighth grade. It's 1203 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,639 Speaker 1: like there's this It's like a new, weird, new fun 1204 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,080 Speaker 1: sub genre. It seems like a trend. Um, it's a trend. 1205 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,599 Speaker 1: And then we were like what is that? And then 1206 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,400 Speaker 1: Sandy Honigg was like, I think it's because and Sandy 1207 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,760 Speaker 1: Sandy said that her brother Jake said this, it's like, um, 1208 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 1: it's like the reason they're making these period movies and 1209 01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,000 Speaker 1: that the were that are coming of ages because that 1210 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,799 Speaker 1: was the last time that they were like not famous 1211 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 1: and normal. They're like, wait, I was normal back then. 1212 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,880 Speaker 1: Let me make a movie about that. And at least, 1213 01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,640 Speaker 1: like that's better than like fully losing touches to like 1214 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 1: create a touchdowne for that. But like I don't know, Yeah, 1215 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean, your ellens are your ellens aren't going to 1216 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 1: be everything. But also I mean her standard back then 1217 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:17,800 Speaker 1: was like amazing. She's revolutionary. Yeah, like deal lover. She's 1218 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 1: the Mary I'll be of comedy a lot of people. 1219 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: I also think that I also think Ellen could stunts. 1220 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 1: She could do stunts. Mary is the oh one other 1221 01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:32,160 Speaker 1: thing about stunts. Please let this be better than The Advocate. 1222 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,639 Speaker 1: Please just a podcast where you say what your inner 1223 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 1: monologue is about what you're thinking to say. Um, I 1224 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:46,600 Speaker 1: hope the hosts like it is that When I was 1225 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 1: on in real life on what I also learned from 1226 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,640 Speaker 1: her was that stunts, stunt people get paid, um like 1227 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,720 Speaker 1: double or triple what actors get paid. And if you're 1228 01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,760 Speaker 1: ever on set and you're asked to do anything like 1229 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,519 Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to act to be a stunt. 1230 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,960 Speaker 1: If you're riding a horse, if you're like someone you 1231 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,759 Speaker 1: know punches but misses you like it's not it doesn't 1232 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,640 Speaker 1: have to be like a huge action thing, it qualifies 1233 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,439 Speaker 1: as stunt pay. And now looking back, it's actually something 1234 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,880 Speaker 1: that I was like, was I on the right side 1235 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 1: of my own history on this? Because I found that 1236 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,439 Speaker 1: out and then made my agent fight for stunt pay 1237 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,720 Speaker 1: like every time I like lifted a back, like every 1238 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:28,080 Speaker 1: time I did anything at all that And eventually one 1239 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,320 Speaker 1: of the producers pulled me aside or the creator the 1240 01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,040 Speaker 1: show pulled me aside. He was like, you know when 1241 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,600 Speaker 1: when your agent is talking to us about money, that 1242 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,320 Speaker 1: like it's actually a conversation between you and me. And 1243 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,559 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, but I'm doing it. I don't 1244 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,160 Speaker 1: know what this is about. I actually wait, I'm not 1245 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,599 Speaker 1: comfortable with this. Wait hold on actually had a stunty 1246 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:52,080 Speaker 1: to me somewhere is this that this conversation seems like 1247 01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,640 Speaker 1: I should get paid stunt? But the whole show was 1248 01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 1: like then you could always justify because we were like, 1249 01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, running around alligators and like just doing wild stuff. 1250 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, did you do? I was obsessed with 1251 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,160 Speaker 1: watched They liked it? They like that part, They like 1252 01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,479 Speaker 1: that part. Did you ever watch oh on my TV 1253 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,479 Speaker 1: as a kid? With? I think? Did they invent that before? 1254 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 1: Nickelodeon didn't know? I don't know. I wonder are you 1255 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 1: saying are you attacking America by saying that Nickelodeon wasn't 1256 01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,599 Speaker 1: the first to bring Google? Absolutely? How do you feel 1257 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,400 Speaker 1: about the new regime being like mad at Canada? It's 1258 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,960 Speaker 1: just like a whole other layer of like, oh god, 1259 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,759 Speaker 1: I'm brown, I'm gay, I'm an immigrant, and you hate Canada. 1260 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:35,240 Speaker 1: Do they hate Canada? They say that the beautiful Prime 1261 01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:39,000 Speaker 1: Minister is being unreasonable. They're just like, like, it's it's 1262 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:44,680 Speaker 1: the fact that the US is antagonizing Canada is highly unusual. 1263 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,240 Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's so weird. It's like someone having 1264 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 1: a problem with a partner, right having Like when she's 1265 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:58,519 Speaker 1: in the green room, I'm not in there. Can you imagine? Um? 1266 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,760 Speaker 1: I was going to say that. Um wait, now I'm 1267 01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:05,920 Speaker 1: thinking about fan pick of like Trudeau and Anthony, Oh Canadians. 1268 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:11,320 Speaker 1: That's so, those are two people who word for me. 1269 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 1: It's not even about viciality. I'd love to watch them 1270 01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:19,479 Speaker 1: like who's each other's ask? Okay, um, they're so hot. Also, 1271 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,080 Speaker 1: Trudeau's butt is out of control. Have you seen his butt? 1272 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,360 Speaker 1: It's like photo of his ass. It's like takeing me. 1273 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,720 Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that, Um, Mary Albi is 1274 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:39,120 Speaker 1: the tomorrow Tomorrow. I just want to say that. Tatiana 1275 01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 1: after Bradley lands on her, by the way, the thing 1276 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,840 Speaker 1: that he jumps off is one hundred miles tall, I 1277 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:52,360 Speaker 1: forgotten one hundred miles tall. Okay. She takes an avocado 1278 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,600 Speaker 1: out of her butt, cracks it open like uses her 1279 01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,320 Speaker 1: nails to like slice around it, opens it and inside 1280 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:03,400 Speaker 1: is the thick quack. The clock is already made. There's 1281 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:08,840 Speaker 1: like it's made from the smashing from Bradley Landing. I 1282 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 1: forgot to say that tomorrow Mile looks like like a 1283 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:16,240 Speaker 1: Latino version of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, and um Roland 1284 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,000 Speaker 1: Williams looks exactly like Anthony, in fact that in fact 1285 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:24,000 Speaker 1: it is Anthony. I forgot to say that, Um that 1286 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,240 Speaker 1: Jing Jing also does. He is a gymnast after all, 1287 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:31,280 Speaker 1: also does the one hundred miles Obama horse lands and 1288 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,959 Speaker 1: does unfortunately die as most people would. But but Bradley 1289 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 1: lands perfectly on the strap on gets pegged and it 1290 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:46,800 Speaker 1: doesn't know and question about my fat. Someone told me 1291 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,920 Speaker 1: recently that they sat on a dick and came immediately, 1292 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, I imagine that, Oh my god, 1293 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 1: imagine that in fact, good good and came immediately. I 1294 01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:05,800 Speaker 1: oh really, I whispered over the mic. I think it's time. 1295 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,479 Speaker 1: I think it might be time for I don't think 1296 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,400 Speaker 1: so honey, is ever I don't think so honey. Okay, 1297 01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,720 Speaker 1: are you ready? I'm sucking ready? So I don't think 1298 01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,040 Speaker 1: so honey. Oh, by the way, are you going to 1299 01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,920 Speaker 1: be You're going to be in December. I already harassed 1300 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,400 Speaker 1: you on Twitter and I want to be on the show. 1301 01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 1: You are on the shop. Um, so you're booked. Me 1302 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 1: and Joel Kim Booster are going to host it together 1303 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:27,320 Speaker 1: because boy will be working, working, working. Leave. You should 1304 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 1: leave a second. I could leave. You should stay in 1305 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,000 Speaker 1: your contract. When you want to go, you can go. 1306 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:32,559 Speaker 1: And I want to come back, you can come back. 1307 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,519 Speaker 1: And you're not staying all night with those fools and 1308 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:39,320 Speaker 1: do stump pay? Excuse me, I'm doing some stunt writing 1309 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,800 Speaker 1: and I'm feeling dangerous. Can someone put the money in 1310 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,080 Speaker 1: my pocket? I'm not condorible with this conversation. I'm sun 1311 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,920 Speaker 1: uh listen l A the region. It's just gonna be 1312 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:51,920 Speaker 1: so much fun. Get your tickets now. It's downtown l A. 1313 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,519 Speaker 1: I'm seething with jealousy. Today, November, we're doing one here 1314 01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,400 Speaker 1: at the Bellhouse. That'll be fucking fun. Remembatory stix. We're 1315 01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:03,439 Speaker 1: doing Queers Live at pub Paperline Teeth. My birthday, My 1316 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:08,479 Speaker 1: birthday just a little bit sooner six Selection dayDay. But 1317 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,880 Speaker 1: I guess by the time this is over, by the 1318 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,679 Speaker 1: time this is episode is released, we'll already have voted. 1319 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:21,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that pit in my stomach feeling. We'll see. Okay, um, 1320 01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,720 Speaker 1: I actually have something. Um this is Matt Rodgers is 1321 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 1: I don't think so many as time starts now, I 1322 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,000 Speaker 1: don't think so. Honey. When people are arguing on the 1323 01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:32,479 Speaker 1: subway and it gets physical, guys, it is never worth it. 1324 01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,439 Speaker 1: I don't care if you think you are right and 1325 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:38,080 Speaker 1: this argument, just dispute whatever. Do not touch another person. 1326 01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:39,799 Speaker 1: And if someone is trying to come for you physically, 1327 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,280 Speaker 1: you get up and you walk the funk away. Over 1328 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,760 Speaker 1: the past month, I have seen so many people just 1329 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,479 Speaker 1: like fucking do dick measuring contests, men and women alike. 1330 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,240 Speaker 1: And it's just like you, guys, it is you're gonna 1331 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,560 Speaker 1: hurt someone else. Like that's the thing is. It's like 1332 01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,880 Speaker 1: if you're on the side of the subway, like when 1333 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,880 Speaker 1: you're waiting for something to come and you start having 1334 01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,640 Speaker 1: a physical altercation and screaming, you make people nervous, like 1335 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 1: if you push someone, like the subways are crowded, like, seriously, 1336 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,640 Speaker 1: put your dick away. Stop it. It is not worth it. 1337 01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,000 Speaker 1: I understand you might feel like in the wrong, but 1338 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:12,960 Speaker 1: it's like when you're in the subway. That's the fucking 1339 01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,559 Speaker 1: wild West. That to me is like a place where 1340 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,760 Speaker 1: you do not mess around. If someone gets pushed onto 1341 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,960 Speaker 1: the tracks, that's a fucking nightmare scenario. Do not be 1342 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,479 Speaker 1: fighting on the subway. If it gets physical, you run 1343 01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,519 Speaker 1: the other way. That's one minute. I know this is happening. 1344 01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,719 Speaker 1: So I've been witnessing it happened so many times recently 1345 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 1: where it's just like a stupid little fight, or like 1346 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,320 Speaker 1: someone catches someone the wrong way where like they hear 1347 01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:37,559 Speaker 1: something like I was on the subway that it actually 1348 01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:41,960 Speaker 1: at the Fulton g stop and this woman like really 1349 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 1: started screaming at this other woman because um, she felt 1350 01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,519 Speaker 1: that she was a nasty or her son or like 1351 01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,559 Speaker 1: like gave her son a weird look. And then it immediately, 1352 01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 1: like two minutes into the conversation, of course, got like racial, 1353 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,680 Speaker 1: and then it was like this weird thing where it 1354 01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,840 Speaker 1: was like I don't think this is gonna stop. And 1355 01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,360 Speaker 1: I actually ended up my subway came and I had 1356 01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,840 Speaker 1: driven away before um it got to there, but it 1357 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,640 Speaker 1: got both of them started physically threatening each other, like 1358 01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,840 Speaker 1: it was like one of them got up and then 1359 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,720 Speaker 1: she slammed the coffee out of the other ones hand, 1360 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,519 Speaker 1: so it did get physical. I was like, there's kids there, 1361 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:19,160 Speaker 1: it's like you have to like stop. And also because 1362 01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,760 Speaker 1: it is a little bit about performing for people. I 1363 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,400 Speaker 1: mean when you're fighting like that. And then she kept 1364 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,720 Speaker 1: saying like I will do whatever it takes to to 1365 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:28,720 Speaker 1: like protect my kids, and I'm like, you are not 1366 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,680 Speaker 1: protecting your kids. And then it was this whole other 1367 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 1: issue of like this woman is clearly unstable, and the 1368 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:38,320 Speaker 1: other woman like didn't have any sense in her fucking 1369 01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,200 Speaker 1: brain because she wouldn't just get up and walk away. 1370 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:43,280 Speaker 1: She just kept responding. And it's like someone's got to 1371 01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,799 Speaker 1: be the bigger person here, Like especially on the subway. 1372 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,320 Speaker 1: It particularly bothers me there because it's like such like 1373 01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 1: a weird, like a morphous situation, Like it's really dangerous 1374 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:58,439 Speaker 1: down there. I don't know, I really don't like physical, violent, 1375 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:02,160 Speaker 1: like domestic e It's just like my whole body and 1376 01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,080 Speaker 1: my whole I can't get it out of my head. 1377 01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,160 Speaker 1: It's like just the idea of not feeling safe and 1378 01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:09,640 Speaker 1: just like what the least you can do is not 1379 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,880 Speaker 1: fucking punch people and hurt people and make people unless 1380 01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:18,320 Speaker 1: it's a Nazi unless the Nazi and that you please 1381 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,160 Speaker 1: be in the field. Please everybody, No fighting in the subway. 1382 01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:24,080 Speaker 1: Fighting fighting in the subway. It's not worth it. Also, 1383 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,200 Speaker 1: you're not going to see each other literally ever again, 1384 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,120 Speaker 1: Like what are you getting? Only involving each other each 1385 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,360 Speaker 1: other and you're each other's you're only involving the other 1386 01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,839 Speaker 1: person in your life forever. Don't be fighting in the subway. 1387 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,400 Speaker 1: This is I don't think so, Honey, his time starts now. 1388 01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't think somebody this new trend of cord r 1389 01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,040 Speaker 1: being back in Yes, I'm looking at my blue Corter 1390 01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:42,760 Speaker 1: I have. But also I got on the on the 1391 01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,479 Speaker 1: ground floor with this trend back in two thousand five 1392 01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,200 Speaker 1: when I bought a brown corduroy blazer and I felt 1393 01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,479 Speaker 1: like fucking Mark from Rent Bitch. I felt like I 1394 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,599 Speaker 1: was so ahead of this trend, and now everyone wants 1395 01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 1: to hop on this thing now that I invented. I 1396 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:03,800 Speaker 1: should say I basically I sewed this hat together. I 1397 01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 1: truly did, and I might as well have. I mean, 1398 01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,320 Speaker 1: it's not it's it's it's figured speaking. I don't know 1399 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,839 Speaker 1: about this Cordarry thing. I know it's fall, but we're 1400 01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,080 Speaker 1: grasping against straws. Here we still have not given flannel 1401 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,559 Speaker 1: it's full moment. I think there's plenty to be explored 1402 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,479 Speaker 1: in the area of flannels. And for people to start 1403 01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:27,240 Speaker 1: going crazy over cord over this rough, basically striped material 1404 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:31,160 Speaker 1: is patently stupid to me, and I don't think. I 1405 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 1: don't fashion will look back, History will look back on 1406 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,840 Speaker 1: this with a discerning eye, and we will not be 1407 01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,160 Speaker 1: looking back on what's one minute, So he's attacked something 1408 01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,160 Speaker 1: that he does. Um No, I'm wearing a corter right 1409 01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,320 Speaker 1: hat as well. But I'm saying this trend now of 1410 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,400 Speaker 1: other people of the late person wearing corter right No, no, no, 1411 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,840 Speaker 1: this is for this is for the patricians. No, not 1412 01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:57,360 Speaker 1: for anyone else. That was true superiority, classism, classism, that 1413 01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,960 Speaker 1: you are classist, class um um. But everybody, I will say, 1414 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,519 Speaker 1: you know who's a true flannel queen is me and 1415 01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,600 Speaker 1: I have not been wearing my flannel. And also ar 1416 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,760 Speaker 1: gust Sabrina is wearing both. She's wearing flannel and fry. 1417 01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:17,280 Speaker 1: It's so thick, baby jelly. Which have you met study yet? 1418 01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:21,400 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, we met. 1419 01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:25,040 Speaker 1: I met when I met you guys at Charles's other party. Yes, 1420 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,720 Speaker 1: she was beautiful. I feel like you guys, like that 1421 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,880 Speaker 1: was a gorgeous meeting and you were not there. And 1422 01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,560 Speaker 1: now sometimes we're on in each other's instead. I like 1423 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:37,879 Speaker 1: your picture. That's good. Wait, so we met and Sabrina, 1424 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,519 Speaker 1: that wasn't one of them nights I danced the hardest 1425 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,760 Speaker 1: in my life? Did you see me dancing that night? 1426 01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 1: I gave you the power to dance that night. Actually 1427 01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,360 Speaker 1: I chose one person to activate and it was you 1428 01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,720 Speaker 1: because she was hanging out with Lisa Trigger, and I said, oh, 1429 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:54,320 Speaker 1: any friend of Tregger. Lisa Trigger is currently wheeling our 1430 01:20:54,360 --> 01:21:01,920 Speaker 1: son around set from that fucking high as the great 1431 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:07,679 Speaker 1: such a good I love her, honestly, I love Lisa. 1432 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:14,160 Speaker 1: That's a great auntie, so weird to just immediately call her. 1433 01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:21,720 Speaker 1: She's a great nanny. Nanny. She's a wonderful maid. She's 1434 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:26,280 Speaker 1: a wonderful maid. Nanny Tregar a professional comedian. I call 1435 01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,880 Speaker 1: her Nanny Tregar. There should be a movie called Nanny Tregger. 1436 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:32,240 Speaker 1: It's such a lovely time, the four of us on 1437 01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:36,920 Speaker 1: that pool diogue and don't say the four of us 1438 01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:38,880 Speaker 1: when also Joel I was going to mention Joel as well. 1439 01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,360 Speaker 1: Joel is also there. I'm Sabrina. Are you ready? I 1440 01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,360 Speaker 1: am ready? This is Sabrina Jolisa's I don't think so. 1441 01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,240 Speaker 1: Your time starts now. I don't think so, honey. When 1442 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,639 Speaker 1: I came on this podcast and then I immediately started 1443 01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,639 Speaker 1: talking about what celebrities were at the party, I felt 1444 01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,720 Speaker 1: pressure from you guys to say it immediately. I don't 1445 01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,120 Speaker 1: think so, honey. It doesn't make me look cool. It 1446 01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,680 Speaker 1: makes me look like a fool. No, I don't think so. 1447 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,280 Speaker 1: Do you not think so about rhyming there? I don't 1448 01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,800 Speaker 1: think so, honey. About any time that you get your 1449 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,320 Speaker 1: mouth moving and then start too fast, and then you're 1450 01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,320 Speaker 1: like Bradley on that beam about to jump off, and 1451 01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,720 Speaker 1: you're going the gravity is pushing you down and you 1452 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,680 Speaker 1: cannot stop yourself from the riff that you were on. 1453 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,920 Speaker 1: But you do not commit, You don't feel committed to it. 1454 01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,200 Speaker 1: You immediately already want to be just the girl that 1455 01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,320 Speaker 1: was at the party, and not saying that be cool 1456 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:28,600 Speaker 1: people were there, just that makes you part of the 1457 01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,680 Speaker 1: cool people like you feel outside of the coolness. If 1458 01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,519 Speaker 1: you say that they were there, you could have just 1459 01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,960 Speaker 1: blended in people saw the photos on Instagram. I don't 1460 01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,439 Speaker 1: think so, honey, you didn't need to do that. And 1461 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,280 Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. The way I feel right 1462 01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:45,960 Speaker 1: now vulnerable and that's but here's the thing. I think 1463 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:47,360 Speaker 1: it was super cool that you were at an out 1464 01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:59,280 Speaker 1: page party. Page Body and Ellen Page Body is Oh 1465 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:05,040 Speaker 1: my god, body on the page the page. She was 1466 01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:12,600 Speaker 1: so good. An inception throws Mike, don't break And we 1467 01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,559 Speaker 1: should mention that Tessa Thompson was also at the party. 1468 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,920 Speaker 1: But you're right about what if you didn't. I always 1469 01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:23,960 Speaker 1: feel included. I don't know because Canadian. Is it because 1470 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm a cute little baby. I think it's because this 1471 01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:30,560 Speaker 1: is last we we we we are the culture that 1472 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,479 Speaker 1: we get to the bottom of culture, and that part 1473 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:34,439 Speaker 1: of that is finding out who was at the cool party. 1474 01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,760 Speaker 1: You're part of the culture now. You have to just 1475 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,719 Speaker 1: name the thing when you see it. You are on screen, 1476 01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,160 Speaker 1: you're behind the scenes, you were on the creams, you're 1477 01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,160 Speaker 1: on the deadline cream. Oh wait, I want to I 1478 01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,519 Speaker 1: want to ask one thing about Diablo and yours, shake 1479 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,240 Speaker 1: Away what what? What can you tell us a little 1480 01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:55,680 Speaker 1: bit about what's going to be about? Absolutely not there 1481 01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:03,800 Speaker 1: you go, we can't. It's a multicam great, okay, it 1482 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:08,799 Speaker 1: is uh kind of based on a couple like myself 1483 01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,320 Speaker 1: and my wife. What if the in laws bought the 1484 01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:15,719 Speaker 1: house right next to you. It was everybody loves Raymond, 1485 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,920 Speaker 1: but just like you know my life. What if I 1486 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,880 Speaker 1: wanted the love of my father in law so much 1487 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,519 Speaker 1: that he didn't want to open up? And what if 1488 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 1: the mother in law wanted the love of their daughter 1489 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,800 Speaker 1: too much? And what if every time you got him 1490 01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:35,320 Speaker 1: home they were there and all the characters loved each other. 1491 01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,080 Speaker 1: They were broken, but they really just wanted the love 1492 01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,479 Speaker 1: of one another, but they just damn bought it in 1493 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,439 Speaker 1: the wrong way. Every time the act too drops, there's 1494 01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,879 Speaker 1: a lot of confusion and then act think everybody resolves 1495 01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,840 Speaker 1: a bit by necessary set every single week because you've 1496 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,759 Speaker 1: got to have a show because you gotta be great. Sorry, 1497 01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:05,880 Speaker 1: it's sorry, sorry, shot, and it's gonna be great. We 1498 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 1: ended on a song we always you know what. It's 1499 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,680 Speaker 1: because she got so wet for her own show that 1500 01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:19,760 Speaker 1: she slept right off. Interesting. Honestly, we can't pay you 1501 01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:22,960 Speaker 1: at all for this. That you were almost on the ground. 1502 01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,519 Speaker 1: Hall just referenced my I don't think so, honey. I 1503 01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:33,200 Speaker 1: was bradly reference, well, this has been a fucking barrel 1504 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,800 Speaker 1: as what a lovely, lovely time. I mean, listen, we 1505 01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:40,360 Speaker 1: talked to Coach, We talked um countries, we talked mulch. 1506 01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,920 Speaker 1: If you consider the baby rising out of the mull, yes, 1507 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:48,800 Speaker 1: if you consider we talked bold and to hot Man. 1508 01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:50,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god. We'll look out for Sabrina on the 1509 01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:54,000 Speaker 1: upcoming Search Party season. Yes, please do also check out 1510 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,120 Speaker 1: her Netflix comedy special to comedy Line. Now do my Instagram? 1511 01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:01,000 Speaker 1: I like attention. You can. You can find her on 1512 01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:05,000 Speaker 1: the ground like Wilfe. Just hard. Just if you see 1513 01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:06,840 Speaker 1: a picture of Wilf, give that too hard taps and 1514 01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:13,559 Speaker 1: comment la la lu ba la. We love you some much. 1515 01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,240 Speaker 1: Now before we go, I just want to us all 1516 01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,880 Speaker 1: to go because top about Mary. Everyone going out of 1517 01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,240 Speaker 1: the circle and say the hottest celebrity. Yes, Freddy is 1518 01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:25,720 Speaker 1: starting with um uh Matthew Fox. What do you know 1519 01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,040 Speaker 1: that I lined up to see him at Canada's Wonderland. 1520 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:34,479 Speaker 1: Never mind Canada's Wonderland as a kid, No, I had 1521 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:38,160 Speaker 1: seasons passed to Wonderland and that's where my theft really started. 1522 01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:42,880 Speaker 1: Uh were as a child. We need to get We'll 1523 01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:46,320 Speaker 1: get into this next time. Putting everything up my sleeves. Really, 1524 01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,000 Speaker 1: you were like a little pickpocket in Canada's Wonderland. There 1525 01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,799 Speaker 1: was no real police. It was. It was a utopia 1526 01:26:51,920 --> 01:27:02,160 Speaker 1: for theft, which is I'm don't steal anymore. I'm atty. Celebrity. 1527 01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:09,880 Speaker 1: Where where's my shirt? Jennifer Um, I can't be Hum 1528 01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:14,760 Speaker 1: Hottest celebrity, Hottest? Can you do it for us? Scott Wolf? Um, 1529 01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:24,519 Speaker 1: hottest Celebrity. I'm gonna have to go with Ryan. There 1530 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:30,879 Speaker 1: you go, Well look her up. Bye bye, guys. 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