1 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff's Three and Out podcast. Uh, 2 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: good to be a lot. You know. It really is 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: January fourteenth, Thursday afternoon. Actually usually record earlier in the day, 4 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: but I don't know it just I put it off 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: and then I realized, you know what, I have not 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: recorded the podcast. Luckily I put together a bunch of 7 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: topics really the last couple of days, so I knew 8 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: what I wanted to talk about. So it's, uh, you know, 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: a pretty good show. I'm excited about it. We have 10 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer accepted the Jags job. I think the first 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: coach obviously to uh, you know, to be hired in 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: the NFL cycle, right Lions, no Jets, no Falcons, no Houston, 13 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: no Eagles, no Chargers no. So yeah, Urban Meyer. Uh. 14 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Something I found kind of interesting on defensive coaches. George Patton, 15 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: whereas I like to call him General Patton got hired 16 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: to run the Denver Broncos and they gave him a 17 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: six year contract, and I have a couple of thoughts there. Obviously, 18 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: there's NFL playoff games. You know, the craziest part about 19 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: the month of January for the NFL, the playoffs feel 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: big and I guess if you're like a Packer fan 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: or whatever, you kind of thinking about it all week. 22 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of other stuff going on in 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: the NFL during the week, and then the playoff games 24 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: come and it's like awesome seven days a week content 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: for me. I'm not complaining. So I'll go through the 26 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: playoff games what I think and some of my thoughts, 27 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: and then and on something that hit me the other 28 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: day about college football and some overreactions that I think 29 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: are happening right now because people are acting like the 30 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: college football screwed up and the ratings are tanking. I'm 31 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: telling you it's gonna be all right here, very very soon. 32 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: Uh three and Out podcast. Go subscribe right, I need 33 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: you to subscribe to follow on Collins Feed. Also Middlecoff 34 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: mail back at John Middlecoff is the Instagram You're welcome to. Uh. 35 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: People always like you always say, slide in the d M. 36 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: Isn't that for girls? Yeah, it's a joke. I'm being sarcastic. 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: Come in my d M, S d M ME. I 38 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: DM people all the time. I d M probably fifty 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: people today answering questions and just random people trying to 40 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: book interviews. So it's like d M s H d 41 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: M ME slide text however you want to do it. Cut. 42 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: My d ms are open at John Middlecoff. But let's 43 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: start with urban Meyer, who now by the time of 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: recording this podcast is officially the head coach of the 45 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. I think it's how you say it. And 46 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: essentially he turned down the University of Texas, who you know, 47 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: five or six years ago or four years ago or whatever, 48 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: was prepared to offer Nick Saban ten years, a hundred 49 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: million dollars, ten million dollars per year. They had a 50 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: lot of money. Urban Meyer turned them down and Ohio State, Florida. 51 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: He would have done the same thing at Texas. He 52 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: didn't have anything left to prove in college. You know college. 53 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I would say the eighties 54 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: and nineties, you just made more money as a head 55 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. So a lot of coaches wanted 56 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: to go to the pros just simply because it was 57 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: double triple the money. Now the money has exploded. Erton 58 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: Meyer has been making huge cash for fifteen years. He 59 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: did not need to go to the pros for a race. 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: Texas would have given him an obscene amount of money. 61 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: He simply went to the pros because he wanted to 62 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: take a shot at the highest level. He wanted his 63 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: shot at Belichick, at Urban, at uh Andy Reid, at 64 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, at Pete Carroll, Sean McVeigh, Kyle Shanahan. He's 65 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: beating everyone that matters in college football. He has nothing 66 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: left to prove there. When I was in college football, 67 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: I aspired to get to the NFL just like players did, 68 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: just like probably coaches did, because I viewed it as 69 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: the highest level. And that doesn't mean there aren't great 70 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: coaches in college That doesn't mean that Nick Saban or 71 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley or whoever, if they went to the pros 72 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: couldn't hang. But I think most people in the sport 73 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: of football view the NFL as the most competitive, right 74 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: because the dynamics of how you build a team at 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: Ohio State or at Alabama, every single kid that I 76 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: signed in my recruiting class is would be the equivalent 77 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: of a first round pick won the NFL. Unless you 78 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: make a trade, you only get one first round pick, 79 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: and the more competitive you are, Like if you were 80 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: Ohio State or Alabama, your first round pick would be 81 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: at the end of the round, Pat Hill told me 82 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: I remember being a Prisono State, and he's like, you know, 83 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, because remember Frisdo State almost beat him in 84 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: their heyday, and we'd all that game would come up 85 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: a lot, and I think Pat like Pete, but he 86 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: also like hated us and he's like, listen, it's really 87 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: impressive that they're winning, but Pete and at the time, 88 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: he was basically the equivalent of Saban or urban Meyer. 89 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: Every single guy in his recruiting class is a five star, 90 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: number one recruit. It is much more difficult at a 91 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: lower level, right at at a Boise State to consistently 92 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: win than at Ohio State. Now, winning championships is hard 93 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: wherever you go. But I think urban Meyer wanted to 94 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: say I tried it. I think I'm good enough, And 95 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: I just looked up his record while he was at 96 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: college because listen, I've been hard on urban Meyer. I've 97 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: had a nickname before, called him fraud Meyer. The reason 98 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: I've called him fraud Meyer in the past is because 99 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: he always gets on his moral high horse and talks 100 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: about life lessons and molding young men while he had 101 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: gang members who were killing people at Florida, an assistant 102 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: coach who was like a mentors grandson who was doing 103 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: hudo is what with his wife, And so it's like 104 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: urban You talk a big game, but the people you 105 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: surround yourself ain't really living it well. You know the 106 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: best part about the NFL, No One, you don't have 107 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: to pretend about morality and teaching life lessons because the 108 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: NFL is about two things, money and winning games. And 109 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: you can put those two in any order you want. 110 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: We're in college and back to my experience at Fresno's State, 111 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: I remember Pat got a lot of pride about changing 112 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: kids lives, right, getting a guy from nothing, from the gutter. 113 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: Some of these you know, some of where these players 114 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: come from, they have nothing, getting him a college education, 115 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: putting them on a path to succeed, seeing them get married, 116 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: watching them own a business, watching them have success in 117 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: whatever industry they have. Because the majority of people, even 118 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: at the highest level of college football, do not play 119 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: in the pros. So the the influence a college football 120 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: coach has over every team has a hundred players, right, 121 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: eighty five scholarships and really hundred five twenty walk ons, 122 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: So you're influencing a boatload of young men that are 123 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: gonna go into society. And I think most coaches you know, 124 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: I know Chris Peterson does, Pat Fitzgerald does, hell, I 125 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: know Nick Saban. These guys take pride in helping change 126 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: people's lives, separate from all the guys that are gonna 127 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: go pro which clearly they take a lot of pride 128 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: in as well. But the majority of guys do not 129 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: go to the pros and definitely don't make even if 130 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: they get a cup of coffee, don't make any money 131 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: in the pros. Well, in the NFL, you don't have 132 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: to pretend that. So I hope Urban kind of drops 133 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: that stick, right, like, bro, you're just here to coach 134 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: and win and winning. He did, because when I look 135 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: at his record, he is a hundred and eighties seven 136 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: and thirty two as a head coach. Let me repeat that, 137 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: A hundred and eighties seven and thirty two as a 138 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: head coach. This number really stands out to me. Though. 139 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: He's twelve and three in bulls, so when the games 140 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: get big, he's ready to kick ass. And not all 141 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: those balls are national champion and ships. So it goes 142 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: back to Utah, it goes back to you know, Ohio 143 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: State in Florida some of their teams when they weren't 144 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: playing for the National championship. Urban Meyer's a big time coach. 145 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: And to me, coaching is a little like sales. If 146 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: you can sell, you can do, you can work in 147 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: any business. You're hirable, Like if you can be a 148 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: good coach and listen, there are coaches in high school 149 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: who would crush it in the NFL. Maybe they don't 150 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: know anyone, maybe they don't aspire to leave whatever. If 151 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: coaching is just interacting with people, teaching people, communicating with people, 152 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: I love seeing this. Like he's got no chance in 153 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. He doesn't. I mean, he's one of the 154 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: best coaches of all time. I see like Nick Saban 155 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: failed in the NFL. He went fifteen and seventeen. I 156 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: bet if he coached for five years he would have 157 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: been successful. You know why Nick Saban relates to his players. 158 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: There is something, so does Pete Carroll. Age doesn't matter, 159 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: Style doesn't matter. If you are a good coach, your 160 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: style works, whether you're an asshole, whether you're a nice guy, 161 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: if you're authentic to yourself and a good coach, Pete 162 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: Carroll style is dramatically different than Nick Saban style, which 163 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: is dramatically different than Bill Belichick style, which is probably 164 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: dramatically different than Lincoln Riley style. They all work why 165 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: because they're good coaches. Urban Meyer is a good coach. 166 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Now they're gonna be difficulties in the pros. First and foremost, 167 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: Like I said, he doesn't have a stacked roster, but 168 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: I think he can accumulate talent pretty fast because he's 169 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: got a good quarterback. He's gonna draft number one overall. 170 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: Another element that I think is gonna be challenging is 171 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: the coaching top to bottom is just better. Think about 172 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: his own division. If there was a draft from scratch 173 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: and just every coach became a free agent, and we 174 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: just did a lottery one through thirty two and every 175 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: GM got to draft a coach, Mike Vrabel would go 176 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: in the top ten. Well, he plays him twice a year. 177 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: Frank Reich probably go in the top ten. Two plays 178 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: him twice a year, So his division is low. I mean, 179 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: that's two good coaches with two really good teams. They 180 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: ain't going away, So that's a challenge. The other thing 181 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: in pro football, you lose even if you're a good 182 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: team four or five games a year. You also have 183 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: players go down. Unlike college, your roster is set. You know, 184 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: there isn't turnover, right, You're hundred five guys. You're hundred 185 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: five guys. If you get hurt, a backup comes up. 186 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: In the pros, you are constantly signing guys off the street, 187 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: elevating guys from other practice squads, bringing guys in on 188 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: a week and forcing them to start later that week. 189 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: You know, bring him in on a Monday or Tuesday, 190 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: and that guy's are starting Nickel Corner on Sunday. That 191 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: you do have to adapt to. That's why I think 192 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: it's very imperative for him to hire NFL people. I 193 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: got a text to day from an NFL assistant. What 194 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: do you think, I said, I think it's a pretty 195 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: good higher. He's like, well, you better hire NFL people. 196 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: Scott Linahan, who I'm sure Cowboy fans will be like 197 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: he sucks. That to me, is a good hire. Trent 198 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: Balky has been rumored to be as general manager. The 199 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: guy was a m in the league for like eight years, 200 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: went to playoffs, drafted Pro Bowlers. That would be smart move. 201 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: He's not gonna be able to be the GM. It 202 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: helps to have a guy with NFL GM experience, but 203 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: his his ability to coach is elite. That translates Urban 204 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: micret coach a peewee team, he coached an NFL team. 205 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna work. Think about his teams. He's coached Alex Smith, 206 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: He's coached Chris Leak, He's coached Tim Tebow, He's coached 207 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: Shotgun or twelve Gage or whatether guy's name is, J T. Barrett, 208 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins. Like he can coach anybody. His offense always changes. 209 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: He's like Belichick that way. He's very open minded. He's 210 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: not tied to a scheme. The other thing he's done 211 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: very very well over the year years is higher good assistance. 212 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: Dan Mullin has been his guy from the jump. Dan 213 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: Mullins a good coach. Tom Herman ended a little weird 214 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: in Texas. Tom Herman and a scrub that's that's an 215 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: urban guy. Like Ryan Day, another Urban Meyer guy doing 216 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: pretty well at Ohio State last I checked. And their 217 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: countless other guys that are head coaches all over the place. 218 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: My point is his track record of winning, of getting 219 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: the most out of talented players, and the reality is 220 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: every player in your roster does have some level of 221 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: talent in the league. Now, his just understanding of the 222 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,599 Speaker 1: players in the NFL. You know, they're guys in the 223 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: league are from all over the place. They're not just 224 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: from Power fives, They're from D twos, They're from you know, 225 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: non Nonpower five programs. You don't have a scouting report 226 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: on every player. You're not gonna be that comfortable with 227 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: all the coordinators in the league, so there is gonna 228 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: be a learning curve. My expectations year one are not 229 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: that high, but I am betting on Urban Myers succeed 230 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: simply because good coaches usually have success. Okay, I I've 231 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: been thinking this for a while, and I hate to 232 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: ever back yourself into a corner with just this is 233 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: the only thing that I would ever do, because it's 234 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: not smart to be like that. The right move on 235 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: basically anything in life, but definitely hiring practices, is to 236 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: be open minded, you know, not to be like we 237 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: need this type person, we need this, we need that, 238 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: but to just talk to the best candidates and see 239 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: what happens, whether it's a head football coach or whether 240 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: you're trying to hire a chef. I mean wouldn't you 241 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: just want the best. The thing, though, in football is 242 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: that offensive head coaches are just consistently more impactful over 243 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: the long haul on your franchise. Throwing Belichick out he 244 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: does not count. But I think when you look around 245 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: the league, offensive coaches who are head coaches and call 246 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: the plays are a massive advantage for any staff. I 247 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: think Robert Solo is going to be a good head 248 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. I've followed his career very closely. 249 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: He obviously coaches right down the road. For me, I've 250 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: watched the majority of his press conferences. I've been to many. 251 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: I've seen him at practices. I don't know him personally, 252 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: but I've i followed him as closely as humanly possible 253 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: without like knowing the guy, and I think he's a 254 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: really high level guy. People I know in the organization 255 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: swear by him. I've watched his defense the last couple 256 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: of years. He's good. I wouldn't hire him, though, I 257 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: would not hire a defensive coach, because the head coach 258 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: is the most important guy in your organization, and the 259 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: quarterback is the most important asset that you have right 260 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: on your football team, and it's the guy that eventually 261 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: you pay the most. Typically, if you're gonna draft one, 262 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: you got to invest a lot into it, and then 263 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: ideally he's good and then you pay him a hundred 264 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: whatever million dollars. That guy is influenced directly by the 265 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: play Coller and I saw Florio going on this rant 266 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: that Minnesota. I mean, Kirk Cousins is about to go 267 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: on his like seventh offensive coordinator in four years, right, 268 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's on how many for Russell Wilson Vrabel the 269 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: Titans are having success, He's potentially gonna lose his second 270 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in basically two and a half years. Lafleur 271 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: has been there, what two years? So if when Arthur leaves, 272 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: he'll have his three years coaching, he'll have four coordinators 273 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: or three coordinators. Excuse me, let me rephrase that. Rabel 274 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: next year will have three coordinators in a four year span. 275 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: It's a lot, and it's ideally you want to keep continuity. 276 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: But there's something to be said about Sean McVeigh, about 277 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: Andy Reid, about Matt Lafleur, about Kyle Shanahan, about Andy Reid, 278 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: Bruce arians like there the offense is their baby. I know, 279 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: Bruce doesn't technically call plays, but if he has to be, 280 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: easily could. And you never worry about because the moment 281 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: your offense has success, because the moment your defense has success, 282 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're gonna lose a coach. Look at Wink Martindale. 283 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: Look at Robert Sala, who as of recording this, I 284 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: think he's gonna get the Jet job, but I don't know, 285 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't. There's someone else. You have a great 286 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: defensive coach, he's not guaranteed to get a head coaching job. 287 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: You have a great offensive coordinator, he's gone. It's not 288 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: even a question. And then you're just immediately scrambling again. 289 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: Like the forty Niners this year are going to lose 290 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: Robert Sala, and they're gonna lose multiple offensive coaches potentially 291 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: who are gonna become offensive coordinators for other head coaches. 292 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: It won't impact the offense one bit. I'm not saying 293 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: that those guys aren't really good. And in a perfect world, 294 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan wouldn't want to lose Lafleura McDaniels. One might 295 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: go with Robert Salo and the other might go with, 296 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, someone else. But as long as I got 297 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. I'm fine last year the Rams and all 298 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: this turnover, and get rid of Wade Phillips, get rid 299 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: of offensive coaches. They Jean McVeigh, who cares like, that's 300 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: that's my play color? Think how many had Think how 301 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: many coaches Andy Reid has gone through in his career. 302 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: I think I'm any coaches Sean Payton has gone through, 303 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: especially on defense, doesn't matter because he's there. So when 304 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: I see the list and listen, I'm not trying to diminish. 305 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: Robert salis candidacy and I actually think he could be successful. 306 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: But what happens. Let's say they keep Sam Donald and 307 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: let's say he gets the Jets job and Mike McDaniel 308 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: from the Niners is his offensive coordinator. In two years, 309 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: Sam Donald's in a Pro Bowl. What do you think 310 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: is a lock to happen? Mike McDaniels get a head 311 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: coaching job, Joe Brady is getting head coaching interviews based 312 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: on last year at l s U. Did you watch 313 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: the Panthers this year. I'm not saying he's bad. I 314 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: like Joe Brady, but at one point time they lost 315 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: eighth three games, Like it's not like he had success. 316 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: Aren't they drafting the top ten? Offensive guys are in 317 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: such demand because they influenced the most important player on 318 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: your team by a by a wide margin. They called 319 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: a play, they coached the player. It's just I understand. 320 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: I can't imagine being a defensive guy. It sucks because 321 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: wink Martin Dale's going, We've had one of the best 322 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: defenses for the last couple of years, and we here 323 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: in defense of week Martin Dale's candidacy, ray Lewis, Ed Reid, Helodi, 324 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: Nada and Sugs ain't walking through that door. Their defense 325 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: is well coached. It's not like some superstar All Star cast. 326 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: I mean, they got some good players, but it is 327 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: nowhere near some of those Ravens defenses in our lifetime. 328 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: And I don't does he even get an interview. If 329 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: the equivalent was what Winked did on offense, the guy 330 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: would already be hired as a head coach without hesitation, 331 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: zero question asked. There wouldn't be one question, not one. 332 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: So I I understand it, and I think when you're 333 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: looking at it from an ownership or GM standpoint, it's 334 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: the most important continuity. Is the guy with your quarterback, 335 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: and the easiest way to do that is to hire 336 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: an offensive coach. So, if all things are equal, if 337 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm interviewing Robert Solo and Arthur Smith, and I think, God, 338 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: these guys are both like nines out of tens or 339 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: tens out of tens without hesitation, I'm taking the offensive guy. Okay, 340 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: let's get into something that it's just kind of been 341 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: on my mind lately. And any time that you hire, 342 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: you know, with a coach, when you hire Urban Meyer, 343 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: or when you hire Roberts Law or when you hire 344 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith, fans have known about those guys. So it's 345 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: not like, wait, who's this guy? Right? You've been hearing 346 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: these names, so it's not a shock to the system. 347 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: But when you hire a general manager sometimes you go, 348 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: what's this guy's deal? How long has you been in 349 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: the NFL? You just don't know anything about him, because 350 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: unless you're a GM, you're not really that famous. No 351 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: one knew who John Middlecoff was when I was just 352 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: a West Coast scout. Several buddies in my league or 353 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: that are in the league that I'm friends with, you've 354 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: never heard of. These guys are eventually gonna be jams 355 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: if they want to be. I mean, they're listen. I 356 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: might be biased, but I know a couple of guys 357 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: that easily there can't be many scouts better than Again 358 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm biased, but you know some of them got rings. Uh, 359 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: but you've never heard of him because it's not like 360 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: it's not like a backup player in the NFL or 361 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: an assistant coach, like you can become famous that way. 362 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: You don't really become famous being like you know, this 363 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: guy is the assistant director of pro personnel up and comer. 364 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: Unless you share an agent with like rap sheet, no 365 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: one knows you, which is fine, Like that's just part 366 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: of the deal. But the one thing that happens is 367 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: the moment a guy's hired. The articles that are written 368 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: about the guy are just glowing. I mean I read 369 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: some articles on General George Patton, the Broncos guy. Uh 370 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: that just I mean, he sounded like the greatest human 371 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: being ever alive. He was like a mixture of Tebow 372 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: off the field and like ozzyk Newsom meets Bill Walsh 373 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: with a little sprinkle of like uh of like ron Wolf. 374 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: That's how I would describe the way they these articles 375 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: that wrote about him. So just based on the articles 376 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: and like the Denver posts and some of the different 377 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: blogs and people tweeting about him, he's the greatest evaluator 378 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: ever to live. And that's expecting because we don't know anything, 379 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: and you're gonna not gonna write anything negative. Now, I've 380 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: I text a couple of people that know him. They 381 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: love them, so I'm not even trying to make fun 382 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: of him. But we're just like damn George Patton. And 383 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: this guy had been, you know, in the mix for 384 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: GM jobs ever since Chris Ballard got a job. I'd 385 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: say he was a guy that kind of had been 386 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: in the mix, had been interviewing different openings. He was 387 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: bound to get one. But I saw that he got 388 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: a six year contract, and my first thought was, that's 389 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: fucking insane. How many people in your life, in whatever 390 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: line of work you do, would you sign to a 391 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: six year contract. About of the marriages in this country, 392 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: which in theory is a life time contract the moment 393 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: you get married, and and you know, it wasn't that 394 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: long ago. The forty Niners they hired Kyle Shanahan, John Lynch. 395 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: They game each six year contracts, which was kind of unprecedented. Now, 396 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: part of it was they were desperate and John Lynch 397 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: didn't need the job. He was a millionaire and worked 398 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: on TV, so that he had them kind of bent over. 399 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: But I've seen more and more of these teams do this. 400 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: Why George Patton wanted to come for a four year deal, 401 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't come for a five year deal. Now, Listen, John 402 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: Elway has a good gig. He doesn't own the team. 403 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: He's spending other people's money. And I'm not trying to 404 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: talk about John Elway. I like John Elway. I actually 405 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: am one of the guys on Twitter over the years 406 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: he was like defending him. I think the team he 407 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: built when he first got there was really really impressive. 408 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: But they have ownership issues and he just handed out 409 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: a six year deal. Now, part of it is like 410 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: there's some issues going on, But when I see these 411 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: six year contracts, we don't. It would be one thing 412 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: if this guy had been a general manager before he 413 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: was like Ozzy knew something like, well, I know he's 414 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: gonna be good. We have no clue if this guy 415 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: is actually gonna be good. No different like Arthur Smith. 416 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith, the last couple of years his offense has 417 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: been badass. I watched the Titans. I go, this guy 418 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: kind of carrying Rabel these last couple of years, right, 419 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: because their defense hasn't been as good, especially this year. 420 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: You just what he's done with Tanney Hill, Just what 421 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: he does with Derek, how good he's made a J. Brown. 422 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: I just go, God, this guy is sweet. I would 423 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: I couldn't give Arthur Smith a six year contract. He 424 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: might be a good coach or he might not. Why 425 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: we have no clue? And I think the NFL now 426 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: listen that there's they've never had more money. And it's 427 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: not like, you know, given a general manager, let's say 428 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: they gave him three million dollars a year eight million, 429 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: you know, eighteen million dollars means anything to the franchise, 430 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: but it's not good business. Yeah, I I just I 431 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: don't quite understand it. And I liked what the guy said. 432 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: He called the Denver Broncos a sleeping giant. I agree, 433 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: because there aren't many huge brands on the West coach right. 434 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: The Niners, when they're good, are massive. The two l 435 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: A teams don't really move the needle. They're much bigger 436 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: nationally than they are in L a Seattle is like 437 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: had a tenure run with Russell before that they didn't matter. 438 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: So it's like the Broncos the Niners in this last 439 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: like Pete Russ's run. Raiders are like, what about us? Like, guys, 440 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: you guys made the playoffs once in eighteen years. Let's 441 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: just let's win a little before we talk. But these 442 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: six year contracts, how we saw it with Gruden, they 443 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: gave him a ten year contract if we had a 444 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: coaching like, who how many players? I even said with Mahomes, 445 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: I love faching Andy and listen, they had to do it. 446 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 1: But like do I love giving my homes a tenure contract? 447 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: And the reality is the NFL guaranteed money. I know 448 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: it's not truly a tenure contract, but still like I 449 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: like four and five year deals six years. The Gruden 450 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: tenure contract is a disaster. He hasn't sniffed the playoffs. 451 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: In year three, he missed the playoffs by three games. 452 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, they were close this year, No they weren't. 453 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: He went eight and eight. It took eleven wins to 454 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: get into the playoffs with an extra seed. If you 455 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: just pulled most Raider fans they would fire him yesterday, 456 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: but he's got seven more years on his deal. So 457 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: I get like, you have all this money, you get 458 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: excited to use it. It doesn't make it smart. And 459 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be like these owners should be stingy. 460 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: All these coaches and GM's are making huge cash, six 461 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: year contract six I don't understand it. Okay, we gotta Uh, 462 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: I don't know talking about these things called NFL playoff games, playoffs, playoffs. 463 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: Playoffs are here, and we got a lot of good teams. 464 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: I mean, we've got a lot of good players. Eight 465 00:25:53,920 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: teams left, eight teams left. Think about this. Four games 466 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: this weekend, two games next weekend, and the Super Bowl. 467 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: I'm no math major, just cal Pauly Frezle state guy. 468 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: A couple of state schools. That's seven games. Now. I 469 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: love the offseason as much as anybody who knows. I'm 470 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: not quite sure what's gonna happen with the combine. I 471 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: don't think really the league does yet. And I love 472 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: free agency, love the draft. Honestly, you don't even hate 473 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: off O t A S. I go to them. Uh, 474 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: they're kind of entertaining some of the stories, but the 475 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: games are like I like watching football and we only 476 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: got seven games left, so cherish these. You know, I'm 477 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: gonna watch every minute. I don't care if any of 478 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: these are blowouts. I'm making a pact. Sometimes, you know, 479 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: it's like in November and you're watching the game you 480 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: don't really care about, and it's a blood you just 481 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: kind of stop paying attention, or you start playing your phone. 482 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm gonna lock in. Not not that I 483 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: don't normally lock in, but I'm really gonna try to 484 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: save is the last football we're gonna have till you know, 485 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: September whatever. Well, I guess yeah, I mean, who knows 486 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: that maybe we never got the preseason again. Who knows 487 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: it could be a while. I'm gonna go and order. Basically, 488 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just talk about the game. The first thing 489 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: that comes to my mind rams at the Packers. The 490 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: Rams are six and a half point underdog. Now I 491 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: saw that they Sean McVeigh today ruled the Walford kid out, 492 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: the guy that got cooed and the stinger and went 493 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: to the hospital. He's not gonna play. Know this. If 494 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: he was healthy, this guy would be playing in this game. 495 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh does not want to have to play the 496 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: guy that he's gonna play in Jared Goff, despite the 497 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: guy being the number one overall pick and making you 498 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: know whatever, thirty five million dollars a year, Jared Goff. 499 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: It's just this year has not been very good. Now. 500 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: I have no he's a tough guy. He playing with 501 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: the broken thumb. But even before he got hurt, like 502 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, wanted to go with the other guy. Aaron Donald, 503 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: who's like one of the best players ever, is also 504 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: banged up. And the Rams defense has been fantastic. I 505 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: listened to I might have been wrong on Brandon Staley. 506 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 1: I gotta text my buddy who gave me some intel. 507 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: You know, I thought he was bad. Coach pretty good. 508 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: I heard a an interview he did with Peter King. 509 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: He's an impressive guy. I like the game, and he's 510 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: just been a really good defensive coach this year. But 511 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: the Packers have, you know, just from the eye test. Statistically, 512 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: I mean they got the m v P of the league. 513 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: They've been unreal this year offensively, so I I just 514 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: think that the Rams are in some trouble. They got 515 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: a big boy win last week, going up kicking Pizza ass, 516 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: but this is a different animal. Jared goff in the cold, 517 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: in the snow. I just I like the Packers pretty 518 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: big in this game. And even if their defense was 519 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: like Aaron Donald was fully healthy, I just think the 520 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: Packers have too much. I I just think the Packers 521 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: kind of are a team on a mission right now. 522 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: And just how good they looked late in the season 523 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: against Tennessee at Lambeau in the snow. They are so 524 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: comfortable in that environment. Can you imagine going from Los Angeles? 525 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: I went swimming today and I live in northern California. 526 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: It was sixty five degrees and sunny outside. L A. 527 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: Is warmer than it is where I am. How can 528 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: you possibly get ready for Lambeau Field? You can't. Aaron Rodgers, 529 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, kind of on a mission this season. We'll 530 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: get into who I'm hoping he plays next week, but 531 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: he's two more games away from kind of entering that 532 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: John Elway category as just you know, we I always say, 533 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: like John Elway is the most talented. He's got five 534 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl appearances, two wins. If Brady's the best in 535 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: Montana was the goat, and I think most people you 536 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: know Elway probably third Rogers ring away from three m 537 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: v p s two rings still kind of looks like 538 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: in the prime of his career. He got a lot 539 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: to gain these next three weeks, and I think it 540 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: starts by just kicking the kicking the Rams ass Ravens Bills. 541 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: This is a fantastic game one just the coaching connection. 542 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott got hired with the Eagles in the early 543 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: two thousands. So did John Harbaugh. John Harbaugh was a 544 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: special teams coach, but he also kind of expanded his 545 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: wings and helped with defense. He was a secondary coach too. 546 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: That's Sean McDermott's thing. They actually worked together. They were 547 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: both coaching the secondary I think in OH six, in 548 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: OH seven, and then he got the job in OH eight. 549 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: Hard Bob became the head coach of the Ravens maybe yeah, 550 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: I think it's OH seven. Then he became the coach, 551 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, in like January of O eight. So these 552 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: guys know each other really well. A couple Andy Reid guys, 553 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: couple hard nosed defensive guys. Uh. This game is just 554 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: fantastic now to me. The Ravens, they beat the Titans 555 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: last week when they run for two hundred plus yards 556 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: and Lamar's running for a hundred plush yards, they ain't losing. 557 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: So if you let them control the clock by Lamar 558 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: running around because he ain't throwing for three arts in 559 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: these big games, he's not, so you you're gonna keep 560 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: him in the maybe one fifty two low twos well 561 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: if he can make up that yardage. But yeah, he 562 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: threw for eight and he ran for another d forty. 563 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: It's like the same thing as Brady throwing for you know, 564 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: three thirty because he's accumulating a total of three whatever 565 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: yards and it slows down the game because he's running. 566 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: There's no incompletions, right, so the clock keeps going. And 567 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: that's advantage Ravens, where the Bills much more high powered, 568 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: explosive offense in terms of throwing the football. So to me, 569 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: if I'm the Bills, I want to get into a shootout. Now. 570 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: The Ravens defensive statistics the last couple of years. I 571 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: heard Lombardi going on this rant on his podcast about 572 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: Wink Martindale where they ranked the last three years, like 573 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: they've been fantastic. I kind of like the Ravens in 574 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: this game, and you know, I like Josh Allen, it 575 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: does just feel like I don't know, you know, the 576 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: Ravens last couple of years, Losome games the Chiefs or 577 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: I can't get the Chiefs game out of my head. 578 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: Earlier this season, remember when they play I think it 579 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: was like a Tuesday night and Mahomes didn't even do 580 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: that much. They ran it down the Bill's throat and 581 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: they slowed the game down. Now, Josh Allen was bad 582 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: in that game, but to me, if you could slow 583 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: the game down and not get into a shootout with 584 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, because the Ravens will not win a shootout. 585 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: That's not the way they play unless they're playing the Bengals, 586 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: and they kill them right when they play other good teams. 587 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: Why they've struggled right against the Chiefs against the Titans previously, 588 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: it's because like it's not their deal to throw it 589 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: on third long. But when they can dictate the terms, 590 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: they're good. And I do think the Ravens might be 591 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: able to dictate the terms a little bit to the 592 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: Bills because the Bill's defense they're just not as good 593 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: this year as they have been. Now, if Josh Allen 594 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: is fantastic like he was last week, they'll win. But 595 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: to me, he's probably gonna have like another a game. 596 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: He was really good against the Colts, really good against 597 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: the Colts, and I think week week Martin Dale's better 598 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: and Uber Flues and Uber flu is pretty good this game. 599 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I I can't wait. Brown's Chiefs, Brown's plus ten. 600 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: I think everything's gravy. Now they won eleven games. Stefanski's 601 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: probably the coach of the year. Baker resurrected his career. 602 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: I was hard on Baker and he's gonna get his 603 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: fifth year option picked up. Though, Like, do I like 604 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: paying Baker make Mayfield thirty million dollars? No? Is he 605 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: better than I? He thought he was a ten million 606 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: dollar quarterbacks He's probably like a twenty million dar quarterpick. Yeah, 607 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: he's growing on me. He's growing on me. But Stefanski's 608 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: play calling the run game Austin Hooper like their offense 609 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: is loaded. But to me, I don't care how shitty 610 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: the Chiefs played the second half of the season. This 611 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: is a different animal. Homes Kelsey, Tyreeke, Andy like this, 612 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: this is when they eat and think about this. The 613 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks for Andy, do you know what 614 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 1: he can show Hey, guys, remember last year when we 615 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: were getting our ass kicked and we had to come back, 616 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't it twenty four to nothing Texans? How 617 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: about this time we start a little faster. I guarantee 618 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: you this. They have emphasized the last two weeks, and 619 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: definitely two weeks ago before they even knew their opponent, 620 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: starting fast, not going through the motions. And they've been 621 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: going through the motions, and I don't blame them. The 622 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: playoffs are a different animal, and these guys tasted it. 623 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: They know how sweet it is to win the whole thing. 624 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: But you can't win the whole thing if you funk 625 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: around in the second and third round. Because they were 626 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: lucky like last year, they were on a team, you know, 627 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: just on a mission. Any coach would tell you if 628 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: you fall consistently behind in playoff games, you're not gonna 629 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: win them all. You will get clipped. I would expect 630 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: the Chiefs to come out firing. The Browns defense isn't 631 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: that great. I just think that the Chiefs are far superior, 632 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: and I just I kind of like the Chiefs. Minus 633 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: tend to be honest with you. It takes no thing 634 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: away from the Brown season. It was fantastic, absolutely fantastic. 635 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: You want eleven games, you beat the crap out of 636 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: the Steelers on the road in the playoffs. Like to 637 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: me that that is an incredible year to me. If 638 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: they can keep this tight, I'll be really impressed Baker 639 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: on the road fans are allowed in Kansas City, cold environment, 640 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: arrowheads a little different animal, even with you know, twenty 641 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: fans or whatever. But I'm kind of excited for this, 642 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: mainly because I just don't think the Browns really have 643 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: a chance. And then the second best game of the weekend. 644 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: So if I had to rank the games, I would 645 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 1: go Ravens Bills one, Tampa Saints too, probably Rams, Packers 646 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: three in Brown's Chiefs four. I love Tampa in this game. 647 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,479 Speaker 1: I absolutely love Tampa in this game on the most 648 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: on a big picture football history type, you know, moment, 649 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: you're getting Brady and Brees two. I mean, the greatest 650 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: quarterback of all time and another first ballot Hall of Famer, 651 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: basically the Steve Young of his generation. At one. I 652 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: think Brady tweeted like or maybe he said this in 653 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: the press conference. He's like, you know, I feel old 654 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: Breeze is eighteen months younger than me. One guy's forty three, 655 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: other guys forty one. It's just pretty cool if you 656 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: just love the sport of football, love star quarterbacks. I 657 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: guess it's a cool matchup for the history books. But 658 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: I think the Saints team is really good, and I 659 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: think that the Saints had a really good young quarterback, 660 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: they would be my favorite in the NFC. But they 661 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: have Drew Brees, who saying he shot is too much. 662 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: I mean, he can still function, but he cannot push 663 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: the ball down the field. I don't understand. Listen, I'm 664 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: not a coach. I don't understand how no one takes 665 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: away the short intermediate stuff. If you could take away 666 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: the short intermediate stuff and just corral Mar who's a 667 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: great player, they're not gonna be able to scoring you. 668 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: They're not gonna be able to do it. To meet, 669 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: Tampa's defense has to play better than it does the 670 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: first two times, and it's just an easy one for Arians, right, Hey, guys, 671 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: these guys beat the ship out of us last time 672 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: we played him. Hey guys, remember Week one when these 673 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: guys kind of beat us up to But the last 674 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: time we played him on Sunday Night Football at home. 675 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,959 Speaker 1: They molly wapped us, they embarrassed us. We have every 676 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: bit as good a players of them, if not better. 677 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: I saw Arians say, like Antonio the last couple of 678 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: weeks have become Antonio again, and I agree, last week 679 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: of the season and then that wild card game, he's 680 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 1: starting to look like the dude that used to dominate 681 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. Evans Godwin, you have the greatest quarterback of 682 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: all time who lives for this, and they got Gronk. 683 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 1: They got two guys who have been through countless I mean, 684 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: so you can't even count how many games they've been 685 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: through at this level. So the influence that they can 686 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: have helping some of the younger guys on the team. 687 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: Then you have a coaching staff like Arians has been 688 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: to an NFC championship game and he's one playoff games before. 689 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: I I just think the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as an underdog. 690 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: I took a money line, I put a couple hundred 691 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: bucks on it. Um. I just think it's their time. 692 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: I I have a hard time seeing the Saints beat 693 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: Tampa three times in a season, especially with Drew Brees 694 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: is being kind of men. Then to me, we get 695 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: potentially one of the all time great on paper championship 696 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: games m v. P. Rodgers against the old greatest quarterback 697 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,919 Speaker 1: of all time who threw forty touchdowns this year. Sign 698 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: me up for that. Like when it comes to the 699 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: a f C Championship game, Chiefs first, either team we 700 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: can't lose, I'll take either one. I want Tampa Green Bay. 701 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: I want to see Brady walking out in Lambeau in 702 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: the snow that I want that bad and I think 703 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna get it, okay really quick. On college football, 704 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: I read the National Championship was when the lowest rated 705 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: national championships in like decades. It was a bad game, right, 706 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,479 Speaker 1: It was a blowout. It was it went really quick 707 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: to Alabama, who which was a heavy favorite, very predictable. 708 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: And I see a lot of people d mnng me, 709 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: tweeting at me, and I see narratives on social media 710 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: like college football it's not fun anymore. It's the same 711 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 1: team winning over and over, same teams. Really, it's kind 712 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: of one team. The dude has seven national championships, so 713 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 1: it's like two thousand nine if you took Nick Saban 714 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: away and just gave that spot to just another SEC 715 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: team with Ohio State and whoever in their conference, Notre Dame's, 716 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: the Clemsons and Oregon. It would be pretty wide open. 717 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: There'd be a lot more drama because right now, Alabama 718 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 1: makes it every year and it's sure as hell feels 719 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: like they make the championship game every year. It took 720 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: a two injury last year to derail them from making 721 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Nick Saban is sixty nine years old. He's 722 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: not gonna coach that much longer. You take him away 723 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: from Alabama. They are not the same program. He is 724 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 1: the program now. He's in like the peak of his powers. 725 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: Right now, he's like two thousand Tiger Woods, you know, 726 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: or oh seven Brady, Like it's not even fair. He's 727 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: kicking everyone's ass. It is not a fair fight. Like 728 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 1: Chuck Ladell in his prime and he used to knock 729 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: guys out. He's you remove him the coaching parody, like 730 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: Davil doesn't beat everyone every year. Devil loses, not just 731 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: a Nick Saban. He just lost Clemson, for excuse me, 732 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: he just lost to Ohiuse State. Would you feel good 733 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: about Kirby or Dan Mullin or whatever in a playoff game? 734 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: Or Lincoln Riley those guys would get their shots, but 735 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: they can easily win or lose a game. It's hard 736 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: for all those teams to go undefeated every year. There 737 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: really is one. I mean, Clemson is in the mix 738 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: two and they're not going away, but they don't win it. 739 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: Every year. He's won seven national championships. Take him away. 740 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: The most competitive conference is wide open. Texas and m 741 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: would be right in the mix. That would help maybe 742 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: get two Big ten teams in. I think Oregon is 743 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: gonna be really good. There's there's never gonna be ultimate 744 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 1: parody right the country club that is the Power five 745 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: programs do not want the little guy in the in 746 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: their party. As long as he's at four teams Coastal Carolina, Cincinnati, 747 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: Boise State, UCF are never gonna be allowed. They are 748 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: never gonna get the invite. Who cares. I don't even 749 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: want to see them. Put them in a New Year 750 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: six pol But if you keep it at for and 751 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 1: Saban retires would again. And he's not fifty four years old, 752 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: he's sixty nine now. I don't think he gets tired 753 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: of winning. I don't think he gets tired of working. 754 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: But he's not gonna coach forever. So let's just assume 755 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: he's got two more years. I I do think the 756 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: moment he leaves now their team whoever got that job, 757 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin, whoever they'd inherit a really good roster. But 758 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 1: it ain't the same. It's just not I truly believe 759 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 1: that when Nick Saban decides to walk away that college 760 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: football will feel dramatically again with the ten plus teams. Right, 761 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: it's it's never been forty teams have a shot. It 762 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 1: is not March madness, where you know, probably twenty five 763 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: teams think they got a shot to make the final four, right, 764 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: and then once you're in the final four, hell, anything 765 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: could happen. The same group of ten to at most 766 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: maybe fifteen programs feel really they can win a national 767 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: championship at the beginning of the year, and right now 768 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: it's probably less than that. I mean, it's probably ten 769 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: might even be pushing it, right, I think. I think 770 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: the teams that get up in front of their squad 771 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: and start talking about that are four or five teams 772 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: in the SEC, Ohio State, Clemson, Notre Dame, and maybe 773 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: Mario starting to do it in Oregon. But that's just you. 774 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: You take away Alabama. I think it would start to 775 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 1: spread around the town a little bit because one thing 776 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: is he's he is doing a little bit like that 777 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: reminded me of Pete Carroll when he was at USC. 778 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: He's getting the best player in every state. So if 779 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: he wants a guy from San Francisco, or he wants 780 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: a guy from Maryland, or he wants a guy from Seattle, 781 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 1: he's getting them because he's Nick Saban. And if you're 782 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: that guy, why wouldn't you go play for Alabama? Nagie 783 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: Harris right down the street from me, Why did you 784 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: go play for Alabama? I don't know, because it's Alabama 785 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: and now he has two national championship brings and he's 786 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: a legend in college football. Of course he went to Alabama. Well, 787 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: if in five years, Nick Saban's been retired for a 788 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: couple of years, you know what the next Nazi Harris 789 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: might do. He might go to Texas and play for Sark. 790 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: Maybe Lincoln Riley convinced him to come there. Maybe he 791 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: goes to Ohio State and plays for Ryan Day, Maybe 792 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,959 Speaker 1: Mario or whoever's in Oregon does the full court press 793 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: and he goes to Oregon. But right now, when Nick 794 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: wants a guy, and those guys typically turn into pros 795 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: in good pros. Remember when the uh the talking point 796 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: used to be like I don't want to draft a 797 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 1: guy from Alabama. They just don't make it in the pros. 798 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 1: Look at Trent Richardson. That sure seems long forgotten. Because 799 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: every Gamma game I want I watch, I go. God, 800 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: they got about seven news they're gonna be Pro bowlers. 801 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,919 Speaker 1: I mean, there are guys immediately translate to the league. Now, 802 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: it's a seamless transition, like a Saban underachievers Amari Cooper 803 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: and he had like catches this year. I think how 804 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 1: many good players Nick has all over the league now, 805 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: and it's only gonna grow. I mean, look at this year, 806 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: Davante Smith, Jalen Waddle, uh, Naji Harris certain the corner. 807 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: I just listed four guys that are gonna go in 808 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 1: the top thirty five picks. Three of them are gonna 809 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: go in the top twelve fifteen. Maybe so we get 810 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 1: rid of Nick. I think Dabbo will become that. But listen, 811 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 1: I like Dabbo. He's not Nick Saban. He's not Nick Saban. 812 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: His big advantage as conference sucks. I mean it's terrible. 813 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 1: People love talking smack about the Pack twelve. I think 814 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: the a CEC is worse. Obviously, Clemson is way better 815 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: than anything in the Pack twelve, but when North Carolina's 816 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: your second best team, it's like, come on, guys, Miami 817 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:59,479 Speaker 1: Florida State like this at anymore. And I don't blame 818 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: Dabbo for taking advantage of it. As my friend told me, 819 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: he recruits an SEC player and he plays an a 820 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: CEC schedule. That's what's so crazy about what Nick does. 821 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: And you can be like, oh, the SEC is overrated, bullshit. 822 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: All the top players are in that league. Any of 823 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: the coaching can be hit or miss. But how many 824 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: great coaches are there in college football? Five? Most guys 825 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: are average anyway, Even guys that we think are probably 826 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: pretty good are a little overrated, and Nick dominates them all. 827 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: He was just almost a ten point favorite against Ohio State. 828 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 1: Get rid of Nick. Those days went. College football will 829 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: be okay. They just need Nick Saving to retire. Okay. 830 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna do the mail Middle coff mail back here, 831 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,720 Speaker 1: and I still am gonna bang out a couple of questions. 832 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: Robert Salo just got hired by the new York Jets. Uh, 833 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: got a bunch of stuff on the Havebrod middle Coff 834 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 1: YouTube channel. We just talked about Sala. I've talked about 835 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: a lot. I think he's a really impressive guy. It's 836 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 1: a a good hire for the Jets. My only pause 837 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: is that when you don't hire offensive guys in an 838 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: offensive league, and the quarterbacks the problem. It's just gonna 839 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: be a predicament for him. But in terms of leadership, 840 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: in terms of just intense, in terms of toughness, in 841 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 1: terms of what he stands for as a football coach, 842 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: in terms of how much players like him, uh, in 843 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: terms of just how enjoyable he is as someone to like. 844 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 1: I don't cover the team. I mean I just talk 845 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 1: about it, but I've been to several practices. He's a badass. 846 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm bald, so I root for other 847 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: bald guys. So actually, Joe Douglas is bald. Robert salis bald. 848 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: We got a lot of bald guys going in the 849 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 1: New York right now. And listen coming from the gaze 850 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: and Greg Williams, big upgrade, big upgrade, we think. I mean, 851 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: he's never been a head coach. That's probably unfair to say. 852 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 1: We'll see how he's a head coach, but I like 853 00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: to hire as I was told a year ago, what 854 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: type coach will will Joe Douglas look for? And I've 855 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: said this on this podcast, John Harbaugh, Leadership, toughness, a 856 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: big picture thinker. You know, that's what he was looking for, 857 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: and that's kind of that's kind of what he got. 858 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this guy is gonna be as good 859 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 1: as John Harbaugh, but that that's what he was looking for. 860 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: And that's the type of guy, the type mold that 861 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 1: this guy is. So congrats to the Jets fans. You've 862 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: got a real coach. Big fan of the pod. You 863 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: cracked me up sometimes cussing and ship, but you know 864 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,439 Speaker 1: what you're talking about being a former NFL scout, which 865 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: makes me always listen. Five stars. Appreciate that leave five 866 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 1: star review. Does Miami trade number three too? Uh? And 867 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: two second rounders for Watson? Two second rounders? That's I 868 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: need a little more than that to me the starting 869 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 1: price for Deshaun Watson. And I know there are a 870 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: lot of trades out there, and I've heard some some 871 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 1: rumors on the street that you can never discount it 872 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: with the Patriot guys. But I would say that the 873 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 1: starting price will be three first rounders, and TWA does 874 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: not count as a first rounder right now. I'd say 875 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: two is a second rounder, like that's his value after 876 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: last year. So I would say that no, not for that. Now. 877 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: Could he get traded? I believe he could do. I 878 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: think it's likely no, but I I will not discount it. 879 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: Uh trying to work through these d m s. You know, 880 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: Okay Brown's fan down in San Antonio, Texas, as Charles 881 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 1: Barkley would say, it's where those big women are. I'm 882 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: sure I'm not the only one that thinks the dog 883 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 1: pound has a puncher's chance come Sunday. What do you 884 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 1: see as the key? Aside from the typical keep away 885 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 1: from my homes? Also, a big listener of r J 886 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,359 Speaker 1: in Vegas says he's a fan of your style. Thought 887 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: it was a cool shot out. I'm a big r 888 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: J in Vegas guy, big fan. I I you know 889 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: what's funny. I have a bunch of family that are 890 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 1: just degenerate gamblers that listen to us podcast, and they're 891 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: all like, bro, r J just gave you a shot 892 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 1: out and appreciate that love r j uh. I would 893 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: say the biggest key would be for running for like 894 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 1: two fifty yards, slow down the game, and just not 895 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,240 Speaker 1: get into a game that's gonna be in the high thirties, 896 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,280 Speaker 1: maybe not even the high thirties, but the high twenties, 897 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 1: low thirties. Chub kareem hunt all day long, and that 898 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 1: when you can run it, then Baker canna have the 899 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: play action and you can win the game like two 900 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: to maybe not twenty maybe twenty seven to twenty four 901 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 1: because you just you know, you don't give him that 902 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: many possessions. That to me is the only way you're 903 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: not gonna win a shootout against these guys. They just 904 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 1: have much better players, just a better team. Like I said, 905 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think the dog pounds gonna 906 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 1: stay close. And I'm not trying to be a Brown's hater. 907 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm with everyone. Baker's playing well uh he he 908 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: is there. I love their coach Coach of the year. 909 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 1: This is the big leagues, though, Like you can have 910 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,839 Speaker 1: a really good season, you run into the chat, you're 911 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: about to see what the chance look like. And I 912 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: know they've struggled, but I still pretty confident in him, 913 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: at least against this team. I would like to know 914 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 1: your draft prediction on Kyle Trask. I think he would 915 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 1: be a good fit for Pittsburgh. Thanks, keep up the 916 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 1: good work. I'm not a big Kyle Trash guy. I'm 917 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 1: not a big fan of bad athlete quarterbacks anymore. And 918 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 1: he can't move and he doesn't have a great arm. 919 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 1: He reminds me a little bit of Nick Foles, so 920 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: I could not draft him in the first couple rounds. 921 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: To me, he's like a third or fourth round pick. 922 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: But the way quarterbacks you know get picked now, they 923 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 1: all get drafted way higher than they should. He might 924 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: go in the late first, early second, like I couldn't 925 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 1: do that. I don't know much about him. I'm gonna 926 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: assume he's a high character guy. Um all the he 927 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,240 Speaker 1: checks all the boxes off the field, so I'm not worried. Clearly, 928 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: he's a smart offensive guy. Can learn Dan Mullins offense. 929 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: They spread it out. He was throwing it all over 930 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: the yard. He was really good this year. But when 931 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 1: I look at a prospect from an NFL standpoint, he 932 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 1: can't move, move. I just don't see the arm strength. Uh. 933 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 1: His grettist attribute as a size did not start a 934 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: game in high school. Now the guy that started over 935 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: him is at the University of Miami. But still like, 936 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: that's to me a red flak. He couldn't beat the 937 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: guy out. Why because the other guy was a good athlete. 938 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm not in the drafting bad athletes 939 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: high I think it could be a just solid backup. 940 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,799 Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that. Listen to your pod you put 941 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,399 Speaker 1: out today, and I have a suggestion. If you think 942 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: the Bucks have good value to win the Super Bowl, 943 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 1: I would just bet them to win this week and 944 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: roll it over to next week first, assuming the Packers 945 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: and most likely Kansas City, and you will get like ten, 946 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: ten to one, eleven to one odds if they have 947 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 1: to go through the Saints Packers in Kansas City. I agree. 948 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: I put two hundred fifty dollars on the Tampa Bay 949 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: Buccaneers this week. If they win, I'll take that money. 950 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: Maybe i'll take if I win, I'll put five on 951 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 1: them against the Packers. I have a mail back question 952 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: for you. As a die hard Eagles fan, I'm getting 953 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 1: a little worried about how much Jeffrey Lury seems to 954 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: be involved with football decisions. Is this something that has 955 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: happened even when you were there with the team, or 956 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 1: since the Super Bowl has become more involved when I 957 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 1: were When I was there, honestly, we didn't see him 958 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: that much, you know, Andy and how he did everything. 959 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,839 Speaker 1: I can't speak to what's going on now. I do 960 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: think he's always been involved, like comes to you know, 961 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,320 Speaker 1: draft meetings or has free agent meetings, like he deals 962 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: with his general manager and coach. But I can't speak 963 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: to what's going on right now. I think the Eagles 964 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 1: have a Carson Wentz problem. Uh. Just hearing some things 965 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: about the way Carson Wentz has handled some stuff makes 966 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: me shake my head a little bit. I'm not gonna 967 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 1: say it right here because I don't have it like 968 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 1: double source, but I'm a little down on Carson. And 969 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,720 Speaker 1: you guys know throughout the leaks and some of the stuff, 970 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,399 Speaker 1: like but you're paid a lot of money to act 971 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 1: like a pro, and you know, sometimes in life, ship 972 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: doesn't go well and you had a disastrous season. That sucks. 973 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 1: You ain't the first star quarterback for that to happen. 974 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 1: Due suck it up, play better, stop complaining. So I 975 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,879 Speaker 1: think Carson wentz through a wrench in the whole Philly thing, 976 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 1: and I know how he's getting a hard time. Here's 977 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 1: what I will say. The reason Doug is no longer 978 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 1: there to me, the number one reason is the Carson 979 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: went situation. A guy they're paying like thirty five million 980 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 1: dollars next year is literally leaking his camp that he 981 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 1: can't stand the coach and wants to be traded. So 982 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: when the here's and also defend Lurie on this one. 983 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: When that happens, what the fund is the owner supposed 984 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,720 Speaker 1: to do? He didn't have a choice. Can't fire the player. 985 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 1: They're paying him too much. You can't. It doesn't make 986 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: that much sense to trade him. You can't get enough 987 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 1: back Doug. Doug had to go. It's just like Doug. 988 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,320 Speaker 1: I just think their relationship was done Carson and Doug, 989 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 1: which has nothing to do with the owner or the GM. 990 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: Now you can say indirectly if they forced Jalen Hurts 991 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: on them, but I had heard that Doug like Jalen Hurts, 992 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,359 Speaker 1: which might have led to the weird relationship. But I'm 993 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 1: talking in the draft process. But I mean a lot 994 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 1: of coaches like a lot of players. It doesn't matter. 995 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: It's like, Carson, you are the number two overall pick, 996 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 1: You've paid a lot. Who cares they bring a second 997 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: round quarterback kick his ass. I'm just I think Carson 998 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,919 Speaker 1: needs to just grow up a little bit. So yeah, 999 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean Jeffrey, I can't, I can't speak to him meddling, 1000 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 1: But I think the demise and the destruction of this 1001 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: year for Philly was the coach and the quarterback period, 1002 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: point blank, end of story. Now, there was a lot 1003 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: of other stuff going on, injuries, dudes playing bad, whatever, 1004 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: But to me, it starts there. The eagles number one 1005 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 1: problem was Carson and then his Him and Doug that's 1006 00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: their issue. So I I can't put that, like, what 1007 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: the hell does that have to do with like Jeffrey 1008 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,800 Speaker 1: or even Howie. Jeffrey is not going to the quarterback 1009 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 1: meeting every day. Jeffery is not calling the plays into 1010 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 1: the headset. Jeffer is not sitting at practice in the 1011 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 1: huddle with the guy what's the coach even how he's 1012 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,360 Speaker 1: there on the sideline, Like that is a relationship that 1013 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: is on those two guys. I don't know one person 1014 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,759 Speaker 1: that has ever had an issue with Doug like I 1015 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,320 Speaker 1: would say Doug is about is humble and as normal 1016 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,839 Speaker 1: as an NFL head coach in NFL history, especially one 1017 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: with a ring. I don't know one person that hasn't 1018 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 1: got along with him, not one, and Carson can't. Like 1019 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: maybe that's a Carson problem. Maybe maybe it's on you 1020 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 1: to be a pro and act. Say one thing for Rogers, 1021 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,839 Speaker 1: he's one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. They 1022 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: drafted Jordan's Love in the first round. Even people like 1023 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,280 Speaker 1: me kind of defended it. If I was Aaron Rodgers, 1024 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 1: I would have been fucking irate. I would have been furious, 1025 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,400 Speaker 1: and I think he was mad at first. He sucked 1026 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,920 Speaker 1: it up, zero public issues, no problems, had one of 1027 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,239 Speaker 1: the best years of his career. Everyone gets along in 1028 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 1: Green Bay. That's how you be a pro. Jared Goff 1029 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,840 Speaker 1: was literally just benched. He said it sucked, but I 1030 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 1: knew I had to be a good teammate. Came in 1031 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: and won the game for him in the playoffs with 1032 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 1: a broken thumb. He sucks. You don't hear him complaining. 1033 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 1: He was bench for a dude from the a F. 1034 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 1: Carson was bench for a guy that had just had 1035 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 1: been to like a national championship from Oklahoma and Alabama 1036 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 1: that was drafted in the second round. Jared Goff was 1037 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 1: just was benched and his team's winning for dude from 1038 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: the a A F not one issue. Jared Goff has 1039 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: never had an issue, no matter how crappy he's played. 1040 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: You know why, because a good teammate, good guy like Carson. 1041 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,919 Speaker 1: Are you a good guy or are you just like 1042 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: you have this on the exterior, you're a good guy, 1043 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 1: but you're kind of a me guy, because that's how 1044 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 1: it kind of feels from three thousand miles away, watching 1045 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,959 Speaker 1: some of the stories get leaked, watching Doug loses job, 1046 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 1: that would be my take. Again, this isn't based off 1047 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 1: inside information. You just gotta follow the crumbs pretty clear. 1048 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 1: When a guys like, yeah, my relationships fracture with Doug, 1049 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't think Doug leaked that out. It doesn't make 1050 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 1: any sense for how to leak that out. Pretty clear 1051 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 1: where that came from. If I'm not the starter, I 1052 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 1: don't want to be here. What do you think that 1053 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: came from? We just gotta put the pieces of the 1054 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,920 Speaker 1: puzzle together. And I'm a I'm a big Carson Wentz 1055 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 1: fan before this year, like I've always thought you had 1056 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 1: a chance to be like a great player, But you 1057 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 1: learn the most about human beings when times are the worst. 1058 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: It sucks to struggle in life. I've been fired before. 1059 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 1: Sure many people listening have had terrible things happened. It 1060 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 1: sucks professionally, lose a business, lose a job, file for bankruptcy, whatever, 1061 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: get benched. It happens. And whenever it happens, do you 1062 00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 1: know what? You gotta tell yourself. I'm not the first 1063 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 1: person for this to happened to I sure as hell 1064 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 1: won't be the last. The sun is gonna come up 1065 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: the next day. How do I carry myself? How do 1066 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 1: I conduct myself? Because I gotta move on. I gotta 1067 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: keep trucking. And does feel like I got some red 1068 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 1: flags on Carson's maturity in this whole situation? Then, like 1069 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 1: what I saw from far away? Why do you not 1070 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 1: see any quarterbacks under thirty five test? Free agency with 1071 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 1: modern sports medicine, worst case scenario is a dack situation 1072 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 1: who was poised to get well and pay this offseason Wilson, Rodgers, uh, 1073 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:36,439 Speaker 1: Watson hurry to sign deals with teams that don't draft well. Uh, 1074 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, I remember being in Philadelphia and I was 1075 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 1: driving around when I first got there, and it was 1076 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 1: like they were talking about whether to give Cole Hamble's 1077 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 1: a lot of money or not, and whether he was 1078 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 1: going to play out his last year and hit free agency. 1079 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 1: And I remember it was like Jason Stark or Buster 1080 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 1: only or it might have been like a former GM. 1081 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 1: And they called in and they said, I don't know 1082 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 1: many human beings. If you put a piece of paper 1083 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 1: down in front of him and hand him, hand him 1084 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 1: a pen and the number says a hundred and twenty 1085 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 1: million dollars that he's gonna say to himself, Yeah, I'll 1086 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 1: just play this year out and see how much I 1087 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:16,640 Speaker 1: get next offseason. He signed the deal. Most of these quarterbacks, 1088 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 1: they have a front row seat. Every year, two guys 1089 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 1: carded off the field, guy's careers end. Some of their 1090 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,840 Speaker 1: best friends. Think how long it's been since Shorty Nelson. 1091 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,439 Speaker 1: Shorty Nelson was drafted after Aaron was there. He's long 1092 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 1: gone and Aaron still there. I think how many players 1093 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 1: Brady saw come and go When someone puts money in 1094 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 1: front of you at that level, it's never happened to me. 1095 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,959 Speaker 1: I would imagine most people. It's never most people don't 1096 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:50,920 Speaker 1: get to sign contract with a hundred guaranteed When someone 1097 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 1: does that to you, though, I don't care how bigger 1098 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 1: balls are, I don't care how much you believe in yourself. 1099 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 1: You could argue would be negligent and stupid, did not 1100 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 1: do it, and I'm with you with modern medicine. But 1101 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,680 Speaker 1: it's more of just the one thing is a quarterback 1102 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: typically were most players, they get kind of thrown to 1103 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 1: the curb. Right, quarterbacks see every penny of their contract. 1104 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 1: So it's like the if they signed a seven year, 1105 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,800 Speaker 1: five year hundred eighty million dollars, I'm just throwing out 1106 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 1: random numbers, but the guarantee is ninety. Well, if the 1107 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 1: guy plays, and most of these quarterbacks do, they see 1108 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,600 Speaker 1: every penny of it. Remember Derek Carr signed a contract 1109 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,960 Speaker 1: it was like a hundred and thirty million dollars, seventy 1110 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 1: of it was guaranteed. We's been the starter every year 1111 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 1: since he signed the contract. Every single penny of that 1112 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 1: contract he's seen. Maybe not some bonuses or whatever, but 1113 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 1: like the get quarterbacks see their guaranteed money and the 1114 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 1: other fake money where the overwhelming majority, even good players, 1115 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 1: non quarterback usually have to restructure. Get cut after the 1116 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:03,080 Speaker 1: guaranteed moneys over just the way the league works. So 1117 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,439 Speaker 1: I just think when people put those numbers in front 1118 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:10,880 Speaker 1: of you, you just you take it. You know, it's hard, 1119 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 1: it's really hard to pass it up. Listen to the 1120 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 1: pod and always look forward. Bears fan here, I know 1121 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 1: Naggie as your boy, but how just how do you 1122 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,480 Speaker 1: justify keeping him in there another year. I'd like to 1123 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,920 Speaker 1: hear your take on this. My take would be simple. 1124 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,440 Speaker 1: I would have fired Pace. I would have hired a 1125 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 1: new GM and basically attempt to get a new quarterback 1126 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 1: and kind of give him that year to evaluate Naggie 1127 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 1: and then decide. Andy Reid called Matt Naggie the best 1128 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,959 Speaker 1: coaching candidate he'd ever had. He took over a job 1129 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,440 Speaker 1: and inherited a quarterback. The Chiefs. The number one guy 1130 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 1: on their board was Mahomes. Each loved him. Naggie loved him, 1131 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,680 Speaker 1: Andy loved him, Dorsey loved him. High level organization. They 1132 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 1: like Mahomes wouldn't touch Robiski. He came in and inherited Robisky, 1133 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,280 Speaker 1: who the GM had drafted number two overall in a 1134 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 1: draft with Watson and the Homes. So that shows you 1135 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:09,439 Speaker 1: what Pace knows about quarterbacks and still won that first 1136 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 1: year without him. Then last year, Trabisky fell off a 1137 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,960 Speaker 1: cliff and Fangio left and Chuck Pogano, like Chuck Bogango, stuck. 1138 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 1: So if you want to criticize Naggie, like Naggie hired 1139 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 1: the wrong guy, Chuck Bogano is not a good defensive coordinator. 1140 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 1: He needs to hire a better defensive coordinator. Right Kyle 1141 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 1: hired Sala McVeigh hired Brandon Staley, even when Andy made 1142 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 1: the switch to uh Spagnola. He's got to hire. But 1143 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 1: the quarterback is not his fault. What the hell was 1144 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 1: he supposed to do up this offseason? He went for 1145 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:42,959 Speaker 1: a guy that he knew folds and it didn't work. 1146 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 1: But that was like a short term band aid situation 1147 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,440 Speaker 1: to me. If they either draft a guy or can 1148 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 1: get like a Sam Donald, you know, get up. I 1149 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 1: guess they're not gonna get Matt Stafford, but get a 1150 01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 1: legitimate starting quarterback, a guy that a law percentage of 1151 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 1: the teams would want as their starting quarterback, or trade 1152 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 1: up in the draft and get a good player, then 1153 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,480 Speaker 1: I think you can evaluate him. But when Mr Bisky 1154 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 1: is starting the majority of your games. Mr You do 1155 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 1: know what Mr Whisky is. He's a backup, That's what 1156 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 1: he is, and that is who Matt Naggie has had, 1157 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, play with his quarterback. Do I have an 1158 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 1: agenda to bias on this one? Of course I do. 1159 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,400 Speaker 1: I know the guy, but like I'm not ready to 1160 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 1: just call him. I think Bears fans call him like 1161 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 1: the village idiot. He went eight and eight, eight and 1162 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 1: eight in twelve and four with Trubisky and a little 1163 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 1: bit of false Think about that. Imagine if he just 1164 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 1: had I don't even know, like a Jimmy garoppolo for 1165 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:49,960 Speaker 1: Jared Goff. He's fucking playing with m Robiskie and it's 1166 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 1: not his fault. It's just not. He had nothing to 1167 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,920 Speaker 1: do with it. He's not the gentleman. He doesn't pick 1168 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,800 Speaker 1: the players. Now. This offseason is big. I don't know 1169 01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,960 Speaker 1: what they do. It's gonna be hard. But like I 1170 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 1: think the Naggy experience, I blame the general manager much 1171 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 1: more than him, as he made mistakes. Sure did he 1172 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,040 Speaker 1: hire the wrong defensive coordinator? Yes he did. Was it 1173 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,760 Speaker 1: there gonna be a downgrade from Fangio? It was inevitable, 1174 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 1: But he aired Pegano was not good enough to make 1175 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 1: up for the quarterback play that he has, so they 1176 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,920 Speaker 1: just gotta find a find a way to get the quarterback. 1177 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 1: But I do think twelve and four, eight and eight, 1178 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 1: eight and eight. The way he's talked about in Chicago 1179 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 1: is like he's the village idiot. I've seen some village idiots, 1180 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 1: Tom Seula, Freddy Kitchens, you know, Helly Macadoo, Schermer. Schrmer's 1181 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 1: not a village idiot. But he's just not a good 1182 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 1: coach like I'm watching Naggy, Like not bad, he just 1183 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 1: needs a quarterback. Gets a quarterback, then I think he 1184 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:52,800 Speaker 1: can be properly judged. Appreciate everyone listening. Have a great week, 1185 01:05:53,200 --> 01:06:05,320 Speaker 1: audios see how soon s