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Speaker 1: On this episode of Newts World. As Chairman of the

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Speaker 1: Houseways and Means Committee, Congress from Jason Smith's top priority

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Speaker 1: is delivering for the working families, farmers, and small businesses

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Speaker 1: that make the American economy the envy of the world.

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Speaker 1: That's why, under his leadership, the Committee is traveling outside

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Speaker 1: workers first. Chairman Smith is partnering with the American people,

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Speaker 1: not lobbyists or special interests, to get America back on track.

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Speaker 1: I'm delighted to have him here. He's a good friend

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Speaker 1: Congressman Jason Smith, who proudly serves Missouri's eighth Congressional District,

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Speaker 1: which includes southeast and south central Missouri. Jason, welcome and

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining me on newts World.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me, Speaker. It is my

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Speaker 2: pleasure to spend some time with you today.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're an expert in this, could you just take

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Speaker 1: a minute and explain for everyday citizens exactly what the

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Speaker 1: debt ceiling is and why it's so important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the debt limit expires whenever you basically max out

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Speaker 2: your credit card, and that is where we're at today.

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Speaker 2: We had the largest debt limit increase in the history

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Speaker 2: of the one party Democrat rule of Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi,

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Speaker 2: and Chuck Schumer, where you saw ten trillion dollars in

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Speaker 2: addressing it, which is, you know, Speaker, the debt limit

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Speaker 2: of them. And the House Republicans. President Biden refused to

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Speaker 2: pass a debt limit increase of our own, called Limits,

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Speaker 2: Save and Grow, and we did that with two hundred

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Speaker 1: When you passed that in April twenty sixth, the Limit

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Speaker 1: President Biden and the Democrats were counting on you not

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Speaker 1: and really forced you into passing an unamended debt ceiling.

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Speaker 1: And as it is now, you clearly are the dominant

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Speaker 1: So you really have, in an amazing way, taken the

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Speaker 1: is work requirements for welfare, which, as you remember, when

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Speaker 1: Could you expand on that?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you led the way when you were Speaker in

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Speaker 2: addressing some of the loopholes that were in Tannis, which

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Speaker 2: So pretty excited about it. But I wanted to point

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Speaker 2: If they could pass it, they would pass it. Even

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Speaker 2: Believe me, if they could pass it, Senator Schumer would

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Speaker 2: put it on there. You were talking about the forty

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Speaker 1: Well, it was very striking that Democrat Senator Mansion, the

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Speaker 1: that's fascinating, again just a sign of how strange the

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Speaker 1: the things that your Limit Saved Growac cuts out, is

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Speaker 1: Can you comment on that for a minute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. In the Limit Saved Grid Act, it does numerous things,

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Speaker 2: It also does the spending caps over a ten year

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Speaker 2: reverses the eighty billion dollars to the IRS the eighty

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Speaker 2: in passing the Limit Save Grow Act is more than

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Speaker 2: half of the Republican conference had never voted for a

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Speaker 2: In ten years that I have served in Congress, I

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Speaker 2: Speaker McCarthy has said he wants to get our fiscal

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Speaker 2: you can't do that by just doing a blank check

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Speaker 2: debt limit increase. And that's what we're trying to do.

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Speaker 2: We're just trying to get the White House to negotiate

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Speaker 1: I have met with the Budget Committee chairman, and it's

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Speaker 1: cutting spending, and you are probably going to bring into

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Speaker 1: play a very significant part of that, starting with work requirements,

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Speaker 1: but going on to a number of other areas. What

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Speaker 2: You know, speaker to everyone's goal to get to a

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Speaker 2: Washington do the same thing? And as you know, balancing

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Speaker 2: which is great. That's exactly where we need to get

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Speaker 2: But the way that you do that, you got to

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Speaker 2: Nacy Pelusian, Chuck Schumer has increased spending of ten trillion dollars.

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Speaker 2: We got to reverse that.

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Speaker 2: My very first committee hearing as Chairman of the Ways

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