1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: John everything with the organization. 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 2: I'm curious. I think some fans it's hard to know 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: what a CEO coach does. You know, some coaches call plays, 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: some coaches don't. I think in a way, maybe the 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: last month is a good example of it. So I'm curious, like, 6 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: how would you explain not just hiring of coaches and everything, 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: but overall the approach to renovating all these parts of 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: an organization while still keeping the brand. 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: I'm curious how you'd explain kind of what you've done. 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: I think just trying to build how we're going to operate, 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: you know, trying to build what we're going to become 12 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: and organizing the way that we can be our very best. 13 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 3: And that's really what it bloils down to. You try 14 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: to build a system and an operation that can be 15 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: its best. It's a it's a tough league, you know, 16 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 3: it's very competitive. It's a really fine line. I mean, 17 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: the margins are tight between winning and losing and having 18 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: a good day and all those kind of things. So 19 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: what we're trying to do together is as a group, 20 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: is just build the best football operation that we possibly 21 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: can and out of that, you know, create the best 22 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: football team that we can, you know, then prepare the 23 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: team and then go play the games and see how 24 00:00:59,040 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: we do. 25 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: To eighteen of these before work as a head coach. 26 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: You're probably you've been to eighteen of these before as 27 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: a head coach. 28 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: Probably fairly old team. You know what's gonna happen? Does 29 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: it feel different this year? You're wearing different you know 30 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: it's singing me a different team? Is it different? Definitely? 31 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: Definitely a different color pattern, no doubt about it. You know, 32 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: that's been good. If I kind of enjoyed that. I 33 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: appreciate that I was gonna take this off. You know 34 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: you can you can see the logo a little better, right, 35 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: you know that's a good thing. So it's exciting, you know, 36 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 3: it's fun. I really I feel energized. 37 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: Always do. Whenever you come to Indy. You feel energized. 38 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: I mean, you you get a chance to get around, 39 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: you see the players, you have the interviews, you see 40 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: the coaches, you see the gms. You kind of size 41 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: up your competition. I mean, let's be honest. You know 42 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 3: it's competitive, you know, and you get a chance to 43 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: kind of take a look at who's doing what and 44 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: how they're trying to do it so that that never 45 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: changes the fact that it's with the Giants now instead 46 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: of the Ravens. Is is what it is, you know, 47 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: and I'm excited about it. I mean, I'm I'm I'm 48 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,639 Speaker 3: thrilled have the opportunity to represent the New York Giants 49 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: and uh, we're just really going to work and that's 50 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: really what we're doing, uh. 51 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: To be the very best we can be. You know, 52 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: it was an opportunity. 53 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: I've known Dawn for many years, uh through the league circles, 54 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: and I've worked with her on different different projects and 55 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: things like that. Nothing but the utmost respect for and 56 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: when it became, you know, a parent that she was 57 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 3: interested in this particular job, uh, it was obvious that 58 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: she was the perfect fit for what we were trying 59 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: to do. So, Uh, she makes us better, she gives 60 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: us a chance to be our very best, and it's 61 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: been great working with her so far. 62 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: McDonald's I have it went great. 63 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: It was a big hug, you know, congratulations and uh 64 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: he's all smiles right now. 65 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: Can't imagine why, you know, and well deserved. 66 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: Proud of Mike. Uh, one of one of you know, 67 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 3: one of my favorite people, Steph. He's even even I 68 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: like Steph even better than Mike obviously, and uh, you 69 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: know who doesn't. Who knows Stephan Mike, But yeah, Mike's 70 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 3: Mike's amazing. And to see that happen for them, the 71 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 3: type of team they build, I guess probably more than anything, 72 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: is really kind of studying the type of team that 73 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 3: they built. He and Leslie Frasier, you know, as partners 74 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: that on that process. Jay Harbaugh a part of that too. 75 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 3: Seeing the team that they've built is reflective. I would say, 76 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: for sure, the team that we want to build in 77 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: New York. 78 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: We've done, what's the thought process behind like video and 79 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: analytics and those departners reporting to her. 80 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's integration, you know, the thing that you come 81 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: to understand over all these years. You know it's probably 82 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: true for really any organization that you've got to be 83 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: aligned and you've got to be integrated, and everybody's got 84 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: to be working together. 85 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: There's got to be. 86 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: A shared understanding, a vision of what you're trying to accomplish. 87 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: There's got to be a shared understanding of who you are, 88 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: what you stand for, what the values are of how 89 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: we're going to get there, what our plans are that 90 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: takes constant communication. He's got to be flat, has got 91 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: to be working together. The idea that there's there's too 92 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: much hierarchy or silos or separate fences and things like 93 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: that just can't be a part of it, not in football, 94 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: not in anything. So someone like Don helps Joe and I, 95 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: you know, the three of us really working together to 96 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: make sure that all of our systems are integrated. So 97 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: whether it's uh, you know, analytics, which is an area 98 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: that we bolstered up quite a bit. If you look 99 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: at the staff, whether it's a performance uh and medical 100 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: which is an area that we bolstered up and tried 101 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 3: to tie together. Grounds, fields, all of it, you know, video, 102 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: all of it, coaching, scouting, pro college, all of it. 103 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: It's all got to be integrated, and it's got to 104 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: be uh, it's got to be aligned. So Don is 105 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 3: someone that helps us do that. That's not that's a 106 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: that's a multi person job. So between Joe, I and Don, 107 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: I think we get a chance to do that. And 108 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: then ownership is a huge part of that. And we 109 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: have great owners We've got great families involved, and they're 110 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 3: on there, they're they're they're the dome over all of us, 111 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: you know, tied it up all together to uh, to 112 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: represent what the giants are about, what they've always been about, 113 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 3: based on the marriage and the Tishes and now the 114 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: Coochs and their vision for the for the organization. With 115 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: everything's about Steve Tish, does that changer you say it again. 116 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: And everything's about with Steve Tish? Does that change this? 117 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: You? 118 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: You ever, John Township have great respect for the ownership. 119 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: If all the people have gotten to meet John and 120 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: Steve and and UH and Chris Merra and John Tish 121 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 3: and Carolyn Tish and the Koch family have been nothing 122 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: but great conversations, great interactions. And we've been talking about 123 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: the business of football, you know, the business of building 124 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: our team, Uh, the business of putting staffs together, all 125 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: the things that we're talking about with the integration that 126 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: you just asked about. That's what our conversations have been about. 127 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: John during this process. 128 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 5: What are some traits that you look for to fit 129 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 5: your locker room in the prospects? 130 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 4: Uh? 131 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: Well, they got to love football. We we talked about 132 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 3: that the opening press conference, right. I mean, you want 133 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: a bunch of people that understand. 134 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: That that's what we're here for. 135 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: And Uh, that can can fit the type of the 136 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: team we want to play the values that we're looking for. 137 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 3: We want good, tough, hard nosed players that want to 138 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: play hard. That our team first type. People that like 139 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 3: every part of football meetings, weightlifting practice, you know, the preparation, 140 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: like being around the guys and the gals who are 141 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: involved in it. 142 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: You know, they want to go out during Sunday and 143 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 1: let it rip. That's what we're looking for on those lines. 144 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: When you got to Baltimore in two thousand eight, when 145 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: you left to take me five, did your definition of 146 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: like what. 147 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 4: It meant to play like che substantially in between those years? 148 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: Can you say it again, Jonas, did your definition of evolved? 149 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: As Jesse was talking. 150 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: About new age play like ano I got you, I 151 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 3: would say it has evolved. 152 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: You know, it's sure it should evolve. Right. 153 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: The principles of what it is, the the uh, the 154 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: hardcore truth of what it means haven't changed one bit. 155 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: You know, those things are exactly the same. 156 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: Uh. The methods that are involved, and the way we operate, 157 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: how we've done things, what we value sometimes, how we 158 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 3: approach different problems and things like that definitely evolves, you know, 159 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: and then you operate differently, not just like over time, 160 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: but like in circumstances. 161 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: You know that you got to treat circumstances how you 162 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: find them. 163 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: You guys know the challenge you've had. You guys lived 164 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: in with us and you saw us walk through those 165 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: things and you were part of that too. 166 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: And the people that you're dealing with, right. 167 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 3: Because everybody's a little bit different, you know, everybody comes 168 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: from a different place trying to operate in all those 169 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: types of circumstances and people in situations in a way 170 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: that's effective. 171 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: So that's always evolving. 172 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, when you come here through your years, come to 173 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 5: the combine, is there something that for you personally that 174 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 5: when this ends the end of the week that you 175 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 5: have to come out of here? 176 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: Is there a favorite part the things that you know 177 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: personally that you want to get out of this experience? Right? 178 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: There probably three things. One thing is the part that 179 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: I think Joe spoke to earlier is the is you 180 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: do learn a lot about the free agent landscape, you know, 181 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: so we'll come out of this week understanding the free 182 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: agent landscape a little bit better because there's conversations that happen, 183 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: you know, behind the scenes and I'm not having those conversations. 184 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: Jod does a great job of that, so I'll be 185 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: interested to hear how that stuff all goes. Uh, the 186 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: interview process is a big part of it. Just just 187 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: getting to know the players a little bit better, you know, 188 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: That's a big part of it. And then just just 189 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: just being a part of it, you know, walking from 190 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: one place to the next and running into people who 191 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 3: are colleagues and friends. Ran to Leslie and Steve Spagnole 192 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: at lunch today, you know, had chance to see them. 193 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: You know. You kind of cherish that part of it too. 194 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: So I'd say those three. 195 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: Things guyants in Boston, like how much working is there 196 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: to be Dollard? 197 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: What are the biggest needs? Not good? There's tons of 198 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: work to be done. I mean it's not just the Giants. 199 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I promise you every single team there's like 200 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: loads and loads, heaps and mountains of work to be done, 201 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: you know, and we dig in. Another thing I do 202 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 3: here is I watch tape. So I'll spend a lot 203 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: of time. I'll spend a lot of time watching the 204 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: workouts because those are on tape. So I spend my 205 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 3: time in my room, have an office setup. I'm watching 206 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: college tape because I need to get caught up and 207 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 3: get ahead on seeing all the prospects. So, uh, yeah, 208 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: there's a lot of work to do. 209 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 5: John, Mike Thomas backs, it's your reaction to Mike stepping us. 210 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, just nothing but respect and admiration, you know, and 211 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: uh for what he's done. 212 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: What a what. 213 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 3: A what a worthy I mean, I feel I feel 214 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: just honored to be a part of that, you know. 215 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 3: And uh, the thing about Mike and the thing makes 216 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: him such a great coach, is that you know what 217 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: to expect from his teams. 218 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: You know. 219 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: It's not teams don't play the way they play because 220 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steels aren't the Pittsburgh Steelers because of the because 221 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 3: they're in Pittsburgh, or because they wear black and gold, 222 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: or because they have a nickname that's tough and steely, 223 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: you know, or or because of anything other than the person. Now, 224 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: to the people that are running the program, Mike has 225 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 3: been the face of that organization. They've got a lot 226 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: of great people that have worked hard and do a 227 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: great job. But that team reflects Mike Tomlin. You know, 228 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 3: they reflected Bill Cower before that, and Bill Kauer was 229 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: one of the greatest coaches in the history of football, 230 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: right Chuck Noele before that, one of the greatest coaches 231 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: in the history of football. 232 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: Boom, boom, boom. Now Mike Tomlin. 233 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: So I got to be across from Mike Tomlin for 234 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: eighteen years. Uh and some heated battles, you know, and 235 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 3: uh and you always knew what you were going to 236 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: get because it was a Mike Tomlin coach football team. 237 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: And I admire that very much. How would the Giants 238 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: reflect a John Hoglall. We've spoken on that a lot. 239 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: You know, you're you'll you'll see, you'll. 240 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: See sort of advice to give a first time head coach, 241 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 3: that's a really big question right there. I would say, 242 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 3: first of all, be yourself and then make sure you 243 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 3: understand and you and you and you stick to what 244 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: you believe in and what you stand for. You know, 245 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: make it clear what those things are so everybody else knows. 246 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: You've mentioned could Yeah, over the last few years that. 247 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,359 Speaker 2: You've been an effort to have minority coaches in her quarterback. 248 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 5: Really and we had team marking in Baltimore. 249 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: Can hand a lot of success with LaMura Jackson, and 250 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 2: now he does not have an NFL job. 251 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 5: Right I'm curious did you consider him for offensive cordator 252 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 5: in New York or for quarterback coach in New York? 253 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: And do you have any overall thoughts on where they were. 254 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: Why this pipeline chief from quarterback coach for some of 255 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: those minority coaches on up is just not marketing right now? 256 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: Really big question, many layered and complicated, and I really 257 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: probably don't have a great understanding of of the of 258 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: the big dynamics on all that. But what I can 259 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: can tell you that we had great coaches in Baltimore. 260 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: You know, we have great We had great coaching staffs, 261 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: and they were very diverse coaching staffs, And it was 262 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: always about It's not that you don't think about that 263 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: because you try to think about every aspect of hiring. 264 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: But really what I was about was hiring the best coaches, 265 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: whether it's whatever type of background or format it might be. 266 00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: We had. 267 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: We've had a lot of women on our coaching staff. 268 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 3: We've had very diverse candidates in every kind of way. 269 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 3: And you know, to your specific question, T Martin is 270 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: a great football coach, a great man, and a great friend. 271 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: I love his family. Uh, he's a great family man too, 272 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: and it was just a joy to work with him 273 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 3: all the time. And he and I have had a 274 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: lot of these kinds of conversations back and forth. We've taught, 275 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: we've spoken a few times since, you know, and just 276 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: trying to find the right fit and help him whatever 277 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: way I can, uh. And that's what we did with 278 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 3: the Giants too, And that's how we put our staff 279 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: together this time, kind of for what we're what we're required, 280 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 3: and who was available. 281 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: And those kinds of things. 282 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: So I don't doubt for one second that tem Martin's 283 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: gonna land on his feet and he's gonna do really 284 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 3: well because he's a great coach and a great person. 285 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 3: So I expect that to happen, and he's gonna do well. 286 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: You'll see, he'll do really well. 287 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 4: Hey, coach, what excites you about this three headed mansa 288 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 4: that you kind of put together on the offensive coaching staff. 289 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: You know, with your coordinators in a different roles. 290 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, having so many former head coaches in the building 291 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 4: all working on the offensive side. 292 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: Of the ball, three headed monster. I like that, you know, 293 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: it's a three minute, three headed coaching monster. They I'm 294 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: excited about the staff I think those three guys you're 295 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: talking about are like high level guys. I mean, these 296 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: are proven, proven coaches. And now the key thing is 297 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: the integration of that, you know, making sure that we're 298 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 3: organized and that we're we're building something that we can 299 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 3: we could chair together. And like I told him, we're 300 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 3: not trying to We're not carried over a system from 301 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 3: Kansas City or from Tennessee or Cincinnati or San Francisco 302 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 3: or Baltimore. You know, we're building the New York Giants 303 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: systems and the same thing on offense. We're gonna build 304 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: a system that fits what we're trying to accomplish terminology wise, 305 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: concept wise. 306 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: And so I really like. 307 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: The guys who are doing the building, you know, the 308 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: three monsters that are that are leading that up and 309 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 3: all the other coaches too. I'm thrilled to have those guys. 310 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: Kind of goes back to the earlier question. You try 311 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 3: to build the best staff you can because you've got 312 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 3: to be your best, and I feel like we've done that. 313 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 5: We talked about Jess into a lot of what he's 314 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 5: notable a long time. Obviously, Eric had said, you know, 315 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 5: thinking back to those early days, he couldn't have been 316 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 5: vision and you know, as a kind of a head 317 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 5: coach and when he was a kind of entry leveled assistant. Curiously, 318 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 5: what did you seem from Jesse like the biggest difference 319 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 5: in those early days to now. 320 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I don't know if I if I 321 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: could say what the difference is. 322 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I've known Jesse since he was a kid, 323 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: and uh and uh, I just know he always had 324 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: a passion and for football. 325 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: He had a great, great way about him. 326 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: You know, even even back then, and when he first 327 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: came to Baltimore, he wasn't inexperience. He'd been a defensive 328 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: coordinator in college at that point. Uh, he's a coach's kid. 329 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: Rick Minner is one of the smartest coaches that I've 330 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: ever been around. Had a chance to work with and 331 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: for Rick for three years. I still talk to him 332 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: all the time. 333 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: Uh and uh. And Jesse's part of that him. He 334 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: grew up with that. It's it's in his DNA, it's 335 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: in his blood. 336 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: So you know, that's that's an advantage and he always 337 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 3: kind of had that. He grew up with that. He 338 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: was always ahead that way, I would say. But then 339 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: he's his own man. You know, he worked hard. He 340 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: was his own man Baltimore when he was young, when 341 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: he worked his way up to the safety's coach, he 342 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: was his own man. Got the opportunity to go be 343 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: a coordinator, was his own man, and then was with 344 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: gym those years and did did what he did, and 345 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: now he gets his opportunity to be a head coach 346 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: in a great place. So, uh, I have nothing but 347 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: love and respect for him. You know, I think he's 348 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: he's ready. John. 349 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 6: You've talked a lot about the history of the New 350 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 6: York Giants or Football Giants. Those Giants stopped the run. 351 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 6: Kind of a struggle here the Giants do that recently. 352 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 6: Is that a personnel thing? Is that a mindset thing? 353 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 6: How do you get the Giants to stop the run 354 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 6: this year? 355 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 5: Well? 356 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: We better, you know. I mean, it's it's it's a 357 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: it's a must thing. I can tell you that it's 358 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: it's it's you know, there's a lot to it. 359 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: There's there's three levels and layers to your defense, and 360 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: all three layers and levels I've got to be I've 361 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: got to be committed to and incorporated and stopping the run, 362 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: no doubt. I mean, every single every one of the 363 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: eleven guys has got to be committed to stopping the run. 364 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: Can't let people run all over you. There's no doubt 365 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: about it. It's been important, it's been important. It's been 366 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 3: important in football since football started. So that's gonna be 367 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: where it starts. It's gonna be. It's gonna start with 368 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: stopping the run. Honestly, it's gonna start with running the football. 369 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: And once you can establish that you can do those things, 370 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: then it gives you a chance to open up the 371 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: playbook and do whatever you want. 372 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: Your guy, none of what, never live in the past 373 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: kind of guy. But you know that the NFL officiatings, 374 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: that's one of the instants. 375 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 5: Recently reviews when they'd like to overturn. 376 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: Isaiah Likes play in. 377 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 5: The hand zone against the Steelers and cooled in and 378 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 5: some people thought it was a touchdown. 379 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: I think it really you why so. 380 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 4: I think the NFL was saying it. 381 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: Should have been a touchdown. 382 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 5: Even how the margins were this past season with the 383 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 5: Ravens is hard and that kind of cell. They look 384 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 5: back on some of those moments that they wonder if 385 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 5: things might have changed this. 386 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: Home this way and that that way. 387 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, they mentioned the other play too in that game. Yeah, 388 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: just just reminding you of that. But it's not Yeah, 389 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: I mean I think it's natural and normal to feel 390 00:16:58,520 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: that way. 391 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: So of course you know that's that's something to do 392 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: think about. 393 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 6: Let's look out to you about Denard Wilson and why 394 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 6: did you. 395 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: Make him the defensive point. 396 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: I just think I've known Donard for a while, worked 397 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: with him closely. Uh, in the process, looked at a 398 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 3: lot of candidates, thought about a lot of different types 399 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: of guys and uh, and first of all, Donard's talent, 400 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 3: his ability, his tenacity, his determination. I think he's really smart. 401 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: I think he has a great knowledge of the game. 402 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: He's an excellent teacher. He's very demanding, and yet he's 403 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 3: very relationship oriented. All those things were part of it. 404 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 3: And then at the end of the day, I wanted 405 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 3: to stay in the system. It's a system that we 406 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 3: built over a long time, and and that's the system 407 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: that will be continuing to run. So and he reflect 408 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: he represents that as well. 409 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: So what threw you to talent over the years watching 410 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: him coach? 411 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: I mean, look at his record, right, Jeff, I mean 412 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: he's he's uh, he's proven. And then when I got you, 413 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 3: I didn't really know. I didn't really know Brian that well. 414 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't like we had a close relationship. 415 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 3: But in talking to him and just starting to talk 416 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: football and those interviews and Zoom interviews and stuff, I 417 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 3: just became really impressed with his knowledge and then also 418 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 3: his demeanor. He's got a great understanding of every part 419 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 3: of offensive football, passing game, run game, protections. 420 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: I mean, your dad's Bill Callahan. 421 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: You're gonna have a great understanding of protections, right, And 422 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: the fact that he's going to be able to just 423 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 3: immerse our quarterback in that understanding of the game, especially 424 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 3: from the protection standpoint 425 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: But every part of it is going to be good 426 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: for our offense.