WEBVTT - Nancy Kerrigan Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>How do you guys sleep? No, like, are you I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean do you sleep well?

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<v Speaker 2>Or do you sleep?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like, are you back sleepers? Are you side sleepers?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you sleep on your stomach? Does it switch? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you guys sleep?

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<v Speaker 3>I love this conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>On my stomach the whole night.

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<v Speaker 5>No, that's how I fall asleep, like I can only

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<v Speaker 5>fall asleep. And it took me a while to realize this.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, I'd toss and turn or be on

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<v Speaker 5>my side, and then eventually I realized, like, you, no,

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<v Speaker 5>I need to sleep, like on my stomach.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how I fall asleep. I usually wake up in

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<v Speaker 4>a different position.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, but that and it's so funny because now

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<v Speaker 5>I know that I'm getting tired enough to actually go

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<v Speaker 5>to sleep when I find myself in that position.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Like if I'm if I think I'm going to sleep,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'm still not there and I'm like lying on

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<v Speaker 5>my back, I'll be Oh, I'm the line on my back.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no way I'm going to sleep for the next

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<v Speaker 4>twenty minutes or so. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to be the exact same way. I was

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<v Speaker 3>almost an exclusive stomach sleeper. I could not fall asleep

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<v Speaker 3>any other way, and would if I wanted to sleep,

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<v Speaker 3>I would flip over onto my stomach and it would

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<v Speaker 3>be lights out, and then I would wake up and

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<v Speaker 3>I would still be on my stomach. And then being pregnant,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't sleep on your stomach, and I remember being

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<v Speaker 3>very nervous, like in the early stages of pregnancy you

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<v Speaker 3>still can sleep on your stomach, and being.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, what am I going to do?

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<v Speaker 3>What am I gonna do? I'm just not gonna sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just not going to sleep. And then the good

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<v Speaker 3>news is you're not sleeping when you're pregnant anyway, because

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<v Speaker 3>you have to pay every five minutes and you've got

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<v Speaker 3>some pains, and news well because because then then the war,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not the worst thing that you can't sleep on

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<v Speaker 3>your stomach because you're just not sleeping anyway when you're seven,

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<v Speaker 3>eight nine months pregnant. But I did, especially in my

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<v Speaker 3>pregnancy with Keaton, get very comfortable sleeping on my side.

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<v Speaker 3>All of a sudden, It wasn't a problem. It was

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<v Speaker 3>like suddenly sleeping on my side felt very natural and

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<v Speaker 3>very comfortable. I used to always feel on my side

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<v Speaker 3>that I didn't know what you do? Where do these go?

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<v Speaker 3>What does what happens with this? Like what does this

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<v Speaker 3>one do? And like is this one? This one's gonna fall.

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<v Speaker 2>Asleep like you act in a jacket.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly possible. I could never act in a jacket.

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<v Speaker 3>Couldn't sleep on my side. I also would feel like

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<v Speaker 3>I would like my weight would roll over forward, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, well, now I'm still kind of on

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<v Speaker 3>my stomach anyway, long story short. With Keaton, I got

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<v Speaker 3>very comfortable sleeping on my side, and now I sleep

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<v Speaker 3>in coffin pose on my side. So so both arms

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<v Speaker 3>vampire yes, and it's glorious it is. And so I'll

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<v Speaker 3>now fall asleep on my side in vampire pose and

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<v Speaker 3>then sometimes still wake up on my stomach. But I

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<v Speaker 3>vacillate between side sleeping vampire style and stomach sleeping.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have her back?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a specific side or is it? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it switching between the sides you have?

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<v Speaker 3>I can switch between the sides, but I start off

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<v Speaker 3>on my left side okay, and then I usually will

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<v Speaker 3>end up rolling over onto my right side.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>I once work than actress who told me you can't

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<v Speaker 5>sleep on your face, you can't sleep on your stomach.

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<v Speaker 3>Because because you wrinkles.

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<v Speaker 4>So she trained herself to sleep on her back.

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<v Speaker 3>Best friend Danielle did the exact same thing. Danielle sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>Danielle literally sleep. My friend Danielle literally sleeps arms down

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<v Speaker 3>by her side on a satin pillow, looking straight up.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, God, preserve my face.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah exactly. I mean I also drink the blood of

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<v Speaker 3>my husband and that keeps me young, so will what

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<v Speaker 3>about you?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I try not to drink too much of of.

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<v Speaker 1>Your producer Jensen producer Jensen Cup, husband of this podcast blood. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got a strange aftertaste. But no, I sleep on

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<v Speaker 1>my stomach. I sleep on my stomach or my side,

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<v Speaker 1>but I nap on my back. What Yes, napping is

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<v Speaker 1>the only time I snore and it's because I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>my back.

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<v Speaker 3>So you nap on your back too, writer.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because I'm if I'm nappy, and I only wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to last twenty minutes, and.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like, I can, I know, make sure you're uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess so between twenty minutes and four hours. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's that same thing. But I nap in coffin pose

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<v Speaker 1>where there's times where I Sue will come in and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, that's the creepiest thing I've ever seen in

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<v Speaker 1>my life because I am full like this and out

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<v Speaker 1>I wow, yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh oh interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just curious. I was ccared thought about that

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<v Speaker 2>when I woke up this morning. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>know how I sleep, but I don't know how they sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>To find out, we should do a slumber party one day.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the Boy meets World House.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey are webb the Boy meets World House?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you may be onto something.

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<v Speaker 4>I do want to see what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 5>It's uh, wouldn't it be crazy if we walked in

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<v Speaker 5>and it was like exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh my gosh, what if the Boy meets What

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<v Speaker 3>if the Matthew's couch is in there and.

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<v Speaker 1>The family picture and Rusty's just there?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, I hope that would be so awesome. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Pod meets World. I'mdaniel Fishal, I'm right or Strong,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm Wilfredell. Our guest today is Nancy Carrigan, who

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<v Speaker 3>is way better than doing this podcast. But she said yes,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're gonna accept her answer. We're gonna roll with it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, she won a handful of Olympic medals as

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<v Speaker 3>a figure skater, competing from nineteen ninety one to nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>ninety four, including the Unforgettable Showdown with Oxana Bayoul and

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<v Speaker 3>Lily Hammer, which earned her a place on the world

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<v Speaker 3>stage and a silver medal. And that same year, what

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<v Speaker 3>you may unfortunately know her best from is when Nancy

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<v Speaker 3>found herself thrust into an infamous scandal that is still

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<v Speaker 3>pop culture fodder today, when she was attacked by a

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<v Speaker 3>hitman that a rival's ex husband hired to sideline her

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<v Speaker 3>from the competition. Beyond that, though Carrigan was inducted into

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<v Speaker 3>the United States Figure Skating Hall of Fame in two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand and four, she starred in Broadway on ice and

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<v Speaker 3>competed in Dancing with the Stars in twenty seventeen. But

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<v Speaker 3>today we are less interested in all of that, all

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<v Speaker 3>of those accolades and those incidents, because she played herself

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<v Speaker 3>in one episode of Boy Meets World, Season two, episode nineteen,

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<v Speaker 3>Wrong Side of the Tracks in nineteen ninety five, and

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<v Speaker 3>that is what she's here to talk about today. So

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<v Speaker 3>let's please welcome to the podcast. Nancy Carrigan.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Yes, how are you?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm good? How are you doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, thank you so much for being here

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<v Speaker 3>with us.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm glad to be this has been a long time.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm really I was just disappointed years and years ago

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<v Speaker 7>when I didn't get to go on set and meet everybody.

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<v Speaker 7>I know, I mean, Will it was great working with you,

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<v Speaker 7>but it was I've been a huge fan, My kids

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<v Speaker 7>are fans. We've watched, you know, all of Boy Meets

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<v Speaker 7>World plus Girl Meets World.

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<v Speaker 3>So, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I just remember being very cold. I just remember

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<v Speaker 1>being very, very cold.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's to jump into it. My very first question

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<v Speaker 3>is do you remember how you kind of ended up

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<v Speaker 3>on Boy Meets World? Did Was it just a phone

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<v Speaker 3>call to you? And then ask how did that come about?

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<v Speaker 7>I always should ask this before the questions come up,

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<v Speaker 7>because I don't know. I have an agent who's still

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<v Speaker 7>my agent, but now my husband.

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<v Speaker 3>Would he have been your He would have been your

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<v Speaker 3>agent at the time.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yes, So someone must have called him and asked

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<v Speaker 7>if I would be on and of course I'm like, yes,

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<v Speaker 7>for sure, and I I think it was at the time.

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<v Speaker 6>I was in in.

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<v Speaker 7>Lake Placid anyway, already filming, and so we're like, yes,

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<v Speaker 7>it sounded, you know, made sense and makes it look

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<v Speaker 7>more dream like, not being in just an ice rink,

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<v Speaker 7>I guess.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, part of the dream.

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<v Speaker 3>That is my question. Will Where did you guys, because

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<v Speaker 3>you were you were filmed it in Lake Placid, which

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<v Speaker 3>the world had no business being in Lake Placid. We

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<v Speaker 3>went there for you, Nancy, right.

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<v Speaker 2>We did.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember flying there with with Kendall and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say Karen McCain and we who are two of

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<v Speaker 1>our producers, and we flew there and I just remember

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<v Speaker 1>landing and even growing up in the East Coast in Connecticut,

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<v Speaker 1>I was still like, this is really cold.

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<v Speaker 4>It was. You were already as at that point converted.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to this house that was, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>front of a frozen lake, which I guess was Lake

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<v Speaker 1>Placid or something smaller.

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<v Speaker 6>Was it Mirror Lake?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Mirror Lake, okay, And we had to take

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<v Speaker 1>snowmobiles to get to the lake to then put me

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<v Speaker 1>on skates for the second time in my entire life

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<v Speaker 1>in front of Nancy Carrigan, which isn't intimidating at all,

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<v Speaker 1>which is awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was what a day.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you find out you were going to be

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<v Speaker 3>working with Nancy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they kind of said, you know, Kendall pulled

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<v Speaker 1>me aside and said, hey, we're going to be doing

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<v Speaker 1>a dream sequence with Nancy Kerrigan.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, that's awesome. Who's going to go skate

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<v Speaker 2>with her? Because it can't be me?

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, who's that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, I know exactly who you are, and

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<v Speaker 2>so it was I.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I remember then they literally brought me to

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<v Speaker 1>an ice skating store and I sat there and they

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<v Speaker 1>fitted me with really expensive, ridiculous skates that hurt so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how Nancy you do this. It's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like your feet are in a vice all

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<v Speaker 1>day long.

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<v Speaker 2>It is excruciatingly painful.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, when they're new, especially, but then people will say, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>you must have strong ankles. I'm like, no, they're very

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<v Speaker 7>strong boots. There's like four layers of leather, although now

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<v Speaker 7>they're all plastic and super light and it's really different,

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<v Speaker 7>which hard for me to get used to.

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<v Speaker 6>I have a new pair of.

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<v Speaker 7>Those plastic skates and I yet to to try and

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<v Speaker 7>break them in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's oh, it's horrifying.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, these days have it easy. You want those hard leather,

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<v Speaker 4>heavy boots.

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<v Speaker 1>They were so painful, and I just I just remember

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<v Speaker 1>standing there with you, and you kind of being very

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<v Speaker 1>nice and trying to help me essentially stand on the

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<v Speaker 1>skates and I you look down at my skates, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you looked up at me and you smiled, and

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<v Speaker 1>I went, these are good skates, aren't they? And you

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<v Speaker 1>very politely went, they're very good and maybe a little

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<v Speaker 1>too good for for your level.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, Okay, maybe you don't deserve these.

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<v Speaker 7>You probably needed, like not just the try on and see,

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<v Speaker 7>okay these fit.

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<v Speaker 6>You needed to practice in them, maybe, yeah, yeah, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I didn't do at all. It was just here,

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<v Speaker 1>here are skates. Now go stand on ice with Nancy Kerrigan.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, so, does that mean that.

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<v Speaker 4>Kendall directed it? Did he direct the Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he did. I was wondering because the.

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<v Speaker 4>Trainer gets credit for the episode, but he didn't even go.

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<v Speaker 1>Kend was it bundled up like head to toe like

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<v Speaker 1>we were hiking in Alaska and you had one camera?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. I was so concentrating on hitting my

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<v Speaker 1>double LUTs that oh yeah, your career that was obviously me.

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<v Speaker 6>Clearly a couple axel and sitspin.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I did well. The sitspin was easy. I

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<v Speaker 2>had that down at the airport. It was the it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was worried about the about the double axle. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>take you off. It's with the axle.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the thing when I'm hitting my my my

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<v Speaker 1>uh regular spins. You know, you land forward with the axle,

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<v Speaker 1>you take off backward, you land back. The whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>was very strange, so I was probably wrong with everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I just said, yeah, it sounded great, right, I was

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<v Speaker 1>committing to the to the performance though.

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<v Speaker 3>No, Nancy, was this your first experience acting? Had you

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<v Speaker 3>ever been asked to do another TV show?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I've done the Journey of Alan Strange and I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know that right before or right after, but like

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<v Speaker 7>right around the same time. And that thing is with

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<v Speaker 7>like I always have to play myself, which is kind

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<v Speaker 7>of a little boring, you know, because I'm already me,

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<v Speaker 7>so fun like do actually try and act, But I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>skating is a lot of acting, frankly, We're just trying

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<v Speaker 7>to portray a character to different music. So I've done

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<v Speaker 7>shows since but on Ice Greece where I Preowski and

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<v Speaker 7>I did Buriel and Footloose, which was super fun. Really

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<v Speaker 7>like I love being on and like playing that one

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<v Speaker 7>character for two hours, as opposed to like you wait

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<v Speaker 7>and do your three minutes of a piece and like

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<v Speaker 7>that's kind of boring. So to be able to continue

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<v Speaker 7>with a character is super fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I have way, I have a question for my fellow

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<v Speaker 1>cast members. It is a trivia question. Nancy will know

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<v Speaker 1>the answer to this, but I want to see if

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<v Speaker 1>you do as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I probably will not.

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<v Speaker 1>In what project did Nancy Kerrigan appear with William Daniels. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Nancy doesn't know this, which is very funny that

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<v Speaker 1>she wouldn't because she's in it is mister Feenie. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not mister Feenie at the time, but they were together

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<v Speaker 1>in Blade of Glory with will.

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<v Speaker 7>Fare Okay, oh Flory.

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<v Speaker 1>He plays the skating judge that kicks Will Ferrell out

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<v Speaker 1>of skating forever and on John Heater out of skating forever,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nancy Carrigan plays a wonderful Nancy Kerrigan as she

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<v Speaker 1>talks about.

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<v Speaker 6>Was a long day.

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<v Speaker 7>That is the issue with you got what you guys do,

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<v Speaker 7>like six hours for maybe a.

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<v Speaker 6>Thirty second piece.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it was crazy and it's I'm just sitting around.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, just wait, a lot of waiting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So, before you got the phone call to come

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<v Speaker 3>on Boy Meets World, were you aware of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Had you ever seen an episode of Boy Meets World? Hey?

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<v Speaker 6>Guy?

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<v Speaker 7>So I also, so that's before I had kids, but

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<v Speaker 7>I have a step son, and so yeah, of course,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean it's.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm traveling a lot with all these.

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<v Speaker 7>Other skaters, many of whom were younger than me, and

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<v Speaker 7>so yeah, it's it was an iconic show.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, of course I knew it.

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<v Speaker 7>You guys portrayed such great characters of and it was

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<v Speaker 7>so much about friendship and like helping one another, and

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<v Speaker 7>it was just really uplifting I think for so many

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<v Speaker 7>as opposed to you know, you see a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>shows and they're at each other instead of there for

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<v Speaker 7>one another, and it was I think it was a

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<v Speaker 7>great thing. And frankly, we could use another show very

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<v Speaker 7>much like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I agree, one hundred completely agree all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I say it all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So, so do you remember, like, do you guys

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<v Speaker 3>remember what time of year it was? It was ninety four,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the episode aired in February of ninety five,

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<v Speaker 3>but you guys filmed this probably in ninety four, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to assume it was at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>ninety four.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought it was in February of ninety four, but

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<v Speaker 6>that wouldn't taken.

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<v Speaker 3>Out well, it would have been February of ninety five

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<v Speaker 3>is when it aired. So usually we were we would

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<v Speaker 3>record the episodes like three to four months before they

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<v Speaker 3>would air.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I wouldn't say that far. Maybe really yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>on it could have.

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<v Speaker 1>Been January, you know, Yeah, it was mid August in

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<v Speaker 1>Lake Placid.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, probably the hottest month of the year exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That was August twentieth in Lake Placid. It was below

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<v Speaker 1>it was nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Below yeah, right, or you're right. It could have been

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<v Speaker 3>the very first episode back after the holiday break. We

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<v Speaker 3>would have taken in December. It could have been January,

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<v Speaker 3>it was, I just remember it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was obviously right during the height of the winter

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<v Speaker 1>months and there, yeah, it was very very cold there.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are.

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<v Speaker 7>Other times and like skating outside on the lake and

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<v Speaker 7>it's been seven below zero and you're like trying to

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<v Speaker 7>make you know, you're happy, and it's all exciting and

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<v Speaker 7>oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>It brought back a lot of memories.

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<v Speaker 7>I actually filmed on the same lake last year, and

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, oh, I remember being here, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>it was. It was definitely brings back memories when when

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<v Speaker 7>I visit, you know, Lake Placid, and it was a

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<v Speaker 7>it was a good memory for me for sure, good

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<v Speaker 7>experience it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was for me too. It really was for me too.

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<v Speaker 2>I had. I had so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You were very very accommodating for my awesome skating, which

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah was the thing I remember most was ending

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<v Speaker 1>up not even being able to do the regular just

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<v Speaker 1>skate around the rink the ice part, I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>not even being able to be on my feet to

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<v Speaker 1>go around.

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<v Speaker 2>So it ended with me on my knees on a wheelchair.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wows.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm backwards on the wheelchair and they're pushing me

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<v Speaker 1>around the ice with the camera up at me.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing this the whole time as they're pushing the wheelchair around,

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<v Speaker 1>because standing on the skates just it wasn't even make

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<v Speaker 1>that look.

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<v Speaker 3>Will You're from Connecticut, how had you never been in

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<v Speaker 3>ice skates?

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<v Speaker 6>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>There were two high schools in our town. One of

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<v Speaker 1>them was the hockey school, and we didn't like them,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think I I just didn't do the whole

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<v Speaker 1>hockey thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I was. Yeah, I was a soccer, baseball, football kind

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<v Speaker 2>of kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And the winter sports. My brother was a big winter

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<v Speaker 1>sports guy. Greg skis and snowboards, and I think skated

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<v Speaker 1>and did all that stuff. But I just could never

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<v Speaker 1>And to this day, I can skate, I can roller skate,

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<v Speaker 1>I can ski. I can't stop on any of those.

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<v Speaker 1>So it just ends with falling everybody. So no, remember

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<v Speaker 1>who your double was?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, the story about the double.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So we get there and contrary to what I

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<v Speaker 1>said at the beginning, I might not have hit all

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<v Speaker 1>the jumps. I was talking about Nancy the LUTs, but

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<v Speaker 1>the sucow is somebody else. No, So we had They

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<v Speaker 1>had a double there to skate for me, obviously, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was a very nice guy. And they stood us

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<v Speaker 1>together and Kendall, in his infinite wisdom, said, your hair

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't match his hair does not match your hair. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to color your hair. And I looked at the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, you gotta go get your hair colored.

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<v Speaker 1>And David's like, I'm talking to you. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>notice in the episode, I now have dark, dark, dark

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<v Speaker 1>brown hair. And it's because for some reason they decided

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<v Speaker 1>to dye my hair.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh it's easier to go darker than it is to

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<v Speaker 4>go lighter.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, to match right, makes.

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<v Speaker 5>Sense because if you have to if you have to

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<v Speaker 5>make somebody's hair lighter, you have to like bleach it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you have to, versus like he could buy a

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<v Speaker 3>drug store brand.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah dark, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Scul were going to hat the whole time anyway, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a is that what they're called when like

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<v Speaker 1>the hair kind of sticks.

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<v Speaker 6>Out a band?

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, yeah, I know, but be me instead.

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<v Speaker 1>I am at a you know, a hair salon in

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<v Speaker 1>Lake Placid getting my hair darkened to match the and

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<v Speaker 1>then it was dark for the rest of the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. I had like super dark brown hair.

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<v Speaker 3>Nancy, were you nervous at all?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think so. Well, it was pretty easy.

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<v Speaker 7>What I had to do was pretty easy and basically

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<v Speaker 7>matching you know it.

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<v Speaker 6>They dubbed the voice and.

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<v Speaker 7>It was just so funny because because it was a

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<v Speaker 7>dream sequence, the acting was a little weird and and.

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<v Speaker 6>Like, you know, it was I was like so awkward.

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<v Speaker 7>People don't act like this, and they're like but it's

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<v Speaker 7>a dream, And I was like, yeah, but I kind

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<v Speaker 7>of look stupid, but you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So, I mean the way it came out was perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so good. I actually love the moment with the

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<v Speaker 3>hand on the lips. I thought it was I thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was really I mean, it's really great.

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<v Speaker 6>Well it makes it funny, right, so I think that

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<v Speaker 6>was the point.

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<v Speaker 7>But it was a little silly, felt silly, but getting

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<v Speaker 7>going into it, not so much. I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 7>hope it didn't take too long because, as Weill said, freezing,

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<v Speaker 7>it's freezing, freezing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I remember the scene being longer. Yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the thing I remember when I when I actually watched

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<v Speaker 1>it again, I was like, oh, why did I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a much longer sequence than this.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it probably took all day?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, right, And it was just such a big deal

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<v Speaker 5>to be out traveling and then be out there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and you probably had to do if you only had

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<v Speaker 5>one camera crew, right then you would have had to

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<v Speaker 5>do more coverage than normal than on a multi camera set.

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<v Speaker 5>So you were used to like, oh, now we got

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<v Speaker 5>to turn around and do this and do that. You

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<v Speaker 5>you probably just had somebody setups. Must have felt like

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<v Speaker 5>a long day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we were in a you know, they put

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<v Speaker 1>us in a hotel there at Lake Placid, and we

0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:08.800
<v Speaker 1>were in that kind of this rustic hotel where everybody

0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:10.240
<v Speaker 1>was hanging out in the lobby, and I remember I

0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:11.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't know anybody, so I just like snuck back to

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<v Speaker 1>my rooms. Everyone was hanging out by the fireplace and

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<v Speaker 1>having these cool like back East moments, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go upstairs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole situation was. It was such a it was

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<v Speaker 1>a magical kind of day.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Nancy, you're here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to embarrass you, but I'm on the

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<v Speaker 1>ice with Nancy Kerrigan, you know what I mean. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like outside in Lake Placid, New York, and I'm shooting

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<v Speaker 1>it as a dream sequence and she's teaching me how

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<v Speaker 1>to skate. I mean, it was like, it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those days that I will always remember.

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<v Speaker 2>I just will forever.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey Dude. This is Christine Taylor and.

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<v Speaker 4>This is David Lasher.

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<v Speaker 8>You may remember us as teenage co stars on the

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<v Speaker 8>Nickelodeon show Hey Dude, back in the day.

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<v Speaker 9>Now decades later, we are together again as hosts of

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<v Speaker 9>the Hey Dude, Then Nineties called podcast, where we revisit

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<v Speaker 9>amazing nineties nostalgia.

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<v Speaker 8>From music to movies, to television and comedy.

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<v Speaker 9>We cover it all, and we get to do it

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<v Speaker 9>with an array of guests who made their mark in

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<v Speaker 9>that magical era.

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<v Speaker 8>Stars from Saved by the Bell, Married with Children, Blossom, Clueless,

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<v Speaker 8>Full House, Beverly Hills, nine O two one zero. The

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<v Speaker 8>list goes on and.

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<v Speaker 9>David, don't forget our number one fan, mister Ben Stiller.

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<v Speaker 2>How could I forget Ben Stiller?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it was so nice for us to both

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<v Speaker 4>meet him for the first time. He was an amazing guest.

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<v Speaker 8>We've also had on other nineties megastars like Jason Priestley,

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<v Speaker 8>Melissa Joan Hart, cal Mitchell, and Maam Biollick just the

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<v Speaker 8>name a few, and there's so much more to come.

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<v Speaker 3>So sit back, relax.

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<v Speaker 9>You can even binge our episodes and make sure to

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<v Speaker 9>catch a new one each week.

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<v Speaker 8>Listen to Hey Dude, the Nineties called on the iHeartRadio app,

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<v Speaker 3>So I forgive me this is a stupid question. You

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<v Speaker 3>were living and you were living there, right, Nancy, You

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<v Speaker 3>were living in.

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<v Speaker 6>I know has lived in near Boston.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, and so were you training at Lake Placid? How

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:15.440
<v Speaker 3>was that? How did I How was this location chosen?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know except for that unless it was filmed

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<v Speaker 7>in ninety four. I remember I was doing a Disney

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:26.760
<v Speaker 7>special there, so I was already there, like a whole

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<v Speaker 7>week of Disney stuff. I was a week at Disney World,

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 7>and then a week there doing outdoor magical.

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<v Speaker 6>Things and so then and then they had it for

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<v Speaker 6>a year to wait.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, well not it wouldn't it was if

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<v Speaker 3>it aired in ninety five. It was February of ninety five,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's possible you were doing that at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of ninety four. Maybe it was December, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So it was. But otherwise I don't know why they

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<v Speaker 6>would pick it except for.

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<v Speaker 3>That, it had to have been that you were already

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<v Speaker 3>going to be there.

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<v Speaker 6>Lake Placid, you know. I mean, it's on a place.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love the right outside of Boston, by the way,

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:07.919
<v Speaker 1>because East Coast people represent Massachusetts and Connecticut, thank you

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:09.400
<v Speaker 1>very much, love it very much.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Nancy, do people ever come up to you and say, Hey,

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 3>I loved you on Boy Meets World? They do?

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:22.920
<v Speaker 6>I just thought last night, you know, and yeah, they're there.

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 7>It's on a lot, Actually, I would I feel like

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.879
<v Speaker 7>it's a lot, because they'll say it mention it now

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<v Speaker 7>quite a bit when when it appears people see it.

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<v Speaker 7>So people are still watching all the time, which is awesome.

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 7>I mean for you guys, it's amazing, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean people, we we asked every guest.

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<v Speaker 7>We have mean more facial hair on than you, guys,

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 7>but you still look really good and young.

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 3>And you I was thinking the same thing about you.

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 3>I was like, she looks exactly the same as she

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 3>doesn't A dream sequence from You're nearly thirty years ago?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, thank you thinking just from makeup? Right?

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:01.919
<v Speaker 3>Have your kids seen you on Boy Meets World? Have

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 3>they ever watched any of.

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:07.199
<v Speaker 6>Your long time ago? But they're not. They're busy. My

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 6>oldest is twenty six.

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:13.720
<v Speaker 7>He's a costume designer, so always working in busy, busy

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 7>and television, theater, all kinds of stuff. So right now

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 7>he is down in Florida doing hits.

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 2>The musical Oh wow.

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 6>And I have a middle guy, Brian, That that was Matthew.

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:31.640
<v Speaker 6>Brian is going into the Naval Academy. He's a senior

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 6>in high school. So he's a gymnast.

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 7>He's going to be on the gymnastics team next year

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<v Speaker 7>at the Navy.

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 6>That's pretty exciting.

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:41.880
<v Speaker 7>We just found out everything is all set, so he's

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 7>going for sure. And then I have a we have

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<v Speaker 7>a daughter who is a freshman in high school and

0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 7>she's in a conservatory ballet company, so she's They're super

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 7>driven and no skaters.

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 6>No Matthew tried.

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<v Speaker 7>And by the way, his name is Matthew Eric, which

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:02.640
<v Speaker 7>I thought it was Eric Matthew, which is hysterical.

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Eric.

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<v Speaker 6>Matthew decided on it.

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 7>My husband got on the phone and he told someone

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:10.440
<v Speaker 7>whose name is Matthew Eric, and I was like, well,

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 7>like seconds ago, we just decided And it wasn't after

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 7>the character or anything, but happened to be weird coincidence.

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:24.199
<v Speaker 3>That's so funny. Will's gonna tell everybody you have a

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 3>son named after him.

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, from now on.

0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 7>But there they it definitely as a parent made our

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 7>job a lot easier that they found passion and something

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:41.120
<v Speaker 7>that they are super involved and invested in because they

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 7>just you know, they know you have goals, you have

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 7>to work hard, and so you know, yeah, real, they

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:49.919
<v Speaker 7>can't really not work hard if you have high goals.

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.879
<v Speaker 1>So I have a close friend of mine wrestled at

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Annapolis and it's that is not an easy place to

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 1>get into. My father's retired at Navy Reserve. He's a

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 1>captain and he so that I mean, that's congratulations. I mean,

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 1>graduations to all your kids. But getting into Annapolis as

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 1>an athlete is not an easy thing to do.

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 7>And men's gymnastics is pretty tough because there's only fifteen

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:18.439
<v Speaker 7>colleges that have NCAA who teams, so for the men,

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 7>really challenging to get to get in there. But he

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:24.439
<v Speaker 7>had a couple of other opers, but this was I

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 7>think going to be the best one, and it's the

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.919
<v Speaker 7>best fit for him. So he leaves soon, you know,

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 7>and you graduate high school and then boom he's gone.

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 6>It's going to be crazy big changes for us.

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Writer and I have have younger children. Writer has

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:40.360
<v Speaker 3>an eight year old son and I have a three

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 3>and a half year old son and a seventeen month

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 3>old son. So the idea that like, for Writer, he's

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 3>been thinking about it, like, really, only ten more summers

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:49.439
<v Speaker 3>before that's.

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 4>All I get.

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm already like, oh god, Then you know, we're like

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 5>halfway through his child. We have to get we have

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 5>to start planning this and figuring out how we want

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 5>to spend our time together, because it goes by so.

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 6>Fast, so fast.

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Matthew, the one that's in Florida now, he just

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 7>bought his first apartment in New York. He moved when

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 7>he was nineteen and started working. He did, and he's

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 7>just worked ever since. So at twenty five, he could

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 7>buy his own apartment in New York.

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's but he's named after me.

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 6>Yes.

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 7>Well, so they leave and when they're working and not

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 7>going to college, you don't get those breaks so to

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 7>come home.

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 6>He's like, well, I'm working, I can't come home.

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 3>Right, So you know Coco Melon, of course I do.

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 7>Okay, they're on tour. He built those costumes, had those

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 7>all built, and it's so funny, went much. My daughter

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 7>went with her friends. We had like the oldest kids

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 7>in the audience. It was so funny. So they're on

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 7>tour and he you know, I'm oh, Matthew's gonna come

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 7>home this weekend and then they he said, no, no,

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 7>this elephant's head keeps falling off.

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 6>I can't And I was like not really something I

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 6>ever thought my son would be saying.

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 4>What that words were?

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 7>Oh my gosh, so I ever propose to cocoa melon?

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 6>You know, it's just weird.

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 10>It's so so funny.

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 3>We talk a lot on this podcast about like fame

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 3>pre internet, and the pros and cons of fame pre internet,

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 3>and just really briefly, I want to touch on the

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 3>fact that you were the victim of an attack in

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 3>ninety four, and it's a rather infamous event, and looking

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 3>back on it now, one of the things that strikes

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 3>me is how many jokes were made after the fact

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 3>at your expense. Very strange, right, do you think had

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 3>if something like that were to happen today, how do

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 3>you think it would be handled? Like, do you think

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 3>it would be hands differently?

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 7>I don't know, I would say. Even still today there's

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 7>half hour comedic shows and it's mentioned. I'm like, it's

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 7>almost thirty Still presidents have mentioned like you didn't you

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 7>haven't come up.

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 6>With something better at the or newer to to I

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 6>think it's funny. I don't know, it's see. I don't

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 6>think it's anything funny to be attacked.

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it had to have been an extremely traumatic

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 3>event for you.

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 6>It was the hardest heart.

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 7>I think still is like Halloween because people will dress

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 7>up as me Antonia Harding and you know, think it's funny,

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 7>or dress up their small children.

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 6>Now you guys have small kids, Like would you think

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 6>to dress one up.

0:30:54.240 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 7>As never one as a villain? Like but whatever, I would?

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 6>Who do this? I don't.

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 7>It's song And then like so now with since it's

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 7>not pre media like in social media, it's they tagged

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 7>me like, hey, thanks so much. I didn't think about

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 7>being attach today. Glad, you know, And and to put

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 7>that spin on it, it makes it like it's funny.

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 6>It's it's not, no, it's it was real life, Like

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 6>what are you thinking? I don't know?

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 2>So people, I have a theory.

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I have a theory about why people joked about it

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>at the time and are still joking about it, And

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 1>it's because of the way you handled it, which was

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>with such class and you just you you just.

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Skated, that's all you did.

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>You you went and did your job, and you did

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>it with such again elegance in class that I think

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>people were like, well, she's not talking, so I'm gonna

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>fill it with with noise because you were like, yeah,

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna I'm not even gonna justify this.

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm here to do what I gotta do.

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I got a job that I'm really good at that

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I've worked my whole life for.

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 2>This is what I'm going to do.

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>And because again you had that grace, everyone was like, well,

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll fill the void. And I that's my theory of

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>why it happened, because I don't I believe. I don't

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>believe enough people talk about how you handled the whole situation.

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 1>They talk about everything else, but very little about how

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>you just took it and went I'm putting it over there.

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:28.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing what I gotta do.

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm focused on what I gotta do, which is what

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 1>an athlete does, a world class athlete does. I've been

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>working my whole life to get here. Nothing's gonna stop me,

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>and That's what I'm gonna do. And I think people

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>took that as like almost like, yeah, well then I'll

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll fill in the void. And so that's always what

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought was there was And it's like, why don't

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>we hear more about the fact that Nancy handled that

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>like an actual champion handle stuff. But you know, you don't,

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you very very rarely hear about that side, which I

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>always found very odd.

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's I appreciate all. Thank you.

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 7>It's a funny thing because I think people a credit.

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 7>The nineties in skating was like booming. We had tours

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 7>that don't even exist now. I mean one tour I

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 7>did had ninety six ninety four shows through like a

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 7>couple months, and we just went from city to city

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 7>to city, touring all over the place.

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 6>And now that doesn't even exist. But people would say, oh,

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 6>well because of the attack, And I'm like, is that true?

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 7>And like even signing up your kid to go take

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 7>baseball or skating, Like people, would you have signed your

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 7>kid up for skating?

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 6>If I decided this is crazy? People?

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 7>Are you know what is wrong with this? And didn't

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 7>do what you're saying, like, move forward and if possible,

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 7>if I can be healthy enough, go do it. Go

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 7>do what I've been training for. Because if I just

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 7>took back then maybe that would have been different. I

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 7>think I'd only say it now because it's so long

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 7>in the past. It's almost like different person at this point.

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 7>But it's if I didn't show up at the Olympics,

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 7>if I didn't get to compete, would there have.

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 6>Been the boom?

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 7>Maybe not, you know, So it's more about the positive

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 7>that comes from something negative that should be looked at

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.959
<v Speaker 7>as this is why it is not the negative act

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 7>that didn't cause the great boom of skating, you know,

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 7>it's it's the positive part of it that did.

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. And I even did a show before going to

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 6>the Olympics.

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 7>A bunch of people came out just so I could

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 7>perform in front of people. I didn't know what it

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 7>would be like eruption of you know, clapping or what.

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 7>And so friends came and perform with me so that

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 7>I could just have some experience first, and like they

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 7>were positive by helping, you know, by being part of that.

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 6>And I think it's all.

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 7>That, all that positivity that was a result of people

0:34:56.920 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 7>like handling it well, I guess, but yeah, who knows.

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, moving on after something like that requires like

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 3>such intense and just strength of character. What did you

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 3>do right after that to put your head down and

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 3>ignore all the noise when it's all anyone could talk about?

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 3>How did you separate yourself and move on?

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 7>I think the actual immediate at the moment of being attached,

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 7>my dad actually heard me, so he scooped me up

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 7>and carried me into a room. And my little cousin,

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 7>who's like seventeen years younger, she was like five years old.

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 6>I think maybe she.

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 7>Was The door opened and I saw her face look

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:41.399
<v Speaker 7>like is she going to die?

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 6>Like what's going on?

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, because I was in pain, so I was screaming

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 7>and the door shut and I said, open the door,

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 7>have her come in here, and because little kid doesn't

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 7>need to be scared, like I'm hurt, but I'm not dying,

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 7>like I could see on her face fear and I'm like, no, no,

0:35:57.600 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 7>it's okay. I'm going to be okay. And I think

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 7>that just jolted me right into this. This sucks, this

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 7>isn't this is bad. Someone else can handle what's happening outside.

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 7>But right now I'm okay, you know. And I didn't

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 7>know if i'd walk again, I didn't know if i'd

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 7>skate again, but I was like, I was okay, So

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 7>I just want to I think having her there actually,

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 7>maybe who knows, helped me a lot. Imagine a little

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 7>five year old, but maybe that puts it in perspective.

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 7>And then after it's just my mom's been blind, my

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 7>whole life. I think that always comes into play watching

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 7>my dad like help so much and her everything the

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 7>way everything is now, it's flat screens, flat, so cool.

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 7>But when you can't feel a button hard, everything's a challenge.

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 7>So like, Okay, this isn't so bad.

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:36:55.719 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 7>It's being able to learn perspective and having empathy for

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 7>others and going, yeah, this could be worse, but if possible,

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to get get my job done.

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:12.280
<v Speaker 7>So, I don't know, just coming from normal like people

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 7>that were there, like, oh, you wanted to still do this, sorry,

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 7>let's make it happen.

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:18.439
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm so glad that it wasn't mentioned on Boy

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 3>Meets World at all. We had you there because you

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 3>were an a phenomenal Olympic ice skater, and it was

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 3>just not that was not a part of the story.

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 3>It had nothing to do with that. And uh, it's

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 3>one of the things that I think makes all of

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 3>us so proud of so many different elements of Boy

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Meets World is that we really did those.

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was. It was a ton of fun.

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, we're not even gonna get into it,

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 1>but you did get your job done, and that's a

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.399
<v Speaker 1>whole nother story. You absolutely got your job done. That's

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>a whole different thing.

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 4>I do.

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I do want to tell one story of me putting

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>my foot in my mouth.

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:54.800
<v Speaker 3>And yes, please, I love these. I love it mouth stories.

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:57.959
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, As I said to Danielle, open open mouth,

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 1>insert skate. So we were sitting there and we were talking,

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, in between shooting. We were both bundled up

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>with with blankets and everything we could possibly have, and

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:10.399
<v Speaker 1>and we were just talking. We're just having a nice

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.399
<v Speaker 1>conversation and you said something where it was like, yeah,

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I've got to right after this, I've got to go

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to rehab for for your leg. You know, you were

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you were going to be doing something, but I didn't

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:20.399
<v Speaker 1>know what you were talking about.

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 2>You said, yeah, I've got to go, and I went,

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 2>really for what?

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Just not just we're having a normal conversation. You're like, yeah,

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I've got to go, you know, a therapy. I just

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>said I've got to go at therapy And I went

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 1>really for what? And you looked them and you went yeah,

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 1>but you did you at that, you know, you know

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:42.879
<v Speaker 1>the thing with my leg and that. By that point

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like uh and I went, oh, oh yeah,

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:49.359
<v Speaker 1>how's that going? And luckily by that point they went

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 1>all right, we need you guys back in the set.

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh thank god, Like I just oh my gosh.

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 6>Say things like even recently someone said.

0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 7>Something to me and then they're like, oh, that's not

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 7>funny to you, probably right, like and I'm like, well,

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 7>you know, you have to appreciate the innocence of like oh, yeah, I.

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Mean, does anyone ever say to you before you go

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:13.879
<v Speaker 3>out for a performance break a leg?

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah? You know what.

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:19.800
<v Speaker 7>Christya Magucci and I've been, for instance, like I was fifteen,

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 7>she was thirteen. And what's really funny is that she

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 7>said it while I was doing Dancing with the Stars.

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 7>She was like, oh Nancy, and she had her daughters

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 7>like hold up a sign, break a leg. People are

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:33.720
<v Speaker 7>all over her like what are you doing?

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:37.839
<v Speaker 6>Why are you I'm like, oh, seriously, it's good luck.

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 2>I get it.

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:44.839
<v Speaker 6>It's not She didn't mean any harm by Yeah. I'm like, Chris,

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 6>don't worry about this.

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:48.879
<v Speaker 3>And like you said, for you, it's so long ago

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 3>now it almost feels like a different person. I'm sure

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 3>for Christy who's known you, yeah, it's yeah exactly. She

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 3>she meant it with just the purest of intentions, the

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 3>way we all say break a leg before a performance,

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 3>and yet of course that it didn't come across that

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 3>way to other people.

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:09.840
<v Speaker 6>The ballerinas say mad, all right.

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Shit in French?

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 6>I found out why why right? Like it's something No,

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 6>it's when.

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 7>Years and years ago when the ballet would come, they

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 7>were so excited when there would be lots of this

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 7>on the ground because that means they were to have

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 7>a big audience because there was lots of horse drawn

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 7>carriages and lots of horses there, and so they were

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 7>going to have a great audience. Yeah.

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 2>I love hearing industry stuff that you don't know about.

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:42.400
<v Speaker 4>The more the better the audience.

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 5>Well, i'd actually heard there's multiple theories about break a

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:50.439
<v Speaker 5>leg too, because I've also heard that it's about if

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 5>if you had to do if you were going to

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 5>do a second encore, a second curtain call, the lead

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 5>actor would break their leg, meaning that they would tuck

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 5>their leg behind their other leg to indicate to all

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 5>the other actors on stage, we're going to come back

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:04.759
<v Speaker 5>out do another bow.

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 4>So if the.

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 5>Audience was really enjoying the show, the lead actor would

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 5>break their legs and then everybody would know that it

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 5>went well that night. But there's also alternate theories. But

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 5>that's that's the one I've heard. I'm like, I like

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:16.839
<v Speaker 5>that one.

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 7>That's too because I heard it was like the wings

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 7>on the side of the stage and they were like

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 7>breaking it, like don't get on stage, basically breaking.

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:26.439
<v Speaker 1>See.

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 2>The one I heard is John Wilkes booth jumping.

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 1>When Wilkes Booth jumps off after he shoots Lincoln, he

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 1>jumps off on the stage and he broke his leg.

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't predate that, really, no, I don't believe.

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:37.800
<v Speaker 1>So it was it was started in the eighteen sixties,

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 1>is what I Again, I could be complete.

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 3>So he broke his leg, and then why would we

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:42.279
<v Speaker 3>say that to.

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Wish them because the show it was there was a

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 1>whole theory about it. It was like the show which

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:49.840
<v Speaker 1>was our American cousin at the time at Ford's Theatre

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 1>was going very well, and so it is it's kind

0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 1>of like the it's kind of saying the opposite. It's

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>it's wishing you good luck by wishing bad luck. And

0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:00.160
<v Speaker 1>then there's this whole breakdown of it came out. It

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 1>was very strange I have my favorite discuss.

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:04.479
<v Speaker 5>I did a play in Australia and they say chuck

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 5>us before you go on stage, which means, I hope

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 5>you win a chicken, because in the old Australian tradition

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:13.280
<v Speaker 5>they would tour around Australia and if you did well,

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 5>the town that you came to would provide you with

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 5>chicken so the actors could eat that night.

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:21.400
<v Speaker 4>So it's just such like an old chuck as I

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:21.839
<v Speaker 4>love it.

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's kind of brilliant.

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, Nancy, we are honestly just so grateful that

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 3>you came here and did this little conversation with us,

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 3>but also more importantly, we are so proud to have

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:41.280
<v Speaker 3>you in the lexicon of incredible Boy Meets World guest stars.

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 3>You are just incredibly classy and we just admire you

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 3>so much and are so thankful that you spent your

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 3>spent any of your time not only here with us

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.800
<v Speaker 3>today but doing Boy Meets World. And one of the

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 3>things we've talked about is that we are trying to

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 3>invent a time machine and master time travel so that

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 3>we could go back and do things that didn't get

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 3>to do then, and one of them is I'd like

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:04.240
<v Speaker 3>to have you on the set of Boy Meets World

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 3>out of Lake Placid? Have you on set with us

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 3>spending time with all of us?

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 6>I think for ever a reboot or something, Yep, call me,

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 6>I'll I'd love to do it.

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 7>And I just want to say before we go, it

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 7>sounds like we're getting to the end there. But there

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 7>was I did a show the other night in Boston

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:23.759
<v Speaker 7>and there was a woman that came up to me.

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 7>She was like, they mentioned you on the podcast The

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 7>Boyman's World podcasting a couple months ago, and I was like, oh, well,

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 7>I'm doing it Tuesday, and she's like, what really from Boston,

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:36.680
<v Speaker 7>Like they've changed my life.

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 6>So you guys have changed people's lives for the better.

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 7>And Jen in Boston was like thrilled that I was

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 7>going to be part of it, and she's like a

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 7>huge fan, and so I'm.

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:49.240
<v Speaker 3>Just that is so nice.

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 2>Was awesome.

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 6>It was it was random. She had no idea it

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:54.440
<v Speaker 6>was going to be on.

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, we've kept we've kept you a secret.

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I have I have one quote, have a couple questions.

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 1>The first is very briefly, if we manage to go

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:05.239
<v Speaker 1>to Boston, will you come out and hang out with us.

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Of course, we'd love to see you in person. That's great.

0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Second, unfortunately, we are nowhere near actually inventing the time

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 1>travel machine. I know, it's really just still in the

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 1>design phases at this at this point.

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:22.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we have a Google doc going.

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 1>It's working, it's not going well. Third, and very briefly,

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:28.240
<v Speaker 1>because you mentioned this at the beginning, if you marry

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 1>your agent, do they still get ten percent?

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 6>Well, but I get it all back anyway.

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:36.960
<v Speaker 1>That's right, That's what I'm Okay, I'm just curious how

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I was curious how that was working.

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, Will.

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:41.720
<v Speaker 3>Thinking about marrying his agent.

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 4>Now he's like, what did I do wrong?

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:44.879
<v Speaker 6>He's super nice.

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 2>He treats me well. I could do a lot worse.

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to be a tough conversation with

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 2>my wife.

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 3>But for ten percent, technically would be fifty percent of

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 3>the ten percent.

0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:58.479
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think you're right. I got to do the math.

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 2>It's never good with me.

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:03.879
<v Speaker 3>Oh my, Nancy, thank you so much for being here

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 3>with us. And we are actually going to hit you

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 3>up about that Boston situation. We're gonna we're gonna we'd

0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:10.880
<v Speaker 3>like to do a face to face reunion.

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 6>That would be fun. I'd love it.

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for being here.

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 7>Thanks guys, it was an honor to be part of

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:20.239
<v Speaker 7>the show and to in the podcast as well with

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 7>all of you.

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:21.479
<v Speaker 6>It was fun.

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. Lit again was Seriously, I've said

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:25.440
<v Speaker 1>it before and I'll say it again. It was one

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite memories of Boy Metrol that always will be.

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 1>It was such a magical day for me. So thank

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you for making it so cool.

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 2>It really was. It really was a ton of fun.

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:40.839
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, bye, Thanks bye, oh Man, so classy and inspiring.

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:42.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna take.

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Anything away from Aksana Bayule, obviously, but Nancy Carrigan won

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 1>that Olympics.

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 2>She won the gold medal med Olympics.

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:52.839
<v Speaker 1>She I'm sorry, and again Axana trains in the town

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 1>next to where I grew up in Connecticut, So certainly

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 1>not trying to take anything away from her, but with

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:00.120
<v Speaker 1>not only with everything she came she went through, but

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:02.760
<v Speaker 1>when you actually watch I know a little bit about skating.

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:04.719
<v Speaker 2>I dated a skater for a while and.

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Got was she the actress who played the skater on

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Boy Meets World? Because no, she was dated everyone.

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:09.799
<v Speaker 6>She was.

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 1>She was the in h double hockey stick. She was

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the stand in skater for the actual skater.

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 4>There skater and we dated for years.

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Her name was Quila and we dated for years, and

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 1>she was was picked to be the Canadian national figure

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:24.360
<v Speaker 1>skating champion and then got mono the year she everyone

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>thought she was Yeah, so, but she was in this

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:27.799
<v Speaker 1>world for a long time.

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:28.319
<v Speaker 2>It's a very.

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Difficult would you give her mono?

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. This was before me.

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Thanks, okay, all right, But she.

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Showed me a bit about this world, so I, you know,

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:37.840
<v Speaker 1>got into it and watched a little bit of it.

0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 2>And when you watch Nancy Kerrigan's program forgetting even everything

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:43.879
<v Speaker 2>she went through to get there.

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.759
<v Speaker 1>She won that Olympics, so it's that they you know,

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of theories as to why she actually

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:52.280
<v Speaker 1>was given the silver instead of the gold, and then

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:57.320
<v Speaker 1>there's very little spoken about how she handled that entire

0:46:57.400 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 1>situation because she handled it like an actual ampion, where

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 1>she's like, Nope, not going to talk about it, not

0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:04.800
<v Speaker 1>going to mention it, not going to do press conference,

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 1>is not going to do any of there still does

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:07.720
<v Speaker 1>It's going to rehab and skate.

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:09.000
<v Speaker 2>That is my job.

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:11.000
<v Speaker 5>And she have been thinking about what you know what

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:14.880
<v Speaker 5>Danielle's first question to her about the situation, you know,

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 5>the difference between the nineties and now, and you know,

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 5>I it's hard to like remember the nineties, like the

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:25.400
<v Speaker 5>early nineties and then all the way up through the

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 5>oughts where that tabloid time, like it's a different it

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 5>was a different press mentality where there would be literally

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 5>one story, whether it's Monica Lewinsky, Princess Diana or you know, whatever,

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 5>there would be and like usually the more frivolous and petty,

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:44.280
<v Speaker 5>the bigger it would become. And it would just become

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 5>this fever over the nation for.

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:49.560
<v Speaker 3>Like months, Yeah, and anybody would talk.

0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 5>About and then and it was like, and you know,

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 5>it's just that we've talked about this before, but that monoculture,

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 5>it was like it almost becomes it's it's becomes a

0:47:57.040 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 5>self perpetuating cycle because it's like the only way you

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:02.400
<v Speaker 5>the only thing people like, only thing comedians can reference

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 5>in their stand up, The only thing like SNL can

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 5>do bits about. The only thing that like if you

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:09.279
<v Speaker 5>meet a stranger in the street you can sort of

0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:10.160
<v Speaker 5>have in common is.

0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:12.560
<v Speaker 4>Like, oh, how do you feel about Nancy Kerrigan and

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:14.600
<v Speaker 4>Tanya Hart it's like who gives a crap?

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 5>You know, at a certain point, like you hear about

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 5>the actual attack, you hear about okay, criminal charges or whatever.

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 5>Maybe that's like wow. But for it to like grip

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 5>a nation and become this like soap opera, it's just

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:28.360
<v Speaker 5>it's and I don't think that that would happen the

0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:30.880
<v Speaker 5>same way today. I don't think because I feel like,

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, these kinds of stories would they might crop up,

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 5>but then hopefully now we're more sensitive to the to

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:41.399
<v Speaker 5>the multiplicity of sides, do you know what I mean?

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:44.200
<v Speaker 4>Like at the time, you know, all narratives.

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 5>Really I feel like the narratives back then would be

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:51.760
<v Speaker 5>really easily compartmentalized into good guy, bad guy or good girl,

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:54.720
<v Speaker 5>bad girl, villain hero, and like I feel like that's

0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 5>more like nowadays things are much quickly, much quicker to

0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 5>be reassessed for better or worse, you know, because then

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 5>everybody has an opinion, and then everybody has a side,

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:09.319
<v Speaker 5>and so everything sort of loses meaning half the time.

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 2>But that's the thing.

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:13.920
<v Speaker 1>We're also we as a society now have we have

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>no patience and we have no staying power. So twenty

0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:19.839
<v Speaker 1>four to forty eight hour cycle and you move on

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:21.600
<v Speaker 1>to the next story. That's I don't think it has

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:23.640
<v Speaker 1>anything to do with reevaluating the sides. I think it's

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 1>just what's next, what's next, what's next? Nobody can wait

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.399
<v Speaker 1>for anything. We need to be barraged with as much

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:33.240
<v Speaker 1>imagery and horribleness as we possibly can, and it becomes

0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 1>all encompassing. It's like two days now was two months

0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:40.959
<v Speaker 1>back in the nineties. Because you know, the thing about

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:43.279
<v Speaker 1>the tiny hearting Nancy Kerrigan thing is when you when

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:45.800
<v Speaker 1>you watch the whole story, it was pretty gripping because

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:48.960
<v Speaker 1>when they, you know, actually had to go to the Olympics,

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:50.920
<v Speaker 1>they had to practice on the same ice.

0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:53.080
<v Speaker 2>They were there at the same time.

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you know.

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Tanya is Tanya Harding is is about to be kicked

0:49:58.239 --> 0:49:58.799
<v Speaker 1>off the team.

0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 2>They don't know if she's even going to make it

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:01.440
<v Speaker 2>to the Olympics.

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:03.960
<v Speaker 1>She's under the chances are she's going to be, you know,

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:07.600
<v Speaker 1>indicted for attacking a fellow skater or having people attack

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:09.280
<v Speaker 1>or whether she knows about it, whether she doesn't.

0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:10.840
<v Speaker 2>But people can speculate all they want.

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 1>But then you've got Nancy Carrigan, who was America's sweetheart

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:17.719
<v Speaker 1>and they've got to skate around each other with an

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:21.440
<v Speaker 1>audience even just to practice. I think even now that

0:50:21.480 --> 0:50:22.880
<v Speaker 1>would be pretty grippulo.

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 5>See nowadays those But see nowadays, everybody involved with it

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:31.160
<v Speaker 5>would have instant access to basically publish their opinions or

0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 5>publish their own point of view, whereas back then it

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:37.320
<v Speaker 5>was always filtered by you know, Ruper Murdoch or whoever

0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 5>was running the tabloids, you know, who could sort of

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:42.359
<v Speaker 5>control the narrative, whereas like now, like Nancy Carigan would

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:45.080
<v Speaker 5>be able to tweet, would be able to put on Instagram.

0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:47.920
<v Speaker 5>Everybody would be able to publish their own thoughts and

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:49.879
<v Speaker 5>their own for better or worse. I'm I'm just saying

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.719
<v Speaker 5>it's different. It's very different. Yeah, And I think part

0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:56.520
<v Speaker 5>of that difference is that that hopefully people are empowered

0:50:56.640 --> 0:50:59.480
<v Speaker 5>to at least express themselves, Like you know, Nancy Carigan

0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 5>would have able to say at the time, I'm just

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:03.640
<v Speaker 5>going to skate, like you know, some sort of version

0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:07.000
<v Speaker 5>of like presenting that classiness that you pointed out, Like,

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:07.759
<v Speaker 5>you know.

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 4>Maybe that would have been better.

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know who it's you know, I wonder

0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:13.399
<v Speaker 1>anyone would have said anything. I don't think, I don't know, Yeah,

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:15.920
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't seem like she wants she would have, But

0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:17.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, the flip side is what she also pointed

0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:19.680
<v Speaker 1>out was that people tag her when they dress their

0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:20.439
<v Speaker 1>kids up, like.

0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think what what gets lost so much?

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 6>Is that?

0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 3>Like what we talked about with her, this was probably

0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:30.359
<v Speaker 3>the most one of the most traumatic things that had

0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:32.800
<v Speaker 3>ever happened to her up until that point in her life.

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:37.440
<v Speaker 3>And to even then, what she mentioned that I hadn't

0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:40.759
<v Speaker 3>even really ever thought of, is even just gaining the

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:44.760
<v Speaker 3>confidence to go back out in front of a group

0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 3>of people and do what you had been had been

0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:50.920
<v Speaker 3>doing your entire life, not knowing how has it changed?

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:51.279
<v Speaker 4>How?

0:51:51.360 --> 0:51:53.239
<v Speaker 3>How what is the perception of me now? What will

0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:57.000
<v Speaker 3>the response be? Will they clap? Will they like? I

0:51:57.040 --> 0:52:00.799
<v Speaker 3>don't think anybody could really even fathom how difficult that

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:03.359
<v Speaker 3>was for her, and she had to just bury her

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:06.200
<v Speaker 3>head in the sand. I mean, it would have been

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:08.959
<v Speaker 3>impossible for her to block out that noise. And now, still,

0:52:09.000 --> 0:52:11.000
<v Speaker 3>like she said, thirty years later, she still can't really

0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:12.719
<v Speaker 3>block it out because she gets tagged in things and

0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:15.480
<v Speaker 3>people bring it up. So yeah, I mean, it really is.

0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:18.719
<v Speaker 3>It's very interesting, you know, I really I don't know

0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:20.319
<v Speaker 3>how it would be different. I know it would be

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:23.759
<v Speaker 3>different now if it were to happen again. But it's

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:26.680
<v Speaker 3>truly remarkable what she, you know, went through and what

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.400
<v Speaker 3>she's accomplished in her life, and you know, then she

0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:30.359
<v Speaker 3>was on Boymet's world.

0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:33.319
<v Speaker 1>It just it sucks a little bit that with all

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:35.520
<v Speaker 1>all of her accomplishments, one of the things she's going

0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:38.759
<v Speaker 1>to be remembered for is something that was done to her.

0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she had nothing to do with it was done

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:41.719
<v Speaker 2>to her.

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, man, I just worked my ass off

0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:46.440
<v Speaker 1>for twenty years to do this.

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:49.560
<v Speaker 3>And my hope is, like she mentioned that there was

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 3>a lot of positives that still came out of it. Yeah,

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 3>that people who may have never known anything about ice skating.

0:52:56.440 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Who's maybe and you know intro to ice skating? Is

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:02.080
<v Speaker 3>what tell me about this attack? And then and who

0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:04.120
<v Speaker 3>did it happen to? And what is she famous for?

0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:05.719
<v Speaker 3>Let me look up a video of her and then

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:09.040
<v Speaker 3>you you know the So one hopes that the ripple

0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:13.360
<v Speaker 3>effect becomes an education about who she is as a whole,

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:16.080
<v Speaker 3>instead of this one part of her life that she

0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:18.239
<v Speaker 3>had no control over that was you know, traumatic for her,

0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 3>But I love that she.

0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Was a Boy Meets World fan. I know love that

0:53:22.280 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 1>she was a Boy meets World fan. And I've seen

0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Girl Meets World two. I think that's really cool.

0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is cool. Well, thank you for joining us

0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:30.120
<v Speaker 3>for this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you

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0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 3>and as always, again we have merch ha hat. He

0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:50.880
<v Speaker 3>sounded a little like the serie Ghost. Yes, ellel.

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<v Speaker 4>We're so funny, my lord.

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