WEBVTT - Hour 1 – Home Run Derby, Dr. Tom Smith

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the program. It's our one on this Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan and the Dan Nets. Dan Patrick's show Home Run Derby,

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<v Speaker 2>fast paced, a lot of fun. Vlad Guerrero Junior the

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<v Speaker 2>third following in his father's footsteps as your home run champ.

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<v Speaker 2>Northwestern fires their head coach Pat Fitzgerald. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>how the story got started, changed, and then the fallout here.

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<v Speaker 2>I was curious what were the expectations for Northwestern's football

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<v Speaker 2>program this year according to DraftKings. Anybody want to guess

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<v Speaker 2>what the over under for wins was was for Northwestern

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<v Speaker 2>before their head coach just got fined Seaton, I'll start

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<v Speaker 2>with you. Four and a half, four and a half,

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<v Speaker 2>Marvin two and a half, Todd five and a half, PAULI.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's still available. Three and a half, three and.

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<v Speaker 2>A half is correct, Congratulations. I don't know what it

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<v Speaker 2>is now, but the expectations weren't too high. That factor

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<v Speaker 2>in coming off a one and eleven season, four wins

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<v Speaker 2>in the last two years, and not expected to be

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<v Speaker 2>a factor in the Big ten. All right, eight seven

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<v Speaker 2>seven three DP show email address DPA Danpatrick dot Com

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<v Speaker 2>able to see what Seaton looks like after his Italian

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<v Speaker 2>vacation job. Oh do you you speaking fluently? Now? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what we're going to sound like when we

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<v Speaker 2>get back from Ireland at the end of August. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>probably we'll have a little Will Fritzy and Marvin have

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of an Irish accent?

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<v Speaker 1>Possibly?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I keep doing the Pirates, it's not that's not how

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<v Speaker 2>the Irish soundale Oldishalale.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like their version of my Sharona.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, Marvin, Yeah, how's your Irish anccent?

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<v Speaker 5>It's non existent? Okay, but when I get there, work

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<v Speaker 5>on it.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I walked in the backroom, guys, go

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<v Speaker 2>have you talked to Todd yet? I go no, Why

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<v Speaker 2>is he on drugs? And I go no, Todd doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>do drugs.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been asked that though over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but they wanted to know the backroom guys, the

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<v Speaker 2>big german Dylan. They came to me and pulled me

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<v Speaker 2>aside and said, is Todd okay today? How about we

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<v Speaker 2>just get it out there in case you're not okay,

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<v Speaker 2>At least the audience is aware.

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<v Speaker 6>I popped in to say that tied to the guys

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<v Speaker 6>before our pre show meeting, and I started doing scenes

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<v Speaker 6>from The Shining because over the holiday break I watched

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<v Speaker 6>it like two or three times, and I just there's

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<v Speaker 6>something that draws me to that particular movie. So I

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<v Speaker 6>was just, without them asking, I just decided to start

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<v Speaker 6>doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Why didn't you give us a little sample there?

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<v Speaker 4>Mister Grady, you were the caretaker here. I read about

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<v Speaker 4>you in the newspaper. You were chopped up your daughters

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<v Speaker 4>into little bits. No, mister Torrence, you are the caretaker.

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<v Speaker 4>You've always been the caretaker.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>Your son is a very wilful boy, rather naughty boy.

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<v Speaker 7>If I may be so bold, sir, perhaps he needs

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<v Speaker 7>to be corrected. And your wife is interfering with your duties.

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<v Speaker 7>Perhaps she needs correcting too, if I may be so bold, So.

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<v Speaker 2>You could understand why the backroom guys might have been

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<v Speaker 2>a little concerned that Todd came in unprovoked and then

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<v Speaker 2>just started to quote movie lines.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Paul, yeah, I walked in on this and the

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<v Speaker 3>guys in the back look like they are being subjected

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<v Speaker 3>to something like where they had to be locked in

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<v Speaker 3>a room and just have this told him.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean the look we have every day that we're

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<v Speaker 2>being subjected, Ram, Ram.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why the partition is nice.

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<v Speaker 8>It feels like a wall where I can tune it

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<v Speaker 8>out a lot more easily if it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was just true.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very true.

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<v Speaker 2>the way, yesterday I was recamping my fly fishing trip

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<v Speaker 2>to Montana and my guide talked about when he encountered

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<v Speaker 2>a bear. He's actually encountered a couple of bears. But

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<v Speaker 2>he's one of those real outdoorsmen, real men, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes and hunts for his food for the winter.

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<v Speaker 2>He lives in a small cabin, he cuts his own firewood.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was recapping some of the conversations I had

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<v Speaker 2>with my guide, and I was accused of maybe misleading

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<v Speaker 2>people of what happens if you run into a bear.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to have a wildlife expert who will

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<v Speaker 2>join us coming up later on this hour. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a public service announcement, because the last thing I want

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<v Speaker 2>is somebody to say, well, wait a minute. You told

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<v Speaker 2>us that this is what you do when you encounter

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<v Speaker 2>a black bear or a brown bear or a white bear. Yes, Seaton, you.

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<v Speaker 8>Got to stay in your lanes a little bear, yes, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>stay in your forest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not encounter a bear when I went fly fish.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank god.

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<v Speaker 8>No, that is not anything high on my list of

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<v Speaker 8>life things. I don't ever want to see a bear.

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<v Speaker 9>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been fishing before in British Columbia and across

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<v Speaker 2>the river was a bear, a mom, a bear and

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<v Speaker 2>a cub. Well, that's a bad thing to encounter whenever

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<v Speaker 2>mom's involved, that's where trouble is lurking. But the bears

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<v Speaker 2>were just getting salmon, so they didn't care about me whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's my only encounter with a bear. Mike Ditka,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and Jim McMahon, those are the other bears

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<v Speaker 2>that I've encountered.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, there was a bear in my backyard Vermont about

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<v Speaker 3>four years h I was with my daughter, but we

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<v Speaker 3>were on the deck of the house, a little back deck,

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<v Speaker 3>and so there's a wood railing and that it was

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<v Speaker 3>I would say sixty feet away, so neither close nor

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<v Speaker 3>like where you were nervous, but you sat there in

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<v Speaker 3>silence watching it. But as soon as we made like

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<v Speaker 3>a little noise, the bear just shot up in the

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<v Speaker 3>woods and took off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're afraid of us, at least that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I've been led to believe. But then somebody says, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, why didn't you fake like you're dead?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>And I go, no, No, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>In the old days, that's what you were talking. They'll

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<v Speaker 3>lay down and act like you're not alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I'm guessing that they're going to want to

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<v Speaker 2>eat you if they think you're dead. That all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to work that hard, but I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to have somebody on. We have a wildlife expert who

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<v Speaker 2>join us coming up a little bit later on, just

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<v Speaker 2>so just in case you encounter a bear.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes see, that's why I like when you go into

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<v Speaker 8>like some like outdoors stores and you're looking to buy

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know, a new backpack or whatever this and that,

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<v Speaker 8>and they have a bear bell. Oh, just put this

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<v Speaker 8>little bell on your backpack and that'll scare it away.

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<v Speaker 1>Get out of here, or bear spray. Yeah, I like that.

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<v Speaker 8>I like I like the bear spray a lot better

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<v Speaker 8>than the little bell that goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they you cant sneak up on it. You'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, We're gonna start with something kind of light hearted easy.

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<v Speaker 8>This is from a Twitter account called blob Costas who's

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<v Speaker 8>been very active. Which sounds better? Slam dunk champion, home

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<v Speaker 8>run Derby champion, which sounds better? Okay, you'd be more

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<v Speaker 8>proud to say, like, oh, yeah I was slam dunk champion,

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<v Speaker 8>or oh I won the home run derby once.

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<v Speaker 2>Feels like the home run derby carries a little more

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<v Speaker 2>significance than slam dunk.

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<v Speaker 8>The slam dunk contest is. Those are feats of athleticism.

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<v Speaker 8>I know that, especially modern times.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>And you are hung up on being able to dunk,

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<v Speaker 2>and you wish you would have been able to dunk,

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<v Speaker 2>and you want to know what that feeling is like

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people share that. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's just me. Yeah, yes, well you're the

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<v Speaker 2>only one in the room here who is well, everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else dunk, so yeah, obviously except for top.

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<v Speaker 1>Feeling left out? Yeah anymore I cannot dunk?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, Marvin, what I think?

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<v Speaker 5>Twenty years ago, being the slam dunk Champion was a

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<v Speaker 5>real thing. Yeah, but now if I say Jeremy Evans,

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<v Speaker 5>you're like, who He won a slam dunk contest one year,

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<v Speaker 5>so it really doesn't hold weight like that. Mc mcclunn

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<v Speaker 5>was in the G League and won the slam Dunk Contest.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremy Evans won the slam Dunk contest.

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<v Speaker 5>Cut stat of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see who Jeremy Evans is.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on a second, it's not Jeremy Grant.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm pretty pi to the face Jeremy Evans.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, can we check that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this conversation tells us which one we want

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<v Speaker 3>to be.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, exactly who won the home run derby last year?

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Alonso? Who?

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<v Speaker 1>What the year before that?

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Alonzo?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Bally slam dunk. Mac McClung obi topping in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two, Anthony Simmons, Simons whatever, twenty one, Yeah he's okay,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty, Derek Jones, Junior Diallo, Donovan Mitchell, Glenn Robinson,

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<v Speaker 3>the Third, Zach Lavine, Zach Lavine, John Wall, Jeremy Evans

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>But the jazz Let's go okay, right man? He would

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<v Speaker 2>have made some money off that, Jeremy Evans.

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<v Speaker 5>So Homer and Derby is the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would think so. I think when Doctor j

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<v Speaker 2>was in it and Dominique and Jordan, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it mattered. I don't think it matters as much.

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, Mac McClung was unbelievable, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>we said that going in he was gonna win. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a novelty in a variety of ways with mac McClung.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, ob topping, I forgot that he won. Yes, Ton,

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 5>It's definitely the slam dunk.

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<v Speaker 6>The way I look at it is what can you

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<v Speaker 6>prove or show to everyone? A lot easier you can

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<v Speaker 6>grab a ball and go to your local park and

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<v Speaker 6>show off your dunking skills, but baseball you have to

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<v Speaker 6>go fight a field and someone have to pitch to

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<v Speaker 6>you and show that you can hit it four hundred

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<v Speaker 6>feet or whatever. I always look at that way if

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<v Speaker 6>you want to if you're the heavyweight champ, I can't

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<v Speaker 6>fight anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>In this room, or I can.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you can just show it up like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what your logic was right there,

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<v Speaker 2>Because you're considered the fastest man.

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<v Speaker 5>You can count anyone at any time to a race.

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<v Speaker 5>There are things where you can just right there on

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<v Speaker 5>the spot prove you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Also I have to go to a baseball field to

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<v Speaker 2>prove I can hit a baseball four hundred.

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<v Speaker 5>Which would be complicated. That's why I would rather be

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<v Speaker 5>the slam double.

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<v Speaker 2>What if I was just playing a pickup game of

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<v Speaker 2>baseball and I hit it four hundred feet?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but how often do you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Back in my youth? You know I would do that,

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<v Speaker 2>but not anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>And most parks.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't have like numbers like three eighty four ten, You

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<v Speaker 6>have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>No, If you hit it far enough, that's when people go, holy,

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<v Speaker 2>got all of that one?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, slam dunk contest at your local park? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>what you're saying that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>You're kind in and around I'm saying you have to

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<v Speaker 5>jump over a car or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 6>But oh, look at that dunk, and that's you know,

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<v Speaker 6>goes viral as opposed to someone lobbing at a ball

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<v Speaker 6>to you for batting.

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<v Speaker 2>But I could, I could dunk, but I couldn't hit

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<v Speaker 2>a ball four hundred feet. You know, you can dunk, but.

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<v Speaker 1>That you get one over the fence?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, right, So that that's like you're the equivalent of

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<v Speaker 8>And I'm sorry if I'm being disrespectful to your hops,

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<v Speaker 8>but was your ability to dunk equivalent to hitting a

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<v Speaker 8>four hundred foot home run?

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<v Speaker 9>Now?

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<v Speaker 8>Were you able to get it over the fence, so

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<v Speaker 8>to speak, as a dunk?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there's a lot of people who can just

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<v Speaker 2>get it over the rim and dunk.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There are not a lot of people who can hit

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<v Speaker 2>it four hundred There are probably more people who could

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<v Speaker 2>get up, you know and have a rub dunk as.

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<v Speaker 8>We call it, but not enough people to have the

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<v Speaker 8>slam dunk equivalent of a four hundred foot home run.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah right, yeah, like a crazy like windmill, yes, you

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<v Speaker 8>know whatever, there's not I mean, there's a lot there's

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<v Speaker 8>a good amount of people who could do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Being lobbed in and right in the exact spot.

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<v Speaker 6>Then you've asked the picture to put it.

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<v Speaker 2>In and you're still taking pictures. Nobody's guard dunk Todd, Yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Have the ability to.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm not talking about a rub dunk after about

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<v Speaker 6>whoa you got up there and spun around.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, no, that's not that's not how this is working.

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<v Speaker 2>We just talked about dunking, and I said hitting a

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<v Speaker 2>home run, hitting a four hundred feet or just getting

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<v Speaker 2>a regular dunk four hundred it's more impressive even if

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<v Speaker 2>you put it on a t Yes, Marvin, I was.

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<v Speaker 5>Just talking about star power. I ain't mean the starting Okay, sorry, yes, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>It does feel like the NBA doesn't have any star power,

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<v Speaker 3>rarely has star power, and a slam dunk contest like

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Gordon was a border line star, Zach Lavine is

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<v Speaker 3>a border line star. If you get invited the Major

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<v Speaker 3>League Baseball Home Run Derby, you're one of the best

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<v Speaker 3>home run hitters in the league and the best on

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<v Speaker 3>your team. Pete A. Lonzo is a star as a star.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, most of these guys who were in the home

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<v Speaker 2>run derby. You know you're aware of them. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the guys who were in the slam dunk contest,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, okay, who's this? Yes, I forgot about

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<v Speaker 2>the name value.

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<v Speaker 6>As far as which one would you rather show up

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<v Speaker 6>when someone's coming to your house or what sounds like

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<v Speaker 6>a bigger deal.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like you won the slam dunk content. I won

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<v Speaker 5>the home run Derby. I hit hit thirty eight when

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<v Speaker 5>they were lobbing it in and I knew exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Crushed it is that how Pete Alonzo taught. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you should talk.

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<v Speaker 6>That way based on what that is that accomplishment, even

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<v Speaker 6>if you wanted two to three times.

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<v Speaker 1>Atlie Russian might talk like that.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I hit it four hundred feet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a souvenir. Yes, that's a suit.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what. Chris Berman couldn't do the home run

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<v Speaker 2>Derby contest now because it is such a faster pace

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<v Speaker 2>home run derby, so it's basically throw And I wondered

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<v Speaker 2>about this for years. We have to wait until it lands,

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<v Speaker 2>and at least we used to. So Chris Berman could

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<v Speaker 2>give you.

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<v Speaker 1>The back back back back, back back back back.

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<v Speaker 2>On he can't do that now because as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>you throw it, as soon as they hit it, you

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<v Speaker 2>throw it again, and therefore it's there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>action going on, so much so vlad Guerrero Junior the

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<v Speaker 2>third had to take a knee, like he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I need a time out here. But that's what happens

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<v Speaker 2>with trying to win your round. That you know, Julio

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<v Speaker 2>Rodriguez had forty one home runs. Well, that gets you

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<v Speaker 2>to the next round and knocks out Pete Alonzo, But

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't help you when you get to the next

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<v Speaker 2>round where you're spent.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, Marvin, the best part about the home run Derby

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<v Speaker 5>is the most memorable rounds. They those people never win

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<v Speaker 5>the home run Derby, like Maguire, Josh Hamilton, those guys

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<v Speaker 5>had incredible round, Bobby, A break you one year they

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<v Speaker 5>had like eighty nine home runs in a round and

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<v Speaker 5>like Justin Murnau won it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where what you hit like thirteen or something in

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<v Speaker 2>the final consistency. But I think that they should have

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<v Speaker 2>that total, like the total should mean something with the

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<v Speaker 2>home run Derby. Here we are arguing the home run Derby, Yes, Ton, and.

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<v Speaker 6>You need a break and you need a break and

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<v Speaker 6>you need some gatorade and you need your teammates took away.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, how about this with your slam dunk said,

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<v Speaker 2>since you're a big slam dunk proponent, if you miss

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<v Speaker 2>the dunk, you don't get penalized, right, remember when.

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<v Speaker 1>They did that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like you could either do todd how about that?

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<v Speaker 2>And where's your there?

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<v Speaker 6>You should be penalized if you try something and it

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't work out. But I think the embarrassment alone is

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<v Speaker 6>enough of a I don't think whatever I was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they don't seem too embarrassed when they missed that.

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<v Speaker 8>But if you only got one pitch for the home

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<v Speaker 8>run derby as soon as you missed when you were out,

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<v Speaker 8>that's the equivalent of like missing a dunk.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, No, they let you keep going with when you

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<v Speaker 2>miss a dunk.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah yeah, and we're complaining about like, no, you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 8>be able to keep going, right. It's like gleam. If

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<v Speaker 8>you keep missing it over and over again, then you

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<v Speaker 8>finally get it that one time. It's like oh, on

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<v Speaker 8>your twelfth time, isn't it work?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to do that. Look, I'm a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who's homeward and I'm a guy who's dunk. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying the only one of the room qualified to

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<v Speaker 2>really speak about this. Trust me when I tell you, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know what that feeling is like? Dead center

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<v Speaker 2>against u lebon lebnon high school. Ye, dead center.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the picture's name?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know, not even worth remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh uh he probably made it to the show. Probably,

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I called him when I circle the basis, Hey, meet,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. How about we take a break here?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I just want to add that the home run

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<v Speaker 6>every the picture should be trying to get the batter out.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my dad, well, my uncle or my team.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to strike you out.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll not give you a.

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<v Speaker 1>Good picture that. Wow, look at that?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yes, did you see the Mets picture with Pete Alonzo?

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<v Speaker 3>He was throwing them all outside.

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<v Speaker 1>He was terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the best.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you buy a Met picture all year?

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<v Speaker 2>How about we take a break here. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what we accomplished, but we'll regroup here. Gang sell here

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<v Speaker 2>people reacting to what's more impressive. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be the slam dunk champ or you do win home

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<v Speaker 2>run derby? And then somebody said, well, Michael Jordan could

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<v Speaker 2>have hit a home run, but I doubt if Pee

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<v Speaker 2>Alonso could dunk. I don't know if Pete Alonso is

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<v Speaker 2>a great athlete or not, but I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>rule that out. Yeah, I think Michael Jordan could have

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<v Speaker 2>hit a home run, but especially in BP like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know if Pete Alonso can do like

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<v Speaker 2>a three sixty. Probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that duncan from the free throw line?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably? Probably, Okay, let's be fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Petere Alonzo may have Matt Hopps.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>He's six ' three. I mean, you look at Charles

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<v Speaker 2>Barkley and you probably didn't think he was a great athlete.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm comparing Pete Alonzo to Charles Barton's health. The

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<v Speaker 2>case here, all right, big story yesterday Northwestern fires their

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<v Speaker 2>head football coach Pat Fitzgerald amid hazing claims here. And

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<v Speaker 2>this was a little confusing here from the standpoint of

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<v Speaker 2>we had a Friday story, discipline, two week suspension for

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Fitzgerald, a six month investigation, and then Monday he

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<v Speaker 2>gets fired. Nothing I don't think change from Friday to Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>except for the public reaction here. But Pat Fitzgerald is

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight years of age and coming off a season

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<v Speaker 2>where they won one game, and they had a six

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<v Speaker 2>month investigation. You know, credit to the Daily Northwestern because

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<v Speaker 2>they published a story detailing allegations from former a former

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<v Speaker 2>player who described specific instances of hazing and sexual abuse. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>who knew and when did they know? Pat Fitzgerald, did

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<v Speaker 2>he know? Should he have known? What about the coach

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<v Speaker 2>on his staff? What about juniors or seniors who were

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<v Speaker 2>on the team who maybe took part in the hazing?

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<v Speaker 1>Here?

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<v Speaker 2>If we're going to do a deep dive in here,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you want to fire Pat Fitzgerald, fire him.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't really know him. He's been on

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<v Speaker 2>the show a couple of times. In fact, last year

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<v Speaker 2>when they went to Ireland, before they played in Ireland,

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<v Speaker 2>we had him on. From all accounts, upstanding coach, done

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<v Speaker 2>a great job at Northwestern.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than that.

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<v Speaker 2>If he's guilty of this, you want to fire him,

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<v Speaker 2>fire him, But I want to know who else knew

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<v Speaker 2>about this? What did you know? Did the president know?

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<v Speaker 2>But then he didn't reveal everything that he knew? When

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<v Speaker 2>did he know? You know, you can look at this

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<v Speaker 2>and say it's systemic that there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people who knew this, and it's been going on for

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<v Speaker 2>a while, okay, and I'm going to guess that there's

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<v Speaker 2>hazing that continues all across the country. Also, you know,

0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.520
<v Speaker 2>the students who are covering this story may look at

0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.120
<v Speaker 2>this different differently than somebody who's been in the business

0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.880
<v Speaker 2>for thirty years because they would probably say, yeah, tough enough,

0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 2>whereas students are going no, no, no, no, that shouldn't

0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:13.560
<v Speaker 2>exist anymore. It never should have existed. You know, the

0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:17.639
<v Speaker 2>tradition of that of hazing. But I talked to a

0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:22.280
<v Speaker 2>former college coach last night and he said it does continue.

0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:25.200
<v Speaker 2>It does exist, he said, but it's always been a

0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 2>little more covert because of you know, what's at stake here.

0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:31.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, do coaches look the other way or wink

0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:34.960
<v Speaker 2>about it? Yes, I don't know if they all do.

0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:37.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going by somebody who used to coach coach

0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:40.480
<v Speaker 2>on a big time level for a long time and

0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:43.920
<v Speaker 2>just getting sort of feedback here of how does this

0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:48.479
<v Speaker 2>happen if you know what's happening. You know, there's sexual

0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:51.639
<v Speaker 2>assault that could be involved in this. You know this

0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:54.239
<v Speaker 2>isn't you know, we're just smacking you a little bit.

0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:56.879
<v Speaker 2>Or you're drinking. You know, if you're ever pledged in

0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.879
<v Speaker 2>a fraternity, Hey, you got to drink until you throw up.

0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Or we're going to put an egg in this pledge's

0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:04.840
<v Speaker 2>mouth and then you pass it all the way down

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:07.359
<v Speaker 2>and the last guy has to swallow it. You know,

0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:11.720
<v Speaker 2>these are the things that happen when you're in you know,

0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:15.920
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote hazing. What they're talking about seems like it's

0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:18.280
<v Speaker 2>a whole different level here at Northwestern.

0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Yes, according to the official Independent investigation that the President

0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:25.080
<v Speaker 3>released some details from Yes right, The hazing was well

0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 3>known by many in the program, though the investigator failed

0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:31.440
<v Speaker 3>to find any evidence that coach Fitzgerald himself knew about it. So,

0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:36.920
<v Speaker 3>according to the investigation, not people's opinion, Fitzgerald did not

0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:39.160
<v Speaker 3>know this was going on during his time as head coach.

0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 3>Now does that change it for any of you guys?

0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Speaker 3>How you look at this story?

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, if I'm Pat Fitzgerald, of course I didn't know

0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:51.440
<v Speaker 2>anything about this. Why would I admit that I knew

0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:54.360
<v Speaker 2>anything about this? So you know, once again, when you're

0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:57.200
<v Speaker 2>hearing these comments, do I think Pat Fitzgerald knew about it?

0:22:57.359 --> 0:22:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But if I'm him, I'm not ignored

0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:03.359
<v Speaker 2>knowledging I knew about it. Did the other coaches know

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:06.359
<v Speaker 2>about this? You know? Was there pressure, you know for

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.359
<v Speaker 2>them to come forward? But they never did? You know?

0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 2>You got an interim head coach? Did he know anything

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 2>about this? What about your seniors or your juniors who

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.119
<v Speaker 2>took part in the hazing here? You know? There it

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:20.240
<v Speaker 2>feels like there's culpability to go around. Yeah.

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:23.920
<v Speaker 8>See, but football coaches can't have it both ways. You

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:26.120
<v Speaker 8>can't be the guy who hey, I'm here twenty four

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:29.120
<v Speaker 8>hours a day. They trust me, they know everything that's

0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 8>going on there. These guys are attention to detail, they're

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 8>detail oriented.

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:34.240
<v Speaker 1>They know every single.

0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:36.240
<v Speaker 8>Thing because that's just the culture, that's just what they do.

0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:38.240
<v Speaker 8>And then all of a sudden something goes wrong and

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:39.879
<v Speaker 8>be like, well I didn't know?

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, how am I?

0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 1>What am I supposed to know everything?

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:42.359
<v Speaker 5>How?

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:44.960
<v Speaker 8>You can't pride yourself in detail because that's what football

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:47.360
<v Speaker 8>coaches do, But then also have no idea what's going

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:48.240
<v Speaker 8>on in your locker room.

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Pat Fitzgerald is in year two, two years into a

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:58.440
<v Speaker 2>ten year, fifty seven million dollar contract, so you owe

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 2>him forty two million dollar. You weren't expected to win

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 2>more than four games, and you're coming off a season

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.920
<v Speaker 2>where you won one game. Now, I'm not saying he

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:15.200
<v Speaker 2>could have kept his job, but it feels like Northwestern

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 2>wasn't able to handle this itself. You know, big programs

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:24.199
<v Speaker 2>handle these things however they handle them, well, that's up

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:26.680
<v Speaker 2>to the university, up to the football program or the

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 2>head coach. But Northwestern wasn't able to handle this in house.

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:35.359
<v Speaker 2>How did it get here? How did it metastasize? And

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 2>it cost Pat Fitzgerald his job here, but I want

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 2>accountability for everybody involved in this. You're going to fire

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 2>head coach, Fine, what about the assistant coaches? Now? I

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.720
<v Speaker 2>know that there's pressure to not come forward because you

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 2>don't want to usurp your head coach, go around him,

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 2>and then somebody might say, oh, you know, now, what

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 2>do you do with the locker room? You got rats

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 2>in there? And I go, they're not rats, you know, whistleblowers. Okay,

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 2>they came forward. They didn't want to put up with this.

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's racism that could be involved in this,

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 2>comments that were made, there could be sexual assault in this.

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.439
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of things to kind of unpack here.

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:21.719
<v Speaker 2>But it felt like a six month investigation with an

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:26.399
<v Speaker 2>independent investigation firm. They didn't find anything, but they still

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 2>sort of found enough to suspend Pat Fitzgerald for two

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:33.679
<v Speaker 2>Like what is two weeks worthy? It felt like they

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 2>were just trying to all, right, something happened, let's move

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 2>on here. Hey, we addressed it, and they didn't realize

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 2>the reaction from the public is the reason why Pat

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 2>Fitzgerald got fired. He had a two week suspension and

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.719
<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden They're like, well, what's happening here?

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 2>People are really upset about this. Well, okay, more details came,

0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, more more players, former players came forward like

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 2>you're fired, and he's gonna want his money here, and

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's what makes it go away. And now Northwestern,

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:17.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, relative obscurity continues here. But Pat Fitzgerald has

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 2>done a wonderful job there at Northwestern by all accounts,

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 2>he's been a great coach. But how this happened under

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:28.400
<v Speaker 2>his watch? You know, at some point you have to Now,

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 2>being on a college basketball team, there was a guy

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 2>who was a spy. Now he would never he was

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 2>related to somebody on the coaching staff. Now he would

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 2>tell that person what was going on, who's smoking pot,

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.159
<v Speaker 2>who drinks? You know, there was a nark and it

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:47.400
<v Speaker 2>was a you know, we weren't a good basketball team.

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 2>But his job was sort of being the lifeguard or

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 2>the hall monitor. These things happen. If Pat Fitzgerald wanted

0:26:56.280 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 2>to know, he could have found out easily. If he

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't know, he could have found out. He'd be like,

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.680
<v Speaker 2>you take the temperature of your team. You're going to

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 2>find out, Hey, who's the leader here, who's who's a

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 2>vocal guy who's got a problem here. This is what happens.

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Why wouldn't you you're running a business, I'd want to

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.680
<v Speaker 2>know here in my office, we only have twelve people

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 2>on the show. I like to find out what's going

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 2>on with everybody, and of course the big german narks

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:27.639
<v Speaker 2>on everybody, and then I'm able to find out exactly

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 2>what's going on with you guys. Yeah, I'm pooney, I

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 2>want to go back. I'm joking, and the big it's

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 2>not it's Mario. Mario is the one who's narking on everybody.

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Poey, So patischeral gets fired and we agree that

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 3>hazing is wrong. I'm wondering if this investigation pointed out

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 3>specific players that are still on the roster that did this,

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 3>because this would be I would assume a violation of

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Northwestern's policies of hazing and treatment of other student student athletes.

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Why aren't the people who actually did this suspend it?

0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 5>Or do we not know that?

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't think that they've because you've got people

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 2>who have spoken to the newspaper and ESPN and they

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 2>want to remain anonymous. I'm going to guess that they

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 2>would probably still keep that confidential, but I don't know

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 2>if that gets out, but I wouldn't. I just want

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 2>to know who's involved in this because if you know,

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 2>how long's Paton been there? For over a decade? You

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 2>have turnover? Did this continue? How long has this been

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 2>going on? Who was involved in this? Is this just recent?

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 2>What about the you know, the leadership? What about the

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 2>captains here? Did they know this? And is that a

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 2>violation of you know, the moral code or ethics code

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 2>at Northwestern? The coaches involved in this, the president of

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 2>the university, what did he know? When did he know it?

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Did he act accordingly? This happens, but usually universities and

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 2>big time football programs keep it in house. They didn't

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 2>do a good job all But I don't know what's next.

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 2>It's Northwestern and maybe there's nothing because you've you've just

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 2>fired the head coach. There's a player's only meeting today.

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Can you transfer now? Are there roster spots for you know,

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 2>these players if they want to transfer to go to

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 2>another program. Don't you have a finite amount of scholarships available?

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.719
<v Speaker 2>And certainly right now here we are in July. Season

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>starts in six weeks, so I don't know if you

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 2>can go. I want to get out of here. I'm

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 2>going to want to leave.

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, are there spots for you to go to?

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 8>It does read though as small time program, small time

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 8>coach does It does read that way.

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 3>Yes, there is a new ISSU rule with the transfer portal.

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 3>It pay in the past couple of years. If for

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 3>any reason, your coach leaves just before the season starts,

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 3>for any reason, the transfer portals immediately open to you.

0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 3>That means Northwestern players. I got to look at the

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 3>actual details. But like, if the Northwestern player wanted to

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 3>go to Illinois today, I think he could be practicing

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 3>this week.

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 2>But there has to be a spot for him. Isn't

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 2>there a finite amount of spots available here? You can't

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 2>have one hundred and fifty players on the football team.

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 2>It's true, but I know there's I mean, you can transfer,

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 2>but I'm guessing here we are in July, there aren't

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 2>any spots. Yees s.

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's not just that easy. It's like, oh, just

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 8>go play somewhere else. It's like when people say, like, oh,

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 8>just find a new job, like they're not just everywhere,

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 8>you know what I mean. But it does Pat Fitzgerald

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 8>is screwed either way, because it's if you didn't know,

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 8>you're fired. If you didn't know you're fired, it's an

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 8>unwinnable situation.

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this goes back to Rick Patino, and I cautioned

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 2>everybody with due process, and I would still say due process.

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 2>But if it turns out that he knew about this,

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 2>or he didn't know and is staffed it, or you know,

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 2>then you can fire him. I'm not an apologist for

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Pat Fitzgerald. I don't know him. I've just had him

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 2>on a couple of times. And I did have somebody

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 2>who worked for Pat Fitzgerald who stood up for him,

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 2>spoke to him on Sunday night, strongly backed him. But

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, when I talked to him yesterday, I said, boy,

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 2>that didn't take long. And he said it had gotten

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 2>too far down the road that they had to fire him,

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 2>all right. Eight seven to seven three DP show email

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 2>address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at dp show.

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 2>By the way, the students at Northwestern, you know, that's

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 2>a wonderful journalism school, and they proved it by you know,

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you don't want to uncover something that's so close

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 2>to you, like if you're a local columnist or reporter

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 2>and you go against your big time football program, sometimes

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 2>people will turn on you. And those students who did

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 2>their job well done.

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 8>Yes, right, If you're a seasoned vet, we'll say, as

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 8>a college football reporter, you're likely friends with Pat Fitzgerald.

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>You're not doing this, you're not writing this story.

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I I had somebody who worked covering a big

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 2>time program. They're not a big time program anymore. And

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 2>he said that sometimes you get too friendly, sometimes you

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 2>get too close. Sometimes you don't want to be that

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 2>guy that people will point at and say, you're the

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 2>reason why we're on probation. So it gets tricky there.

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 2>But these students did their job, all right. We'll get

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:26.200
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<v Speaker 2>We'll get some phone calls coming up. I, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>was being a manly man on vacation, went to Montana,

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 2>went fly fishing where we floated down the Wise River

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 2>on rafts. Had a guide there. My guide, Kelly, kept

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 2>telling us about he encounters bears, all kinds of wildlife.

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<v Speaker 2>He would have elk, you know, the wolves. There were

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things involved there in Montana. And I

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<v Speaker 2>probably misspoke yesterday where I was giving some of the

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<v Speaker 2>advice that my guide gave me if we encounter a

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<v Speaker 2>bear and we were going to have on a wildlife expert,

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 2>is is doctor Tom Smith there with us? Ton uspt? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, could be doing wildlife thing, but we thought

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 2>we would have somebody there and see. The wolves kind

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<v Speaker 2>of concerned me when a woman who was there in Montana,

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 2>she drove me to the airport and she told me

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<v Speaker 2>about these wolves that were really you know, there was

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<v Speaker 2>quite a few of them and they had a lot

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 2>of courage there. You know, they had no problem going

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>up on the front porch and grabbing her dog. They

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 2>eventually got the dog back, but you know, it was like, Okay,

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 2>this is getting a little nervous here.

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<v Speaker 8>Wolves are awesome though. They're like truly like majestic creatures.

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<v Speaker 8>Have you watched us about like the way that they

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<v Speaker 8>live as a pack?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I guess or whatever. They're tremendous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Tod the professor is with us all. Doctor Tom Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>b YU, Professor of Wildlife Sciences. Doc, thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>helping us. I may have misspoke yesterday of what you

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<v Speaker 2>do when you encounter a bear, So if you could

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<v Speaker 2>give us sort of what the philosoph is and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>how it's changed over the years of what you do

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<v Speaker 2>when you encounter a bear.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, thank you for having me my pleasure. Well, the

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<v Speaker 9>main thing I like to emphasize to people is number one,

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<v Speaker 9>and this is before any of the advice on how

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<v Speaker 9>to deal with a bear one on one is you

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.439
<v Speaker 9>really have no business in bear country without some way

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 9>of dealing with them, meaning that you need to have

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<v Speaker 9>bear spray or a firearm or some kind of determent,

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<v Speaker 9>because if you have a bear that's determined to cause

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<v Speaker 9>you harm, you've got to be able to tell it no,

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 9>just one on one, that's not going to happen. So

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<v Speaker 9>when we see the kind of desperate things people do,

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<v Speaker 9>such as run from bears, climb trees, or even lay

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<v Speaker 9>down and play dead, that's almost always because they don't

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<v Speaker 9>have any option for dealing with the bear other than that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 9>So number one, I wouldn't go in bear country. I've

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 9>been in there for thirty some years. I've dealt with

0:36:56.760 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 9>thousands of bears. I just don't give that option up

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 9>to bears that if one of them gets menacingly aggressive,

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<v Speaker 9>I've got to be able to stop it. So that's

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<v Speaker 9>number one. Number two, the simplest thing you can do,

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:17.320
<v Speaker 9>which is without any deterrence, just in the case you

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 9>don't have them, as hike with buddies like two or

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:23.959
<v Speaker 9>more people. Yellowstone Parks has at least three. My data

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 9>from North America say you're pretty safe with two.

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<v Speaker 2>But that means you just have to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>outrun one of the two other guys with you, is

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<v Speaker 2>what you're saying, Doc that like that, or use or use.

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<v Speaker 9>Your underpowered gun to shoot one of them in the leg.

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<v Speaker 1>And then.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but I was fishing in Montana and they have

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 2>the bears there, so yeah, So if I encountered a

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.800
<v Speaker 2>brown bear or a black bear, is there a difference

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<v Speaker 2>in what I'm supposed to do?

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<v Speaker 9>Well? Certainly. So let's say after all you've done, you're

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 9>with your friends, you're fishing along the room, but you're

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 9>scattered out a little bit, and all of a sudden,

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 9>here comes a brown bear or a black bear. Number

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<v Speaker 9>one thing again is the ready you're deterrent, get your bear,

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<v Speaker 9>spray off your hip, and then I would start backing

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 9>away from the bear. Get away from it, give it

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<v Speaker 9>some space. In many, many instances, the bear is just

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 9>trying to go somewhere and you're in its way, So

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:25.879
<v Speaker 9>get out of its way and then continue to move.

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<v Speaker 9>Don't run, but don't just stand there. And the reason

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<v Speaker 9>why I say never stand there is because let's say

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 9>on another occasion, you're around a corner, you get your

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:36.879
<v Speaker 9>rod out, you're fly fishing. You don't know that there's

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<v Speaker 9>not a bison carcass in that creek and the bear's

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<v Speaker 9>on it. You don't know that there's not two cubs

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<v Speaker 9>hiding up in the brush. You standing there saying hey bear,

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 9>hey bear, don't hurt me, or something like that. That

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 9>just aggravates it. You need to get away from it.

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<v Speaker 9>So get away from the bear, but do it in

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<v Speaker 9>a determined manner.

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<v Speaker 1>But not with speed.

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<v Speaker 2>Which one climbs a tree, Doc.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I'll tell you what. I've seen brown bears up

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<v Speaker 9>to thirty forty feet in the tree. So that strategy

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 9>is a really bad one. I looked at Yeah, I

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 9>looked at about one hundred and fifty tree climbers, and

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 9>we can lay it to rest that trying to outclimb

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 9>Olympic tree climbers, it's probably a bad strategy for you

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 9>and your waiters with a fishing rock.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I yell at them?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, you certainly can, and that will most times precipate

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<v Speaker 9>a charge in.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it attack. Can I know that they will attack

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:33.319
<v Speaker 2>me if I yell at him?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>That sort of sharp startle can trigger that kind of response.

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<v Speaker 2>I got an experience with the Kommody bear. Are you

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:47.800
<v Speaker 2>familiar with the the spirit bear? Yes, And he was

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:53.360
<v Speaker 2>about ten to fifteen feet away from me accidentally, but

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 2>he was interested in the salmon that were spawning. I

0:39:56.560 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 2>was in British Columbia and he just looked at me. Now,

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 2>if he wanted to kill me, he could have, but

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 2>he just looked and I think he was curious. But

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 2>he and he might have recognized me as being on

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 2>TV and you know, being in Adam sandler movies Doc.

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<v Speaker 2>But he decided he was going to go eat the salmon,

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<v Speaker 2>so he didn't care. He had other things on his mind.

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<v Speaker 9>I think I think something about this is important and

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 9>people have a hard time wrapping their mind around it.

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.799
<v Speaker 9>Animals like bears, and you're talking about wolves earlier, they're

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 9>real narrow and they're focus on what they eat and

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 9>humans typically are not part of that. So they see

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:36.400
<v Speaker 9>you and they're kind of surprised and they're trying to

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 9>size things up. That's a good time just to move

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 9>on back to your question on black and brown. So

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 9>black bear should never approach you.

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<v Speaker 5>And when you.

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<v Speaker 9>You know show some aggressive behavior to it, hopefully with

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:54.319
<v Speaker 9>some friends, it should run. If it doesn't run, now

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 9>you've got a problem.

0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 10>Should should?

0:40:57.920 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 9>I say, You've got it?

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<v Speaker 2>What it is the most dangerous experience you've ever encountered?

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<v Speaker 9>Sitting in a helicopter with two tranquilized bears that were

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 9>waiting up and the pilot couldn't find a place to land.

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.879
<v Speaker 9>And I said, I said, Jim, these two were going

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:18.440
<v Speaker 9>parachuting with no parachute in about one minute because they

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 9>were coming out of the drug.

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:21.280
<v Speaker 2>So that was not cool.

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 9>Also, one other one, I chased a bear into the woods.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know. I was a junior team member and

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 9>they said go after that one. It was a young bear,

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 9>and I went after it and it was probably three

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 9>or four hundred pounds. And when I got in there,

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 9>I realized, you know, that's really still a very big animal.

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 9>So that was a stupid thing to do. I don't

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 9>know what they thought I was going to do is

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 9>run it back to them. They had guns, they were

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 9>going to tranquilize it. But huh, yeah, I won't do

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 9>that again.

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's great to talk to you. Thanks for Yeah,

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 2>thanks for enlightening on what to do when we encounter

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 2>a bear. You know, next time that I encounter a bear,

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'll just call you when I've encountered the bear

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 2>and then you could probably you know, help me put

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 2>it on speakerphone and then you could guide me to safety.

0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 9>My line's always open or else. The backup is I'll

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 9>read about.

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<v Speaker 2>You and thank you, Doc, I appreciate it.

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 9>Put it in the database.

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 2>All right, Maybe you could speak you know at my

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 2>funeral is doctor Tom Smith, b y you, professor of

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:27.279
<v Speaker 2>wildlife Sciences. Thank you, doc, thanks for joining us. There

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 2>you go.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, see, so I think if I could give the

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 8>cliffs Notes version of it, what we learned about how

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 8>to handle a bear encounter is don't put yourself in

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:36.239
<v Speaker 8>that position in the first place.

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:37.800
<v Speaker 1>That's sort of what it sounds like.

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, but I'm sorry.

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 8>Just you you can't be that big, that strong, that

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 8>fast and be able to climb trees like that. That

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:50.239
<v Speaker 8>is just totally unfair. I can see, well, yes, but

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 8>you're not six hundred pounds or whatever.

0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Bears are not anymore.

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:56.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, they did call you the bear, though they did.

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:59.279
<v Speaker 2>That was my nickname, that name in high school, the bear.

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Yes, doctor Tomm may do some stand up on the

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 3>side out there as you talk.

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>He's crushing it.

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:06.280
<v Speaker 3>Hear what about that cougar?

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me tell you about the time I'm in

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 2>a helicopter with two bears that were tranquilized. Then they're

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:12.439
<v Speaker 2>waking up.

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 5>Like that guy.

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he had like a fishing shirt on and the

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 3>glasses is ready to go.

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Heck with Fritzie doing stand up doctor Tom in the

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Personality on the Professor, he's killing it. Coming up next hour,

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Harold Reynolds MLB Network get his thoughts, the old Star

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<v Speaker 2>Break and of course show Hey Tony. One hour in

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<v Speaker 2>the books, two more to go on this Tuesday.