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Speaker 1: He was Bill. It was that was that was kind

425
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: of a foregone conclusion before we'd even started. But going back,

426
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: especially in season one and watching how good Rusty and

427
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: Betsy were together, um, and how many moments they get,

428
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 1: like how much time is dedicated to the two of

429
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: them just talking about parenting and figuring out like them

430
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: not knowing, you know, they have to like sort of

431
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: discuss how to be a parent. And with you, there's

432
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: this lovely scene in the first episode of your your

433
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: first episode with you and Bill, where there's this kind

434
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 1: of like he's checking in on you and I'm saying

435
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: for me. I had no idea that that scene even existed,

436
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is such a cool dynamic,

437
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: and I you know, now, I mean, we haven't watched

438
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: much of the second season, so I'm so excited to

439
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: see if that develops more because I'm fascinated by those

440
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: adult dynamics that I had no clue was going on

441
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: while we were making this show. Was it was nuts? Yeah, crazy,

442
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: go ahead, Tony, it was not. It was great. S

443
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: are you you guys are watching the the like rewatching

444
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: the show from season one on first episode all the

445
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: way through. Writers never seen them, and Will and I

446
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 1: have not seen them since they aired in the nineties,

447
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 1: so it's like watching it's like watching a brand new

448
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: show for us. You've never seen the show. Writer know,

449
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: he watched like a handful of episodes when the first

450
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: season and then I was like, I was so insecure

451
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, I'm never gonna watch this again.

452
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: And so you're you're as bad as me, absolutely as

453
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,719
Speaker 1: bad as me. Yeah, So did you ever watch Boyis

454
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: World then? Or I used to watch I used to

455
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: watch it now. This is kind of an interesting dynamic

456
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: because I used to watch the show because I used

457
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: to love watching you guys work and seeing all the

458
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: things that we did because we were all part of

459
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: that process. So I used to love to see the

460
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: finished product. But um, there came a time when I

461
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: really could not stand seeing myself on film, and when

462
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: somebody would tell me, I was like, oh, please don't,

463
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I remember I was in this film and

464
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: they invited me to a screening, and I really was

465
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: trying to get out of it. But because I had

466
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: such a nice relationship with one of the producers, I

467
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: promised that I would go, and I said, but when

468
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: it comes time to go, sit in the theater area

469
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: and watch it, I'll sneak out, because I was almost

470
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: having like a panic attack because I did not want

471
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: to see myself. But when I walked into the theater,

472
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: the door was in the front and oh crap, film, Yeah,

473
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: so I was in the back, just going on, please,

474
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to see any of this that I

475
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: have to say. I have to say from now, just

476
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: from a personal standpoint, my life on the set really

477
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: changed when you showed up because by this point season two,

478
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: I was now out of school, so I wasn't going

479
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: to school on the set with Danielle and Ryder and

480
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: Ben all the other quote unquote kids, So I was

481
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: kind of in and I wasn't obviously gonna be hanging

482
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: out with Betsy and Rusty who were so much older

483
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: than me. So I was kind of like in in

484
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: No person's land. I was just lost there and then

485
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: you show up, and it was probably the second or

486
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: third episode, by about eleven o'clock in the morning, when

487
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: we don't have anything to do. We looked at each

488
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: other and we're like, hey, you want to be friends,

489
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,719
Speaker 1: and can I can I? Can I give it? Can

490
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: I give a scene? From an outsider's perspective? This, This

491
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: is what season two through season four was like. On

492
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: the set of Point who Ad you walking down the hall,

493
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: like I guess it was. It was after we had

494
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: left Disney. I don't I don't know which stage it was,

495
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: but I just remember you walked down the hall and

496
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: you just hear NonStop laughter and there would be a

497
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: door open and it would be one of your rooms,

498
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: and you guys would be knee deep in some card

499
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: game that you had invented. You would basically be speaking

500
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: your own language, like you guys had so many in jokes,

501
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: on in jokes, on in jokes, and then you would

502
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: be pranking one another. So it was like it was

503
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: like these two guys who were like mirror images of

504
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: each other in personality, like just biggest smiles, making each

505
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: other laugh so much, and none of us had any

506
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: clue what was going on, and you guys were just

507
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: like and then you'd like leave because you guys wouldn't

508
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: be in scenes with the rest of us, and you

509
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: guys would leave and come back having I don't know,

510
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: played tennis to get I don't know what you guys

511
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: would go off and do, but you would come back

512
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: just having story after story. You were just inseparable. It

513
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: was so fun. It was such a source of energy

514
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: and light on our set was just your relationship. It

515
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: was so weird, and we would every day we would

516
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: either go golf, or we would bowl, or we would

517
00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: go shooting. We'd go to so it was Remember do

518
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: you remember the prank that we played on Steve Paper,

519
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: Oh jeez, when he got all mad at us. Do

520
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: you remember that? Do you tell us? We went to

521
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: a shooting range and we had like four hours where

522
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: we didn't have to do anything, and we had to

523
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: be back for a run through. So we're on the

524
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: one one, I think, coming back from some shooting range

525
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: and I said to Will, either he said to me

526
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: or I said to him. I said, let's prank Steve.

527
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: And he goes okay. So we called him and we go, dude,

528
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: we're not gonna make it back to the run through.

529
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: We are stuck in traffic. We're screwing remember this. So

530
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: Steve goes into full on control mode. He's like, all right,

531
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: where are you? I go. We're on the one on one.

532
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: We're just passing like this topanga and he's like, and

533
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: we're literally like five minutes away from that. But let's

534
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: explain this to our audience. So this means, so Steve,

535
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: Steve papers our first, our stage manager, so he's in

536
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: charge of wrangling everybody, including thirty writers and producers and

537
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: network executives for this run through. So people have scheduled

538
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: their entire day around showing up at this time to

539
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 1: watch the show. So if you guys aren't there, there

540
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: is no run through, and it screws everybody's day. People

541
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: like it's a big deal. So we can tell Steve

542
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: had a little edge of stress in his voice, so

543
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: we tell him. We tell him we're like way far away.

544
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, so get off the one on one.

545
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: He starts giving directions that take Laurel, take a left

546
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: on Laurel goes. I mean, it was like he was

547
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: a Thomas Guid all of a sudden. It was so weird. Okay, dude,

548
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: we'll call you when we're like five minutes out. He's like,

549
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: all right, get here as fast as you can. So

550
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: we get off the phone, we get off the exit

551
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: and we're literally pulling into the parking lot. We walk

552
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: onto the stage and we were like ten minutes early.

553
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, remember he wasn't the stage. We

554
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: we got he what We got out of the car

555
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: and we were walking towards the stage and the door

556
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: open the medicine parking lot. That's right, right, So he

557
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: points the both of us and he goes YouTube, come

558
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: with me. Were like, but it was a it was

559
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: a dog. And he walks us in and he's like, Okay,

560
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: that was really funny, but I'm so stressed out right now.

561
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: Yes it was. It was hilarious in the face, Steve,

562
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: you should get red yet so bad, but it was

563
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: so fun the pranking. Here's what I remember about the pranking.

564
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: It started like slow, like you know so, and then

565
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: I remember walking into the set one day and going

566
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: and opening the door to my dressing room and floor

567
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: to ceiling it was full of furniture. I mean from

568
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: the back of the thing. There must have been a

569
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pieces of furniture in the room, Like

570
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: you couldn't. It was one of those things where I

571
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: just stood done you had gone to like all the

572
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: other dressing rooms, furniture, and then the set and ever.

573
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: It was just it was full floor to ceiling. You

574
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: could not step in walking. It was so impressive that

575
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: it was just like I don't know how to top this,

576
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 1: Like this is really impressively incredible. Yeah, but what did

577
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: you do? You left it all in there? I did?

578
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: It was great, exactly. I remember one day knocking on

579
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: his door and Will was reclined on sort of a

580
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: couch that was stacked on something else, and it was

581
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: like up in the air. I look in his room

582
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, are you ready to go to lunch? Yeah,

583
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: I'll be right there, and he just laying on this

584
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: big couch. Way he hadn't brought it in and somebody

585
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: else's responsibility to take me, it was my response. Did

586
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: we said the weirdest No, we just did the weirdest things.

587
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean it would always start, like you said, with

588
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: a card game or something like that, and I remember

589
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: at certain times, at one point ended with both of

590
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: us crouched behind opposite tables just throwing poker chips at

591
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: each other as hard as possible. It's a lot of

592
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: throwing and flicking and rubber bands and led you guys

593
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: were Yeah. But here's what's funny about all of that.

594
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: To me, did you guys really work together that much?

595
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: Did you ever have scenes together? I could think of

596
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: one or two. We had a few that we always

597
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: talked about that where it's like they never gave us

598
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: that much stuff to do, and I don't know why,

599
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: but um, there were there were more than I remember.

600
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: I actually don't really like I saw one recently. My wife,

601
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: by the way, Margaret says hello and everything. Hello Margaret.

602
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: My mom would want me to tell you hello as well.

603
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely give her a big hug for me. But she

604
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: showed me a clip of a scene between you and

605
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: I Will, and I'm like, I have no memory of that.

606
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: Remember is the ash tray class? Because you had a

607
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: joke about that afterwards. But that's of course, because I

608
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: remember the line I said to you, you're like Matthews

609
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: where you headed in a thick Brooklyn accent, because all

610
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: of a sudden season two everyone was from New York

611
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: for some reason, and it was like Matthew's where you

612
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: had And I was like, Sarah Mix and You're like,

613
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: what is Sarah mis and and you mean ceramics, and

614
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: I go, yeah, the ash tray class, and I try

615
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: you walked away that I remember, and that's it. That's

616
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: the only one, Sarah mis and I was that close

617
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: to busting. And you could sort of tell that I

618
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: almost broke because I can watch it and I go,

619
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: they didn't cut away. We broke. So going back to

620
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: obviously you had a very fun, childlike relationship with Will,

621
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: going back at times your relationship with the other adults

622
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: on the show, specifically Bill Daniels, who had was so

623
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: well established as the character of Mr. Feenie. Were there

624
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: any did you have any sort of reservations as coming

625
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: in as a new teacher um playing opposite him, What

626
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: was your relationship with Bill? Like? Um, Bill was a

627
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: lot more playful than I than I thought he was

628
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: going to be, which I really liked. And I was

629
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: always a big fan of his work. Like, if you

630
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: ever go back and watch some of the things that

631
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: he's done, you're like, dude, this guy has worked with everybody.

632
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: So I used to always grow him on. How you know,

633
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: what was Warren Baby Like? What was James Garner? Like?

634
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: You know, I mean these are people, I mean, you've

635
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: worked with everybody. But our relationship was was always very friendly.

636
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: I remember one time and he laughed at me for this.

637
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: Jeff McCracken was directing an episode. He was a writer,

638
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: producer and sometimes he would direct and uh, Bill had

639
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: a problem with We were doing a scene and Bill

640
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: had a problem with one of the directions of the

641
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: thing that Jeff was having him do. And Bill goes, yeah,

642
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't want to do I'm not doing that.

643
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: He goes, I'd rather do this and do that, and

644
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: Jeff was like, okay, okay, yeah, that's fine if you

645
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: go if you want to, Yeah, that's good. So then

646
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: we kept working on the scene and I came to

647
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: Jeff and I said something similar to and saying, Jeff,

648
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: doesn't it feel weird if I'm doing this and go

649
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: on that? And He's like, yeah, we're not going to

650
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: change it, and Bill. Bill was laughing at me. He

651
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: started cracking up, and I was like, how did you

652
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: get away with that? I love My favorite was when

653
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: you talked to Bill about exactly what you said about, like,

654
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, what was it like working with Dustin Hoffman

655
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: or what was it like James Garner. He'd always come

656
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: back with their the names that he called them, so'd

657
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: be like, well the thing about Dusty, and you're like, wow,

658
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: you calling us Dusty exactly. It's like, yeah, Jian, Jimmy, Jimmy.

659
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: Jimmy was cool. It's like, oh man, it's Jimmy and Dusty,

660
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: Like that's so cool. Yeah, he was. I mean you

661
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: could tell by the type of actor that he is.

662
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: I mean he's all emotion. Oh, it's just he might

663
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: not look like it. He might not look like it

664
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: because he's just the way that he composes himself and

665
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: the way that he works. But that's where that's why

666
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: he's such a good actor as because when he lets

667
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: those floodgates open, it's all emotion. Oh yeah. Do you

668
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: have a favorite Mr. Turner teaching moment? Oh? I I

669
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: tend to not look at things that I did and

670
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: think of them as that's my favorite moment, because I

671
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: think my favorite moments from the show involve you guys.

672
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: Things that I watched that you guys have done that

673
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: I could just watch over and over and over because

674
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: it was so well done. Um for me, because you know,

675
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: you and I writer had so much to do this

676
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: so much. There's there's a couple of moments between you

677
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: and I, Danielle and you and I will and you

678
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: and I writer that that I felt were I could

679
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: watch it over and over again. But one moment stands

680
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: out for me is that episode. Um, I think it's

681
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: called a double lie. I think where we lie to

682
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: each other. Oh you don't remember, okay, and I we

683
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: we we lie to each other. You wanted to be

684
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: with this girl, and I tell you going on this

685
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: right because I'm living with you at that point, right,

686
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: and you you want to be with this girl. And

687
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: I tell you I'm going to be out of town

688
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: and you're on up in my apartment right right. And

689
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: so we're upset that we've lied to each other, and

690
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: then we have to make it right, and we both

691
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: wanted to make it right, and you were You were

692
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: sort of frustrated that you know, as an adult, I

693
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: would do that to you. And so there was like

694
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: this tender moment between us where and it was like,

695
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: we're both new at this and we want to make

696
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: it right. We made a mistake and we're not. And

697
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: part of the part of the baggage that you carried

698
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: was we we had a falling out. So that means

699
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: we're all done. And I was like, just because something

700
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: happens like this doesn't mean we just chucked the whole relationship.

701
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: Now we just have to do it and do it better,

702
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: you know. So I always looked at that moment as

703
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: I I just was really proud of that particular relationship

704
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: moment between you and I. Yeah, well it's like because

705
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 1: you know, because I haven't seen the show, I don't

706
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: I don't have very specific memories. I just know I

707
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: had this overwhelming feeling of you and me having so

708
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: many great acting moments together, Like I just remember we

709
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: had so much like I believe there's a scene where

710
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: you basically offered to adopt me or for me to

711
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: move in with you when I'm trying to run away,

712
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: and I just remember we had a series of those

713
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: and it just made sense, like it made sense for

714
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: our characters, Like I remember being like, oh, Sean and

715
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: Turner are like Turner sort of like an older Seawan

716
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: in some ways, and he's going to understand this guy.

717
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: And then just as an actor, like I just remember

718
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: you and I always enjoying those moments like just loving

719
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: the like being able to rely on you for the

720
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: drama and being able to like trust that, like we're

721
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: gonna be able to carry this scene like it's it's

722
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: me and Tony, Like I don't know. I just I

723
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: don't because I because I don't remember. I was so young.

724
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't have this, But I just have this overwhelming

725
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: feeling of like always loving being in scenes with you,

726
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: and like the dynamic between our characters just feeling right

727
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: like it was just you know, I mean, I guess

728
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: you were just the father figure teacher that Sean needed,

729
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: and then as an actor, you were just a rock

730
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: that I could rely on, that we could play off

731
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: of each other so well. I'm like, I'm looking forward

732
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: to watching those those scenes. Tony, what what was your

733
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: first impression of each of us? Um? There was there

734
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: was an effortlessness about you guys. Um, your work just

735
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: seems so effortless. Like Wright you just said, you guys

736
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: are so young, but but your work and your presence

737
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: on stage was so mature and so effortless. I guess

738
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: that's the word I used to describe it, because it

739
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: just seemed like you guys weren't trying. You just were

740
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And you inhabited the characters

741
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: so well. All of you guys and I and I

742
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: really loved that environment when I when I came on

743
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: the set, because you guys were so well established as

744
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: characters and your work was so spot on that it

745
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: was easy to just sort of run alongside you guys

746
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: and go with you. Mm hmm. I have a question

747
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 1: that I'd like to throw out there to everybody, because

748
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm curious, what do you think the chances

749
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: are that they had planned right from bringing Tony on

750
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: that it was going to end up being Mr Turner

751
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: and Sewn together? Do you think there was any thought

752
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: of thought of that at all or here's the well,

753
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: here's my question for Tony. Actually that probably would answer

754
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: that was were you brought on as a regular or

755
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: were you reoccurring or were you a guest star? Do

756
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: you remember I was? I was? I was brought on

757
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: as a regular. That's where Michael, Yeah, and yeah. I

758
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised, man, I wouldn't be surprised if they

759
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: saw something like right away, like there was a plan

760
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 1: in place, We're gonna bring on a new young teacher

761
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: and it's going to be kind of Sean's mentor going

762
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. I mean, if you had asked

763
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: me that before rewatching the first season, I would have

764
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: said no. But now having watched the first season and

765
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: seeing how well Sean was already established as the sort

766
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: of troublemaker with a broken home who kind of needed

767
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: that figure, you know, and the fact that Phoenie like

768
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: the dynamic with Phoenie and Sean just doesn't make as

769
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: much sense, right, Like, it doesn't make as much sense

770
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: as you also already have the teacher. You It's sort

771
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: of like, if you're going to have Sean be a

772
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: bigger character, which I had already started to become in

773
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: the first season, then you want to have his teacher

774
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: his version. That makes perfect sense to me that they

775
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: would have already been thinking that. And if and you know,

776
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: if if Tony had just been a guest star, I

777
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: would say maybe they were trying it out, but since

778
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: he was becoming coming in as a regular. But I

779
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: also don't remember when that dynamic starts happening. I'm assuming

780
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: it happens relatively soon, but maybe it doesn't happen until

781
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: the third season. So um, but it seems like it's

782
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: already built into the characters. Do you remember writer ever

783
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: having a lot of scenes with Harley because it seems

784
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: like because that's it seems like what they could have

785
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: done was it's like, look at the different direction. Sean

786
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: could go dynamically or you could go be a Mr.

787
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: Turner or he did write that that that they did

788
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: righte that episode, but I don't think it's until third

789
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: season and that's the that's the episode that Harley was

790
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: replaced by Griff. Not Griff, but remember that actor show

791
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: and the other actor came in, because that is an

792
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: episode where I'm encouraged to beat up Mr Turner's motorcycle

793
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: with a baseball bat and so it's like myself with

794
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: the bad kids. So that does happen, you know, I

795
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: end up with Joey and Frankie, but it was and

796
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't hardly at that time because Danny had already

797
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: left the show. Um but but yeah, so they did

798
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: end up doing it. But as far as like, I

799
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: don't think I had many scenes with Joey and Frankie

800
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: and and and and Harley in the second season besides

801
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: that one, which I think is third season interesting. Yeah,

802
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: but if you watched that episode, uh, and well, you

803
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: could do a great impression to be in that episode

804
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: with the baseball bat. Oh yeah you do that? Yeah,

805
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I don't know how to describe that to

806
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: our listening audience. Tony does a great, great important bat

807
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: double take kind of thing. It's like and you probably

808
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: just never let him live it down right like he

809
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: did one act and you were like, I'm not gonna

810
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: let this go. It was perfect and the way he

811
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: did it it was hilarious, and then it just kept

812
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: getting better and better. We were merciless towards each other,

813
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: we really, but that episode was kind of like at

814
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: that moment, it was like Mr. Turner really felt like,

815
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: please don't become that if you go down that road

816
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: like he I think one of the lines is something

817
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: about if you don't, if you stay away from something

818
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: this Harley or that Harley or whatever, you're going to

819
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: be because you were like literally asking him and you

820
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna be okay because I don't feel like

821
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be okay, and I gave you a little

822
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: bit of fatherly direction, going You're gonna be okay, and

823
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: it was like, I can't. It was kind of like

824
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: this moment where that teacher couldn't let this young kid

825
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: slip through his fingers. You know what I mean, such

826
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: a it was such a great dynamic, and it's so

827
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: it's only increases the disappointment that you were around for

828
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: the fifth or sixth or song or Girl Meets World

829
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: besides one moment I wanted to ask next when I

830
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: tell you that it is one of our most frequently

831
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: emailed questions. And when I say frequent, I mean we

832
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: get hundreds of emails about it, people saying they do

833
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: not understand why you were only on the show for

834
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: two seasons and you were very missed, not just by

835
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: all of us but by the audience. Were you given

836
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: any warning that you weren't coming back? What did you know? Uh,

837
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of a long story because a few

838
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: things were sort of strung together that I talked about

839
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: this all the time. By the way, people ask me

840
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: that whenever they recognize me, and they this is always

841
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: part of the conversation. Yeah, but I've never really told

842
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: the long version of it. So maybe this can be

843
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: the official Boy meets World version of the events that occurred.

844
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: But uh, let's let's wind the tape back. Okay, we

845
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: had just finished season read and we were over on

846
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: stage over at kt l A, and we had done that.

847
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: We just finished last episode and we're all high five

848
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: in and we're hugging each other and saying, great job,

849
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: great season, we'll see you next season. And I saw

850
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: Michael Jacobs on stage across from me, and I, you know,

851
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: like I said, we had a great friendship and a

852
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: good working relationship. So I wanted to go over to

853
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: him and just kind of say congratulations, and what do

854
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: you think of the way my character is developing and

855
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: how he's interacting with everybody. So I went and asked him,

856
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: and he goes, yeah, we think it's great. It's all great. Uh,

857
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: we're very excited. You can't wait for season four. And

858
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: he kind of shared with me a little bit about

859
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: what they wanted to do, what their intention was for

860
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: season four. They he told me they wanted to do

861
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of a deeper dive into the nature

862
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: of our relationship right than you know, we were becoming

863
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: this family, and that we were we were learning from

864
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: each other and teaching each other and growing and helping

865
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: each other. So I was very excited. I couldn't wait

866
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: for season four. So that was the end of March.

867
00:44:54,040 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: I think in nine. So remember that conversation, because in

868
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: June of I get a phone call from Michael Jacobs

869
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: and he's like, all right, so I got bad news.

870
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, and I and now the

871
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: last time I had a conversation with Michael that started

872
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: with I got bad news, it was about our lean Grayson,

873
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: who had passed away. I think in season two, right

874
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: we we yeah, we went all we went up to

875
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: her funeral at Forest Long. Remember that. So I was

876
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: like okay, and he goes, so you're not coming back

877
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: for season four? And I was like, wait, just like that,

878
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: like just like that, yeah, and he goes. So he goes,

879
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: like very sparingly. He goes maybe five episodes, maybe maybe

880
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: he goes, but definitely not season five. You know you're

881
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: you're not coming back. And I go, okay. Now I

882
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: get the concept that in show business there's no such

883
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: thing as job security. I get that, but this just

884
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: seemed like such a radical reversal because we just had

885
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: a conversation like two months ago that everything was great,

886
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: and so I just go what what happened? And he goes.

887
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: So the network and the studio came at us kind

888
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: of last minute with some changes. They were saying, the

889
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: kids are going into high school now and we want

890
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: to explore that whole dynamics, so we're going to change

891
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: it up. And he goes, it was just kind of

892
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: you know, unexpected last minute, so there was nothing we

893
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: could do to save it or you know whatever. And

894
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: he goes and it is what it is, and um

895
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: and then that was it. That was it. So I

896
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: was like, okay, just so I I first thing, I

897
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: was really sad because I thought, I'm not gonna be

898
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: able to come to work with you guys anymore, you know,

899
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 1: the stuff that all the fun stuff and the laughter

900
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: and the cast intros and table reads and all that stuff.

901
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: It was like I was getting kicked out of the house,

902
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: you know. But then I thought, now I gotta go

903
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: on the audition trail and try to find some other work,

904
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: and nobody wants to do that. So um, as we

905
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: were talking, he told me, he says, I want you

906
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: to know that, you know, I feel really bad. He said,

907
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: So if you're out there and you're working, if you're

908
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: auditioning or whatever, and you get a job or you

909
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: get an offer, he says, I want you to feel

910
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: free to explore that because you're you're you're not going

911
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: to be with us, and I want you to work.

912
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: So I said, okay, Now this is where the story

913
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: gets interesting because it's not over yet, which I think

914
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: is really funny. Uh. This was in June of Now

915
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: you fast forward to about February of because I was

916
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: I was gearing towards pilot season for ninety seven because

917
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: I had to get a job. That's why if you

918
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: if you watch the last episode or two that I

919
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: did at the show, my hair was different because I

920
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: had that I was auditioning for the things that I

921
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: had to cut my hair. So I was getting really

922
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: close to getting this pilot that I auditioned for in

923
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: for Fox, and I auditioned, I jumped through all the

924
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: hoops and they wanted to bring me to studio and

925
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: meet everybody there, and then they wanted to bring me

926
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: to network. And I was thinking this is great right

927
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: off the heels. And I think at that time, I

928
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: think I was doing like one or two episodes every

929
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: couple of months of boy Um, and I think I

930
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: only wind up doing like five or six of season four.

931
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: So they're gonna bring me to network. And I get

932
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: a phone call from my manager, and he goes, all right,

933
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: so we have a huge problem. And I was like,

934
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: of course there's a huge problem. Why wouldn't there be

935
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: a huge problem. I was like, what's the problem and

936
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: he goes, so Disney is not letting you out of

937
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: your contract and I go, wait what? And I was

938
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: honestly confused because it's been nine months now since I

939
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: got the phone call from Michael, and I go, what contract? Right?

940
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: And he goes, your contract at Disney and I go

941
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: I said, are you talking about Boy Met World? And

942
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: he goes yeah, and I go, uh, I don't have

943
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: a contract, you know as well as I do, I said.

944
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: They they called me, They told me that I was

945
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: being dismissed, and presently told me to go yes. Yes.

946
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: So I was like, I don't understand. What do you

947
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: mean they're not letty? He goes, well, your contract is

948
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: still active and they're not letting you out of it,

949
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: and I go, I don't understand. So I was thinking

950
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, Well, if Disney wants to bring me

951
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: back to Boy Meets World, I got no problem with that.

952
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: I would love to go back and be with you

953
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: guys and finish out the run of the show, bring

954
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: it on, I'll do that. Or if Fox wants to

955
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: sort of have conversations with Disney saying no, we want them,

956
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: so we're gonna try to hash this out. It's like

957
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: I don't really care. I just need to work. I

958
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: just have a family to support, right. But then I

959
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: then I thought this. I thought this could go sideways,

960
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: like really fast, Like if Disney calls Fox and says

961
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: we're not letting him out of his contract, then Fox goes, okay,

962
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 1: then we'll just pass and go to the next hundred

963
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: actors that are waiting for this show. And then Disney goes, yeah, okay,

964
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: by the way, yeah we changed our minds too, and

965
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: then you know, Mr Man walks away with nothing, and

966
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: then I and then I think, okay, then I've been

967
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: rejected by this same studio twice. So then my my

968
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: manager was talking about a lawsuit or saying something. I'm like, oh,

969
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want any of this drama.

970
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: So I guess at the I guess cooler heads prevailed.

971
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: And then finally Disney was just like, oh, yeah, never mind, okay,

972
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: are bad, Yeah you can go ahead, And I just

973
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: I didn't understand why they would try to do that

974
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 1: like a powerholder and keep Yeah, I just want because

975
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: you let me go. So that was kind of a

976
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: weird that. So that's the official sort of timeline of

977
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: why they didn't bring me back. But I never really

978
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: It's not like they told me, well, your character wasn't

979
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: very popular, or you wanted to get off the show,

980
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: or you just didn't work well with other people. It

981
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: just they just wanted to make those changes. They didn't

982
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: tell us either, for the record, which is so weird.

983
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: I remember you calling me and being like, dude, I'm

984
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: not coming back, and I was like, what do you

985
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: What are you not coming back to? What? Like, I

986
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: have no idea what you're talking. I think we can

987
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: pretty much at this point make a blanket, blanket statement

988
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: that we were not informed. We were not like consulted

989
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: or informed of anything that was happening with the show

990
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: until we got a script in our hands, because we

991
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: talked about it when we had Matthew Lawrence on the

992
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: show too. When they brought matt Lawrence on, no nobody

993
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: said to us like, hey, just you guys know there's

994
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: going to be a new cast member. Not for anyone

995
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: did the exception for that is Trina. For me, I

996
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: did get for you with Trina. I did because they

997
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 1: wanted me to do a chemistry to read with Trina,

998
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 1: So they brought me in and they talked about bringing

999
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: in a girlfriend from me, and I got to read

1000
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: with her before that season started. But were you told

1001
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: that she might be a regular on the show or

1002
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: that hey, we might just do like a four episode

1003
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: arc with a girlfriend for you. That's a good question.

1004
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I just knew that it was going

1005
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: to be important story wise and characterized. I don't think, yeah,

1006
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: I don't think they told me she was going to

1007
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: be a regular or not. Um And I don't remember

1008
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: she actually was a regular, because yeah, Danielle is right.

1009
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: I mean, we weren't told when Lee was gonna be gone.

1010
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: We weren't told when you know, Matt was going to

1011
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: be brought on. We weren't told when Tony was going

1012
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: to be gone, or when uh, anybody was was brought

1013
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: on or or left the show. It was just kind

1014
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: of like they just weren't there. I mean, Alex Alex

1015
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: days there was the same thing. It was just like

1016
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: he was there and then he was gone, and it

1017
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: was like what what's going on and you got kind

1018
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: of the pat on the head, like just be happy

1019
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 1: that you're on a show, kid kind of where it's like, Okay,

1020
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: the real I mean that the tragedy beyond the like

1021
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: the you know, lack of communication with actors, which maybe

1022
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: we can understand in the business side of this, which

1023
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: we can sort of excuse and say, like that's just

1024
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: the way it is. Story wise, Mr Turner makes no

1025
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: sense to not wrap up with Sean. And it's one

1026
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: of those dangling creative problems with Boyme's world that bothers

1027
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: are fans and it bothers me. You know, it's like

1028
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: one of those things we need to resolve this because

1029
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: the last time we saw him, he was in a

1030
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: hospital bed and I was praying to God after getting

1031
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: out of a cult. It's like this is this is

1032
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: about as intense and personal and like basically I'm asking

1033
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: for you know, God to save my father figure. I mean,

1034
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: that is awful. And it's the same way with Lee,

1035
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: like leaving him and we wish will him away and

1036
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: he disappears. These are dangling creatively story wise, uh, character

1037
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: investment wise, these are bad calls and like from it

1038
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: and like yeah, so beyond the personal like where's Tony?

1039
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: What happened? Now I can look back and be like,

1040
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what happened to Mr Turner? This is right,

1041
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: Like this is not the way it should work, and

1042
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: it's it still bothers me that you know, and I

1043
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: know we had a moment on Girl Meets World when

1044
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: we crammed it in at the end. There that's a bummer. Man,

1045
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: it's a bummer like it deserves more story wise, you

1046
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: think it would. It would affect you, guys in terms

1047
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: of your performance and your energy on the show. All

1048
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, this this character that's important or whatever

1049
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: is just gone. You would think that they would have

1050
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: some kind of consultation with you guys to say this

1051
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: is what we're thinking, Oh, this is what we're doing,

1052
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: and to not do that. It's like, but now you're

1053
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 1: you're sort of affecting your actors. You know. What's amazing

1054
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: is that when we talk about certain things, like when

1055
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: you know, we talked to Leon Norris and then we

1056
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: talked to a bunch of the writers and producers after

1057
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: Lee was written off the show, and so far all

1058
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: the most of the writers and producers have different stories

1059
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: like they weren't even given the same story of why

1060
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: somebody was taking off the show. So it's like you

1061
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: hear four different stories from four different people, and it's like, Okay,

1062
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: one or two people made that they made this decision

1063
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: and nobody was consulted, and it's just the way it

1064
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 1: ended up being. Um and yeah, you're right. It's it's

1065
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: one thing where you write off a character likely which

1066
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 1: again we look back on and go, that was a travesty.

1067
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: He was so funny. There's so much comedy left on

1068
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: the table, but the character ended in a horrible way.

1069
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: But it is what it is. It's quite another when

1070
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: you're literally ending in a hospital bed where it's such

1071
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: a cliffhanger, like people were coming back is he dead?

1072
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: Is he alive? Plus plus? At that point, Boy Meets

1073
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: World started to become serialized, you know, like you can

1074
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: look at the first season and say, there's a less serialization.

1075
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: It's sort of a week to week we are chasing ratings,

1076
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: we have to make adjustments based on just you know,

1077
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 1: but by season three and four, you're talking about real

1078
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: developed storylines where characters have through arcs that go from

1079
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: episode to episode. So there I I really don't think

1080
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: there's much of an excuse. It's just it's just a

1081
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 1: bump um. Yeah, especially you're talking about important like life

1082
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: things like you know, it wasn't just right, I got

1083
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: Shan got a bad grade a history test. This is

1084
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: like his life is in the balance here because yes,

1085
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: we we had, didn't we have? There was a moment

1086
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: or something about you. I was trying to get you

1087
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: out of this cult. Yeah, and we I think there's

1088
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: a scene. I don't remember what it was, but there's

1089
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: like a scene with you and I in the classroom

1090
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: and I was literally trying to reach out and grab

1091
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: your hand, you know, trying to save you from this thing.

1092
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: So these are life decisions to just go. Yeah, never mind,

1093
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about that anymore. Yeah, it's

1094
00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: just that. Yeah. Do you remember any any fan reaction

1095
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: at the time, Like, do you remember when then those episodes,

1096
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: your episodes, you're done and those episodes have stopped airing.

1097
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: Do you remember livetime fan reaction? No? No, because what

1098
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: happened for me was when I when I was told

1099
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: I wasn't coming back. Sadly enough, I just I was

1100
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: so busy trying to get other work that I just

1101
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: I actually quit watching the show because I was trying training,

1102
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: and then I wanted to I actually got that show

1103
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: at Fox, and uh we started doing that. So that's

1104
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: sort of all my time, and I don't really remember,

1105
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: but I do remember that probably ten years after that's

1106
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: when it started to really become an issue for like

1107
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 1: interactions with people going why didn't they bring you back?

1108
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: When then it was in reruns and people and in

1109
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: the internet was a thing, so everyone was communicating as

1110
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: a and basin saying wait. It also hugely affected us personally.

1111
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you and I didn't see each

1112
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: other for a while, a like we we did for

1113
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: a bit and then we then you start to see

1114
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: each other less. And last me, we were like inseparable.

1115
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: We were like best friends, and then all of a sudden,

1116
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: it was you know, I was your first call when

1117
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: you had your daughter, you know, so it was and

1118
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: your son, and so it was yeah, so it was

1119
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: just you'd go, it's like it's like a set relationship,

1120
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you'd go, we'd go

1121
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: a while and not see each other, and then we'd

1122
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: see each other again, and then we'd not see each

1123
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: other again, and so it was. It affected my life

1124
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: on so many different levels. That's the thing I remember

1125
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: most about it was it just it was more than

1126
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: just the story point, which is obviously huge, but it

1127
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: was it was also just I didn't get to see

1128
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: you all the time. It was it was such a

1129
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: different dynamic for me on the set then, because then

1130
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: I was once again kind of selfishly of course, turning

1131
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: this around and making about me, but was was then

1132
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: thrown back in the middle to where it was like,

1133
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: who do I hang out? You know, my my buddies gone?

1134
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: What do I do now? Well? And and to Tony

1135
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: to the point you were making about it possibly affecting

1136
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: the actors when we've you know, not only personally developed

1137
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 1: relationships with you, but character wise have developed such deep

1138
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: storylines with you, and um, you know, I think about

1139
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 1: the fact that especially Writer and I and Ben were

1140
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, actual children twelve, thirteen years old, fourteen years old,

1141
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: fifteen year olds older. You are a child and um

1142
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: I know for me and I know obviously the relationship

1143
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: you had with Will, but you were one of the

1144
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: adults I put in the same category as David Trainer

1145
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: and then eventually Jeff McCracken when he came in in

1146
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: season three and season four, and of course Best Betsy

1147
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: and Rusty as well to a certain extent, but not

1148
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: quite to the same extent that I'm putting you in

1149
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: this category, which is the adults. I knew I was

1150
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: safe and bonded with like I was bonded with you,

1151
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: My parents were bonded with you. We knew each our

1152
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: families knew each other, and there was a um uh,

1153
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: you know in an adult in working environment when you

1154
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: are a child, the same way a child feels anywhere

1155
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: else in the world, but especially working with a bunch

1156
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: of adults where there's a lot of pressure on you.

1157
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: You are constantly looking for safety nets. The teachers also

1158
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: David Combs, Wesley Staples, people I knew I could go

1159
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: to and totally be myself, totally talk about whatever was

1160
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: going on, hardships, highs, lows, whatever was happening, and not

1161
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: being worried about my job security, just truthfully being myself.

1162
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: And um, I will also say the same friendships Leon

1163
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: Norris being gone. When you then as an actor, you wonder, well,

1164
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: why are we investing in these relationships with the people

1165
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: around us, both character wise and personally when at any

1166
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: point in time they're taken from us with no rhyme

1167
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: or reason, with no explanation, and it gives you, it

1168
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: really is rocks the foundation of um. It just you

1169
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: feel like you have no stability, and it's a it

1170
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: is a it's a crazy feeling, and it's also it's

1171
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of lends itself to to what we were

1172
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: with the conversation we had with Trina, where it was

1173
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: kind of like you start to insulate yourself a little

1174
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: bit from other people around, and then you start to

1175
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: become more and more separated and then yourself. Yeah, but

1176
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: it almost it can read as an animosity towards somebody

1177
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: else where. It's not that at all. It's just your

1178
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 1: what do they call him? And fight club, these single

1179
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: serving friends and it's like I don't know when this

1180
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: person is going to be gone, and I'm investing all

1181
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: my time and energy and then gone and all my

1182
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: all time and then gone. And then so you you

1183
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: start too, well am I going to be gone? Next?

1184
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: Am I? Get? And the conversation has become more stilted,

1185
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: and then it's like you don't talk the way you

1186
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: used to talk, and then all of a sudden, it's like, well,

1187
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: we didn't like each other. It's like, no, it had

1188
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: nothing to do with that. What was it like for

1189
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: you coming back as Mr Turner on Girl Meets World? Um?

1190
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: I was really there's another another long story. Michael. Uh.

1191
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I don't have any social media

1192
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but at the time I think

1193
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: I had like one or two that my son sort

1194
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: of told me to start and whatever. And at some

1195
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: point I started getting all these things on an Instagram

1196
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: thing and it was just like hundreds of them, and

1197
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm going, Okay, something's wrong, because I mean I I

1198
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm doing on this, and it just

1199
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: kept going congratulations and this is fantastic, and I'm going

1200
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: what And then at some point I heard somebody say

1201
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: something about Girl Meets World and this is gonna be great,

1202
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: and I went, I, I don't know what you're talking

1203
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: about Girl Meets World, and so as I certain heard

1204
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: something about Michael, so I emailed Michael and I go, oh,

1205
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: by the way, congratulations, you've caused my email to break

1206
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: and my Instagram. It's like it's like so and he's like,

1207
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,919
Speaker 1: all right, let's get together. So we go to lunch

1208
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: and he goes, I'd really like to have you come

1209
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: back on the show. I'm doing this new thing and

1210
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: it's a boy meeting a girl meets world. That's gonna

1211
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring all the characters back. And I'm like, okay,

1212
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: now it all makes sense. No wonder people were, you know,

1213
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: hit me up on social media and all this stuff.

1214
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: And he goes, yeah, I want to bring you back.

1215
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: And I was nervous because I thought, you know, boy

1216
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: meets World for me and even for like all of

1217
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: you guys. I don't know how you felt about it,

1218
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: but it was like lightning in a bottle. And to

1219
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: try to go back and do it after I don't know,

1220
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: twenty years or whatever, I thought, oh, man, is this

1221
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: gonna Is it gonna work? And I gonna look stupid

1222
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: or you know, I hope I don't look that way.

1223
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: So I was nervous about it at first, but then

1224
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: I thought, well, I would love to be able to

1225
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: see all you guys, if just for that alone. Um.

1226
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: But and and when I did it, it felt like

1227
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: no time had passed, which is it was great. It

1228
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: was great. So that was my experience on that. It

1229
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: was just great to be with you guys. And I

1230
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: was just happy. By that point you and I had

1231
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: very much re established our friendship and had once again

1232
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: been golfing and bullying other thing that's taking each other.

1233
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: Jeff Jeff Sherman. Jeff Sherman was the one. He was.

1234
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: We somehow we had gotten together and he goes, hand,

1235
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go to lunch. And he goes, yeah,

1236
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell will you said. I'm like, go wait, wait

1237
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: what I said, Wilfrid. Now he goes, yeah. I talked

1238
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: to him all the time. I was like, oh, stop it,

1239
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: and I was like give him my number and all

1240
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: this stuff. Yeah, he was the one that started that

1241
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: whole thing. And we were right back in the no

1242
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: pun intended on the golf course, right back in the

1243
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: swing of things, Tony, Tony hitting beautiful shots, me peeling

1244
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,959
Speaker 1: it off somewhere swearing and him going, no, you're doing great,

1245
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: You're doing great. That's that's what. Well, to wrap this

1246
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: up a little bit, what when you look back at

1247
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: your time on Boy Meets World, what are your feelings,

1248
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? How do you how do you

1249
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: think about it now? When you look back at that time. Uh,

1250
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: it was. It was one of the best times of

1251
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: my life professionally for sure. Um. There have been some

1252
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: people that I have worked with that have become my

1253
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: favorite people to work with. Willie Garson was one of

1254
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: my ever people to work with. UM and when he

1255
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: when he passed away, it was really hard for me.

1256
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: But you guys, like you said, Daniel, we had become

1257
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: a family. You were like my family. So the time

1258
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: that I was able to share with you guys and

1259
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: be on that show was one of the best times

1260
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: professionally that I've ever had. Um. It was such a

1261
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: joy to be part of that show and part of

1262
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: your lives and to be able to work together like that.

1263
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: Now did I think years later that it would mean

1264
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: so much to so many people. I didn't really see that,

1265
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: But for me that that was It's just one of

1266
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: the most satisfying times creatively, uh and professionally. So yeah,

1267
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: it was a great time. I got emotional. Yeah, don't

1268
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: get me started. Holy mackerel. Yeah, between the two of you. God, yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, let's not talk about this because I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go We're going there, you go, all right, So let

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Speaker 1: me ask you real quick, just real quick, what is

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Speaker 1: your favorite memory from the show? All of you favorite memory?

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Speaker 1: Just like instinctively, what's your favorite memory? Oh man, like

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Speaker 1: a moment that stands out that you go, I always

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Speaker 1: thought this was fun for me. It's easy, easy, what's

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Speaker 1: your easy? Peasy? My favorite memory of the show, I

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Speaker 1: could what And there's two of them, and it's a tie.

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Speaker 1: The first one is the scene where you're trying to

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Speaker 1: get Danielle and you're hiding in the couch and out

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Speaker 1: takes the outtakes from that moment. You guys are all

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Speaker 1: so funny in that scene. I could watch that over

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Speaker 1: and over and over and still laugh because it's also

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01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: just Will being Will, and it's so clearly ourselves. That's

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Speaker 1: what being backstage was like. I mean, that's what I think.

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Speaker 1: That's why I think it speaks to the audience too,

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Speaker 1: is because they get a little glimpse of what it

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Speaker 1: was like at our set all the time. We were

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Speaker 1: always laughing that hard. We were laughing to tears every day.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's the thing. It's really hard to pinpoint

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Speaker 1: one memory because it's just I just that's what I

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Speaker 1: think of. It's like laughing to tears. It's also changed

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Speaker 1: for me a little bit. Like I would have said

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Speaker 1: the Scream episode episodes where I remember us laughing so much,

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Speaker 1: but lately, like if I think about the show, I

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Speaker 1: think about our pre show scream, like how do we

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Speaker 1: get together and do our screen before the audience introductions?

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Speaker 1: And I just go, what a magical special thing that

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Speaker 1: only we share Because other people can watch those episodes

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Speaker 1: and they can see those moments and see but like

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Speaker 1: that is a private moment for our group, and that

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Speaker 1: is as I've gotten older, I cherished that as as

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Speaker 1: like a memory that I just that, you know, and

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Speaker 1: it's not even one specific time. It's just that vibe

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Speaker 1: of like we're about to do a show and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna kill it tonight and we're gonna trust one another

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01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: and such a good feeling. Yeah. Yeah, I have a

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01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: couple my my on camera one would be just for

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Speaker 1: me as an actor, would have been the There's Two,

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Speaker 1: the first time I got the big laugh that took

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Speaker 1: forever that night, throwing the fertilizer with Carry Russell. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then the scene where Bill messed up his line

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Speaker 1: and gave me the compliment as an actor, those are

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Speaker 1: two very important things to me. Off camera, you and

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Speaker 1: I shooting shotguns inside a strip mall. We go to

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Speaker 1: the So they had this place, which we still don't

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Speaker 1: know how it was legal. I'm half convinced we just

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Speaker 1: made it up in our heads. A place called the

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Speaker 1: north Ridge Pistol and Rifle Range where you'd walk in

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Speaker 1: and there's it was like they'd hand you a large

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Speaker 1: rifle and go go at it in the middle like

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Speaker 1: a strip mall. Literally yeah, And it was us looking

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Speaker 1: at each other going like is this okay? Um? So

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01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: we just had those and writers right, we would We

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01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: came to a point where nine of our conversation was

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01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: spoken in quotes like we just did you touch me?

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Speaker 1: And so it's moments like what is that from? That's

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Speaker 1: from the thing that recently? And Tony would do that

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01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: occasionly out of nowhere. He would just turn to me

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Speaker 1: and like I'd be like, let's go and I go

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01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: to put my hand on me, turn around and go

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01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: you touch me? We go. And it was stuff like

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Speaker 1: that all the time. You guys spoke your own language.

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01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: We did. We were usually gonna go I'm gonna do

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01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: the Jurassic Park thing going, you can have dinosaurs. I'm

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01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: the dinosaur. Oh man, do I hate that? Man? Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's what we did. That's we go by. It was

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Speaker 1: so old school. We go buy laser discs and all

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Speaker 1: you know Dave's laser. It was in the valley. It

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Speaker 1: was easy. And these guys were like, because you know,

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01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 1: I started getting into movies like way later than you two,

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Speaker 1: So you guys were like my mentors. I remember you

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01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: taking me and being like, this is the TV you

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01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: need to buy. I think I spent four thousand fives

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01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: it was five because we all got the same all

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01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: the same TV, that big real projection. And then I

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01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: got my I got a double sided laser disclayer so

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01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,759
Speaker 1: I didn't have to turn over my copy of Braveheart.

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01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: Laser Disky would just turn over for me. Oh my god,

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01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: I was Yes, it was watch those movies. He is

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01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: an absolute encyclopedia. I could quote some random movie and

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01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 1: he would he would say who do the acting was

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01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: and what the movie was, and then and they quote

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01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: all the lines around. Yeah. It was Yeah, how I

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Speaker 1: miss you, Tony. I hope you will you come back?

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Speaker 1: Will you come back with us later in season two?

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01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 1: Of course? Will you get back? And recap an episode

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01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: with us. Of course I would love to do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we okay, great, we have to pick up Good

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Speaker 1: Turner episode of season two. Oh yeah, also say you're

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01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 1: not on much social media, but I know you do cameo,

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Speaker 1: So if anybody wants to get a cameo from Tony Quinn,

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Speaker 1: you got me started on that. Thank you for that,

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Speaker 1: because it's been really great interacting with people and the fans.

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01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 1: They're the best fans, the most complimentary things. Crying. Sometimes

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01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: people will say something to me that's so touching that

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01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: it just it brings tears to my eyes. Yeah, yeah, same,

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01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: We've we've all been there multiple times. Well, I cannot

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Speaker 1: thank you enough for being here with us. It was

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01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 1: so good to see you. I love you as always,

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01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: UM thrilled to have you here, and I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: that you agreed to come back. We can't wait to

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Speaker 1: do it again. Awesome. Thank you guys. I love you

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Speaker 1: Paul so much. Big hugs. That is from that is

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01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: from Trading Places. Uh that was Eddie Murphy said that line.

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01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: It is then followed by dan Ackroyd coming in, well

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01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: it's actually no, it's actually boy me tell story. It

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Speaker 1: is actually followed by the print sabole who comes on

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Speaker 1: to our set. Paul Coffee. Wasn't that his name? No?

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01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: He was who was also Paul's. He was the principal

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01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: in Back to the u in Um Breakfast Club. He

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Speaker 1: came onto our set and his next line is happy

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Speaker 1: it's in this country. We say happy New Year. Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. Excase. Yes, oh I miss you Tony, Well,

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Speaker 1: I miss you so much. I'll talk to you guys.

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01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, please I will take care of guys. Buddy

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01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: oh man reunions. We must be crazy. So his kids

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01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: are in their twenties. Uh Andy is married and Romans

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01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: in the military. Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean

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Speaker 1: Andy was born on the show. Yeah, we were on

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Speaker 1: the show. He was because he called me that night.

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01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: He called me. I was the first call for both

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Speaker 1: his kids. So then she's almost thirty. Yeah, yeah, I'm

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01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: recently married. And you know, because I I would say,

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Speaker 1: Rusty's daughter was probably one of the first like babies

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01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: I was around, or kids I was around, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, and like and I remember Tony's kids too,

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01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: because you know, I didn't have a huge extended family,

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01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: so like people having babies around me and like those

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01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: are the kids I remember hanging out with and you know,

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01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: that's so funny, and he is that what you see

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01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 1: is what you get. He is one of the most

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01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: beautiful people I've ever met in my life. He's been

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01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: that since the first day I met him. He's never

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01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: been different him telling that story, that's how he tells it.

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01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: It doesn't ever come off as bitter. It's just like,

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01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 1: this is what happened. Um, And that's Tony. I mean,

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01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't hold grudges. He's a very he's a as

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01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: my wife would say, his unicorn. He's a very rare person.

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01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 1: He's a great guy and hugely important to me. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: this has been another incredible episode. If I do say so,

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Speaker 1: we're killing it incredible. Thank you for joining us for

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Speaker 1: this episode of Pod Meets World. You can follow us

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Speaker 1: And as always, we have March Wow, a whispered walk

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Speaker 1: you like it, but like an angered like a pained whisper.

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Speaker 1: That's what that was. I love it. Which you can

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Speaker 1: get a Pod meets World Show dot com. So join

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Speaker 1: us for our next episode, which is when we will

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Speaker 1: be recapping episode two O two. Season two episode two

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Speaker 1: called Pairing Off, which originally aired September, and Yeah, can't

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Speaker 1: wait to see how the second episode of the season

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Speaker 1: compares to the first episode of the season where we

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Speaker 1: were all a little uncomfortable. We love you all, pod dismissed.

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