1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ. Bucky 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: back with you. Buck. How you doing, man, Man, I'm good, 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: d J. It's a great, uh football weekend, not only 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: from the NFL standpoint, but college games were terriffic, so uh, 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's pretty good weekend. I want not not 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: not terrific for you because stay leaving down in Miami. 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: But oh Noill Nebile, your Hurricanes are so lucky. The 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: only the only person luckier than the Hurricanes is that's 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: that cat that fell out of the rafters. That's the 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: only thing that's more luctat than the Hurricanes after that game. 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: But Buck, so let me set the scene for you. 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: It's for where I was, and we're gonna get to 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: the Monday night game and we'll get some other NFL 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: and college conversation here in a minute. But so I'm 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm out to dinner in Washington, d C. This really 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: nice restaurant. Mike Wilbon actually sitting in the front of 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: the restaurant when I when I walked back, nice side note, 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: are usay hi to people like that? I I'm gonna 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: leave them alone. Guy uh man, I would have to 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: get a sense that they kind of know a little 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: bit of who I am. I know that's a weird thing. 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: When you go you go hey, because I think you 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: got Hey, Daniel Jeremiah, I work with the NFL network, 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: just want to say hello. There's nothing you might get 26 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: the oh hey, you know, I love love watch you 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: do a great job. Nice to meet you. You know, 28 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: what are you doing in town? Or you might get 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: to like, okay, have a nice dinner. That's the worst. 30 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: So anyways, I didn't I didn't say, but but I 31 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: go back to the table and so we're sitting there. 32 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: It's with the Chargers pr staff and they took us 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: out to a nice dinner and the app games on. 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: There's a TV, but they've got a different game on. 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: So I literally have my phone like in my lap 36 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: and I'm like trying to like sneak down and and 37 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: like my mood was like a roller coaster because it 38 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: was kind of a back and forth, back and forth 39 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: game and then and then they ended up losing. Couldn't 40 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: couldn't finish there at the end of the game. So 41 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm like I to say, I gotta go call my 42 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: wife outside a little bit. Just let take a little break. 43 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: I take five, how to take five? Then go back 44 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: in to the dinner. But yeah, it was a fun 45 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: It was a fun college football weekend outside of that. 46 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: But I want to ask you, first of all, what 47 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: we just saw. You remember a more exhausting Monday night 48 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: game than the one that we had week one? Now, 49 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's it's it's really crazy, DJ like 50 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: because there was so much to to take out of 51 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: that game. Right, So it's your first game, You're gonna 52 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: have some of the mess ups and those things. I 53 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: think everybody is rusty, coaches included in terms of how 54 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: do you go about winning a game that is a 55 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: tight one, How do you manage the clock, how do 56 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: you navigate situations? How do you have you taken your 57 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: thing and rehearse those things. Because it was a game 58 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: where Baltimore had the game wrapped up if they managed 59 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: the clock correctly, they don't. They give the Raiders time, 60 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: The Raiders go knocket, the field goals, send into overtime. 61 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: Then overtime, the Raiders have the game wrapped up, the 62 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: ball is on the one yard line. Don't need to 63 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: get cute, punch it in and then they don't, You 64 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: get an interception, and you go back and forth. And 65 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: so I think a lot of it is managing the 66 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: game and understanding all right, time score situation, what's the 67 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: best thing for us to do, who are we playing against, 68 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: where their threats and all that. It's a lot to 69 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: take in and I think you know, a lot of 70 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: people talked about the preseason you don't really need it, 71 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: but for me, I think coaches still need that to 72 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: kind of shake off some of the rust that comes 73 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: along with having an entire offseason where you're not calling 74 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: the game and you're not playing the game and not 75 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: going through those those things, not having to exercise that 76 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: you normally would have. I want to get to I 77 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: want to get to the Raiders thoughts, but let's start 78 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: with the team that lost the game. That's the Baltimore Ravens. 79 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: So here are some of my takeaways after watching that game. One, Um, 80 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: the culture is still intact, like you can and we'll 81 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: get to the injuries and all the different you know, 82 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: new pieces that they have their um when they're at 83 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: the one line. And this comes from having been there 84 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: and kind of knowing how they operate in their mindset. 85 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: There's a toughness ingrained in that team that's been there 86 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: for twenty plus years. So they're at the one foot line, 87 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: you know that they are all shaking hands, lamars, congratulating 88 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: the Raiders who think the game's over. But then they 89 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: end up putting the ball at the one foot line. 90 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: And I think probably most people watching, we're sitting there saying, okay, 91 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: it's one quarterback sneak, maybe two quarterback sneaks in the 92 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: game's over. And I'm saying you're going, no, no, this 93 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: team will fight until the very and this is not over. 94 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 1: And sure enough, as as you you know, they're situationally aware. 95 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: John Harbod is a great job. They call a little 96 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: they call a little movement up front and just slide 97 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: the line and Leatherwood the rookie left, rookie right tackle 98 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: jumps um. He takes debate. So now you back them 99 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: up and then they get a stinking turnover out of 100 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 1: the thing. But I'm like, that is the Ravens culture, 101 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: because how many teams at any level of football, When 102 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: you're at there, there's a resignation of, well, it's inevitable, 103 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna lose, not not that that that spoke to 104 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: their culture to me. Maybe that people think I'm overreacting 105 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: to that, but to me, that is the Baltimore culture. No, absolutely, 106 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: DJ and so I think tweeted this out as it 107 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: was going on in real time. Uh, when you're around 108 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: good programs and good teams on defense, all you talk 109 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: about as long as you got another player, you have 110 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: a chance. And so the fact that they got they 111 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: got down at the half yard line, it doesn't matter. 112 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: Just give us another snap because you never know what 113 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: happens on the next play. And as you talked about 114 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: it played out, ball is down in the half yard line, 115 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: you get the fall start penalty. Now backs up to 116 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: the five. And now when it backs up to the five, 117 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: when when you're on defense, you're cooking with gas because 118 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: now you're like, oh, they can't say there's no space 119 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: for the can't run this in. It's tight and compacted 120 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: down in the red zone. They're not gonna be able 121 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: to do anything. And then you get the turnover. And 122 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: so at that point I was like, Man, Baltimore played 123 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: it out exactly how you would play it um and 124 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: so it was just really really interesting, what are your 125 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: other thoughts on the Ravens before chip in and that 126 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: yead about that. Yeah, we'll get We'll get over to 127 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: the Raiders here in a second. So I mean, yeah, 128 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: the other thing, the other thing on the raven So, um, 129 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think we talked so much about the 130 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: running back situation, but that running game is gonna be okay. 131 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: I mean they rushed for hundred eighty nine yards. You 132 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: knew Lamar could chip in a little bit more at 133 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: twelve or eighty six. So even with all you know 134 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: that j K Dobbins lost three backs, right, Justice Hill, 135 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: j K Dobbins and Gus Edwards. Um, but I wasn't 136 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: overly concerned with that. I mean, Tyson Williams every seven 137 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: point two yards to carry because the scheme and the 138 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: quarterback make that thing go. But the Marcus Peters injury, 139 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: even though they had a deep, deep group taking him off. 140 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: Dereck car through a four thirty five yards against that bunch, 141 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: So you take him off, I think Matt Judon, you know, 142 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: going in the off season to the Patriots, I think 143 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: you felt that sting a little bit as well. It's 144 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: game one. I don't want to overreact to it, but 145 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: I thought. You know, if you're looking at the Ravens 146 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: and all their injuries, you felt those injuries on defense 147 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: a lot more than you felt those injuries on offense. Yeah. Absolutely, 148 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: a couple of things. I hated the Ravens game plan, 149 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: elaborate um offensively. He is the thing that you talked about. 150 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: And here's what I believe. I believe the running game 151 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: will be fine because the guy who is really the 152 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: RB one is the quarterback. Lamar Jackson makes the running 153 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: game go because of his explosiveness and the dynamic ability 154 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: that he has. When they run all the uh read option, 155 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: fake read option, give stuff where he's carrying out fakes 156 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: and all that, whoever plays running back is going to 157 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: have yards. The interesting thing about the running game the 158 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: last few years, they've been the number one ranked rushing 159 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: offense in football, but the thousand yard rushier in each 160 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: of those years. Lamar Jackson not a running back. So 161 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: that part is fine. But I think we've talked about this, 162 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: and I wonder if this is the thing. I understand 163 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: stand their thought right. Their thought is like, Hey, we're 164 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: gonna draft these guys and we're gonna have a faster, 165 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: more dynamic wide receiver cords. We're gonna put Marquees Brown 166 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: and Sammy Watkins and Devon do Renee and all these 167 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: guys on the field, So now we have an explosive 168 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: track team. In my mind, when they do that, they 169 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: gate some of Lamar Jackson's advantages. When they are at 170 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: their best, in my mind, is when they put the 171 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: bigs on the field, tight ends and fullbacks, because defensively, 172 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: you gotta counter with linebackers and defensive ents. He has 173 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: a significant speed advantage when they're playing big on big. 174 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: When you put all the little guys in, you new 175 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: have dime and quarter package six seven dbs on the field. 176 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: So now his speed isn't as impactful as it is 177 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: against the big guys. And going back to the playoff 178 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: game that you saw a couple of years ago when 179 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley was with the Chargers and the Charges go 180 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: on the road and they beat Baltimore. Part of the 181 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: reason why they beat Baltimore is because in that game 182 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: Marty Moorenwig and Greg Roman decided they wanted to put 183 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: ten personnel on the field, which allowed Derwin James and 184 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: they didn't have any line. The Chargers played with no 185 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: linebackers and they played with all little guys and they 186 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: were able to negate it. So I understand the push 187 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: to a we got to develop up and refine the 188 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: passing game. The thing is, I think the passing game 189 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: needs to be a passing game that comes off play action, 190 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: comes from under center, and comes from their big guys 191 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: being on the field rather than all those little guys. 192 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: I think they come back to the pack when they 193 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: play ten and eleven personnel versus being different with twelve 194 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: thirteen personnel and all the big bodies on the field. 195 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: So I just hate the way it looks because I'm like, man, 196 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: you're you're slowing yourself down by putting more of these 197 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: small guys. And also the small guys don't block like 198 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: the like the big guys. Yeah no, you brought up 199 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: a great point, Buck. I think that's a great way 200 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: to look at it. Because Lamar is gonna be on 201 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: the field regardless, So it's your choice. You get to 202 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: you get to populate the rest of the field. You 203 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: want to populate the field with little, fast guys. You 204 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: want to populate to feel big slow guys Like I 205 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: want as many big slow guys out there as I 206 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: can get yes and and and so I didn't like it. 207 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: From that, your point about Marcus Peters is one that 208 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: is is huge. And so here's what we'll see is 209 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: we'll see the depth of Martindale when it comes to 210 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: how can he create pressure while changing the look in 211 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: the back end, Meaning Baltimore likes to play a lot 212 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: of man to man right because they've always invested in cornerbacks. 213 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: Their cornerbacks can lock you down, whether it's press or off. 214 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: They can do things to take your way and they 215 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: don't mind being and cover one, which means there's a 216 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: safety in the post or cover zero, no safety in 217 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: the post. We're bringing pressure, we're locking up, and we 218 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: feel like our guys on the outside are better than 219 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: your guys. But now when you lose Marcus Peters, who 220 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: is look high risk, high reward, a gambler, but we've 221 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: seen the turnovers that he delivers when he's on actually 222 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: behind a rush right, because now he's squatted because he's saying, 223 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: you're not going to have time to get the double 224 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: move out if the double move comes a coach, and 225 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: sometimes you lose. But now when you have guys who 226 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: aren't as tight and refined and coverage, you have a 227 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: tendency to get exposed because the touchdown played the Za Jones. 228 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey is a terrific guy, but they put bunch 229 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: and technic. You're not really supposed to press and cover 230 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: zero because you don't have a safety. You make it 231 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: very easy for the quarterback to identify that the pressure 232 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: is coming and if he's able just to buy time 233 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: like Derry Carr did, he just threw a tear drop 234 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: fade away across the field and let this guy run 235 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: up under. If you get rubbed off, it ends up 236 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: being an easy six. And so I'm just curious to 237 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: see how much will this coverage evolve as they moved 238 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: as they move forward in terms of just how they 239 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: play the game. All right, flip it over to the Raiders. 240 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: Um takeaways there. I know a lot of people were 241 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: talking about Darren Waller getting nineteen targets and I think 242 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: they were kind of making fun of it at that 243 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: And then I'm sitting here going like I'm kind of 244 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: a best guy. I'm a best ball guy. Like that's 245 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: the best dude, He's gonna get the ball, Like I 246 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: have no problem with that. No, Um, I have a 247 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: buddy of mine who coaches women's basketball, and uh, he's 248 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: talked to Gena R. Emmitt and Geno R. E. M says, Oh, 249 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: best players take all the shots. Whoever my best whoever 250 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: my best players are, they take all the shots. If 251 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: you get a shot and you're not wanting you you're 252 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: one of the compliments. You better be off a putback 253 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: or a run out on the steel. But the job 254 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: is to get the ball to the best players so 255 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: they can do the shots that I mean, that's what 256 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: you do. And so for me, absolutely, if if Darren Wallet, 257 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: who we can sit here and argue one of the 258 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: top three tight ends in football, he should get nineteen 259 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: targets because if he gets nineteen targets and if he 260 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: gets half of those the productions which he basically for five, Yeah, 261 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: the production he's going to deliver, it's going to be 262 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: better than my other guys. So now I'm with you. 263 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: Best players get it. Everybody else they figure it out. 264 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: Best players are gonna get it though. Now look, if 265 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: you're coaching little league team and they let you hit 266 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: your best hitter first, third, fifth, seventh, you would hit 267 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: him in all those different lineups. You have to wait 268 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: from the goal the way back around the lineup. You 269 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: didn't have to don't don't make it hard, you guy, 270 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: get him going. Yeah. Some of the other guys O. 271 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: Brian Edwards made some play, especially late gosh, I think 272 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: he had he had four for eighty one average twenty 273 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: to catch. Hit a hit a big one to uh 274 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs of thirty seven yards. I think you can 275 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: find a way to get him some more shots down 276 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: the field. But he did his thing, and I thought, 277 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, defensively, the pass rush, you know, has been 278 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: the issue for the Raiders, and you see in Gokway 279 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: come over and Max Krosby really being healthy. Um and man, 280 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: he just I guess with villaing a Waiver I think 281 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: was the right tackle. He just wore that. He wore 282 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: him out. Whoever was over, I remember it was villain 283 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: a Waver who the right now, right man? He was Waldo. 284 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: And here's the other thing about the Raiders, this is 285 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna give them credit for it because people 286 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: took shots at them in the pre game. About the 287 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: inactive list. McClellan farrell was un inactive list number one 288 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: overall pick fourth over I mean number A first round 289 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: pick fourth overall when he came out inacted. But DJ 290 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: to me in the locker room, if we have the 291 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: premise that best players play, regardless of what they come 292 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: in as first round, second round, undrafted, the best player 293 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: has to be on the field. And when you make 294 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: that statement that Max Crosby, a fourth round pick in 295 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: that same class, has outplayed the other guy, if he 296 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: does it, I think you earned credibility in the locker 297 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: room as opposed to know we took him. We're gonna 298 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: say a face, We'll figure it out. No, I like 299 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: play and Max Crosby played hard and Yanni can gottway 300 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: prior to the injury where he sets out the last 301 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: half of the game. I mean they had their way 302 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: with him, and so to me, I thought it was good. 303 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: And what the Raiders did. I think the only blizz 304 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: two times in the game. One of the things that 305 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: you do when you have an athlete like Lamar Jackson 306 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: on the field, do not get into the thing of 307 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: we're going to play man demand because when he breaks 308 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: the pocket, you don't have all eyes on him, because 309 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: when he breaks the pocket, it becomes a bigger play. 310 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley did a good job of playing zone, keeping 311 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: it in front and let him ring up some of 312 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: these underneath completions in those things. They won't kill us 313 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: with those nickels and dimes. It's the big plays, the 314 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: quarters in dollars that end up making you go broke. 315 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: So they did a really good job with that, and 316 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: then they dialted up selectively they were able to get home. Yeah, 317 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, and look, you know, Max Crosby was awesome 318 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: two years ago. Last year he wasn't totally healthy but 319 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: was still their best rusher. Now you see him healthy 320 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: to sacks him, he's gonna he's gonna have a Pro 321 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: Bowl year. He's really really talented. Four quarterback hits in 322 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: this game as well. Um Denzel Perriman, familiarity with Gus 323 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: Bradley coming over let lead the team and tackles. Um 324 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: so he's out there doing his thing. Had some physicality 325 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: and some toughness and look the biggest play of the night, 326 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: Karl Nassa ended up dialing it up, got the sack 327 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: and the forced fumble. So um, I thought for Gus 328 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: Bradley's crew, uh in a game where it looked the 329 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: Ravens still ran the ball well and Lamar had a 330 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: couple of shots down the field, but you hold Lamar 331 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: to two hundred thirty five yards passing, you sacked him 332 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: three times. Um, it sounds crazy you give a hundred 333 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: and eighty nine yards to the five point six average. 334 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: But I felt like they did a pretty good job, 335 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: you know, corral and that that that run game, so 336 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: to speak, which is weird to say, hunder Almos two 337 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: hundred yards rushing. That the Ravens heartbeat, and that's they 338 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: played five quarters of football. Yeah, so so here's the thing. 339 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: And then talking to some NFL defensive coordinators, they'll say 340 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: this sometimes when you enter a game, you say, I'll 341 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: let you run for as many as you can because 342 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: two things happen when the team is running the ball. One, 343 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: it takes longer for you to deliver those explosive plays 344 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: on the grunt on the ground as opposed to through 345 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: the air. The second thing is you want to make 346 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens have to take a bunch of plays 347 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: to score, and as long as you're not giving up 348 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: big plays and you're playing good red zone defense, the 349 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: game is in your favor. When you look up at 350 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: the score, that's not enough points for me to feel like, 351 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: if I'm the Raiders, I can't get to that number. 352 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: But if I allow Lamar Jackson and those guys that 353 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: have big plays in the number gets up to thirty. 354 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: Now it's more pressure on me. They have to put 355 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: my foot on the gas when I'm on offense against 356 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: a defense that is also saying we're gonna come after 357 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: you because you know you're chasing points. So to me, 358 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: I thought the game planning was solid. I thought it 359 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: was good and it worked. Last thing because you brought 360 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: this up about billing the waiver when we were talking 361 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: about the Raiders. Another reason why I don't like the 362 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: game plan in terms of Baltimore. Your personnel has to 363 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: match your style of play, and when I look at 364 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: the Ravens personnel up front, it is one that is 365 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: better going forward then going backwards. So even though they 366 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: need to eventually expand their passing game, their personnel upfront 367 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: is not conducive to be in a team that throws 368 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: over thirty times a game because those guys get exposed 369 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: when the opponent is in pass fresh mode. I just 370 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: think Greg Roman John Hardbot need to be careful about 371 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: how they go about calling the game to protect their 372 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: guys because they don't necessarily do what they do well 373 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: when they're always passing. Yeah, and I don't know how 374 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: long do we know, I'll look this up here while 375 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: we're doing this. How long Nick Boyle is out? He's 376 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: on short term, I are, so he's gonna be out 377 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: for a little bit. But putting him back in the 378 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: mix is that he kind of brings some of that 379 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: bowly mentality at the tight end position. Um, they missed 380 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: him too, because I think that again, get your bigs 381 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: on the field, and he's a really good big, particularly 382 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: what he does in the run game. Before we go 383 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: around to some other thoughts around the league book, I 384 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: want to give you a new phrase because we here, 385 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: we're here scouting phrases and football phrases all the time. 386 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: So this is one that uh. I was on the 387 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: Chargers team plane on the way back talking to somebody 388 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: in the plane. He brought this up and thought, you 389 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: know what, that is a great phrase. I'm writing that down. 390 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: So the Chargers got the ball back and that game 391 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: was six minutes left against Washington with the league. They 392 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: they finished the game. They finished the game right out 393 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: the last six minutes and you know, what the phrase 394 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: that he used. I thought, you know what, this is 395 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: what it is? This is he said, we throughout the clock. 396 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: How many times have you heard we got to run 397 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: out the clock. You've been hearing it for decades, right, 398 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: you gotta get the ball? Were to run out the clock? Like, no, 399 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: they threw out the clock. It was Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen, 400 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: because guess what if you complete the pass, the clock 401 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: still moves. So to me, it was like, we've got 402 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: who who If we want to end the game with 403 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: our best players, that's justin Herbert and he's gonna be 404 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: getting the ball to Keenan Allen. So another for us 405 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: to keep the sticks moving and to run out the clock. 406 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: We're not gonna run it, We're gonna throw it. And 407 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, I've never heard anybody say 408 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: throw out the clock. But you get the ball back. 409 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: In the NFL, the four minute offense, we think of 410 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: tight ends and big backs and run the ball the 411 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: games over. Like not some of these teams are better 412 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: equipped to throw out the clock than to run out 413 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: the clock. Okay, so it goes It goes back to 414 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 1: the to the theme that you alluded to, and I'm 415 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: gonna kind of put a phrase over top of that's 416 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: players not plays. So when you're looking at your favorite 417 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: team and you're thinking about how they should play, rank 418 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: the players from one to ten, and on offense, the 419 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: top players need to account for the majority of the 420 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: touches because more times than not, my best players are 421 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: going to beat your best players. So even though you've 422 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: drawn up this fancy little play, it is about players, 423 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 1: not plays. And in the four minute offense and in 424 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 1: critical situations, that's what it comes down to. Who are 425 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: my best players, what's my best matchup? Get the ball 426 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: to the best players, worried less about what the play 427 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: looks like. So I was thinking back, remember the Chiefs 428 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: last year against the Browns fourth Tony Romo, They're gonna 429 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: go for it. I can't believe they're just gonna try 430 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: and get them jump off sides. Nope, they snapped it. 431 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: Are they running it? Heck no, they're not running it. 432 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes hands game over. Figure it out, d J. 433 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: That's what it is. And who do you trust more? 434 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: You have to put because here here's the thing where 435 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: you can sleep good at night, regardless of whether it 436 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: works or not. If I give the ball to my 437 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: best player. If I have Michael Jordan's Michael Jordan's and 438 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm feel Jackson on the thing and I'm drawing 439 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: up the last play, well i can sleep good at night. 440 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: And Michael Jordan takes the last shot and misses. But 441 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: what I'm not going to do. I ain't gonna have 442 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: John Paxson taking a whole bunch of them last minute shots, 443 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna go down with Michael Jordan's taking the shot. 444 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: And so I think we have to condition ourselves as coaches, 445 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: as people looking at it. How can I get it 446 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: to my best player? My best player needs to I 447 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: will live or die with my best player dictating whether 448 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: we lose or or win or lose. But what I'm 449 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: not going to do is just dark or play because 450 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: I like to play, and whoever gets it, I'm gonna 451 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: live with it. No best player has to ultimately determined 452 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: and dictate the game. And to go back to that 453 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: bowls analogy like even on the games where Paxson would 454 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: hit the game winners, guess what Mike made that decision? 455 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: Will you put the ball in Michael's hands and then 456 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: Michael knows what's best, and Michael's gonna draw attention, and 457 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: maybe that makes it easier for somebody else. Maybe that 458 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes with hit ball rolling out is gonna draw 459 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: a lot of attention. He's gonna be able to make 460 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: a decision, get the ball where it needs to go. Like, 461 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: I think you're really onto something there. I think the 462 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: good teams put the ball in the best player his hands, 463 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: and we can win or lose with sleep well at 464 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: night knowing exactly, you know, we did what we needed 465 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: to do and it it works out or it doesn't. 466 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: But man, that's a defeating feeling when you get back 467 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: on the bus after the game and you're like, we 468 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: didn't even throw our best punch against this team. We 469 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: didn't So okay. So this is funny because going back 470 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: to the Thursday night game Dallas and Tampa, there's a 471 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: lot made of Dak Prescott throwing at fifty eight times 472 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: and why didn't they run it Ezekiel Elliott? Is this 473 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: or whatever I believe in the building, there's a little 474 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: sense of Dak Prescott has surpassed Ezekiel Elliott as their 475 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: best offensive player, and now they're more willing to trust 476 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: number four than Number twenty one and some of those 477 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: situations because he's earned the right to be that guy 478 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: and the decisions those things. I think that matters. And 479 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: as you talk about watching the Chargers each and every week, 480 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert has quickly established himself as the best player. 481 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: And so now it's about a what can we do 482 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: to make the best player comfortable? What do I need 483 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: to surround him with? Oh, we got the offensive tackle, 484 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: we have Keenan Allen. Maybe we need another playoss catcher. 485 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: What can I do to make my best player comfortable 486 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: so that he can dominate? Because in a seventeen game season, 487 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: if my best player gets loose, I'm gonna win a 488 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: ton of games because that's how get my best players. 489 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: All Right, this is a random question. Um in a uh, 490 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: I guess it would be like a royal rumble. Maybe like, uh, 491 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: if we took all eight teams from the West Coast, 492 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: there eight no right, NFC West, a f C West eight, 493 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: no better division? Which one is a better division? A 494 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: f C West, NFC West. We're one game and it's 495 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: just a fun it's just a fun conversation. What do 496 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: you think those are two? These are two best divisions 497 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: in football? Right now, I'm saying one, two and three, Uh, 498 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: the Rams, Niners, and Seahawks are And then when you 499 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: see the card and it was that is I would 500 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: take the NFC West just because I don't know how 501 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: good the Raiders really are. M hm. They won a 502 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: lot of emotion home game, new stadium home game. I 503 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: think I know how good those NFC West teams. Yeah, 504 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: I think the Charges, Broncos and Chiefs are good, but 505 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: from top to bottom, I feel like that NFC West 506 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: squad they're really good. Yeah, that's a that's a challenge 507 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: for somebody, somebody that's listening out there. Make an all 508 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: star team of the all twenty two players for the 509 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: NFC West versus the a f C West and see 510 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: who you would who you would rook for, who you 511 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: think would be the better team. I think if we 512 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: did that, a compilation of the players, um, you got 513 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: you got one Boats on one team, another Boats on 514 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: the other team. You've got Patrick Mahomes on one team, 515 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson on the other. I mean, it's a man, 516 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: it's like the Left Coast is running football right now 517 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL level. Oh absolutely, I mean they've done 518 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: a really good job and I think what you're seeing 519 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: is the versatility and the ability to change styles in game, 520 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: run it through. It is also not a coincidence. Um, 521 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: every team that you meant has a quarterback. When you 522 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: have a quarterback, the game becomes a lot easier. You know, 523 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: we can talk about team building and the pecking water 524 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: and what you prioritize, but when you get that piece right, 525 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to build out the rest of 526 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 1: your team. Yeah, and I'm looking at it going, Okay, 527 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh has been in a super Bowl recently. Shanahan's 528 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: been in a couple recently. You know, Pete wasn't that 529 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: long ago, and he you know, he did this thing. 530 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: I mean, and then you've got Kingsbury is the young, 531 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: you know, young guy with a really talented quarterback and 532 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: a good young team. Um, and you've got Andy Reid, 533 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: You've got John Gruden, and then you've got you know, 534 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: Vic Fangiel kind of these veteran guys. And then you've 535 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: got you know, McVeigh two point oh with the Chargers 536 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: in Brandon Staley, who's the defensive equivalent to what Sean 537 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: is on the offensive side. I mean, it's a it's fun, man. 538 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it is. We got the super Bowl. 539 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: It's so far this year. Maybe we end up with 540 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: a team from the NFC West and a team from 541 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: the f C West. Keep it a West coast of 542 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: fair anything else you want to add, NFL wise back 543 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: before we get to this USC stuff. No, man, Look, 544 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: I think the great thing about ball is um we 545 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: get a chance to see people do it between the 546 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: between the lines, and the thing is people always change. 547 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: So a lot of overreaction this week after what we 548 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: saw in week one. But understand, and I think we 549 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: used to talk about this in the in the building 550 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: when we work for our respective teams. The biggest jump 551 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: to teams make is between week one in week two 552 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: because in the pros you don't really utilize the preseason 553 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: um where you're really seeing your guys. You don't really 554 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: know what you have until you really start playing games, 555 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: and after you see your team playing real games, the 556 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: great coaches can make adjustments, So don't overreact to what 557 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: happens the first couple of weeks of the season. The 558 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: great coaches will shift on the fly and make adjustments, 559 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: and those adjustments will be really, really significant. Yeah, I'm 560 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: looking forward to Week two. We'll talk about some of 561 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: those games on Thursday as well. Um, I want to 562 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: get to the USC letting Clay Helton go. We knew 563 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: it was kind of what was coming eventually. I know 564 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: some people will say, how you know on Clay's defense, like, 565 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: it's two games into the season, how do you make 566 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: a change? I think to me from the outside looking in, 567 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: they probably wanted to do this last year, but it 568 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: was such a weird year. It's a pandemic. They only 569 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: played the Pack twelve south right and there were no 570 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: good teams there. So they go undefeated before they go, uh, 571 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, kind of lay an egg against Oregon in 572 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: the Pac twelve game, but you can't fire him off 573 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: that coming off all that. But it sounds to me 574 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: like they kind of knew this was happening. And I 575 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: give USC some credit here, um, and this is something 576 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: you'll see at the college level and the NFL level. 577 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: There's nothing to me that's worse. The only thing works 578 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: in getting fired is that knowing they're already trying to 579 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: find your replacement and you've got to come to work 580 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: every single day, like, let's let's have some decency here 581 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 1: and know like we're gonna start trying to you know, 582 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: poke around and try and do some homework on these coaches. 583 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: We're not going to have you find out about that. 584 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: So so let's just agree to move on and then 585 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: and then off you go. So I thought it was 586 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: it was smart thing to do and probably the ethical 587 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: thing to do by the administration there to make the change. 588 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: But it begs the question when we were when we 589 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: were scout, when we were younger in the scouting game, USC, 590 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: was it? I mean that was to catch me out? 591 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: It was. It was the most dominant program in college 592 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: football under Pete Carroll for a handful of years. Can't 593 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: get back to that and what needs to happen? Yeah, 594 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: it can get back to that. But I think, um 595 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: a few different things. First about the Clay Hilton thing. 596 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: Um if USC I felt like it, because look, when 597 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: you pull the plug after two games, you weren't really 598 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: in love with Clay Hilton anyway, You're probably better off 599 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: to make the move and just live with the bad 600 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: pr impressed that comes after that because you just don't know. 601 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: And when you do that, what happens is you probably 602 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: feel better about the process because now what you've done DJ, 603 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: you wasted a year. This year ends up being a waste, 604 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: right because unless the interim coach is going to ascend 605 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: to being the head coach, like you've stunted the growth 606 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: of the team in the direction of the leader that 607 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: you wanted. And so when I think about USC, there 608 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: are a couple of things, and talking to a bunch 609 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: of people who have always been associated with the program, 610 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: even yesteryear players or whatever their people tied to USC, 611 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: who have a tough time not seeing USC in the 612 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: same light as we talk about Alabama Clemson in Ohio state. Now, 613 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: I will say we are both out here in Southern California. 614 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: There's really no reason why USC shouldn't be and all 615 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: the best players in Southern California are playing for those 616 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: teams you just mentioned. Yeah, Southern California is a hot 617 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: bed for football. And we can argue and debate the 618 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: merits of whether the best football is played in Texas, Florida, 619 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: Georgia and Southern breaks Day and Bosto been beating the 620 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: breaks off all those teams for five years. I will 621 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: say that there are enough a level players in Southern 622 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: California that you can feel the team that is a 623 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: dominant team. And I will also say that this is 624 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: very similar to if we talk about uh, the You, 625 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: when the You emerged as the beast that it was, 626 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: and it was a quote unquote state of Miami. If 627 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: I am USC, I gotta throw a fence around the neighborhood. 628 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: In southern California. There is no reason for anybody in 629 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: l A County, Orange County, Vertura County to get outside 630 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: of the state. They should be going to USC and 631 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: so the recruiting has to be inside out. They don't 632 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: need to venture outside of the state of California unless 633 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: that dude is a legitimate dude. If we go back 634 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: to looking at the teams, because everything kind of goes 635 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 1: back to more recently Pete Carroll. The Pete Carroll teams 636 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: were California heavy, but the guys that were out of 637 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: staters were impact players. Cushing, you don't venture outside of 638 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: the state unless it's a five star type player that 639 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: is going to play to that level. Outside of that, 640 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: they need to mind tend to their knitting in their backyard. 641 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: And so it's a program that can do it. But 642 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: the here's the thing, who is the next coach that 643 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: you can bring? Because I believe the guy has to 644 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: have casche. They have to not in him somebody on 645 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: the staff. They need to be dominant recruiters in Southern California. 646 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: They need to be dominant in terms of being able 647 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: to make sure that the guys stay at home, and 648 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: they need to have some sway about them because if 649 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: they don't, you have to be able to walk in 650 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: when when I'm Southern calp Because my guys who played 651 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: at Southern cal when John McKay was there, DJ they 652 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: ran four or five plays. Everybody knew what they were, 653 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: but they were so talented it didn't matter. And if 654 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: you think about the Pete Carroll things, I won't say 655 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: that it was excellent wizardry that made them dominant. My 656 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: players are better than your players. I got Reggie Bush, 657 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: I got lived There White, I got Big. We're better 658 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: than you. You can't stop us, so away they go. 659 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 1: And I think it has to be a level of 660 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: that athletic arrogance that is that re emerges in the 661 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: SC program. They should not feel like they inferior to 662 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: any program that they're playing against. A couple of things 663 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: they made Dante Williams, the the interim head coach. He 664 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: is for those who know. So one of the best 665 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: recruiters in the country. He was at Oregon, got a 666 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: lot of those top players there. At organ they made 667 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: him the interim head coach coaches dbs IF and I 668 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: don't know who knows what happened, but my guess outside 669 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: looking in is if I'm Mike Bone, the athletic director 670 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: at USC, I go to Dante and I say this, 671 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: you are best recruiter. Here's what I can tell you. 672 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: You are guaranteed going to be on this next coaching staff. 673 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: Where you are at USC, we want you and we're 674 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: gonna give you a nice bump up to take on 675 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: this interim title here. You're not gonna be Let's just 676 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: get this out. You know, if you're goingndefeated, you're not 677 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 1: gonna be the head coach at USC, not right now, 678 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: be honest with you, but we're gonna pay you handsomely. 679 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna be our you know, a part of this 680 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: next staff. And now you go tell every kid that's 681 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: currently committed to us that you're not going anywhere. Their 682 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: parents can know Dante is gonna be there, you know 683 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: when when you come and you can still actively recruit 684 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: and let kids like, trust me, this administration has given 685 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: us resources. I'm gonna be a part of this new staff. 686 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: I don't know about the rest of the staff, but 687 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here. Take that to the bank, um 688 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: and still actively recruit while you're waiting, and then promise him. Look, 689 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: we're waiting for the best candidate. And they have everything 690 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: that I kind of here is that they have money. 691 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: Now they've always said, but they are committed to making 692 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: this work, and so there's gonna be it's gonna be 693 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: a big name. I mean I can sit here and say, like, oh, 694 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: maybe this you know Tony Elliott, who was a great 695 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: coach at Clemson's He's not that's not big enough that 696 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: they have to go huge. And here's the pressure. I 697 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 1: think somebody wrote about this. I don't know if it 698 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: was Pete Tamo, if it was Bruce or somebody, but 699 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: tell me if this is an exaggeration that the Pac 700 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: twelve future will be determined by what USC does with 701 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: this next higher if West Coast football is to be 702 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: relevant and Oregan did a great job. They went to 703 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: beat Ohio State and Organs having a great year, but 704 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: in order for the PAC twelve to stay relevant, and 705 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: where the SEC is just taken off and the big 706 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: ten is solidified with with what they have, USC has 707 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: to hit a home run and USC has to be 708 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: on Alabama's level. They have to get to that level. 709 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: They have the capabilities. We've talked about all the talent 710 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: that's here. But to me, they gotta go big. They 711 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: gotta go big with this higher They gotta go big. Now, 712 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this because to me, I feel like 713 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: this is the elephant in the room right And here 714 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: why Urban Meyer, Yeah, here's why they shouldn't have dragged. 715 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: This is why they should have drag defeat last year. Yeah, 716 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: like you and I both had heard some of the 717 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: rumblings about the interests and inquiries and all that other stuff. 718 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: What they should have done. They should have pulled a 719 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 1: plug last year and they should have thrown the King's 720 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: ransom at him because d J, you and I know 721 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: how he gets down and what he is. When we 722 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: talk about the athletic arrogance and the stuff that you 723 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: have to have to rebuild s C he has that. 724 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: I mean, he's dripping in that and and being able 725 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: to watch what he's done with Jacksonville already, I could 726 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: already envision what he would have done with the SEC 727 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: program right out the gate, right out the gate, because 728 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: number one thing that SC has to have to me 729 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: any toughness. They have to they have to have toughness. 730 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: When I look and cast my eye up to the 731 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest and what Mario crystal Ball has got the 732 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: job of doing. He has built Oregon like an SEC team. 733 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: And if the Pac twelve wants to be in the 734 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: same conversation as the SEC, they have to have teams 735 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: that can go and play like the SEC. I don't 736 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: think it's a coincidence when I look at U c 737 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: l A and it's taken Ship Kelly a while. But 738 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: to me, they are trying to play SEC football at 739 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: U c l A. So U c l A is 740 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: doing it. I'm looking at Oregon, they're doing it. Stanford 741 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: to me, still needs to pick it up. But they 742 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: played physical football. It has to be a toughness about them. 743 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: That's their calling card. So that's once or Urban mind 744 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: would be the guy or whatever. I don't think. I 745 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: think the buyout is so prohibited. I don't think that 746 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: can be UM. So now we're looking out at the 747 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: landscape and we're trying to figure out, well, who can 748 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: do it naturally? Um, you know there's gonna be some 749 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: conversation about will should they go and get Luke Fickle 750 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: because of the relationship with the A D and those things. 751 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: Lou Fickle has spent time at how your state. Lou 752 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: Fickle has built up Cincinnati. They're now going to a 753 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: conference and they've done things. The only thing I worry 754 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: about when you've done all your work in the Midwest, 755 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 1: l a. West Coast life is different. West Coast kids 756 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: are different than those that you dealt with in the Midway. 757 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: It's just a different thing. And I just don't know 758 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: if he could confidently know the lay of the land 759 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: to do it and do it quickly without making a 760 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: few hiccups and mistakes that you do some of those 761 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: other names, James Franklin and all those other things, like 762 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: that's That's Pine, the Saska. I don't know. It has 763 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: to be a big name. I don't know who the 764 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: big name is outside of the guy that we talked about. 765 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: Can I tell you who I would who I would contact? 766 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: And the thing is, look, we can say, oh, this 767 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: guy's got a great job. Well, Southern California has its 768 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: a lure and if they can really if they can 769 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: like really commit and pay pay like I'm talking real real, 770 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: like talking ten million a year or whatever. I just 771 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: thought of number, like big, big money over what these 772 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: guys are making. I'm calling Brian Kelly, Hey calling that 773 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: might be the first one that I would contact and 774 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: be like, Brian, look, you've got Notre Dame into the playoff, 775 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: like you've done a phenomenal job and you can get 776 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: I think Notre Dame has in recruiting is is like consistently. 777 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: I would guess I'd have to go back probably like 778 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: seven to ten. He can get different players because he 779 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: can get all the whole world opens up if he 780 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: went to USC and now you can say he's he's 781 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: met He's met Nick Saban on the field, and he's 782 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: gotten from the first time he met him the second time. 783 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,959 Speaker 1: His teams have gotten better. But the gap is still 784 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: tremendous between what he can get at Notre Dame and 785 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 1: what what Nick can get at Alabama. USC can get 786 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: the players that Alabama can get, like they literally can. 787 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: I mean, it's going to your arrival. And I'm sure 788 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: people will laugh for this and say never in a 789 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,479 Speaker 1: million years. Notre Dame is the greatest job of all time. 790 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: I'm usc I'm placing that phone call. Yeah. The other 791 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: thing about that DJ, we talked about you need to 792 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: have a proven turnaround specialists. He's proven it everywhere he's been, 793 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: He's turned it around. He's done it at a high level. 794 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: Can't be any more pressure than coaching at Notre Dame 795 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: in terms of that marquee national brand, the amount of 796 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: UH Subway fans, Subway alumni that is there, that ratches 797 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: up the pressure each and every year. They play a 798 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: big time schedule every year. You drop him at SC 799 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: and you give him the resources where he doesn't necessarily 800 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: have to worry about the same kind of academic restrictions. 801 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: When it comes to some of the players getting in, 802 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: it does open up a difference. He's recruited SoCal too, 803 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: Like he knows he's a quarterback that got that that 804 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: came in is from San Diego with the Bishops. Um, 805 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: so that would be one. So I'm calling him, Like 806 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: people will laugh at these names, but I'm telling you, 807 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: I called I would call Lincoln Riley. I would call 808 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley and and say, hey, look, you know you 809 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: want to live in Norman, Oklahoma. You want to live 810 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: in Manhattan Beach and we're gonna pay you a ton 811 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: of money. Um. Yeah, So, I mean he's the king 812 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: of his He's the king of the kingdom there. But 813 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: guess what, you getting ready to go on the sec 814 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: You're no longer You're no longer you know the king 815 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: when you when you go into that conference, come out 816 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: here and run the West Coast. Okay, let's let's think 817 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: of it this way. Is there because because it has 818 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: to be a big name, Is there an NFL coach 819 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: that would pique your interests to take it over just 820 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: because of the success that they have when Pete Carroll came. 821 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: Is there an NFL coach that maybe could follow a 822 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: familiar group blueprint and and and and bring it back 823 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: or bring it back to prominence. Well, I mean we 824 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 1: both know. I think he would be a great hire. 825 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley would be a home run. But he wouldn't 826 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: be They couldn't give it. It's just not sexy enough. 827 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: They wouldn't before that. But in terms of like NFL 828 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: guy energy, I think you'd be a great recruiter all 829 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: that stuff. If you talk about Jack del Rio, Yeah, 830 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: but I think that the recruiting, Um, the recruiting side 831 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: of it, and you're in the NFL and you're making 832 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,720 Speaker 1: a lot of money and you don't have to recruit, 833 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard. It's gonna be hard, you know 834 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: because like even like Joe Brady, I don't know if 835 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: Joe would be a dynamic recruiter may but I know 836 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: one thing. He ran the best college offense I think 837 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 1: I've ever seen at L s U. He would get 838 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 1: sc rolling in terms of the offensive side. But Joe Brady, 839 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: You're sitting there going, man, I'm like Carolina, Sam Donald 840 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: looked pretty good. I have a good year this year. 841 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be an NFL head coach. Like an NFL 842 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: head coaching job. Why would I go take a college job? Yeah? No, 843 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: it's it's different. You know. It's funny because now the 844 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: money is is so similar between college and for us 845 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: about the headaches and which headaches do you want to manage? Um, 846 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: I think I think there's more college coaches making huge 847 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: money than their our NFL coaches. Like they're big money. 848 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 1: It's it's it's I mean, it's it's a big time gig. 849 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: So I do wonder if there's someone out there in 850 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: the offering that they're looking at, like, all right, you know, 851 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: let's look at the proof because we kind of exhausted 852 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: some of the college names. Because DJ, it has to 853 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: be someone who has some gravitas that when you say 854 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: a SC just hired, WHOA they're serious. It has to be. 855 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: It has to be a they're serious. Whoever the quarterback 856 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: is the model. I don't know who the modern date 857 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: quarterback is, but whoever the top quarterback in southern California. 858 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: When that higher is announced, he has to go. I 859 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: know I'm committed somewhere else, but I can't pass up 860 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: the opportunity to play for this guy. Like that's what 861 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: that's what type of hire it has to be, and 862 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean it it has to be. I mean it 863 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: has to be a big time, a big time higher 864 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: and it's look, man, we're sc We're gonna throw money 865 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: at you. I mean we understand that. I mean we're 866 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: here and some of j D because we live in proximity. 867 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to beat it, right because whoever, 868 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: whoever gets the gig, you're gonna live in Manhattan Beach. 869 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: You can get a ton of money. You're in a 870 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: I mean a prime for recruiting area. Um, you need quarterbacks. 871 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: Look at all the quarterbacks from southern California that are 872 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: starting at the top teams. I mean, I think we 873 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: named it. Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State, All South, carol quarterbacks. 874 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: Ole Miss might be the best of all. Oh Man 875 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: smokes d um, Yeah, Virginia, tack on and on and 876 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: on and on. They're everywhere. It's it's it's an interesting 877 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's such an interesting thing. Yeah, it's it's 878 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: a big time job. So I understand that they have 879 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: a lot of time to kind of vet it out 880 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: and see. But uh, there are a lot of people 881 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: that don't get paid. Oh. I tweeted that out. It's 882 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: a good day. It's a good day for college coaches. 883 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know. We we got a phone call. 884 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't recognize the number. It was a 885 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: three one. Oh it was do you know where that is? 886 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: Where's that? I didn't leave a message? Yeah, you know, anyways, 887 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 1: that's we probably went along on that. But I think 888 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: it is fascinating to see what they do. And I 889 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: do think you know, oregons Is got themselves rolling. They 890 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: need they need a sparring partner and that has to 891 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: be USC. And I'll tell you what if you know, 892 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: maybe maybe they wouldn't want to do it, and and 893 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: look at it as across town. I'd call Chip Kelly too, 894 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: because Chip Kelly would have more resources at SC than 895 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 1: he's ever had at U c l A. And here's 896 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: a difference. When you grew up in Southern California. Chips done, 897 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: he's done a night job. You're seeing it. It turned 898 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: now and they beat L s U and they're gonna 899 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: have a good year and he's really got that program 900 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 1: in solid footing. The USC football in Southern California in 901 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: the living room has a lot more Casher than U 902 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: c l A football. So USC football when you go 903 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: talk to parents and grandparents and aunts and uncles, they 904 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: grew up watching U c l A basketball and USC football. 905 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 1: It's just it's a different cache with those kids. Yeah, 906 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: it is a different cache. I mean you talked about 907 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: brand name stuff. You talk about the legacy and the tradition. 908 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: You think about all the Hosman Trophy winners that have 909 00:43:55,239 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: played the USC. You think about UM national champions national 910 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: championships when it's been big and because it has such 911 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: a long and storied history of being major going back 912 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: to the sixties. I mean, I can talk about the 913 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: John mccare, I can talk about John Robinson, I can 914 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: talk about what they did with Pete Carroll when they 915 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: brought it back. Um, there's something about it and DJ 916 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: like selfishly like when you go in there, and even 917 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 1: though I am a tar here for life, but when 918 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: you step in the Colisseum and they're playing when they're 919 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: good Man, when they're good, when they're playing the song 920 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,240 Speaker 1: and it's a hundred thousand people there and the Cardinal 921 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: and gold pomp pomps are going and Traveler is zipping 922 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: around the field, is different and there's something to that. 923 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: And so to me, I think it's it should be 924 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: an easy sale in terms of bringing it back. But 925 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: and saying that we've asked, we've seen coaches, we've had 926 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: a tough time kind of getting it going to the 927 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: level of expectation that uh their fan base and that 928 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 1: football people around the country would have see in the program. 929 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: Last thought on this, I know some people say, well, 930 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 1: it's like you know, Nebraska and uh Texas and like 931 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,280 Speaker 1: the expectations are too big, and I'm like, this is different. 932 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: This is you know, this is expectations are high, yes, 933 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: but in terms of what's at your disposal right here, 934 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: this is different. This is not Lincoln Nebraska trying to 935 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: recruit kids. You know that that's it's not it's not. 936 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 1: But I think, and speaking on Lincoln, Nebraska and Texas, 937 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: because Texas got Molly Wop Arkansas over the course of 938 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: the weekend, I think it's really important for all of 939 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: those brands to know exactly who they are. Uh. To me, 940 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: Nebraska fell apart when they got away from who they were, 941 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 1: when they decided to be oh, we're gonna pass it 942 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: around and we're gonna do something different than what Nebraska 943 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: had done for forty years being really good on about 944 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: Devaney and then Tom Osborne Texas Um dear al Roy. 945 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: They played a certain way. They were physical, they were 946 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: tough or whatever, and so I think you have to 947 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: have a clear understanding of who you are and how 948 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: you have to play, regardless of who the coaches. There 949 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: is a path of victory for all of these programs. 950 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: You know what it's We talked about it in pros. 951 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: I can close my eyes and I know when the 952 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,320 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens run out of the stadium. I know what 953 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: I'm going I'm know what I'm going to get. And 954 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 1: it's the same thing see and some of these Marquee programs, 955 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 1: and so if I'm sc not saying that sc shikapi Alabama, 956 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: but there should be an Alabama like feel to the 957 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: presence that I see when se runs onto the field. Yeah, 958 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: no doubt they hit. Alabama hit a home run and 959 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: they are still reaping the benefits of that all these 960 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,320 Speaker 1: years later. They ever fall off the machine, the machine 961 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: has been built. Um, all right, anything else you wanna 962 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: before we jump out of here, buck, I gotta get 963 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 1: to Chick fil A before they close for breakfast. I 964 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: get so many you gotta get to it. You getting 965 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: close to it now? This it man. So Thursday Thursdays 966 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: the next time we'll previums with games and just talk 967 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: about ball all over again. Appreciate you guys leaving us 968 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: a little rating and review there on Apple Podcasts. I 969 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: hope you guys are enjoying the video show by the 970 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: Way TV show The Great on Monday's three pm Eastern. 971 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: We had our first show this last week with a 972 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: lot of fun, so you can catch us there next 973 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 1: week as well, but we got another audio podtill then, 974 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,240 Speaker 1: so we'll see a Thursday right here on. Move the sticks, 975 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: do what you want. Don't talk that you thought to love, 976 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: got what you want. Don't talk that before to love.