WEBVTT - NEWS: Superman, Ironheart, and Murderbot 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.720 Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion and on Mesday Night 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:22.800 and welcome back to x Ray Vision of the podcast 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.240 where we dibut you to your favorite shows, movies, comics 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.600 of pop culture coming to you from My Heart podcast 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.720 will We'll bring you three episodes week every Tuesday, Thursday 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:31.280 and Friday. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:33.000 This is News. 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.720 In today's previously on news episode, we're catching up on 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.080 the biggest geek news of the week, as we always do, 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:41.640 and it is a busy week. 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:43.800 We got this new iron. 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:45.760 Heart, well the only iron Heart trailer that we've all 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.920 been waiting for, and a new trailer for Superman. Can't 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:51.520 wait for that looks fantastic. We'll also be talking about 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.840 a new addition to the day Level cast, which we'll 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:55.760 have Jessica Jones fans very excited. 0:00:56.160 --> 0:01:01.560 Let's get into new news. First up, the first official 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:08.759 full length Superman trailer has been released, and folks, it's great, 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.600 very very excited. 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.399 I big things that immediately stand out to me that 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:18.640 I loved. I adored the Lowis Clark chemistry. 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:22.440 I love that trailer relationships. 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:25.520 I know James Gunn must have been so happy when 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:29.040 those two sat down together, because that was some seriously 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.839 great stuff, and it was like, yeah, I mean super 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:36.240 produce of Common just said like she actually cried when 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.360 she watched the trailer, and it really does have that 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:42.520 kind of impactful emotional theft. I love the Clock and 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:46.840 Lowis stuff. I love that like Clark's like, yeah, I'll 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.560 let you interview me as Superman because he sees them 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:50.680 really as the same thing. 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.320 But he doesn't realize he says that to girlfriend Lewis. 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:57.760 But Lois Lane comes to thee she immediately locks into 0:01:57.840 --> 0:01:59.200 reporter and I love that. 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:00.880 I thought that was really cool. 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.000 We get so many big action sequences here, that big 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:07.840 Kaiju that we know James Gum was really excited to introduce. 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:12.080 We do get to see the engineer looking very scary 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.840 and definitely very villainess, which I think is interesting. Seems 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.320 like the Authority are going to be Lex's super team 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.240 in this one. Definitely get more Lex here. I feel 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.800 like it is channeling a more refined version of the 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.240 gene Hackman Lex, where he is kind of a dandy, 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:29.880 he is kind of eccentric. I loved it when he 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:33.920 was wearing that kind of all black snow coat. I'm 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:37.040 guessing because he'd been near the Fortress of Solitude. Interesting 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.680 other things to note. They are claiming that there's this 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:43.760 new character called the Hammer of Borovia that seems to 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.280 be an original creation. I would be interested to see 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:48.000 if that is the case, or if there's someone else 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.880 inside the mech. Also, there's a moment that the Internet 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:53.840 has been going crazy with, which is where we see 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:59.040 this character Ultraman, who has all black and he's taking prisoner. 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:04.520 There is a lot of questioning and interesting thoughts here 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.720 about whether or not under that suit and under that 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:14.560 mask is bizarro and to try and make a Superman 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:18.079 of his own. We get to see Sean gun here 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:23.760 as Maxwell Lord, which is like hilarious metamorphos some scary stuff. Also, 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.840 we get a super prison where I think we see 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.200 you know, some people are saying maybe it's Amethyst because 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.600 of the purple dress. I think it's probably Star Sapphire. 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.119 So I would say we're definitely gonna get to see. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.200 A lot of superheroes in this movie. 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.280 We get more Guy Gardner who looks great, Hawk Girl 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:44.200 looks great. Crypto punches the engineer in the face, which 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:49.200 I love. We all need more shaggy dog style dogs. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:50.560 Randomly punching people. 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:51.840 So I love that. 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.960 And yeah, I think that this reimagined score that they 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.280 have really gets you into that emotional feeling of Superman. 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.280 We'll tapping into the John Williams exactly DNA, which I 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:04.960 think is so important in nic. 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.640 And this movie comes out July eleventh, Like I think 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.440 this is gonna be a crazy summer for the Blockbusters 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.360 because if you'd have told me, you know, a couple 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.640 of years ago, oh, there's gonna be Fantastic four movie 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.040 or a Superman movie, I would think Fantastic Four was 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:23.520 going to decimate that movie because of the anticipation and waiting. 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.559 But now we're both we're getting very different kind of film. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:31.120 Tore Fantastic Four is definitely in that retro futuristic space. 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.120 It's connected to that heavier MCU law, which I think 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:34.800 is going to be. 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.839 You know, tough for some people. But after The Thunderbolts, 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:38.280 which was. 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.240 You know, a really good movie and had a lot 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.800 of great responses, I do think Marvel is back on it. 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.719 They're back at that peak again that people are excited about. 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.960 But this movie looks really special and it's very different 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.360 than anything James Gunn has done. Really so we could 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.160 be looking at a big, big summer at the blockbusters. 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:59.960 July is going to be crazy with Jurassic World, Fantastic Four, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.720 and Superman all in one month. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.440 It makes I just saw Friendship. Oh my gosh, it 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.880 makes me think of it makes me think of the 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:14.120 line's characters. Is where he goes, there's a new Marvel 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:18.119 coming out and we got it. We gotta see it. 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.800 I want to go see it, dude. 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.320 I was definitely attacked by that specific there's a new 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:30.760 Marvel coming out, we gotta go see and everyone's just like, no, 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.960 I don't want to go And I'm like, that's me, sorry, guys, 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:35.960 like that's me and Jason every day. 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:41.679 Up next in I would say, surprising trailer drop news, 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:48.760 surprising debut dates news. Ironheart trailer dropped this week and 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:53.920 it came with an announcement of the show's debut date, 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:55.520 which is June twenty fourth, which. 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:56.200 Is next month. 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.240 It feels like this snuck up on us. 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:03.320 There's literally in there was like a teaser and that 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:04.039 was it. 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.600 But like almost no promo. 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.839 I will say this, the power of the Internet. 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.640 I do feel like influenced this because there's been a 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:17.800 very vocal contingent of really great blood. Commenters being like, Hey, 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:19.240 where is the trailer for this? 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:19.600 Hey? 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:21.919 Are we getting any hype for this show? 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:22.320 Hey? 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.960 The good Thing is a lot of us had assumed it. 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.800 Was gonna be another The trailer's great, very kind of scary, 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:30.440 definitely a different. 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.679 Tone of reimagining of the hood. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.880 We're obviously gonna see that kind of like classic, almost 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:40.440 like a gangster movie quandary of like is it worth 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.960 doing bad things to help your community? That seems like 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.360 where we're going. It also seems like we're gonna get 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.559 to see re remaking her own kind of final suit, 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:51.760 maybe more akin to what we've seen in the comics. 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:54.599 Very spooky. 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.599 There's even like a kind of saw trap element with 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.760 the elevator in this. I thought it looked really interesting, 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.919 really good. I love Dominique Thorn and a good Thing and. 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:10.840 Making his ta you pre evil magic powers. 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.120 I think he's gonna get the magic powers kind of 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:17.520 maybe power broker style, we shall see, or he's maybe 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.880 like a sleight of hand magician. I was kind of 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:26.280 giving that vibee exactly, And David Blaine's already like spooky, 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:27.840 so I think it's like it would fit. 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:29.600 But something else that is good about this. 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.640 It's gonna be a three episode premiere drop, which is 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.400 nice because a lot of people were worried it was 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.120 going to be a full season drop like they did 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.080 with Echo or often then you don't get the same 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.280 promotional drive, you don't get the same interviews, you don't 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:42.640 get the same kind. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.760 Of focus on the story and in the conversation. So 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.920 I'm excited for that. I also have to say a rare, 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:50.480 you know, like a classic. 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.280 This is a very drill tweet, like you don't have 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.320 to give it to them, right, but but I do 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.080 have to give it to them here. I hate to 0:07:56.080 --> 0:08:00.200 give it to them. I really liked the promotional all 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.960 out for this. Once it started where you had Wilson, 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.120 you had Vincent Donofrio and Charlie Cox watching it and 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.840 getting really excited. You had Ryan Coogler, who is the 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:13.000 producer on this show, talking about Reread, talking about her impact. 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:17.080 I felt like, once you had those creatives and colleagues 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:20.880 of Dominique and the show in that space promoting it, 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:25.200 I thought that was a really cool way of showcasing 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.600 the trailer and kind of getting people's eyes on it. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.560 I'm hoping this is going to be a sleeper hit 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:30.800 and I'm very excited. 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:35.360 Up next in great news, Kristin Ritter to dust off 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.960 the Jessica Jones leather jacket for Darrinel. 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:39.520 Jason. 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:44.959 Finally the Defenders are coming. We've got to one of 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:49.520 two six of the defenders. Wow, I mean, bring Luke 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:51.680 back for sure, Bring. 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.840 Luke back, dep and I think you know what, I've 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:58.200 seen him. He's out here and Sigourney Weaver brings yes, please, 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.920 that would be incredible also as well. I you know 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.280 he's been asking for another chance. Danny rand like, I 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.600 think let's let him let him one, let him train 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:08.640 for longer than two weeks. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:12.400 Two yes, let him then hand it off to a 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.760 different iron fist. It is a manager. 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.520 We've said this, and this has been my take. Make 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.920 make that part of the conversation. Actually he is he 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.360 worthy of this? What does he have to live up to? 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:26.800 Is it? Should it be him? 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.160 Should it be him? Have him struggle with that, Put 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.200 that on the screen. That would make for great storytelling. 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:33.640 Yeah, exactly opinion. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.320 And this was released, This news released at Disney's upfronts. 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.240 They had Kristin Ritta there. She said, it's so great 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.640 to be back, returning to Jessica after three seasons and 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:46.120 the Defenders and now joining the MCU proper, which I 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.840 found to be a very interesting specification seeing as those 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:50.840 shows were technically originally meant to. 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:51.800 Be part of the MCU. 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:53.920 As she said, I'm so excited to bring back this 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.199 iconic character, and without giving too much away, there is 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:57.800 much more in store for Jessica Jones. 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.280 This is going to be an incredible season. 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:00.160 I love it. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:04.120 The PI nature of Jessica Jones is great. I would 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.240 also love to see that kind. 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:07.559 Of her working at the firm. 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:08.959 Get her working at the firm also as well. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:13.200 I want to see that MCEU recalibration of like, what 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:18.559 does a PI edgy, dark, violent, shut character like Jessica, 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.760 How does she fit into the MCU. I think that's 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.680 gonna be really fun. Obviously, we know she will not 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.600 be able to say no to Matt. That's just the 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:30.160 rules of all of these shows. So yeah, I know, 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:35.599 here we go again, but yeah, fun times. Not fully surprised, 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:39.240 But let's see if we keep hearing more about this, 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.199 and if so, let's make sure that we're also bringing 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.679 back Jessica Henwick as Colleen Wing. I would love to 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.080 see some Daughters of a Dragon stuff bring back Misty too, 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.280 fuck it. And if not, then let's have Jessica come 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.120 back and let her be I am fisted, because that's 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:53.840 what they always should have done. It's right there for 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:55.240 you guys, it's ready. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:59.640 And then finally HBO has read or I should say, 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:04.600 let's put it this way, Discovery Discovery, Warner Brothers, Discovery 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:09.560 has rebranded HBO as HBO again, and it's in other words, 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.640 what was Max is now HBO Max. 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.680 I guess what we were all already already calling it 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:16.400 HBO Max. 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.319 So for us it is not really a big deal. 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.960 Yes, for everybody really, for everybody really, but I will 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:25.160 say it is if you are an industry watcher and 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.160 you like to you've been. You know, we talk about 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.600 David Zaslav, we talk about what's going on with Warner Brothers, 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:29.880 and we. 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.120 Must let's give him his flowers for Sinners and for Minecraft, 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:34.600 you know, because they're making money. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:35.400 They're making money. 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:37.840 And I would say letting Michael de Luca and Pam 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:41.360 Abdy do their thing is clearly working in the movie range. Obviously, 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.600 Superman if that's a billion dollar movie. It's gonna be 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.960 looking good. But the change back to HBO, the recognition 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:52.240 of the HBO brand, that probably tells you how they're 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.200 feeling right now at Warner Brothers. They want to be 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.719 prestigious again. The Discovery aspect is not necessarily working on 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.240 in the same way. They kind of just pump out 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.040 reality TV content that Zazlav is known for. I think 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.360 they want to bring it back to the classic idea 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.560 of HBO. This is very silly, but I will say 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.559 I did love the way that it. 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.160 Was rolled out on all the Max Social stuff. I 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:13.559 think that. 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:18.119 Even though they were obviously very self referential, very meta, 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.520 and it also did feel kind of pointed, like I 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:24.400 think that everyone who put those together enjoyed putting them together, 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:28.199 the one with the from Euphoria and it was like, bitch, 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:28.959 you better. 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:30.000 Be kidding, like you bet. 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:36.960 That certainly supports the This certainly supports the notion that 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:42.640 there's going to be a sale exactly WBD properties over time, 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:46.120 that they're maybe going to build around HBO Max keep 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.480 that and spin off Discovery or else. 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.800 If this is as the theories have long been. 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.480 Going, I think this should be twenty twenty five should 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:58.520 be the year when zaz Lab has owned Warner Brothers 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.440 long enough that he could sell it or begin the 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.120 conversations with the sale, so that could also. 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:05.480 Be part of it. 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.800 Also, this could just be Shenanigan's because do you know 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.240 how much money they must have spent rebranding to max 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.559 millions of dollars and now they're going to spend millions 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:12.880 of doll. 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:17.840 They just. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:22.160 Is not hard but yeah, hilarious, silly, and everyone in 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.920 the discord was loving those memes, so all good. 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.560 Up next after the ad break, stay tuned for our 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.200 exclusive vineyary with the show Nurners and cast of Apple 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:32.800 TV's Murder Bar. 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:51.800 Yeah, and now our exclusive interview with showrunners Paul and 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.280 Chris Whites of Apple TV Plus's Murder Bot. And we've 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.400 also got a little chat with some of the cast 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.400 Sabrina Wu and Tatiana Jones. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.360 Hellok, you so much? How's it gone? 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:03.640 Thanks? 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:03.960 Are you? 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:04.360 Yeah? 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:04.720 Good? 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.800 Thank you? I really loved the show, so I appreciate 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.040 you guys taking time talk to me today. Thank you. 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:11.800 We appreciate you're taking time to watch it. 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:15.280 Yeah, yeah, I thought it was just the delightful so 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.240 I was. I love the books, so I was primed 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.880 for a success, but I did really think the cast 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:25.160 and the kind of world you created is something very special. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:26.360 Thank you. 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:27.200 Yes. 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.960 Something that kind of immediately spoke to me about it 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.960 is that we don't often get a lot of kind 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:39.080 of science fiction that is in the more optimistic space. 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:43.600 We often are focused on the wars or the dystopias 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.080 or the futures that have gone wrong. So could you 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:50.400 talk a little bit about building a world, and especially 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.640 obviously with the crew and the world therefrom that looks 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.640 at science fiction in a bit of a different way. 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.560 Yeah, I don't think that Martha's World sort of discounts 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.560 all those things that are part of dystopian universes in 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.680 other movies and books. But it's kind of also dealing 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:10.040 with the fact that, you know, one thinks of it 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.320 as the human spirit, but really spirit of personality is 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.600 like a cockroach is going to keep existing no matter 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:20.200 what radioactive forces of crap are it's exposed to. And 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:26.520 so to me, like, she's an amazing she's amazing at 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:32.040 writing characters, full bodied characters, sort of primarily with murder Bot. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:36.200 Yeah, and what was it like to then try and 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:41.360 bring that character to the screen because that is a 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:46.400 very complex kind of conflict that you have to bring 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.640 because obviously the books are from Mortibot's perspective, and also 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.120 we know that Motibo is hacked, but the crew don't, 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.120 but they would probably love to know that, you know, 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.120 early on. That's kind of more what they would envision. 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.240 So could you talk a little bit about balancing that. 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.680 Yeah, it's really tricky to adapt to a first person 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.960 narrated book, especially one that's with a character as complex 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.400 as this one, and we genuinely mean that it's not 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:13.640 just a great science fiction character, but kind of a 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:18.200 great literary character. We had some experience doing it when 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:25.040 we adapted About a Boy Nick Hornsby's book, and the 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.400 trick is is how to time the voiceover and how 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:32.280 to deploy the voiceover the sort of the inner monologue 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.760 without it being too much or too little, without over explaining, 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:42.160 without resorting to it for for plot purposes. So finding 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.560 that balance is really tricky, and that takes a lot 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.800 of time with in this case with Alexander, in terms 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.640 of getting getting that right, getting the you know, the 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.480 humor of the book, but also adding something to it 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:55.160 as well. 0:16:55.480 --> 0:17:00.440 And also kind of keeping the tension going throughout having 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:06.480 murder about not become cuddly ever, because there's something adorable about, 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.000 you know, a character who is thinking horrible things of 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:15.440 itself and of everybody around them on some level. But 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:19.320 Alexander was really helpful in terms of that, in terms 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:24.320 of really playing not showing its cards. I think that 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:28.600 Alexander's confidence in terms of no, I'm going to be 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:32.359 able to what one felt with Alexander is okay, this 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.600 is still going to be interesting even if we're not 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:40.680 showing too much and the other also having the other 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.679 actors is so important and treating those other characters as 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:48.600 if they're real people. Meaning that the book is very 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.320 spare and implies a lot, It doesn't say much about 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.560 why Garrathin is the way that Grathin is. Why Garrathin 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.439 is so suspicious of murder Bot so kind of and 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:59.840 instead of being like, oh, Gratham's a jerk, it's no. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.680 Gratham loves these people, has had things fall apart, has 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.360 had horrible things happen in his life, and that's why 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:10.760 he's being so so suspicious of murder Bot. And Gratham 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:16.879 knows how crappy corporate culture is whereas these people don't 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:21.680 like they've been living outside of the system and they 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:26.800 think that love will prevail. But yeah, it's it's having 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.119 fun with it without thinking that you're smarter than the author. 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.320 Well, you and you mentioned kind of building that crew 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.720 around Alex and what was it like putting that together, 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:37.879 because I do think, you know, you talked about like 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:41.520 the spirit of personality, like this is a crew that 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:45.760 has so many different voices and so many different kind 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:49.800 of lived experiences and then also adds so much to 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:53.639 the story because I think something that really kind of 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:57.200 sings about this work is the way you represent what 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:00.359 relationships might look like in the future and how to 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.399 connect what's going on now and the kind of younger 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:05.919 generation the way they're looking at relationships and how that 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.200 could become the norm. So could you talk a little 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:12.400 bit about building the crew and kind of making sure 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.120 you were getting that balance of personalities. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.399 Yeah, Well, it's very hard to go about in a 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:22.800 systematic way. I think that we sort of wanted to 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:26.480 take in what was being shown to us in terms 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.320 of auditions and in terms of what we could see 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.480 of other people's work, and it was just about what 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:38.119 felt right in combination. You know, the books and the 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.280 show don't really rely much on sort of trumped up 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:45.119 conflict between characters. You know, they do have difficulties with 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:46.920 each other, and there are kind of ins and outs 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.920 of relationships, but they're mostly people who care about one another, 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:51.960 and that's kind of interesting in and of itself. So 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:56.639 then assembling a cast is kind of figuring out just 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.240 the vibe that people are going to have with one another. 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:03.240 Weirdly, I was thinking about the Peanuts characters a lot 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.880 like Peanuts I love, and how like without doing much 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:10.080 you immediately know like no line of linuses could be 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:14.320 a line of Lucy's, and pig Pen is completely different 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:17.040 from Franklin, from Snoopy, et cetera. 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:20.560 Yeah, there's even like a shot of their dancing together. 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:24.119 Oh yeah, and each of them has like it's like 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:30.840 a Peanuts to take this way too far, Like to me, 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:35.119 like murder Baugh was a combination of Charlie Brown and 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:38.040 Snoopy because like Snoopy can do superhuman things and Charlie 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:39.360 Brown is subject to depression. 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:43.760 But yeah, Weirdly, there's also you know Winnie the Pooh 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:46.400 as well, Like the way that those characters are are 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:48.600 distinguished from from one another very. 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:51.920 Ee or he can have very eloficial. I love the 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:56.199 Snoopy Charlie Brown combo because I definitely, you know, I 0:20:56.240 --> 0:21:01.320 think about the The Great Pumpkin and an episode could 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:03.920 very much be the crews trying to do something. They're 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:07.600 going on a mission, and Murdible is absolutely like flying 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:09.520 a plane around in his brain. 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:11.320 Just like paying attention. 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:16.160 I can definitely what was it like to then kind 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.640 of get to the point where you're making the show 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.400 and start to really see like, oh, this is right, 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.760