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Speaker 1: Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion and on Mesday Night

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to x Ray Vision of the podcast

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Speaker 1: where we dibut you to your favorite shows, movies, comics

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Speaker 1: of pop culture coming to you from My Heart podcast

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Speaker 1: will We'll bring you three episodes week every Tuesday, Thursday

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Speaker 1: and Friday.

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Speaker 2: This is News.

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Speaker 3: In today's previously on news episode, we're catching up on

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Speaker 3: the biggest geek news of the week, as we always do,

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Speaker 3: and it is a busy week.

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Speaker 2: We got this new iron.

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Speaker 3: Heart, well the only iron Heart trailer that we've all

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Speaker 3: been waiting for, and a new trailer for Superman. Can't

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Speaker 3: wait for that looks fantastic. We'll also be talking about

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Speaker 3: a new addition to the day Level cast, which we'll

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Speaker 3: have Jessica Jones fans very excited.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into new news. First up, the first official

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Speaker 1: full length Superman trailer has been released, and folks, it's great,

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Speaker 1: very very excited.

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Speaker 3: I big things that immediately stand out to me that

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Speaker 3: I loved. I adored the Lowis Clark chemistry.

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Speaker 1: I love that trailer relationships.

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Speaker 3: I know James Gunn must have been so happy when

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Speaker 3: those two sat down together, because that was some seriously

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Speaker 3: great stuff, and it was like, yeah, I mean super

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Speaker 3: produce of Common just said like she actually cried when

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Speaker 3: she watched the trailer, and it really does have that

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Speaker 3: kind of impactful emotional theft. I love the Clock and

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Speaker 3: Lowis stuff. I love that like Clark's like, yeah, I'll

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Speaker 3: let you interview me as Superman because he sees them

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Speaker 2: But he doesn't realize he says that to girlfriend Lewis.

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Speaker 3: But Lois Lane comes to thee she immediately locks into

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Speaker 3: reporter and I love that.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was really cool.

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Speaker 3: We get so many big action sequences here, that big

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Speaker 3: Kaiju that we know James Gum was really excited to introduce.

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Speaker 3: We do get to see the engineer looking very scary

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Speaker 3: and definitely very villainess, which I think is interesting. Seems

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Speaker 3: like the Authority are going to be Lex's super team

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Speaker 3: guessing because he'd been near the Fortress of Solitude. Interesting

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Speaker 3: other things to note. They are claiming that there's this

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Speaker 3: if that is the case, or if there's someone else

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Speaker 3: inside the mech. Also, there's a moment that the Internet

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Speaker 3: this character Ultraman, who has all black and he's taking prisoner.

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Speaker 3: There is a lot of questioning and interesting thoughts here

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Speaker 3: about whether or not under that suit and under that

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Speaker 3: of his own. We get to see Sean gun here

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Speaker 3: you know, some people are saying maybe it's Amethyst because

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Speaker 3: So I would say we're definitely gonna get to see.

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Speaker 2: A lot of superheroes in this movie.

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Speaker 3: We get more Guy Gardner who looks great, Hawk Girl

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Speaker 3: looks great. Crypto punches the engineer in the face, which

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Speaker 3: I love. We all need more shaggy dog style dogs.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I think that this reimagined score that they

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Speaker 1: We'll tapping into the John Williams exactly DNA, which I

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Speaker 3: And this movie comes out July eleventh, Like I think

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Speaker 3: this is gonna be a crazy summer for the Blockbusters

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Speaker 3: of years ago, oh, there's gonna be Fantastic four movie

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Speaker 3: But now we're both we're getting very different kind of film.

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Speaker 2: You know, tough for some people. But after The Thunderbolts,

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Speaker 3: July is going to be crazy with Jurassic World, Fantastic Four,

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Speaker 1: It makes I just saw Friendship. Oh my gosh, it

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Speaker 1: coming out and we got it. We gotta see it.

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Speaker 2: I want to go see it, dude.

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Speaker 3: I was definitely attacked by that specific there's a new

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Speaker 1: Up next in I would say, surprising trailer drop news,

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Speaker 1: it came with an announcement of the show's debut date,

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Speaker 1: which is June twenty fourth, which.

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Speaker 1: It feels like this snuck up on us.

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Speaker 3: There's literally in there was like a teaser and that

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Speaker 2: The good Thing is a lot of us had assumed it.

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Speaker 3: We're obviously gonna see that kind of like classic, almost

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Speaker 3: This is a very drill tweet, like you don't have

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping this is going to be a sleeper hit

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Speaker 2: and I'm very excited.

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Speaker 1: Up next in great news, Kristin Ritter to dust off

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Speaker 1: the Jessica Jones leather jacket for Darrinel.

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Speaker 1: Finally the Defenders are coming. We've got to one of

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Speaker 1: two six of the defenders. Wow, I mean, bring Luke

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Speaker 3: Luke back, dep and I think you know what, I've

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Speaker 3: seen him. He's out here and Sigourney Weaver brings yes, please,

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Speaker 3: he's been asking for another chance. Danny rand like, I

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Speaker 2: Two yes, let him then hand it off to a

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Speaker 2: different iron fist. It is a manager.

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Speaker 1: make that part of the conversation. Actually he is he

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Speaker 1: Should it be him? Have him struggle with that, Put

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Speaker 3: And this was released, This news released at Disney's upfronts.

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Speaker 3: They had Kristin Ritta there. She said, it's so great

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Speaker 2: Be part of the MCU.

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Speaker 3: As she said, I'm so excited to bring back this

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Speaker 2: This is going to be an incredible season.

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Speaker 3: The PI nature of Jessica Jones is great. I would

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Speaker 1: Of her working at the firm.

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Speaker 3: does a PI edgy, dark, violent, shut character like Jessica,

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Speaker 3: How does she fit into the MCU. I think that's

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Speaker 3: But let's see if we keep hearing more about this,

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Speaker 3: back Jessica Henwick as Colleen Wing. I would love to

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Speaker 3: see some Daughters of a Dragon stuff bring back Misty too,

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Speaker 3: fuck it. And if not, then let's have Jessica come

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Speaker 3: back and let her be I am fisted, because that's

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Speaker 3: what they always should have done. It's right there for

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Speaker 3: you guys, it's ready.

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Speaker 1: And then finally HBO has read or I should say,

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Speaker 7: it's not I mean, you know, I'm a parent, and

443
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 7: like I'm supposed to hate everything on Instagram and TikTok

444
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 7: and screen time and all that stuff, but I also

445
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 7: understand that the appeal of escapism as well. Yeah, you know,

446
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 7: I think in a larger sense our show, that the

447
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 7: show outside of the show is aimed to be entertaining

448
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 7: and heartfelt and fun, as well as having things to

449
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 7: say about you know, AI and all these kind of

450
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 7: dystopian tendons season our culture right now, that it's okay

451
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 7: to for things to be fun and for colors to

452
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 7: be bright, and to enjoy watching things as an escape.

453
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's one of the things that is

454
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: gonna you know, it's in the books obviously, but I

455
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 3: think for people who haven't interacted with Murder but before

456
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: on any level, I think it's going to be one

457
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: of the things that makes that what feel so human,

458
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: you know it is, It's the big relatable thing is like,

459
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 3: this is someone who chooses with the extra time that

460
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 3: they have, the freedom they have that like, I just

461
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 3: need to escape the reality I'm in, So let me

462
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 3: sit here and just watch other people, you know, living

463
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 3: these adventures.

464
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Alex really loved the idea that murder Butt may

465
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 7: have big ideas about going off and having adventures in space,

466
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 7: but really, when it comes down to it, it just

467
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 7: wants to watch TV.

468
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, what do you do if you can if

469
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 9: you now can make choices, Well, you might imagine that

470
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 9: you're going to go be a hero somewhere, but you're

471
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 9: probably going to want to tune into your favorite show.

472
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's I think that there is evam Like

473
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: you were saying, there's a lot of relevancy in this.

474
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 3: But I do think that feeling of like what do

475
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 3: you do when things are really scary and you're offered

476
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 3: up a question of like what do you do next?

477
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: There's a lot of us are just like okay, well,

478
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 3: you know, for me, I'm like, let me put on

479
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 3: murder She wrote, first, just work out regulate my nervous system.

480
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Speaker 9: It's weirdly saying that David Lynch is saying that David

481
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 9: Lynch got Actually like, because I'm looking at you know,

482
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 9: if you pluck out like ten seconds of a lot

483
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 9: of David Lynch movies, you could put it into a telenovela.

484
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And speaking of you know that

485
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: kind of relevancy, obviously, we are living in an age

486
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 3: and I'm sure it would like, you know, a year ago,

487
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: when you're you're shooting this, it's still a conversation. But

488
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 3: now we're having that conversation more than ever about AI

489
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 3: and robots and the way that we treat them and stuff.

490
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Speaker 8: And I think murder Bot.

491
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Speaker 3: Is a very nuanced representation of that because I love

492
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: that it doesn't come out and say, hey, this is

493
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: a good way for things to be completely It's very

494
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: much in that gray space. And what I really love

495
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: is more about how we treat robots, or how we

496
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 3: treat sentient life, or how we treat people who are

497
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Speaker 3: like othered and seen as less in humans. So could

498
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Speaker 3: you kind of talk a little bit about that and

499
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 3: how it feels now the show's coming out For it

500
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: to be kind of more of a relevant talking point

501
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 3: than most people who've probably ever made a sci fi

502
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: have kind of not caught up at that point.

503
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I mean I think we're looking at the

504
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 7: possibility of AGI in the next couple of years, so

505
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 7: it actually is really timely. I read this article by

506
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 7: Ted Chang about I think it was a podcast interview.

507
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 7: Actually he was less worried about what AI was going

508
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 7: to do to us than what we're going to do

509
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 7: to AI in terms of how we treat, you know,

510
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 7: other sentient creatures, and.

511
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Speaker 9: I also talk also it's about how we're going to

512
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 9: shoot other humans as well, because there are all sorts

513
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 9: of characteristics that make people want to dh minize other

514
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 9: humans and make them look at not that them is

515
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 9: less than people. So I think sort of like shifting

516
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 9: over the paradigm because okay, so you know, we're animals,

517
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 9: and I think that we still have one foot in

518
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 9: wanting to be the alpha, for instance, in a pack,

519
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 9: which is in larger social constructs really destructive. I think

520
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 9: that it's an open question not only like sort of

521
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 9: how much humanity does artificial intelligence have or what we

522
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 9: think of as humanity, which to me, the great thing

523
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 9: about This is like a sense of humor is a

524
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 9: core facet of personhood and that doesn't have to do

525
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 9: with being human or being artificial intelligence doesn't have to

526
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 9: do with being neurotypical or neuroatypical or any other number

527
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 9: of other things. It has to do with something that's

528
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 9: more irreducible. But I think that these are happening at

529
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 9: the same time. It's really weird because it is like,

530
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 9: you know, the tie, It kind of comes in and

531
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 9: goes out. But like the questions about artificial intelligence and

532
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 9: how to grapple with it are coming at the same

533
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 9: exact time as questions about about diversity, and uh, we're

534
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 9: going to be able to encompass all sorts of different

535
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 9: people and deal with them as as as fully as

536
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 9: fully rendered people in our heads, no matter where you're

537
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 9: coming from.

538
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you guys so much. I could talk about

539
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: the show all day. Congrats on the show, Thank.

540
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 4: You, and have a lovely day.

541
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Speaker 7: Thanks, thanks, thank you, thank you so much.

542
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 5: Thanks a great day.

543
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 8: Thanks Hi Rosie.

544
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: How you guys do? Yeah, thank you so much for

545
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: taking the time to talk to me today. I just

546
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 3: absolutely loved the show. I thought it was wonderful, something

547
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: that I feel like we don't often see is kind

548
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: of comedy in science fiction and science fiction that is

549
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: a little bit more optimistic or hopeful. It's often very dystopian. Sabrina,

550
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: what was it like for you going into the show,

551
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: kind of getting ready for a sort of sci fi

552
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: space that we haven't really seen before, preparing for a

553
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: new version of sci fi.

554
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Speaker 11: Yeah, so, I mean I come from a comedy background,

555
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 11: so in some ways I was like, I can't believe

556
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 11: this gets to happen. It's a really I was like

557
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 11: begging agents. I was like please, because I love like

558
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 11: anime and genre stuff. I was like, if I get

559
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 11: to do something where I get to shoot.

560
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 4: A gun, that would be awesome. So I was very excited.

561
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Speaker 11: But it was definitely an adjustment to be honest set

562
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 11: where like you know where it's like sometimes it's very dramatic,

563
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 11: sometimes it's funny, And I used to only gauge how

564
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 11: well I was doing off of how funny I was,

565
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 11: And sometimes you know, when you're sci fi show like

566
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 11: it really for it's like it's an acting challenge, Like

567
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 11: there is a guy holding a poll with a tennis

568
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 11: ball and you're supposed to act like that is like

569
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 11: a giant twenty foot like more monster and not laugh

570
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 11: and not make a joke about it, And that was

571
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 11: that was tough, or or even just like the earnestness

572
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 11: of our characters.

573
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Speaker 4: Sometimes I was like I was having like I was like,

574
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: am I cringe?

575
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 11: And then I'd be like, but I'm supposed to be

576
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 11: cringe and that's the whole point, and I'm supposed to

577
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 11: be so vulnerable. And I mean it was all that

578
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 11: kind of tensions that we got to play. But yeah,

579
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Speaker 11: I mean it was so fine and a really great challenge.

580
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was fun watching you meld those characters.

581
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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't You'll have to say this, but

582
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 6: I don't think Pinley is that far off from you.

583
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 8: Think you share many same characteristics.

584
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Speaker 4: That's completely fall.

585
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: Don't blow up my spot.

586
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I take it all back. I took it off back.

587
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Speaker 4: What was tato?

588
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Speaker 3: What was it like for you to kind of have

589
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: that find that balance between the drummer and the comedy

590
00:30:59,320 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: of the show.

591
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 6: I I so, I have to admit, I mean I've

592
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 6: told Sad this before, but I was a fan of

593
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 6: Sabs beforehand. So when I found out that this was

594
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 6: going to dance, that line of drama and comedy, this

595
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 6: sort of sci fi thriller comedic new thing that we've created.

596
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 8: And that I was going to get to do that

597
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 8: with sab I was just like, just don't mess it up,

598
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 8: Just don't mess it up.

599
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 6: And I just had so much fun doing that. And

600
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 6: then when I got to do it on the day,

601
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, yeah, I.

602
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 11: Love working with Tatya and like really just like such

603
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 11: a seasoned, amazing actor who like like made some of

604
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 11: like the hardest, like you know, like because there's a

605
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 11: lot of vulnerability in love between us, and I just

606
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 11: feel like Tatia I knew, we just really knew what

607
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 11: she was doing and like created like just helped create

608
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 11: like a sense of like intimacy.

609
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Speaker 4: I don't know if I would have been able to

610
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 4: do by myself.

611
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: I love it. I love that. And also I was

612
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: gonna say, the general vibe of like a romance that

613
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: we see in a science fiction like you know, Star

614
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: Wars or something is like very tropey and the same

615
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: in every version. The version we yet to see of

616
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: love and romance here is completely different. So could you

617
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: also talk a little bit about kind of exploring that

618
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: and envisioning a different version of romance for the future.

619
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: Sabrina'll start with you again.

620
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 4: Oh sure, sure.

621
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Speaker 11: I mean there's some of the classic in it where

622
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 11: it's just like you know, like I like Pinley feels

623
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 11: really protective of Aurana, like you know, our life is

624
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 11: on the line. But yeah, there are parts of it

625
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 11: that you're like, oh, I didn't expect that, just like

626
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 11: there's like marital like there's a little bit of like

627
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 11: I sort of sometimes I felt like, oh, we're like

628
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 11: we have old married people problems and we love each other,

629
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 11: but we can't seem to totally be on the same

630
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 11: page about like what we want we're looking for us

631
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 11: I think just in general, like our story where we're

632
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 11: kind of trying to expand our relationship is really a

633
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 11: specific to the show. And like, as somebody who has

634
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 11: been in like poly setups, I was like, oh yeah,

635
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 11: I felt this big time, you know, like I felt

636
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 11: just like so real and true to some of the

637
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 11: dynamics you know that happen in our current you know

638
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 11: Earth setup and it's cool to see it in space.

639
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 6: I guess, yeah, that's how I felt that it was.

640
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 8: I felt like we got to.

641
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 6: Do this thing that was supposed to be in the future,

642
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 6: but that it was actually more of love like.

643
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 8: We know it today, where there is communication.

644
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 6: I hope love in the future has I don't know,

645
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 6: maybe more communication if I wish anything for Pinley and Errata.

646
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 8: I'm watching them and I'm going.

647
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 6: Maybe you should communicate better. Maybe, But I don't know

648
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 6: about I don't know about the future. I felt like

649
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 6: it was a really beautiful example of how we navigate

650
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 6: love today and how people are willing to do that today,

651
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 6: and that it's not something that's coming, it's something that's

652
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 6: here now, and that's what we're working on making better

653
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 6: for the future.

654
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. I feel like a lot of

655
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: the show is about kind of making things beat for

656
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: the future, especially in the times of the crew. And

657
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: obviously it feels very relevant right now to be considering

658
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: how we treat kind of robots and AI and technology.

659
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: So how does it feel to be talking about a

660
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: show that really seems to be at the forefront of

661
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Speaker 3: that conversation when it probably when you were making the show,

662
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Speaker 3: we did not know we would be in a kind

663
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Speaker 3: of AI taking over the world kind of being the

664
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: main part of the conversation as it is. Now, what

665
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 3: was it like to kind of explore that aspect of

666
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: kind of sentient life? And how do we treat a

667
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: robot that is meant to, you know, help us, or

668
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: in this case is essentially like an indentured servant. What

669
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 3: was that kind of did How does it feel now

670
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: that everything is so relevant to the real world as well?

671
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Speaker 8: Tatiana, I don't think. I don't think there's any difference.

672
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 6: This is my own opinion, but I don't think that

673
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 6: there's any difference, and I'm definitely erring on the side

674
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 6: of being a better human being. So why not treat

675
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 6: everything outside of myself, including myself, with a form of respect.

676
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 6: I think history has proven to us that the opposite

677
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 6: does not work and is.

678
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 8: Not sustainable in any way, shape or form.

679
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 6: And so the way that this show particularly examines that

680
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 6: in the sort of human and then humanish robotish dynamic,

681
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 6: I think really serves to highlight asking ourselves those questions.

682
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 8: How am I treating myself?

683
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 6: How am I treating the beings, be them sentient or

684
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 6: non sentient outside of myself?

685
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 8: How can I work on that a little bit better?

686
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 8: I know Saba.

687
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 6: Saba is always teasing me because I two am one

688
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 6: who will go on chat GPT and talk to it

689
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 6: like a person.

690
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 8: But that could just be me and the way that

691
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 8: I use the internet.

692
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 11: But yeah, I'm very afraid of it. I'm like, stay

693
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 11: from chat GPT. Obviously it would be very nice to

694
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 11: chat GBT. But like, but I think actually one of

695
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Speaker 11: the I felt like when we filmed it a year ago,

696
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 11: I was already like, oh, man, AI is a really

697
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 11: big conversation, and like, one thing I like about the

698
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 11: show is I don't think it takes this stance that like, oh,

699
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 11: you know, AI is just like a like it's a

700
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 11: good thing objectively, Like I think like I think the

701
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 11: show actually correctly points out that, like we need to

702
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 11: be really wary of like companies and like what their

703
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 11: motives are. And I think like the show is pushing forward.

704
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 11: If there's any messaging the show is really pushing forward,

705
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 11: it's that like we need to have a lot of

706
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 11: compassion for people and anything you know that might even

707
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 11: resemble people or or things that were like people that

708
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 11: you know, society has deemed non people, which I think

709
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 11: is like really really relevant to you know today, And

710
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 11: I was like, oh, thank god, because I was not.

711
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Speaker 4: Ready to take a pro AI stance personally, I make I.

712
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: Make comic books too, So yes, no, it's a it's

713
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: a very complex space, and I'm definitely on the deafitly

714
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: on the fence about it too. But in the same way,

715
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Speaker 3: even though I'm not a cha GTP user, if i

716
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: see one of those little like delivery robots that drive

717
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: around LA delivering people food, I'm always like, oh, my friend,

718
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: like my cute, my cute guy just on his way

719
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Speaker 3: to work.

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Speaker 8: I do that too.

721
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Speaker 4: I literally was like worried that my room but was

722
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: working too hard.

723
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 3: I was like, you need to change, my friend, please rest.

724
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Speaker 3: We just love little guys.

725
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 8: Just a little guy like and I.

726
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 4: Kind of love I love my little guys and identifies

727
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 4: a little guy.

728
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: Identify as a little guy.

729
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 4: I felt it. I was like, I felt that.

730
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Speaker 3: You could send the little guy and finger on me.

731
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a little guy. That's a little guy, right.

732
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Speaker 3: I do love that in this version of our kind

733
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Speaker 3: of futurist society, the little guy that we are kind

734
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: of falling for is not like a cute you know,

735
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 3: your average little guy kind of robot way or like

736
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: I love this, it's like a scary kind of corporate

737
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 3: being that's broken out from that and is then in

738
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: this kind of really fun to watch battle with itself

739
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 3: of like how much can I trust these humans to

740
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Speaker 3: let them know that I'm actually freer than I am?

741
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Speaker 3: So what was the kind of journey like of getting

742
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 3: to know, you know, sec unit and getting to kind

743
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: of balance that we just want to like work with them,

744
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: you see, such a good guy and kind of that

745
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 3: duality of what Alex has to do by kind of

746
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 3: keeping part of him to himself. That's the hones, sorry,

747
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: seeing as we were a little guying so hard.

748
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Speaker 6: Always we're holding space for a little guy.

749
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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 8: That's that really is shown throughout the series. I think,

751
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 8: and it came it's in the writing.

752
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 6: What Alex brought to this character is really really, really special,

753
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 6: and so we were able to organically explore these things

754
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 6: that that came out that were essentially like what is

755
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 6: our reaction to something like this and to having somebody

756
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 6: like Alex, who is so talented, so kind, so lovely,

757
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 6: such a great leader. To have somebody like that embody

758
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 6: this character, it really I don't know, it was really

759
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 6: like no acting required because then I have to ask

760
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 6: myself all of these questions in myself and then run

761
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 6: that through Arata's you know, vessel and all of that stuff.

762
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 6: So it was it was a real joy to have

763
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 6: to do both, to have to discover for Arata and

764
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 6: then have Arata highlight certain things for Tatiana that I

765
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 6: got to go, oh, yeah, I need to think about that.

766
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 6: I'm not quite sure about that, or maybe I need

767
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 6: to go away. And so I hope that when people

768
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 6: watch it they will have that same response, that they

769
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 6: will ask themselves those same questions and be interested in

770
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 6: that same way and go, oh I thought I knew

771
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 6: how I felt, but maybe I don't, and like, oh,

772
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 6: I'm okay with it if it's this way, but not

773
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 6: if it's that way, and why is that? And yeah,

774
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Speaker 6: I think the show does a beautiful job of sparking

775
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Speaker 6: those questions.

776
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Speaker 3: And you mentioned Sabrina that you love anime, you love genre,

777
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: So was there anything that when you got this job

778
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,479
Speaker 3: you immediately went back and watched and were like, these

779
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: are the kind of sci fi stories I love. Like,

780
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 3: did you go back and watch Cowboy Bebop?

781
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Speaker 12: And you were like, oh, I need to have a

782
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 12: rag tag crew of cool space people or was there

783
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 12: any kind of influences that you look to as you

784
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 12: kind of began to explore the show.

785
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Speaker 4: I rewatched Silo.

786
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Speaker 11: I mean, I watched some of the Apple TV Plus

787
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 11: shows just to be like, you know, because we were

788
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Speaker 11: going to do this Apple TV Plus show.

789
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Speaker 4: But honestly, and.

790
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Speaker 11: I'm sorry, I already talked about it, but I really

791
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 11: did rewatch them with Buffy like to think about the show,

792
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 11: because I think there are some similar qualities.

793
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 4: It's like an ensemblesh show, like.

794
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 11: And like you know, like there is a lot of action,

795
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 11: but at the core, it's like it's just like, I

796
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 11: don't know, like I think our show also sits on

797
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 11: a nice edge of like sometimes really heavy drama and

798
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 11: then sometimes like it's like pretty wacky and fun.

799
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Speaker 4: And so yeah, I returned to.

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Speaker 11: That, and I yeah, I mean it's a classic. Unfortunately,

801
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 11: my anime watched it. I watched like literally like Naruto,

802
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 11: and I just I can't proudly watch that show.

803
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 8: You know what, People they love Naruto.

804
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: It's got thousand episodes.

805
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 4: It there's a reason it's so popular.

806
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 8: I know, it's been going.

807
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 4: For a long time.

808
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 3: No, no Ruto runs in the show that I saw

809
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: but maybe for season two. Everyone's right with the out spot, Tatsiana,

810
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 3: how about you with that? Any kind of did you

811
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: do any sci fi deep dives to to get ready

812
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: for the show.

813
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 8: We were set up for success. We had seven books

814
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 8: to go from.

815
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 4: I was gonna say math and well, oh he's a legend.

816
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 6: If you haven't at him, go and read those two.

817
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 6: But I was enthralled when I read the books. And

818
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 6: I'm not a side. I don't gravitate to sci fi

819
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 6: when I'm picking up a book or doing anything like that,

820
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 6: but having to read it for work, I'm so glad.

821
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 6: I'm so glad because now my opinion has changed, and

822
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 6: now my horizons have broadened, and now I consider those

823
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 6: sorts of things. But Martha's a very very special talent,

824
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 6: and to read those books, everything is intact in those books,

825
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 6: and I think Chris and Paul did a beautiful job

826
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 6: of really creating something new but staying true to the

827
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 6: books simultaneously. Which if that's a dance and dragons, that yeah,

828
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 6: it has to be acknowledged.

829
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, it's it's I love those books. I

830
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: love a novella. It's and I used to just be

831
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 3: able to flip through something and that I was kind

832
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: of blown away by. It was very different how I

833
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 3: envisioned it, but it still felt very true, true to

834
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 3: the story. Something else I thought was really cool about

835
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: the show, which is not like as much a giant

836
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 3: part of your guys story, but it's a big part

837
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: of you know, Alex's stories. I love that this is

838
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: a future where they envisioned that TV is still a

839
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: massive part of people's lives. I feel like in Star Wars,

840
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: no one's just like binge watching TV. You know. So

841
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 3: what was it like to be making a TV show

842
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 3: where TV is actually like a major plot point and

843
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: you're kind of constantly talk It's almost like you're talking

844
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: about the romance, Like the romance is futuristic, but it's

845
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: really what's happening now. And the way that TV is

846
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: used in the show is very realistic to how we

847
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 3: interact with it now. What was that element like.

848
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 8: I just felt seen? I just felt seen. You were

849
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 8: like I too, binge TV.

850
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: That's all We're in a binging era. Yeah, we're in

851
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 4: a numbing binging era to me.

852
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 11: I also it made me feel so much more connected

853
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 11: to like sometimes you watch sci fi and it just

854
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 11: feels far away, like it's an escapist thing. And like

855
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 11: when I'm like, wait, these people are watching TV and

856
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 11: they're dealing with like Paully.

857
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 4: Amory, I'm like, like.

858
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 11: This could be me, this could be my kids, Like

859
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 11: you know, it like feels so like it makes me

860
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 11: feel very connected, like as a real possibility, you know,

861
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 11: for our future.

862
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, amazing, Thank you both so much. Congrats on the show.

863
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: I thought it was wonderful. Lilah, appreciate you and yeah,

864
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Speaker 3: we both have a good great day you. Next week

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Speaker 3: on x ray Vision, Tuesday, we take one final visit

866
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: to Jackson Hall as we review the season two finale

867
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 3: of The Last of Us. Wednesday, we're reacting to Mission Impossible,

868
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 3: The Final Reckoning. Thursday, the Council gathers to discuss season

869
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: two of the Last of Us.

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00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 2: Friday, we're diving.

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00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: Deep into the action set pieces of Mission Impossible, The

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00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: Final Reckoning Saturday News.

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Speaker 1: X ray Vision is hosted by jasonteps Young and Rosie

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Speaker 1: Night and as a production of iHeart Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joel Menique and Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abusafar.

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00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Fay Wack.

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Speaker 1: songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and

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Speaker 3: Heidi our discord moderator,