1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of The Clay, Travis 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. Arman Clay on a much deserved 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: vacation and college tour with his oldest boy, so he'll 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: be back with us on Monday. He's taken the week 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: to the family stuff and enjoy himself. We hope him, 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Laura and the kids are having a great time. We 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: have a lot of news to dive into today, and 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: things are heating up. I think you could say that 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: the initial honeymoon period with the media, not that they 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: wanted to give us one, but they were so shocked 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: that they couldn't even figure out a way to oppose 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: Trump effectively in public, that is starting to fade as 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: they scream recession, recession, and authoritarianism. So we shall discuss 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: where all this is coming from. We got Congress right 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: now wrangling over the Continuing Resolution. There's government shutdown talk, 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: oh boy, up on Capitol Hill. We will discuss this. 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: Trump announcing new tariffs on Canada, so he's going to 18 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: impose fifty percent tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum. We'll 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: discuss this. This is a retaliatory tariff. There's a lot 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: of back and forth over the arrest of Mahmoud Khalil, 21 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: an anti American pro Hamas pro Palestinian activist on a 22 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: student visa. I think that's a discussion we should get 23 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: into in a little bit. You've also got the aftermath 24 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: of Dylan mulvany on The View. It turns out the 25 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: ladies of the View are as disconnected from reality and 26 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: cognitively limited as we had always assumed here on the show, 27 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: or we had always discussed. And we shall get into 28 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: all of that and more. Also, take a bunch of 29 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: your calls eight hundred two two two eight eight two, 30 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: and I'll just say this, my friends, it is important 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: to note that this was all what we should have 32 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: expected when you try to change the system, when you 33 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: take it upon yourself to challenge the way things are 34 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: done in the biggest, most expensive government in the history 35 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: of the world, which I think is fair to say, 36 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: no one else is spending the trillions that we have spent, 37 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: or we have gotten used to spending. No one else 38 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: has ever gotten thirty six trillion US dollars or the equivalent. 39 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe we could go back to ancient 40 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: Rome or something, but nobody else has run this up 41 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: the way that we have in the modern era. We've 42 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: got some real problems to fix. Right. The initial flurry 43 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: of executive orders from Trump was fantastic. It was it 44 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: was time for us all to high five, do backflips. 45 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: And like I said, if you remember you were listening 46 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: to us at the time, I said, enjoy this. Go 47 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: out this weekend, crack a beer or a chardonnay, or 48 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: whatever it is you like to you know, in my case, 49 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: some stevious sweetened water. Go go enjoy yourself and enjoy 50 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: the victory that Trump had over all the forces trying 51 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: to stop him. Enjoy the victory the Republicans had. Because 52 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: things are gonna get messy, and we're entering the messy 53 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: phase now. It's not going to be what they're telling 54 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: you it is, which is that somehow this is all 55 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: going to fall apart and the economy is so bad 56 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: and it's all Trump's fault. That is to be expected 57 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: from an anti Trump media that has lied to you 58 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: about absolutely everything. I've seen that, even with the the 59 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: Heritage Foundation, I think it's the accountability project they have. 60 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: They've looked at the signatures, the auto pen signatures of 61 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: Biden on a bunch of his well, a bunch of 62 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: things that he officially signed, and some of them don't 63 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: match up. And this under a normal president, Under a 64 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: cognitively functioning president, you might say, well, you know, people 65 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: use auto pens. Did Biden even know all the things 66 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: he was signing? And if you didn't know all the 67 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: things he was signing, it's not really law, is it 68 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: if some advisor just effectively forged his signature. 69 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: Right? 70 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: It's one thing for a president to have an autopen signature. Go, yes, 71 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: my hand is tired. Auto that has happened before. We 72 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: know this. Oh, I'm not discounting that reality. But if 73 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: a president isn't even aware of what is being signed 74 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: in his name, is is that a thing that we 75 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: don't pay attention to? Does that not have consequences? I 76 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: think it clearly should. But I bring it up because 77 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: we have entered a new era now where we have 78 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: a president who is very much engaged and advisors who 79 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: are on a mission. This is not the business as 80 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: usual presidency. This is not even the Trump as we 81 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: got to know him presidency, as in Trump one point ozho. 82 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: This is clearly Trump two point oh. This is something 83 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: elevated and beyond the first go round, there was a 84 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: lot of on the job learning. There were personnel decisions 85 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: and mistakes. Let's just be honest about this. Trump is 86 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: honest about it. He fired a bunch of people. He 87 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: has had people turn against him who owe their careers 88 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: to him, now in the media, but then in government. 89 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: So there was a learning curve, and there was I 90 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: think from the Trump team also the surprise of having 91 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: to deal with not just the media going all out 92 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: against him, but we remember the Russia collusion hoax and 93 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: the media, Democrat, intelligence community complex, the apparatus all going 94 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: at Trump with everything that they had, and it slowed 95 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: things down. This time around, they have thrown everything at him, 96 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: and they have been shown incapable of stopping him from 97 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: getting to his second term. A magnificent thing, an incredible comeback. 98 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: That's why I told you enjoy it. Don't just look 99 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: at the fight ahead. You know, when you win the 100 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: big game before you go to the state championship, you 101 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: still go out and celebrate. The election victory was huge. 102 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: Now we get to fixing the country. And fixing the 103 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: country isn't going to be something that just happens overnight 104 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: or even in the first quarter or two of Trump's term. 105 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: Remember he hasn't even been an office two months, and 106 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: they're saying, oh, look at the price of eggs, look 107 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: at the stock marker, look at noise. This is noise. 108 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: And there's also an important perception management that has to 109 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: go on here where if you're going to contract government, 110 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: and if we have become for GDP purposes reliant on 111 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: government's expansion, as in too much spending the government just creates, 112 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: creates the perception of additional value. It's just numbers on 113 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: a screen, or it's paying bureaucrats who do nothing. I 114 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: mentioned you yesterday twenty five percent of new jobs under 115 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: Biden government jobs. The government is putting out twenty five 116 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: percent of the new jobs that are being created over 117 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: the course of an entire twenty twenty three, I think, 118 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty four is close to it, if not 119 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: the same, that's not making any of us better off. 120 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: That is just expanding the scope and price tag of 121 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: the government itself. To deal with that though, it's a 122 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: little bit like going on a diet something I know about, 123 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: because you're going to be hungry, and if we have 124 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: to be hungry here when it comes to government spending 125 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: a little bit. This is the thing it's all about. 126 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: It's all about proportion, it's all about balance. Trump is 127 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: trying to restore balance. Elon does, They're trying to restore 128 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: sanity in the way that the government spends, in the 129 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: way that the government takes your money in your name 130 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: and puts it to use, in many cases, very bad use, 131 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: in some cases, just effectively lighting money on fire. To 132 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: stop that process from happening, there's going to be fierce opposition, 133 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: which we have already seen, right, especially when you start 134 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: to touch these NGOs. I think it was Elon who said, 135 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: and it's so right, How is it a non government 136 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: organization if the government is entirely responsible for funding it, 137 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: that's just a cutout. That's what we would call it 138 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: intelligence circles, right, that's a carve out, it's a proxy. 139 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: So something was very wrong with that whole situation, and 140 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: now many of us are far more aware of it 141 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: than we ever we ever had been in the past. 142 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: So that's an important win. And now we're looking at 143 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: the beginning of stopping the spending juggernaut from just rampaging 144 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: forward toward forty trillion dollars of debt. It's not going 145 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: to be easy, and it is not going to be 146 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: without a little bit of rumbling along the way. There's 147 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: there's going to be some moments where things are going 148 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: to look a little bit tougher than they might have 149 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: been if we just continued spending. But we can't continue 150 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: the spending. And this is why Trump has come out 151 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: and said that he wants to put the country on 152 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: a firmer economic footing. He wants to do what he 153 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: can so that this isn't just about what the stock 154 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,359 Speaker 1: market looks like now, it's how far is your paycheck 155 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: going in a year, in two years, in five years. 156 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: This is about turning around a massive part of the 157 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: economic engine here so that it is and really redoing 158 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: parts of it so that it can function more efficiently 159 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: for everyone. Because we've seen what the inflation has done 160 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: to your ability to pay your rent. We've seen if 161 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: you are asset light in this economy, meaning if you 162 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: don't own a lot of stuff that is productive, stocks, 163 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: real estate, things like that, if you don't know, then 164 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: that all gets inflat along with the inflation. And so 165 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: what it does is it squeezes those who are working 166 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: for paychecks for a living, which is the vast majority 167 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: of the American people. Those who are doing work and 168 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: trying to get ahead and just trying to pay their 169 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: bills and do it the right way, they have a 170 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: tougher time, and it is effectively attacks on them to 171 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: continue to spend at the levels we have currently seen. 172 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: This has to be addressed. This has to be changed. 173 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: And this is also why you will see Democrats are 174 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: You'll notice there's no spending that they really want to cut. 175 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: They like the control that this gives them. There's a 176 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of social engineering that is possible when you're 177 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: spending so much money that nobody even knows what you're 178 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: spending it on or who's getting it. It is such 179 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: a shield. It is such a shroud for corruption because 180 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: if you don't if no one really knows where the 181 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: money's going. The numbers are so big and there's so 182 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: many things, how can you ever get a handle on this. 183 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: This is where Trump and Elon and Doge come in 184 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: and the fight over the government shutdown. I have a 185 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: tough time getting all that energized about this. One way 186 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: or the other. We've been through this before. It's a 187 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: lot of brinksmanship and blame game stuff, and eventually the 188 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: government will be funded if they allow it to be 189 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: defunded temporarily or the funding to run short. I believe 190 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: Trump then is in a position to just decide what 191 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: is considered essential and what keeps running. So there's that. 192 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: But here is Speaker Johnson who is trying to wrangle 193 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: all of this, and he's saying that it's Democrats who 194 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: are taking this to the point where there could be 195 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: a shutdown. Play one. 196 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 2: They're planning to vote down the simple Bill. They are 197 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: going to try to shut the government down. Every House 198 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: Democrat will participate on this. It looks like that would 199 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 2: be a shame if it's true. I hope some of 200 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: them will have a moment of clarity themselves and do 201 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: the right thing. But it looks like they're going to 202 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: try to shut down the government. It's a striking new 203 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 2: posture for Democrats who have always said they spend apoplectic 204 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: about the prospect of government shutdowns. Democrats have been insisting 205 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: they're fighting for federal workers. You're about to see again 206 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: on vivid display very clear the contrast. You will see 207 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: one team that is working to fund the government and 208 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: make sure, we do the responsible thing, and you're going 209 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: to see another posing as r because they've now exposed 210 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: the truth. They're not for federal workers, they're not for anyone. 211 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: All the people they've said in the past that are 212 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: going to be harmed would be by their votes. 213 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: This is one of the challenges of opposing Democrats is 214 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: that they stand for whatever they need to stand for 215 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: in the moment. They change their mind on everything. They 216 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: change their principles as if they have any They change 217 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: what they believe in. It doesn't It's about power, and 218 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: when you're talking about the government and how it spends money, 219 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: there might be. 220 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: No more. 221 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: Clear abuse of power that Democrats can engage in than 222 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: what we what we see, which is spending us all 223 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: into oblivion. Tackling this is a critical issue. I've said 224 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: it from the very beginning. Are borders and the government 225 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: cutting it down to side, cutting the spending down, cutting 226 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: the bureaucray down the two most important missions of the 227 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: Trump administration. We've seen excellent work at the border so far. 228 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: Thank you Tom Homan and team, and credit to DHS 229 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: Secretary Nome. Credit to the people that are doing what 230 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: is necessary to secure our border so that it's ninety 231 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: five percent down for illegal crossings. Interior enforcement is the 232 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: harder problem. I will always be honest with you. That 233 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: is even more challenging, and that will require more political 234 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: will and more infrastructure. It's millions, it's tens of millions 235 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: of people that you're talking about who are at least 236 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: possible deportees. And then you have tackling the government beast. 237 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: You see, the Democrats had created a system where they 238 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: win no matter what, even when they lose elections, they 239 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: win because the spending is automatic, because the bureaucracy huge, 240 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: because there's no accountability in DC, and it's just one 241 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: free for all with your money, you go to work, 242 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: you spend your life and your time trying to be 243 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: productive and provide for your family. And the shenanigans in 244 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: DC means that you're a hamster on a treadmill that 245 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: keeps going faster and faster and faster, and how are 246 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: you supposed to keep up? That's not good. And Trump 247 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: recognizes that his team sees what's going on and they 248 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: are taking steps to make this better. It's not going 249 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: to be perfect, it's not going to be quick, and 250 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: it's not going to be that easy. There's going to 251 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: be a little bit of disruption. The markets may be 252 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: in some tumult here for a few months. Of course, 253 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: of course, when you're correcting a problem, there tends to 254 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: be right in. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. 255 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: When you stop overspending, it's going to feel like things 256 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: are a little lean sometimes, But for a vast majority 257 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: of people. I truly believe it's vast reglory of Americans. 258 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: This is clearly the way it has to be done, 259 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: and it has to be done now. By the midterms, 260 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: we're back to business as usual. By the midterms 're 261 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: just arguing over how to move the deck chairs on 262 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: our fiscal titanic. It's not good. 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You never 289 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: want to come at Trump with I'm going to bully you. 290 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: It's just it just won't make It won't work. It 291 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: won't work, and I think Canada pushing on this too forcefully. 292 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: The approach with the that they should take with Trump, 293 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: specifically our Canadian brothers and sisters, The approach that Trump 294 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: that they should take with Trump is, you know what, 295 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: you're right, Why do we have a two hundred and 296 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: fifty percent tariff on Darry? We should adjust that. We 297 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: love America, You're such a great neighbor. You provide is 298 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: effectively total and complete security from foreign countries invading us 299 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: or beating us up, or there's a whole range of 300 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: things and a tremendous asset to our economy and your 301 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: people and our people really like each other and get 302 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: along super well. So that's the way. You don't say, oh, yeah, 303 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna do this, well, I'm gonna do that. I'm 304 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna put a big tariff on you, sir. 305 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: Not good for the Canadian leadership to take to take 306 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: that approach, because Trump loves this. He loves it when 307 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: they decide that they're gonna play tough guy. And as 308 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: Trump has said to another tough guy, Zelenski, you don't 309 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: have the cards. You don't have the cards Canada. We'll 310 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: talk about some of the specifics here and also why terriffs, 311 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: Why tariffs, let's really dive into that in a moment. 312 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: Are you in the market for a new cell phone? 313 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: Is your current one cracked or the battery constantly drinning 314 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: and way too fast? Well, get a new iPhone fourteen 315 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: or Samsung Galaxy for zero dollars from Puretalk. 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We're gonna talk a little tariff econ one 334 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: oh one history. Maybe we'll dive into the Smoot Hawley 335 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: tariffs back in what the thirties. This is. This is 336 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: a moment where I think it's important to look at 337 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: the basics because things are getting a little bit feisty 338 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: on the tariff front. And let me just give you 339 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: the news on this, and then we'll do a little 340 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: bit of a deep, deep dive into the analysis. Donald 341 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: Trump from Truth Social I'm quoting now based on Ontario, 342 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: Canada placing a twenty five percent tariff on electricity coming 343 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: into the United States. I've instructed my Secretary of Commerce 344 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: to add an additional twenty five percent tariff to fifty 345 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: percent tariff on all steel and aluminum coming into the 346 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: United States from Canada, one of the highest tariffing nations 347 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world. Okay, so he says, this will 348 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: go into a fact tomorrow morning, March twelfth, He says 349 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: Canada must drop their anti American farmer tariff of two 350 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: and fifty on various US dairy products. I'll declare a 351 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: national emergency and electricity within the threatened area. This will 352 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: allow the US to do what needs to be done 353 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada. Okay, a couple 354 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: things here. First of all, as we've already established, because 355 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: this is so important, I understand, the economic consensus, such 356 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: as it exists among among economists, is that tariffs are 357 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: almost like it's like a sales tax, or it's just 358 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: it's a tax that consumers pay and it lessens aggregate demand. 359 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: And so they just say that's bad. They just view 360 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: tariffs bad. They want total free trade. That's the least theoretically. 361 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: The problem with this, and this is why I gave 362 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: economists a little rough stuff yesterday. The problem with this 363 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: is that there are there are a lot of tariffs 364 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: and a lot of protectionist policies in place all over 365 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: the world already, including with our neighbors Mexico and Canada. 366 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: So we're not starting from a place of everything is level. 367 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: Why are you making it not level with your tariff? 368 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: This is where we get to reciprocal tariff right in 369 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: the word reciprocal. They're doing this to us, and so 370 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: we do something in response. If my neighbor Clay hates 371 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: leaf blowers, and by the way, he is spot on, 372 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: leafblowers drive me insane too. If my neighbor is using 373 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: a leaf blower super loudly and they won't stop at 374 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: you know, seven o'clock at night, eight o'clock at night, 375 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: because as we know this is leaf blowers should be 376 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: a nine to five thing. You shouldn't wake anybody up. 377 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: You shouldn't keep anybody from going to sleep. Anyway. Some 378 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: of you are going to take issue with that, but 379 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: you're wrong. If I then start playing loud music, if 380 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: I start blasting Beethoven over the fence so that they 381 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: get the hint, I'm not the noise polluter. I'm engaged 382 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: in a reciprocal act of noisemaking so that they will stop. 383 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: Although maybe they'll just love the Beethoven. This is a 384 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: total digrette, you know what. I'll come to this later. 385 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: I actually experience something in Nashville when it comes to 386 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: classical music I thought was fascinating. But I'll tell you 387 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: about that in a moment. I don't want to I 388 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: don't I don't want to weave too much. I don't 389 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: want to weave too much. Trump weaves. I weave without clay. 390 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: Here my weave can sometimes spin off into So I'm 391 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: going to get back on the tariffs, reciprocal tariffs, meaning 392 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: they are doing this to us. Why would a country, 393 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: why would Canada have a two hundred and fifty percent 394 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: tariff on our dairy going across the border unless there 395 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 1: were some benefit to them. Of course, there is some 396 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: benefit to your domestic producers and domestic industry, and so 397 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: that's why other countries do this to us, right, I mean, 398 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: we're just we're just looking at this logically. Put aside, 399 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: you know, whether somebody is U. I mean, Paul Krugman 400 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: is anonymists who got a Nobel Prize. The guys are moron. 401 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: So you know, it's not like we have to just 402 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: sit there and say, oh, whatever you say. Economists. Now 403 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: you look at individual tariffs on individual on an individual basis, 404 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: and you realize they are a tool. It is a tool, 405 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: just like for example, sanctions saying now that's more that's 406 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: more aggressive. But you know, sanctions are a tool sometimes good, 407 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: sometimes bad. Tariffs sometimes good, sometimes bad. It depends. It 408 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: is case dependent. And this is what gets lost in 409 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: so much of the discussion about this because people just 410 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: say they have this this automatic wave of the hand, 411 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: will all the economists say? And I'm like, you know, 412 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: what do all the economists really know? You know, you 413 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: got to ask that question what they What have they 414 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: gotten right about the economy recently? Not a whole lot. Now, 415 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: there are obviously exceptions to this. We have some great economists, 416 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: and we've had Art Laugher on the show and Steve 417 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: Boorr on the show, and they're brilliant guys out there. 418 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: But I mean, it's like the same thing with the 419 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: foreign policy consensus. If you listen to the DC based 420 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: foreign policy consensus, there's not a war we shouldn't fight, 421 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: there's not an invasion we shouldn't do. You know, America 422 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: is the global police, and they've been very wrong, and 423 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: we've paid a heavy price for this. With the so 424 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: called economic consensus, we have been on the receiving end 425 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: of tariffs and what you could say our trade war 426 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: acts for a long time, and we don't do anything 427 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: in response. This is where Trump was right on the 428 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: issue of China in his first term, and the DC 429 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: consensus was so Remember I say DC consensus because a 430 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: lot of Republicans. It's not just Democrats opposed Trump period. Democrats. 431 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: You know. Trump says, hey, it's a nice day, and 432 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: they look, it's a terrible day. Seventy five degrees and 433 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: breezy is terrible. They don't care. But there are Republicans 434 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: that go along with this as well. There are Republicans 435 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: that decide, oh, I disagree with Trump on this issue, 436 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: and they were proven wrong in the first term on 437 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: China in my opinion, and I think in everyone's opinion, 438 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: because even Biden kept a lot of the Trump China 439 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: policies in place on trade. We want to get them 440 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: to stop doing what they're doing. So we are then 441 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: creating the threat of tariff's creates and even a more 442 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: even playing ground for our producers and our consumers. Why 443 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: should we have less access to their market than they 444 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: have to ours. Ah And this is again where it's 445 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: a tool. Now we have the premiere of Ontario, Doug 446 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: Ford here talking tough about terriff fights with Trump play 447 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: this one. 448 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 5: Let me be clear, I will not hesitate to increase 449 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 5: this charge if necessary, if the United States escalates, I 450 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 5: will not hesitate to shut the electricity off completely. Believe 451 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 5: me when I say I do not want to do this. 452 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 5: I feel terrible for the American people because it's not 453 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 5: the American people who started this trade war. It's one 454 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 5: person who's responsible. That's President Trump. I'd rather be working together. 455 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 5: I want to sell the US more energy, g G, 456 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 5: more electricity, more critical minerals. I want to make Canada 457 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 5: in the United States the richest, most successful, safest. 458 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, here, we get it. Get it anyway. The 459 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: point is he's throwing down with Trump. Now. They're saying 460 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: they're going to make our electricity cost more, specifically to Minnesota, Michigan, 461 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: and New York, which get electricity across across the border 462 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: from Canada, so they're going to drive up energy prices 463 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: on US. Trump is saying, don't worry, we're going to 464 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: handle this. Here's the way to handle it. We want 465 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: also things that aren't necessarily purely economic as well, which 466 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: is where more so with Mexico, but also with Canada. 467 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: We want border cooperation. So see people say again tariffs 468 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: are a tool. Okay, will something be will something be 469 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: more expensive? As a result of tariff, particularly over a 470 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: relatively short period of time. Yes, but are there more 471 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: important things than cost of goods in that one sector 472 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: for that period of time. This is a decision to 473 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: be made, right, What is more important that we keep 474 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: I don't know the cost of textiles brought in from Mexico. 475 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: I think those are even brought in mostly from Southeast 476 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: Asia now, But whatever we are, the cost of avocados, 477 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: that's what we always Oh my gosh, if we do 478 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: anything with Mexico and trade you, your avocado toast is 479 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: going to be And that's always a cheap shot. They 480 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: take at US millennials and gen z with the avoca. 481 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: Avocado toast is delicious, but they say, your avocado is 482 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: going to be so expensive? All right, if a fifty 483 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: percent increase in the cost of avocados is something that 484 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: we're willing to bear in order to get a fifty 485 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: percent reduction in I don't know fentanyl seizures at the border. 486 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: Is that worth it? Again, it is a tool. It's 487 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: something that Trump is using. Did Trump blow up the economy? 488 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: And this is the other part of this I get 489 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: too as well. Did Trump blow up the economy? And 490 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: first administration, when he was doing these different maneuvers on trade, 491 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: when he negotiated the US Canada Mexico agreement. What is 492 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: the record of Trump on the economy? Phenomenally strong, right, 493 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: Who knows more than Trump, who has been in a 494 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: position of leadership, who's been a president in recent memory? 495 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: No one, No one is better on the economy than Trump, 496 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: I would say, as president in my lifetime, better than Bush, 497 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: better than Obama, better obviously better than Biden. I mean, 498 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: you can go back to Reagan, but there are some 499 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: things that would I would quibble with when it comes 500 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: to some of well, really on immigration with Reagan, that's 501 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: where we have a departure, more so than on the economy. Nonetheless, 502 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: I think that Trump has earned the leeway to pursue 503 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: these paths without people freaking out, at least on our side. 504 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: The Democrats are going to freak out no matter what, 505 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: But on our side of things, it's going to be 506 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: it's going to be a little bit of time, and 507 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 1: there's going to be a little bit of disruption, because 508 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: to be a disruptor to the system requires some disruption. 509 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: This is very straightforward. You're not going to fix this 510 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: stuff without there being a little bit of WHOA okay, 511 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: And there's going to be kicking and screaming from bureaucrats 512 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: and the deep state and the Democrats and the anti 513 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: Trump media that's looking for anything to say that is 514 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: negative for Trump. So when we talk about tariffs, I 515 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: just think it's important to put it in the context 516 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: of one, it's a negotiating tool. Some of these tariffs 517 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: won't even go into effect. Two, the reciprocal tariffs they 518 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: are in response to, in a lot of cases, tariffs 519 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: that already exist with other countries. So we're saying, hey, 520 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: knock that off and we'll knock this off. What's wrong 521 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: with that? I don't understand why why should we say 522 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: that other countries could punish our access to their markets 523 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: and punish our producers, but we can't do the same. 524 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 1: And then three, sometimes there are things that are more 525 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: important than an increase in the cost in a certain 526 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: industry at a certain time. This is really where I 527 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: get into the agreement on Mexico. With Mexico on border issues, 528 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: that's a critical US national security and sovereignty interest. It's 529 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: not just about the price of avocados. So with that 530 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: in mind, I understand we don't want things to get crazy. 531 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: We don't want prices to skyrocket. The Trump administration is 532 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: sensitive to it. But just remember the same people who 533 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: are criticizing this with the most fervor in the media 534 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: and in a commentariat, we're the ones who are telling 535 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: you that Joe Biden with sharp as attack. Why would 536 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: you believe them now? Why do they have credibility now 537 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: on this issue? So we give it some time, We 538 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: let this play out, We let Trump do what he does. Okay, 539 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: he's got Elon Musk. You got people running around Democrats. 540 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is dumb. Anybody who tells that Elon Musk 541 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: is dumb shouldn't be listened to on anything. And I 542 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: don't know how they can even tie their own shoes. 543 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: They shouldn't be listened to on a single issue period, 544 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: full stop. All right, We've got very smart people. I 545 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 1: do not have concerns, especially on the economic and budget 546 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: cutting side of this administration. You have an all star 547 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: team that has been assembled. Look at the people who 548 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: are criticizing it. They mean when I said, look, it's 549 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: okay to say I disagree with this terraff for that tariff, 550 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: that's fine. I mean the ones who are saying, we're 551 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: session it's gonna be terrible. They're trying to induce fear 552 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: in people to turn them against what Trump is trying 553 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: to do. 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We got a bunch 598 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: of calls coming in, a bunch of talkbacks and vip emails. 599 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you sharing your thoughts, your ideas, your insights. 600 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 1: Let's get to I had to check to make sure 601 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: this is right. Bob in Moscow, Russia? Like that, Moscow? 602 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: Are you really in Moscow? Are you pulling our leg? 603 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 3: I'm really in Moscow that I've been here for eight years? 604 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 1: How is that. 605 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: It's actually a fairly safe place to live except for 606 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 3: the drones? Like last night they went very close to 607 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 3: where I live. But that's a normal thing since everything 608 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 3: broke out. 609 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: How are they toured as an American? Are they are 610 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: people pretty friendly to you over there or how does 611 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: that go? 612 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, you still have the few that aren't, but you'd 613 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: be surprised at the number of expats that are here 614 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 3: basketball players, hockey players from Canada, America, England, South America 615 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 3: because Aus the family values here are so much nicer 616 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 3: than what they are in America at the moment. 617 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: Wow, okay, interesting, Well you want to talk about tariffs. 618 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: Tell me about tariffs. 619 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, there we play tariffs every place. I would love 620 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 3: in Europe or other place to be able to get 621 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 3: Wisconsin cheese, Wisconsin steak, and it's impossible to get because 622 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 3: one the tariffs are so high, or two they're just 623 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 3: not allowed to be imported. So our business and our 624 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 3: farmers in America, they're milk products, they're dairy products that 625 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 3: I come from Wisconsin. They're all being excluded by tariffs 626 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 3: of other countries. 627 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, say thank you, Bob. Thank you by the way, 628 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: stay safe in Moscow. Appreciate you calling in Moscow. I've 629 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: never been to Russia. Be interesting. I would just say 630 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: this on you know, because I'm also seeing some of 631 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: the people who are writing in or calling in and saying, 632 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, they disagree and Central Planning and what about 633 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: Milton Friedman and all this stuff. Guys, there are tariffs 634 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 1: already in place against the United States from certain countries. 635 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: What are we supprised that is that cool? Or are 636 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: we supposed to say, yeah, that's good, keep that tariff 637 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: against our producers, especially for a country that's right next door. 638 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: So why is that okay? You know, if you're assuming 639 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: that we're in a state of true free trade and 640 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: there weren't barriers put in by countries, I would say, yes, 641 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: why would we do that. Everything's working out great, it's 642 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: all free and fair. It's not. Don't get fooled into utopianism. 643 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: What works on the blackboard in a classroom somewhere is 644 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: not necessarily what works in reality is we all know. 645 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: We'll dive into more of this coming up. Teams, stay 646 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: with me.