Speaker 1: High, Joey sweet High and Andria Barber. Uh that we
Speaker 1: used to do that all We would just walk by
Speaker 1: each other on set from Full House, Fuller House, just
Speaker 1: the every time I would see you, I just walked
Speaker 1: be like Andrea Barber.
Speaker 2: I don't know why last Sunday, Yeah, joe ybody, Sweeten yep.
Speaker 2: Why didn't we start doing that?
Speaker 1: Why did we start doing any of this? You know,
Speaker 1: I have no idea. It just because it's one of
Speaker 1: those things like you pass each other so often, I
Speaker 1: think in dressing room hallways. I always feel it was
Speaker 1: always like awkward to not like acknowledge somebody. So I
Speaker 1: would just say their name at them in some sort
Speaker 1: of strange, random fashion. I don't know. It felt appropriate,
Speaker 1: and it felt appropriate and normal right, which should have
Speaker 1: been the first morning now yea. But yeah, and Ria Barber,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to be here with you today. Me too,
Speaker 1: Me too. You know what I was thinking about because
Speaker 1: we were talking last week about going up to the
Speaker 1: full House house when we were out in front of
Speaker 1: the house.
Speaker 2: And the house, the house, the house, the the.
Speaker 1: House, the house that no longer looks like the house
Speaker 1: because they don't want people knowing it's the house. But
Speaker 1: the owner came out when we were out there dancing
Speaker 1: like fools in front of the house, and we tried
Speaker 1: to play it off really cool. I don't think I
Speaker 1: don't think we did. I don't think the.
Speaker 2: Owner really appreciated that.
Speaker 1: But that's okay. Look, we were bringing joy and happiness
Speaker 1: to the sidewalk area in front of the house. Speaking
Speaker 1: of bringing joy and happiness, it's amazing how many people
Speaker 1: do stop by that house. And again, really sorry, owners,
Speaker 1: we didn't do it. We apologize, We apologize, but there.
Speaker 2: Were people there even like they weren't there for us,
Speaker 2: but right, but just as a general sorry that you
Speaker 2: have to live in a in a you know, a
Speaker 2: tourist attraction.
Speaker 1: But there were people that came by to like take
Speaker 1: pictures of the house. Right, So of course you and
Speaker 1: I are standing in front of the house and are
Speaker 1: dressed in our dressing kind of nineties grunge outfit which
Speaker 1: looked fabulous by the way, those outfits, yeah, I love
Speaker 1: those outfits. Thank you, Taylor are rear stylists for pulling
Speaker 1: that off. Anyway, there was a family of three girls
Speaker 1: and an older brother who ran across the street to
Speaker 1: the point they ran and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: a car, like I'm this kid just took off running
Speaker 1: towards us right, and three little blonde girls and their
Speaker 1: older brother and mom who were losing their minds. Apparently
Speaker 1: they dressed one of them dressed up as Steph for Halloween.
Speaker 1: I think they did. The three. I think they were
Speaker 1: a DJ, Stephan and Michelle. They were the three Tanner sisters.
Speaker 1: They were so excited. They were there on vacation. They
Speaker 1: just stopped by to see the full House house and like,
Speaker 1: oh my god.
Speaker 2: Saint Louis Missouri or st Yeah, they're from Missouri.
Speaker 1: And then we were getting ready to leave and another
Speaker 1: family of three came up and I started to say
Speaker 1: something to them, and the dad turns and he says,
Speaker 1: we're from Germany. We don't speak English. That was a
Speaker 1: terrible German accent. I'm so sorry. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: let people know that he did not, in fact spake English.
Speaker 1: And they were from Germany coming to take a picture
Speaker 1: in front of the full House house and saw us
Speaker 1: and were like losing their mind.
Speaker 2: I wonder what they were thinking, Like I can't even
Speaker 2: put myself in their shoes of how trippy. That must
Speaker 2: have been to see the actual characters.
Speaker 1: I actually thought that was when I was up on
Speaker 1: the road trip with the girls and my friend Brooke,
Speaker 1: who you know. We were up there touring around and
Speaker 1: he was like, we have to go buy the full
Speaker 1: house house. I was like, all right, let's do it.
Speaker 1: So we drove by because I wanted to get a
Speaker 1: picture of the kids and I in front of it.
Speaker 1: And we're standing there getting a picture, and of course
Speaker 1: people pull over and they're going to get a picture
Speaker 1: of the house. No idea. So I offer to take
Speaker 1: these people's pictures. I was like, hey, you want me
Speaker 1: to take the picture and they were like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like okay, so I take the picture and
Speaker 1: I put my glasses up and I hand the phone
Speaker 1: back to him and they were like, oh, like it
Speaker 1: was such a great moment, and they were like, will
Speaker 1: you get a picture with us? I was like yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: It was just it's so much fun to like, I mean,
Speaker 1: could you imagine showing up to a place for your
Speaker 1: favorite show and like randomly some of the cast is there.
Speaker 2: So trippy.
Speaker 1: So it was like when we drove around in the
Speaker 1: car when we were shooting some of the promos for
Speaker 1: Fuller House, and we were all dressed up in our
Speaker 1: eighties gear. Oh yeah, John, that was about you and
Speaker 1: years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were up there shooting for the thirtieth anniversary
Speaker 2: of the premiere of Full House. And Jeff Franklin, the
Speaker 2: creator of an executive producer of a full House. He
Speaker 2: owned the house at that time. He had actually bought
Speaker 2: it and was trying to renovate it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think he wanted to turn it into a B
Speaker 1: and B or an Airbnb.
Speaker 2: I think so, or just I felt, Okay, here's the
Speaker 2: story I remember is that he wanted to make it
Speaker 2: look as much like the Tanner House inside, right, which
Speaker 2: was which is totally because.
Speaker 1: Physics and that house couldn't. Let me tell you, we've
Speaker 1: been inside that house. It's so small, you guys, It's
Speaker 1: so small you couldn't. You would have trouble just getting
Speaker 1: Danny and the three girls in there and not being miserable,
Speaker 1: but like adding the Cassopolies and the Gladstones and the
Speaker 1: and the babies and this way. Oh my, there it
Speaker 1: was that house would have been if it actually existed,
Speaker 1: really really really packed tight.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. It's yeah, small rooms. Real estate
Speaker 2: is very expensive in San Francisco. It is it rooms
Speaker 2: reflect that.
Speaker 1: But not the backyard of full house, because that thing
Speaker 1: changed every single episode. Well, we'll discuss that for sure.
Speaker 1: Can we get to that? Speaking of episodes, shall we uh?
Speaker 1: Shall we dive in? Let's do it, Let's do this.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to How Rude Tannertos. I am one of
Speaker 2: your hosts, Andrea Barber.
Speaker 1: And I am one of your other hosts, the only
Speaker 1: other host, Jody Sweeten.
Speaker 2: Today we are discussing the pilot episode, Season one, episode
Speaker 2: one titled Our Very First Show. It first aired on
Speaker 2: September twenty first, nineteen eighty seven, and the show goes
Speaker 2: a little something like this. When Danny Tanner's wife Pamela
Speaker 2: is killed in an auto accident, he finds himself alone
Speaker 2: to raise his three daughters, dj who is ten, Stephanie,
Speaker 2: who is five, and baby Michelle, who is nine months old. Fortunately,
Speaker 2: Danny's hair obsessed rock star brother in law Jesse Cochran,
Speaker 2: along with Danny's cartoon loving friend Joey Gladstone, move in
Speaker 2: as unlikely help for Danny to raise his girls. This
Speaker 2: episode was directed by Joelswick, who we will talk a
Speaker 2: lot about later because he is such an iconic nineties
Speaker 2: sitcom director. Indeed, it was written by Jeff Franklin, who
Speaker 2: we've also mentioned on the show and will be appearing
Speaker 2: on the show at some point.
Speaker 1: He also created the show, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the heartbeat of the show. And this episode
Speaker 2: is starring John Stamos as Jesse Cochrane, Bom Zaggett as
Speaker 2: Danny Tanner, Dave Cleay as Joey Gladstone, Candice Cameron Burret
Speaker 2: as DJ Tanner, Jody Sweeten as Stephanie Tanner, Ashley and
Speaker 2: Mary Kate Olsen as Michelle Tanner.
Speaker 1: And Kimmy Gibler has yet to enter the building.
Speaker 2: Kimmy Gibler is mentioned in this episode, yes, but has
Speaker 2: not yet made an appearance yet entered now. But there
Speaker 2: are two other guest stars, Alice Hearson as Claire Tanner,
Speaker 2: Danny's mom, and Christy Clairidge as Vanessa.
Speaker 1: A very important fact by the way, about Christy Claridge,
Speaker 1: who also when she appeared at the front door. When
Speaker 1: I watched this episode, I was like, I remember her.
Speaker 1: I remember I loved the out whatever, the outfit that
Speaker 1: she had on some very eighties like BOOSTI a pink moment.
Speaker 1: I was like as a kid, I was like, I
Speaker 1: like that outfit. But more importantly, she was Misinternational nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty two. But she is the sister of Linda Hogan,
Speaker 1: who is the ex wife of Hull Cogan.
Speaker 2: So that is such a random fact.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it doesn't get more eighties than Whule Cogan. Okay,
Speaker 1: what is it? What you think about that brother or whatever?
Speaker 1: Wasn't that the whole Cogan? Sorry, I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: not at Yeah, let's go with that and let's never
Speaker 1: do it again. Okay, So okay, let's do it. Let's
Speaker 1: do it go.
Speaker 2: Let's go everywhere we look, everywhere you look. Let's start
Speaker 2: with the opening credits. We talked about this in our
Speaker 2: first episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but here the longest opening credits.
Speaker 2: The longest opening credits ever and so iconic. We love
Speaker 2: them so much. Do you, Jody, did you remember auditioning
Speaker 2: for this pilot? Like were you excited about getting your
Speaker 2: first pilot? Tell me like you were five, Like how
Speaker 2: much life experience had you had.
Speaker 1: I actually did an audition for the show. I had
Speaker 1: done a guest appearance on a show called Valerie, which
Speaker 1: was Valerie Harper's Show, Oh Yeah, which later became The
Speaker 1: Hogan Family. But I had done a guest appearance on that,
Speaker 1: playing the next door neighbor's niece, Pamela Pool. I actually
Speaker 1: played Pamela and and so I did an episode of
Speaker 1: that with Jason Bateman and that was my first episode
Speaker 1: of television ever. And then from that they had sent
Speaker 1: a tape over to Jeff I guess of my appearance
Speaker 1: on that, and he was like, yep, that's Stephanie. And
Speaker 1: that was it. So I never actually auditioned for the show.
Speaker 1: It just again this weird little magic spell that's been
Speaker 1: cast over full house, like the people just sort of
Speaker 1: if you know, it was kids the Oald of Dreams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you yeah, if you create it, they will, they will,
Speaker 1: they will show up. So anyway, so that was that
Speaker 1: was how it happened. What about I mean, you've been doing.
Speaker 2: Days of Our Lives right, Oh yeah, well I was ten,
Speaker 2: so I had I had extensive acting credits that are huge. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that point right, So yeah, I do remember bits of
Speaker 2: my audition. I auditioned twice. I auditioned for DJ first
Speaker 2: and then I auditioned obviously didn't get that role. Uh.
Speaker 2: And then I auditioned for Kimmy Gibbler. Is isn't a
Speaker 2: good time to talk about the script that I found,
Speaker 2: my original edition script that nobody get into the show.
Speaker 1: I feel like we should definitely bring up what could
Speaker 1: have been, what.
Speaker 2: Could have been?
Speaker 1: Right, So I would have been, yeah, this.
Speaker 2: This I don't know, like, look at me saying this.
Speaker 2: Let me show you on this audio podcast when I'm holding.
Speaker 1: Up right now it's a why don't you describe it?
Speaker 1: It's a script.
Speaker 2: This is an original script, a very very early draft.
Speaker 1: Not even an original well it's an original pilot script.
Speaker 1: But it's so original. It's not even the same characters.
Speaker 2: It's not the same characters. It's dated February eighteenth, nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty seven. And let me tell you the shocker. What
Speaker 2: I didn't remember is that the characters have completely different names.
Speaker 2: So I auditioned not for DJ, but for the role
Speaker 2: of Jennifer because DJ was originally Jennifer and Uncle Jesse
Speaker 2: was an uncle Jesse, he was Uncle Adam. Did you like,
Speaker 2: do you remember this? Do you remember?
Speaker 1: How weirdly I do you do? When I saw that script,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, that's right. But then
Speaker 1: I'm also like, wait, maybe am I remembering Jeff telling
Speaker 1: the story that it was uncle at Like I remember
Speaker 1: Jeff talking about some of the changes in the names.
Speaker 1: But one thing I do not think that that we've
Speaker 1: ever talked about was that the Tanners weren't originally the Tanners.
Speaker 2: This is mind blowing, This is mind boing.
Speaker 1: Is huge.
Speaker 2: We were gonna be the cross words like it just
Speaker 2: it doesn't hit the same way.
Speaker 1: It doesn't. It doesn't we know Stephanie craw the.
Speaker 2: Crawford's growing up. No, it's not the same. No, Like
Speaker 2: this show never would have been a hit if no,
Speaker 2: in the Crawfords instead of the Tanners.
Speaker 1: It was a necessary change. The Tanners made it happen.
Speaker 2: I agree. Well, the character descriptions are still very correct.
Speaker 2: Like they describe Stephanie as five years old, dreams of
Speaker 2: being a ballerina, a sweet, happy little charmer who already
Speaker 2: knows how to use what she has to get what
Speaker 2: she wants. Oh that's that's that's pretty accurate.
Speaker 1: It's it's stakely description of a manipulative little child. No,
Speaker 1: not at this, not yet, not yet. But you showed
Speaker 1: me that the other day, and Big big thank you
Speaker 1: to your mom keeping everything.
Speaker 2: God bless Sherry Barber. Yeah, she kept every little thing
Speaker 2: like it's just and it brings up so many feelings
Speaker 2: for me. Like in pencil written here is like the
Speaker 2: page number that I have to turn to because that's
Speaker 2: where the lines were that I had to read during
Speaker 2: the audition. So page twelve and thirteen, page thirty nine
Speaker 2: through forty one, those are the scenes I read for
Speaker 2: my audition for Jennifer who turned into DJ.
Speaker 1: So anyways, ye fun little fact. Can you imagine there
Speaker 1: you as no you were now.
Speaker 2: Show would have failed like it was always meant to
Speaker 2: be Kimmy Gibler yea, and us was always meant to
Speaker 2: be DJ this.
Speaker 1: It couldn't have happened any other way.
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1: But here's to the Crawfords, the family that almost was.
Speaker 1: You know, they also weren't allowed to have wire hangers
Speaker 1: in their house. But that's what I was. Okay, I
Speaker 1: was there.
Speaker 2: This is this is but the spirit of Bob Saggatt
Speaker 2: lives on through you and your inappropriate humor. Jody, let's
Speaker 2: jump right in. We've gotten past these opening credits. We
Speaker 2: are now inside the house. We are in the Tanner
Speaker 2: living room. Danny enters the house with DJ and Stephanie
Speaker 2: in his trying to help his mother leave. Grandma says
Speaker 2: the baby is sleeping like a baby, and then says,
Speaker 2: oh my angels and squats down while the while DJ
Speaker 2: and Stephanie go running into her arms. Dy, tell me
Speaker 2: what you remember about this scene or your wardrobe, or
Speaker 2: your co stars or anything. What do you remember?
Speaker 1: So what I vividly remember is there's a part in
Speaker 1: this scene where you know, Danny's trying to get his
Speaker 1: mom out the door. The girls don't want her to leave,
Speaker 1: so they keep kind of like doing this rotating hugging thing.
Speaker 1: They're hugging her. Danny moves them and they go back
Speaker 1: and up, so she goes out onto the front porch,
Speaker 1: and there's a moment where I grab Grandma and I
Speaker 1: won't let her go. I'm like hugging her around her neck,
Speaker 1: and Danny picks up my legs and I'm like he's,
Speaker 1: you know, holding like the back of me, and then
Speaker 1: I'm my arms are wrapped around Grandma. I remember that,
Speaker 1: so like I remember that moment.
Speaker 2: It's such a great sight gag, by the way, It's
Speaker 2: it's such a great it's such a great site gag
Speaker 2: and was always such a wonderful moment because that was
Speaker 2: the thing that I remembered most.
Speaker 1: About that first episode. And then also, you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of Fuller House, I walked back in the door,
Speaker 1: and I think I hugged Bob walked in, and so
Speaker 1: it was just kind of a neat, like full circle
Speaker 1: moment in that. But yeah, I remember, you know, being
Speaker 1: like strung, you know, across the double wide doors, you know,
Speaker 1: hanging just hanging around, And yeah, it was I remember
Speaker 1: that moment. The little blue overalls, curly hair.
Speaker 2: So cute, so cute, the curly hair, I was, the
Speaker 2: pink hair clips.
Speaker 1: The yep yeap, the sponge rollers, the blue overalls.
Speaker 2: Did you get to pick out your wardrobe? Like, how
Speaker 2: do you remember if you had a say in your
Speaker 2: wardrobe or was it all?
Speaker 1: I mean, it was kind of picked for me, but
Speaker 1: I and I was like I didn't really, I was like, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't really I wasn't really too picky about,
Speaker 1: you know, clothing or anything like that. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure I know that you that Kimmy Gibler's clothes were
Speaker 1: that's all. That's a, Oh, that's a little struggle, that's
Speaker 1: a whole We're not going to get into that yet.
Speaker 2: There's time. We got one hundred and ninety one more
Speaker 2: to go, so we'll get to the Kimmy Gibler clothes.
Speaker 1: Yes, but I remember, I remember that moment, and I
Speaker 1: remember Grandma, you know, she leaves and Danny saying like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna have fun or what. And it's
Speaker 1: just like weren't you know? And crossing to the couch.
Speaker 1: And one thing that I noticed is that there were
Speaker 1: two couches. Yes, and I couch got there were two couches.
Speaker 2: Because later on it's like two ottomans eight.
Speaker 1: Think for a while that later on was two chairs,
Speaker 1: those two blue chairs. But at first it was the couch.
Speaker 1: And I think it became like such a pain to
Speaker 1: move in and out and like for shots and stuff
Speaker 1: and you know whatever. But I remember that, like now,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's right, there were two couches.
Speaker 2: I completely forgot about that.
Speaker 1: Where's the other couch? What happened? Who has the other couch?
Speaker 2: I bet John Stamos has both of them.
Speaker 1: Right there, But yeah, it's got us back up, a
Speaker 1: backup couch.
Speaker 2: You gotta have a backup couch because it's so so iconic. Okay,
Speaker 2: So Danny takes turns pulling the girls off of Grandma
Speaker 2: and a really funny sight gag, saying, you know, Grandma
Speaker 2: really needs to go, and then Grandma says Danny, I
Speaker 2: don't need to go back home. Danny tells her mom,
Speaker 2: this isn't how we rehearsed it last night. Take a
Speaker 2: walk with me. Dj and Stephanie follow them, but he
Speaker 2: shoots them a look as they run back to the door.
Speaker 2: Danny says she's been taking care of them for three
Speaker 2: months since Danny's wife, Pamela died, and he doesn't know
Speaker 2: how they would have made it without her. But she
Speaker 2: really has to go because his dad needs her to. No,
Speaker 2: this is a very very emotional scene for the first
Speaker 2: scene straight out of the gate for a pilot like me.
Speaker 1: And you've got to set up that the mom's dead.
Speaker 1: You know, you got it.
Speaker 2: I mean it's mom just died three months ago. Like
Speaker 2: this is a family.
Speaker 1: Well, it's gotta be. Yeah, it's gotta be. It's gotta
Speaker 1: be fresh enough that it requires the guys to move in,
Speaker 1: but not so fresh that everyone's just crying and it's
Speaker 1: uncomfortable to watch. So there's a window I think of
Speaker 1: time in sitcoms that is, you know everyone's done grieving
Speaker 1: and uh, and they've moved on relatively quickly.
Speaker 2: It's there's definitely a balance, and I think that Jeff Franklin,
Speaker 2: who wrote the episode, struck it perfectly, like for sure,
Speaker 2: just enough emotion, but not enough that.
Speaker 1: We're all do you just need to know that? It's
Speaker 1: like a yeah, that it's a moment, Like it's a
Speaker 1: sad moment. Why are they so sad that Grandma's leave.
Speaker 1: It's not like she comes every weekend. This was this
Speaker 1: is a big thing. Their life has changed life.
Speaker 2: Yes, your lives have been turned upside down and Grandma
Speaker 2: was there to help you. Yeah, Danny says, he's got
Speaker 2: everything under control and help is moving in today. Grandma says,
Speaker 2: if you need me, I'm on the next plane. He
Speaker 2: hugs her goodbye, and we think that she's about to leave,
Speaker 2: but then she squats down again and says my angels,
Speaker 2: and the girls go running right back into her arms.
Speaker 2: Grandma eventually leaves, and Danny awkwardly says, Okay, are we
Speaker 2: gonna have fun or what the girls make adorable poudy
Speaker 2: faces before Danny asks to see some smiles and says
Speaker 2: that everything is going to work out super great. He
Speaker 2: reveals to the audience that uncle Jesse is moving in
Speaker 2: and so is his best friend Joey. That means Stephanie
Speaker 2: and DJ get the news that they are going to
Speaker 2: be roommates. He asks, isn't that exciting, and Stephanie says
Speaker 2: I can wear all of DJ's clothes, but DJ is
Speaker 2: less enthused, asking do I have to share a room
Speaker 2: with her? Danny tries to convince her it'll be like
Speaker 2: having a slumber party, but she clarifies with only one
Speaker 2: guest who never leaves, which is perfectly delivered by Candace,
Speaker 2: who really really nailed this like preteen moodiness.
Speaker 1: Right, And now that I have two daughters, like they
Speaker 1: would yeah, like I get that, Like they had their
Speaker 1: own rooms and then you'd be like, now you're together,
Speaker 1: and they would have been like, I'm now this isn't happening.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I felt this. I felt this mo moment
Speaker 2: where I was like, yeah, my kids, this would not
Speaker 2: fly with my kids. Should suddenly sharing a room at
Speaker 2: age ten right away?
Speaker 1: Would that go over? Yeah? I poor DJ. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, as a kid like I didn't really you know.
Speaker 1: Now I look back at it, I'm like, oh man,
Speaker 1: DJ's really yeah, you know, got to deal with the
Speaker 1: little sister. Mom's gone, well, and she has that moment
Speaker 1: in the end, Mom does, Mom's gone, Grandma left. I
Speaker 1: don't even have my own room. She moved into the garage.
Speaker 1: We'll get there, we'll get I feel for her.
Speaker 2: I definitely feel for her. In this moment, Uncle Jesse arrives.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, look alive.
Speaker 2: Uncle Jesse is here, and he moves in carrying a
Speaker 2: small duffel, a bike, helmet, and a guitar not in
Speaker 2: a case. So you instantly know, just from this like
Speaker 2: three second entrance, exactly who Uncle Jesse is, because he's
Speaker 2: just he's a rock star. He looks the part, he
Speaker 2: plays the part.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna say something though, if he's riding
Speaker 1: a motorcycle with a guitar not in a case, it's
Speaker 1: a very that's really if you're a rock star, you
Speaker 1: are really treating your equipment pretty poorly. If you're not,
Speaker 1: there's not even a not even a case, a soft case.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you know what happened.
Speaker 1: What if the guitar gets a gravel in it or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just saying I watched that and
Speaker 1: I was like, did you just keep it on your
Speaker 1: back the whole time? I think it was the eighties?
Speaker 1: What do I know?
Speaker 2: Maybe if he drove the motorcycle with one hand and
Speaker 2: was playing the guitar with the This is just one
Speaker 2: of those sitcom things you just want you just have
Speaker 2: to just weigh your hand.
Speaker 1: I ask far too many logical questions sometimes for my
Speaker 1: own good.
Speaker 2: You can't say on a sitcom if you ask too
Speaker 2: many specific questions.
Speaker 1: That's It's true. It's true. You know what's funny, though,
Speaker 1: is the second you meet Uncle Jesse. I was like,
Speaker 1: I did not remember John's character being so harsh.
Speaker 2: He was very bold, like he has very like yeah,
Speaker 2: and I had energy walking into this.
Speaker 1: Scene, and I, yeah, that's like the setup for the
Speaker 1: and and you know, it's also who he kind of
Speaker 1: becomes in as a member of the family and all
Speaker 1: this stuff. So even really Uncle Jesse goes on quite
Speaker 1: a journey starting where he does. But yeah, I just
Speaker 1: remembered he came in and I remember he Bob and
Speaker 1: John at first did not like John was not here
Speaker 1: for Bob's fooling around, and Bob was like, John's taking
Speaker 1: this way too seriously, and they'd like they did not
Speaker 1: get along.
Speaker 2: Okay, I remember this rumor.
Speaker 1: This is a rumor, so this is true that.
Speaker 2: John's absolutely they've yeah, get along at first.
Speaker 1: They've talked about it that they did not, that they
Speaker 1: did not get along like at first, and they couldn't
Speaker 1: stand each other and they annoyed each other and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. And I remember sort of the
Speaker 1: like the tension. It was like you know, oh, because
Speaker 1: it was I just remember like John coming also from
Speaker 1: like soap opera world too, so it was shooting twenty
Speaker 1: some odd pages a day, like you you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like you've got to get the work done,
Speaker 1: and boss, you know, stand up, and and he was like,
Speaker 1: let's just fun and goof around, and you know. So
Speaker 1: I think those two working styles really came into conflict
Speaker 1: in the beginning, but then you know, by by the
Speaker 1: end they were literal brothers and absolutely loved each other.
Speaker 1: But it was, yeah, did not did not start off
Speaker 1: that way, and it it's a testament to to Bob
Speaker 1: and John. Really that they created such a dynamic close
Speaker 1: relationship over the years.
Speaker 2: I love that. I'm glad. I'm glad they worked it
Speaker 2: out because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because again, it could have it. I mean, it
Speaker 1: could have gone side of the Crawfords. Bob and John
Speaker 1: could have hated each other. It could it all so
Speaker 1: many moments.
Speaker 2: This could have gone really sideways. So I'm glad they
Speaker 2: they found some common ground. Yes, Danny asked Jesse where
Speaker 2: he was because he missed breakfast, and he tells Danny
Speaker 2: that after his gig at the Smash Club, our first
Speaker 2: mention of the Smash Club, the.
Speaker 1: Smash Club before Jesse owned it, though, yes, when he
Speaker 1: was just playing there.
Speaker 2: Prior to Jesse owning it. Jesse took a ride on
Speaker 2: his Harley and ended up in Reno. He happened to
Speaker 2: wander into this show called Razzle Dazzle eighty seven, which
Speaker 2: was much better than Razzle Dazzle eighty six, by the way,
Speaker 2: where he locked eyes with an incredible show girl named Vanessa.
Speaker 2: Danny starts to get nervous about where this story is
Speaker 2: going as he notices the girls are taking in every
Speaker 2: word Uncle Jesse says and stops him in front of
Speaker 2: the girls, right before he gets a little too descriptive
Speaker 2: about what Vanessa was starving for. Now, this was a
Speaker 2: little racy, right, like this is like, yeah, full House
Speaker 2: the family comedy, Like, oh well, that's the windows.
Speaker 1: R House the family Comedy was almost not Full House.
Speaker 1: Originally was a story about three comics.
Speaker 2: That's right, House of Comics.
Speaker 1: Originally House House of Comics. And really the show that
Speaker 1: Jeff wrote was about these three guys, and I think
Speaker 1: the kids may have been in it, but not as
Speaker 1: significantly as you know, wand up being a family sitcom,
Speaker 1: but that the the sort of general direction I think
Speaker 1: of what Jeff had originally envisioned before it became Full
Speaker 1: House was more of a like a buddy comedy between
Speaker 1: these three guys and sort of their dating life and
Speaker 1: single dads and you know, dealing with kids and whatever.
Speaker 1: But that was I think kind of more of the
Speaker 1: more of the the vibe of it. And so I
Speaker 1: think we see still see like a little bit of
Speaker 1: some of those holdovers in some of the characters, especially
Speaker 1: in the first episode and the first couple episodes.
Speaker 2: I think I'm so eager to get Jeff on the
Speaker 2: show and ask him these questions about the origin story
Speaker 2: of the show, and yeah, because I remember I remember
Speaker 2: him talking about how he changed the entire idea of
Speaker 2: the show from House of Comics during the pitch meeting,
Speaker 2: I believe because they were.
Speaker 1: Like, what do you have more of that's family, and
Speaker 1: he was like, I've got this, and he just made
Speaker 1: it into Yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Just created it on the spot, which is funny because
Speaker 2: Jeff is like, he's never been married, he doesn't have
Speaker 2: any kids, like he's not really a family.
Speaker 1: Guess why he wrote a show about three comedians and
Speaker 1: not family. Right, It's like, okay, I'll try it, but
Speaker 1: he had to pivot very quickly.
Speaker 2: And created one of the most iconic family shows of
Speaker 2: all time.
Speaker 1: Speaking of pivoting, my ballet skills really come to the
Speaker 1: forefront of this scene because I apparently all Steph wants
Speaker 1: to do is just play Ballerina, very persistent.
Speaker 2: It's very persistent. Stephanie wants to play ballerina with Uncle Jesse,
Speaker 2: but he says he doesn't want to play, but she
Speaker 2: nags him and eventually guilts him into it with her
Speaker 2: sad face, which was an excellent sad face of rubbing
Speaker 2: your eyes like you were talking.
Speaker 1: I couldn't write. I was either just really tired, I
Speaker 1: had an allergy attack, something metal shard in my eye,
Speaker 1: or I was fading crying.
Speaker 2: Well, the couch was very dusty. I mean, at least
Speaker 2: in Fuller House got it. But it was a dust
Speaker 2: from one of the two platforms.
Speaker 1: It was. I had severe allergies as a child, That's
Speaker 1: what it was. But I also that's what I do
Speaker 1: when I throw a fit. You've seen it before Andry,
Speaker 1: I do it all the time. No, I don't want
Speaker 1: to record the bag right, And that's what works.
Speaker 2: Well. It works. It's very effective.
Speaker 1: It's never failed up until now.
Speaker 2: So Jesse and Stephanie play ballerina. He asks how they
Speaker 2: play ballerina and she says they dance, and then she
Speaker 2: instructs him on how to twirl on his tiptoes before
Speaker 2: telling him he needs to practice because they're going to
Speaker 2: do this every single day. Jesse is not impressed.
Speaker 1: Obviously, he doesn't want to be a professional dancer because
Speaker 1: that's what it takes. It takes every day.
Speaker 2: Were you into ballet as a child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. Yes, I was a big dancer. That
Speaker 1: was part of the reason why they've written for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I loved dancing. That was like how I kind of
Speaker 1: got into performing really was dance recitals and I loved
Speaker 1: being up on stage and doing all that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they really wrote some of the parts of Steph around
Speaker 1: things that were actually true of me. So it was
Speaker 1: it was great because I got to you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously my ballet skills.
Speaker 2: Were top match, so they were so cute.
Speaker 1: They were I was. I was. I was a member
Speaker 1: of the Young Geoffrey Ballet at that point, evidenced by
Speaker 1: my tiptoeing around the living room.
Speaker 2: It was so cute, you had it was really for
Speaker 2: a five year old.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was fantastic. I was, I was cute.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have said no to me playing ballerina.
Speaker 2: Well, but we had to establish that Jesse was not
Speaker 2: exactly you know, super fond of kids was a learning
Speaker 2: experience for him. Next we have Joey who arrives completely
Speaker 2: covered by a huge pile of clothes and doing a
Speaker 2: signature Dave trumpet horned sound. Oh that was good. I
Speaker 2: was debating if I should try to recreate it, and
Speaker 2: I was like, no, that.
Speaker 1: Would not I have you never really even tried to
Speaker 1: do that before, and I just went for it in
Speaker 1: the moment. I was like, try it, what's the worst
Speaker 1: that could happen? And nailed it. Now I'm not gonna no,
Speaker 1: it's diminishing return.
Speaker 2: Now it's getting weird. Okay, No, Day would be very
Speaker 2: proud of you. Danny takes the clothes from Joey, revealing
Speaker 2: that Joey is wearing a very loud, cartoon buttoned down
Speaker 2: shirt and this is like, this is so Joey Gladstone,
Speaker 2: Like you just instantly know he's just like one big kid.
Speaker 1: It was. It was like they weren't they weren't Hawaiian
Speaker 1: shirts necessarily. They were just loud.
Speaker 2: They were very loud and kid like. Yeah, and you're
Speaker 2: just like, okay, I can't take this guy seriously because
Speaker 2: he's wearing this loud not Hawaiian, but Hawaiian.
Speaker 1: Were those Was that a thing? I don't was? I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously they were readily available at stores. Were people walking
Speaker 1: around wearing these sorts of shirts?
Speaker 2: Maybe not in public?
Speaker 1: No, okay, okay, I just I wasn't sure. I don't
Speaker 1: remember even what was on the shirts particularly. I tried
Speaker 1: to look on like when as I was watching the show,
Speaker 1: what was on there, but I didn't tell. Was it Popeye?
Speaker 2: It's hard to tell. No, I think might make it
Speaker 2: out either. I just could instantly not thought shirt I
Speaker 2: got it, Sure he did. I'm sure it was in
Speaker 2: his his pile of dirty clothes that he was carrying.
Speaker 1: Right, and Nothing says, I've chosen the right person to
Speaker 1: help me look after my children. Then someone who can't
Speaker 1: do laundry and is living in an alcove us, you
Speaker 1: know it's right.
Speaker 2: And and Joey says, he's say.
Speaker 1: And someone who doesn't even keep their guitar in a case,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And those are not the people.
Speaker 2: These aren't the most reliable people that Danny has chosen.
Speaker 2: But that's that's that's the gag. That's part of the joke.
Speaker 2: The joke has to work.
Speaker 1: The joke has to work.
Speaker 2: So Joey comments, Wow, you know, I'm so lucky. I'm
Speaker 2: moving into a new place on the exact day that
Speaker 2: I run out of clean clothes, and that's wonderful. And
Speaker 2: then you get this great shot of Bob who quickly
Speaker 2: drops all of the clothes on the floor and everyone
Speaker 2: slowly backs away from the clothes. Fantastic I'm not totally
Speaker 2: clear at this point if Jesse and Joey have moved
Speaker 2: in as a favor to Danny or if they're there
Speaker 2: for the free rent.
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't sort of one shaking the hand with
Speaker 1: the other, you know what I mean, Like, I mean, sure,
Speaker 1: I'll do this favor for you, but I'm also like
Speaker 1: getting free rent. So it's kind of working out for
Speaker 1: both of us.
Speaker 2: You got to match my back all scratch yours. Is
Speaker 2: it one of those situations?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's I mean, it sounds you know,
Speaker 1: and then and then then they got trapped and they
Speaker 1: never left and they for eight years, for eight years, right, yes, right?
Speaker 1: I mean, who'd want to move out of an alcove?
Speaker 2: You know? The alcove? The alcove was a very attractive
Speaker 2: option for Joey.
Speaker 1: I had never heard, I think until I was the
Speaker 1: word alcove until that show, until full out like as
Speaker 1: a kid, and then I like, I just had this
Speaker 1: idea in my head that all San Francisco homes had
Speaker 1: what was apparently a standard feature of an alcove.
Speaker 2: I wonder if this is a San Francisco thing. Remember
Speaker 2: Holmes having alcoves in the eighties.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the full House house when we actually
Speaker 1: went in, it fit an alcove in there where you're
Speaker 1: gonna fit an alcove the whole first four There's no
Speaker 1: one's having alcoves in most of these San Francisco skinny houses. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: I'd never heard of an alcove. The alcove is is
Speaker 1: Apparently it's like a little half cave in under the stairs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sort of.
Speaker 1: I have an alcove in my house now, you do, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that little under you know, the little understair like.
Speaker 2: The yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's nice.
Speaker 1: I don't think Joey could live there.
Speaker 2: So Full House made alcoves popular, it did, maybe it
Speaker 2: did it?
Speaker 1: Really, it revitalized the alcove industry, it's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So Joey moves into the large alcove in the back
Speaker 2: of the living room and says that there is no
Speaker 2: way all of his stuff is going to fit in
Speaker 2: this room. Danny corrects him and says this isn't a
Speaker 2: tiny room, it's a large alcove, and that he will
Speaker 2: be he will be living in it for free. Suddenly
Speaker 2: Joey says this room is enormous. Then Joey tells the
Speaker 2: girls that they are going to have so much fun
Speaker 2: together before doing a lot of signature Dave Coolier sound effects,
Speaker 2: including Popeye and a laser.
Speaker 1: DJ Haser, that's right, he was, Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: DJ asks Danny if he thinks is there any chance
Speaker 2: they could still catch Grandma at the airport, which is
Speaker 2: a great button to this entire scene, which is a
Speaker 2: very very long scene for the cold open of the pilot,
Speaker 2: Like this scene just goes on, well.
Speaker 1: There was a lot. It goes on only half the
Speaker 1: length of the opening credits though, No, it is a
Speaker 1: it's a very long scene.
Speaker 2: But you got a lot of things to establish.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of exposition that needs to happen. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's you know, you can't the nuance in a in
Speaker 1: a thirty minute sitcom is minimal. So you've got to
Speaker 1: explain Mom's gone, Dad needs help, Grandma leaving, kids are
Speaker 1: unh happy, Jesse's a rock star, and Joey's an idiot,
Speaker 1: well not an idiot, but like a just a mess,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Same thing.
Speaker 1: So it takes it takes a fair amount of pages
Speaker 1: to cover all of those six or seven very important topics.
Speaker 2: And can we talk for a minute, because I'm betting
Speaker 2: that there are hundreds of people out there that have
Speaker 2: seen this episode or all a full house and still
Speaker 2: don't kind of understand the relations like who these people are,
Speaker 2: like the relationships.
Speaker 1: So I Jesse, I don't think very often that the
Speaker 1: writers sometimes did or you know what I mean, because
Speaker 1: we kind of went, oh, that's right, we're actually all related.
Speaker 2: So Jesse, uncle Jesse is your uncle. He but he's
Speaker 2: not related to Danny Tanner.
Speaker 1: No, he's pamel Imla's brother.
Speaker 2: Brother, that's right, right, So he's the he's Danny's.
Speaker 1: Brother, Danny's he's Danny's brother in law who starts off
Speaker 1: the show not Greek with the last name of Cochrane,
Speaker 1: which gets changed very quick, gets changed pretty quickly, and
Speaker 1: we'll cover that. But but yeah, he starts off as
Speaker 1: as Cochrane, then becomes Greeker, even though Steph and dj
Speaker 1: and Michelle are look nothing like that side of the
Speaker 1: family because we've also met, like we at some point
Speaker 1: we meet the other Greek family and uh, yeah, apparently
Speaker 1: Pam maybe Pam was adopted, maybe Pam was you know,
Speaker 1: let's go with that. Let's go with that because it's yeah,
Speaker 1: I've seen some of the parents and it's just it's
Speaker 1: a strange. So it's an interesting match up there, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Well, but anyway, but that's how
Speaker 1: technically the family tree is drawn.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Jesse is Danny's brother in law and Joey,
Speaker 2: even though people commonly call him Uncle Joey, he's not,
Speaker 2: in fact an uncle.
Speaker 1: He is not an uncle, nor has I'm gonna debate
Speaker 1: this fact because people always say, oh, what about Uncle Joey.
Speaker 1: I'm like, and I'm the first to I'm like, actually,
Speaker 1: you know made him minute, Actually he was. He's not
Speaker 1: an uncle, and we never called him Uncle Joey.
Speaker 2: Right, even more importantly, yes, but.
Speaker 1: They did on fuller The younger kids, I think started
Speaker 1: calling him uncle Joey because I remember having this, this
Speaker 1: this discussion I think it notes and being like, but
Speaker 1: he's not an uncle. He's not. We never called him
Speaker 1: Uncle Joey. Maybe it's one of those, you know, sort
Speaker 1: of by association. He's become an uncle over time. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he can't be. I'm not saying I am
Speaker 1: opposed to his membership as an honorary uncle. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I don't think we ever called him Uncle Joey.
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. This is a sticky scene for
Speaker 2: me as well.
Speaker 1: In our rewatch if we see it happen and there's
Speaker 1: some mention of uncle Joey. But if we get to
Speaker 1: all one hundred and ninety two episodes and he has
Speaker 1: not been called Uncle Joey, I'm gonna feel vindicated.
Speaker 2: Absolutely Well. We've got a long ways to go until
Speaker 2: we get to that moment, but I.
Speaker 1: Look it's gonna be I'm gonna have to wait at
Speaker 1: that moment.
Speaker 2: Okay. So the next scene, we have finally finished the
Speaker 2: cold open, and we are now upstairs in Uncle Jesse
Speaker 2: What is now Uncle Jesse's room. Danny and Jesse walk
Speaker 2: into the room. This is formerly Stephanie's room, so it is.
Speaker 2: The room is baby blue. It is covered in pink bunnies.
Speaker 2: There is tiny furniture and ballet slippers on the wall.
Speaker 2: Jesse says, oh, Barbie's dream house would look great near
Speaker 2: the window.
Speaker 1: Right, which is in that original script. By the way,
Speaker 1: remember we were looking at it the other day and
Speaker 1: I said that line is in the original show.
Speaker 2: That joke stat right through all the name changes that joke,
Speaker 2: state that joke, state.
Speaker 1: That joke worked. But the pig bunnies are actually a
Speaker 1: very important story. Oh, they don't think are necessarily discussed
Speaker 1: in this episode. I think it comes a little bit later, baby.
Speaker 1: But the pink bunnies were apparently handcut out by Steph's mom,
Speaker 1: by Pamela and put in her room.
Speaker 2: Oh watch, that.
Speaker 1: Was the story of the pink bunnies.
Speaker 2: So that's why they left the pink bunnies.
Speaker 1: That was why they left the pink bunnies up.
Speaker 2: Well, Jesse's not a fan, unfortunately, he's not sentimental.
Speaker 1: And then eventually he gives a framed one to Michelle.
Speaker 1: They weren't even her pink bunnies. That wasn't even her room. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we'll get there, we'll get there. I've got there, pages.
Speaker 1: There are we resentful of that, Jodie Sweeten, are we? Okay?
Speaker 2: You got you got notes up pages.
Speaker 1: But that was the story of the pink bunnies, so
Speaker 1: that was why they were there. But no, Jesse was
Speaker 1: not exactly feeling the vibe of pink bunnies in Ballet.
Speaker 2: He's very anti kid in this whole episode, which we'll
Speaker 2: get to that, Okay, Jesse starts to unpack his two
Speaker 2: things on hangers while Danny gets emotional, saying how much
Speaker 2: he appreciates him being there. Danny tells him the girls
Speaker 2: are so happy to have him here. Danny hugs Jesse
Speaker 2: tightly and says God bless you, and Jesse says, you
Speaker 2: are hugging me in a room with pink bunnies.
Speaker 1: Which here's one of those jokes that you yeah, there's
Speaker 1: the not so thinly veiled sort of omophobic jokes of
Speaker 1: the eighties, But you know it's I think it's I
Speaker 1: think it was also more that, like Jesse was just
Speaker 1: not emotional and Danny was emotional, and that was I think,
Speaker 1: you know, the hugging thing, right.
Speaker 2: This joke bumped me too. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: not like men being uncomfortable with hugging other men. That's
Speaker 2: not funny anymore. So this this joke didn't hold up.
Speaker 1: I mean it was, yeah, it was. I really I
Speaker 1: feel like Jesse, he's got a lot, he's got some
Speaker 1: emotional growing to do, some work, you know, like to
Speaker 1: see him really discuss some of these feelings about why
Speaker 1: he's so you know, averse to being hugged in a
Speaker 1: room with big bunnies.
Speaker 2: He's a tough guy. He's very much into proving how
Speaker 2: tough of a guy.
Speaker 1: That he is, right with his three shirts. Right.
Speaker 2: So Danny breaks away from the hug and says, you know, sorry,
Speaker 2: I am just a lean, mean hugging machine. Now I
Speaker 2: want to talk about this hugging bit for a bit
Speaker 2: because it wasn't this originally written because there, okay, Bob said,
Speaker 2: it wasn't the original Danny Tanner either.
Speaker 1: No, no, he was not the original Danny Tanner. John
Speaker 1: Posey was the original Danny Tanner, and we shot a
Speaker 1: pilot episode with John Posey, which I think people can
Speaker 1: it's out there somewhere on you know, YouTube or whatever,
Speaker 1: and it's I think it's in like some of the
Speaker 1: extended DVD cuts. But yeah, Bob was not the original
Speaker 1: Danny Tanner. It was John Posey. Bob was doing another show,
Speaker 1: and then through again a series of things that happened
Speaker 1: and unfolded, and Bob got fired or not fired, but
Speaker 1: was no longer on the morning show that he was doing,
Speaker 1: so his schedule opened up. But the only reason that
Speaker 1: they knew about it was because Dave and Bob had
Speaker 1: like lived together when they were young and they had
Speaker 1: were still friends, and so when Dave heard that Bob
Speaker 1: was available, he told Jeff or something like it was
Speaker 1: some sort of like random again happening of how we
Speaker 1: all wound up in the right place at the right
Speaker 1: time and we actually went and reshot the pilot with Bob.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you remember shooting scenes with John Posey?
Speaker 1: I remember, like the first scene, I think, just because
Speaker 1: that first scene was so memorable and iconic for me
Speaker 1: as like a kid and an actor, and you know,
Speaker 1: I remember shooting it with John Posey, But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I he was just there for one episode.
Speaker 1: Lovely man, very sweet, very It wasn't ever like a
Speaker 1: you know, personality thing. It just right. He Bob, I think,
Speaker 1: was who Jeff had always wanted, and it just was
Speaker 1: a scheduling thing. And then when it kind of resolved itself,
Speaker 1: it Bob Bob came in and he was Danny Tanner
Speaker 1: with his wonderful hugs.
Speaker 2: So I feel like this joke is kind of a
Speaker 2: holdover from when Posey was in the pilot, because Posey
Speaker 2: was more of like a Teddy Bear build, like he
Speaker 2: was like a huggable, shorter huggable guy, and you know
Speaker 2: he wasn't this tall long.
Speaker 1: Green saying only short people are huggble in? Are you
Speaker 1: just saying I have a lot of emails about that.
Speaker 2: I feel like this it's a person If hugging is
Speaker 2: going to be a personality trait, you know, you have
Speaker 2: to look huggable. And I feel like maybe John Posey
Speaker 2: looked more huggable and that's why that was written in
Speaker 2: and it just carried over when Bob became.
Speaker 1: I don't don't. I think that's just your own. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can, you can build that story out if you'd
Speaker 1: like the story that John looked more huggled. So basically
Speaker 1: the story is John was more huggable. That's what you've
Speaker 1: told yourself. That's what I told was more.
Speaker 2: Hug origin of the hugging, hugging personality, you know what.
Speaker 1: I I don't know the actual origin because I am
Speaker 1: not Jeff Franklin, so he he would know that. But
Speaker 1: I think it was. I mean, I remember John Posey
Speaker 1: being that. I seem to remember it being just that
Speaker 1: that was kind of the juxtaposition between like Jesse and
Speaker 1: Joey and Danny, was that Danny was the emotional hugger
Speaker 1: family guy. Jesse was the like rock and roll bro,
Speaker 1: and then you know, Joey was just kind of this
Speaker 1: looney on most childlike person himself. So I think it
Speaker 1: was that was part of who Danny Tanner was. But
Speaker 1: if you want to make it that, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: John Posey was more huggable. I mean, we can tell
Speaker 1: that story too if you'd like.
Speaker 2: Well, everybody, so everyone email us and give us your opinions, Like,
Speaker 2: tell us what you think was Bob Sagga he was
Speaker 2: a very huggable guy. But I'm you know, he was
Speaker 2: very told.
Speaker 1: I think it was just part of the character. But
Speaker 1: we can you know, again, we could choose your own adventure.
Speaker 1: We can create whatever we want.
Speaker 2: And when Jeff Franklin is on the show, we will
Speaker 2: actually ask him this question. And that was all of
Speaker 2: these rumors.
Speaker 1: John Posey more huggable than Bob. Is that on the record.
Speaker 1: That's the debate, right, that's the question.
Speaker 2: So finally we see Jesse get more emotional. He says,
Speaker 2: you know, Pam was my big sister. He loved her
Speaker 2: very much, and he loved he loves the kids. He
Speaker 2: is happy to do whatever Danny needs him to do,
Speaker 2: which is a great moment.
Speaker 1: Was this I thought I wrote it down. No, it
Speaker 1: was at the end where we hear the first strings
Speaker 1: of the.
Speaker 2: Viol Oh that comes later. I don't think they were.
Speaker 1: Vital they were, no, but it was definitely a more
Speaker 1: quiet moment. But I but this this the first strings
Speaker 1: of the violin are played at the end of this episode.
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I can't wait for that.
Speaker 1: I can't wait.
Speaker 2: So Danny once again gets emotional and hugs him again,
Speaker 2: and Jesse says he's gonna need to regulate this hugging.
Speaker 2: So again this joke, Yeah, this, These jokes were supposed
Speaker 2: to be funny at the time.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be funny at the time. Now it's
Speaker 1: not funny. But I'm also I'll try and give benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt here. Celia, my best friend does not
Speaker 1: like to be hugged. Oh okay, and a room of
Speaker 1: pink bunnies or otherwise she's just not a big hugger.
Speaker 2: So I respect that.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Jesse, it's not so much the it's you
Speaker 1: know that, not that he's problematic in that regard, but that,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he just is not. Maybe he's just
Speaker 1: a little he's a little overstimulated, doesn't really want to
Speaker 1: be hugged at that moment.
Speaker 2: I fully respect that's probably it was probably.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with that, but that's probab
Speaker 1: probably not true. It was definitely veiled inappropriate sort of
Speaker 1: jokes in the eighties.
Speaker 2: But we're coming to respect each other's boundaries and wishes,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, awesome. Okay, next scene, we
Speaker 2: are finally in DJ and Stephanie's room, which is such
Speaker 2: a cool room. There is like bangles posters on the wall.
Speaker 2: There is a giants pendant, so you know exactly where
Speaker 2: you are. We're in San Francisco. I just thought this
Speaker 2: was the coolest room.
Speaker 1: The red DJ's red metal bed bed, like the geometric
Speaker 1: wallpaper and.
Speaker 2: The matching bed spread and pillows.
Speaker 1: They were fantastic with her pillow. Person. Oh yeah, first
Speaker 1: time we see the person, we see the pier and
Speaker 1: I have to say, I'm holding like a stuffed dog,
Speaker 1: a stuffed Golden Retriever by the way, but a stuffed dog.
Speaker 1: In the scene, mister Bear is nowhere to be found.
Speaker 2: No, this this is pre mister Bear.
Speaker 1: Speaking of this is that's the original mister bear sitting
Speaker 1: right here behind me. That is in the background of
Speaker 1: my shot. But that's the original mister bear. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he was not in the pilot. I was a little
Speaker 1: I was shocked.
Speaker 2: Actually, So do you think the little the little dog
Speaker 2: you were carrying was supposed to be like a little
Speaker 2: a little I think a comet.
Speaker 1: We didn't have comment yet. Oh, you didn't have comment yet.
Speaker 1: Have we have comment yet? This is foreshadowing. Its foreshadowing
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So DJ starts to lay down some roommate ground rules
Speaker 2: while pulling a streamer down the middle of the room
Speaker 2: to divide it in half. Rule number one, don't touch
Speaker 2: my stuff. Rule number two, don't set foot on my
Speaker 2: side of the room. And since the door of the
Speaker 2: room is on DJ side, Stephanie wants to know how
Speaker 2: she'll ever get out, and DJ says it's easy, jump
Speaker 2: out the window and climb down the tree. Stephanie doesn't
Speaker 2: want to do that, so she says she will find
Speaker 2: another way out, and then starts to climb on the curtains.
Speaker 1: Oh and here where we run into one of the
Speaker 1: first things that you can no longer do with television
Speaker 1: or with children on television, which is suspend them more
Speaker 1: than six inches off the ground in a stunt harness.
Speaker 2: But this is one of the most iconic moments in
Speaker 2: the entire episode. And I am so excited to hear, Okay,
Speaker 2: exactly how you did this stunt? Like it doesn't look
Speaker 2: exactly natural, I would say, but tell me how they
Speaker 2: did this.
Speaker 1: So it was there basically was like a it was
Speaker 1: sort of like a rock climbing harness, right, okay, with
Speaker 1: wires attached to either side. So it was almost like
Speaker 1: a really uncomfortable looking bathing suit bottom that was like
Speaker 1: you know those those swings at the park for babes. Yes,
Speaker 1: that are like the plastic hard things, and you stick
Speaker 1: their legs in wearing that under your clothes. It's so comfortable,
Speaker 1: doesn't pinch, you know, not at all restricting anyway. So
Speaker 1: and of course they don't exactly make these like for
Speaker 1: kid sizes, you know what I mean, They're not there's
Speaker 1: so they have to kind of adjust it and do
Speaker 1: it as a whole like fittings with meetings with the
Speaker 1: stunt people and all this stuff. And you know, this
Speaker 1: was my first like big I mean, I'd done one
Speaker 1: episode of television before, so I was like, I didn't
Speaker 1: know I need this worked, So I was like okay,
Speaker 1: and I loved it. I was always up for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was a kid that was always up for like
Speaker 1: some silly, crazy adventure. I will say though, it was
Speaker 1: a little uncomfortable, definitely pinched certain places when you're hanging
Speaker 1: in the thing and being supported. And one thing that
Speaker 1: you see as I'm so believably crawling across the curtains
Speaker 1: hand overhand is that the curtains are just slapping me
Speaker 1: in the face right like they're just I can't see.
Speaker 1: I'm like, if you look at my face in the thing,
Speaker 1: it's hilarious because obviously I'm like, I'm my eyes are closed,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm like, how this child
Speaker 1: is climbing across the curtains with her eyes closed and
Speaker 1: curtains smacking her in the face. And it was dusty
Speaker 1: because everything's dusty on a set.
Speaker 2: Everything is dusty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then yeah, and then so I got to
Speaker 1: ride it all the way over and then DJ pulls
Speaker 1: the curtains and I got to like ride it all
Speaker 1: the way back, thus also getting slapped in the face
Speaker 1: the reverse direction with said curtains, but making for really
Speaker 1: really funny and iconic joke, and I mean the best
Speaker 1: joke of the whole thing was they walk in. You know,
Speaker 1: Danny says, Steph, what are you doing? Oh? Just hanging around?
Speaker 2: Yes, that's one of my favorite lines in those whole episode.
Speaker 2: So that your delivery was so perfect on that line
Speaker 2: and so cute and just one of my favorite moments
Speaker 2: in the.
Speaker 1: Whole Well, we start soon seeing that that Steph is
Speaker 1: a little bit of a kind of a snarky smartass,
Speaker 1: which I love. But yeah, the curtains scene is it
Speaker 1: is I vividly, I vividly remember that, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: how often do you get hung from curtains as a child.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Danny gets Stephanie down and Joey comes in,
Speaker 2: singing and acting like he's going to do the limbo
Speaker 2: dance under the room divider.
Speaker 1: It's too low and he can't do it. Do you
Speaker 1: remember Dave used to like just make that noise and
Speaker 1: sing that weird song all the time.
Speaker 2: That jogged a memory for me. Yes, it means you
Speaker 2: it was a Dave creation. I'm sure it was.
Speaker 1: Just like a weird It was again one of those
Speaker 1: Andrea Barber It was just like you he'd walk in
Speaker 1: the room just like shimmying his shoulders just like that,
Speaker 1: and then you were like, Okay, now we're done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was not just a weird Gladstone. That was
Speaker 2: Dave being.
Speaker 1: That was Dave. Yep.
Speaker 2: DJ says sharing a room with Stephanie is already a nightmare,
Speaker 2: and Danny tells her that everything is going to work
Speaker 2: out super great. Danny has to leave to go to
Speaker 2: work at the station where he's doing a two part
Speaker 2: sports report on boxers, highly skilled athletes or bullies in Shorts.
Speaker 2: This is the first time we learned that Danny is
Speaker 2: a sports TV reporter, which in the original early pilot
Speaker 2: script I have he was a weatherman, so that changed.
Speaker 2: Stephanie asked for a piggyback ride and Danny picks her up,
Speaker 2: and he tells Jesse and Joey that the baby's schedule
Speaker 2: is on the fridge and he wants to make sure
Speaker 2: can the guys handle this. The guy's answer that they
Speaker 2: definitely got this, and Danny starts to leave. Stephanie looks
Speaker 2: back at DJ and says.
Speaker 1: I told you I'd find a way out, and DJ
Speaker 1: looks miserable. Yep. Speaking of DJ's suggestion of climbing out
Speaker 1: the window. There's an extra window in that set, or
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just remembering the Fuller one, but there is
Speaker 1: a window next to Steph's bed, and I think at
Speaker 1: some point that went away. Oh and it was just
Speaker 1: the window seat, but fuller house. I thought I could
Speaker 1: be again, I could be wrong. I'm gonna keep watching
Speaker 1: the set because I think we did at some we
Speaker 1: moved sets, and I think changed a couple little things.
Speaker 2: But well, we already know the backyard is a shape
Speaker 2: shifting set, so maybe the bedroom was also somewhat shape
Speaker 2: shifting as well.
Speaker 1: It was all they were. All the entire house was
Speaker 1: shape shifting. It was a Harry Potter spell for sure,
Speaker 1: to fit everyone in that house.
Speaker 2: It was an optical illusion. Yes, yes, Well, you know
Speaker 2: that the pilot is such a major iconic episode that
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to split this into two different recaps.
Speaker 2: So let's wrap up this part one of the pilot
Speaker 2: and make sure that you tune in next time, where
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