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Speaker 1: You're listening to Draftings.

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Speaker 2: Network the John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick

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Speaker 2: and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of them.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear that both the next big.

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Speaker 5: Job there Cooktuffia, Brett Beers.

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Speaker 4: Rock Sucker.

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Speaker 6: I don't believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian's Oh.

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Speaker 7: I'm Gonna be with You Monday, June nineteenth, twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 7: Episode four seventeen of the Anak and Florian Podcast. Hopefully

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Speaker 7: everybody had a nice Father's Day, if that applies. Father's

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Speaker 7: Day is always a sensitive one for me because there

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Speaker 7: are a lot of people out there who are either

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Speaker 7: restraints from their children, a lot of dad's, a lot

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Speaker 7: of moms, of course, but they're a lot of fathers

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Speaker 7: who don't have rights to see their children. And a

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Speaker 7: lot of those fathers are really good dads that have

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Speaker 7: been failed either by cruel spouses or the court system.

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Speaker 7: So to all the dads out there that could not

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Speaker 7: be with their children, I wish you a happy Father's Day,

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Speaker 7: and I hope in the not too distant future you

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Speaker 7: can actually be with your kids. Because I know for

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Speaker 7: me and ken Flow it's our greatest joy and father's

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Speaker 7: rights is just something I'm very passionate about. A couple

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Speaker 7: guys in my wedding I helped dealt with a lot

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Speaker 7: of issues over the year, So I just want to

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Speaker 7: get that out there off the top. Are you in

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Speaker 7: Massachusetts for Father's Day to see long time Anaquin floydan

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Speaker 7: podcast listener Gus Florian or is that not why you're there?

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Speaker 3: I am man.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately did not get a chance to spend time with

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Speaker 5: my kids on Father's Day, but I did spend time

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Speaker 5: with my father on Father's Day, who I haven't seen

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Speaker 5: in a couple of years. So it's been been way

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Speaker 5: too long. I haven't seen my parents in a long time.

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Speaker 5: My mom's coming off of a surgery, so it's been

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Speaker 5: good to see them and catch up with family members

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Speaker 5: that I haven't seen.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, like I said, in a.

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Speaker 5: Couple of years, and it's going to be back into

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Speaker 5: being dude.

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Speaker 7: It's great to have you back in the bean. I

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Speaker 7: feel like we're well represented. And of course later today

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Speaker 7: Florian Martial Arts Center in Brookline, Massachusetts seminar for ken

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Speaker 7: Flow members. It's free, a little bit of a small

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Speaker 7: charge if you were a non member. But I'm not

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Speaker 7: going to dive too deep on that because by the

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Speaker 7: time a lot of you watch and listen to this show,

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Speaker 7: that seminar will have already expired. But Happy Father's Day

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Speaker 7: to doctor Gus Florian, one of the best thracic surgeons

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Speaker 7: this nation has ever seen. And I hope your mom

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Speaker 7: heals up. Now you're in Newton, Massachusetts, and I'm all

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Speaker 7: over the place. I'm at my mom's house today. I'm

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Speaker 7: in the middle of a house renovation. I'm trying to

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Speaker 7: get at and t to the house this week to

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Speaker 7: figure out whether or not I'm going to have an

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Speaker 7: off location studio or actually be at my house.

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Speaker 1: But had I not been on the road today, I was.

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Speaker 7: Going to book your brother Keith Florian, because your face

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Speaker 7: is pretty mangled right now. The lighting in the room

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Speaker 7: you're in isn't great, so we don't see how damas

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Speaker 7: you are. But when you and Keith train, it's always

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Speaker 7: like fucking UFC eighty two all over again. Who got

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Speaker 7: the better of this session last night?

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Speaker 3: Ah, dude, go wit.

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Speaker 5: He said it will be a light training session. He

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Speaker 5: said it would be fine. He said Uh, yeah, dude,

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Speaker 5: it was It was fun. We put the gey on

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Speaker 5: and what started out what started out as hey, let's

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Speaker 5: into just pull out hard training.

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Speaker 3: But it was great. It was great.

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Speaker 5: I I did okay, listen, I got like thirty pounds

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Speaker 5: on Keith right now. Keith like Ben Keith like in shape,

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Speaker 5: But that dude, well not He's like Houdini. I'll get

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Speaker 5: him in a tough spot and they'll find a way

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 1: It's it's so fun to reminisce.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 7: And I was actually talking to h to your good

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Speaker 7: I know he reached out to you about possibly doing

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Speaker 7: stem cell on your back. Actually breaking news for the

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Speaker 7: Anaic and Florian podcast listeners, ken Fall and I might

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Speaker 7: go to Tijuana, Mexico together in December for a week.

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Speaker 1: I have a torn labor HM in my right shoulder.

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Speaker 7: Ken Flow has some back issues, so we might attack

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Speaker 7: that all together and do a live show with Scotti.

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Speaker 7: But we were both sort of professing our love for

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Speaker 7: Keith Flory, and I was sort of joking that he's

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Speaker 7: my favorite Florian because he's just got that feisty edge

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Speaker 7: to him always. And it's just funny that you ended

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Speaker 7: up being with Keith about forty eight hours after I

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Speaker 7: talked to the doctor. But no, Keith was your chief

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Speaker 7: corner for your UFC career, and I have so much

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Speaker 7: respect for Keith. And when I was researching Kenny Florian

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Speaker 7: right we were launching MMA Live at ESPN dot com

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Speaker 7: and I was going to be going to Somerville, Massachusetts

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Speaker 7: So I'm doing research on Kenny Florian and I'm reading

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Speaker 7: about you and Keith on the Matts together in your basement,

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Speaker 7: there was this undeniable kinship between brothers. But then one

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Speaker 7: of the other things I came across when I was

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Speaker 7: this story of when you lived in Brazil, you fell

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Speaker 7: And for the first time two days ago, when I

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Speaker 7: he was there, and he said, you fell off an

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Speaker 1: His life stood still for a moment.

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Speaker 7: He had a momentary pause and he thought, we're in

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Speaker 3: Dude, It literally, that's exactly how it happened.

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Speaker 5: I was, Yeah, it It literally was one of those

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Speaker 5: And yeah, that actually was one of the biggest I mean,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So was that the beginning of your back issues

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Speaker 5: Not not that I know it definitely could have played

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Speaker 7: So yeah, but if you could have seen a thirty

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Speaker 7: And in closing this out, I will just say Scotty

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Speaker 1: But we're happy you're still here. What were you do

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Speaker 5: We we went off the path and it was like,

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Speaker 3: Later, I like, like my whole life changed.

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Speaker 3: I guess and had a few fights.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's amazing.

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Speaker 7: It's an amazing story, and it's funny for me to

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Speaker 7: your death in that moment. Right, last thing, I'll ask

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Speaker 7: the journalist in me wants to do a deep die.

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Speaker 7: But there's so much that happened in the MMA world.

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Speaker 7: Land on that little jut ledge, right, what are you thinking?

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Speaker 1: Like, how do you get off that ledge to safety?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it knocked the wind out of me. I

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Speaker 7: Unlike Oel Romero, you're not fighting at forty six or

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Speaker 5: Dude, it was awesome to see Brian Stan. I haven't

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Speaker 7: Yeah, two hundred and sixty five pounds can come in

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Speaker 7: Francis and Ghana is absolutely a sight to behold. He's

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Speaker 7: In the main event, John Jones's guy, the crochet boss,

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Speaker 1: What do you have for us on the heavyweight headliner

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 7: Sort of got to what I was trying to get to,

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Speaker 7: But we congratulate on Tetalia. How about Larissa Pacheco. I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, you know, you know, for obvious reasons. You know,

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Speaker 1: And in two divisions. Right, this was a feather.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, very impressive win for Larissa Pacheco aspen Lad made

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Speaker 1: That's nice to see. You know.

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Speaker 7: I try to follow some of these fighters who who

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Speaker 1: It didn't work out for her there.

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Speaker 7: Now look at her now as been Lad maybe at

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Speaker 1: Made one hundred grand this weekend.

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Speaker 7: And what about this Biagio Ali Walsh seems like kids

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Speaker 5: Yes he does, man, I think he really has a

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Speaker 5: He doesn't want to just be known as, you know,

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Speaker 5: He understands where he is at at this pointer his career.

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Speaker 7: And PFL right back at it in Atlanta this weekend, right,

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Speaker 7: Olivia Obaumer, how you doing? But it's like being an

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Speaker 7: you got one more week, so it's three straight and.

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Speaker 1: Brian stand fucking going to be back in the building.

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Speaker 1: This weekend.

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Speaker 3: I hope to see him. I didn't get a chance

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Speaker 3: So hopefully, Yeah, good, good transpire it.

440
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Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe you guys can FaceTime me so I cannot

441
00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:18,480
Speaker 7: hide vicariously, you guys exactly all right, plenty to get to,

442
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:23,159
Speaker 7: of course UFC Fight night, but Tory versus Canady or

443
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 7: headline filled event at the UFC Apex. And to help

444
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,200
Speaker 7: us break that down, let us get to the Ray

445
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Speaker 7: Longo Minute.

446
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Speaker 2: It's now time for the Ray Long Minute.

447
00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna a whole that's what I want, The Ray.

448
00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:42,439
Speaker 2: Long Minute, John nik and Kenny Florian podcast.

449
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 7: I mean, you go to UFC dot com over the

450
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 7: weekend and there's a feature story on Ray Long Ago.

451
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.

452
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 3: How we doing today, guys.

453
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Speaker 1: We're doing great. How are you doing? Congrats on a

454
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:56,719
Speaker 1: big weekend.

455
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Speaker 6: I'll tell you, great weekend for the team, and a

456
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,679
Speaker 6: great weekend overall, you look a little uh off today?

457
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,680
Speaker 1: How we feel is at the sun hit in my face.

458
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 1: I look a little off today. What does that mean you?

459
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 1: And are you?

460
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 3: Oh?

461
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in my mother's house.

462
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm trying to get to the bottom of my

463
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,119
Speaker 7: uh yeah, mama's boy. You could say that, trying to

464
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Speaker 7: get to the bottom of my internet issues.

465
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Speaker 1: So we relocated to Delray Beach, Florida today.

466
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Speaker 7: Before we get into Jared Canadeer's mastery and Marvin Buttore's

467
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 7: other worldly toughness, tell us a little bit about your weekend.

468
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 7: Charlie Campbell, Dennis Bazooka, how to.

469
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 6: Go man bizuokah, big win. Uh, hopefully he'll get the

470
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 6: call to the UFC. Charlie Campbell came back with a

471
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 6: great fight after his uh you know, last fight which

472
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 6: didn't go his way. And I thought Damian Nelson won

473
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 6: the fight, but uh he lost the split decision. But Kenny,

474
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 6: you want to see beautiful footwork and head movement, go

475
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,400
Speaker 6: watch that fight, really really nice fight to watch.

476
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Speaker 3: I just don't know what. I don't know when anybody

477
00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 3: wants when.

478
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 6: That guy fights sometimes, you know, like you know, the

479
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 6: slick movement stuff they just I like, I appreciate that,

480
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 6: but right, you know, it's just something I guess nobody

481
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 6: cares about.

482
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, but no, I go to UFC dot com and

483
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 7: the headline was something to the effect of long ago

484
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,959
Speaker 7: surrounded by young talent.

485
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Speaker 1: You know, it's keeping him young in this game, you know.

486
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Speaker 7: Of course, Setly, I'm reading the article to see if

487
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 7: there's any mention of the anak Implorian podcast.

488
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Speaker 3: This is keeping me young too.

489
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Speaker 6: You guys can't let me go, right, No, I think

490
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 6: that I agree with you.

491
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Speaker 7: Yeah, so all right, well, let us dive in to

492
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Speaker 7: Jared Cannoneer and Marvin Vattorian. Candidly, I care less about

493
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 7: the significant strike record. I care much more about Jared

494
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Speaker 7: Cannoneer's performance here Kenny at thirty nine years of age.

495
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Speaker 1: Let's start with Ray because he was on hold for

496
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: a few minutes. But unbelievable.

497
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Speaker 7: This guy, when you think back to this guy as

498
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Speaker 7: an FAA aviation specialist and half the year right working

499
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 7: for the FAA, is a heavyweight out of Alaska, and

500
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 7: then he goes to light heavyweight. Now he's one of

501
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 7: the best middleweights in the world and basically in a

502
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 7: fight that was to determine whether he will ever fight

503
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 7: for the title again, gets cracked in round one and

504
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Speaker 7: then turns in this historically great performance.

505
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Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on, Jared Cannedy.

506
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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely blown away, thirty nine years old, look better

507
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 6: than ever. Like you say, not only a great performance,

508
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 6: but he did get rocked, so we had to come back,

509
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 6: and that's even I think the oldie you get, you know,

510
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 6: when does that wear out?

511
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 3: Right?

512
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 6: So I mean, what a great, great performance output off

513
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Speaker 6: the charts, and he had a regroup. I love those

514
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 6: fights where a guy takes the best of what the

515
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 6: other guy has and then he comes back and does

516
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 6: you know, fantastic And that's exactly what we saw. A

517
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 6: great movement both. I thought both corners did a great

518
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 6: job in the fight, be honest with you, I thought

519
00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 6: they were both on and it made for a great fight.

520
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 6: But hats off to John Crouch and Kennedy. I thought

521
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 6: that was by far the best I've ever seen him.

522
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 6: And maybe it's because he had, you know, the right

523
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 6: dance partner that was willing to, you know, exchange with

524
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Speaker 6: him and be able to take what he's got because

525
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Speaker 6: I don't know what the heck Victory's got in his head.

526
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 3: But man, he.

527
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Speaker 6: Crazy because you know, Kennan Neil looked like he was

528
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 6: getting his head snapped back worse than Victorian. Vittori was

529
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 6: getting bombed on like it was, So hats off to

530
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Speaker 6: Victori too for toughness.

531
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Speaker 3: I thought Dewey Cooper did a great job.

532
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Speaker 6: I think, you know, not that he was listening because

533
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 6: he was circling into the power hand and he couldn't.

534
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Speaker 3: I think he was pleading with him to go away.

535
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Speaker 6: I thought Dowey had that fight knocked down, but for

536
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 6: some reason, Victori just wasn't like listening totally to what

537
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 6: he was saying.

538
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 3: Made perfect sense, though.

539
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 7: Kenny Ray hit on a lot of things I had

540
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Speaker 7: in my notes about both Dewey Cooper and John Crouch.

541
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Speaker 7: We know John Crouch as a jiu jitsu guy, right,

542
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 7: but he is an outstanding mixed martial arts coach, and

543
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 7: right after round one he immediately had the right adjustments.

544
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 7: Kennedy immediately refocused on the footwork, and I don't know,

545
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 7: I just thought both Canada corners, to Ray's point, did

546
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 7: an outstanding job to supremely conditioned middleweights. And I thought

547
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 7: Domina Cruz was on fire with the commentary, just coming

548
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 7: back to the conditioning, Kenny, what'd you think of a

549
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 7: pretty epic UFC main event.

550
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Speaker 5: There, Yeah, no question about it. You know, I've known

551
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Speaker 5: John Crouch a long time. Originally really known as a

552
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 5: jiu jitsu guy, but he really has evolved into an

553
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 5: excellent mixed martial arts corner. You know, when you're a

554
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 5: mixed martial arts corner or coach, Rey knows better than anybody.

555
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 5: You know, you have to be a technician, you have

556
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 5: to be a psychologist, you have to be a father

557
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 5: many times, there's so many different roles and you need

558
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 5: to know what you need to do as far as

559
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 5: pulling those strengths to get your fighter to do what

560
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 5: they need to do out there to execute and win.

561
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Speaker 5: And I thought proutshit a phenomenal job. And again both corners,

562
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Speaker 5: Dewey Cooper one of the best in the game as well.

563
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Speaker 3: So I couldn't agree with you more.

564
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Speaker 5: And in regards to the fight itself, in my opinion,

565
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Speaker 5: definitely one of the fights, one of the best fights

566
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Speaker 5: of the year so far. I think you had it all.

567
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 5: You had a lot of drama, you had back and forth,

568
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 5: there was fite, you know, the fight took place on

569
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 5: the ground, took place on the feet, A lot of

570
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 5: momentum shifts for me. I do want to talk about

571
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Speaker 5: that stat John, because the reason I didn't pick Jared

572
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 5: Kanneer was he suffers sometimes sometimes from a lack of volume.

573
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Speaker 5: He ends up, you know, analyzing a little bit too

574
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 5: much and doesn't throw a whole lot in fear of

575
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Speaker 5: the takedown. I thought Martin Mctory was gonna look for

576
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 5: more takedowns. It looked like he didn't for some reason.

577
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Speaker 9: And Cannoneer just started unleaching combination after combination, and that

578
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Speaker 9: the Jared Cannoneer that I knew was was was absolutely

579
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Speaker 9: capable of doing that, but I was dubious of that

580
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Speaker 9: because of the fact that sometimes he doesn't.

581
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Speaker 5: Throw his hands like I think he should. This was

582
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Speaker 5: not the case. And to see him come back after

583
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Speaker 5: a tough round one and regroup and get his head

584
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 5: right and build those shots with that amount of volume,

585
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 5: I thought was phenomenal. And Ray absolutely a grief you

586
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 5: best fight that I've seen from Cannon here, no question

587
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 5: about it. So excellent for both man and the toughness

588
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 5: that both those guys showed. Dude, what a fight and John.

589
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what makes it great too, is that

590
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 5: he got hurt early. So even when he's doing good,

591
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 5: that's what makes a great fight. You know, we could

592
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 5: get hurt because you already was heard, so there's always

593
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 5: that anticipation the Tory could come back. And even though

594
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 5: it didn't happen like that, it's still made for you know,

595
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 5: you're still sitting on the edge of your seat.

596
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 6: Anything could happen, and I love those type of fights.

597
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 6: That was really, really a great fight.

598
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Speaker 7: So Jared Cannoneer has now won four or five and

599
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 7: when you look at the career since moving down to

600
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Speaker 7: eighty five, the only guys to beat him Robert Whitaker

601
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Speaker 7: by unanimous decision in twenty twenty at a main event.

602
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: No that was a three or excuse me, and.

603
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 7: Then uh Israelato Soni obviously for the title, and that

604
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 7: title fight against Adasania was eleven months ago. He's responded

605
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 7: with wins over Shan Strickland and now against the very

606
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 7: durable Marvin Vattori. Before he spin it forward on Jared Cannoneer,

607
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 7: how about the Italian dream Marvin Vattori, Right, he's still

608
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 7: a young man, He's impossibly hard, to put away.

609
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: I thought Kenny there was some sort of adrenaline.

610
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 7: Dump at the end of round one, and so round

611
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 7: two was particularly challenging for him. I don't think he

612
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 7: necessarily won round three, but the resolve and the heart

613
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 7: and the offense that he showed in round three, Like, yeah,

614
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 7: anytime Marvin VATORI loses Ray like, I feel like I

615
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 7: have buckets of respect for this kid in defeat, even

616
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 7: when it's not a great performance for him. And even

617
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 7: if you want to argue we lost four or five

618
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 7: rounds here, just an absolute Italian fucking warrior, you know.

619
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no what out of doubt, No hats off to Vittoria.

620
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 6: Uh and and and he's young enough even though that

621
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 6: was that was a tough fight. But I think I

622
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 6: think he makes I think he makes a couple of

623
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 6: adjustments and he is gonna be better from that fight.

624
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 6: I think he got caught off guard. He didn't think

625
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 6: it was gonna go I don't I think I think

626
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 6: he's with Kenny. I don't think he saw that amount

627
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 6: of value anywhere in any tape he studied. And Kenny,

628
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 6: I don't know. I guess you picked the Vittori, but

629
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 6: a smart pick you know. So when you when you

630
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 6: lose a pick like that and the guy does something

631
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 6: you've never seen before, there's nothing you can do about it,

632
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. But it's not that he

633
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 6: didn't even do anything. He broke all records.

634
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

635
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 6: That's a crazy performance. That is a crazy performance, man,

636
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 6: it really was. So I would have picked for Tory.

637
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 6: I didn't even know if I thought about the fight,

638
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 6: but I definitely would have picked the Tory. But now

639
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 6: we have this cannon here who we think is gonna

640
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 6: come every time. He better show up like that every

641
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 6: time because that's the guy we that's the guy we

642
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 6: want to see well.

643
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 7: And if he is to work himself into a championship

644
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 7: fight again, and Israeladasani is the champion that he is challenging,

645
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 7: hopefully it will be more of this approach, right because

646
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 7: he was reluctant to take risks in that fight at

647
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 7: UFC two seventy six, and he acknowledged that a lack

648
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 7: of volume Kenny has been an issue and it certainly

649
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 7: was not an issue in his record setting performance at

650
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 7: the UFCAPEX on Saturday. So as we spin it forward,

651
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 7: I don't know exactly what you do with Marvin Vittoria.

652
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna beat both, beat most of the

653
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 7: guys in the top ten. But for Jared Cannoneer, he

654
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 7: has expressed interest in maybe being the backup for israelto

655
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 7: Sony's presumed next title defense the second week of September

656
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 7: in Sydney, Australia. But we have this eliminator between Drakes

657
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Speaker 7: Duplessi and Robert Whittaker, but it is happening about eight

658
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 7: weeks before that fight in Sydney. So Kenny, I'll ask

659
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 7: you and then Ray any thoughts you have on the

660
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 7: one hundred and eighty five pound of vision, I would

661
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 7: gladly take.

662
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: Kenny.

663
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 7: I don't know what Ottasania's appetite is going to be

664
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 7: for a cannon Air rematch right now. Certainly this performance

665
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 7: helps Jared and you and I can say, hey, I'm

666
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 7: more intrigued to see Cannoneer out of Sonya too. But

667
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 7: the question is, what do you think is his appetite

668
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 7: might be to take on Cannoneer after what we saw

669
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 7: Saturday night? And how realistic is it that that is

670
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 7: actually the next fight, because I'm just not sure that's

671
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 7: the next.

672
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 5: Fight, right I think it certainly helped his case, right,

673
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 5: I think that's kind of where he suffered in that

674
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 5: out of Sonia fight. He was hesitating a lot. He

675
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 5: didn't really throw as much volume in that fight. But

676
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 5: after having that performance in you know, one of the

677
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 5: best fights of the year, I think it helps his

678
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 5: case well out of Sonya take it.

679
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

680
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 5: I think he wants new blood, you know, I think

681
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 5: he wants to face someone new, someone different. But you know,

682
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 5: coming off of that knockout win over Perreira, I feel

683
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 5: like he feels like he can tackle the world.

684
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter who. But yeah, but.

685
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 6: I'm agreeing with Kenny. Unfortunately, there's a couple of divisions.

686
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 6: I think we spoke about this a week ago or whatever,

687
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 6: but there's a wide separation between the number one challenger

688
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 6: and the champion in a couple of like the guys

689
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 6: just never going to be the champ.

690
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: I forget who the hell we were talking about.

691
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 6: But I don't think I think it was like again,

692
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go Kenny frased it really nicely.

693
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: It helps his.

694
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 6: Case, but there is no case I don't think. I

695
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 6: think there's a wide separation and the reason why sometimes

696
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 6: he was inactive is because of the way what is

697
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 6: he's putting out, you know what I mean, there's a

698
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 6: big difference when you're hitting the guy and nothing's coming back,

699
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 6: but you're not going to have that luxury without asnia.

700
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 3: And that's if you even can hit them.

701
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 6: And then their frustration builds about missing them and maybe

702
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 6: being out of place and getting counted. And that's why

703
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 6: sometimes you see the output not as high as it

704
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 6: was in the other fight. I think there came a

705
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 6: point in that fight where Cannony just didn't think that

706
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 6: Victoria could.

707
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: Hurt him anymore and it was almost, you know, like

708
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: target practice.

709
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 6: So only the guys when you're in there, you realize

710
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 6: what's going on from the outside. Sometimes it's oh, he's

711
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 6: not doing anything right, that's what it looks like. But

712
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 6: you know, guys faking you a little bit, you know. Yeah,

713
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 6: it there's a lot going on, and I think that's

714
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 6: what causes the hesitation sometimes.

715
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe these figured it out.

716
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 6: So I think one more fight where he has a

717
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 6: very dominant performance, yeah, we could make a case, I

718
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 6: would think, but that division to me is wide open.

719
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: It is.

720
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a little bit tricky because a lot of

721
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 7: these guys have faced each other, so you can argue.

722
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 7: And again, so much respect for Jared Knnonyer and Marvin

723
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 7: Invatory and what they put forth right, But had Marvin

724
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 7: Inventory won this fight right? But Tore has already fought

725
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 7: Izzy twice, so that fight is not gonna happen.

726
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: A third meeting between those two is just not gonna happen.

727
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 7: And to Ray's point, you're talking about fourteen months after,

728
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 7: is he utterly dominates Jared cannony or yes, cannadyar will

729
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 7: have beaten Sean Strickland and Marve Inventory, but it just

730
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 7: doesn't seem like you're gonna run that back as your

731
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 7: headliner in September in Sydney. So promotionally, you see what

732
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 7: happens with Robert Whitaker and Dracus duplus c.

733
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: You know, Vicker wins a thirty to twenty seven.

734
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 7: I'm not sure is he's going to have some great

735
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 7: appetite to fight him a third time either, So you're right, Red,

736
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 7: it's wide open for a guy like Drakes Duples right,

737
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 7: like Chris Widman right to come back and if he

738
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 7: can finish Brad Tabores, you know, like there's You're right,

739
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 7: I do believe the division is ripe with opportunity. Even

740
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 7: the winner of Paolo Costa and Ikramala scare of you know,

741
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 7: But I don't know, man I Cannon here couldn't have

742
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 7: done much more other than to finish the score to

743
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 7: maximize that showcase. But I'm just not sure he's going

744
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 7: to be next for the belt.

745
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 6: He did his job, he did it impressingly. Again if

746
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 6: you might not want to focus on it, but it

747
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 6: is a record. In the end, I think it means

748
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 6: a lot against another guy who could throw some volume,

749
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 6: and there's a good count strikers.

750
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know.

751
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 6: I'd like Again, I think Kenny said it's great for

752
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 6: his case. I just I just think there's a wide

753
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 6: disparage you between Izzy and ninety eight percent of the

754
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 6: other guys.

755
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you're not gonna do Whitaker Cannon here again

756
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 7: as a co headliner.

757
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: If Robert is able to DUPLESSI what do you?

758
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: What do you do?

759
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 7: But I do believe, as crazy as it may sound

760
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 7: to some, and as much of a homerism as it

761
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 7: may sound to some, you know, Chris wiber might get

762
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 7: a championship fight if you get two straight wins.

763
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: You just never know.

764
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 3: And this all that's the good thing about one time

765
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 3: being a champion.

766
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 6: You get a lot of respect and you deserve that

767
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 6: type of attention.

768
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 7: Now, I would like to see Chris maybe get I mean,

769
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 7: he mixes it up beautifully, but I'd like to see

770
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 7: him get back to uh to a grappling heavy style,

771
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 7: you know, And I think that would intrigue ot A son.

772
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 6: Yet there's room for a third corner guy, and I

773
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 6: like the.

774
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: Kenny.

775
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 6: I think is he making a play for the third

776
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 6: corner guy because.

777
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 3: There's an open spot right now? You gotta do it

778
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 3: like the Pool Felder.

779
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 6: You leave the booth and you come corner with me,

780
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 6: and then you go back to cool in the fights.

781
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: You guys can do so much better.

782
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 7: To me, this is big Kenny, so much better than me,

783
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 7: and I know raised messing with me obviously against someone

784
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 7: like Brad Tavors.

785
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: But perhaps you sound great though You're right on the

786
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: money with what you're saying.

787
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: Hundreds, you know.

788
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 7: Atasanya would love nothing more than for Chris Wyman, one

789
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 7: of the all time great decorated former Middleway champions, is

790
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 7: he would love for him to build himself up so

791
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 7: that he can have that fight and potentially have that

792
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 7: challenge and have that scalp. So we'll see what happens,

793
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 7: but I do believe you're right that to a large degree,

794
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 7: eighty five is wide open. I quickly want to touch

795
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 7: on this comane event armand Sarwakian over Joakim Silva by

796
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 7: TKO and round three another outstanding fight. I don't know

797
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 7: if Cruizy was micro dosent on mushrooms, but he was

798
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 7: on fire all night and one thing he said during

799
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 7: this Komane event was that this type of fight in

800
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 7: which Saakjian was challenged, Kenny right there was sort of

801
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 7: like a hesitation left hook by Joakim Silvan round two

802
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 7: that really buckled Saakian. But that type of adversity in

803
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 7: these type of fights build you for that championship run.

804
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 7: And I thought it was another sage comment from Cruzy.

805
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 7: What were your thoughts on saur Kian getting a scare there, Kenny,

806
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 7: but holding serve as a minus one thousand favorite here

807
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 7: in the comin event.

808
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tom was spot on with that.

809
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 5: I think those are the kind of fights you want

810
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 5: to have as a guy who wants to be a

811
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 5: champion of the sport. You want to experience that adversity,

812
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 5: You want to experience that gut check during a fight.

813
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 5: So when you inevitably do experience that in a championship setting,

814
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 5: you're not surprised that by it. And I think you

815
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 5: do gain a tremendous amount of fortitude and confidence coming

816
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 5: off of a win like that when you have to

817
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 5: dig deep. So I couldn't agree more. I thought it

818
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 5: was a fantastic fight. First of all, Jean Silva is

819
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 5: a massive lightweight. That dude is huge. No idea how

820
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 5: he makes that weight. But saru Kan is an animal.

821
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 5: He is an absolute animal. His ability to mix and strikes,

822
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 5: set up takedowns, and get control on the ground like

823
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 5: he does. He can look like a world class kickboxer

824
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 5: and look look like a world class wrestler.

825
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 3: Within a round. And you just don't see that very often.

826
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 5: And if there's one guy who can challenge the wrestling

827
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 5: the wrestling acumen of someone like a Islam Mahash Chef,

828
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 5: it's a Rukian. You need someone who has high level

829
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 5: wrestling skills period. If you don't have that, I don't

830
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 5: care what kind of striker you are, you're not going

831
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 5: to be able to contend with someone like Islam. So

832
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 5: o Kean can do that. And I thought he had

833
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 5: an awesome performance against Silva. Looked great, Uh got the finish.

834
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 5: I remember us talking about, you know, not only did

835
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 5: he need to win, but he needed to look impressive

836
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 5: and get a finish. He did exactly that, and he

837
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 5: had a lot to lose in that fight. So the

838
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 5: fact that he's able to perform like that against an

839
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 5: excellent lightweight, maybe not a top ten ranked lightweight, but

840
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 5: an excellent lightweight, a dangerous lightweight like that, and perform

841
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 5: like that, I thought it was a great sign. He

842
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 5: is someone that I truly believe not only can fight

843
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 5: for the belt in the near future, but potentially when

844
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 5: when the belt.

845
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 6: Hey, Kenny just speaks so eloquently. It's really great, No,

846
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 6: great job, But why do I have to follow? Why

847
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 6: do I have to follow him all the time? Then

848
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 6: I got to come up with something odd that he

849
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 6: doesn't you know, just to answer, but no, no, yeah,

850
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 6: I agree. I love those fights where a guy gets tested,

851
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 6: he gets buckled, and not only come back, but man

852
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 6: finished with a statement. Kenny like he was not going

853
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 6: to be denied that night. I'm going to tell you,

854
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 6: my only problem is, I believe is that you only

855
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 6: have X number of those things. And Serukian looks like

856
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 6: a guy that they're just going to torture before he

857
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 6: gets the shot. And you know, and he's gonna take

858
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 6: any fight, and he's gonna be that guy.

859
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: But I don't want.

860
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 6: It to work against him because I think he's a

861
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 6: nice young kid who really has a chance.

862
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: But you could see nobody wants to fight him.

863
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 6: Uh, And you know, he took a tough fight and

864
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 6: he stood up with a guy that hits like a train.

865
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 6: You know, he did a little of everything, but when

866
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 6: he had to turn it on and get the fight

867
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 6: the way he could be dominant. He couldn't have been

868
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 6: more dominant. I thought it was a great victory for him.

869
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 6: And I agree with everybody dominant, Kenny. Those fights, those

870
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 6: are character builders, man, that you know that that experience,

871
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 6: it only comes around every so often if you're lucky

872
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 6: to even get it and work your way through it

873
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 6: to get to the next level, and he certainly did so.

874
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 6: Hats off to Serukian and I just hope they treat

875
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 6: him right. It seems like he's gonna be one of

876
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 6: those guys that's gonna have to go through twenty p

877
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 6: It's gonna be like a furnacon almost. He's gonna have

878
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 6: to string eleven. By the time you get there, you

879
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 6: kind of burnt out already. I'm hoping that doesn't happen, you.

880
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 5: Know, Ray, it's possible. You know, Cody kind of reading

881
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 5: my mind. He's putting up in the chat there. Maybe

882
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 5: dar Yushwin he returned. That was the first fight that

883
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 5: I thought of, Is you face a guy who's high,

884
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 5: you know, a higher ranking than you. These guys just

885
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 5: fought around the same time. Timing wise, it could work out.

886
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: You know.

887
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 5: Daryush is a true test. He goes out there beat

888
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 5: someone like dar Us and then maybe he gets the

889
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 5: next title shot after that.

890
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 3: So who knows.

891
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 5: Man, you know, that would be nice. I think it's interesting.

892
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 5: But the amount of hell you have Gae Chee and

893
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 5: Pourier going at it too. You know obviously that because

894
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 5: of their high profile, they could be in the conversation too,

895
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 5: you know, But I think sar U kian Uh isn't

896
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 5: too far away. But you're right, Ray, I think it's

897
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 5: going to come down to management and what the UFCC

898
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 5: is and what they do with them, But.

899
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: Armined something else. Man, Yeah, I.

900
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 6: Think he's a potential. You know, he should be fighting

901
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 6: for the belt shortly. I mean very shortly.

902
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 7: So some intel as far as Arman saur Kian and

903
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 7: piggybacking on Ray echoing that this guy could end up

904
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 7: right winning like twelve of thirteen and not fighting for

905
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 7: the belt.

906
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: Right, fifty five is the best division in the UFC.

907
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 7: Right, with respect animates and the featherweights and everybody else,

908
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 7: the UFC light division is where it is at right.

909
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 7: Arman Sarrogian and Rafael Fhazive have the same manager, Danny Rubinstein.

910
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 7: They trained together a lot, so it seems like a

911
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 7: lot of people want phy Z than Sarakian to fight,

912
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 7: and I think on the surface that fight makes a

913
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 7: lot of sense, But those two trained together.

914
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't think that fight would happen unless it was

915
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: for the title.

916
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 7: Saraikion versus Mattauje Gamra is a fight that we've already

917
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 7: seen and yet a fight that makes sense. I think

918
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 7: dar Yusch is at the top of my list. Saragion

919
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 7: would like to fight Michael Chandler. Chandler seemingly is waiting

920
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 7: for Connor McGregor. We don't know the realism of that matchup,

921
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 7: so I think there's a potential there. Even your guy

922
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 7: Matt for Bola, by the way, who had to fight

923
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 7: Armant Sarregian on twenty four hours, I don't think that's

924
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 7: going to be the next fight. But if I'm Matt

925
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 7: for Vola, you know, I wouldn't mind taking that guy's

926
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 7: steam at some point in time if I actually get

927
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 7: a training camp to fight him. But Saraikian has tried

928
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 7: to get high profile lightweights, and if you take him

929
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 7: at his word, a lot of these guys aren't signing

930
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 7: on the dotted line.

931
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 6: Daryush would yeah, yeah for Vola, would fight have been

932
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 6: a hard if he could get his mind off a

933
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 6: fighting Patty Pemlet. But Matt would definitely take that fight because,

934
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 6: like you said, he fought him in twenty four hours

935
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 6: and right what a good camp.

936
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 3: He's definitely got the power now.

937
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 6: You could see that he could hurt him and his

938
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 6: wrestling jiu jitsu is really good, So that's a good's

939
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 6: that's a good fight for a.

940
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 7: Rematch, And for armand Sarkian did fight islamikashev as many

941
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 7: of you know, that was in Saint Petersburg Fight of

942
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 7: the night always back in twenty nineteenth.

943
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: Great history there.

944
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 7: Yeah so, but congrats to Arman Sarrugian and I really

945
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 7: thought that that this performance, and particularly the Kenny's point

946
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 7: to finish, really serves to elevate him. I wanted to

947
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 7: ask you guys quickly about one situation that happened before

948
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 7: we go. I have often said on this podcast, I

949
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 7: think the hardest job in mixed martial arts is fighter.

950
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 7: The second hardest job is judge. The third hardest job

951
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 7: is referee. Coaches and commentators don't get enough respect. But

952
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 7: as far as the second fight of the night was

953
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 7: concerned Dan Argetta and Ronnie Lawrence, it's a no contest.

954
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 7: Keith Peterson the referee in question, and I qualify this

955
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 7: by saying how hard it is to be a referee.

956
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 7: But Kenny, I don't know if you saw this, but

957
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 7: essentially Dan Argetta is working on a choke. Ronnie Lawrence

958
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 7: at a time looked like he was getting a hand

959
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 7: ready to tap, but he never taps out. And this

960
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 7: is not a case of Keith Peterson trying to preserve

961
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 7: an arm or a leg it's a blood choke, right,

962
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 7: so it doesn't seem as though if he gave it

963
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 7: an extra beat it would have been all that big

964
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 7: a deal, but it ends up being a premature stoppage.

965
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 7: Keith has obviously owned it, but disappointed for Dan Argetta

966
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 7: in particular to not potentially realize his win bonus. For

967
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 7: Ronnie Lawrence. Obviously there's a side of it as well.

968
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 7: But I bring it up to you guys because I

969
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 7: don't know what the course of action is. Right if

970
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 7: you're the UFC, right, do you lose money in every

971
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 7: single situation like this by paying both fighters their win bonus?

972
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 1: Kenny?

973
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 7: I don't know what you do, but I know when

974
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 7: it comes to the jiu jitsu, at least compared to

975
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 7: like a knockout or an arm show or an arm

976
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 7: or a leg I would think if it's a blood

977
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 7: choke like that, maybe.

978
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: You'll learn the lesson and you try to give it

979
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: a beat. What were your thoughts on that?

980
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

981
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 5: You know, I actually I did not see it, but

982
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 5: you had a great explanation of what happened there, and

983
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 5: you know, I couldn't agree more that. If you are

984
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 5: in a choke and you see a guy that's fighting,

985
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 5: you know, through it, and he's not out Let.

986
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 3: Him fight through it.

987
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 5: It's not a limb sacrificing deal, you know, on the submission.

988
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 5: So I think that you know, for Keith Peterson, who

989
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 5: I do believe is one of the best referees in

990
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 5: the game, he made a mistake there.

991
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 3: Now if he did admit it, I think.

992
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 5: What the UFC need to do well, First of all,

993
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 5: you could appeal potentially, those aren't always fruitful. It's very

994
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 5: difficult to win an appeal with the commission. Many times

995
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 5: it ends up becoming a waste of time. But perhaps

996
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 5: with an admission by the referee you have a stronger case.

997
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 5: But more than anything else, I think where the UFC

998
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 5: can kind of maybe make this up is they can

999
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 5: do a rematch, right, and it is a tough thing

1000
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 5: for a business, for organization, you know, do you just

1001
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 5: take care of everybody who was at the wrong end

1002
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 5: of the decision?

1003
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1004
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 5: But what they could do is maybe have these guys rematch,

1005
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 5: another thing that they could be rare in the sport.

1006
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 5: But I think it's absolutely warranted, absolutely justified here. So

1007
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 5: unfortunate there because again, you know, whether it's a judge

1008
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 5: making an incorrect decision or a bad decision, or a

1009
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 5: referee making a mistake out there. That l is absolutely permanent.

1010
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 5: That's something that stays on your record and it can

1011
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 5: really affect you moving forward economically, you know, getting getting

1012
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 5: certain fights.

1013
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's tough, man, that's tough for those guys. Yeah, Kenny,

1014
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: you really have to go back and look at it. Though.

1015
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 3: It's a little more complicated than that.

1016
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 6: Really because yeah, because Peterson, he's got a dangling on

1017
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 6: he's getting shold.

1018
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 3: That does look like he's getting ready to He wasn't.

1019
00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 3: He looked like he was out.

1020
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, So one arms not even in play right, and

1021
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 6: he's he's got a mounted what would that be amounted guillotine.

1022
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 6: But but but so Peterson grabs his arm to see

1023
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 6: if he's still got life in it, and the picture

1024
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 6: like a rubber band. He grabs the arm and the

1025
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 6: arm comes back and tops the guy. That's the problem.

1026
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 6: So Peterson took it as a tap and in hindsight,

1027
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 6: looking at the tapes obviously and Cruise was all over,

1028
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 6: I think he was right, you know, But that's what happened.

1029
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 6: He tried to do the right thing and and and

1030
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 6: it just didn't work out. It wasn't the right call obviously,

1031
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 6: But I think the biggest thing is that that other

1032
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 6: kid was just dominating the fight to get a even

1033
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 6: to do a rematch, like you know, I might have

1034
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 6: been a thing where he got quota, but he was

1035
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 6: all over it. Yeah, you gotta go back and look

1036
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 6: at a little tricky I think. I mean, there was

1037
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 6: no way of restarting that fight.

1038
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 8: I guess.

1039
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a right way, but it kind.

1040
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 6: Of it kind of sucks, you know what I mean,

1041
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 6: because I think, you know, obviously Peterson is there to

1042
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 6: protect everybody, but like great points, it's a choke. I

1043
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 6: think he could have let it go just to see

1044
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 6: a little bit, right because he was on the other side.

1045
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: Also he kind been looking at the guy's.

1046
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 6: Face maybe, but uh yeah, that sucked because the other

1047
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 6: kid really had a great fight man.

1048
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 7: Well, right, and that that is the rub for me, right,

1049
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 7: Like you heard Roger Crawl here on the d Conformed

1050
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 7: podcast last week, he was in Ronnie Lawrence's corner. But

1051
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 7: if I'm Dan Argetta, it's like, no, not fucking rematching

1052
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 7: you in Jacksonville this weekend, Like, right, and I also

1053
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 7: think it's tricky in terms of like game plan, right, yeah,

1054
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 7: when you Ronnie Lawrence has divulged exactly what his game

1055
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 7: plan was, it's just a little bit of a tricky thing,

1056
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 7: right Yeah.

1057
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 5: He so he was dominating that fight and gotten to

1058
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 5: the submission. Yeah he picked up the Okay, that's a

1059
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 5: little different, all right, But yeah.

1060
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 7: It was a young fight, right, the fight had just started,

1061
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 7: and it's not out of the realm of possibility that

1062
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 7: Ronnie Lawrence actually gets out. But like if if I'm

1063
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 7: Dan Argetta, right, yeah, he's like, please get my wind bonus.

1064
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 6: Right, Like, that's that's the problem. Right, Yeah, I agree

1065
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 6: with you, Kenny, go back and watch the fight. Definitely

1066
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 6: a fair but but tricky And I don't know if

1067
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 6: the result would have been any different if it went

1068
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 6: another ten seconds. I mean he would have he would

1069
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 6: have had to toughed it out. It got you know,

1070
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 6: the guy's arms would have had to get tired. That's

1071
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 6: the way it looked to me. I didn't study it,

1072
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 6: but uh, it wasn't like there was a defense going

1073
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 6: on there.

1074
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 5: Right, And to be fair, like, as a referee, the

1075
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 5: one tell you're looking for is that dead floppy arm, right,

1076
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 5: so you pick and I don't know what happened again,

1077
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, arm flops back down. It's not doing anything.

1078
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 5: Then I don't know what else you could do as

1079
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 5: a referee. I mean, it's like, you don't want the

1080
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 5: dude to be losing consciousness for that long. You don't

1081
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 5: want that cut off of blood of the brain for

1082
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 5: that long.

1083
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 3: So that's tough.

1084
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, Robbie Wawler, Yeah yeah, it's similar situation.

1085
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, you know, is chaos.

1086
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 6: There's a lot going on and then that's the way

1087
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 6: that and that's what happened in the lull if I do,

1088
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 6: he was getting like killed and you know, there was

1089
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 6: a comeback or whatever was happening. But but uh per

1090
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 6: Deane stepped then he apologized right away. He thought he

1091
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 6: was doing the right thing. He wanted to protect the guy.

1092
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 6: You know, Peters, you got to look at the way

1093
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 6: that he pulled the arm, you know what I mean.

1094
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 6: It wasn't like it went back to dangling. It just

1095
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 6: reverbed to.

1096
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: The guy's body.

1097
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 6: Maybe in the heat of the moment, looked like a tap.

1098
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 6: When you go back and look at it, it doesn't

1099
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 6: really you know you could stop Cruise like like uh

1100
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 6: like John said, Cruise was definitely microdosing because he was

1101
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 6: he saw, he was. Cruise was in the matrix that night.

1102
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 6: He saw everything. And the other good he was. The

1103
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 6: other good call was when the guy you know, body

1104
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 6: slammed the other guy. They call it a head butt.

1105
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 6: He gets knocked out when his head hits the the canvas.

1106
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 3: At that part, that one, I think is worse.

1107
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 6: To be honest, they looked at that, They actually looked

1108
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 6: at and came up with the room decisions.

1109
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 7: It is port Jarry Pillell, Right, he's so credential when

1110
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 7: it comes to his mma mind, and yet these referees

1111
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 7: find themselves in these situations. And I will say in

1112
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 7: one breath, it's absolutely hilarious that Dominic Cruz was the

1113
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 7: guy on the call for a situation like this, because

1114
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 7: anyone who listened to this podcast.

1115
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 3: Couldn't have been a worse call guy right.

1116
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 7: And knows the history between Domina Cruz and Keith Peterson.

1117
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 7: It's absolutely hilarious that he was the guy. But I

1118
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 7: would also go ahead, right, yeah, yeah.

1119
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 6: I mean, I hate not defend Cruise. He doesn't need defending,

1120
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 6: but he did compliment Peterson later on in the night.

1121
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 3: So I did. It's a very mature evolution for Cruz.

1122
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: I think he is trying.

1123
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 6: He's very conscious and he did compliment them at the

1124
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 6: end of the fight out. Kay, I'm not even joking around.

1125
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 6: Cruse was on point, man, he I'm gonna say that

1126
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 6: guy was dead on. But here's what I think people

1127
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 6: have to know. Like if Dominic Cruz was referee and

1128
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 6: eventually he's gonna make a mistake, I think it's I

1129
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 6: just think it's that type of field. So you still

1130
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 6: got good guys in big guys one was that one

1131
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 6: was a problem, but I don't see it as a

1132
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 6: problem moving forward, and not at all, I really don't.

1133
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 6: I think to adjustment to that, He'll make the adjustment.

1134
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 6: But to everybody's point, Cruse was dead on the whole night.

1135
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 6: When he had to be hard, he was hard when

1136
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 6: he had a compliment, and maybe he did.

1137
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 3: He did great. So that's often Domina Cruz.

1138
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 6: I think as a commentator, I really enjoyed everything that

1139
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 6: night that he.

1140
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: Had to say.

1141
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 7: And full disclosure, Domina Cruz is one of my best friends.

1142
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 7: But Keith Peterson is also a friend, and I feel

1143
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 7: bad for Keith Canny, right, because he's an outstanding referee,

1144
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 7: he's an outstanding father, and yet you have a few

1145
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 7: too many of these situations, or a high profile situation

1146
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 7: like this one, where everybody is sort of piling on,

1147
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 7: and it can become a very difficult seventy two hours,

1148
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 7: certainly Kenny and I and Ray. But Kenny and I

1149
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 7: can relate to this. As UFC commentators. We're on a

1150
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 7: headset for eight hours. We're judged on every utterance. Even

1151
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 7: in the last few weeks on the Edict podcast, asked

1152
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 7: I greatly upset a very high profile gym owner that

1153
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 7: I respect to a great extent. Now I stand by

1154
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 7: what I said, but sometimes it's hard when you say

1155
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 7: something or do something that upsets a certain amount of

1156
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 7: people and you just kind of walk back into your

1157
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 7: life and you just kind of got to deal with it.

1158
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 7: So Keith Peterson has our respect, But uh, you know,

1159
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 7: I do think there was a lesson for him to

1160
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 7: be learned in this situation, and I think that he'll

1161
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 7: take that knowledge.

1162
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: He's next event.

1163
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 6: One hundred percent believe that, one hundred percent belive, and

1164
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 6: he owned it. That's why he's going to make the adjustment.

1165
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 6: It's when you don't own it that you don't make

1166
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 6: an adjustment, you know. And that's why it's important to

1167
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 6: talk to these guys because it helps everybody.

1168
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to let us know what you're thinking, right,

1169
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 3: you have to own it.

1170
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 6: If it's almost like you know, it's like an alcoholic,

1171
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 6: I don't have a problem.

1172
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: Well you're never gonna get helped then, all right, you

1173
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

1174
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 6: It's only when you say you have a problem that

1175
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 6: you get help. So the fact that even Herb at

1176
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 6: that time when he apologized to him awful. You could

1177
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 6: see it was a sincere apology to Robbie Lawl and

1178
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 6: Robbie Lawl of being the great guy that is, except

1179
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 6: that that's the way we have to move on, Yes,

1180
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 6: exactly like that.

1181
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 3: That's for me, that's the way right.

1182
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 7: Well, and I think a lot of these referees and judges,

1183
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 7: right like Keith Peterson, would like nothing more than to

1184
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 7: suck down a Marlborough Red heater and grab a microphone

1185
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 7: and explain to everyone his mistake.

1186
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: But he's not afforded that opportunity.

1187
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 7: These guys are essentially muzzle You don't think Keith Peterson

1188
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 7: would love to grab a microphone. You know, there's been

1189
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 7: myriad times where I've invited referees on the podcast and

1190
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 7: they respectfully declined.

1191
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 1: These guys are censored, they are muted.

1192
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 7: Not all of them would be reluctant to publicly explain

1193
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 7: their decision in a media scrum after the fight.

1194
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 6: But you know, I tell you John that just they

1195
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 6: go what you said? That is the problem. They can't

1196
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 6: even get on and explain themselves. Doesn't that tell you

1197
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 6: that something's hiding like that. It's not a good thing.

1198
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 6: It's the only answer. Why wouldn't you let it?

1199
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 3: I speak? Yeah, you know, it's like, you know, we

1200
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 3: see this every day.

1201
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 6: You can't get an answer on certain things, like nobody

1202
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 6: wants to debate anybody. No, it's just he has say

1203
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 6: nobody does the due diligence, And we would love to

1204
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 6: hear from Peterson and the fact that somebody's muzzling him, Yeah,

1205
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 6: tells you that there's a problem.

1206
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 7: Well, we've had referees and judges selectively on our show.

1207
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 7: Mark Goddard came on back in the day, right, and

1208
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 7: Mark Goddard is his own man, and I think sometimes

1209
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 7: will do what he wants to do. I think Mark

1210
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 7: Goddard actually had a podcast called Listen Up for a

1211
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 7: time with Dan Hardy. Right, So, but we can get

1212
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 7: more into that, and I will reach out to Keith

1213
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 7: and Kevin McDonald and some of the guys I know

1214
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 7: to see about their appetite for coming on here. I mean,

1215
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 7: Jason Herzog is probably the guy I'm closest with, and

1216
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,479
Speaker 7: we've talked about having him add to our content here,

1217
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 7: but I don't know that he is allowed to come

1218
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 7: on and explain his.

1219
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: Decisions in these critical fights.

1220
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 7: He's very much I would think, uh, encourage discourage from

1221
00:54:58,640 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 7: doing that.

1222
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: Hey, right, we got I'll let you go, my man.

1223
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: Last thing. Yes, josh Emmett ilia to.

1224
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 7: Spotlight this Saturday in Jacksonville, Florida to portis undefeated.

1225
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: He is a pretty big favorite. Who do you like

1226
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: in the main event this week?

1227
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 3: I gotta go with the pooria on that one.

1228
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 6: Although Josh Emmett's anything could happen, obviously, and Josh Emmitt's supertwented.

1229
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 6: But Tapori just looks like he's on the rise and

1230
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 6: he's not going to be denied either. But uh that

1231
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 6: that's not an easy fight though, for sure. But I

1232
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 6: know Morobs trained with the poor. He tells me the

1233
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 6: guy's fantastic. So I'm basically going off of that and

1234
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 6: I love what I see. And he had a fight

1235
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 6: where he got rocked and came back, and so he's

1236
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 6: got good experiences. You know. I think there's there's a

1237
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 6: couple of guys like Tim Zeruki and that are willing

1238
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 6: to get to that next level. And I'm glad he's

1239
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 6: being afforded the opportunity. That's a big fight with Emmett

1240
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 6: and I got it. Was as much as I like

1241
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 6: Josh Emmett, I gotta go with the pooria on that.

1242
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 7: On Twitter you can find him at ray Longo MMA,

1243
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 7: always bringing it for us, man, appreciate you man.

1244
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 3: And on Instagram just keep looking for me.

1245
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean I would. What's my Instagram handle?

1246
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: Is so frustrating?

1247
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: All right? Eight?

1248
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 7: So ray Longo's Instagram got hacked and so he had

1249
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 7: to get a new account. It's if you want to

1250
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 7: follow him on Instagram, where he has zero posts to

1251
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 7: dates despite his thirteen hundred and seventy eight followers at

1252
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,959
Speaker 7: ray Longo MMA ninety three fifty eight.

1253
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: What the fun is that?

1254
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 3: I have no idea I'm with you. I have no defense.

1255
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: No what's ninety fifty eight?

1256
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 6: No fucking idea, that's I swear to god that was

1257
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 6: made of I don't want to tell you that wasn't

1258
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 6: me though I didn't. I didn't do that.

1259
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 7: So when Cody sends you a clip that from Anni

1260
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 7: Florian pod and he invites you to be a collaborator, right,

1261
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 7: all you would have to do is hit accept, and

1262
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 7: that would populate your feed. Do you any of those

1263
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 7: collaboration requests or.

1264
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 6: No, don't even know what you're talking about.

1265
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 3: I'm not even joking. I don't even.

1266
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 6: First off, I'll tell you my other questions. You guys

1267
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 6: are talking about Cody's putting some of the chat. I

1268
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 6: don't see no chats on my screen. You guys actually

1269
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 6: seeing stuff.

1270
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 7: So sometimes he will populate like the rankings and some

1271
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 7: comments in the private chat. But like he just wrote

1272
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 7: to me, like give congrats to ray on Al Joe's

1273
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 7: induction into the Clay.

1274
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: Wait, and I was not going to do that.

1275
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 7: I took that producer note and I said, you know what,

1276
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 7: that's pretty cool, but I'm not going to fucking do it.

1277
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 7: But you know, like he tries to add to the

1278
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 7: show when he can. He doesn't get offended if I

1279
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 7: don't use things. But like, that's an example of something

1280
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 7: that he threw in the chat that would have ended

1281
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 7: up on the on the cutting room floor had you

1282
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 7: not brought up the chat.

1283
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 6: All right, but heads off to al Joe Man. We

1284
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 6: did have a great weekend. He was there cornering with

1285
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 6: me and always a super cool guy. We it was

1286
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 6: nice to see him get some credit outside the UFC,

1287
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 6: and he did a great job with that. So hats

1288
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 6: off to everybody, and hats off to Al Joe. He

1289
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 6: had a he had a blast this week.

1290
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: And all right, brother, well, I hope you had a

1291
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: good Father's Day?

1292
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:13,479
Speaker 3: Great father?

1293
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: Was it good yet?

1294
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: Great? Great? Yeah?

1295
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 6: I want to see, uh went out t He took

1296
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 6: the kids in the movies.

1297
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 3: And when I say kids, they're like forty five at

1298
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 3: this point.

1299
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 6: But right, we're still the fact, the fact that they

1300
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 6: want to still hang out with me, Kenny's I guess

1301
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 6: it is a blessing.

1302
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 3: That's a good thing. You did something right. I did

1303
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 3: something right, for sure. So we see.

1304
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 6: We went to see the Nero movie with Malice Guso Sebastian,

1305
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 6: pretty pretty good.

1306
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 3: All right, nice fun family movie.

1307
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: You are not a grandfather yet? Is that accurate?

1308
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 3: It's I wouldn't tell you if I was.

1309
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: I've got I bet.

1310
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 6: I just want to keep hanging with you guys and

1311
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 6: acting like I'm forty two or forty three or forty

1312
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 6: five or whatever.

1313
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 3: That's it, That's what it's all about.

1314
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 7: Just hey, how about Joel Romero competing at forty six

1315
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 7: years of age?

1316
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 6: They didn't win this weekend, but still a piece of granted,

1317
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 6: Oh no doubt about it.

1318
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 3: Still a piece of granted that guy.

1319
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: All Right, go go un tangle you your headphones. We'll

1320
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: talk to you next week.

1321
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 3: Okay, take it easy, guys.

1322
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 7: Right every week here on the Anakin Florm podcast, the

1323
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 7: Ray Long a minute, al Right, we are gonna spin

1324
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 7: things forward. Here's still a few things to get to

1325
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 7: on that Vegas event, but we are going to call

1326
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 7: on our handicapper, Brian Petrie. On social media, you can

1327
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 7: find it with Brian Petrie. M m A also the

1328
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 7: host of the m m A Takes podcast, and Brian

1329
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 7: Petree is now doing our pronunciation of the week in

1330
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 7: addition to our main event challenge is essentially something that

1331
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 7: was suggested by a longtime anakin Forlorum podcast listener.

1332
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: What's up, handsome, hey boys?

1333
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 4: What's going on?

1334
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 7: So a Cincinnati Reds World Series Champions T shirt that

1335
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 7: must be old? When did they last win the one?

1336
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 8: Nineteen ninety? I am the big Hardcoorse Bengals fan. I

1337
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 8: am a fair weather Reds fan. They're doing good right now.

1338
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 8: So your boy had a bus off the shirt. We

1339
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 8: got some young kids and eight nine in a row.

1340
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 8: I don't know how much it is, but we're exciting teams.

1341
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 8: So you going to take the girl to a game

1342
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 8: here soon because the stadium is The stadium's awesome.

1343
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: A great American ballpark.

1344
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a nice stadium. It's really dope, all right.

1345
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 7: So I have a lot of things to get to

1346
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 7: with you. Your wife accepted my request to follow her

1347
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 7: on Instagram.

1348
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very excited.

1349
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 7: My world has been opened up to your daughter, Winnie Peatree.

1350
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 7: And if I don't know if I want to invest

1351
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 7: in this child's future necessarily, but I would buy stock

1352
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 7: and Winni Peatree. I mean, what a winning name, Winnie Peatree.

1353
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 7: She is like cuter than you. I mean, this girl's

1354
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 7: got it all.

1355
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, she's pretty incredible. Yeah, I came. We also have

1356
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 8: two daughters at Winnie, which I named. People think it's

1357
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 8: from The Wonder Years or Winning the Poor Jax.

1358
01:00:58,640 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 4: I grew up.

1359
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 8: My father was a Moon movie had and wall Street.

1360
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 8: Gordon Gecko's daughter was Winnie, and I was like, that's

1361
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 8: the greatest name I've ever heard. But when I got

1362
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 8: married to my wife and we were having kids, I said, listen,

1363
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go ahead, latest down, we gotta go many

1364
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 8: and my wife's like, yeah, life. And then my wife

1365
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 8: now I have another daughter named Hazel. But yeah, it

1366
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 8: was Winnie's birthday. We have to beach Winnie's birthday. She

1367
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 8: is the funniest, cutest little thing I've ever seen. Going

1368
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 8: in the first grade, she's taller than everyone in her

1369
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 8: kindergarten class. I mean, she's gonna be six foot two.

1370
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 8: I'm encouraging volleyball right now, or em and a whatever

1371
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 8: she wants to do.

1372
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 4: But yeah, she is. She's awesome.

1373
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Well, I hope you had a good

1374
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: Father's Day. It's great to have you back with us.

1375
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 7: One thing that I did want to get to with

1376
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 7: you and certainly would take your thoughts on cannon air

1377
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 7: inventory on the back end, but you did have a

1378
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 7: four unit trigger on Christian Leroy Duncan, So that was

1379
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 7: a a minus I think six hundred and sixty dollars

1380
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 7: wager for you in our main event challenge. That was

1381
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 7: one fight that we did not get to earlier with

1382
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 7: and Flow. I thought he had his moments, but at

1383
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 7: times against armand Petrosian, it seemed like maybe he was

1384
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 7: treating it more like a sparing session that wasn't necessarily

1385
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 7: the urgency there. I know how high Sean Sheen is

1386
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 7: on CLD. I remain optimistic, but certainly a setback for him.

1387
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 7: Here your thoughts on that fight between Petrosian and CLD.

1388
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I got a lot of messages like dude,

1389
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 8: you sold me a dud, Like, well, he's a fraud.

1390
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 8: I'm not going to throw the F word out yet.

1391
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 8: He's six and oh eight, No excuse me. But I

1392
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 8: love cocky fighters. I love when guys going there like

1393
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 8: Max Hollway, let's go right, this dude's turning his back,

1394
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 8: he's he's getting flashy, but there's no substance to it,

1395
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 8: like you're not doing anything, my guy, Like these are

1396
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 8: all great stuff, but Petrosian saw him coming a mile away.

1397
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 8: His kicks are very good, hands need a bit of work.

1398
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 8: You know, he just throwing these wild kicks. But you

1399
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 8: know he's getting kind of cocky and flashy, and Petrosian

1400
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 8: just staying in his lane. And you know, thirty twenty seven,

1401
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 8: well the third round was very close. But yeah, and

1402
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 8: then the takedowns weren't there. They were they were kind

1403
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 8: of sloppy, really shoot much. It was kind of more

1404
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 8: of like a body lock, and Portrojan looked like the

1405
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 8: bigger guy in there.

1406
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 6: Uh.

1407
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, I threw a dot out there. I mean, listen,

1408
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 8: I won, I would have had if you would have won,

1409
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 8: out had a great night. I'm up two dollars, two

1410
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 8: whole dollars, uh because I put a lot in CLD

1411
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 8: there and that that's on me. Uh but yeah, you know,

1412
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 8: it just it just wasn't there for me. You know,

1413
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 8: I was a swinging miss for sure.

1414
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 7: Well, and I like the aggression, right because I'm gonna

1415
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 7: be paying the price with you when it comes to

1416
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 7: this punishment, the main event challenge. And you had a

1417
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 7: three in one weekend kent flow goes one and three,

1418
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 7: and yet you lose the week.

1419
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 4: I know I had a good week.

1420
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: Other than that, did have a good week going three

1421
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:37,919
Speaker 1: and one.

1422
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 7: I wanted to quickly get your thoughts on the main

1423
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 7: event if I could. And I don't know if Marvin

1424
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 7: Vittori's conditioning is what deserves the credit for for his

1425
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 7: ability to just absorb punishment, and like what is it

1426
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 7: going to take for a man to put Marvin Vittori away?

1427
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 7: I mean it makes me think like bear full fuck, Cody,

1428
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 7: you got to keep all this?

1429
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 4: Can you hear me?

1430
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 3: You got to keep all this?

1431
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 8: We've got two weeks in the row, Cody, can you

1432
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 8: hear me?

1433
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1434
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 4: You guys got this?

1435
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: Can you guys hear you?

1436
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 3: Got?

1437
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: That's can.

1438
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 10: Got?

1439
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: Oh?

1440
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 3: Okay?

1441
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 8: Sorry Mom?

1442
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 3: So I think John, Yeah, sorry, Mark.

1443
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 8: So we're gonna have to let the suit out a

1444
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 8: little bit.

1445
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: I heard it. I'm in shape. It's not that I'm

1446
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: out of shape, Cody. Sorry. Mom. So I'm doing the

1447
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: podcast from my mom's house.

1448
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 7: Holy ship, Mom, can you bring me a towel?

1449
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:10,479
Speaker 1: Please?

1450
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 3: Wow?

1451
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 7: This is great. This is Cody's gonna have a field

1452
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 7: two weeks. So I'm doing the podcast for my mom's house.

1453
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 7: If you're audio only, I just leaned back in my chair.

1454
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 7: The whole chair snapped. You need to move fucking chairs, mom,

1455
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 7: if I'm being honest, but I love you, thank you.

1456
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 7: My chair tapped in half. Draftings Network paying for all this.

1457
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 7: My chair is snapped in half. As we were talking

1458
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 7: about something.

1459
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 4: We're talking about.

1460
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 3: I think you have a strong lawsuit against your mom, dude,

1461
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 3: I'll be I think we can. I think we can

1462
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 3: win one.

1463
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 7: I'm just curious how much of my audio you still got.

1464
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,959
Speaker 7: When I was like, uh, we're good though, We're good.

1465
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 7: So we were talking about shit, I was like, I

1466
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 7: went back and then it seemed as though maybe I

1467
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 7: would be able to and.

1468
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, oh shit, chair broke.

1469
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1470
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 7: Oh, I kind of wish I was like one hundred

1471
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 7: and seventy pounds today, you know. But I'm not like

1472
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 7: inherently out of shape right now. Ah, But yeah, no,

1473
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 7: I so, I guess I just I've always marveled at

1474
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 7: the conditioning of these two athletes, in particular Kenny and Brian, right,

1475
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 7: I feel like they're two of the hardest workers at

1476
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 7: one hundred and eighty five pounds or otherwise, Like in

1477
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 7: the entire UFC, I think cannon inventory are two of

1478
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 7: the hardest workers.

1479
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: You never have to worry about that.

1480
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 7: And Brian, I would just ask you about Marvin's ability

1481
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 7: to just take damage and not be put away.

1482
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what you chalk it up to.

1483
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 7: I know you did pick Jared Cannon here to win

1484
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 7: the fife, but what were your thoughts on a pretty

1485
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 7: outstanding man event.

1486
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 4: So we're two for two for viral moments.

1487
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 8: That's going to be bigger than last week when you

1488
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 8: snapped you know about the technicals, but I saw that

1489
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 8: on media outlets.

1490
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 4: I didn't even know, which is great. Anyway, back to

1491
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 4: the Man event.

1492
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 8: Yet, Like there's a lot of like I've really actually

1493
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 8: dug dug into this of why people have good chins.

1494
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 8: You know, George Savello won the Greatest Box of All

1495
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 8: Time when the best chintz he has a YouTube video,

1496
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 8: he's like, Oh, it's a short neck, it's a wide y'all,

1497
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 8: it's a big head. Justin Gagee thinks it's like mental right,

1498
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 8: Like Tony Ferguson doesn't have any of those things, but

1499
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 8: you couldn't put him out with anything, right.

1500
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 4: So it's interesting to me.

1501
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 8: I've really dove into the psychological with this and Marvin

1502
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,439
Speaker 8: Torrey does have a big head, but I think it's

1503
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 8: his will in his mind. He's not going down because

1504
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 8: the cardio obviously plays a factor as well. But in

1505
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 8: the second round, which was close to a ten eight,

1506
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 8: he was gas that looked like, I mean, he is

1507
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 8: not on the second win, and he was taking big

1508
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,479
Speaker 8: shots very close to being stopped. His face was getting

1509
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 8: marked up. He obviously was firing back as the heart

1510
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 8: of a lion. But yeah, I don't know what you're

1511
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 8: gonna do. I heard someone on the broadcast say, oh,

1512
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 8: you gotta kick him in the head.

1513
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 4: Paul A Costa did that clean kick? That ahead?

1514
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 8: Nothing right right, You're gonna have to take it back

1515
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 8: to him. It's it's insane. And he's not picked cannoneers

1516
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 8: because I was modern his socials and he looked a

1517
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 8: little leaner, and I think he was, like Kenny pointed out,

1518
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 8: he's not the most active guy. He sat slots the

1519
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 8: selection typically not He's not throwing a lot of strikes.

1520
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 8: But for this fight, Martin Vatory's defense is not great,

1521
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 8: and I thought Kaneer put in a training camp to

1522
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 8: keep this pace, and he sure did. Broke records. Fifth

1523
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 8: round is still going for it. Crazy stuff.

1524
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 1: I had.

1525
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 8: I have a Janney Kareneer by decision three hundred ticket,

1526
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,799
Speaker 8: and I'll sweating the whole fight because even though Marvona

1527
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,799
Speaker 8: Tory is tough, I'm like, oh, rather he's tough, he's done,

1528
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 8: but just a heart of a warrior. And I contribute

1529
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 8: to really just physically the way he's built because he's

1530
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 8: huge too. Yeah, I couldn't believe how he dwarf Cannoneer,

1531
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 8: right and then uh and then in just the mindset

1532
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 8: as well, obviously being in phenomenal cardial shape as well.

1533
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 4: Hard work in the room.

1534
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah crazy.

1535
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 5: And how about how about Cannoneer winning the wrestling battle.

1536
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 5: If I told you before the fight, yeah, Cannoneer would

1537
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 5: out wrestle Marvin Victory Martin take down in that fight.

1538
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 3: It like two or three or something. So anyways, I saw.

1539
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 7: Good one, and I will say to your point, Petrie,

1540
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 7: like the visual of Marvin Vttori after round one. I

1541
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 7: know he doesn't take the stool, but putting both hands

1542
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 7: over the octagon like he was toasted after those first

1543
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,759
Speaker 7: five minutes, and he found that second gear and found

1544
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 7: that wind, and uh, yeah, I might have even had

1545
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 7: a ten eight for Kennonear in that second round.

1546
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, here's how we stand right now.

1547
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 7: Pe Tree is minus twenty seven eighty, Kenny Florian minus

1548
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 7: twenty bucks on the year, can Flow one in three,

1549
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 7: Monus two to seventy five, Petrie three and one, but

1550
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 7: it was a minus three sixty on the week.

1551
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: We got eight fights to pick for Jacksonville.

1552
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 7: Menh, I feel like all eight fights are worthy of predictions.

1553
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 7: All of these odds, all of these betting lines right

1554
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 7: now are live on DraftKings Sports Book. We begin with

1555
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 7: a prelim in the strawweight division fifteenth rank. Tabitha Ricci

1556
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 7: baby Shark minus won twenty five. Jillian Robertson is plus

1557
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 7: one oh five. Brian Robertson, most decorated submission artist in

1558
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,719
Speaker 7: UFC women's history, now her second straight at strawweight after

1559
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 7: an extended and productive run at flyweight. Your thoughts on

1560
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 7: Ricci and Robertson here in an ESPN pre.

1561
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 8: I like to move to strawweight, and I got a

1562
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 8: shout out Tatum Temple, a fan of myself. She takes

1563
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 8: she tracks all my bets on that bet MMA tips

1564
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 8: you know, so you know Hanni kappers.

1565
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 4: That's what they do, like, hey, you know, you gotta

1566
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 4: track your bets. So she does all that for me.

1567
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 4: She's great.

1568
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 8: She's a sharp as well, really sharp in the female

1569
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 8: She just uh message me and Iigene said, put everything

1570
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 8: on Jillian Robertson. Unfortunately, though I like to have it

1571
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 8: the retail like Baby Shark here, Julian Robertson is is

1572
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 8: very good in the ground. And Tabitha Ricci besides the

1573
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 8: f your fight, really likes to take the fight to

1574
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 8: the ground. But she got tight arms. She keeps the

1575
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 8: jiu jitsu tight, short little arms. Julian Robertson's best. I mean,

1576
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 8: she's got great jiu jitsu, but her best ability off

1577
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 8: her back and even on top of his arm bars.

1578
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 8: Don't know if she's hitt an arm bar could be

1579
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 8: a joke. But Baby Shark, I think is slowly really

1580
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 8: starting to find her groove in UFC. Hasn't fought with

1581
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 8: the high level women's besides men in f ROW. But

1582
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 8: I like I like Baby Shark. This baby number minus

1583
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 8: one twenty five. I think this line's gonna maybe move

1584
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 8: a lot this week. We're doing this obviously early in

1585
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 8: the week h am, I gonna.

1586
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 4: Run to the window.

1587
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 8: No, but uh yeah, give me time of the regia.

1588
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 8: I think I think she wins a decision.

1589
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: Chie's life favorite right now.

1590
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 7: Jillian Robertson continues to look for new training environments. I

1591
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 7: saw her at Roger Crawls and in a science academy

1592
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 7: a few weeks ago. A lot of people like her

1593
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 7: in this division Ken Flow, but a tough match up

1594
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 7: here against baby Shark Tabatha Reachi.

1595
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 1: Which way you going?

1596
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, this is a tricky one. Richie can

1597
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 5: grapple man, you know. And I think she's a decent

1598
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 5: striker as well. But I'm leaning I'm leaving Robertson here.

1599
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 5: I do like Jillian. I've seen her train, you know,

1600
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 5: very dedicated to the game. I think she has one

1601
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 5: of the best ground games in the UFC period. Uh

1602
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 5: And you know, I think she's gonna be riding high

1603
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 5: on confidence, you know, has some momentum here.

1604
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 3: And I like I like her in this fight.

1605
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna come down to grappling eventually, and

1606
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 5: I think she's gonna surprise Reachie on my ground.

1607
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 3: How good she is Ricci again.

1608
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 5: Black belt jitsu from a good team I think it's

1609
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 5: going to be close, but I like Jillian.

1610
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 7: And Dean Thomas will be chiefing the corner of one.

1611
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 7: Jillian Robertson. And one thing Dean said to me recently,

1612
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 7: you know, he trains fighters to finish. And he was

1613
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 7: sort of responding to a conversation that I had opened

1614
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 7: up with him about offensive jiu jitsu. And I said,

1615
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 7: every week I'm banging this drum with Kenny talking about

1616
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 7: offensive jiu jitsu, and He's like, if you notice my

1617
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 7: fighters we trained to finish, and Jillian Robertson is certainly a.

1618
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: Great example of that.

1619
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 7: All right, did welterweight Randy Brown minus two forty five

1620
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 7: Wellington Ternman plus two h five So rude boy had

1621
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 7: won four in a row, ran into the Jack Della

1622
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 7: matt Atlanta train in Perth earlier this year. At UFC

1623
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 7: two eighty four, now faces the divisional newcomer Wellington Urman.

1624
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 7: He fought the first fourteen fights of his pro career

1625
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 7: as a one hundred and seventy pound fighter, but the

1626
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 7: entire seven fight run for Wellington turnament in the UFC

1627
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 7: has been at Middleway, perhaps training alongside Alex Padeta. There

1628
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 7: In Dan Bury, Connecticut gave him pause about an extended

1629
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 7: ron at eighty five, BP will start with you Randy

1630
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 7: Brown minus two forty five, Well it's determined plus two

1631
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 7: oh five root By.

1632
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 8: I think root Boy is gonna be a lot of

1633
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 8: mortal locked this week. I think a lot of kapper

1634
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 8: is gonna run in the window and go lock this

1635
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 8: guy up. I think it's a little high problem with

1636
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 8: this fight. I'm picking rude boy Wellington cutting one seventy.

1637
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 8: But Wellington is very aggressive with his takedowns. He does

1638
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 8: have good jiu jitsu, and when Randy Brown gets taken

1639
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 8: down and put on his back. We were just talking

1640
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 8: about Dean Thomas' offensive jitsu, there's not much. It's a

1641
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 8: closed guard game. He doesn't really He tries to work

1642
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 8: up sometimes, but he's not trying. He's a big seventy,

1643
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 8: so he's not trying to waste his energy. There's really

1644
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 8: nothing there. So I can see Wellings determined really dragging

1645
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 8: this fight out if he has cardio cutting that weight

1646
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 8: problem is that? Do you think wellingt determin had a

1647
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 8: little bit of a chim problem at one eighty five

1648
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 8: cutting down the one seven, you think, oh, I'm gonna

1649
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 8: be the big dog on the block, not with Randy Brown.

1650
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 8: I think Randy Brown has good footwork, good movement, long

1651
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,560
Speaker 8: range strikes. I think if he can avoid the takedowns,

1652
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 8: he can finish Wellington determined. Don't know if a finish

1653
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 8: is gonna happen. Minus two forty five.

1654
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 4: Little steep for your boy. Could be a.

1655
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 8: Parlay piece if you really love Randy Brown. But I'm

1656
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 8: gonna shy away, but my pick is rudeby Ken Flow.

1657
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 7: Randy Brown tried to change his professional life by accepting

1658
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 7: that Jack Della mattelen a fight in the belly of

1659
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 7: the Beast on the road. It did not go his way.

1660
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 7: Now he'll try to get untracked against Wellington. Terman, which

1661
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 7: way you're going here?

1662
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think.

1663
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 5: That's gonna be part of the reason that we see

1664
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 5: much better Randy Brown this time around. You know, I

1665
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 5: think he has so much potential. We've talked about this before.

1666
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:31,759
Speaker 5: A great lengths for the division, excellent jab when it's firing.

1667
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 5: I think he needs to get that volume going in

1668
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 5: this fight. But he definitely needs to be able to

1669
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 5: stop the takedowns here against Wellington. I think Wellington is

1670
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 5: a problem on the ground and a very interesting style

1671
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 5: matchup for Randy here. But I like Randy in this matchup.

1672
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 5: I think the odds are a little bit high. I

1673
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,839
Speaker 5: do see some value in Wellington tournament, but I'm sticking

1674
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 5: with rudeby.

1675
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 7: My third preliminary fight that we will pick today and

1676
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 7: again don't forget first fight like eleven thirty am this

1677
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 7: weekend on ESPN Main Card, three pm Eastern Time, live

1678
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 7: on ABC. Also with welterweight the divisions all time wins

1679
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 7: leader Neil Magni minus one fifty here against Phil Rowe,

1680
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 7: who is plus one thirty. Rose won ten of eleven

1681
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 7: bryce since starting his MMA career at zero to two,

1682
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 7: three straight knockouts tkos have set up the biggest fight

1683
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 7: of Phil Roe's career. This matchup with Neil Magni pretty

1684
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 7: close on paper. Brian, which way are you're going?

1685
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 8: What Neil Magni is going to show up? I mean,

1686
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 8: this is the guy who's fought fifty times.

1687
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 4: What does that mean? The guy's been around forever?

1688
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 8: Is it the Daniel Rodriguez Neil Magni where he looked

1689
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 8: like you look great and was like, hey, I'm gonna

1690
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 8: take this dude.

1691
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 3: Down.

1692
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 8: I'm gonna beat him up, gonna sumit him. Or is

1693
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,759
Speaker 8: it Danil Magne who looks flat? You know, Phil Rowe

1694
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 8: is a guy who's been he's been in the USC

1695
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 8: for a little bit and he's not the most active guy.

1696
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 8: He's also does have the most wins, or excuse me,

1697
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 8: the best wins. I mean, you can go out there

1698
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 8: and sleep. Jason Witt cool, but now you got a

1699
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 8: Now you got Neil Magni here. I actually liked the

1700
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 8: number on Neil Magnie. I thought it'd be a little

1701
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 8: bit higher. Phil Row, you know, coming off a good

1702
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 8: knockout win. You know he was kind of losing that fight.

1703
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 8: He's getting how struck, but you know found the chin.

1704
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 8: Neil Magni is durable. You're not gonna find Neil Magnet's

1705
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 8: tim But again it's all about Neil. What Neil shows up.

1706
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 8: I see takedowns. Phil Row has been doing a lot

1707
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 8: of grappling outside the UFC. You know, he's comfortable, he's back,

1708
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 8: he's tricky, he's long. Him and Neil are built very

1709
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 8: the same, but the same. But Neil uses that read

1710
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 8: so well. And I think the X factor is the

1711
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 8: grappling give me Neil Magni for another dub.

1712
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 7: Donhow Neil Magni has made a career of winning fights

1713
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 7: like this.

1714
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: He is twenty and nine in the UFC.

1715
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 7: Your thoughts on him as a slight favorite here against

1716
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 7: the adopted Floridian Phil Row.

1717
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a very tricky one because of that

1718
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 5: they are very similar in height and build. I think

1719
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 5: that Phil definitely has some good momentum heading into this fight.

1720
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 5: Neil Magni is definitely going to have a superior job.

1721
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 5: I'm curious to see who wins the takedown game. I

1722
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 5: think I don't know if the fight necessarily one or

1723
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 5: loss there, but I do think it's going to play

1724
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 5: a major factor. And I agree with Brian. That was

1725
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 5: one thing that I kept going back to. I know

1726
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 5: Phil is really crushing the grappling training and training with

1727
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 5: some high level guys, but I see value there for Phil,

1728
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 5: and Neil has a ton of experience, but it's hard

1729
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 5: to go with someone who has been inconsistent, and I

1730
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 5: don't know, I think Phil has some consistency now. I

1731
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 5: think he's going to have confidence here and this is

1732
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 5: a fight if he wants to start to get more

1733
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 5: high profile fight team need to win like this over

1734
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 5: like Neil Magni. No easy task, but I think there's

1735
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 5: value enough for me to go. Phil rose Way here, Phil.

1736
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 7: Rowe plus one point thirty right now on Draftking Sportsbook,

1737
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 7: and he has put in the training camp of his life.

1738
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,759
Speaker 7: We'll see if it produces the desired result this weekend

1739
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 7: on ESPN. All right, before we get to the main card,

1740
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 7: I would like to circle back to the pronunciation of

1741
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 7: the week.

1742
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 3: Let's go.

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01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 7: Rian Petrie is now going to handle this exercise moving forward.

1744
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,600
Speaker 7: You knew we had to start with a Brazilian. Of course,

1745
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 7: I thought maybe it add some melody to it. But

1746
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 7: this is a flyweight who competes against Tatsuro Tyra this weekend.

1747
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 7: He fights out of a mapa brazil initials k R.

1748
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 7: That is also his nickname, k R. Brian Petrie of

1749
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 7: whom am I speak?

1750
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 8: So I didn't listen in the file, I did practice.

1751
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 8: I don't practice anything, right, I take a couple of notes,

1752
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 8: don't practice. I did practice in the mirror. So I'm

1753
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 8: gonna go Clinton Hadi that fucking nailed or what I mean?

1754
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll hear it glaie g soon.

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01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 7: Okay, So there's a lot to unpack. I mean, you know,

1756
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 7: I don't know if you nailed it. Ken Flow is

1757
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 7: an expert here, right, but it sounded like there were

1758
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 7: two different people saying Cleags and Haudriguez. So that's who

1759
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 7: we go with on broadcat as clayg Just and Hadriguez.

1760
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 7: But the name name he says ka Eh or ka

1761
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 7: Eh right, which is so we don't go ka ehy

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01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 7: on the broadcast like we go k r right, just Saez.

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01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if your your first name was good

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01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: enough to give you.

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01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 7: A point, thank you. Then I just have one more

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01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 7: file that we are just going to play. And this

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01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 7: is just for fun, because I know Ken Flow has

1768
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 7: a healthy appreciation for this. So Kenny has called a

1769
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 7: PFL fight involving Lowekrajabob, right, but this weekend lowek Raja

1770
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 7: Bob in Jacksonville is fighting a very talented UFC lightweight

1771
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 7: by the name of Mattauge round Becky or round Betsky. Right,

1772
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 7: it's spelled r e b e c k I, so

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01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 7: it looks like Rebeccy on paper. The Polish names historically

1774
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 7: are the most challenging for us on the UFC telecast,

1775
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 7: so Mattauge. We know because of Matauje Gamra, who's also Polish.

1776
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 7: But let's hear how Mattaus round Becky or whatever the

1777
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 7: fuck it is uh says his name. And then I

1778
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 7: want to hear how Kenny thinks I should say this

1779
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 7: on broadcast.

1780
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 3: I'm I'm Mattoos round Betski.

1781
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 7: That's kid round Beski, right, so, but there isn't an

1782
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 7: N in there, right, so the name begins r E

1783
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 7: B and we're saying round Betski or whatever, right, So

1784
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 7: it's just look just I thought that'd be pretty cool

1785
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 7: for fans to write the word starts R E B

1786
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 7: and my phonetic begins R O U N. Like it's insane,

1787
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 7: you know, Joannik told us way back in the day,

1788
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:47,799
Speaker 7: like your mouths cannot make the sounds necessary to pronounce.

1789
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 7: We'll leave it at that, all right, let us get

1790
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 7: to the main car boys, thanks for indulging me on

1791
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 7: the pronunciation of the week. We'll begin with a huge

1792
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 7: fight at middleweight live on ABC. Thirteenth rank contender Brennan

1793
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 7: Allen mona one sixty five. Bruno Silva is plus one forty.

1794
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 7: Brendan Allen is one of the best middleweights in the world.

1795
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 7: In my opinion, Kenny, He's won four in a row

1796
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 7: five of six, always willing to prove his status as

1797
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 7: one of the best well midleweights in the world. As such,

1798
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 7: accepting a fight here against the uber dangerous Bruno Silva

1799
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 7: Silva coming off a TKO win over Brad tavoris not

1800
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 7: all that long ago. On April twenty second, Well star

1801
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,759
Speaker 7: with Ken Flow here Brendan Allen the favorite or Bruno

1802
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 7: Silva the duck?

1803
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, so, Brendan Allen I think has some

1804
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 5: great momentum heading into this fight.

1805
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:31,719
Speaker 3: As you mentioned.

1806
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 5: I think he has an extremely well rounded game, perhaps

1807
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 5: a more well rounded game than Bruno Silva. I don't

1808
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 5: know if he hits as hard as Bruno Sila, but

1809
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 5: I think he's got more weapons. He just needs to

1810
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 5: go out there and use them all in this fight,

1811
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 5: including his grappling, and I think if he does that,

1812
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,799
Speaker 5: he'll be able to outpoint Bruno Silva. But Bruno Silva

1813
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 5: is extremely durable, Okay, we saw him go fifteen four

1814
01:21:55,840 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 5: minutes against Pereira. I think he's an excellent kickboxer. He's

1815
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 5: got big time knockout power. So Brendan Allen really has

1816
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 5: to be very defensively responsible in this one. For sure,

1817
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 5: can't give him any free shots. But I think where

1818
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 5: Brendan Allen can maybe do well here in this fight

1819
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 5: is kind of grounding him out, getting him tired, getting

1820
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 5: you know, using a grappling heavy game in this one.

1821
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 5: But Bruno is extremely dangerous. He's always dangerous, So I

1822
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 5: gotta watch this one. I'm actually going to sit out

1823
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 5: this one.

1824
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 3: No, this one I am. I'm gonna be uh, I'll

1825
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 3: be over here.

1826
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: I like that.

1827
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 7: No, I like that, And it's an important reminder for

1828
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 7: the audience. These guys can't abstain from one selection. They

1829
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 7: can also pick an additional prelimit light that's not on

1830
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 7: the board. Brian Petrie Brendan Allen minus one sixty five

1831
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 7: Bruno Silva plus one forty, Will you have a selection?

1832
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 8: I I love what Ken Filaw did there, because this

1833
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 8: fight is just trouble. This can be trouble for my

1834
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 8: bank account. This is gonna be trouble for alighting because

1835
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 8: I like Bruno Silva. But Brendan Allen is so hot

1836
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 8: right now and he's really find his groove. He's so

1837
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 8: young as well. Problem is Brendon Allen's been hit before

1838
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 8: and he's been put out before. Bruno Silva could knock

1839
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 8: anybody out. But you look at the Jared Mrscuard fight,

1840
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 8: and Brendan Allen is a more athletic, more aggressive Jared

1841
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 8: Mrscard in my opinion, and Jared Mrscard bodied Bruno Silva.

1842
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 8: But I really think that that loss from Brunosolva, back

1843
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 8: to back losses, I think that changed him little bit.

1844
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 8: He looked he looked rejuvenated in the Brad Tavares fight.

1845
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 8: He's a veteran as well. And Bruno Silva's career Achilles

1846
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 8: heel has been submissions. Brendon Allen coming off Andrew Munette's

1847
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 8: sumission is right and high in confidence. I did, if

1848
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 8: I get someone on the ground, I'm taking something right.

1849
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 8: I love the confidence by this young man. But Bruno

1850
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 8: Silva's got that one touch. And I think if Brendan

1851
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 8: Allen and He's got seventy one percent takedown the fence

1852
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 8: as well. So Brendon Allen, who I don't think has

1853
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 8: the best takedowns, is big for the way class could

1854
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 8: take Bruno Silvo down. I think he's gonna struggle a

1855
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 8: little bit and if you get touched by Bruno Silva.

1856
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 8: He's not the fastest guy in the world. He's got

1857
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 8: good time and he's got big power. And you're hanging

1858
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 8: plus one forty one fifty on me. You know I'm

1859
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 8: gonna take the doll shot, give me the dog shot.

1860
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,799
Speaker 8: Bruno Silva ain't picking against it because I know, come Saturday,

1861
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 8: when I'm sitting there, friend the TV rate to place bets,

1862
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go all in. I'm gonna convince myself and

1863
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 8: I'm gonna be like, what am I fucking doing? Bran

1864
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 8: Allen's a very good fighter and he could easily win

1865
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 8: this fight. This is a really good fight.

1866
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: All right, big fight at eighty five. We'll see how

1867
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 1: it plays out.

1868
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,759
Speaker 7: Next up at featherweight, Gabriel Santos minus two thirty David

1869
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 7: Onama plus one ninety five. Onam has been out a while,

1870
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 7: hasn't fought since the loss to Nate Land where last August.

1871
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 7: He has had a couple of fight cancelations thus far

1872
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 7: this year, and then on the other side, Brian, how

1873
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 7: about Gabriel Santos right, definitely looked ready for the big

1874
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 7: show and his debut short notice against Larn Murphy at

1875
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 7: UFC two to eighty six. I would argue he might

1876
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 7: have won the fight. One of the judges actually gave

1877
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 7: him all three rounds. So now Santo spins it forward,

1878
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 7: perhaps prohibitively favored against the talented David o'ama.

1879
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 8: Which way you go, I mean, Lara Murphy. I have

1880
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 8: high regards for so Gabri Santos immediately made my big

1881
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,480
Speaker 8: board of guys to watch after that performance.

1882
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 4: His performance is outside of the UFC before getting in this.

1883
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 4: He's very good too. His record is is pretty balanced.

1884
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 4: It's not like weak. You see a lot of weak

1885
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 4: records sometimes. But David o'nama is a really good fighter.

1886
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 8: I mean, I know he lost to Nate Landweir and

1887
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 8: I know, I mean, we're not going to say his name,

1888
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 8: but there's a head coach that I don't want to

1889
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 8: get a blow dart my neck by the commission, but

1890
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 8: there's a head coach that used to coach this guy,

1891
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 8: and that kind of unrabbled everything after his fight. But

1892
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 8: uh o'nama's very good, and he's good on the ground

1893
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 8: as well. That's what that's interesting. He's big, he's good

1894
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 8: on the ground, My problem with Onama is defense, right,

1895
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 8: His defense really isn't there.

1896
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 4: He's got great punches, doesn't.

1897
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 8: Overwhelm me a volume, He's big, hasn't shown a ton

1898
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 8: of power yet. The Mason Jones fight, though, showed incredible heart,

1899
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 8: and Cardio Landweer fight though he kind of broke. So

1900
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 8: I'm a little curious of what Anama's going to show up.

1901
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 8: And I can't I get the Google eyes. I mean,

1902
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 8: CLD burned me last week because of the Google guys,

1903
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 8: so I'm not going to get the Google ass or Santos,

1904
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 8: even though I think he's a great guy.

1905
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 4: And when you're giving me plus one.

1906
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,480
Speaker 8: Eighty five against David Onama, who is a great prospect,

1907
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 8: that's a big number.

1908
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 4: I think he can win this fight.

1909
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,759
Speaker 8: And again I'm looking at value, and that's a value play.

1910
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 8: You play the number, not the fighter. I think Onama

1911
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 8: can go out there, win the decision, possibly take over

1912
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 8: the fight.

1913
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 4: So give me Devid Onama. Let's see what he's got.

1914
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was way off in terms of my prediction

1915
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 7: for what this betting line would be. I thought Santos

1916
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 7: would be minus one seventy five. He's minus two thirty, right,

1917
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 7: now on DraftKings Sportsbook. Can flow any value for you

1918
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 7: on Onama or do you like the Chuck selection Gabriel Santos.

1919
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 5: Oh, I definitely think there's some value on Onama. I

1920
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 5: wonder where his head is at after that loss against

1921
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 5: land Where. I know in January he went over to

1922
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 5: Colorado's training over at Factory X now, which which may

1923
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,839
Speaker 5: be a good change for him. But you don't become

1924
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 5: a great grappler overnight. You don't become a great grappler

1925
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 5: in six months. And I think some of the things

1926
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 5: I saw on the ground against land Where was troubling.

1927
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 5: To be honest, you know, his grappling has to be

1928
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 5: way better than that. I think that's why we see

1929
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 5: this number here for Santos, who could be a problem

1930
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 5: on the ground now, Santos could be a problem on

1931
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 5: the feet as well. I don't know if he wants

1932
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 5: to stand for fifty minutes against someone like Gonama. I

1933
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 5: think Onama is going to be very dangerous. But you know,

1934
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 5: the other the other hesitation for me and Onama is

1935
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 5: the condition. You know, he just completely gassed out in

1936
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 5: that fight obviously an insane pace against Lane where. But

1937
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 5: I think that hurt him. Santos can go dude. He

1938
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 5: can go hard for fifteen minutes. I think he can

1939
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 5: mix things up for fifteen minutes. Where he needs to

1940
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 5: be careful though, is standing in front of Gonama for

1941
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 5: too long. I see value for Anama. I'm hesitant. I'm

1942
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 5: going to stick with Santos here unless I see something

1943
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 5: different on you know, this fight week here, But I'm

1944
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:37,759
Speaker 5: going with the Brazilian Sentos nice.

1945
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:39,440
Speaker 1: We like the disagreement.

1946
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 7: That's at least two so far and three technically if

1947
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 7: you count Ken Flows. No selection on Bruno Silva and

1948
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,719
Speaker 7: Brendan Allen all right at heavyweight justin top of minus

1949
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 7: one eighty Austin Lane plus one fifty five. So this

1950
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 7: fight was promoted to the ABC main card largely, I

1951
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 7: think because Austin Lane is local. He fights out of Jacksonville, Florida.

1952
01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 7: He was drafted by the Jacksonville Jaguars in the fifth

1953
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:04,719
Speaker 7: round of the twenty ten NFL Draft. Second highest draft

1954
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 7: to cross into the UFC. Marcus Jones was a first

1955
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 7: round pick. Greg Hardy was picked in round six, and

1956
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 7: five years after we all watched Austin Lane get knocked

1957
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 7: out by Greg Hardy on Dana White's Contender series. He

1958
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 7: has put in the work, he has arrived at the

1959
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,679
Speaker 7: UFC debut and now Justin Batman, Tafa awaits Brian Petrie.

1960
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 7: Who do you like in the heavyweight matchup?

1961
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 3: Here?

1962
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 4: Some big boys? Yeah. I love Austin Lane.

1963
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 8: I mean that could have been the last we saw

1964
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 8: of him when he got knocked out by a good party.

1965
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 8: You know, it's like, oh, two form NFL guys. But

1966
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 8: he and he lost his next fight after that by knockout,

1967
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 8: and then now he's really putting together.

1968
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 4: That's a good mental toughness there.

1969
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 8: As far as skills go, he's athletic, obviously with his

1970
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,879
Speaker 8: previous background. I don't love the way he strikes necessarily,

1971
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 8: in my opinion, I think Tafa is a heavy hitter.

1972
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 8: I think Austin Lane's head is very hittable. His chin's

1973
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 8: up in the air, his hands are there. He wants

1974
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 8: to hit, and then he'll be like, I can take

1975
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 8: a hit, but let me hit you because he believes

1976
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 8: in his power. Wrong way to go against Justin Top

1977
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,679
Speaker 8: with the Batman. This dude can fucking crack. He's starting

1978
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 8: to really kind of shore up his cardio as well.

1979
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 8: I mean he's not the best cardio, but he's gone.

1980
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 8: You know, he's lost some muggy losses, but he's gone

1981
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 8: his last two. I want to see him a little

1982
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 8: more active here, hopefully these breaks away.

1983
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 4: He's to eat.

1984
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 8: He's working his takedown de fence, he's working his get

1985
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 8: up game. This guy's not gonna be Frank Mire off

1986
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 8: his back anytime soon, so let's get up off the mat.

1987
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 8: Give me Tafa by knockout. That's a prop I like

1988
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 8: as well. Probably not gonna be the juiciest number because

1989
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 8: Austin Lane has been knocked out before and that's all tough.

1990
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 4: It does knock people out, but that's the play.

1991
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 1: I like you.

1992
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 4: I would avoid the money line. I like I like

1993
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 4: Taugha by Ko. You can probably even go.

1994
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 8: Ko round one, get even juicier, but you know that's

1995
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 8: to be a selected another day.

1996
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 7: Give me tough, Yeah, tough for right now minus one

1997
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 7: eighty on the money line, probably closer to even money

1998
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 7: or minus one twenty or so if you like him

1999
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 7: by a knockout, coming in off a knockout. A Parker

2000
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 7: Porter at UFC two to eighty four in Perth. Inactivity

2001
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 7: has been part of the narrative on tap of missed

2002
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 7: all of twenty twenty two. Ken flow your thoughts on

2003
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 7: bad Man Tafa here against Austin Line and.

2004
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 5: For Top also, you know, I wonder sometimes about maybe

2005
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 5: perhaps work ethic. You know, he's missed wait a couple

2006
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 5: of times, I think, and I wonder about that. But

2007
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 5: he definitely has a lot of talent on the feet Man.

2008
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 5: He is a problem, I think for Austin Lane, who

2009
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,719
Speaker 5: at six foot six is an absolute monster.

2010
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 3: You know.

2011
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 5: I think he's going to try to try to take

2012
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 5: this bike to the ground. He'll use this strikes from

2013
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 5: the outside and try to take them down, probably up

2014
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,600
Speaker 5: against the cage or something like that. I don't know

2015
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 5: if he's gonna be able to do that against Top.

2016
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:33,640
Speaker 5: I think Top is a lot sharper with his wrestling.

2017
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 5: It's still very, very vulnerable on his back, as Brian

2018
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 5: alluded to, but I think he's got enough to keep

2019
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 5: it on the feet and land one of those big shots.

2020
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 5: I like Justin Top here and I'm willing to put

2021
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 5: two units on it.

2022
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 7: Who for that one woauties three hundred and sixty dollars

2023
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 7: to pay two hundred on Justin bad Man.

2024
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 8: I just want to clarify something. I think Kenny is

2025
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 8: so sharp the minute he puts extra units on people.

2026
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 8: I placed that fucking bet.

2027
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 3: I might right here.

2028
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 4: I know we're in a competition. I'm soustling. You don't

2029
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 4: talk a little bit whatever. No, no, no, this is

2030
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 4: the guy that I follow her here.

2031
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 7: Man, So all right, I love that, right, still trying

2032
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 7: to support Winny Patriot at the end of the day.

2033
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I gotta make money, all right.

2034
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 7: Comine have had at flyweight ninth threat to Amanda Heboss minus

2035
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 7: won sixty five taken on number eleven Macy Barber, who

2036
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 7: is plus one forty. As you guys know, He Boss

2037
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 7: has contended in two divisions, outpointed Viviani out of Ujo

2038
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 7: at UFC two to eighty five back in March. And

2039
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 7: on the other side, how about Macy Barber, right, don't

2040
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 7: look now, four wins in a row BP on the

2041
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 7: heels of a two fight skit in that February twenty

2042
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 7: twenty one loss to the now Champa Alexa Grosso. She's

2043
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 7: essentially been perfect ever since. Your thoughts on are here

2044
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:47,599
Speaker 7: in a huge spot against Amanda he Boss, So.

2045
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,679
Speaker 8: They might have to change my name from Big gun

2046
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 8: to dog the bounty on it because.

2047
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: I was open up all these dogs.

2048
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 4: I love Macy Barber here.

2049
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 8: Listen, many Heboss has landing a lot of takedowns in

2050
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 8: last fight. Macy Barber last four fights been taken down

2051
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 8: every single time, but she works away.

2052
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 4: To the feet.

2053
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 8: And if Macy Barber comes out with that bad bitch,

2054
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 8: mean attitude and Mandy Heboss is hit able and has

2055
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 8: been finished before on the feet, I like that. I

2056
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 8: feel like Macy Barber. Though she started off really hot

2057
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 8: the knee injury, losing a roxy, she hasn't really found

2058
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 8: her way yet, right and there's been a lot of

2059
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 8: fights or whatever. But I do think she's gonna start

2060
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 8: slowly finding her way. You know, she said, you want

2061
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 8: to be the youngest champ that's now gone. Let's get

2062
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 8: some wins, and a big win over Mandy Hebos is

2063
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 8: gonna put you right there plus one fifty five. I

2064
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:32,559
Speaker 8: think this could be a close fight. I think this

2065
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 8: is going to be you're holding your ticket seeing what

2066
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:36,639
Speaker 8: kind of judges are on this night. You know, see

2067
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 8: what Jacksonville's got to have for us. But I like

2068
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 8: I like Macy Barber here man the younger, aggressive fighter.

2069
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 8: I love him and Heboss, her disposition. She seems like

2070
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 8: the nicest, sweetest girl in the world.

2071
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 4: Easy to root for.

2072
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 8: But you know, I'm not trying to make friends here

2073
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:50,879
Speaker 8: plus one fifty five give me Macy Barber.

2074
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 1: I can't pull Macy Barber, Amanda Heboss. Which way going?

2075
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 3: All right?

2076
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 5: For those that are watching on video, Let's see if

2077
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,679
Speaker 5: we can we can see Brian squir a minute chair here.

2078
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 3: You know, I this fight.

2079
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 5: This is very interesting and Macy Barber is extremely tough man.

2080
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 5: She's going to fight to the very end. I just

2081
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 5: think this is a very difficult matchup for her because

2082
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 5: I think she does her best work when she.

2083
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 3: Is taking people down.

2084
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,640
Speaker 5: Can't she take down he Boss here, who is a

2085
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 5: judo black belt? I don't think so. I think he

2086
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 5: Boss is going to be a little too technical on

2087
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 5: the feed for her. I think they're about even when

2088
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 5: it comes to striking. Maybe Macy has a little bit

2089
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 5: more power. I think he Boss needs to be aware there.

2090
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,839
Speaker 5: But you know, I don't know if one can finish

2091
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 5: the other. But I like hebos Here. I like us

2092
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 5: here so much. I want to put three units on

2093
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 5: Man Boss. I think she's going to be able to

2094
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 5: hit takedowns. I think she's gonna be able to stop

2095
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 5: the takedowns of Macy Barber. I think Macy's gonna get

2096
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 5: frustrated here and Hebos finds a way to win.

2097
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: So look at this guy pulling out.

2098
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 6: Nervous.

2099
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 4: Well, now what the fuck am I supposed to.

2100
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm so fry.

2101
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 8: I'm rocking o Barber. That was a fight that now

2102
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 8: gave me the most trouble. And I dove into the

2103
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 8: archives and I'm like, man, I just think Barbara can

2104
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 8: get a decision here.

2105
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 7: So you have up to five units to extend. Ken

2106
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 7: Flow's going a two unit play on Justin Tafa and

2107
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 7: a three unit four hundred and ninety five dollars wager

2108
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 7: on Amanda Hebas. Don't have to tell the audience that

2109
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 7: fight that comain event this week and a massive swing

2110
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 7: between these two gentlemen. All right, right back to Ken

2111
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 7: Flow to lead us off for the main event in

2112
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 7: the men's featherweight division. Why price here right now on

2113
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 7: DraftKings Sportsbook, Illoa Toputia minus three point thirty, So a

2114
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 7: three hundred and thirty dollars straight bet on Topotio would

2115
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 7: yield one hundred dollars back Josh Ammatas plus two to

2116
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 7: seventy five. As you guys know, this fight has taking

2117
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 7: place just two weeks prior to Alexander Volkanovski and Yaya

2118
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 7: Rodriguez unifying the titles in this division. As fought Rodriguez

2119
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 7: for the interim Belton Perth earlier this year. Largely he

2120
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 7: was dominated by a very on point. Yeah you're Rodriguez.

2121
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 7: Toporti's never lost undefeated, Kenny. He submitted Bryce Mitchell last

2122
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,640
Speaker 7: December to move to thirteen and oh five and oh

2123
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,600
Speaker 7: with four finishes in the UFC. Kenny, your thoughts on

2124
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 7: Topoitia in a main event here live on ABC against

2125
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 7: Josh Emma.

2126
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 5: Dude, Right now, my brain is doing shuttle runs back

2127
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 5: and forth between Emmett and Topouria to this moment. But

2128
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 5: you know, when I break it down and I'm thinking

2129
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 5: about value plays here, I look at both of their

2130
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 5: games here, but I think there's great value on Emmett,

2131
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:38,480
Speaker 5: a guy who has so much experience. I think Tolpuria

2132
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 5: is very fundamentally sound. We have seen him hit, we

2133
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 5: have seen him hurt, We've seen him battle back. But

2134
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 5: I don't know if you battle back against a shot

2135
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 5: like Emmett. If Emmett hits you, he hurts you, and

2136
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 5: you don't really come back. Emmett has great killer instinct

2137
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 5: when he gets you out of there. And I think,

2138
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 5: assuming he still is in this game mentally, physically, spiritually,

2139
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:07,639
Speaker 5: I have to imagine he's going to learn a lot

2140
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 5: from that last fight against Yayi Rodriguez. I don't see

2141
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 5: Tolpuria having that type of Yayyear type speed.

2142
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:16,600
Speaker 3: Very few do.

2143
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 5: There's like maybe top point one percent in the UFC

2144
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:23,679
Speaker 5: have that kind of speed. Topouria, he's fast, He's not slow,

2145
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 5: but he's more The pace that he keeps is more

2146
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 5: this consistent rhythm. There's a movement and and it does

2147
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 5: well against those kind of guys. He can get his

2148
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 5: timing against guys like that, and that's what worries me

2149
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 5: in this fight Topouria. I think if he's able to

2150
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Speaker 5: take down Emmett, I think that's his best best path

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Speaker 5: to victory. Can he do that against Emmett though, and

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Speaker 5: can he do that consistently?

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Speaker 3: I'm not so sure.

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Speaker 5: So Emmitt does have to be careful with his kicks

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Speaker 5: supposed you know, especially you know, he doesn't want those

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Speaker 5: kicks to get caught and have Topouria on top of him.

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Speaker 3: That's where Topouria can.

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Speaker 5: Can not only win this fight, but finish this fight.

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Speaker 5: But I think there's enough value for Emmett here for

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Speaker 5: me where at plus two seventy five. I like it.

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Speaker 5: I have a lot of, you know, respect for Tipuria.

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Speaker 5: I think there's a guy who could definitely fight with

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Speaker 5: the belt in the future. But I think Emmett still

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Speaker 5: if he's mentally, physically, spiritually in it.

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Speaker 3: I like Emmett here. I think he can get this

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Speaker 3: this win.

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Speaker 7: And I do believe that he is mentally, physically and

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Speaker 7: spiritually still in it. I believe he feels like now

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Speaker 7: after the year right, you're Rodriguez result, this is the

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Speaker 7: last ditch effort, to make one final concerted effort. It

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Speaker 7: is crazy to me, Brian to see a plus two

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Speaker 7: seventy five next to Josh Emmett, just given the fact

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Speaker 7: that Eliot to Portia is a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Untested in the UFC.

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Speaker 7: And I say that with all due respect to Bryce

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Speaker 7: Mitchell and the strength of his schedule, but Josh Emmett

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Speaker 7: has spent years against this division's elite. So with that backdrop,

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Speaker 7: any value for you on Emmett or are you bullish

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Speaker 7: on to Poitier at minus three thirty or otherwise?

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Speaker 8: I mean, of course when he's when you hang out

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Speaker 8: plus two seventy on a guy like Josh Hemmett.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're looking at it. You're looking at it good.

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Speaker 4: And I like the quick turn. This is a guy usually.

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Speaker 8: Fights and breaks his whole body, takes eighteen months off

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Speaker 8: and he goes.

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Speaker 4: Back right quick turn against a brutal fire. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 4: yea raria is.

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Speaker 8: I don't know who, maybe Alexion of Volkanowski, but I

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Speaker 8: don't know who else is beating him. That night he

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Speaker 8: was on fucking fire and Emma took some hilatious shots

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Speaker 8: and obviously got finished on the ground. So Poory is

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Speaker 8: a guy who I have faded. I mean I picked

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Speaker 8: Bryce Mitchell against him. I was one of my bad takes,

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Speaker 8: my bad bets. I mean I was there live.

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Speaker 4: I saw it.

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Speaker 8: Bryce gott ragdog, No, you have the flu or whatever.

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Speaker 8: But I keep getting my own way because I know

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Speaker 8: Twoporio goes American top team, but he does a lot

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Speaker 8: of his camps out in Spain.

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Speaker 4: Spain's not like a hotbed for MMA.

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Speaker 8: There's not like a ton of guys out there, So

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Speaker 8: I get my own head going, wait, he's not really

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01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 8: training with anybody, right, But then you watch the guy's skills.

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Speaker 8: His boxing is phenomenal. His strength is there as well.

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Speaker 8: He's popped up to fifty five, got hurt by Ji Herbert.

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Speaker 8: Now he's forty five, which I think the compact body.

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Speaker 8: His strength is there, speed kills right, emmtt's timing is

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Speaker 8: really good.

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Speaker 4: He's fast. He's not the slowes skuy in.

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Speaker 8: Division, big big power, but it's timing is really fucking good.

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Speaker 8: And uh to Poria has got to be on his toes.

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Speaker 8: I'm like Kenny. I was back and forth on this

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Speaker 8: as well. But since Kenny's latest dick out on the

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Speaker 8: table three or four times with the three unit two unit,

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Speaker 8: I gotta do something. I thought, Hey, I'm not going

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Speaker 8: to add extra units because I'm taking a lot of dogs. Here,

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Speaker 8: give me five unis Onoria. We need to get back

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Speaker 8: in this baby. Five unis on TOI Porio day.

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Speaker 1: That's the way to do.

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Speaker 7: That is perhaps the largest singular bet of the year,

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Speaker 7: sixteen hundred and fifty dollars on Ilio Toporia to win

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Speaker 7: five hundred for Brian Petrie for home. Fear is just

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01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 7: not a factor and if you want more from him,

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01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 7: it's at Brian Petrie.

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Speaker 1: Mma. Glad you're home safely, buddy.

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Speaker 7: Best to the family, and uh, we'll talk to you

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Speaker 7: next Monday, if not soon.

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Speaker 8: I gotta get this in, Johnny. I got a prelim pick.

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01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 8: I gotta get it because you know I need I

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01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 8: need the points. But we got so I could go

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01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 8: zalgas again. Everyone's running from the haircut. You know I

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01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 8: could go test retire minus three hundred. You're gonna see

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01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 8: a lot of guys going. That's my best bet of

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Speaker 8: the weekend. It's minus three hundred, asshole. I'm gonna give

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Speaker 8: you a dog here. Jack Jenkins against Jamal Emers at

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01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 8: plus one forty screams crazy to me. Jamal Emers has

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01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:16,719
Speaker 8: a ton, a ton of experience, good wrestlers, fought everyone

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01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 8: but Jack Jenkins. If he's on point, this kid's a problem,

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01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 8: good grappler, good striker. And you're hanging plus one forty

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Speaker 8: on me. Already placed the bet, It's already locked up

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01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 8: in DraftKings, Jack Jenkins.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 7: I like that bar, Jack Jenkins and my apologies for

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01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,680
Speaker 7: short change.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, we'll be in touch.

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Speaker 7: I'm actually gonna be a Disney World on Monday, so

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Speaker 7: it might be Monday night or Tuesday, but we will.

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Speaker 7: We will take that off the air. Appreciate your contributions

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Speaker 7: as always, Kid, We'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 4: See you boys.

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Speaker 7: All right, that's it for the main event challenge and

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Speaker 7: we got to get on ata here. Thanks to everybody

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Speaker 7: watching on the DraftKings YouTube channel on the newly minted

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Speaker 7: DraftKings Network audio side. Nothing changes. We appreciate everybody's support

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Speaker 1: Don't forget.

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Speaker 7: If you are in the Boston area, Kenny's going to

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Speaker 7: be at the Floridan Martial Arts Center on Monday night.

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Speaker 7: And I also would encourage you to follow Argus Integrated

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Speaker 7: Defense on Instagram as well. Trust me on that one,

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Speaker 7: You'll go down a rabbit hole and you'll spend your

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Speaker 7: whole day on the feed like I did. Thank you

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Speaker 7: to our guest Ray longgo and Brian Petree. The executive

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Speaker 7: producer of this fine program is Cody Merrow, who will

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Speaker 7: have a lot of fun in post with me falling

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Speaker 7: out of the chair and breaking it today.

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Speaker 1: Thank y'all for listen. We are back either Monday night

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Speaker 1: or Tuesday to.

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Speaker 7: Look back at Josh, Emmett and Iliatpuria and get you

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Speaker 7: ready for another UFC Live event next weekend.

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Speaker 1: Until then, be well, be safe, health and happiness you'll.

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