WEBVTT - Part Two: The Well Hung Warlord Who Tried to Conquer China

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<v Speaker 1>M what's starving my refugee population with zoid product. Jesus, Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>what a mess. Oh my god, Fuck Chris, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta pull me out of this tails. Then we're

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<v Speaker 1>on a starting on a terrible, terrible note. Here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're it's okay, We're we're, We're We're back, Part two,

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<v Speaker 1>Part two, The Rise of the Working Class. We're we're back,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're back. We're back in warlords with hell fucking

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<v Speaker 1>everybody gotta dick the size of a bunch of coins,

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<v Speaker 1>just just a radi war criminal. And now we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>watch an awful part. Okay, good god, he does have

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<v Speaker 1>it coming. He does have it. I like his I

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<v Speaker 1>like his hotspah. But yeah, he's got it coming. Thrilled

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<v Speaker 1>to hear that we are going to fuck him up.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go out, let's have his upants come first, We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna first. We're gonna sunk up a lot of other people.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah. On May nineteenth, a group of eight factory

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<v Speaker 1>delegates representing striking workers at a Japanese controlled cotton plant

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<v Speaker 1>in Shanghai met with their opposite number from the factory

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<v Speaker 1>to discussed the workers demands. A brawl broke out in

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<v Speaker 1>a Japanese foreman murdered a well established labor organizer, and

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<v Speaker 1>the resulting fight injured the other seven delegates. Now this

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for very obvious reasons, Piste off Shanghai's unions,

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<v Speaker 1>and ten thousand workers, which was at that point one

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<v Speaker 1>of the largest demonstrations of workers in Shanghai's history, showed

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<v Speaker 1>up to his memorial service. On Now, protesters marched on

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<v Speaker 1>a police station that had arrested some of their comrades

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<v Speaker 1>in and when they got to the station, the British

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<v Speaker 1>police opened fire into the crowd. When the slaughter was over,

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<v Speaker 1>ten Chinese men, women, and children lay dead on the

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<v Speaker 1>street to Shanghai. Another fifty were wounded. This moment, on

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<v Speaker 1>this crowded street in Shanghai changed everything. Budgin, the great

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese novelist and anarchist, wrote this description of a student's

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<v Speaker 1>reaction to the slaughter in Shanghai. Quote at the entrance

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<v Speaker 1>to Yunon Road, he saw the child who had been

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<v Speaker 1>killed a short while before, he thought about half an

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<v Speaker 1>hour ago. The crowd was marching peacefully towards the police

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<v Speaker 1>station to ask the police to set free students who

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<v Speaker 1>have been unjustly arrested. They thought the police were human

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<v Speaker 1>beings endowed with reason and human sympathy, that human blood

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<v Speaker 1>flood in their veins. They thought that uniforms and weapons

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<v Speaker 1>could not have destroyed their human nature. But reality proved

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<v Speaker 1>they were bloodthirsty beasts. On the most crowded street of

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<v Speaker 1>the city, they deliberately slaughtered on armed people. For this,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no precedent in Chinese history. The imperialist depression

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<v Speaker 1>that had endured for so many years ached like a

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<v Speaker 1>deep wound in his heart. He's gold Inwardly, he felt

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<v Speaker 1>the time for patience was over. He felt he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to spill his blood, to sacrifice his young life, that

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<v Speaker 1>he might show then not all among his people were

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<v Speaker 1>lambs that allowed themselves to be led without resistance to

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<v Speaker 1>the slaughter. He looked again at the corpse of the

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<v Speaker 1>murdered child. His eyes shone with fire. His whole body

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<v Speaker 1>began to burn, as though on fire. His heart beat violently. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a feeling that all of us

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<v Speaker 1>know now, just the sheer, breathtaking rage of seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>police murder a child, seeing a child's corpse lying dead

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<v Speaker 1>on the pavement, And that is that is now a

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<v Speaker 1>universal thing for sure, and I want to pause on

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<v Speaker 1>that feeling for a second. I want to pause on

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<v Speaker 1>the rage, on the grief, on the sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>raw and mounting horror of the realization at the copsmer

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<v Speaker 1>kids in the street. And I want you to hold

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<v Speaker 1>onto those emotions because there's been an enormous effort to

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<v Speaker 1>get Westerners to think that Chinese people are fundamentally different

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<v Speaker 1>than they are, That Chinese people are inherently authoritarian, that

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<v Speaker 1>we're all bound by a sort of traditional Confucian hierarchy

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<v Speaker 1>that we all follow reflectively, that that it's baked into

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<v Speaker 1>our culture, and even at the most extreme cases, are

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<v Speaker 1>genetics at a level that makes us fundamentally different than

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<v Speaker 1>the quote unquote freedom loving people of the West. And

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to think about that student staring at

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<v Speaker 1>a child's corpse in a bloody street in Shanghai, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to think about how he felt the

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<v Speaker 1>same despair, the same grief, the same rage that we do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want you to remember this single lesson without

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<v Speaker 1>which you cannot understands what is about to happen. They're

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<v Speaker 1>like us, and they fought like hell immediately after two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand workers joined the larger general strike in Shanghai's history.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day, the communist labor organizers founded Shanghai's General

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Union, or the g l U. Hundred and seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>unions join. Almost immediately, every part of Shanghai society moves.

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese business owners so outraged at the imperialist murders that

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<v Speaker 1>for a second the class abandoned them, contributed to the

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<v Speaker 1>strike funds, and took those streets themselves. So did Shanghai

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<v Speaker 1>is incredibly powerful organized crime gangs, the Green and Red gangs.

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<v Speaker 1>We're we're going to get into more of them. A

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<v Speaker 1>bit um. Chong Jung Chong and Chong Ju Ling sent

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<v Speaker 1>troops to suppress the uprising, but even their troops couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>hold the city against the power of the entirety of

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese Shanghai. A new force had taken the stage of

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese history, the Chinese working class, and had driven all

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<v Speaker 1>other classes into the streets and pitched them into open

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<v Speaker 1>battle with the police and the warlords. It had in

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<v Speaker 1>a single day, transformed Shanghai from the playground of the British, French,

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese imperialist into the capital of the Chinese working class. Now, yeah, Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know if you if you've read

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<v Speaker 1>anything about Shanghai, there's anything about any large city that

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<v Speaker 1>was written by a British dude before about They inevitably

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<v Speaker 1>call any sort of large city in the East that

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<v Speaker 1>the Paris of the Orient. Now Shanghai is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the cities that's famously called this and on mat the

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<v Speaker 1>meeting of those words changed completely. This uprising Shanghai, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did finally become the twentieth centuries Paris in that after

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<v Speaker 1>made the thirtieth it was to go into full scale

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<v Speaker 1>armed revolt five more times. The twentieth century. Shanghai's working class, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in every way, the equal, even the superiors of the

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<v Speaker 1>Parisian mobs would single handedly drive the warlords and nationalists

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<v Speaker 1>and the communist alike from the city. Yeah, yeah, there,

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<v Speaker 1>it is incredibly impressive. Yeah, they just had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>any of this had happened. Actually, yeah, it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>really this is one of like sort of the lost

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<v Speaker 1>stories of the twentieth century, which is which is the

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<v Speaker 1>story of Shanghai. Just Shanghai becoming indisputedly the world's great

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<v Speaker 1>revolutionary city in the way that sort of Paris was

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<v Speaker 1>in the ninetdreds. And this is because it starts because

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<v Speaker 1>of fucking pop kills a kid, yep. And and I

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<v Speaker 1>think and I think that's a as an entry point.

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<v Speaker 1>It is helpful because you know, there there there's a

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<v Speaker 1>tendency to sort of to to turn this whole period

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<v Speaker 1>into something that was like inevitable by class forces or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever that you know, this is some kind of weird

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<v Speaker 1>historical object or that like the communists from behind all

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<v Speaker 1>of this, and it's like no people, people, people go

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<v Speaker 1>on strike, people in the streets because they watched, like

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<v Speaker 1>they sold the physical bodies of children in the streets

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<v Speaker 1>that have been killed by the police. Yeah, and these

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<v Speaker 1>had all been people who had been dealing with um

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<v Speaker 1>Jung and his bullshit and the other warlords and the

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<v Speaker 1>violence and brutality that they carried out for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just I guess seeing a dead kid, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there is something like that that like you're just like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is too much, Like I've been putted too far,

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<v Speaker 1>We've all been pushed too far. It's time to fux

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<v Speaker 1>some ship up. Yeah. And the other thing about this

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<v Speaker 1>that I think is really important is that the they're

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<v Speaker 1>not killed by like Chinese police or Chinese soldiers. These

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<v Speaker 1>are originally it's a Japanese foreman and then it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>British police, and that part of it just like it

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<v Speaker 1>drives well, I mean, what we can you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>starts this revolt that just spreads like wildfire. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>within a couple of days there's a huge protest another

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<v Speaker 1>city near Shanghai, and the British open fire into the

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<v Speaker 1>crowds with machine guns. They kill another eight people Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>and this, yeah, this brings more people in the street

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<v Speaker 1>with with it wasin three days, the revolt spreads to

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<v Speaker 1>the north and there's thirty thousand students and workers on

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<v Speaker 1>strike and Beijing. In nearby Tungin, there's two hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>people show up to a protest and Tungeon this is

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<v Speaker 1>the center of the power of the warlord armies and

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<v Speaker 1>it's there in August that the movement sees his first

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<v Speaker 1>real defeat uncture lyings armies working with British intelligence. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is another thing. So so there's a

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<v Speaker 1>complicated relationship between the imperialist powers and the various warlords

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<v Speaker 1>they'll they'll sort of back factions. Dru Lings very often

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<v Speaker 1>accused of being a sort of like a stooge of

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<v Speaker 1>the Japanese imperialists, and it's not quite true, like he

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<v Speaker 1>is supported by them, but he just sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>disobeys them. But the one thing that happens immediately is

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<v Speaker 1>at any time one of these strikes happens, like all

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<v Speaker 1>of the warlords and all of the sort of imperial

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<v Speaker 1>powers just like a lock step. And yeah, in August,

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<v Speaker 1>du Ling's armies and a certain group of white Russian

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<v Speaker 1>mercenaries with whom we are now all familiar, retake the

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<v Speaker 1>city and slaughter dozens of workers. But even this doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop the revolt, and it continues to spread into the south.

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<v Speaker 1>Um in the nationalist heartland and Guangzhou in the very

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<v Speaker 1>far south, were workers massed on the border with British

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<v Speaker 1>occupied Hong Kong. The workers of Hong Kong rush to

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<v Speaker 1>join them. Now, now Hong Kong is somewhat unique among

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese cities in this period in that it's it's there.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been general strikes going on in Hong Kong,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean since the eighteen hundreds UM, and just three

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<v Speaker 1>years before this there's something called there's there's a massive

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<v Speaker 1>seamen strike, and I found this sort of yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I was just I was just gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>past it. What I wrote that I knew was gonna happen. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I found this this great description of it lipcom Thow,

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<v Speaker 1>which which I think is also useful to to understand

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<v Speaker 1>the effects of the later strikes. And so it goes

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<v Speaker 1>disaster for the bosses. Not only rail workers and Stevedor's,

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<v Speaker 1>but baker's, cooks, clerks, coolies and servants joined the strike.

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<v Speaker 1>The ruling class now had to cook its own food

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<v Speaker 1>and que to buy it. No clothes were washed, no

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<v Speaker 1>shirts were ironed. Ministers had to wander government buildings delivering

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<v Speaker 1>their own messages, but there was no one to carry

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<v Speaker 1>out their orders. The army was called out and commandeered

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<v Speaker 1>food and vehicles. Workers were pressed into forced labor. Was

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<v Speaker 1>their workforce disappearing. The boss has banned anyone from leaving

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<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong, which meant no one could visit the graves

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<v Speaker 1>of their ancestors in China, a fearful thing. A freedom

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<v Speaker 1>march against the band led to confrontation right and massacre

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<v Speaker 1>with a colony descending into dare we say it, anarchy,

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<v Speaker 1>government crumbling, and business losses mounting. Merchants lost five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars between the strike, a massive sum. The boss

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<v Speaker 1>is capitulated. Now that strike had had I think about

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred thousand people in it, and it pales in

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<v Speaker 1>comparison to what's going to happen now. Um on, this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is the beginning of what's called the Canton

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<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong strike. On June, British police officers open fire

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<v Speaker 1>into a crowd of a hundred and thirty thousands. They

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<v Speaker 1>killed fifty two people, Yeah, including four children younger than sixteen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is this is surprise bastard imperialism. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, it always finds its way in yep. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And that is a very British thing, just firing into

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<v Speaker 1>a crowd of thousands of people with yep. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>did a lot of that. Um yeah, okay, totally scans yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And the workers in Hong Kong respond with the city's

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<v Speaker 1>longest general strike. Two fifty thou workers just they just

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<v Speaker 1>leave the city for guang Sho, which you know brings

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<v Speaker 1>all of Hong Kong ko a stand still. Because almost

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<v Speaker 1>their entire labor force it's just gone, like they did

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<v Speaker 1>just leave. Um, there's further there's there's a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, And the everything to do is there's this

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<v Speaker 1>board kott of British goods that reduces British revenue in

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<v Speaker 1>the city by forty and this last for sixteen months,

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<v Speaker 1>and the only reason Hong Kong survives is that, like

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<v Speaker 1>basically the only thing the UK government is doing in

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<v Speaker 1>this period is just shipping these massive bailout packages to

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<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong. Now, I know I mentioned earlier that there

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<v Speaker 1>was massive protests in Tungjin, and those are the first,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first movement to go down after sort of

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<v Speaker 1>warlord truth movement to suppress it. But what's interesting about

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<v Speaker 1>what happens in the rest of the country is that

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, these strikes aren't put down by

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<v Speaker 1>the warlords at all. And so to understand why, we

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<v Speaker 1>to look at sort of the class composition of these movements. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of of the May thirtie movement, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what this whole wave of unrest comes to be

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<v Speaker 1>known after the thirty massacre, you have a really solid

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<v Speaker 1>alliance of you know, everyone in Chinese society, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone is piste off about the British soldiers just

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<v Speaker 1>like slaughtering children in the street, and it produces this

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<v Speaker 1>really unwieldly alliance of workers, business owners, and organized crime

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<v Speaker 1>all sort of like fighting imperialism together. But like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a coalition that has any shared interest other

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<v Speaker 1>than sort of just hatred of the British and you know, okay,

0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.000
<v Speaker 1>hatred of hatred of the perfidious albion is a powerful force,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not enough to hold the political coalition together.

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<v Speaker 1>And especially because you know this this is the period

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<v Speaker 1>where like the general strike really enters into sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like the protest vocabulary of China's working class, and this

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<v Speaker 1>to just absolutely freak out the bosses. And then there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of there's a lot of things that are

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<v Speaker 1>very scary if if you're a boss in like Shanghai.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the other ones is the workers in Shanghai

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<v Speaker 1>start organizing what's called the dog Beating Brigade, which is

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<v Speaker 1>this is this row of workers with axes who run

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<v Speaker 1>around beating up scabs and people who don't what labor

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<v Speaker 1>movements it rules. Yes, that's that's pretty rad. Dude with axes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, no, nope, you better suppote the labor movement.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to keep a strike going, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>need a couple hundred dudes with axes. Yeah. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lesson people should be taking for the general

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<v Speaker 1>strike we should have and I don't know tomorrow or whatever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, frankly, like the fact that we no

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<v Speaker 1>longer have people have have a dog beating brigades with

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<v Speaker 1>with axes is like a real reason for the decline

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<v Speaker 1>of the American of the sort of organized American working class. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>bad pitch here, but we're gonna have to change the

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<v Speaker 1>name because Americans are not going to get on board

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<v Speaker 1>anything called the dog beating brigade. And that's true. We

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<v Speaker 1>called the bat absolutely, Yeah, I think we I think

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<v Speaker 1>you can get people back on the door. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is dogs is angry about the dog beating brigade.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's fair. It's a different culture. Okay, don't worry.

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<v Speaker 1>They only beat people, not dogs. Yeah, they're not beating people.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not like or they're not beating dogs. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>like Hitler. They're beating people, which is also like hitler um,

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<v Speaker 1>but in a good way, all right, I don't, I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've lost the thread. Now. Now, a big reason

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<v Speaker 1>for the sort of level of militants and for the

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<v Speaker 1>level of organization that the workers of Shanghai have is

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<v Speaker 1>because both the Communists and the Nationalist Party have allied

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<v Speaker 1>with Shanghai's powerful Green Gang. Now, the Green Gang is

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<v Speaker 1>the single best organized political force in Shanghai by a

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<v Speaker 1>very significant margin. Um. Most of what they're sort of

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<v Speaker 1>fame is four is the fact that they control Shangha

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<v Speaker 1>has opium trade. And you know, that makes them a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money. But in terms of organizational strength, the

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<v Speaker 1>real power lies in their control over the workplace. The

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<v Speaker 1>Greek Gang controls almost every shop floor in Shanghai, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know the ones that don't control tend to be

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<v Speaker 1>controlled by other gangs. And you know when when when

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<v Speaker 1>I say they control the shop floor, what I mean

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<v Speaker 1>is that they're almost completely in control of the hiring

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<v Speaker 1>and firing process to the point where did you even

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<v Speaker 1>come to Shanghai in the first place? Right, And this

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<v Speaker 1>is important because Shanghai is the city that's like sev

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<v Speaker 1>immigrants from other parts of China. So it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>based almost entirely on migrant workers. And to even get

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<v Speaker 1>into the city, you have to have someone who's in

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<v Speaker 1>the gang to like vouch for you. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>once once, once you have someone that like a foeman

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<v Speaker 1>to vouch for you, you have you have you have

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<v Speaker 1>a friend vouch for you with the foreman, and they

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<v Speaker 1>can hire you. But but this, this whole process means

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<v Speaker 1>that almost the entire working class in Shanghai is like

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<v Speaker 1>affiliated with one of these gangs, particularly the Green Gang.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's sort of interesting. You can see attempts to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like defame some of these workers that that

0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.040
<v Speaker 1>people will go be like, oh, they're they're affiliated with

0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the gangs. And it's like literally every worker in Shanghai

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<v Speaker 1>is affiliated something stept with a gang because that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only way you can get a job, and this gives

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<v Speaker 1>them an enormous amount of political power on top of show.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the wealth reabled extract from Chinese workers in the

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<v Speaker 1>opium trade, and they're significant enough that a big part

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<v Speaker 1>of communist organizing and Shanghai becomes like infiltrating these gangs

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<v Speaker 1>because the communists, you know, very quickly figure out that

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<v Speaker 1>if you can't part of it. If you're not like

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<v Speaker 1>part of the gangs, you can't get a job and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do any labor organizing. So so they turned

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<v Speaker 1>into the strategy of like organizing the gang foreman, because

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<v Speaker 1>the gang foreman can just like boot everyone out of

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<v Speaker 1>a shop and like start a strike. And this this

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of weirdly and surprisingly actually works and the

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<v Speaker 1>communists are able to win over like a good number

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<v Speaker 1>of four men. And this is this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of the basis of organized labor in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>But but this also means that even within the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of communist unions, the gangs have like a decent level

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<v Speaker 1>of influence because you know, the reliant on gang members

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of bring people in. Now, at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the conflict, this works in organized labor's favor because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, both both the gangs and the and the

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<v Speaker 1>communists and like the labor organizers are all pulling on

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<v Speaker 1>the same side, and that means they could just like

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<v Speaker 1>pull everyone out of work. But as as the stricks

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<v Speaker 1>go on, the largely communist control general labor union grows

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<v Speaker 1>more and more powerful, and the Green Gang looks at

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<v Speaker 1>this it starts to get worried about like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>organized labor creating an independent base of power, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a real threat to the control of the workplace, and

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<v Speaker 1>they start looking for allies that put the strikes down. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese business owners had initially like backed the protests, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because they were piste off that the British

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<v Speaker 1>were shooting people. But they very quickly realized that letting

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<v Speaker 1>letting workers have unions is extremely bad for them, even

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<v Speaker 1>if those unions were temporarily targeting foreign owners. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>so one one of their major complaints is that there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a strike. You know, one of the strikes is

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<v Speaker 1>going on is at this like Japanese own power plants,

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<v Speaker 1>but because the power plants, they like they can't be

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<v Speaker 1>run by scab workers. This cuts off businesses. This cuts

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<v Speaker 1>off like power to Chinese businesses too. The business owners

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<v Speaker 1>get piste off and they get together with the Green Gang.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to like start ending the strikes. Um The

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<v Speaker 1>gang like storms the offices of the g l U

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<v Speaker 1>with like knives and iron bars and just like beats

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<v Speaker 1>the crap out of a whole bunch of the GILU organizers.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're able to just like destroy the headquarters, and

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<v Speaker 1>they also start to sort of like exert their influence

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<v Speaker 1>over the workforce to like bring people back to work.

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<v Speaker 1>And this eventually is able to do what the British

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<v Speaker 1>government in the warlords couldn't, which is bring the strike

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<v Speaker 1>to an end by forcing the GLU to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like settle with the Japanese government over conversation for like

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<v Speaker 1>the original death of the labor organizer and a very

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<v Speaker 1>similar process, although in Hong Kong it's more Chinese business

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<v Speaker 1>owners acting the British then it is organized crime, like

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<v Speaker 1>just beating the crap out of people. But there's a

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<v Speaker 1>very similar thing plays out in Hong Kong. And after

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen months to strike ends, and it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>disaster because after this the Brits just like later in

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<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong to a fortress, almost all British social policy

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<v Speaker 1>for the next really hundred years specifically designed to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that this this kind of strike never happens again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like um I could name some other governments

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<v Speaker 1>that took a little bit of a leaf out of

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<v Speaker 1>their book in that regard, yep. And there's actually there's

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<v Speaker 1>a fun a lot of fun I say fun but

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<v Speaker 1>there there's an interesting thing about this where Shanghai, Hong

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<v Speaker 1>Kong is basically the place where like most riot tactics

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<v Speaker 1>are produced, are like like police anti riot techniques are produced.

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<v Speaker 1>So there there's another bunch of riots in n seven

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<v Speaker 1>and what the British police does against those riots are

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<v Speaker 1>like that. That's where that's like the template for all

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<v Speaker 1>riot police comes from is from the British police in

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<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong sixty seven. And you see this with like

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<v Speaker 1>waves of this with the earlier strikes too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're fucking good at it. I can It's also I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna guess where a lot of protester tactics for dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with I mean, I can say that just in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of like last year in Portland, people were using tactics

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<v Speaker 1>they'd seen in Hong Kong. Uh do first, Um, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>dude that I I had no idea it went back

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<v Speaker 1>that fucking far. But yeah, and there's interesting stuff here too,

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<v Speaker 1>because so basically, like the way the way this conflict

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<v Speaker 1>always works at like both sides are constantly trading like

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<v Speaker 1>tactics with they're sort of like equivalent numbers. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have like the thin blue line international but then you

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<v Speaker 1>also have you know, you have like the actual international

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<v Speaker 1>in in this period, so you have sort of which

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<v Speaker 1>is the kind of left socialist international. Yeah. Well by

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<v Speaker 1>by this by this point you're sort of in like

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<v Speaker 1>the the USSR Third International. But even before that, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of people who were like worker is

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<v Speaker 1>in uh like for example, like the like one of

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<v Speaker 1>one of the labor yins in Egypt, for example, starts

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<v Speaker 1>because a bunch of like like Italian anarchists like show

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<v Speaker 1>up and do a bunch of organizing. And this happens

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<v Speaker 1>in Brazil to where you know, the general strike like

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of spreads as workers move around the world. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So so you have these dynamics and they sort of

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<v Speaker 1>clash here and in Hong Kong, like the ruling classes

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<v Speaker 1>trade up wins. But in Shanghai, even though the strike

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<v Speaker 1>collapses and like another Wollard takes the city and executes

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of the labor leaders, but it doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>because maybe the thirty had already sort of had changed

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<v Speaker 1>everything about Chinese politics. And this this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest factors behind the rise of the next phase

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<v Speaker 1>of Chinese history, which is the rise of the nationalists.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the KMT of the Nationalist Party is it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the oldest political factions left in China at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, by time you hit about ninety, they

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<v Speaker 1>they're a complete mess that they've had a series of disasters, revolts,

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<v Speaker 1>like all their leaders keep fleeing the Japan and you

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<v Speaker 1>know that they're sort of clinging on too, like a

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<v Speaker 1>portion of Gloctial province, like the Far South, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, organizationally, it's a disaster. I mean they have

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<v Speaker 1>they don't they don't have meetings, like, they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a party program, they don't have a constitution that they like,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't even have like a newspaper, the party publication.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Soviets look at this and are like this

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<v Speaker 1>is a disaster. And so they send Michael Borden, who's

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<v Speaker 1>like he's an old Bolshevik organizer, to to meet and

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<v Speaker 1>advise the KMTS leader of Sony at Sin and this

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<v Speaker 1>board in board and basically tell sny Aten like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to reorganize this party on like Latin his lines,

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<v Speaker 1>and Snya send is like okay, so if I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get Soviet aids, there's literally no way we can ever

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<v Speaker 1>win this war. So he lets board In carry out

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<v Speaker 1>as reforms within like within a series of matter of months.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just completely transformed. They turned to this this really

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly effective political organization that they suddenly they have branches

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<v Speaker 1>all over the country. They have they're all holding meetings,

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<v Speaker 1>they're spreading propaganda, and they're they're also sort of aided

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<v Speaker 1>in this by the USSR. Wow. Yeah, the USR is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do a lot of things to help that. The

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<v Speaker 1>CAMT in this period one of the one of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest ones that they dragged the Chinese Communist Party like

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<v Speaker 1>literally kicking and screaming into an alliance with the KMT.

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<v Speaker 1>The companies are just like hated the Nationalists for various

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<v Speaker 1>doctronic reasons, and the uss are just like, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>alley with them. And this is called the First United Front,

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<v Speaker 1>and notably is the first United Front because there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be more United fronts because yeah, yeah, yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>we'll we'll we'll, we'll see, we'll see how this alliance

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<v Speaker 1>turns out in a bit. But you know, like every

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<v Speaker 1>member of the Communist Party joins the Nationalist Party and

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>this gives them like a that this makes the nationalist

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:57.879
<v Speaker 1>like significantly more effective as a political organization. Um, you

0:24:57.880 --> 0:24:59.639
<v Speaker 1>know in the KMT on top of the communists that

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:03.479
<v Speaker 1>they've always had a few other basis of support, like

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 1>they're they have a bunch of backers in like the

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.679
<v Speaker 1>Chinese diasporain, like the U S and Indonesia, they have

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like they have a lot of banking

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 1>support from people in Hong Kong and Guangzho. And with

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 1>the reforms of the party nine three and they made

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>the thirtieth movement, the CAMT gets three new extremely powerful

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>basis support. They get the full military backing of the Soviets,

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:31.680
<v Speaker 1>who are going to pump more money into the CAMT

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 1>than like any other international power is going to spend

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>on this entire war. They get this one one of

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:39.159
<v Speaker 1>the one of the things that Soviets do is they

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>they start helping to train this new officer corps for

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:43.680
<v Speaker 1>for for the for this the thing called the National

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Revolutionary Army that the canties sort of building up to

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:49.439
<v Speaker 1>go fight the warlords. And the third thing they build up,

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 1>especially after the giant political shifts of of is they

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 1>start gaining this huge base in the Chinese masses and

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 1>when I say the Chinese masses, I mean they have

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 1>the entire ideological spectrum in this organization. I mean it's

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 1>it's it's the kind of coalition that you look at

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:08.879
<v Speaker 1>it and it's like something has gone wrong in history.

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:14.400
<v Speaker 1>There are too many people are agreed about the same things. Yeah,

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Like there's like proto fascists, there's like this right right

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 1>wing like hardcore nationalists. There's these very like traditional sort

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>of conservative Confucians, Like there's there's these conservative Chinese business owners.

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:28.159
<v Speaker 1>There's a bunch of landlords, you have to have the

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of old revolutionary like republicans. And on the left

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you have a bunch of socialist communists and anarchists and

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 1>they're all in this able work. And this is you know,

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 1>you look at the coalition, it's like there's no way

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>that like the fascist, the landlords and the communists are

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 1>like all gonna be on the same side of this.

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>It makes me think a lot about some of what

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 1>you saw in Fume after World War One, where you've

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>got these these anarchists and these communists and kind of

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>every just like all of these different people and and

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and there's a similar are like Fume, which we talked

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:04.119
<v Speaker 1>about in our Gabrielle Benunzio two partner, which was like

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:07.680
<v Speaker 1>the city in Italy that was taken by this um

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>madman uh artists kind of proto fascist guy, but like

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:15.920
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people on the left and the right

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of started engaged in this utopian project there for

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>about of year, and it was a reaction to the

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 1>chaos and the violence of World War One and the

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 1>fact that like all of these powers in the region,

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>these great militant powers, had completely fucked society up. And

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I think you're seeing the same thing in China. These

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 1>like the old government has gone, these warlords are not

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>helping anybody but themselves. Um, they're just like fucking and

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 1>drinking and murdering tens of thousands of people. And so

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.439
<v Speaker 1>you get this pretty broad coalition of people who are

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>all able to be like, well, funk, how things are going? Yeah.

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>And I think the other part of this is that

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the KMT built like cells like nationalists like sell themselves

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>like as as like the word of the Revolutionary Party,

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's like anyone who wants to revel lution like

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>left or right, like doesn't doesn't matter, just join up

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>and you'll you'll you'll get the revolution that like over

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 1>that overthrows the wildlords and like restores the power of

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the nation, and that after that we can all fight

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:14.440
<v Speaker 1>over like you know, restaurant political differences. And they sure

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>did you know who doesn't overthrow Chinese civil society and

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 1>start a period of mass blood letting that will eventually

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>lead to the deaths of millions. The products and services

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that support the show, they do not, none of them.

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>None of them have yet done that. Um, maybe one day,

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe one day. I have a I have a good

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>feeling about Blue Apron. I think they might go all

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the way. But we'll see. Ah, and we're back, all right,

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>let's let's continue. So the nationalists have one more powerful

0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 1>basis support. And this base is one of the few

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>bases that's going to that goes from like their origins

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 1>in the early d late eighteen hundreds to like after

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 1>they're the government of Taiwan. And this base is organized crime. Now,

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of historians don't really want to touch on this,

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>and there's a good reason for that because up until

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 1>the nineties, it was genuinely extremely dangerous to write about

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 1>the k M T S. Tigest organized crime like it

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>like it's bad enough that So there's a Taiwanese journalist

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>named Henry Leo who who writes an unauthorized biography of

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>like Chenkai Check's brother who's like the president of Taiwan.

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>He's writing unauthorized biography and he gets assassinated by the

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>KMT in California and like next two yeah, yeah, and

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 1>they like they're they had they have a whole international network,

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>they have all this sort of opium and heroin distribution.

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, it's sadly we don't have enough time to

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>do this whole story because it's it's a whole thing.

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>But needless to say, one of the big ways that

0:29:56.800 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>the KMT, especially the camp's right wing funds itself, is

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>that they're there. They're just like up to their asses

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 1>and the opium and the heroin trade and they have,

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, they have really deep ties to organized crime

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>in ways they're gonna be very important in a second. Now,

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 1>the KMT left also has tighest organized crime, like we

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>talked about like the communists and like the sort of

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>left nationalists are affiliated with like the Green Gang and

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Chinese organized crime because they have to for labor organizing

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>the KMT right is just there there. They just are

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>the opium trade. Um. Yeah. So if if you remember

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 1>back last episode, Joeng has a Nationalist general named Chan assassinated. Yeah,

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>that guy. That guy was the head of the Green

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Gang at the time, and a large part of why

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>he thought he could just like go back to Shanghai

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 1>and started revolution was that he was you know, he

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>was in control of the Green Gang, which means that

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 1>he had control of the Green games opium like now

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>well opium mapras, but he had he had control of

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the Green Gangs like labor apparatus. And so he was like, well, okay,

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I can start a strike and then they'll be an

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>on revolution. I could take the city. And you know

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work because John like kills him. But you know,

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>this is the like the level of ties between the

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>cant right and organized crime. Like Shankai Check pledges his

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>loyalty to like a later Green Gang leader in Shanghai,

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>a Schenkai Check for those of you don't know, Check

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Check is bye. By the end of this story, Chanka

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Check is going to be the guy, the single person

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>in control of the entire Nationalist Party, and he has

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>pledged loyalty to a member of the Green Gang and

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>makes another Green Gang guy the head of shank like

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Shanghai's director of opium suppression, which is extremely fun. I

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 1>would disagree with that. I think opium should be allowed

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>to thrive um in the open marketplace, and most importantly,

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>uh in in my refrigerator. But please continue. Well, you know,

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean Italy, so does Shankai check which is what?

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Which is? Which is why? Senka is what I'm learning.

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>We're we're both on on the same page about the

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>only thing that matters. Opium and heroin too. The heroin's

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>a bit later. Yeah, I mean it's it's literally the

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 1>opiate of the masses. Yeah, yeah, well no, because most

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>people can't afford it. It's the opium of me, the

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>opiate of me. In shang Kai scheck, it's our opiate

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.239
<v Speaker 1>and and yeah, all right, and it makes a lot

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 1>of money. Yeah, I mean, if you're not a for

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>some people, I I'm a purist. But you know, just

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>in it for the love of the game, in it

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 1>for the love of the opium. You know, why would you?

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Why would you? You don't want to com modify something

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>you love. You know, It's like if you make your

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>hobby your job and it ruins it, um, you don't

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 1>want to you don't want to lose out on the

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>love of the game. The game being opium makes sense. Now, Yeah,

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 1>the Green Gang in their hand, like they're they're they're

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 1>they're Green Gang in it for the love of the money,

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>and you know that that so they funnel all of

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>this into into like they funnel a bunch of their

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>money into into the CAMT and you know, the KMT.

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>With their best bases now solidifying their armies. Fueled by

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the power of Russia, heroin money and the Chinese masses,

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>they set out the conquer all of China. Okay, that's

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>a little bit pretty ambitious, but go off. Yeah yeah, now, okay,

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 1>but before we fully get into what's become known as

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the Northern Expedition, there's one more person who we have

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to talk about who I believe am Sure is showing

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>up for the first time ambassadors pot history as a character,

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>and that is mause A Doung. Oh. Yeah, we talk

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>a little bit during the the Lisanko episodes because of

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the famine and yeah, doing the great

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:29.479
<v Speaker 1>leap forward. But yeah, we really have and he's one.

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>He's one of the guys who's I. I always get

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>to um um uh, daunted by the sheer amount of

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>ship to cover when you have to talk about that

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 1>guy's life. Yeah, we yeah, obviously, like we cannot really

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>get into Mao here. But he does one thing that's

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>extremely important in this story, which is that he he's

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>organizing a peasant movement in Kudan Province, and he's really

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>good at this. The newly formed like Judan Provincial Peasant

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Association quickly grows to five million members and they start

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>to seize land from wealthy landholders, and you know, they

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>start to arm themselves in order to do this, and

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, credit where credit is due now grew on

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>land reform. He's okay. Bad on sparrows, bad and workers democracy,

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 1>bad on famines, but you know, land reform, he's pretty good.

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>And the peasants, like the peasants, agree with this. But unfortunately,

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the local elites are extremely unhappy that the peasants are

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>taking other land, and so they start to form their

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 1>own malicious is not The peasants were taking more land,

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 1>and pretty soon there's just another civil war going on.

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 1>In non problems, the peasants and the large landowners. Yeah,

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>because you know that we need to sords. Is you

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 1>get one that you get a lot yep, and then

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>they keep happening. It's great now, no sort of Interestingly,

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the CCP is actually extremely piste off that the peasants

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>are taking all this land because you know, as I

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>said earlier, right, part of the canties bases landlords, and

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>these people not happy about the prospect of land reforhim.

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know this e CP is still trying to

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 1>hold the like the CCP Camp United friend together And

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, Robert, you might be thinking to yourself, what

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of brain genius does look at a coalition that

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:14.959
<v Speaker 1>includes a bunch of landlords and mao and go, yeah,

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>this is a basis for a stable working relationship. And

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, he's not famed for his love of landlords.

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. And and and the answer to that is

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>a bastard's pot of lum Joseph Stalin and also Trotsky. Yeah,

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 1>there's my boys, there's my good boys. Looks j stall looks,

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>looks at mause Dung, reads up on this guy's background

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>and says, you know, who can we get along with landlords?

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 1>The funny thing about this, right, So, so okay, we'll

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>get really fully into what like the brain trust in

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Moscow thinks about this later, but like, okay, so the

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 1>fun part about what what's about to happen in China

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 1>here is that so it's a complete fiasco all the

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:04.760
<v Speaker 1>communist Stalin looks at this and he sounds like, yeah,

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.359
<v Speaker 1>it gets worse, it gets worse. And this this runs

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 1>into my theory of every every critical moment in world history,

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you can find a decision that Stalin made that made

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>it worse, and this one. It's not just this. Stalin

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>also is like, so he the lesson that he takes

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 1>from from this conflict, he's he takes much a really

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 1>weird lesson from and he tried and he tries to

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 1>force the Communist party in Palestine to like take a

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:33.439
<v Speaker 1>completely weird line based off of what happened in China,

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and that's like one of the reasons that like it

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.760
<v Speaker 1>completely fails and is like one of the reasons everything

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>goes as ship in Palestine. So yeah, good good job Stalin.

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna sunk everything up in China and then he's

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna do it again in Palestine. And it's it's great,

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a good time. He's he's he's he really he.

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was good at staying in power he had.

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 1>He was less good at everything that was not directly

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 1>related to staying and it up. But man was he

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 1>good at staying And you can't fault him on that,

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.800
<v Speaker 1>all right? So J Stall J Stall focks around and

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>gets a whole lot of Communist skilled. Yeah, well we'll we'll, we'll,

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 1>we'll get we'll get to all of them dying in

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>a bit. But you know the problem at the moment

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 1>is that once the peasants gonna taste for lander form,

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 1>they just start doing it themselves. And the CCP like

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:27.839
<v Speaker 1>tells him to stop the passenger like no, like we're

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna take this land now. And you know, as as

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>as a skill as this escalatortion to like a full

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>scales sip war, this this starts to it's crush to

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 1>create this huge rift. There's a few other things that

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 1>are happening to in this period that's started that like

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:42.240
<v Speaker 1>there there starts to be sort of these huge battles

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>between the CCP and like the cants left and the

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 1>right wing of the CAMT and this what everything Mao

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 1>is doing is sort of like escalating this now. The

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:54.879
<v Speaker 1>other reason I bring up Mao is that I think

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:57.720
<v Speaker 1>there's more similarities between Mao and Jong than you'd expect.

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're they're they're both men who were born

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 1>sort of the outskirts of Chinese society, who are both you,

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and they're most sort of nobodies until they swept up

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 1>in the revelu and the tumult of early century revolutionary politics,

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:11.799
<v Speaker 1>and basically, by sheer chance, they go on to become

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 1>extremely important historical figures. Now most importantly for our purposes,

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Mao and Jong are probably the two most famous poets

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 1>in China in this period. And I don't think a

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of people know this about Mao, but by like

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 1>an incredible quirk of history, Mao is one of the

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 1>great Chinese classical poets. Like if he studied Chinese poetry

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>in university, like you read Mao's that that's that's also

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:39.959
<v Speaker 1>true of Stalin, like he wasn't he didn't write nearly

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>as many poems, but he was a very well regarded

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Georgian poet. And they're both leaders of the two big

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>communist parties like that, that's that's I mean, I don't know.

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe there's something about controlling of an all powerful

0:38:56.840 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 1>party apparatus that also makes you good at meter. Actually,

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:03.399
<v Speaker 1>that does kind of make sense. Okay, I can see

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I can see it. We're so we we we've developed

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the like let them go to art schools theory of fascists.

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Now we're developing the never let the poem to somebody

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 1>writing a poem, just start hitting them. You know. I

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:21.840
<v Speaker 1>do think Mao is like he's I think it's a

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 1>really interesting example of this. There's like, that's a famous

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:26.760
<v Speaker 1>like Stephen J. Gould quote that goes like, I'm somehow

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 1>less interested in the weight in convolutions of Einstein's brain

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 1>than near certainty that people of equal talents have lived

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:35.800
<v Speaker 1>and died in cotton fields with sweatshops, and like ma

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Mao is one of those people who very easily could

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>have died just like completely unknown peasants, and instead, you know,

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 1>he becomes a world redound poet. It's and some other stuff. Yeah, yeah,

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.919
<v Speaker 1>just a shame that he also wound up being Mao. Yeah,

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>he has, he has, He does a couple of things

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>in his life. Yeah. Now, now, and this is important

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 1>for our purposes. Jong is also a famous Chinese poet,

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 1>and I've okay, Robert, I want you to read this poem.

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 1>War poet is Yeah, I want you to read this

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:09.959
<v Speaker 1>poem that I've just put in the chat that's called

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 1>poem about bastards. Oh oh fuck yeah, Okay, is this

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 1>the whole poem? This is the whole poem. You tell

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:20.360
<v Speaker 1>me to do this, he tells me to do that.

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>You're all bastards, Go fuck your mother. That's a good poem.

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I assume that. I assume it rhymes more in the

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>original language. Here's the thing, right, so you would think

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:34.800
<v Speaker 1>that it sounds better in Chinese, And no it doesn't,

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>because that's I'm gonna say it. Then that's not really

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a poem. That's that's that's a guy telling someone to

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>go fuck his mother. Yeah, that's like a running theme

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 1>for him. He's really into that. He's really into the

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 1>motherfucking stuff. Okay, I mean it's not bad, you know,

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I I get it's the kind of thing. If he were, like,

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 1>for example, an actual like revolutionary fighting for liberty as

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:07.279
<v Speaker 1>opposed to a vicious warlord um rapes women, this would

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 1>have a little bit more bite because he's the one

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 1>telling people to do things, like nobody's told this guy

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 1>what to do in quite a while at this point

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 1>in the story. No, no, he he writes a lot

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 1>of poems. I'm going to do one more because it's

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 1>great and this one, this one has a story behind it.

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 1>So we've talked about this a bit. There's there's this

0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:33.760
<v Speaker 1>big drought in Shandong, and so John goes to basically

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>he goes to like a local local temple of the

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Dragon Emperor, and he prays for rain, and he writes

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 1>this just spectacular poem about the ordeal. The dragon Emperor

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>is also named Jong. Why does he make life hard

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 1>from me? If it doesn't rain in three days, I'll demolish.

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I'll demolish your temple, and then I'll have cannons bombard

0:41:55.320 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 1>your mom. Can't can't cannon, I will shoot your mom.

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Is the gist I'm taking out of you know, too

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.319
<v Speaker 1>solid flex all right, well, you know, and here's here's

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:13.680
<v Speaker 1>here's the phone part about this. So so he writes

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 1>this poem while he's waiting for three days for it

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 1>to rain. It doesn't rain. So he goes back to

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 1>the temple and he like he like, there's like a

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 1>massive people praying to this idol of the of the

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Dragon network. He's like walks up to the idol, slaps

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:29.359
<v Speaker 1>it and yells, fuck your sister, how dare you make

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Shan Young's people suffer by not giving us rain? And

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.719
<v Speaker 1>then he brings a bunch of cannons up to the

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>temple and just start shooting them at the sky to

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>bombard the heavens. In what I can only read is

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 1>one of the earliest attempts to attack and to thrown God. Now,

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the next day it rains, and I will let you

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:54.399
<v Speaker 1>all make of that what you will. I mean, we're

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:56.759
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of a drought in Oregon here, so

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I may I may steal that one I may steal.

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Look the things from this guy. I'm gonna be entirely honest.

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to steal a number of things from this guy. Hey,

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>shoot cannons at this guy will make it rain. I

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I already do like shooting at this guy. I mean

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 1>there are some like, there are some like I mean

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 1>that that's something China is today, right, Like there's some

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>attempts to kind of like see now it's not just

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>shooting guns it but like to seed clouds in order

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 1>to kind of bring rain on, like that's the thing

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 1>that gets done. Yeah, and there's a theory I don't

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:28.359
<v Speaker 1>buy it. Well, again, I'm not a chemist, but there's

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 1>actually a theory that like, because of like the residue

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 1>on the gunpowder something of the cannons that like this

0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 1>like replicated the effect of the cloud seating stuff. And yeah,

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:42.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean it says that I'm just looking at this

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>up now, it says they they use silver iodide rockets,

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and it looks like, um, it looks like the actual

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:51.880
<v Speaker 1>science on this is kind of um not not settled.

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't I certainly don't know enough to say whether

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 1>or not it is. But I could see how silver

0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 1>iodide could also be a byproduct of firing cannons in

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 1>this guy. Yeah, I mean things happen. I don't know

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 1>sure what I'm hearing is that to deal with this drought, Um,

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Oregon needs me to shart start shooting at the sky.

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Isn't it legal to just like wheel cannons around? Like

0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 1>there's no law against cannons at all that I'm aware of.

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Most states stay count as a curio in relic, which

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:29.400
<v Speaker 1>means they're unregulated. Oh, this is this is okay, as

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 1>long as the ball they fire does not itself explode.

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm fairly certain you can do anything you want with

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>a cannon. Now I'm having I'm having a series of

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 1>visions that involve you in a bunkers. Yeah, I'm starting

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to go fund me right now, and they'll fund me

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 1>several cannons so that Oregon will have a rainy season again. There, Robert,

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you know who else will fund you? Wow, I was

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:04.879
<v Speaker 1>a good one. I mean, they absolutely do, Sophie. Yeah,

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the products and services that support this podcast, and they do.

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:11.839
<v Speaker 1>They have bought me a number of things that are

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 1>similar in nature to cannons. Anyway, here's ads, motherfucker's we're back. Uh,

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:32.240
<v Speaker 1>we're all just having a real zip bang wow hoosily

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 1>doosily do of a time. So he shoots some clouds,

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:40.719
<v Speaker 1>which I think we've decided was a good decision. What's next? Yeah,

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 1>So so okay, unfortunately or unfortunately, depending on whose side

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you're on. Uh, this is shooting shooting guns at clouds

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:50.319
<v Speaker 1>is not the only thing in nationalist I've been doing

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 1>in this period, and that's not the only thing the

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:55.120
<v Speaker 1>world lords have been doing in this period either. So

0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:59.759
<v Speaker 1>the warlords like look south and are like, Okay, this

0:45:59.880 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 1>is a large army with a lot of Soviet support.

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 1>We need we need to sort of you know, we

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:06.759
<v Speaker 1>need to start getting ready to fight them. So in

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Jung Chilling and his allies form something called the National

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Pacification Army, Which is the best explanation of that I

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 1>can give is it's like the United Frind for warlords.

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like like a all the warlord solidarity for guys

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:23.360
<v Speaker 1>with armies. Yeah. Yeah, But you know, it's kind of

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:25.800
<v Speaker 1>remarkable because all of these people hate each other and

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:28.719
<v Speaker 1>I've spent the last what is this is twenty six

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 1>by now, so ten years just like murdering each other

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:34.319
<v Speaker 1>over nothing. But you know, when when, yeah, when when

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:36.239
<v Speaker 1>when they're asses on the line, they come together and

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah. And so you get Junk Chilling, Jung Jung

0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Chong and the Jade Marshall who pay Fo who is

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 1>back after somehow managing to pull together enough of his

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:51.480
<v Speaker 1>territory and his troops to like be a kind of

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 1>significant power again, but is now fighting on the side

0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:56.920
<v Speaker 1>of his former rival and the man who sent him

0:46:56.920 --> 0:47:03.839
<v Speaker 1>into exile because warlord period. And you know, they at

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 1>first looked like a pretty forbidable army, but they're immediately

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 1>weakened when we'll pay for who who really like this

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.799
<v Speaker 1>man should honestly be called the marshal of getting owned

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:17.319
<v Speaker 1>by his own subordinates because so she goes to fight

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 1>the nationalists and then his army immediately collapses because he's

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 1>betrayed by one of his generals again for the second

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 1>time in two years. Yeah, class solidarity only goes so

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>far when your classes guys with armies, uh and no conscience. Yeah,

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and this is this is the other

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 1>thing like this, The single best strategy that you can

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 1>possibly have in the Willard period is to defect m hm.

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Now this this leaves the world lords in a pretty

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:51.160
<v Speaker 1>bad position. And it's here with the national passification army

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:54.320
<v Speaker 1>just like completely unable to stop the Nationalist advance that

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>John makes the first of two mistakes that would cost

0:47:56.640 --> 0:48:01.080
<v Speaker 1>him everything. So John had been given two jobs by Drilling.

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 1>One of them was to defend Shanghai. The the other

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:07.360
<v Speaker 1>one was to confronts nationalist advance around Nanjing and to

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:09.440
<v Speaker 1>reforce reinforce the troops of one of the sort of

0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:13.399
<v Speaker 1>more unreliable worlords in the coalition. Now that Worlord's troops

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 1>have been doing okay against the nationalists. But Jong, like

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I think justifiably worried that this guy is going to

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:22.879
<v Speaker 1>defect for the fourth time in two years. He's like, okay,

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:24.840
<v Speaker 1>this this guy, this guy seems like the thing to do.

0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:32.239
<v Speaker 1>It seems like everyone defects, Like he's gone traded three times. Yeah. Yeah,

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:33.839
<v Speaker 1>So so Jong is as strong is worried this guy

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:36.239
<v Speaker 1>is gonna effect again. So so he sends most of

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 1>his army to reinforce like that guy. By by reinforced,

0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean he wants to put an army next to

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 1>him he doesn't affect. And but this this is a

0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 1>complete disaster um. The part of his army that John

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:51.239
<v Speaker 1>sends to defend Shanghai just gets completely destroyed. And the

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 1>other warlord subordinates hate Jong so much that like they

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 1>defect to the KMT rather than like be on the

0:48:57.080 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 1>same side as him. Yeah, it's pet It sounds like

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:06.319
<v Speaker 1>he piste off some people. Yeah, but it's funny because

0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:08.440
<v Speaker 1>it's not like like the other warlords. Like the other

0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 1>warlord isn't good either, but like man John John, John

0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 1>is a tier above all of the rest of the

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:19.439
<v Speaker 1>war lords when it comes to just war word ng mhm, yeah,

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Joan like he wins the Battle of Nunjan. But it doesn't.

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's the definition of a feric victory because

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of all of this sort of inconclusive fighting,

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the workers take Shanghai, now exactly where you don't want

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:38.360
<v Speaker 1>the workers if you're this guy. Nope. So so to

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:41.360
<v Speaker 1>understand what this means or of how this happened, we

0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:43.319
<v Speaker 1>need to go back a little bit. So. So after

0:49:43.360 --> 0:49:47.320
<v Speaker 1>the General's record ends, the General Labor Union and the

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 1>communists they started working on this plan to take the city,

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and they make their first attempt, which is called the

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 1>First Armed Uprising in late n This this doesn't work

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:00.520
<v Speaker 1>at all. It's it's a complete failure. And here you

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:04.240
<v Speaker 1>get to see just the unbelievable brutality of the warlord governments.

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:08.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to read this passage from the delightfully named

0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Hans J. Van der Ven this book called War and

0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:17.759
<v Speaker 1>Nationalism in China, which describes aftermath of the failed First

0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Armed Uprising. Okay, a judge went about the streets accompanied

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 1>by someone carrying a shield with the martial law text

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:29.360
<v Speaker 1>on it. Anyone suspected of revolutionary activity, even something like leafletting,

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 1>was executed on the spot by two broadswordered executioners, after

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:36.360
<v Speaker 1>which their heads were just played on bamboo pikes. Smith

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:39.360
<v Speaker 1>recalls a story that one street hawker shouting by my

0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Cakes was stabbed by a soldier who thought he was

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:46.800
<v Speaker 1>crying defeat the army. Several hundred people were killed. I

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:52.280
<v Speaker 1>don't speak Mandarin or um any other languages but English,

0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:55.879
<v Speaker 1>which I also barely speak. In the language this guy

0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:58.840
<v Speaker 1>was speaking, does buy my Cakes sound at all like

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:04.440
<v Speaker 1>a literally Okay, okay, it's kind of like it's kind

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:08.279
<v Speaker 1>it's not I don't know, like it's similar enough that

0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:10.920
<v Speaker 1>that like I can like I'm pretty sure this's happened,

0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:15.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not. Yeah, but but it's not similar enough that

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:19.959
<v Speaker 1>like anyone who's not just completely hyped up on murder

0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:23.920
<v Speaker 1>is going to mistake them. Well, I mean, look, if

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 1>you've never murdered anybody, it it's who. I don't know

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:31.440
<v Speaker 1>where I was going with their continue it's very scary.

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:36.360
<v Speaker 1>What So you know, the motto of this podcast is

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 1>a B M always be murderer. No, it's cut what

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Robert says, so I can keep Yeah. That that is

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:47.919
<v Speaker 1>the motto of the podcast. Thank you, Let's let's move

0:51:48.080 --> 0:51:51.759
<v Speaker 1>right along. Now, you know, in the face of all

0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:55.320
<v Speaker 1>this violence, it is a genuinely incredible testament to the

0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:58.400
<v Speaker 1>raw capacity that are for like the raw power of

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 1>our capacity for resistance. That this doesn't work. Like people,

0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:07.080
<v Speaker 1>people see their friends, their neighbors, their coworkers, their families

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:11.920
<v Speaker 1>decapitated in the street and impaled on pikes. And the

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:17.560
<v Speaker 1>next month they do it again. In February, there's a

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:21.800
<v Speaker 1>second armed uprising, three hundred thousand workers, undeterred by the

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:23.719
<v Speaker 1>possibility that they too could end up on a pike.

0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Stage what was to that point the largest striking Chang

0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:30.040
<v Speaker 1>High history. Now this too fails because the armed uprising,

0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:34.120
<v Speaker 1>the strikes weren't coordinated enough. But the third armed up

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 1>rising on March finally takes the city. See guys, third

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 1>times to charm with armed uprising? Were we We did

0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:46.359
<v Speaker 1>one and that's all I'm going to say on the matter.

0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 1>And well, and that one that what was barely armed,

0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:56.040
<v Speaker 1>that was barely armed, one side was very heavily armed. Yeah. Now,

0:52:56.400 --> 0:53:00.360
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred thousand workers just blow the previous, all previous

0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 1>records for the largest strike and sang history out of

0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the water. And that's a protest the size of the

0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:08.960
<v Speaker 1>city I live in. Yeah. And and the Woolard troops

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:12.839
<v Speaker 1>like somewhat understandably, just like flee rather than face them.

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:16.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that makes sense. Again, I've I've seen cops do that. Yeah,

0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:23.920
<v Speaker 1>that was pretty good. Yeah. Unfortunately, unbeknownst to the triumphant workers,

0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:25.760
<v Speaker 1>who were in the process of setting up an elected

0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:29.240
<v Speaker 1>citizens government to run the city, they had already been betrayed.

0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, yeah, that's yeah. As March turned to April,

0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:36.560
<v Speaker 1>open battles between the left and right wing of the

0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:41.200
<v Speaker 1>KMT were raging across China. Yeah. The right wing of

0:53:41.239 --> 0:53:43.919
<v Speaker 1>the Nationalists began to slaughter workers everywhere they found a union.

0:53:44.239 --> 0:53:46.800
<v Speaker 1>But even as their nominal comrades fell to the machine guns,

0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:50.680
<v Speaker 1>communists and left KMT leadership told the workers of Shanghai

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:53.880
<v Speaker 1>to let Changai Check's army into the city. The workers

0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 1>greeted the nationalists with jubilation. Chang, on the other hand,

0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:59.120
<v Speaker 1>immediately went to go meet with the head of the

0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Green Gang, the guy, the guy you'd freads a legiance

0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to several years earlier, and with weapons provided by the

0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:06.719
<v Speaker 1>French and intelligence provided by the British. The Green Gang

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and the nationalist troops began to slaughter the striking workers.

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Now the workers aren't pickets fought back, and two hundred

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:15.239
<v Speaker 1>thousand workers went back on strike, even in the midst

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:17.520
<v Speaker 1>of the confusion of the sort of nationalist communist split,

0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:20.759
<v Speaker 1>but disorganized by the surprise attack and with with right

0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:23.600
<v Speaker 1>wing nationalist troops already in the city, the workers were

0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:26.399
<v Speaker 1>defeated in Shanghai, check's white terror. At first white terror

0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 1>had begun, and I say first year. That's very important

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:31.120
<v Speaker 1>because uh chain is going to do a second white

0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:33.960
<v Speaker 1>terror in Taiwan in the late forties. But that that

0:54:34.120 --> 0:54:38.319
<v Speaker 1>that's another story for another time. By by the end,

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 1>like a nice guy, yeah, hope boy. But by the

0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:45.400
<v Speaker 1>end of the purgase, somewhere between three hundred thousand and

0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:47.360
<v Speaker 1>a million people lay dead in the dirt, at the

0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:49.400
<v Speaker 1>hands of men their leaders had told them the trust.

0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:53.560
<v Speaker 1>The source of this disaster was Moscow, which, by the

0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:55.680
<v Speaker 1>structure of the Leninist Party and through the discipline of

0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the Third International, maintained near total supremacy over the communist

0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:01.360
<v Speaker 1>political line. It had been Moscow that had forced the

0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Communists into the alliance with the Nationalists in the first place,

0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Moscow and their handpicked leaders that had told the Communists

0:55:07.000 --> 0:55:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to stay in the United Front as it collapsed around them,

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and now as a situation continued to worsen, the surviving

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Communists waited with bated breath for the master stroke from

0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Moscow I could save them from this disaster. What they

0:55:19.920 --> 0:55:24.640
<v Speaker 1>got was that one and trotzy bickering. Yeah, that also

0:55:24.719 --> 0:55:28.279
<v Speaker 1>completely scans. Yeah, the order from Moscow, I'm going to

0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:32.400
<v Speaker 1>reason the provisions of it because it it's completely incoherent.

0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:35.200
<v Speaker 1>So okay, So the order is, okay, you have to

0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:37.160
<v Speaker 1>get you have to ask the peasants to start doing

0:55:37.280 --> 0:55:40.959
<v Speaker 1>land seizures, but also you must prevent them from taking

0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:44.160
<v Speaker 1>any land from any soldier, which is like a lot

0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:47.879
<v Speaker 1>of the land is owned by soldiers. And then also

0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:50.720
<v Speaker 1>simultaneously they're they're supposed to raise an army of seventy

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:53.920
<v Speaker 1>communist troops, but also like that's like an independent communist army,

0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 1>but also stay in the Nationalist Party and the United Friends.

0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:59.960
<v Speaker 1>But then also while being in the Nationalist Party opposed

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Shankai check. At the same time, it's the assembled leaders

0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:08.080
<v Speaker 1>as Shanghai, as as Elizabeth Perry described in Shanghan strike

0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:12.239
<v Speaker 1>quote didn't know whether the laugh or cry. The head

0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:14.920
<v Speaker 1>of the CCP described the telegram as quote taking a

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:20.960
<v Speaker 1>bath and a toilet. Yeah, Moscow in the final critical

0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:23.640
<v Speaker 1>hour had delivered nothing but ruined in the years that followed,

0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 1>almost the entire urban workers who will be annihilated. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the folks. This is why. Yeah, don't don't have an

0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:41.240
<v Speaker 1>organization who that that can be entirely destroyed because Stalin

0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and Trotsky were bickering. Bad organizational structure. As a general rule,

0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:48.520
<v Speaker 1>one of the things we advise our listeners is don't

0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:54.759
<v Speaker 1>don't don't trust Stalina, don't don't rely on Stalin. Um.

0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of our listenership are in nineteen

0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:02.200
<v Speaker 1>nineteen Russia right now. Um, but it's not going to

0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:06.560
<v Speaker 1>end well. Guys, don't find out drink him, you know.

0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:10.640
<v Speaker 1>In fairness to our listeners in nineteen nineteen Russia, pretty much,

0:57:10.719 --> 0:57:12.840
<v Speaker 1>no matter what you do, it's going to end badly.

0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:18.160
<v Speaker 1>So just um, I don't know. We go to Ukraine.

0:57:18.440 --> 0:57:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Ukraine seems like it's it's just gonna be a solid, solid, upward,

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:27.120
<v Speaker 1>upward trajectory for for the next years. Famous, famously a

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:30.360
<v Speaker 1>country having a great time, has no problems ever, famously

0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:36.560
<v Speaker 1>stable Ukraine. Yeah, okay, so yeah, So so in the

0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:40.880
<v Speaker 1>chaos of this, you know, the next Chinese Civil war,

0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:42.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's called the Chinese Civil War. But like,

0:57:43.880 --> 0:57:46.680
<v Speaker 1>there's already so many civil wars. So the next Chinese

0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Civil war between the Nationalists the Communists should have been

0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 1>a godsend to the warlords. And in the immediate aftermath

0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:55.600
<v Speaker 1>is supression of Shanghai Uprising. Worldlord forces were temporarily able

0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 1>to halt the Nationalist advance, but then disaster struck. After

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:03.800
<v Speaker 1>one his allies suffered a devastating defeat, Chong was ordered

0:58:03.840 --> 0:58:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to invade Hanan Province, and and okay, I want to

0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:10.320
<v Speaker 1>make clear here that what's about to happen isn't entirely

0:58:10.480 --> 0:58:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Jong's fault. Dueling like refused to send him any reinforcements,

0:58:14.240 --> 0:58:16.880
<v Speaker 1>and so Jong is left to attack this whole province

0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:20.560
<v Speaker 1>like by himself with only one just like incredibly unreliable

0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:26.040
<v Speaker 1>minor warlord as his ally. Now his ally almost immediately

0:58:26.120 --> 0:58:28.600
<v Speaker 1>proceeds to make just like a series of incredibly reckless,

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:31.840
<v Speaker 1>over reckless attacks, and it's just destroyed by Nationals kind

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:36.920
<v Speaker 1>of attack, and in response, Jong makes the single largest

0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:41.680
<v Speaker 1>tactical blunder of his entire career. He he launches this massive,

0:58:41.720 --> 0:58:47.000
<v Speaker 1>full scale assaulid on Kaifeng, and it's just it's just

0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:50.400
<v Speaker 1>completely destroyed by the Nationalists. And the kind of attack

0:58:50.560 --> 0:58:54.280
<v Speaker 1>national kind of attack kills not just like his troops,

0:58:54.840 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 1>this attack kills most like a pretty good portion of

0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:01.280
<v Speaker 1>his senior commanders, which is extremely rare in battles in

0:59:01.320 --> 0:59:04.520
<v Speaker 1>this period. You almost never like lose your scene commandit.

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:07.439
<v Speaker 1>But he loses a bunch of them, and he also

0:59:07.560 --> 0:59:12.480
<v Speaker 1>loses four of his six beloved armored trains, several of them. Yeah,

0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:14.040
<v Speaker 1>it loses there with trains and a bunch of the

0:59:14.080 --> 0:59:17.160
<v Speaker 1>white Russians like get slaughtered when a bunch of Chinese, yeah,

0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>like piste off Chinese people like they met they finally

0:59:19.320 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 1>managed to cut off the rail lines and they just

0:59:22.040 --> 0:59:24.440
<v Speaker 1>like walk into the car and just like murder all

0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:28.200
<v Speaker 1>the white Russians. Yeah, fine with that more or less. Yeah,

0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:30.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, good, good, good on good and good on

0:59:30.520 --> 0:59:32.640
<v Speaker 1>the Nationalists. One of the few times I'll ever say this,

0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:36.120
<v Speaker 1>but good on them. Yeah, I'm fine with that. The trains, though,

0:59:36.720 --> 0:59:39.600
<v Speaker 1>do anything well okay, but what I say, a lot

0:59:39.680 --> 0:59:42.000
<v Speaker 1>of people, but there were trains, yeah, yeah, but okay,

0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:44.120
<v Speaker 1>but okay, but here's the thing. When I say lost,

0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean they were like they're all captured and because

0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:50.560
<v Speaker 1>because of armored trains, ye train, who's who they're killing

0:59:50.800 --> 0:59:52.800
<v Speaker 1>as long as they get to kill, Like some of

0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:56.600
<v Speaker 1>some of these trains are like on their seventh owner already,

0:59:56.920 --> 1:00:00.560
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they're gonna the trains will be in service

1:00:00.680 --> 1:00:02.600
<v Speaker 1>until the destroyed. But the Japanese neck and Tarty one,

1:00:02.680 --> 1:00:08.280
<v Speaker 1>yeah they were the Toyotas of their day. But unfortunately, yeah,

1:00:08.280 --> 1:00:12.960
<v Speaker 1>without his trains, Jong is Jong is in a bad spot. Um,

1:00:13.000 --> 1:00:16.240
<v Speaker 1>He's able to sort of cobbled together some of his army,

1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:18.360
<v Speaker 1>but like this is not the army that like the

1:00:18.400 --> 1:00:24.040
<v Speaker 1>baby squad had led. This is yeah, it's it's completely demoralized.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, without the trains very important. The speed

1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:30.840
<v Speaker 1>of the trains just what basically allows him to counter attack.

1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:32.640
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of Jong success have been from just

1:00:32.680 --> 1:00:35.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of like being able to outposition and sort of

1:00:35.760 --> 1:00:40.960
<v Speaker 1>out maneuverous opponents. But when he returns to Shendong, he

1:00:41.040 --> 1:00:43.080
<v Speaker 1>can't do this anymore because you know, the trains are gone,

1:00:43.240 --> 1:00:47.160
<v Speaker 1>and because he instead digs this like giant series of trenches,

1:00:47.360 --> 1:00:48.720
<v Speaker 1>is like this, this is like, you know, he has

1:00:48.760 --> 1:00:51.200
<v Speaker 1>a determination, just like he's gonna fight this out, and

1:00:51.240 --> 1:00:57.120
<v Speaker 1>the Nationalists just go around them. Yeah, they attack of

1:00:57.160 --> 1:01:00.720
<v Speaker 1>him behind his armies routed again. Um Jong attempts to

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<v Speaker 1>flee to Manchuria with the remains of his army to

1:01:03.160 --> 1:01:07.520
<v Speaker 1>continue the war, but Jong dueling his armies are likewise

1:01:07.560 --> 1:01:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and shambles after a series of defeats. But the Nationalists

1:01:09.840 --> 1:01:15.520
<v Speaker 1>gets assassinated by the Japanese in late sorry late and

1:01:15.920 --> 1:01:18.640
<v Speaker 1>this is a problem for Jong because control of materia

1:01:18.880 --> 1:01:24.080
<v Speaker 1>passes to Jo Ling's son, who very quickly looks at

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<v Speaker 1>the map and it is like the Nationalists have taken

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<v Speaker 1>literally all the countries that from Manchuria. They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>win this war. And so he starts preparing to flip sides,

1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and he so you know, but because he's preparing to

1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:37.800
<v Speaker 1>like flip sides, he refuses to let Jong into Manchuria.

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<v Speaker 1>And John like tries to fight his way, but he

1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:43.760
<v Speaker 1>can't do it. And so Jong as like he's basically

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<v Speaker 1>like the like one of the last moments, like Woodlord

1:01:45.760 --> 1:01:50.200
<v Speaker 1>standing makes this like heroic triumphant final stand with his

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Great Wall of China, and his army

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<v Speaker 1>is promptly completely destroyed by the Nationalists after his white

1:01:54.960 --> 1:01:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Russian mercenaries defect and he flees to he's able to

1:01:59.360 --> 1:02:01.840
<v Speaker 1>he turns right before he loses the battle. He turns

1:02:01.880 --> 1:02:04.680
<v Speaker 1>the city over the Japanese and then flees to another

1:02:04.760 --> 1:02:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Japanese control part of China. And so for for for

1:02:09.520 --> 1:02:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, for like a few months, Jongs like kind

1:02:11.600 --> 1:02:16.120
<v Speaker 1>of out of it. But in Jong apparently still very

1:02:16.200 --> 1:02:18.400
<v Speaker 1>much believing that this was all a temporary setback and

1:02:18.480 --> 1:02:20.240
<v Speaker 1>that he was in fact still going to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>They've all been temporary setbacks before, you know, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can't fall to him. It's like, you know, whatever, if whope,

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<v Speaker 1>fruit can come back, like yeah, maybe you can do

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<v Speaker 1>it too, so you know, and he a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>the fift so okay. So so when when the Nationalists

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<v Speaker 1>take Shandong, they they do like basically a version of

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<v Speaker 1>deep pathification, except they can they do the worst of

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<v Speaker 1>both worlds where they put like Jong subordinate in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of the province as the warlord. But then also they

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<v Speaker 1>fire all of his troops. So you have a warlord

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<v Speaker 1>still ruling Shendung who everyone hates. And then also all

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<v Speaker 1>of these troops are just like doing the bath party

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<v Speaker 1>thing where they've just been fired and have no jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>And so in Jong like returns to Shendong Province with

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<v Speaker 1>two of his former allies and some backing by the Japanese,

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<v Speaker 1>WITHO what sketchy to what has sent that. Exactly how

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<v Speaker 1>much back he got from the Japanese is unclear, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's usually gotten some backing, and he starts rebellion with

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<v Speaker 1>his former troops. Tens of thousands of his ex soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>flocked to his banner, but he's eventually defeated and forced

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<v Speaker 1>to flee, like so many before him. The japan now

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<v Speaker 1>Joon spends about four months living quietly in Japan until

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<v Speaker 1>a cousin of the last Chinese emperor who seems to

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<v Speaker 1>have pisted him off by sleeping with one of what

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<v Speaker 1>are now being called Jong's wives. John is consideredly mad

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<v Speaker 1>at this guy, and so one night he sits He's

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<v Speaker 1>sitting like next to the window of his hotel room

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<v Speaker 1>when the guy walks into the garden below him and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna read the description from Time because

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of the most incredible things that ever been printed.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from Time quote. At that moment, a bonut,

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<v Speaker 1>a pistol with Marshall Jong happened to be holding, happened

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<v Speaker 1>to go off, the bullet happened to strike the prince

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<v Speaker 1>in the back, happened to kill him. John claimed this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing was an unfortunate accident happened. This is like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's like the most it's the it's the

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<v Speaker 1>single greatest example of they can't say he shot this

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<v Speaker 1>guy that I've ever encountered in a media organization. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's amazing. Yeah, And you know the other incredible thing

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<v Speaker 1>about this is that, Okay, so she has just clearly

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<v Speaker 1>murdered a dude. She has told the police that he

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<v Speaker 1>was staying on a balcony and he fired a bullet

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<v Speaker 1>and happened to go off, And the Japanese police, after

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<v Speaker 1>again murdering a dude, are just like, yeah, whatever, just

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<v Speaker 1>paying a hund fifty dollar fine. That's amazing. He really

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<v Speaker 1>did just chaney that guy. And then like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like I don't know this, this this is

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<v Speaker 1>some just like incredibly weird, corrupt petty like petty police

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<v Speaker 1>stuff too, where it's like, yeah, you murdered this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but like how do you deal? Are fine? It's fine?

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<v Speaker 1>M hm oh no, that's that's fair because like what

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<v Speaker 1>the hundred and fifty dollars was, like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>worth a human life back then. I mean, okay, to

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<v Speaker 1>be to be fair, this guy is a cousin of Pooyee,

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<v Speaker 1>who's like one of the great world historical monsters, our

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<v Speaker 1>arch trader demand kinds like enemy of all humanity, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's related to him. So yeah, hundred it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, honestly, if if we developed a system of

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<v Speaker 1>murder penalties where it was based on how shitty the

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<v Speaker 1>person you shot was, um, why not? Yeah. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having having escaped this Jong, you know, he lives a

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<v Speaker 1>fairly uneventful life with his mom and his quote wives

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<v Speaker 1>for a few more years until the Japanese invaded Macharian

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<v Speaker 1>one to destroy your precious armored trains. Now, Jong Soul

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<v Speaker 1>yet another opportunity to make a comeback, and he travels

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<v Speaker 1>to China touting his ability to lead the anti Japanese resistance.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately for him, in a train station at his home province,

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<v Speaker 1>the nephew of a nationalist officer that John had executed

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<v Speaker 1>like some years before, jumped out and shot him. Jong's

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<v Speaker 1>final words were quote, no good, which you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's as good of a closing room work on

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<v Speaker 1>John as you can get. I mean, you can't argue

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<v Speaker 1>with the man that that's a fair thing. Been murdered. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>no good? You know what? Not on board with this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of my favorite thing. This is cancel culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what a rat dude? Um, No notes, great life,

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of notes, A couple of notes, A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of notes actually, But I like the trains, um And

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<v Speaker 1>I like that his dick was the size of eight

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<v Speaker 1>six paces. It's a lot of paceos for a dick. Well, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been a wonderful journey um into history that

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know, um, and it has taught me

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<v Speaker 1>against more about paceos than I knew. So I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very pleased with how today has gone. How are you feeling, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing pretty good. You know this this is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like you know, I wanted to say, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like this is like the bad part of Chinese history,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, no, every part of Chinese history is also

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<v Speaker 1>the bad part of Trainese history. So the thing about history.

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<v Speaker 1>Every now and then you get a guy who I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know invented sea monkeys in order to fund national

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<v Speaker 1>socialism and we have a laugh. But at there is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more, a lot more I don't know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>gangs of vibes being forced against their will to be

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<v Speaker 1>concubines and um people being force fed uh soy pucks

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<v Speaker 1>while they starve to death. More of that most of history. Good, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why why why this podcast exists and why

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<v Speaker 1>you've all just finished listening to two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>hours a real this podcast. Good koukie character. I liked

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<v Speaker 1>my joke, Thank you so well. Have any plug as

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<v Speaker 1>here it behind the bastards? Yeah, I am, I am

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<v Speaker 1>at it me c hr three on Twitter or the

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<v Speaker 1>isms be destroyed? Dude, Um, I have I have a

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<v Speaker 1>substatis are known? Yes to your family? Yes, from from

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<v Speaker 1>from from along an illustrious line of vice must be destroyed.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually pre dates Ice by quite a bit um baffling

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<v Speaker 1>story when you really get into it. Yeah nice, no

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<v Speaker 1>good yes? Also yes, no good? Thank you well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you thank you at home for listening. Um, that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it. For us here behind the bastards

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<v Speaker 1>for the week until next week. Grab an armored train

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<v Speaker 1>press getting a bunch of people, enforced them into your militia. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>get dozens of concubines and you know, eventually get shot

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<v Speaker 1>to death. No good. Well, okay, you could do other

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<v Speaker 1>things if you prefer. Okay, by now,