WEBVTT - #15 - Hit-Boy 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:12.280 Check check check yup, it's the blutleg Cap podcast officially 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.960 checked in. I believe it's episode number fifteen. Man, I 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.239 hope everyone's enjoying a crazy ass week. You know we 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:23.840 out here in Cali. Fires are everywhere country going to shit. 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:30.200 Oh Donald knew about the goddamn COVID way early. It's just, man, 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:35.320 shit is crazy. We got a really dope episode coming 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:44.120 next week with MC eight, the legendary La rapper, so 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.040 be on the lookout for that. Also, just want to 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:51.760 shout out to everybody who's been leaving reviews on Apple podcasts. 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:54.600 If you haven't done that, man, please go in there 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.360 leave a review. I prefer five stars, but you know, 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:00.960 any feedback is definitely wanted. And speaking of feedback, if 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:03.400 you've got any feedback on the podcast, just like hit 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:07.440 me up, Twitter, Instagram, whatever. I appreciate everyone who tags 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:11.000 and and shows love, but yeah, just get at me Twitter, 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.920 Instagram at bou leg keV. Do you have any feedback? 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:19.319 A lot of dope music out I just want to 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:23.000 give a lot of love and and and acknowledgment to 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.960 Big Shawn's album, one of the best albums of the year. 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.280 I think I already gave this album a lot of love, 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.720 but I want to do it again. Hit Boy is 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:37.759 on the podcast today now. He executive produced Big Seawan's album. 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:42.760 He also put out two albums this year, one with 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:48.880 Dom Kennedy in August, another album with him himself and 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:53.920 him the Chauncey Hollis Project. Those are both albums that 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:57.520 he's producing and rapping on. Then, he executive produced NASA's 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:03.600 King's Disease and executive produced Big Sean's Detroit two. And 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.800 coming next month, there'll be a Benny the Butcher and 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:11.080 hit Boy album called Burden of Proof. So I just 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:15.040 want to acknowledge the twenty twenty that today's guest is having. 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:20.800 Also shout out to Alchemists, just cause if we're shouting 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.520 out producers who have had amazing twenty twenties, I feel 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:25.200 like hit Boy and Alchemists are the two guys you 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.480 got to talk about. Alchemists put out a whole album 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:32.120 of Boldie James, whole album, McConway whole album with Freddie Gibbs. Jesus, 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.720 that motherfucker's working. Shout out to ALC, Shout out to 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:38.360 hit Boy, shout out to our sponsors. All Right, we 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:43.280 have got two amazing sponsors, possibly adding more soon, but 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.119 shout out to vapin. Make sure you go to vapincbd 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:50.640 dot com. That's v A P E N CBD dot com. 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:54.640 Get you some CBD oil. 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Shout out to Price and Octane. 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.520 Those are my brothers right there. I've known them for 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.160 about ten years and I met hit Boy through them. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:32.400 They were on HS eighty seven and I had a 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:36.440 bunch of dope days going over to hit Boy's house 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.800 in Tarzana. He had a house called the House of 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.240 hit and it was where him and everyone on his 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:47.479 label lived, and yeah, man, it was just real dope. 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.760 And Hit Boy's always been one of my favorite producers, 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.560 and I just feel like he hasn't got a lot 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:56.559 of his just do and I feel like that's starting 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.120 to change. I think that battle was against Boy. Wander 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.120 started to help that a little. But salute a hit 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.800 Boy he is on the podcast today. Again, thank you 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:08.720 to everybody for tuning in. I'm also curious anybody who's 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.279 listening to this tweet me or Instagram dm me and 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.160 let me know what other type of guests you'd like 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.560 to see on the podcast. We've been going heavy with 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:20.200 the rappers, producers, you know, all that, but I'm really 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:21.479 trying to switch it up. You know, we have my 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:23.919 boys Chappelle Lacy on the show, who's a comedian, so 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:27.600 we're gonna try to get some more comedians on. But yeah, 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.359 just like what kind of guests would you like to 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:34.680 see on the show. There's a potential Patreon that we're 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.880 working on where we're gonna do like an extra episode 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.880 every week that you can subscribe to our patreon to 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.719 listen to, and thinking about kind of leaning more in 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.120 the music industry aspect on that to where like we 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:52.239 talk to a lot of industry insiders, managers, just people 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.880 behind the scenes, record executives, A and rs all that 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.960 to just kind of just give people a lot of game. 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.120 So let me know what kind of content you want 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:03.960 us to do on the Bootleg Cab podcast. And I 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.880 think everybody who's been listening, we dropped the Dizzy Right 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:10.039 and Demrick episode that's out, and the week before that 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.120 we dropped the Gashy episode. If you did not listen 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.000 to that Gashy episode, it's one of my favorite interviews 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.040 I've ever done. So even if you're not a Gashy fan, 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.320 it's just a great como. Go check it out today 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:21.080 though it's about hit Boy. Shout out to hit Boy 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.800 man the legend himself. Let's get into this podcast. It's 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:27.000 out Bootleg Cab Podcast Episode number fifteen with hit Boy 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:31.840 Heard it out, Congratulations on it on everything, Thank you bro. 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.600 Just locked inn Man, you already know, man, I've just 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:37.360 been I've been seeing a lot of love, a lot 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.520 of people add me on ig add me on Twitter, 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.160 just like, Man, You're going crazy, and it's like, I 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.120 feel like I've been in this pocket. But I guess 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.080 it's just taken a minute for everything to catch up. Yeah, 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.480 it's interesting because obviously you and Sean have been working 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:56.440 on Detroit two for a long time, since twenty eighteen. Yeah, 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.880 I feel like you know this has been highly into 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:04.440 paid it House. How long ago did you and nas 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:09.680 decide to fully connect for King's disease. It's crazy because, 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.880 like you said, we was working on Sean album for 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.360 a minute. We was already in a groove with that. 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.040 So I was just you know, from talking to him 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.640 every day working on his records and listening to records 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:22.320 that wasn't mine, but that he was gonna put on 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.440 the album because I'm executive producing it. I just got 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.720 sold deep in a bag that by the time me 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.720 and nas linked was was it was only February this year. 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.360 That was six months ago. I mean, it's fucking September, 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.160 right before the pandemic, right before the pandemic. That's what's 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:40.480 crazy about King's disease. People think it's like, oh, they 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.520 took the COVID shit, But we could th all the 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.000 King's disease before this shit cracked up, before he was 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.400 all in the house, before all the corona all that. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:53.240 So yeah, we connected in February and just did a record, 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.720 and we just kept doing songs, and before we looked up, 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:57.480 we had an album. And it didn't even take long 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.640 to get the base of it, like maybe a couple 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:04.320 of weeks. Wow. I want to dive into everything that's 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.680 going on in the last year, but I kind of 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.400 want to also touch base on. You know a lot 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.160 of people who are watching this might not know your 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.160 come up, might not know where you're from. You from 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.920 You're from Fontana, right, I'm a two ten baby. I'm 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.160 from between Pasadena and Ie. So I stayed all over 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:24.080 the Ie. But I stayed in Pasadena until I was thirteen. Okay, 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.040 you know what I'm saying. So I just called myself 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:27.840 a two ten baby. I'm back and forth off to 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.680 two ten. Man. That's I take that. I take that 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:32.800 freeway every time I go back home to Phoenix, take 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:38.800 the two ten. But yeah, so you started getting into music. 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.679 Was it first as a producer? Was it first as 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.640 a rapper? Like? How was your introduction into the into 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:49.840 just just creating? Man? I was always into it. But 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.920 when I was like thirteen, I just like picked up 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:54.800 a pen and a pad and I was just like, man, 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:56.720 I don't know what I'm about to say, but I'm 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:58.680 about to just try to get something out. And I 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.160 just every day I was on it, just writing. I 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.240 used to fill up notebooks just like you know, wrapping 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.440 all type of whatever, just anything I could think of. 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.160 And then I finally got to the point where I 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.120 can record. So that's when I met this kid in 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:17.400 rialto this nigga was making beats, recording itself acid pro 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.760 fl bro. So we was making albums and he was 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.040 doing all the beats. And then after a while I 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:25.839 just started messing with it playing. I was just playing 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:27.680 around like and I was just like this shit is 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:29.960 pretty fun. So I just kept going in and after 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.640 a while, like I was heavy on you know, video 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:36.439 games and shit, so I replaced you know, video games 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.480 with beats, and I just kept making beats every day. 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.880 I was playing basketball. I played my whole ninth grade year, 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.679 and I was was practicing for you know, my this 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.160 the next season, and Bro, over a weekend, I like 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.000 got a computer set up the fl and I went 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.199 to school the next week and I was like, yo, 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:56.760 I'm not I'm not coming back to practice, Bro, I'm 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.280 about to be on these beats. And this is two 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.560 thousand and three. So they looking at me like, get 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:02.600 the fuck yeah, beats. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.600 that's a one early you get a one, it's a 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.520 one in a million chance. Well that's like early free loops. 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.319 That that's around the time Ninet had probably made like 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.720 like Little Brothers started a pop man, that shit was 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.640 like FL three point five, Like it was just I 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.199 can't even remember the functionalities, but I don't think you 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.120 could do a whole lot back then, So you pretty 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:25.760 much replaced all of your extracurricular shit video games, sports, sports. 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.720 I'm going all in on beats, on just music. I 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.160 was making albums, I was recording, I was writing, I 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.840 was making beats just But I'm glad I stuck to 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.440 like the sonics of it early in my career, just 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:38.520 like because I feel like you get a longer life 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.640 when you locked in on the sonics of it, Like 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:42.840 being a rapper, you get a certain shelf life, so 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.040 you know what I'm saying, everybody don't last forever with that. 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.040 But making beats, you could catch runs on runs like 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.600 I'm on my fucking damn their third run. I'm thirty 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:54.520 three years old, So it's like, you know, locking in 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:56.719 on the sonics also allowed me to be able to 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.360 fucking make still make my music and make the shit 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.200 harder than this ever been. Like I feel like every 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.200 song I do is just getting better and better. So 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.000 and I'm seeing people that I respect reach out like, yo, 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.360 you you're really going on this ship, Like it's not 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:11.000 just the beat, so it's just music at the end 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.480 of the day. It's crazy because like you said, you've 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.560 had some runs, right, Like I think we all know 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:22.080 your first kind of run or introduction to everybody, kind 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:26.160 of knowing that who hit Boy is was Watched the Throne, 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:30.599 that era of working with Ya and in Paris is 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:34.960 one of the most iconic songs. Yeah, ever like that 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:38.760 that way had to be like it, you know from 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.000 there you you you, You was on you know, working 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:46.120 with re Read and and there was rock just a 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:51.360 crazy run. I felt like at that time I was 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.960 real close with my dude Lifted, who did Mercy, who 0:11:54.040 --> 0:12:01.040 was working with Kanye what? Yeah? But what because why 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:05.240 didn't we get more music with you and yay Man? Bro? Look, 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.080 this is the thing and that's that's why it's another 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.640 like it's another part that's you know, my story that's 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.720 disconnected because you got to think about it. Bro. I 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.920 was signed to Good Music for two years right as 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:20.800 a producer as a producer, and I mean I produced 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.480 you Know Wish You Would with him and Rose. I 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:29.800 produced Stair, flu I produced Click, I produced Christmas and Harlem. 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:33.120 I produced Niggas in Paris. Is that my Mortal Kombat on. 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.520 Let's turn that thing on, keep going. But so so 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:39.520 in Paris click, I mean, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.400 And it's just like that's just a two year span 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.960 and let alone like, you know, producing stuff like my 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.800 God for pushing, producing multiple songs on John Legend's album, 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.520 producing songs on Big Sean's Detroit One. I had a 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.880 I had a beat on there. So just like I 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:54.600 was doing it, I did a lot of show you 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:56.280 did do a lot. I just think that like, once 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.240 that two year span was up, it was it was 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.160 almost like that was like it with y'all working together. 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.880 I mean, you know, we both creatives, you know what 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.680 I'm saying. We both just like it was always something 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.880 but there's nothing but respect on my side, you know 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.920 as far as the creative goes. Like when you were 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:16.800 signed with Good, was it like do they get first 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:20.079 right refusal on your beats? Man? I mean they would 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.560 just take the hardest shit. So it was basically like 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.480 that anyway, right, I mean you know it's funny. Bro. 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.400 At a point I was like telling my manager like 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.679 if it's not Yay Jay or Beyonce, like don't book 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.079 no sessions like this was at for I don't know, 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.520 I can't think about how long I was on this way, 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.360 but I was on that way for a while, just 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.960 like you know, that's something that's crazy to be able 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.560 to even say. But you know, I guess this is 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.760 why people want to call it a reseurg is now, 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:47.920 Like it's just me spreading my sound out more and 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.400 just locking in with more people and just dial in, 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:54.520 dialing in on just that level. I guess now the 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.400 other waves that I was a really good, big fan 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.280 of and really close to shout out to through my 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:05.800 dog's audio push when you launched HS eighty seven and 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:10.439 really just went hard putting on your your area. Nah, 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.280 that was another thing man, Like you gotta understand, uh 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.520 fucking I caught niggas in Paris and I wasn't trying 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.160 to make a niggas in Paris. That was just the 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.080 type of music me and the homies did. Like one 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.440 of my one of my niggas, Chilly Chill, he had 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.480 a he had a song on the Niggas in Paris, 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.240 but we was about to drop that on his mixtape 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:29.280 right before right before done, hit me like yo, send 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.280 me the files, like that was just a beat that 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.240 I was like, whatever on, you know what I'm saying. 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:39.360 So it's like, like, you know, balancing that, balancing producing 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.240 for high level artists, trying to do my own shit, 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.600 trying to like, you know, produce for Audio Push, Kate 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.000 Roosevelt all the homies like that was just a lot 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.080 for a fucking twenty five year old to deal with 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.200 and not having like the proper infrastructure. So it just 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.240 was me pushing myself every day and after a while, 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.440 you just get burnt out. So you know, I just 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.640 had to really scale back and just get let me be, like, 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.960 let me go back to being hit boy, like, no expectations, 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.520 no industry as shit, Like I'm about to just make 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.160 heat and I'm feel a lock in. Is there anything 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:12.600 you regret about that HS eighty seven era? You guys 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.640 made some amazing music. I think a lot of it 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.000 was really slept on. I think you know, come as 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:18.800 you are about Audio Pushing one of my favorite tapes, 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.360 and I just felt like you guys kind of despite 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.800 even being affiliated with Interscope at the time, I felt 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.880 like they never really gave y'all like did just do 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:30.960 for the level of music y'all were making Was there anything? 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:33.960 It's just like I said, Man, I had so much 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.280 going on, trying to you know, remain hot as a producer, 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.920 you know, getting my artists ht all that shit. But 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.320 it ain't nothing I regret at all. Hell No, like 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:44.640 you know what I'm saying, being able to put on 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.360 for the homies, get him opportunity regardless of you know 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.360 what I'm saying, how everything panned out. Everybody's still doing 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.160 their thing, like you know what I'm saying. So it's 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.440 like we all got to learn. I got to learn 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.479 on a high level, you know what I'm saying. I 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.000 caught that record Jimmy Iveen just gave me a crazy 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:03.000 bag and then the house hit. But then that was it, 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:04.560 you know what I'm saying. It wasn't like this is 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.440 how you do it. Woo woo, here's your frunning bag. 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.960 Now you figure it out exactly. So you know that's 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.120 that's that's cool. But you know that's what that was 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.960 like going to like college, like for me, you guys 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:19.560 had a house and Sino Tar that was cracking. It 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:23.200 was crazy. Everybody was in rooms working like five studios. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.400 Everybody was pulling up working. But you know, it also 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.080 got to be too much, you know what I'm saying. 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.440 And yeah, the parties were kind of cool for shore. 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:36.040 The parties already cracking for show. But just yeah, bro, 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.680 like that's what led me to this point I'm at now. 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.440 You know, just I did that for years, like having 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.640 these home studios and just locking in, having people in 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.640 and out, and I feel like me going crazy now 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.040 was me like, I'm about to go work by myself. 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.200 I'm about to like just really go back to just 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.800 hit boy. And you know, I got I found a 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.680 perfect room to lock in on within the first year. 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.480 I want to gram me out that motherfucker with it. 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.840 Rest of peace in the middle. So you know, it's just, 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.199 oh no, I just went back to being me like 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.200 full blown. We also skipped over surf Club that era, 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.040 right exactly. Surf club Man, say surf club man, Surf 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.080 Club HS eighty seven, nigga, all that that's that's that's 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.439 that's long as I'm alive. That shit is alive, is repping. 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:19.879 I'm repping like that shit ain't never going nowhere. Like 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.520 it's just you know, it's time and for everything one 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:26.360 hundred percent, man, all right, So let's let's fast forward now. 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:31.800 You know, obviously you're having an incredible twenty twenty. I 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:35.040 think that I've seen a lot of people each ship 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.679 during this quarantine and a lot of people thrive, and 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:41.600 I feel like you are thriving, my brother, Like, yeah, man, 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.040 I'm blessed for Shure man, and this is all ship 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:45.760 that's been in the works. Like you said, it's not 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:47.800 like you know, like you made a conscious effort to like, 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:49.919 nah that that go for Like you know what I 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.879 said earlier in the conversation, imagine if I was just 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.160 just a rapper, like I couldn't do no shows right now, 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.800 Like I'll be on a different fucking lot of depending 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.960 on those back end club bags for show. So me 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.919 being a producer ship niggas is still getting beats through 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.320 email and they still pulling up doing safe sessions and ship, 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:09.919 you know what I'm saying, as as safe as we 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.680 can be and just you know, fucking being a producer 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.400 ship right now for Shure. Let me ask you this, 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.760 with King's disease, are you were you conscious of the 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:25.320 fact that people have critique NAS for having a baddier 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:29.520 for beats, not for show, But I mean ship that's 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:33.080 just people always formed narratives that that is listen, my 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:37.240 favorite rapper, so that my number one. That's just people talking, 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:39.199 just saying what they're gonna say. But at the end 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:42.600 of the days wrapped on some hard as still mad 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:44.520 and I mean no, but I do think that I 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:46.399 do think that there was like an error in NAS's 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.880 career where he was like definitely like maybe giving Chris 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:53.200 Weber a couple of beats on his album that's funny. No, 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.199 I mean you know that that's where he was at 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:56.640 in life. But at the end of the day, man, 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.400 like I just knew it was a job of service 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:01.840 like that I had to really, you know, I was 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:03.800 putting on for a lot of people, and I know 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.440 a lot of people wanted to hear him sound good. 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.399 So dog for real, Like I feel like it's almost 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.119 like you had a duty as like a participating in 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:15.200 hip hop culture to be like, yo, now we're gonna 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.840 make sure this shit is solid. I was on it 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.240 every day, man, like we you know what I'm saying, 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.440 chopping it on the phone every morning, like he giving 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.360 his thoughts on giving my thoughts, Like I'm updating songs 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.920 by the day, adding production, taking away shit, just trying 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:30.360 to make it sound, you know what I'm saying, as 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.200 enjoyable as possible and for it to end up being, 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:36.600 you know, received on this level. And I woke up 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.919 to a fucking FaceTime from Timbling the morning the album dropped, 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.960 and just the stuff he was saying. I'm like, Yo, damn, 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.040 this is really like it's touching people on that level. 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.000 You know what I'm saying. You always hope that it will, 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.439 but your people on that level to reach out and 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.560 just be like, Yo, this shit is this shit is 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:57.640 super hard, bro like man like, that's that's the win. Obviously, 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.320 you and I was working together at what point in 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.320 time and whose decision was it to be like, Yo, 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:05.000 let's let's do this whole ship together, like let's do 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:08.119 a whole It was pretty fast, bro like once we 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:10.560 because he could have been like I just tried that. Yeah, 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:15.240 yeah for sure with energy. The energy was just right, bro, Like, 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:18.760 we was making you hear the album like them joints, 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.240 A lot of them joints like the Skeletons at least, 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.080 was being made within the first few sessions Blue Bends, 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:28.399 you know what I'm saying. Fucking Cardi five saying before 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:31.399 Charlie was even on it. It's just like, you know, 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:33.919 we all we was tapping in and we felt like, Yo, 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:35.960 this is this shiit feels different and he just kept 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.560 saying like, Yo, I'm just keep pulling up, and he 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:43.520 kept pulling up. Ship. It's crazy because nas has always 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:47.080 people have always wanted to hear him do full projects 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:50.840 with producers. Specifically Premo Primo is like the one that 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.080